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WH: Trump believes millions voted illegally
President Trump stands by his belief that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 presidential election, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Tuesday.
The spokesman doubled down on the false claim after the president raised it Monday night during a reception with congressional leaders.
"The president does believe that. He has stated that before," Spicer told reporters at the daily press briefing on Tuesday afternoon.
The spokesman stopped short of saying the claims are true.
"He continues to maintain that belief based on studies and evidence that people have presented to him."
Spicer would not cite which studies swayed Trump, but state officials and independent fact-checkers have dismissed the claim.
Despite the explosive nature of Trump's continued references to voter fraud, Spicer said the president has no interest in pursuing a formal investigation.
"No, I think he won very handily with 306 electoral votes. 32 states," the spokesman said. "I think he is very comfortable with his win. ... It's a belief he maintains."
While Trump maintains his view on rampant voter fraud, other Republicans have debunked his claims.
Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) told reporters at the Capitol on Tuesday that he's seen "no evidence" of voter fraud.
And Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who was critical of Trump during the campaign, urged the president to stop making the claims.
"... I am begging the president, share with us the information you have about this or please stop saying it," Graham said.
http://www.thehill.com/homenews/administration/315895-wh-trump-believes-millions-voted-illegally
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Wow, Straw Man is now what Soul Crusher was 8 years ago. ;D
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Liberals are so pathetic.
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Wow, Straw Man is now what Soul Crusher was 8 years ago. ;D
How so?
I just posted an article where the spokesperson for the POTUS says that the POTUS believes there was widespread voter fraud based on the "evidence" that the POTUS claims to have seen'
This is an OFFICIAL STATEMENT by the press secretary of the POTUS
how does this compare to a typical 333 post from 8 years ago which would have typically included 333's fantasies about gay bath houses, smoking crack, being a secret muslim, etc...
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Liberals are so pathetic.
So you agree that the POTUS (#1 public servant of the country) should suppress evidence of voter fraud that he claims to have in his possession?
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How so?
I just posted an article where the spokesperson for the POTUS says that the POTUS believes there was widespread voter fraud based on the "evidence" that the POTUS claims to have seen'
This is an OFFICIAL STATEMENT by the press secretary of the POTUS
how does this compare to a typical 333 post from 8 years ago which would have typically included 333's fantasies about gay bath houses, smoking crack, being a secret muslim, etc...
I ain't judging. You can be Soul Crusher for the next 8 years if you want to. It's your right. :)
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So you agree that the POTUS (#1 public servant of the country) should suppress evidence of voter fraud that he claims to have in his possession?
Suppressing evidence? lol. Give me a fucking break.
You guys want to talk about anything you can think of other than this fact. Donald Trump is the President of the United States. Tough shit for you.
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Suppressing evidence? lol. Give me a fucking break.
You guys want to talk about anything you can think of other than this fact. Donald Trump is the President of the United States. Tough shit for you.
So you can't read or just don't understand what you've read?
The spokesperson for the POTUS said today that the POTUS has seen evidence that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 presidential election
Yes or No?
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So you can't read or just don't understand what you've read?
The spokesperson for the POTUS said today that the POTUS has seen evidence that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 presidential election
Yes or No?
Because that's what he should spend his hist days in office doing. Providing evidence to the press about voter fraud.
Just like Obama was in a hurry to worry about people who thought he was born in Kenya.
People asked Obama for a lot of things, and he said fuck you. Trump no different. Lets focus on real issues.
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Because that's what he should spend his hist days in office doing. Providing evidence to the press about voter fraud.
Just like Obama was in a hurry to worry about people who thought he was born in Kenya.
People asked Obama for a lot of things, and he said fuck you. Trump no different. Lets focus on real issues.
Yes, not the made up voter fraud issue.
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Because that's what he should spend his hist days in office doing. Providing evidence to the press about voter fraud.
Just like Obama was in a hurry to worry about people who thought he was born in Kenya.
People asked Obama for a lot of things, and he said fuck you. Trump no different. Lets focus on real issues.
Yes, if he has evidence that millions voted illegally then he has an duty as POTUS to share this with the public
How much time would it take to give the evidence to his spokesperson to share with the press.....maybe about 5 seconds ?
Much less time than it takes to type a tweet complaining about a TV show
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Because that's what he should spend his hist days in office doing. Providing evidence to the press about voter fraud.
Just like Obama was in a hurry to worry about people who thought he was born in Kenya.
People asked Obama for a lot of things, and he said fuck you. Trump no different. Lets focus on real issues.
LOL- is there something wrong with your brain ?
how is other people making fraudulent claims ABOUT THE POTUS = to THE POTUS HIMSELF making claims that he has seen evidence of widespread CRIME but refusing to share the evidence.
Shouldn't Trump give the evidence to his Justice Department
btw - Obama did respond to those false claims - MANY TIMES....remember?
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LOL- is there something wrong with your brain ?
how is other people making fraudulent claims ABOUT THE POTUS = to THE POTUS HIMSELF making claims that he has seen evidence of widespread CRIME but refusing to share the evidence.
