Total Deaths Caused by the Top 20 Mass Shootings in US History.

[visualizeperfection]

so should you own a bazooka? LAWS Rocket? I don't think anyone is seriously interested in divesting you of handguns or hunting rifles, at least I'm not and most people who are advocating gun control aren't. You're 2nd amendment is not in danger, its what is reasonable to own is what is being discussed,   agreed?

What's the difference between an AR15 and a mini 14 ranch rifle?

Semi auto, magazine fed, capable of scoped shooting etc etc.

[Agnostic007]

You're the guy crying about how mentally fucked up this kid was, and how we need new gun laws, etc.... But you even admit that they ones that could've stopped it were already there, and did nothing. But your solution is just to pile on more laws?

 my argument is reduce the access to military type weapons; If someone comes up on the no fly list, might want to look into that before selling them a military style weapon.. and yes, enforce the laws already on the books.

[Pray_4_War]

so should you own a bazooka? LAWS Rocket? I don't think anyone is seriously interested in divesting you of handguns or hunting rifles, at least I'm not and most people who are advocating gun control aren't. You're 2nd amendment is not in danger, its what is reasonable to own is what is being discussed,   agreed?

I do not agree.  The language of the 2nd Amendment is very interesting.  The founding fathers said "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"  The word infringe is what what intrigues me.  To "infringe" means...to encroach upon.  "Encroach" means...to enter by gradual steps or by stealth into the possessions or rights of another.  Gradual steps.  Not only did the founding fathers know that someday the government would try to take this right away, they also knew how.  In gradual steps, slowly, silently chipping away at it until it is gone.  Right in front of our faces.

No.

[Agnostic007]

I do not agree.  The language of the 2nd Amendment is very interesting.  The founding fathers said "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"  The word infringe is what what intrigues me.  To "infringe" means...to encroach upon.  "Encroach" means...to enter by gradual steps or by stealth into the possessions or rights of another.  Gradual steps.  Not only did the founding fathers know that someday the government would try to take this right away, they also knew how.  In gradual steps, slowly, silently chipping away at it until it is gone.  Right in front of our faces.

No.

There are constitutional scholars, much brighter than I am, that will argue, and it seems very compelling that the 2nd amendment wasn't about you or I keeping arms but a "well regulated militia" which we are obviously not.  So I don't think it is as cut and dried as you believe it to be. 

[Matt]

259 died  in the last 5 years ,dumb fuck , plus 100's injured

If you change the standard to 4+ people being shot as a "mass shooting", basically all of which are Black-on-Black drive-by shootings, or Hispanic-perpetrated.

Compare Canada to the USA in terms of murder after ADJUSTING FOR RACE, and then tell me how much more murder the USA has, 70% of which is perpetrated by Blacks or Hispanics - 51% by Black males alone!

Yeah, I'm the dumb fuck.  

PS - my favourite line from Canadians: "We are so much better than the USA.  We have so much less violence, and we love diversity."

*sigh*

FOR THE LAST F*CKING TIME, RACIAL DIVERSITY IS THE REASON WHY THE USA HAS SO MUCH MORE VIOLENCE TO BEGIN WITH.

[Matt]

There are constitutional scholars, much brighter than I am, that will argue, and it seems very compelling that the 2nd amendment wasn't about you or I keeping arms but a "well regulated militia" which we are obviously not.  So I don't think it is as cut and dried as you believe it to be. 

No.

Don't be a dumb fuck.  The constitution said that since all states need a "well-regulated militia", i.e., a MILITARY, to protect its borders, the people, i.e., the CITIZENS, need to have the right to bear arms to ensure the state militia [again, the MILITARY] doesn't turn against its people.

The founders of the USA had just fought a revolutionary war against the British.  Hence they knew that the people needed protection from the state.

So no, no, no, no, no.

Why do people keep repeating that? 

[BB]

my argument is reduce the access to military type weapons

Ok, so what happens when you eliminate "Assualt Rifles", and the inevitable black market springs up?

