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« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2018, 02:16:21 AM »
expand Israel as a world power and sooner or later overtake the USA...just theories ive read....keep in mind in Clinton's hacked emails had  emails pertaining to taking control of Syria...im too lazy to look them up

but Israel didn't exist until the UN gave it to them now they want to become a world power ???  US only helps them and are they going to stab us in the back for it?  what kind of people do that ?

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« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2018, 02:45:46 AM »
but Israel didn't exist until the UN gave it to them now they want to become a world power ???  US only helps them and are they going to stab us in the back for it?  what kind of people do that ?


Shia & Sunni muslims (aka world back stubbing champions)

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« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2018, 03:22:19 AM »
Because USA is the puppet who dances at the end of Zionist Israel's strings!!!!

Israel has no interest in a volatile and divided civil / proxy war torn Syria.

Stability and predictability are much more benficial for neighbouring countries like Jordan, Lebanon and Israel

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« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2018, 03:24:27 AM »
but Israel didn't exist until the UN gave it to them now they want to become a world power ???  US only helps them and are they going to stab us in the back for it?  what kind of people do that ?

Let me guess: your parents were anti semitic, and without a mind or thought or your own, you now are one as well?

Either that or you are a muslim

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Re: Assad Didn't Do It - Faked Syrian Gas Attack
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2018, 06:14:27 AM »
I am strongly anti-Assad and think he is a smooth, hyper cruel dictator and has ruined his own country (and Lebanon for that matter). It has nothing to do with Russia or Israel, Saudi, Iran
etc. although they certainly play a role. McCain, Graham and other Republicans hate Assad out of moral principle, not because of their support for Israel (at least give them that). But here’s the dilemma: does US getting involved do any good? The situation is so complicated that sometimes we just muck it it up worse (Iraq?)

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« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2018, 06:59:42 AM »
Israel has no interest in a volatile and divided civil / proxy war torn Syria.

Stability and predictability are much more benficial for neighbouring countries like Jordan, Lebanon and Israel

Israel clearly do have a major interest in all this. They've even launched their own air strikes against Syrian forces.

McCain, Graham and other Republicans hate Assad out of moral principle, not because of their support for Israel (at least give them that).

I'm sure they'd be pleased that you actually believe that. Odd that they don't seem to have a problem with the human rights abuse carried out by the Saudi's and the war crimes they are currently committing in Yemen. Almost as though their moral principles are constantly shifting.

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« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2018, 07:42:15 AM »
Israel clearly do have a major interest in all this. They've even launched their own air strikes against Syrian forces.

I'm sure they'd be pleased that you actually believe that. Odd that they don't seem to have a problem with the human rights abuse carried out by the Saudi's and the war crimes they are currently committing in Yemen. Almost as though their moral principles are constantly shifting.

You have a point and I agree it’s selective. We all are selective about what we focus on. That does not make it less genuine. Do you really think McCain is in his last months on the planet worrying about his next payoff?

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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2018, 08:32:02 AM »
You have a point and I agree it’s selective. We all are selective about what we focus on. That does not make it less genuine. Do you really think McCain is in his last months on the planet worrying about his next payoff?

Almost all conflicts are driven by financial reasons. Why are the US so friendly with the Saudi's for instance? Syria under Assad is seen by America as being a vassal of Russia/Iran and therefore, the regime is the problem which needs replacing (even if that means being supportive of Muslim Jihadists).
"Morality" and "humanity" is just the excuse used since it is the only thing which can convince the public to be supportive of military intervention. Considering the war in Iraq was a disaster that resulted in the deaths of thousands of civilians, it's hypocrisy for anyone who supported that to now take the moral high ground. 

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« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2018, 08:40:43 AM »
You have a point and I agree it’s selective. We all are selective about what we focus on. That does not make it less genuine. Do you really think McCain is in his last months on the planet worrying about his next payoff?


Yes, the piece of human filth is corrupted and that is all he cares about.
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« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2018, 08:42:51 AM »
Israel has no interest in a volatile and divided civil / proxy war torn Syria.