Shouldn't Trump give the evidence to his Justice Department
btw - Obama did respond to those false claims - MANY TIMES....remember?
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so you have no answer
you must be one of those poorly educated people that Trump loves so much
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I see your sarcasm, but I am a bit worried that he has had his Press Secretary come out and say this type of thing. It's very childish.
He won, period... The problem with this statement is that his ego can't handle the fact that in the US, more people voted for Hillary than him.
The fact he has had to release statements about this is undesirable yes?
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The best part is there is not a Democrat out there who has a prayer of stepping on the debate stage with him in 4 years and taking him down.
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I see your sarcasm, but I am a bit worried that he has had his Press Secretary come out and say this type of thing. It's very childish.
He won, period... The problem with this statement is that his ego can't handle the fact that in the US, more people voted for Hillary than him.
The fact he has had to release statements about this is undesirable yes?
Not sure if you're referring to me or not but I'm not being sarcastic
The spokeperson for the President of the United States has said that the POTUS claims to have evidence of widespread voter fraud
If this is true then it's his duty to if not share with with the public then at the very least provide this evidence to the Justice Department
Remember, Trump has promised to the "law and order" President
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It's weird that Repubs on this board were losing their minds over voter fraud for the last 8 years but now that their POTUS has claimed he has proof that have no interest in seeing it
Again, it's your POTUS who is making these claims
What if these same fraudulent voters tip the scales in favor of the Dem next time?
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Just kick back and watch the salty tears flow my brotha! :D
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What difference does this make now? If Trump lost the election, he'd have something to cry about. He won. It is time for him to move on.
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So Repubs on this board don't care about voter fraud anymore
That's good to know
Now whenever anyone tries to bring it up I can just point out that you don't care anymore
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My imitation of GraspingatStraws -> :'(
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LOL - not a single Trump supporter on this board can explain why they don't care about voter fraud anymore
It's not because they know that Trump is lying or is even worse, DELUSIONAL and they just want to avoid that obvious fact
Hmmm, I'm sure it couldn't be something like that
Very hard to understand the Republican mind
Are there any other crimes against this country that the POTUS should ignore if he claims to have evidence?
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Straw Man,
How will you feel when Trump builds a gold, giant statue of himself in Washington DC? ;D
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Straw Man,
How will you feel when Trump builds a gold, giant statue of himself in Washington DC? ;D
Hahahaha
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Straw Man,
How will you feel when Trump builds a gold, giant statue of himself in Washington DC? ;D
I will laugh my ass off because it will be a statue of you sucking his cock
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I will laugh my ass off because it will be a statue of you sucking his cock
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I never accused you of leaking Obama's balls. Wow, you are definitely going Soul Crusher all the way. ;D
It seems you're under the impression that I'm a Republican and/or a Trump supporter. I am simply overjoyed that Hillary lost, as are many Democrats who supported Bernie Sanders.
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I will laugh my ass off because it will be a statue of you sucking his cock
I see you are acting the same way i did in response to Ofagget election to Trump beating that kunt hillfag
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I never accused you of leaking Obama's balls. Wow, you are definitely going Soul Crusher all the way. ;D
It seems you're under the impression that I'm a Republican and/or a Trump supporter. I am simply overjoyed that Hillary lost, as are many Democrats who supported Bernie Sanders.
Don't go getting all butthurt now
I asked a serious question in this thread and you chose to respond like a troll so I'm treating you like one
Would you like to try again?
The spokesperson for the President of the United States said today that the POTUS believes he has evidence of massive voter fraud
Don't you think he should share that information with the country
Doesn't he in fact have a duty to share that information not only with the country but also with the Justice Department?
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Don't go getting all butthurt now
I asked a serious question in this thread and you chose to respond like a troll so I'm treating you like one
Would you like to try again?
The spokesperson for the President of the United States said today that the POTUS believes he has evidence of massive voter fraud
Don't you think he should share that information with the country
Doesn't he in fact have a duty to share that information not only with the country but also with the Justice Department?
LOL...nice try! Clearly, the only one butt hurt here is you. Hillary lost, and you have sunk to a new low. :-*
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LOL...nice try! Clearly, the only one butt hurt here is you. Hillary lost, and you have sunk to a new low. :-*
WTF are you talking about?
I started this thread with a link to a sensational (and hugely controversial) statement made TODAY by the spokesperson for the President of the United states in which he acknowledged the POTUS believes he has seen evidence of massive voter fraud.
I'm curious why don't you just say "yes, if the POTUS has this info then he should release it to the public and the department of justice"
how hard is that and it would be totally consistent with what Repubs have said on this board many times in the past.
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WTF are you talking about?
I started this thread with a link to a sensational (and hugely controversial) statement made TODAY by the spokesperson for the President of the United states in which he acknowledged the POTUS believes he has seen evidence of massive voter fraud.
I'm curious why don't you just say "yes, if the POTUS has this info then he should release it to the public and the department of justice"
how hard is that and it would be totally consistent with what Repubs have said on this board many times in the past.
