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Ofcourse he juices.
But will he get caught after the olympics or not?!?!
DISCUSS!
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Don't you think he would have already with all the additional testing he volunteered for?
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Ofcourse he juices.
But will he get caught after the olympics or not?!?!
DISCUSS!
No, these athletes have world class doctors. They know exactly what is going on with the drug testing. They can also bribe high individuals.
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I think he is clean. The reason being that he has been so heavily tested. I think he is a true champ, amazing genetics for swimming, and of course has had all the training and right mental attitude to win.
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I think he is clean. The reason being that he has been so heavily tested. I think he is a true champ, amazing genetics for swimming, and of course has had all the training and right mental attitude to win.
haha tool!
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Ofcourse he juices.
But will he get caught after the olympics or not?!?!
DISCUSS!
You need to watch BIGGER STRONGER FASTER and you will see why the OVER DRUGGED UP USA COMPETITORS are not disqualified even though the Olympic committee knows they FAILED the drug tests.
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No, these athletes have world class doctors. They know exactly what is going on with the drug testing. They can also bribe high individuals.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner.
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how the logical reasoning go here? the one that wins juices the others doesnt?
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Ofcourse he juices.
But will he get caught after the olympics or not?!?!
DISCUSS!
Jealous of the superior American Swede?
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Ofcourse he juices.
But will he get caught after the olympics or not?!?!
DISCUSS!
So you think anyone who breaks records is juicing? One thing I don't think very few undertand is that EVERYONE who is an Olympian has either has a type A personality or an amazing will to succeed. IMO, Phelps carries that just that much farther than anyone else. Like Lance Armstrong, he's been tested over and over and over again. 9 Golds and how many world records?? and you don't think he would have already been caught?
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So you think anyone who breaks records is juicing? One thing I don't think very few undertand is that EVERYONE who is an Olympian has either has a type A personality or an amazing will to succeed. IMO, Phelps carries that just that much farther than anyone else. Like Lance Armstrong, he's been tested over and over and over again. 9 Golds and how many world records?? and you don't think he would have already been caught?
He juices.
Phelps juices... Everyone does.
The thing that makes him the best is exactly what you are saying + juice.
But the real question is... "Will he get caught?!?!""
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Jealous of the superior American Swede?
No... :)
A swede, Lars Frölander took a olympic gold in swimming once :)
Guld Sydney 2000 100 meter Butterfly..
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No... :)
A swede, Lars Frölander took a olympic gold in swimming once :)
Guld Sydney 2000 100 meter Butterfly..
Phelps took the gold 9 times.
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He juices.
Phelps juices... Everyone does.
The thing that makes him the best is exactly what you are saying + juice.
But the real question is... "Will he get caught?!?!""
Do you have any proof, or is this just speculation from your bedroom in Sweden? So, if "everyone" juices, then what difference does it make. He's still obviously 100x better than everyone else then, considering they're all juiced and back on the same playing field. ::)
Guy is the best Olympian in history. 'Nuf said.
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Do you have any proof, or is this just speculation from your bedroom in Sweden? So, if "everyone" juices, then what difference does it make. He's still obviously 100x better than everyone else then, considering they're all juiced and back on the same playing field. ::)Guy is the best Olympian in history. 'Nuf said.
Great point!
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Ofcourse he juices.
But will he get caught after the olympics or not?!?!
DISCUSS!
No, he's like Lance Armstrong...America needs them to be heroes ;)
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An amazing athlete imo, some people are born to do certain things.
Look at thorpedo, his stature was just meant for swimming.
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Do you have any proof, or is this just speculation from your bedroom in Sweden? So, if "everyone" juices, then what difference does it make. He's still obviously 100x better than everyone else then, considering they're all juiced and back on the same playing field. ::)
Guy is the best Olympian in history. 'Nuf said.
Yes I didnt say anything else did I?
But will ge get CAUGHT!!
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Yes I didnt say anything else did I?
But will ge get CAUGHT!!
No. Because he's clean
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Yes I didnt say anything else did I?
But will ge get CAUGHT!!
I doubt it. He would have to be juiced for that to happen.
The guy eats, sleeps and breathes swimming. Lives by himself in Ann Arbor and spends his entire day eating, training or sleeping with a few other Americans in Club Wolverine.
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i wish he juiced imagine how fast he would be then !!!
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They had his regimine on yesterday, required to eat a minimum of 8-10,000 calories perday. Spend 5 hours a day in the pool about an hour or so in the weight room and sleep.
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he eats twice that of a bodybuilder
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he eats twice that of a bodybuilder
and burns 10x as much.
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I doubt it. He would have to be juiced for that to happen.
The guy eats, sleeps and breathes swimming. Lives by himself in Ann Arbor and spends his entire day eating, training or sleeping with a few other Americans in Club Wolverine.