Shall we also curtail the 1st Amendment, and ban gun smithing books? Machinist books? 3d printing programs, CNC programs, etc....? All of those are making untraceable weapons available to anyone who is willing to put the time in. One only needs to look at youtube for that.

What shall we do with the probably 1/2 a billion firearms already out there? I'd venture that a good proportion of them fit the definition.

Also the magazine really is the biggest distinguishing part of a gun that turns it from a sporting arm to a military one. Those were only regulated from 94 - 2004. How would you deal with the few billion that are around now?

[Pray_4_War]

The founders of the USA had just fought a revolutionary war against the British.  Hence they knew that the people needed protection from the state.

This is the part that nobody talks about.  This context of just having fought against a tyrannical government.  That, and the fact that they say "the right of the people" make it pretty clear to me.  The militia part is a prefatory statement explaining why the right is necessary.  The language about what the actual right is and who it is for is quite clear.  If the purpose of the right is to fight the government and not to go hunting then you have to infer that they wouldn't want the government to have machine guns and force the people to only have pistols.  At that time citizens had the same guns that soldiers did.  In fact many of the cannons used in the civil war were privately owned. 

Scholars can argue anything.  Scholars argue that there is no such thing as gender.  The right is clear and it has been affirmed by the Supreme Court as being an individual right.

[Agnostic007]

No.

Don't be a dumb fuck.  The constitution said that since all states need a "well-regulated militia", i.e., a MILITARY, to protect its borders, the people, i.e., the CITIZENS, need to have the right to bear arms to ensure the state militia [again, the MILITARY] doesn't turn against its people.

The founders of the USA had just fought a revolutionary war against the British.  Hence they knew that the people needed protection from the state.

So no, no, no, no, no.

Why do people keep repeating that? 

Because it is truly ambiguous and depending on the interpretation can mean a couple things not unlike the bible and the many denominations. IF you care to copy and paste the actual amendment we can play scholar and debate it but there are supreme court justices who I dare say are more qualified to speak on it than a former cop and a math wizard, who have determined it means a militia. 

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This is the part that nobody talks about.  This context of just having fought against a tyrannical government.  That, and the fact that they say "the right of the people" make it pretty clear to me.  The militia part is a prefatory statement explaining why the right is necessary.  The language about what the actual right is and who it is for is quite clear.  If the purpose of the right is to fight the government and not to go hunting then you have to infer that they wouldn't want the government to have machine guns and force the people to only have pistols.  At that time citizens had the same guns that soldiers did.  In fact many of the cannons used in the civil war were privately owned. 

Scholars can argue anything.  Scholars argue that there is no such thing as gender.  The right is clear and it has been affirmed by the Supreme Court as being an individual right.

hahahaha   only in America would someone need a cannon for home use.

Fucks sake....

[Matt]

This is either some pretty lazy trolling or some pretty lazy reasoning. I don't think a child would even be foolish enough pass off such lazy analysis as thoughtful, much less someone with a "4 year university mathematics degree."

First, using only this chart as reference,  just a quick glance  shows that the vast majority of those shootings have happened in the last decade. Secondly, that chart shows that the shootings are trending deadlier as time progresses. Along with deadlier incidents, we see that as time progresses shootings become more common. 2009, 2012, 2015 and 2017 all have multiple entries on a list with only 20 spots. Thirdly, and most importantly, why are you using a sample that encompasses 70 years and 20 events and conflating it with the total number of shootings/deaths/injuries? No matter how many words you cram into your post or how many "mathematics degrees"   you have, that screenshot does  not equal 7 deaths a year.

The focus of this post is MASS SHOOTINGS because MASS SHOOTINGS are the events that are predominantly used by politicians and the Jewish/leftist media to disarm American citizens.  MY POINT is that mass shootings cause FUCK ALL in terms of deaths in the grand scheme of things.

MORE PEOPLE DIE EVERY THREE YEARS OF ANAPHYLACTIC SHOCK DUE TO PEANUTS FOR F*CK'S SAKE.

So if 433 deaths in 68 years scares you soooo much, then why aren't you banning peanuts, which killed over 10,000 people in the same time frame?