I'm not a Repub. :-\
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I'm not a Repub. :-\
thus you have no opinion on the question as to whether the POTUS should release the evidence he claims to have seen about a massive crime as stated today by his press secretary?
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The only "real news" is now whatever comrade Trump tells us is real news
His spokesperson just told us today that Trump believes millions of people voted illegally
By the standard of our new POTUS that is real news
Other interesting news - the Speaker of the House thinks the POTUS is either delusional or a liar
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The only "real news" is now whatever comrade Trump tells us is real news
His spokesperson just told us today that Trump believes millions of people voted illegally
By the standard of our new POTUS that is real news
Other interesting news - the Speaker of the House thinks the POTUS is either delusional or a liar
It's naive to believe that there are millions of illegals living here in American and none of them are voting.
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It's naive to believe that there are millions of illegals living here in American and none of them are voting.
not only that but our POTUS has seen proof that millions actually did vote in this last election
he has proof of a massive crime
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It's naive to believe that there are millions of illegals living here in American and none of them are voting.
Why? I ask seriously.
You use the term "none".
I think there was an article that stated it was .000009 percent or some shit like that. I mean, it may not be ZERO, but it's not some rampant thing changing the outcomes of elections.
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Why? I ask seriously.
You use the term "none".
I think there was an article that stated it was .000009 percent or some shit like that. I mean, it may not be ZERO, but it's not some rampant thing changing the outcomes of elections.
It seems pretty pointless to ask anyone on this board to respond seriously
I think it's pretty damn serious that the POTUS claims to have knowledge of massive voter fraud
Either he actually has this proof but won't provide it or he's delusional
Either one of those options is quite serious
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So you agree that the POTUS (#1 public servant of the country) should suppress evidence of voter fraud that he claims to have in his possession?
I'd prefer we just go ahead with the results "as is".
If Trump knows the election was fixed, maybe he should keep it quiet and carry on.
I don't think Trump won a fixed election , but I'm just Joe Blow.
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I'd prefer we just go ahead with the results "as is".
If Trump knows the election was fixed, maybe he should keep it quiet and carry on.
I don't think Trump won a fixed election , but I'm just Joe Blow.
no one is suggesting otherwise
Trump thinks these illegal votes were all for Hillary and that he actually won the popular vote
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-24/trump-again-claims-undocumented-immigrants-cost-him-popular-vote
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Liberals are so pathetic.
Not to mention as dumb as a box of rocks
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Straw is in full blown meltdown on Trump
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Not to mention as dumb as a box of rocks
says the make believe coach who can't crack the mystery of how to post a youtube video
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Bitches about fake news then posts it
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Straw is in full blown meltdown on Trump
yes, posting a statement by the POTUS and his spokeperson is a "meltdown"
it's the same as doing 25 threads daily where you fantasize about Obama's cock
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says the make believe coach who can't crack the mystery of how to post a youtube video
Lay odds you've never seen these videos...right?
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Bitches about fake news then posts it
so you're saying a statement by the presidents spokeperson is "fake news"?
WH: Trump believes millions voted illegally
President Trump stands by his belief that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 presidential election, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Tuesday.
The spokesman doubled down on the false claim after the president raised it Monday night during a reception with congressional leaders.
"The president does believe that. He has stated that before," Spicer told reporters at the daily press briefing on Tuesday afternoon.
The spokesman stopped short of saying the claims are true.
"He continues to maintain that belief based on studies and evidence that people have presented to him."
Spicer would not cite which studies swayed Trump, but state officials and independent fact-checkers have dismissed the claim.
Despite the explosive nature of Trump's continued references to voter fraud, Spicer said the president has no interest in pursuing a formal investigation.
"No, I think he won very handily with 306 electoral votes. 32 states," the spokesman said. "I think he is very comfortable with his win. ... It's a belief he maintains."
While Trump maintains his view on rampant voter fraud, other Republicans have debunked his claims.
Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) told reporters at the Capitol on Tuesday that he's seen "no evidence" of voter fraud.
And Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who was critical of Trump during the campaign, urged the president to stop making the claims.
"... I am begging the president, share with us the information you have about this or please stop saying it," Graham said.
http://www.thehill.com/homenews/administration/315895-wh-trump-believes-millions-voted-illegally
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Lay odds you've never seen these videos...right?
Do you think that Trump should release the information he claims has on the millions on people who voted illegally
I have to assume this is something you believe and care about so surely you of all people would like Trump to provide that proof that he claims he has.
Yes or No?
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Bitches about fake news then posts it
No, this is not fake news. Honestly, I heard the white house press secretary say it... I thought I was losing my mind when I heard it.
It's pretty stupid for it to be a thing. Trump won, period... According to the rules of the US Constitution, he won... He shouldn't stoop down to the level of worrying about the number of votes.
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Well, there are ways to fix it...
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Terrorism related wars, 6 trillion dollars. Obama's national debt accumulation, 10 trillion dollars. Doing what you say you're going to do. Priceless.
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No, this is not fake news. Honestly, I heard the white house press secretary say it... I thought I was losing my mind when I heard it.