Coach and BF are exactly right. You can't knock the amount of training he does. Before anyone says anything about the calories, he does take in quite a few in liquid form.
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I doubt it. He would have to be juiced for that to happen.
The guy eats, sleeps and breathes swimming. Lives by himself in Ann Arbor and spends his entire day eating, training or sleeping with a few other Americans in Club Wolverine.
Perfect to juice then? Living by himself and such :)
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No doubt, people winning olympia medals are amazing physical specimins. no doubt they out-train everyone, they are driven beyond belief, and they live for this stuff. No doubt they've been doing it for their whole lives and would still be world-class athletes without drugs.
However, if you were going to pick out the random guy winning piles of gold medals, and you had to bent the rent check on whether or not his coach might adminsiter test or gh or something for recovery at some point during the year... well, smart money would be on "not natural".
Sure, it's possible that Phelps is all natural. Just not likely. It would make him the most amazing physical specimin ever - surrounded by athletes using drugs. Sure, it's possible. Statistically, not probable. Until they have a hgh test, which they don't have now, these guys will have recovery help that is absolutely undetectable. Does Phelps choose to do the right thing and avoid an undetectable drug which can help him recover faster from his 5-hour training regimens? We don't know that.
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Alot of there people probably didn´t think Lance juiced either lol.
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No doubt, people winning olympia medals are amazing physical specimins. no doubt they out-train everyone, they are driven beyond belief, and they live for this stuff. No doubt they've been doing it for their whole lives and would still be world-class athletes without drugs.
However, if you were going to pick out the random guy winning piles of gold medals, and you had to bent the rent check on whether or not his coach might adminsiter test or gh or something for recovery at some point during the year... well, smart money would be on "not natural".
Sure, it's possible that Phelps is all natural. Just not likely. It would make him the most amazing physical specimin ever - surrounded by athletes using drugs. Sure, it's possible. Statistically, not probable. Until they have a hgh test, which they don't have now, these guys will have recovery help that is absolutely undetectable. Does Phelps choose to do the right thing and avoid an undetectable drug which can help him recover faster from his 5-hour training regimens? We don't know that.
Mark Spitz did what Phelps is doing more than 30 years ago. He didn't take drugs. Phelps is not taking any drugs. The guy is built to swim. It is all he does. His adrenalin is flowing so much for the games. He seems to be to dedicated to swimming and I just don't see him jepordizing everything he has worked so hard for.
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Mark Spitz did what Phelps is doing more than 30 years ago. He didn't take drugs. Phelps is not taking any drugs. The guy is built to swim. It is all he does. His adrenalin is flowing so much for the games. He seems to be to dedicated to swimming and I just don't see him jepordizing everything he has worked so hard for.
This can be said about everyone before they get caught..
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Mark Spitz did what Phelps is doing more than 30 years ago. He didn't take drugs. Phelps is not taking any drugs. The guy is built to swim. It is all he does. His adrenalin is flowing so much for the games. He seems to be to dedicated to swimming and I just don't see him jepordizing everything he has worked so hard for.
I love how if anyone does anything positive, they are juiced to the gills. Just another example of insecure bb fans, unable to accept that someone could do something without some sort of illegal aid. Phelps has the perfect body for swimming, and he dedicated his life to it. Sometimes, if someone is freaky good at something, and they dedicate their entire life to that endeavour, they can be the best in the world at it.
I can say with confidence that Babe Ruth was not on riods, and the same goes for Jim Brown and Ted Williams.... How where they so good at what they did? Shit, Ruth could have been BETTER at what he did, if he dropped a few pounds. Drugs are a huge part of sports, but Phelps has been an amazing swimmer since he was a kid. He is getting better as he matures. He's not on juice.
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So you think anyone who breaks records is juicing? One thing I don't think very few undertand is that EVERYONE who is an Olympian has either has a type A personality or an amazing will to succeed. IMO, Phelps carries that just that much farther than anyone else. Like Lance Armstrong, he's been tested over and over and over again. 9 Golds and how many world records?? and you don't think he would have already been caught?
well armstrong is really a bad example, since he s been on steroids to cure his cancer.
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sounds like a bunch of jealousy from a bunch of dudes whose most athletic feat is walking out to get the mail. ::)
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I love how if anyone does anything positive, they are juiced to the gills. Just another example of insecure bb fans, unable to accept that someone could do something without some sort of illegal aid. Phelps has the perfect body for swimming, and he dedicated his life to it. Sometimes, if someone is freaky good at something, and they dedicate their entire life to that endeavour, they can be the best in the world at it.
lol. isn´t maby 7 olympic golds a little bit if a understatement? "Anything positive" lol.
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No doubt hes the greatest swimmer of all time.
But hes juicing dat juice buddy.
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Ofcourse he juices.
But will he get caught after the olympics or not?!?!