Seriously, if 433 deaths caused by something is cause to ban something, then an argument could be made to ban just about EVERYTHING.

In other words, banning assault rifles will do almost NOTHING in terms of lowering murder stats.  You are willing to give up the right that virtually assures that no government can EVER overthrow the citizens of the USA, all so the murder rate drops to 99.9% of what it currently is.  

PS - Good luck taking guns away from the people who believe in gun rights - they are the ones who own the 300 MILLION GUNS IN THE USA.

HAHAHAHAHA.

You gun-hating losers want to take the rights away from the people who own 300 million guns.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck with that.

PPS - Maybe you can use peanuts to confiscate the 300 million guns from gun owners once they refuse to give up their guns? 

Haha, stupid gun-hating losers.

[Matt]

hahahaha   only in America would someone need a cannon for home use.

Fucks sake....

Well, with a 80 million Black and Hispanic Americans who commit 70% of all murders, yeah, people do need more security in the USA, assuming they live in the states with high levels of racial diversity.  Those in majority-White areas are perfectly safe, with homicide rates roughly at or below 2.0 per 100,000 population per year, on par with Canada, Denmark, or any other majority-White nation.  Although one should note that all European and other White-majority nations are seeing an increase in violent crime as their rates of racial diversity increase.  Good.  As much as I hate it, it is finally teaching White liberal idiots a lesson.  It sucks that Vince Basile will be dead before the full accepted failure of racial diversity in the West is made official.  Having lived his entire life in lily-White Australia or where ever he hails from.

But let me guess, you live in Europe, Canada, or Australia, or some lily-White state of the USA, far from diversity where it's safe, then trash the USA for being too violent, not grasping that racial diversity is the REASON for that violence?

I love how all the other loser White-majority countries have imported diversity to prove they aren't racist, only to see their rape and murder rates skyrocket as a result, haha. 

Be careful what you wish for - you might just get it!  

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Well, with a 80 million Black and Hispanic Americans who commit 70% of all murders, yeah, people do need more security in the USA, assuming they live in the states with high levels of racial diversity.  Those in majority-White areas are perfectly safe, with homicide rates roughly at or below 2.0 per 100,000 population per year, on par with Canada, Denmark, or any other majority-White nation.  Although one should note that all European and other White-majority nations are seeing an increase in violent crime as their rates of racial diversity increase.  Good.  As much as I hate it, it is finally teaching White liberal idiots a lesson.  It sucks that Vince Basile will be dead before the full accepted failure of racial diversity in the West is made official.  Having lived his entire life in lily-White Australia or where ever he hails from.

But let me guess, you live in Europe, Canada, or Australia, or some lily-White state of the USA, far from diversity where it's safe, then trash the USA for being too violent, not grasping that racial diversity is the REASON for that violence?

I love how all the other loser White-majority countries have imported diversity to prove they aren't racist, only to see their rape and murder rates skyrocket as a result, haha. 

Be careful what you wish for - you might just get it!  

what use would a cannon be against someone attacking you , they only have to step a foot to one side and you will miss.

I never said the USA was too violent, 99.9% of gun owners in the states wouldn't have the bottle to shoot someone if their lives depended on it.

You are not a violent country, you are a country of shit scared pussies thinking that your guns will keep you safe.

[Matt]

The concern is more how frequently these shootings are taking place. They used to occur once every few years, but now seem to be occurring every other month. We've already seen three since last summer.

Wait, so the USA is becoming increasingly more violent as rafts of non-White people are being imported into the USA by the millions each year?

Wow.  NO SHIT?  Really?  You don't say?  Who could have predicted that one?  

So importing millions of people from third world shitholes with the highest rates of rape and violence in the world has resulted in a subsequent political disaster and diversity has DIVIDED people into separate armed camps, and more examples of people going postal are taking place?

Yep, no one saw that one coming. 

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Wait, so the USA is becoming increasingly more violent as rafts of non-White people are being imported into the USA by the millions each year?

Wow.  NO SHIT?  Really?  You don't say?  Who could have predicted that one? 