It's pretty stupid for it to be a thing. Trump won, period... According to the rules of the US Constitution, he won... He shouldn't stoop down to the level of worrying about the number of votes.
Seems very odd to me that no one here who actually believes there is massive voter fraud can't simply say that Trump should reveal the proof that he claims to have.
It's not exactly going out on a limb to say he should reveal the proof.
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No, this is not fake news. Honestly, I heard the white house press secretary say it... I thought I was losing my mind when I heard it.
It's pretty stupid for it to be a thing. Trump won, period... According to the rules of the US Constitution, he won... He shouldn't stoop down to the level of worrying about the number of votes.
You guys seem to think that this bothers him profusely. All it does is rattles the opposing side it seems. Trump just continues on his way doing what he said he was going to do as shown by Yamcha's threads. Doesn't seem to be affecting him much at all but sure gets the "news" all up in arms.
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You guys seem to think that this bothers him profusely. All it does is rattles the opposing side it seems. Trump just continues on his way doing what he said he was going to do as shown by Yamcha's threads. Doesn't seem to be affecting him much at all but sure gets the "news" all up in arms.
The only one rattled is Trump
Even the leaders of his own party are calling him on his bullshit
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Maybe he saw Greg Phillips' evidence? ??? I don't know, but I think if he has evidence, that he should put it out there as long as it's not tied in with any "top secret" documents which is highly unlikely.
But to the folks who tell him to quit bitching, I believe he's pissed that there are people challenging his validity. He won, and until the other side admits he's their president and moves on, he's probably going to keep uttering shit like this.
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Seems very odd to me that no one here who actually believes there is massive voter fraud can't simply say that Trump should reveal the proof that he claims to have.
It's not exactly going out on a limb to say he should reveal the proof.
I think that all here know that you are a lost cause no matter what is pointed out to you so to most there is really no point in replying to you in a serious way. I realize I just did but only to let you know what's up.
There are some worth replying to in a constructive/helpful/exchange of thoughts manner but you are not one of them.
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The only one rattled is Trump
Even the leaders of his own party are calling him on his bullshit
:'(
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Do you think that Trump should release the information he claims has on the millions on people who voted illegally
I have to assume this is something you believe and care about so surely you of all people would like Trump to provide that proof that he claims he has.
Yes or No?
Never seen the videos...got it
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I think that all here know that you are a lost cause no matter what is pointed out to you so to most there is really no point in replying to you in a serious way. I realize I just did but only to let you know what's up.
There are some worth replying to in a constructive/helpful manner but you are not one of them.
No one here has the balls to simply say that Trump should reveal the proof of the crime that he claims to have.
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Never seen the videos...got it
You're afraid to answer a simple question, really a softball of a question, as either yes or no.
Got it
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Maybe he saw Greg Phillips' evidence? ??? I don't know, but I think if he has evidence, that he should put it out there as long as it's not tied in with any "top secret" documents which is highly unlikely.
But to the folks who tell him to quit bitching, I believe he's pissed that there are people challenging his validity. He won, and until the other side admits he's their president and moves on, he's probably going to keep uttering shit like this.
Fuck that... He's the President of the United States of America.
He has the Nuclear button. He has everything anyone could possibly want... He is the commander and chief of the armed forces, he has the ability to make policies and do whatever he feels he should do.
He won!
He should not give a shit about the assholes who say "Not my president." Just like Obama didn't care when people said it about him.
Stop being a whiner. You are the most powerful man on EARTH.
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Fuck that... He's the President of the United States of America.
He has the Nuclear button. He has everything anyone could possibly want... He is the commander and chief of the armed forces, he has the ability to make policies and do whatever he feels he should do.
He won!
He should not give a shit about the assholes who say "Not my president." Just like Obama didn't care when people said it about him.
Stop being a whiner. You are the most powerful man on EARTH.
Also, massive voter fraud is a threat to our Democracy.
Anyone who has proof and won't give it to the Department of Justice is complicit in the cover up
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No one here has the balls to simply say that Trump should reveal the proof of the crime that he claims to have.
Maybe he saw Greg Phillips' evidence? ??? I don't know, but I think if he has evidence, that he should put it out there as long as it's not tied in with any "top secret" documents which is highly unlikely.
But to the folks who tell him to quit bitching, I believe he's pissed that there are people challenging his validity. He won, and until the other side admits he's their president and moves on, he's probably going to keep uttering shit like this.
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Sorry. I stand corrected
You have the balls to say he should put it out there.
Don't you think he has an obligation to do so?
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Sorry. I stand corrected
You have the balls to say he should put it out there.
Don't you think he has an obligation to do so?
Yes like I said, if he has evidence that there is a massive fraud (and 3-5 million votes is massive) he needs to put it out there. When he doubled down on the issue, he brought it on himself. There is no way out without admitting there was fraud and show it, or to admit your source was incorrect and apologize. As long as it doesn't put anyone in jeopardy or anything like that, I will go so far as to say he NEEDS to put the evidence out there. And I'm about as far from left as you can get.
