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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #750 on: January 26, 2023, 03:08:22 PM »
Why?  That isn't a test for being biased in favor of the truth.  A lot of people try and say being "unbiased" means you don't favor one side or the other.  That's BS.  Both "sides" are not created equal.  I hate the Republican Party, and they are full of spineless liars, but by and large they are not psychotic like the Democrat Party has become.  They're not pushing to have kids amputate their twig and berries and boobs and give them puberty blockers.  They don't say men can get pregnant.  They don't engage in massive censorship. 

What I often do is point out the chronic problems, dangers, and hypocrisy I see with liberals/progressives.  I don't need to do the same for conservatives and Republicans, because all you need to do for that is turn on or read almost any news sources.

I am a stickler for details so, warning, you will hate me for posting this little annoying fact, but the definition of bias is:
prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair.
"there was evidence of bias against foreign applicants"

In reality, all people are products of their environment and so it is only natural we have some bias... which in practice really just means we have an opinion. It would be a sad world if none of us had an opinion about anything. In that were the case we'd be not much more than amoebae.


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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #751 on: January 30, 2023, 01:51:47 PM »
I am a stickler for details so, warning, you will hate me for posting this little annoying fact, but the definition of bias is:
prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair.
"there was evidence of bias against foreign applicants"

In reality, all people are products of their environment and so it is only natural we have some bias... which in practice really just means we have an opinion. It would be a sad world if none of us had an opinion about anything. In that were the case we'd be not much more than amoebae.

You should be a stickler for the literal definition of words, as well as how people use and misuse those words. 

For example, the definition you posted includes "prejudice" and "unfair," both of which must be present if someone is biased.  But that's not how people often use "bias."  For example, I believe liberals/progressives are dangerously intolerant and censor opposing viewpoints.  That view is not the result of bias and it's not unfair, because it's an absolute fact.  But you folks will call it biased because it is directed at liberals/progressives. 

I agree people are a product of their environments, but it is possible to expose yourself to varying viewpoints and become a more informed, well rounded person.   

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« Reply #752 on: January 30, 2023, 02:55:22 PM »
You should be a stickler for the literal definition of words, as well as how people use and misuse those words. 

For example, the definition you posted includes "prejudice" and "unfair," both of which must be present if someone is biased.  But that's not how people often use "bias."  For example, I believe liberals/progressives are dangerously intolerant and censor opposing viewpoints.  That view is not the result of bias and it's not unfair, because it's an absolute fact.  But you folks will call it biased because it is directed at liberals/progressives. 

I agree people are a product of their environments, but it is possible to expose yourself to varying viewpoints and become a more informed, well rounded person.   

You posted "But you folks will call it biased... " Who are you folks? Saying this is prejudicial and unfair or at least inaccurate because you included folks who you don't know and you guess at what they and I mean, say and do.

Also, when you say, 'expose yourself', am I to take this as meaning me? You don't know what I expose myself to. Why not instead say oneself?

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« Reply #753 on: January 30, 2023, 07:46:47 PM »
You folks refers to the disproportionate number of you liberals/progressives who are disconnected from reality, don't care about the facts, don't care about the Constitution, etc.

i don't need to be more precise.  i don't care enough.  It's not like I'm on here plagiarizing stuff.   :)

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #754 on: January 30, 2023, 07:57:14 PM »
I am a stickler for details so, warning, you will hate me for posting this little annoying fact, but the definition of bias is:
prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair.
"there was evidence of bias against foreign applicants"

In reality, all people are products of their environment and so it is only natural we have some bias... which in practice really just means we have an opinion. It would be a sad world if none of us had an opinion about anything. In that were the case we'd be not much more than amoebae.

You’re not a stickler for details otherwise you would have at least known who Harmeet Dhillon was….at the least.

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« Reply #755 on: February 01, 2023, 07:43:13 PM »
You’re not a stickler for details otherwise you would have at least known who Harmeet Dhillon was….at the least.

Touché! You got me this time, Coach. ;D

I could argue that some details are more important than others, but instead I'll give you this one...