So importing millions of people from third world shitholes with the highest rates of rape and violence in the world as resulted in a subsequent political disaster and diversity has DIVIDED people into separate armed camps, and more examples of people going postal are taking place?

Shit, who could have predicted that one? 

how many people from third world shitholes shoot up schools?

[Matt]

Great post!

It will also be useful for people to learn HOW millions of innocent Europeans and Asians were murdered: starved, tortured to death, heads bashed in, throats slit, overworked and starved to death in gulags.

And people should get this: those flaming libs who want ultimate gun control are from the same cloth as the evil Bolshevik scum of the past, who love to see innocent and better people being hurt!

And let's not forget the pro-gun conservatives who portray Hitler as the ultimate gun controller when in fact the National Socialists PROMOTED responsible gun ownership and self defense and at the end of the war the Allies were astonished by the amount of guns and fencing swords the average German citizens owned!

Yep!  Exactly - Hitler promoted gun ownership.  He increased gun rights in Germany, not the opposite.  But he was a dictator very much in demand, so he didn't need to disarm his citizens.  He knew that his citizens wanted him in power.  Unlike the USSR [Jewish proxy state, administered disproportionately by Jewish Bolsheviks.  I think Jews made up something like 30% of all people in positions of leadership in the USSR, despite being under 1% of its population, but you would have to check Wiki to confirm that 30% figure].

Great post, BBSSchlemiel. 

[Matt]

how many people from third world shitholes shoot up schools?

For [I think] the third time in this thread:

Blacks and Hispanics commit 70% of all murders in the USA.  But Hispanics are lumped as White people in the perpetrator category of the FBI stats, but as Hispanics in the victim category in order to make them look more like victims, but inflate the White murder rate.  It's complete bullsh*t, and done on purpose, to make it look like Whites commit more murder in the USA than they do.  So if an ethnically Mexican American citizen commits a murder, that counts as a "White American" committing the murder.    Again, it's complete bullsh*t.

As for how many third world people specifically shoot up schools, I would say the actual reason for those school shootings are likely SSRI-related, combined with the USA turning to sh*t due to diversity, and making people become more divided.

Diversity is shit.  It just makes everyone feel like an out-group.  Even for Jews - the intellectual force behind leftism, and those who created the ideological script the West is currently being destroyed by - are being harmed by diversity at this point.  Specifically, in increased attacks of Jewish citizens in Western countries by imported Muslims.

But to answer your question - no, third world imported citizens are not the ones committing the vast majority of the school shootings.  I'm saying that it is a governmental system not listening to White people, combined likely with over-prescribing of SSRIs, that is probably what is driving White people mad.  Although on that note, Whites do not commit school shootings out of proportion to their population size.  At 65% of the American population, White people commit about 65% of school shootings, or at least, all mass shootings in general.

Although on that note, who gives a f*ck about mass shootings being committed more by White people even IF that was true - WHICH IT ISN'T - because more Black people are murdered by other Black people in Chicago EACH YEAR.

Saying that White males commit the most mass shootings is as stupid as saying White males commit the most murders in the produce sections of grocery stores on Wednesday morning - IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY ONLY COMPRISE 0.000000001% OF ALL MURDERS ANYWAY.

Hyperbole - mass shootings are probably more than 0.1% of all murders in the USA each year.

SO WHOOP-DI-FUCKING-DOO - WHITE MALES COMMIT THE MAJORITY OF 0.1% OF THE USA'S ANNUAL MURDERS.

Except that they don't even do that. 

But that doesn't stop Jewish/leftist media outlets like Salon.com from making articles whining about that.

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how many people from third world shitholes shoot up schools?

For [I think] the third time in this thread:

Blacks and Hispanics commit 70% of all murders in the USA.  But Hispanics are lumped as White people in the perpetrator category of the FBI stats, but as Hispanics in the victim category in order to make them look more like victims, but inflate the White murder rate.  It's complete bullsh*t, and done on purpose, to make it look like Whites commit more murder in the USA than they do.  So if an ethnically Mexican American citizen commits a murder, that counts as a "White American" committing the murder.    Again, it's complete bullsh*t.