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Yes like I said, if he has evidence that there is a massive fraud (and 3-5 million votes is massive) he needs to put it out there. When he doubled down on the issue, he brought it on himself. There is no way out without admitting there was fraud and show it, or to admit your source was incorrect and apologize. As long as it doesn't put anyone in jeopardy or anything like that, I will go so far as to say he NEEDS to put the evidence out there. And I'm about as far from left as you can get.
I will agree that if he has the proof, then he should as well.
If I'm wrong by stating that voter fraud is a non issue and he can show that MILLIONS of people voted illegally, then I need to be shown so I STFU about it being a non-issue.
If he can prove it, I'll back any voter ID measure you ask for.
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Yes like I said, if he has evidence that there is a massive fraud (and 3-5 million votes is massive) he needs to put it out there. When he doubled down on the issue, he brought it on himself. There is no way out without admitting there was fraud and show it, or to admit your source was incorrect and apologize. As long as it doesn't put anyone in jeopardy or anything like that, I will go so far as to say he NEEDS to put the evidence out there. And I'm about as far from left as you can get.
Glad to hear it and I totally agree
He could just as easily say I'm giving all this evidence to my Attorney General and/or Congress and they will investigate and report back to the American people.
I would say this is incumbent upon him as POTUS to do so.
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No, this is not fake news. Honestly, I heard the white house press secretary say it... I thought I was losing my mind when I heard it.
It's pretty stupid for it to be a thing. Trump won, period... According to the rules of the US Constitution, he won... He shouldn't stoop down to the level of worrying about the number of votes.
And this was my point about being fake news. I heard what the press secretary said as well and I agree this should be another non-issue, but this WILL grow into something bigger than it should be and will in fact become "fake news".
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Straw is going full blown 240 with Trump....and we all know how that turned out in the end.
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Straw is going full blown 240 with Trump....and we all know how that turned out in the end.
merely reporting exactly what was said by the spokesperson for the POTUS
why don't you want these 3 to 5 million fraudulent voters caught and prosecuted?
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And this was my point about being fake news. I heard what the press secretary said as well and I agree this should be another non-issue, but this WILL grow into something bigger than it should be and will in fact become "fake news".
It started bigger than it should be because the Press Secretary said it... because Trump told him to.
It's just ridiculous. Anything the President says that is ridiculous is bigger than it should be because he's The President of The United States.
The position makes everything big.
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People on this board don't care about fraud voter anymore
That's really good to know. Now if anyone tries to bring it up I can just point out that you don't care anymore. 8)
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If the new President has reason to think we had millions of fraudulent voters, it's a serious issue.
Thus, as POTUS, he is obligated to have it investigated and prosecute any found guilty of this felony.
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If the new President has reason to think we had millions of fraudulent voters, it's a serious issue.
Thus, as POTUS, he is obligated to have it investigated and prosecute any found guilty of this felony.
Trump is just trolling. He probably doesn't really care who won the popular vote, or how many attended his inauguration.
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Straw started this thread, I posted three videos that proved the fraud. He didn't want to see them although they were up during the race. More times than not and as a result of the MSM not showing this type of evidence along with the wikileaks it proves that most of the left, including all the protesters most of which were payed by Soros have no clue. The only thing I can really blame left wingers (like strawman) for is not doing the research on a candidate.
The left doesn't want voter ID because they know that would kill them.
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Sean Spicer refers to non-existent 2008 Pew Research Study
The guy who conducted an actual voter fraud study for Pew says voter fraud is "exceedingly rare"
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/01/25/voter-fraud-sean-spicer-comments-david-becker-intv-anderson-cooper-bts-ac.cnn
It will be fun to see Trump have to react to the results of his investigation when he is presented with the fact that he's completely wrong
I suspect he will just reject the results and insist they are wrong and he is right
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Straw started this thread, I posted three videos that proved the fraud. He didn't want to see them although they were up during the race. More times than not and as a result of the MSM not showing this type of evidence along with the wikileaks it proves that most of the left, including all the protesters most of which were payed by Soros have no clue. The only thing I can really blame left wingers (like strawman) for is not doing the research on a candidate.
The left doesn't want voter ID because they know that would kill them.
James O'Queef is not a journalist and has used deceptive editing in the past. He's a proven fraud that should not be taken seriously.
If he really wants to prove anything he should be releasing unedited versions of the conversations.
http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/18/project-veritas-election-videos/ (http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/18/project-veritas-election-videos/)
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It will be fun to see Trump have to react to the results of his investigation when he is presented with the fact that he's completely wrong
You mean like this?
"Jill Stein's crusade to expose voter fraud blows the lid off ballot box fraud in Detroit where Hillary Clinton won big.
The recount crusade of Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein may have turned up massive voter irregularities, but they're not the kind Democrats were hoping to find.
In heavily-Democratic Detroit, more votes than voters were found across the city and now state Republicans are calling for an investigation."
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/12/14/steins-recount-turns-more-votes-voters-detroit
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Apparently Trump has heard Straw Man's concerns. ;D
Donald Trump calls for 'major investigation' into 2016 election voter fraud
"Donald Trump has said he will call for a "major investigation" into voter fraud in the 2016 election. Mr Trump's team have repeatedly suggested "millions" of illegal ballots swayed the result of the popular vote last year, which went in Hillary Clinton's favour, without presenting evidence.