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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #756 on: February 13, 2023, 09:37:19 PM »
Former MSNBC Host Says Network Reprimanded Her for Criticizing Hillary Clinton
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« Reply #757 on: March 03, 2023, 01:38:18 PM »
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« Reply #758 on: March 08, 2023, 09:38:19 PM »
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The icing of Fox News — the ratings-leading network — would include starving the company of advertising dollars and pulling the biggest Democratic stars from the airwaves.
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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #759 on: March 13, 2023, 12:42:24 PM »
https://nypost.com/2023/03/12/the-media-ignore-democrats-in-congress-stepping-on-freedom-of-speech/

This is gross - watch the hearing, the Democrats step on free speech, and even try to bully Matt Taibbi into revealing his sources.  Plus they are rude from the get go.

Oh, and the NYT and Washington Post literally wrote not one word on it.
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Re: More Liberal Censorship
« Reply #760 on: March 23, 2023, 02:14:11 PM »
https://nypost.com/2023/03/12/the-media-ignore-democrats-in-congress-stepping-on-freedom-of-speech/

This is gross - watch the hearing, the Democrats step on free speech, and even try to bully Matt Taibbi into revealing his sources.  Plus they are rude from the get go.

Oh, and the NYT and Washington Post literally wrote not one word on it.

I watched a good portion of it.  Absolutely disgusting. 

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« Reply #761 on: March 23, 2023, 02:14:22 PM »
Conservative judge abused at Stanford Law School says protesters told him they hoped his daughters would be RAPED, as it's revealed they were angry at him for misgendering transgender pedophile
Fifth Circuit Judge Stuart Kyle Duncan, 51, was asked to give a speech at Stanford, but students and the DEI associate dean interrupted his speech
Associate Dean Tirien Steinbach asked to speak to students after Duncan requested an administrator and then gave a six-minute prepared speech
Stanford leaders later apologized to him, but students have since protested against the apology 
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« Reply #762 on: March 23, 2023, 02:16:15 PM »
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« Reply #763 on: March 29, 2023, 09:45:30 PM »
Washington & Lee Professors Join Students in Seeking to Ban Conservative Speaker
March 28, 2023

Over 600 people have signed on to a petition calling for conservative commentator Matt Walsh to be banned from speaking at Washington and Lee University on March 30. That is hardly surprising given the regular cancel campaign on our campuses. However, what was striking was how many faculty signed the petition, including a number of law professors, despite its anti-free speech sentiments. The petition notably does not even contain the customary homage to free speech before eviscerating its underlying premise. Indeed, free speech is not mentioned even once. Instead, the petition denounces the university for allowing “one-sided platforms for harmful ideologies” to be held on campus. Notably, these faculty do not object to speakers holding opposing views from being one-sided. Indeed, the letter later objects to other speakers who engage in “both-sideism” on panels. The petition also states:

“While W&L’s Facility Use Policy states that allowing an event on campus does not imply endorsement of the views shared at the event, the school cannot escape responsibility for providing a platform for one-sided, non-academic, harmful rhetoric.”

Again, the objection only raises additional questions. Have these faculty members also objected to “non-academic” speakers from the left or insisted that such speakers have opposing views stated at the event? Have they objected to controversial, one-sided speakers from the left?

A couple years ago, Ibram X. Kendi spoke at the university without opposition from these faculty over his one-sided and controversial views. Kendi, the director of the Center for Antiracist Research at Boston University, previously attacked Justice Amy Coney Barrett over her adoption of two Haitian children and suggested that it raised the image of a “white colonizer.” He suggested that the children were little more than props for their mother. In addition to calling for “defunding the police” and limiting free speech, Kendi insists that “the only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination.” Kendi also maintains that “The life of racism cannot be separated from the life of capitalism…In order to truly be antiracist, you also have to truly be anti-capitalist.”

The fact is that I would not oppose Kendi coming to my campus or insist that he should not be allowed to give a “one-sided” presentation. His views are provocative and controversial, but they are precisely the type of diversity of viewpoints that higher education should foster.

Matt Walsh is clearly a lightening rod for controversy and has described himself as a “transphobe.” I disagree with Walsh but many do not. The issue is whether universities should censor such views based on what faculty may consider “harmful.” That is particularly chilling when faculty are applying such a clearly selective standard for those speakers who hold opposing views.

The “speech-as-harmful” rationale is now a virtual mantra on our campuses. This dangerous trend in academia is discussed in my law review article, Jonathan Turley, “Harm and Hegemony: The Decline of Free Speech in the United States”, Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy.