As for how many third world people specifically shoot up schools, I would say the actual reason for those school shootings are likely SSRI-related, combined with the USA turning to sh*t due to diversity, and making people become more divided.

Diversity is shit.  It just makes everyone feel like an out-group.  Even for Jews - the intellectual force behind leftism, and those who created the ideological script the West is currently being destroyed by - are being harmed by diversity at this point.  Specifically, in increased attacks of Jewish citizens in Western countries by imported Muslims.

But to answer your question - no, third world imported citizens are not the ones committing the vast majority of the school shootings.  I'm saying that it is a governmental system not listening to White people, combined likely with over-prescribing of SSRIs, that is probably what is driving White people mad.  Although on that note, Whites do not commit school shootings out of proportion to their population size.  At 65% of the American population, White people commit about 65% of school shootings, or at least, all mass shootings in general.

Although on that note, who gives a f*ck about mass shootings being committed more by White people even IF that was true - WHICH IT ISN'T - because more Black people are murdered by other Black people in Chicago EACH YEAR.

Saying that White males commit the most mass shootings is as stupid as saying White males commit the most murders in the produce sections of grocery stores on Wednesday morning - IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY ONLY COMPRISE 0.000000001% OF ALL MURDERS ANYWAY.

Hyperbole - mass shootings are probably more than 0.1% of all murders in the USA each year.

SO WHOOP-DI-FUCKING-DOO - WHITE MALES COMMIT THE MAJORITY OF 0.1% OF THE USA'S ANNUAL MURDERS.

Except that they don't even do that. 

But that doesn't stop Jewish/leftist media outlets like Salon.com from making articles whining about that.

None

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[Matt]

Matt can you do some research and find out how many lives were safely defended by guns in the United States over the same period?

That's a great question, calfzilla.

To be honest, I look at guns [and nuclear weapons held by nation states] more like scarecrows - just knowing they are there to begin with deters people from committing violence.

I would have to look it up, but something like a clear majority [over 70%] of the deadliest shootings [or largest mass shootings] in recent American history took place in gun free zones.

That one that took place when The Dark Knight was playing in the theatre in 2008 - I think that theatre was declared a gun-free zone, for example.

[Matt]

HAHAHAHAHA, leftists are such dumb idiots.  "Please government - take away my rights!!  Oh, and you can have all of my guns.  What can go wrong?" 

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/10/did-colorado-shooter-single-out-cinemark-theater.html

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HAHAHAHAHA, leftists are such dumb idiots.  "Please government - take away my rights!!  Oh, and you can have all of my guns.  What can go wrong?" 

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/10/did-colorado-shooter-single-out-cinemark-theater.html

you dont strike me as a gun owner, do you actually own a gun?

[SF1900]

you dont strike me as a gun owner, do you actually own a gun?

He doesn't even live in the US.  

Matt is the type who just goes along with the crowd because it makes him feel cool.

[illuminati]

For [I think] the third time in this thread:

Blacks and Hispanics commit 70% of all murders in the USA.  But Hispanics are lumped as White people in the perpetrator category of the FBI stats, but as Hispanics in the victim category in order to make them look more like victims, but inflate the White murder rate.  It's complete bullsh*t, and done on purpose, to make it look like Whites commit more murder in the USA than they do.  So if an ethnically Mexican American citizen commits a murder, that counts as a "White American" committing the murder.    Again, it's complete bullsh*t.

As for how many third world people specifically shoot up schools, I would say the actual reason for those school shootings are likely SSRI-related, combined with the USA turning to sh*t due to diversity, and making people become more divided.

Diversity is shit.  It just makes everyone feel like an out-group.  Even for Jews - the intellectual force behind leftism, and those who created the ideological script the West is currently being destroyed by - are being harmed by diversity at this point.  Specifically, in increased attacks of Jewish citizens in Western countries by imported Muslims.