DISCUSS!
another pissed off imigrant that hates the usa
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another pissed off imigrant that hates the usa
read above
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read above
bullshit his not on juice just pure perfection jealous bastard you probably cant swim can you swede
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A lot of hating going on here. ::)
Phelps has excellent genetics for swimming. They were showing him swimming with an underwater camera, and it shows you how extremely flexible his body is. Very smooth through the water. So he has the awesome genetics for swimming to go along with a great work ethic.
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he just started weight training a couple of years ago. he's not doing anything except training, and eating right
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A lot of hating going on here. ::)
Phelps has excellent genetics for swimming. They were showing him swimming with an underwater camera, and it shows you how extremely flexible his body is. Very smooth through the water. So he has the awesome genetics for swimming to go along with a great work ethic. + juice
Exactly!
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Exactly!
swede why hate if anything you should hate the way you look its pretty pathetic
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swede why hate if anything you should hate the way you look its pretty pathetic
One would think you would probably get sick of being pathetic all the time.
But it probably runs in your family.
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One would think you would probably get sick of being pathetic all the time.
But it probably runs in your family.
wow that was funny did someone say that already so hows md treating you
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wow that was funny did someone say that already so hows md treating you
But you are persistant even though you fail miserably..
That probably describes why your not killing yourself? =)
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But you are persistant even though you fail miserably..
That probably describes why your not killing yourself? =)
wow hows it feel to get banned from md for being gay
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Great for Phelps and he is an amazing athlete but I always envisioned the top Olympian to be a decathlon champion or track and field. More of an all around athlete.
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wow hows it feel to get banned from md for being gay
A comeback champion are you?
::) ::)
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You guys are pathetic.
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A comeback champion are you?
::) ::)
wow strong come back
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I don't think any of us can claim to KNOW whether a guy smashing world records and winning medals is on any kind of assistance or not.
I keep hearing "he works so hard, he eat so well..", but so do most people at that level.
I'd be wrong to say I KNOW the guy is on gas, and you'd be wrong to claim to KNOW he's natural.
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You need to watch BIGGER STRONGER FASTER and you will see why the OVER DRUGGED UP USA COMPETITORS are not disqualified even though the Olympic committee knows they FAILED the drug tests.
yes! i mean that is the holy grail of competitive sports with regards to doping after all. you cant be an expert w/out watching that dvd..simply cant.
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I can say with confidence that Babe Ruth was not on riods, and the same goes for Jim Brown and Ted Williams
Terrible example, picking eras where nobody was using, or hardly anyone, now THE MAJORITY are using, you have to use to even keep level.
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There's a little bit of everything in this thread.
You've got the same broken records who refuse to accept that anyone can get anywhere in sports without juicing.
You've got the conspiracy theorists who say he's pretty much bought off all of his doctors and the entire IOC doping watchdog.
And finally you've got the people who say he's not a real athlete because he's just a swimmer and doesn't run fast or tackle people.
Pretty well rounded thread!
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It would make him the most amazing physical specimin ever - surrounded by athletes using drugs. Sure, it's possible. Statistically, not probable. Until they have a hgh test, which they don't have now, these guys will have recovery help that is absolutely undetectable. Does Phelps choose to do the right thing and avoid an undetectable drug which can help him recover faster from his 5-hour training regimens? We don't know that.
every Olympics there is an athlete that seems to sweep up medals, if it was so probable and such common knowledge that he/she was on drugs opposing countries take action. there is no conspiracy in which countires allow otheres to sweep medals in todays Olympics. China would not allow Phleps to dominate the events if it was common knowledge that was was on something, they like other countries would be drooling at the mouth to expose the reasons for his dominance over their athletes. furthermore whomever is supplying the substance would have so much leverage over the athletes and the sport for the information they have that could destroy the sport. just my opinion though..
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is it me or is that dude a stoner ...
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Look at thorpedo, his stature was just meant for swimming.
Alain Bernard has the perfect swimmer body.
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We have had decades with assisted/doped athletes. The whole DDR was juiced to the gills, especially the swimmers. Every record was broken at that time by the juiced athletes.
Now with so much more knowledge about juicing and doping some guy comes along and breaks every record. You must very ignorant not to recognize he is assisted, too.
Take Lance Armstrong. He somehow managed to survive every doping accusation and even the positive EPO tests with his blood. Now it is clear that everyone on the tour the France is/was juiced. But the one man that has won the tour more times than everyone - with one ball and normally half the testosterone? No - he must have a very great work ethic! Oh boy...
Wake up - it is everywhere. Every celebrity is chemically enhanced and every athlete is, too.. Just accept it.
These guys and girls are AMAZING - but also juiced...
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and burns 10x as much.
DUE TO HIS DRUGS OF CHOICE.......