Stability and predictability are much more benficial for neighbouring countries like Jordan, Lebanon and Israel

Let me guess, your parents are morons, and so are you.

Either that or you are a Jew.

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« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2018, 08:46:06 AM »

Yes, the piece of human filth is corrupted and that is all he cares about.


What some genuinely good natured people cannot comprehend, is that there are people out their with hearts consumed by evil, so much so that there is no good in them.  And many such men hold high office in the united states.  The ex VP for example - seemingly a pedophile.  Obama - probably a sexual deviant into all sorts of diseased perversion, and a man consumed with hatred for the white race.  GWB Jr - a demon in human skin...

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Re: Assad Didn't Do It - Faked Syrian Gas Attack
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2018, 09:31:12 AM »
Almost all conflicts are driven by financial reasons. Why are the US so friendly with the Saudi's for instance? Syria under Assad is seen by America as being a vassal of Russia/Iran and therefore, the regime is the problem which needs replacing (even if that means being supportive of Muslim Jihadists).
"Morality" and "humanity" is just the excuse used since it is the only thing which can convince the public to be supportive of military intervention. Considering the war in Iraq was a disaster that resulted in the deaths of thousands of civilians, it's hypocrisy for anyone who supported that to now take the moral high ground. 

Your rationale above says nothing about what Assad has done to his own nation and his own people. There is where the outrage is for many of us who stand by and watch. And yet intervene? Don’t know. Let’s see what Trump ends up doing. I would not like to be in his shoes trying to decide on that. Also, wonder what Macron and Theresa May are saying to him if anything. The US still ends up carrying the burden. Yes, financial interests underpin all of this, but that does not make the moral issues go away.

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« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2018, 10:26:03 AM »
Your rationale above says nothing about what Assad has done to his own nation and his own people. There is where the outrage is for many of us who stand by and watch.

My opinion of Assad is different. To me, he's just doing everything he can to defend his country from Jihadists who would have turned the place into another failed state (ie. Afghanistan or Libya). The uprising against him was almost entirely a Saudi funded movement mostly made up of radical Jihadists.
For that reason, he has my support.


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« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2018, 10:47:54 AM »
My opinion of Assad is different. To me, he's just doing everything he can to defend his country from Jihadists who would have turned the place into another failed state (ie. Afghanistan or Libya). The uprising against him was almost entirely a Saudi funded movement mostly made up of radical Jihadists.
For that reason, he has my support.



Wow, do I disagree with you on that. Tell that to the majority Sunni population just trying to get by day to day. It’s true that ISIS et. al. snuck into his opposition but that is not the main part of the picture. 99 percent of US foreign policy experts will disagree with you there. But Putin will agree with you for sure. Are you Russian?

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« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2018, 11:31:39 AM »
Wow, do I disagree with you on that. Tell that to the majority Sunni population just trying to get by day to day. It’s true that ISIS et. al. snuck into his opposition but that is not the main part of the picture. 99 percent of US foreign policy experts will disagree with you there. But Putin will agree with you for sure. Are you Russian?

I'm from the UK but I am an admirer of Putin.
Regarding Syria, there are many Sunni's who support Assad, including some who serve in his forces.
The uprising against Assad has always been spearheaded by Jihadists, not just ISIS but other groups like Al Nusra. Even the group who were recently controlling Douma were called Jaish Al Islam (Army of Islam).
Who are these foreign policy experts? Are they the same ones who claimed that Saddam Hussein had WMD and posed a global threat? The very same people who lied about Iraq are now lying about Syria.

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« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2018, 12:05:19 PM »
I'm from the UK but I am an admirer of Putin.
Regarding Syria, there are many Sunni's who support Assad, including some who serve in his forces.
The uprising against Assad has always been spearheaded by Jihadists, not just ISIS but other groups like Al Nusra. Even the group who were recently controlling Douma were called Jaish Al Islam (Army of Islam).
Who are these foreign policy experts? Are they the same ones who claimed that Saddam Hussein had WMD and posed a global threat? The very same people who lied about Iraq are now lying about Syria.