The President tweeted on Wednesday morning: "I will be asking for a major investigation into VOTER FRAUD, including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and... even, those registered to vote who are dead (and many for a long time). Depending on results, we will strengthen up voting procedures!"
Trump supporters have widely shared unverified claims, published by right wing websites, that at least three million illegal immigrants were able to vote in the staunchly Blue states of California and New York.
Mr Trump brought up the claim during a meeting with congressional leaders on Monday night, referring to "three to five million illegals", to the confusion and dismay of senior Republicans.
And on Wednesday, Republican Senator John McCain said Mr Trump's assertions were unsubstantiated."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-voter-fraud-investigation-2016-election-results-illegal-hillary-clinton-a7545246.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-voter-fraud-investigation-2016-election-results-illegal-hillary-clinton-a7545246.html)
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James O'Queef is not a journalist and has used deceptive editing in the past. He's a proven fraud that should not be taken seriously.
If he really wants to prove anything he should be releasing unedited versions of the conversations.
http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/18/project-veritas-election-videos/ (http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/18/project-veritas-election-videos/)
Holy shit, this is precisely why you guys got your asses handed to you in the election doesn't make any difference who took that video the proof is right in front of you. Donna Brazile tried pulling the same crap you just did on National TV and became a laughing stock. Quit living in denial and wake the hell up.
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Sean Spicer refers to non-existent 2008 Pew Research Study
The guy who conducted an actual voter fraud study for Pew says voter fraud is "exceedingly rare"
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/01/25/voter-fraud-sean-spicer-comments-david-becker-intv-anderson-cooper-bts-ac.cnn
It will be fun to see Trump have to react to the results of his investigation when he is presented with the fact that he's completely wrong
I suspect he will just reject the results and insist they are wrong and he is right
Then we can get shiny new Voter ID laws! 8)
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Holy shit, this is precisely why you guys got your asses handed to you in the election doesn't make any difference who took that video the proof is right in front of you. Donna Brazile tried pulling the same crap you just did on National TV and became a laughing stock. Quit living in denial and wake the hell up.
I don't even live in your country so it wasn't 'us guys'. I just don't have a lot of patience for horse shit. James O'Queef is a known fraud. I will never take his work seriously.
We will see how Trump's potential investigation goes.
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I don't even live in your country so it wasn't 'us guys'. I just don't have a lot of patience for horse shit. James O'Queef is a known fraud. I will never take his work seriously.
We will see how Trump's potential investigation goes.
What country do you reside in Skeet?
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What country do you reside in Skeet?
Canada.
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Canada.
ah! a syrup Hebrew from up North!
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ah! a syrup Hebrew from up North!
;D ;D ;D
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Trump is just trolling. He probably doesn't really care who won the popular vote, or how many attended his inauguration.
As the POTUS, he shouldn't be trolling or he'll quickly lose credibility .
he does care about losing the popular vote and his ego is butt hurt.
Same issue with the inauguration crowd size.
He's the legitimately elected President.
Time to stop childish twitter wars and popularity contests.
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he does care about losing the popular vote and his ego is butt hurt.
Same issue with the inauguration crowd size.
Source on this?
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As the POTUS, he shouldn't be trolling or he'll quickly lose credibility .
he does care about losing the popular vote and his ego is butt hurt.
Same issue with the inauguration crowd size.
Yes, yes, as candidate for president of the USA too Trump shouldn't have been trolling, or so many people said. However, Trump went on trolling, being himself, and he won the presidential election against all odds, very efficiently, and spending very little money.
How do you know Trump really does care about who won the popular vote or how many attended his inauguration? He's trolling you, the media, and the rest of the Libs, and you're all falling for it.
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Great example of Trump trolling the media:
Trump Cabinet Hopeful Accidentally Reveals Immigration Plans in Document Blunder
"In an Associated Press photo of Kobach heading into the meeting taken outside of Trump's New Jersey golf club, a piece of paper in Kobach's hand is facing outward, revealing a bit of what may have been discussed in the meeting."
(https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/trump-kobach-homeland-security.jpg?w=560)
http://time.com/4579156/kris-kobach-dhs-document-blunder-photo/
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Trump trolling Ted Cruz.
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You mean like this?
"Jill Stein's crusade to expose voter fraud blows the lid off ballot box fraud in Detroit where Hillary Clinton won big.
The recount crusade of Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein may have turned up massive voter irregularities, but they're not the kind Democrats were hoping to find.
In heavily-Democratic Detroit, more votes than voters were found across the city and now state Republicans are calling for an investigation."
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/12/14/steins-recount-turns-more-votes-voters-detroit
Are you aware the first sentence in your post is from a tweet from "Fox and Friends" which claims "ballot box fraud" is unfounded and actually contradicts the article.
