Another idiots who's never been around urban black areas Black men tend to have thicker abs. Plus Meso is about 5'9" or so and 190 lbs. He's not a monster by any means. He's got full muscle bellies, which most black men have. He never claimed to eat oreos. He just said he doesn't diet, but eats Jamaican food, which actually has quite a bit of protein in it. Go away already.
Like I said I believed this guy might have been, MIGHT have been natural until he says he eats chips and oreos and does no cardio and doesn't diet. Once he said that I knew he was full of shit. No one has that great of genetics.
I know plenty of blacks. They can be huge mothers but none of them have his conditioning coupled with that development. yea, many black guys have great genes but you still wont find a black from before the 50s (presteroid) with that bodyfat and that kind of development. wont happen.
he has a physique that beats all the pre-steroid era dudes and many users*
you and sweetanus are obviously only trying to convince yourselfs that meso cant be natural.=defeatist attitude+ignorance = loser salsa.
You fucktard I grew up in East St. Louis, LOOK IT UP! I've probably had more black friends and been around more black guys than you've ever seen in your entire life. You have no clue what you are talking about. You act like every black guy walking around in "da hood" is some sort of ubergenetic bodybuilding freak. Far from it. The only guys walking around with abs like that are either on the basketball court doing copious amounts of cardio or running from the cops on a daily basis.
How do you know it beats pre-steriod physiques, were you there? I don't agree with your guesses. Besides which things like nutrition and training have improved since then.
hahaha such a great argument you have to call people names instead of answer the charges. He could be natural and if he is then we are witnessing the greatest natural of all time. this dude has abs like no other from the pre-steroid times had. you need to go back in time and look at some real bodybuilders from the 50s and before and then you'll realize how dumb and ignorant you really are.
Dude, you heard of a fucking camera? You heard of Reeves, Grimek, Ross? Go look at the ironage sites and look at pre-steroid era physiques. I know you got jungle fever but you gotta face facts, this is obviously not a natural physique and when he says the shit he does about eating crap all the time it makes it even more obvious.
answer the charges? i dont have answer any charges from you. i been on here for several years keeping it real, im far from naive when it comes to bodybuilding. but sometimes ignorant people like you lower the bar too far. (mix of defeatist attitude and ignorance...like i said)and im well versed with bodybuilding history, so you dont have to preach to the choir.
do i think he's natural? i'm highly dubious.
Bullshit, you've offered no rational arguments at all. Just juvenile shit like insults and 'he's natural, I can tell' you got called out on it and couldn't even muster up a defence and instead just meltdown. So fucking what you been here a few years? That doesn't change the fucking fact that if this dude who eats oreos and junk is really natural then he beats just about every proven natural into submission Roll Eyes If he's natural then he's the greatest ever and doing a few cycles would see him turn pro .
I don't think you realize how big they were in reality, there's not much of a sense of scale in those pics, which you may not realize.
i seen several people who are natural with physiques like meso...so im guessing your living in estrogenville
well that's immaterial. We're judging photographs. I haven't seen this dude in 'reality' but I can sure as hell say that there ain't no naturals from the pre-steroid era who look as good as this guy. That condition and those arms are a dead giveaway.
well that's immaterial. We're judging photographs. I haven't seen this dude in 'reality' but I can sure as hell say that there ain't no naturals from the pre-steroid era who look as good as this guy. That condition and those arms are a dead giveaway. I would put everything on him not being '1000% natural' . Hell, if he is then props to him as he's the greatest natural of all time. I can't think of anyone from the golden age who looked remotely as good and conditioned
Post their pictures
I think I'll pull a sevetese and post my photo for no reason.and yes.. Natural.
Wrong, you're speculating. Guys like Reeves were pretty damn big, it's just not that obvious. Same for Leroy Colbert, and i don't know that he was juicing.