But to answer your question - no, third world imported citizens are not the ones committing the vast majority of the school shootings.  I'm saying that it is a governmental system not listening to White people, combined likely with over-prescribing of SSRIs, that is probably what is driving White people mad.  Although on that note, Whites do not commit school shootings out of proportion to their population size.  At 65% of the American population, White people commit about 65% of school shootings, or at least, all mass shootings in general.

Although on that note, who gives a f*ck about mass shootings being committed more by White people even IF that was true - WHICH IT ISN'T - because more Black people are murdered by other Black people in Chicago EACH YEAR.

Saying that White males commit the most mass shootings is as stupid as saying White males commit the most murders in the produce sections of grocery stores on Wednesday morning - IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY ONLY COMPRISE 0.000000001% OF ALL MURDERS ANYWAY.

Hyperbole - mass shootings are probably more than 0.1% of all murders in the USA each year.

SO WHOOP-DI-FUCKING-DOO - WHITE MALES COMMIT THE MAJORITY OF 0.1% OF THE USA'S ANNUAL MURDERS.

Except that they don't even do that. 

But that doesn't stop Jewish/leftist media outlets like Salon.com from making articles whining about that.

Terrible that these mass shootings are even occurring & it seems more frequently
As you point out though in grand scheme of total shootings in America they are a tiny
Percentage of deaths.
Especially compared to the huge number of shooting committed by a minority group
IE Blacks - the media & it appears many others have conviniently forgot at about
That Huge Elephant in the Room & Are Concentrating on the ant on the floor.

All the shootings going on are Wrong and it is a Massive issue
Will banning guns solve it - yes it will help prevent a few of them,
Only those who want to have a gun & shoot people will still get them.

Guns are banned here in the uk That doesn’t result in zero shootings
The Blacks Mainly Have no problem getting guns & shooting each other

In America the shootings issue is going to be a very tough nut to crack

[Matt]

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No, it's not none.  It's not zero.  Third world immigrants in ALL cases and in ALL forms of crime [except those requiring intelligence, such as financial fraud] commit disproportionately high levels of crime.

Mass shootings are slightly more evenly distributed but the number wasn't zero.  I don't even follow the mass shootings really, but wasn't the recent Florida one committed by someone with the last name "Cruz"?  So he was Hispanic?

But yeah, as far as mass shootings are concerned, they aren't as radically racially lopsided as murder in general.  Perhaps because it requires slightly more intelligence to actually get away with one, and anything requiring intelligence will see the participation of races with higher average intelligence.  I.e., Virginia Tech shooting of 2007 comes to mind.  Was it 37 shot there?  Not too sure on that.  I forget.  And at 6:07AM here in THUNDER BAY, CANADA, where I live, I am not searching for it now.

Anyway.

I think mass shootings are caused by SSRI prescriptions gone mad combined with a divided and unstable political climate in the USA caused by diversity, in addition to - of course - access to types of firearms that cannot be purchased in Canada and other Western nations.

That side, with 433 people dead by mass shootings in the past 68 years, you can forgive me for not being in any hurry to take away the American right to bear arms as a result of that.

Not that you and other left-wingers have the power to disarm 90 million legal gun owners in the USA anyway.  They have 300 million guns for crying out loud!  How do you intend to take away their guns when THEY have the guns and you don't?

You didn't quite think that one through, did you? 

[Matt]

He doesn't even live in the US.  

Matt is the type who just goes along with the crowd because it makes him feel cool.

Yeah, because supporting gun rights is a popular mainstream opinion. 

Are you nuts?    Where I live, probably 80% of all citizens are against guns!  I live in lily-White Canada, where people are too stupid to understand that American conservative/capitalist principles are what ALLOWS Canadian liberalism to exist in the first place!  All of what we buy here comes from American corporations for crying out loud!

And no, I don't own a gun - I live in Canada where police can come to your house at any time if you are a gun owner.  More or less.  The gun laws here suck.  And Canadians are too stupid to realize that the reason why Canada is a SAFER country than the USA is because we are a WHITER country.

More White people per-capita = safer country to live in.

More Black and Hispanic people per-capita = more violence in that country.

More hey, screw the facts right?