Then prove me wrong with your clinical studies? I know of no clinical studies on PCT for bodybuilders and even if there were it is of no use other than what I mentioned in my last post. Stop trying to complicate things by pretending bodybuilding is a science experiment.
That's my point, Disgusted.
There are no clinical studies for our control group (lifters using AAS) because it doesn't apply to medical research, has no realistic application that the FDA considers "worthy".
As far as I'm concerned this is all the undiscovered country. What works for you may not work for me due to genetic predisposition, but on that same token you can't make hard and fast rules based on hearsay. Your "facts" are bullshit, and can't be proven. You only know what works for you, so keep your comments limited to that and you'll be fine. Otherwise you're reaching...........and I caught you.
Dude, I suspect you have read Anthony Roberts' PCT article. Correct?You need to take a harder look at this stuff and not just swallow up everything some new "guru" is touting for the moment. Fact is, Roberts' pulls a bunch of stuff out of his ass and a lot of it is more hypothesis than fact. Clomid isn't outdated. It has been shown to work in restoring the HPTA after a steroid cycle in studies. Sure, nolva might work a bit better, who knows, but a lot of people also think it's more toxic than clomid. It's a known carcinogen also. Liver toxic too.
Don't be so uncritical Div. Just because you do the latest, greatest PCT doesn't mean it fail safe. Are you getting your T levels checked frequently?
I form my beliefs based on experience and reading all the latest information from all the gurus: Roberts, Llewellyn, Duchaine, Rea.....
I don't weigh any one more than the others, but I take what they say and apply it, and if it works for me, then so be it. I know it's not the gospel, that's understood.
Nolvadex works better than Clomid for purposes of a PCT stack. It blocks estrogen more readily and stimulates FSH/LH and at a lower dose than Clomid. You need 150MG of Clomid to get the same benefit from 20MG of Nolvadex.
If Nolvadex was that much of a danger, carcinogenic as you say, then why is it given to female cancer patients? I get regular bloodwork, so my Test, hepatic, BP, thyroid are all in check.
Say what you will about Roberts, but his adding Aromasin to PCT for purposes of an anti-aromatase was genius. Arimidex and Femara inhibit Nolvadex, while Aromasin provides a synergistic effect for bringing endegenous hormone levels back up to par.
DIV