I wonder why Fox and Friends would LIE to their viewers. I guess just more proof of Fake News
Here are some excerpts of a much more detailed articles from the Detroit Free Press (no doubt many more details than teh average Faux News viewer could ever process)
In 248 precincts, there were a total of 782 more votes tabulated by voting machines than the number of voters listed as picking up ballots in the precincts’ poll books. That makes up just three-tenths of 1% of the total 248,211 votes that were logged in Detroit for the presidential election. That number was far too small to swing the statewide election results, even in this year’s especially tight race that saw a Republican win Michigan for the first time since George Bush in 1988.
The Free Press analysis found there were 248 precincts in Detroit where voting machines tabulated more Election Day votes than people who were counted as checking in to vote. The affected precincts represent 37% of the city's 662 precincts.
Most of those overages were by small amounts — on average about 3 votes — with the largest being 12 votes in a single precinct. Those small numbers, which add up to 782 total spread out across more than 200 precincts, tend to point to human or machine malfunction as the culprit, rather than widespread fraud.
Detroit's inability to reconcile its ballots with its voter lists was exposed in the recount requested by Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein that was later ordered stopped by the Michigan Supreme Court. The discrepancy became national news, including headlines suggesting voter fraud.
Reasons for the under-counted and over-counted votes are unclear, although in some cases people may have signed in to vote, then left before casting their ballots because of long lines. Machine malfunctions also may have played a role; on Election Day, more than 80 optical vote scanners broke down in Detroit.
The state Bureau of Elections plans to conduct audits of about 20 Detroit precincts that couldn’t be recounted. Those ballots are to be brought to Lansing for an audit that should last for at least three weeks, said Chris Thomas, director of elections for the state.
“We don’t have any suspicion of fraud. We generally approach this as human error," Thomas said last week. "We’re going to take a look at them to make sure there’s not a need for further explanations."
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2016/12/18/detroit-ballots-vote-recount-election-stein/95570866/
http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/michigans-elections-bureau-audit-detroit-precincts/95349562/
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Reasons for the under-counted and over-counted votes are unclear.
Sure they are.
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Sure they are.
I get it dude
You got duped by a lie by Faux News and now you just want to ignore the facts
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I get it dude
You got duped by a lie by Faux News and now you just want to ignore the facts
Actually, you're the one who highlighted "ballot box fraud" in my post from Fox News. That wasn't the point of my post. The point was about Jill Stein's crusade to expose voter fraud and the results she got.
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Actually, you're the one who highlighted "ballot box fraud" in my post from Fox News. That wasn't the point of my post. The point was about Jill Stein's crusade to expose voter fraud and the results she got.
yep and the results she got didn't find any fraud and the miscounted votes represented three tenths of one percent and had absolutely no effect on the outcome of the vote
Here is a summary from Snopes:
http://www.snopes.com/more-votes-than-voters-in-detroit/
So while elections officials in Detroit confirmed that voting irregularities involving excess vote counts existed, that issue was about inaccurate head counts taken by poll workers rather than fraud. The discrepancies mostly involved a handful of votes per precinct, and neither candidate was believed to have been favored by the errors.
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yep and the results she got didn't find any fraud and the miscounted votes represented three tenths of one percent and had absolutely no effect on the outcome of the vote
I never said otherwise. I always thought Jill Stein's crusade to expose voter fraud was itself a fraud.
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I never said otherwise. I always thought Jill Stein's crusade to expose voter fraud was itself a fraud.
sorry - I see that now from your original post on page 4
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Source on this?
My OPINION ;) No more, no less. This is an open forum and we give...opinions.
Which begs for me to post this timeless phrase:
" Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and some stink more then others."
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Yes, yes, as candidate for president of the USA too Trump shouldn't have been trolling, or so many people said. However, Trump went on trolling, being himself, and he won the presidential election against all odds, very efficiently, and spending very little money.
How do you know Trump really does care about who won the popular vote or how many attended his inauguration? He's trolling you, the media, and the rest of the Libs, and you're all falling for it.
And while he's trolling and everyone is concerned about voter fraud, he's signing EO's on walls and immigration and no one knows which way to look. He's distracting everyone to slide more important things through with minimal coverage.
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And while he's trolling and everyone is concerned about voter fraud, he's signing EO's on walls and immigration and no one knows which way to look. He's distracting everyone to slide more important things through with minimal coverage.
I am pretty sure that stuff is covered pretty well.
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Snopes ? LMFAO
Id trust Snoopy over Snopes
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And while he's trolling and everyone is concerned about voter fraud, he's signing EO's on walls and immigration and no one knows which way to look. He's distracting everyone to slide more important things through with minimal coverage.
Exactly!
I am pretty sure that stuff is covered pretty well.
Rolling Stone magazine contributing editor Matt Taibbi spoke to Yahoo News
Taibbi spoke with Golodryga about how Trump has transformed political news coverage. He said, “Trump’s main innovation as a politician has been to turn American politics into a reality show, and he’s been extremely effective at doing that. And it’s completely changed the entire landscape of the media.” He continued, “We’ve almost forgotten how to cover the other real story: about policies.”