Regardless of which perspective, it’s extremely complicated and I’m willing to listen to all sides (although I think Putin is pretty evil so that side with an enormous grain of salt). Obama and Trump have probably been wise to largely stay out of it. Agree with you that the “experts” have no lock on the truth here, and have built in biases depending on where they sit.

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« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2018, 04:47:10 PM »
Regardless of which perspective, it’s extremely complicated and I’m willing to listen to all sides (although I think Putin is pretty evil so that side with an enormous grain of salt). Obama and Trump have probably been wise to largely stay out of it. Agree with you that the “experts” have no lock on the truth here, and have built in biases depending on where they sit.
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« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2018, 05:37:00 PM »
Remember when Obama and Kerry were bragging about getting all of the chemical weapons out of Syria?

They were tooting their own horns.

Where is the media? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? ABC?

Nobody but FOX covering the Obama/Kerry clusterfuck.

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Re: Assad Didn't Do It - Faked Syrian Gas Attack
« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2018, 05:49:55 PM »
Dumbfuck will surely go to war with Syria now to deflect all the shit he is getting with Cohen. 

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« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2018, 06:06:32 PM »
Remember when Obama and Kerry were bragging about getting all of the chemical weapons out of Syria?

They were tooting their own horns.

Where is the media? CNN? MSNBC? CBS? ABC?

Nobody but FOX covering the Obama/Kerry clusterfuck.

Obama did, Trump let them back in while he was on the back 9.

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« Reply #45 on: April 13, 2018, 10:39:06 PM »
Your rationale above says nothing about what Assad has done to his own nation and his own people. There is where the outrage is for many of us who stand by and watch. And yet intervene? Don’t know. Let’s see what Trump ends up doing. I would not like to be in his shoes trying to decide on that. Also, wonder what Macron and Theresa May are saying to him if anything. The US still ends up carrying the burden. Yes, financial interests underpin all of this, but that does not make the moral issues go away.

You are being intentional deceptive.  It's clear as mud.

So many evils in this world but you just see the ZIO world view...

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Re: Assad Didn't Do It - Faked Syrian Gas Attack
« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2018, 10:46:22 PM »
Why do Jew's like money so much?

This is usually what lazy unsuccessful liberal/socialists say.

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« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2018, 10:50:32 PM »
This is usually what lazy unsuccessful liberal/socialists say.

You are a zionist loving loser.  You are the fool heart of America.

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« Reply #48 on: April 14, 2018, 04:09:40 AM »
You are a zionist loving loser.  You are the fool heart of America.
Yep. Coach is acting like a good goy. It is clear as daylight Assad is being framed as usual.

Putin is a great leader let's see what comes of this. Part of me is hoping that Trump is just playing along with the neocons / zionists but that he won't follow their agenda.

Russian President Vladimir Putin, in an interview with French publication Le Figaro, has revealed that a US president is more often than not just a figurehead of government. A certain person may be elected by the public on the basis of his merit and ideals – but rarely is this person able to formulate policy. Putin explained that the ‘bureaucracy’ in the US, which is more commonly known as the Deep State, is very powerful and as such does not allow any real change in direction. “Presidents come and go, but the politics remains the same.” As such, an individual, who may have his own genuine ideas, is elected into the White House only to satisfy the illusion of a democratic process taking place. In reality, “men in dark suits”, who remain anonymous to the voting public, continue to pursue the well-established interests of the US elite with each incoming administration.

Men in black suits = fake jews


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Re: Assad Didn't Do It - Faked Syrian Gas Attack
« Reply #49 on: April 14, 2018, 04:43:41 AM »
It’s just a weird twist of fate. Had oil not become a primary energy source, the Middle East would just be a backwards desert shit hole with tribes killing each other and nobody would care. However, with those giant oil supplies it’s a big fucking deal and can’t be ignored.