The resulting viewpoint intolerance has produced a chilling effect on our campuses that has both faculty and students engaging in self-censorship. The current generation of the faculty and administrators are destroying the diversity of thought that sustains higher education.

This petition to bar any speaker viewed as supporting a “hateful ideology” would only reinforce what has become an academic echo chamber in higher education. Yet, the petition has the support of law professors and other faculty members who openly seek the barring of opposing views while, fittingly, omitting even a reference to free speech.

Below are the faculty in order of their signing. These are only those who listed their academic titles on the petition. They stretch across different disciplines and departments. I have removed the large number of staff members.

Brenna Womer, English Professor

Alan M. Trammell, Law Professor

Chelsea Fisher, Environmental Studies Professor

Avvirin Gray, Professor of English

Michael Berlin, Visiting Assistant Professor of English

Carliss Chatman, Law Professor

Diego Millan, Assistant Professor of English and Africana Studies

Ellen Mayock, Ernest Williams II Professor of Romance Languages

Jessica Wager, Institutional History

Lubabah Chwdhury, Professor of English and Women, Gender and Sexuality Studies

Nneka Dennie, Assistant Professor of History and Africana Studies

Kary Smout, English Professor

Domnica Radulescu, The Edwin A. Morris Professor of Comparative Literature

Jane Harrington, Visiting Assistant Professor of English

Romina Green Rioja, Assistant Professor of Latin American History

Mia Brett, VAP of African American History

Allison Weiss, Law Professor

Joan M. Shaughnessy, Roger D. Groot Professor of Law

Robert T. Danforth, John Lucian Smith, Jr. Memorial Professor of Law

Kristina Roney, Assistant Professor of French

Karen Woody, Law Professor

Beth Staples, English Professor

Mattie Clear, Archivist and Assistant Professor

Alison Bell ‘91, Professor of Anthropology

Keri Gould, Law Professor

Franklin Sammons, VAP History

Zoila Ponce de León, Assistant Professor of Politics

Jon Eastwood, Professor of Sociology

Elizabeth Belmont, Law Professor

Matthew F. Tuchler, Professor of Chemistry

Lesley Wheeler, English Professor

Carla Laroche, Law Professor

Bobby Jones’14 Assistant Professor / Football Coach

Russell Miller, J.B. Stombock Professor of Law

Mikki Brock, Associate Professor of History

Henryatta Ballah- Assistant Professor of History and Africana Studies

Benjamin G. Davis, Visiting Professor of Law

Jill Fraley, Professor of Law

Chris Gavaler, Associate Professor of English

Josh Fairfield, Law Professor

Chris Seaman, Professor of Law

Mary Z. Natkin, ‘85L, Emeritus Professor of Law

Fernando Zapata, Ted DeLaney Postdoctoral Fellow in Philosophy

Molly Michelmore, Professor of History

Stephen P. McCormick, Associate Professor of French and Italian

Erin Ness Associate Professor of Physical Education

Shane Lynch Professor of Music and Director of Choral Activities

Margaret Anne Hinkle, Assistant Professor of Earth and Environmental Geoscience

Paul A. Gregory, Professor of Philosophy

Angela Sun, Assistant Professor of Philosophy

Emerson Lynch, Visiting Assistant Professor of Earth & Environmental Geoscience Megan Fulcher, Professor of Cognitive and Behavioral Science

Emily Filler, Assistant Professor in the Study of Judaism

Clover Archer, Director of Staniar Gallery

Heather Kolinsky, Professor of Practice W&L Law

Mohamed Kamara, Professor of Romance Languages and Africana studies

Nathaniel Goldberg, Professor & Chair of Philosophy

Holly Shablack, Assistant Professor of Cognitive and Behavioral Science

Jenefer Davies, Professor of Dance & Chair of Theatre, Dance & Film Studies

Bill Hamilton, Professor and Head of Biology

Fiona Watson, Associate Professor of Biology & Neuroscience

Helen I’Anson Perry Professor of Biology & Research Sciences, Neuroscience

Nadia Ayoub, Professor of Biology

Gregg Whitworth, Associate Professor of Biology

David Bello, Professor of History

Lawrence Hurd, Professor of Biology

Sarah Blythe, Associate Professor of Biology & Neuroscience

https://jonathanturley.org/2023/03/28/washington-lee-professors-join-students-in-seeking-to-ban-conservative-speaker/