His advice for journalists covering President Trump: “We’re almost entirely focused on this changing- every-second soap opera that’s going on, that swirls around Donald Trump and that’s to his advantage. I think what we have to do is focus on hard-core specific serious policy stuff as much as possible and try not to get in the circus reality that he’s distracting the press with.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rolling-stones-matt-taibbi-thinks-the-white-house-will-shut-out-the-press-224045412.html
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Exactly!
Rolling Stone magazine contributing editor Matt Taibbi spoke to Yahoo News
Taibbi spoke with Golodryga about how Trump has transformed political news coverage. He said, “Trump’s main innovation as a politician has been to turn American politics into a reality show, and he’s been extremely effective at doing that. And it’s completely changed the entire landscape of the media.” He continued, “We’ve almost forgotten how to cover the other real story: about policies.”
His advice for journalists covering President Trump: “We’re almost entirely focused on this changing- every-second soap opera that’s going on, that swirls around Donald Trump and that’s to his advantage. I think what we have to do is focus on hard-core specific serious policy stuff as much as possible and try not to get in the circus reality that he’s distracting the press with.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rolling-stones-matt-taibbi-thinks-the-white-house-will-shut-out-the-press-224045412.html
Taibbi is giving Trump way too much credit
This is not an act. This is the genuine personality of this person
His first thought as the leader of this country are HIS FEELINGS ABOUT HIMSELF
it's not complicated nor is it some cunning diversion tactic
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Taibbi is giving Trump way too much credit
This is not an act. This is the genuine personality of this person
His first thought as the leader of this country are HIS FEELINGS ABOUT HIMSELF
it's not complicated nor is it some cunning diversion tactic
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Straw is starting to reek of 240
posting his opinions like they are fact. I have a lot of liberals on my social media doing the same.
It's going to be okay. God Emperor Trump will make America great again.
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Straw is starting to reek of 240
posting his opinions like they are fact. I have a lot of liberals on my social media doing the same.
It's going to be okay. God Emperor Trump will make America great again.
I'm posting my opinions as if they are my opinions....just like everyone else on this board
btw - no idea what the frog is supposed to mean
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Dude, c'mon, he's no God LOL.
He's a 70 yr old dude with a 54" waist and an animal fur glued to his melon.
and a pitch perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect
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Dude, c'mon, he's no God LOL.
He's a 70 yr old dude with a 54" waist and an animal fur glued to his melon.
Did Yamcha say that Trump is God? When? That's pretty fooked up. ???
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Straw is starting to reek of 240
posting his opinions like they are fact. I have a lot of liberals on my social media doing the same.
It's going to be okay. God Emperor Trump will make America great again.
Straw might reek of 240 to you, but he ain't no 240.
SaintAnger on the other hand...
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Straw might reek of 240 to you, but he ain't no 240.
SaintAnger on the other hand...
Yep, they have different posting styles. He is as blinded as 240 but they are different.
Saint is a dead ringer since he started posting more. It would be a lot more fun if gimmicks would give themselves up when caught. If three or more call the gimmick out by name and are correct he must admit to who he is. It would improve their "gimmickery" if they did that. Make it more interesting. They could come back and try again if its so important for them to be undercover.
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Straw is starting to reek of 240
posting his opinions like they are fact. I have a lot of liberals on my social media doing the same.
It's going to be okay. God Emperor Trump will make America great again.
Straw is more intelligent, yet a bit more crotchety than 240. Not the same dude.
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He's been right more than wrong for those who are holding on to the idea that he is some orange madman. Eventually y'all will catch on.
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He's been right more than wrong for those who are holding on to the idea that he is some orange madman. Eventually y'all will catch on.
Half right. Eventually you will catch on.
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just watched Gregg Phillips being interviewed on CNN
Can't provide any proof, explain his methodology or how he got access to whatever information he has.
Claims he knows NOW but can't provide anything for a few months
This sounds just like Trumps bullshit claims about his "investigation" into Obama's birth certificate
He said his investigators couldn't believe what they were finding and that he would reveal it all to the American people.
Of course he had nothing thus could reveal nothing.
He's doing the same thing with this bullshit about voter fraud but the difference this time is that he's not just some private citizen douchebag make unproven claims. He's the POTUS douchebag making unproven claims and he's painting himself into a corner.
I predict he'll try to get out of this by saying he's too busy, doesn't care anymore, etc.... Anything to hold onto his bullshit belief while not having to actually provide the non-existent proof.
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just watched Gregg Phillips being interviewed on CNN
Can't provide any proof, explain his methodology or how he got access to whatever information he has.
Claims he knows NOW but can't provide anything for a few months
This sounds just like Trumps bullshit claims about his "investigation" into Obama's birth certificate
He said his investigators couldn't believe what they were finding and that he would reveal it all to the American people.
Of course he had nothing thus could reveal nothing.
He's doing the same thing with this bullshit about voter fraud but the difference this time is that he's not just some private citizen douchebag make unproven claims. He's the POTUS douchebag making unproven claims and he's painting himself into a corner.
I predict he'll try to get out of this by saying he's too busy, doesn't care anymore, etc.... Anything to hold onto his bullshit belief while not having to actually provide the non-existent proof.