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Let's assume he is using drugs. I am sure that he has access to the same types of drugs as anyone else in the Olympics.
He is still, drugs or not, a phenom!!
I think anyone who has aspirations of being an Olympic or Pro athlete, is aware that at some point in their career, they will, or must, consider drugs as a way to be competitive.
This is no shocker to anyone on this level. Drugs are just ONE part of the equation. They are very important, as in every PART of the equation. Take just one part of the equation out, such as diet, cardio, drugs, sleep, training, genetics. etc. and you will not have the same result. The Athlete that can put all of these together in the BEST way, is a champion. Simple. Don't make it bigger than it is.
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DUE TO HIS DRUGS OF CHOICE.......
Hahahaha.........yeah genius, it has nothing to do with the 5 hours a day of swimming ::)
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just as a note, when that 40 year old chick was swimming, they said they take blood samples randomly during the olympics and freeze them. their blood is tested later for chemicals they have no test for (like gh). if they fail then, their medals are stripped.
also, phelps said they tested him for doping a few times already. at any given morning of the olympics, they call a few of them (including phelps) to have their blood drawn for testing / freezing.
so if he's passing now, doesn't mean he's passing forever.
or...the IOC will just look the other way.
but for now, he's definitely clean.
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hope he gets busted soon, that overhyped "athlete"
yeah if the heavyweight boxer could box in everyweight class he could get 8 times gold too... ::) does that make him the best athlete ever? NO!
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The media's sterotyping of steroids/GH etc. has fooled so many. So many-even on here-believe that these drugs are used to build muscle and that if you don't have muscle you must be clean.
When Ronnie won his first Olympia he'd been training 20 years. He said he was natural. Did anyone here believe him? All those years of eating and training consistently but no, because he has muscle, it must just be drugs.
They are all using. Each of them know this. The times they give blood for future tests is when they are off cycle, you think they'll give their blood when they are juiced up?
Look at it another way. We all know people who train in the gym and juice, and still look like rubbish. Then there are guys who naturally can build a very good physique. But the freaks in our sport are the ones that have the natural genetics and still juice on top of it.
That's what the olympics is. The best guys are still the best guys. They're just getting better times, just like in bodybuilding where it's pushed to get bigger and bigger, these guys are pushed to keep breaking the records.
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He juices.
Phelps juices... Everyone does.
The thing that makes him the best is exactly what you are saying + juice.
But the real question is... "Will he get caught?!?!""
Cynical but unfortunately likely true
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how do you know and what proof do you have that he juices?! there was an article in my local paper before the olympics started of 31 athletes that were tested for roids and disqualifid from competing because of juicing. NONE OF THEM WERE AMERICAN! HOWEVER, THE ENTIRE BULGARIAN WEIGHTLIFTING TEAM WAS DISQUALIFIED. i think phelps is just a gifted athlete with tremendous genetics for his age. i think he's cool, and i back him up all the way! i ense jealousy cause the american are kicking ass in gold medals! 8)
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how do you know and what proof do you have that he juices?! there was an article in my local paper before the olympics started of 31 athletes that were tested for roids and disqualifid from competing because of juicing. NONE OF THEM WERE AMERICAN! HOWEVER, THE ENTIRE BULGARIAN WEIGHTLIFTING TEAM WAS DISQUALIFIED. i think phelps is just a gifted athlete with tremendous genetics for his age. i think he's cool, and i back him up all the way! i ense jealousy cause the american are kicking ass in gold medals! 8)
How do they nail the HGH?
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Alain Bernard has the perfect swimmer body.
Jason Lezak must be better than. Fag.
Phelps has a long ass torso, short legs, wingspan of like 7 ft at a height of 6'4", double jointed knees, and size 14 feet. I'd say he owns Bernard.
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I think he is clean. The reason being that he has been so heavily tested. I think he is a true champ, amazing genetics for swimming, and of course has had all the training and right mental attitude to win.
And the right swimsuit...
http://swimming.about.com/od/swimsuits/a/FastskinFSPRO.htm (http://swimming.about.com/od/swimsuits/a/FastskinFSPRO.htm)
Phelps and the other swimmers wouldn't be breaking the world records fast and furious without this new Nike swimsuit.
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Jason Lezak must be better than. Fag.
Phelps has a long ass torso, short legs, wingspan of like 7 ft at a height of 6'4", double jointed knees, and size 14 feet. I'd say he owns Bernard.
Bernard owns Phelps. He's taller with ultra small feet and the widest shoulders/lats in swimming.
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Bernard owns Phelps. He's taller with ultra small feet and the widest shoulders/lats in swimming.
Is that why Bernard was the reason the French lost the 4x100 finals while Phelps just tied the record for most gold medals ever and will probably win eight in these games alone?
Bernard sucks. He's not even the 100 free record holder any more to boot. :D
It's good to see that the French inability to win anything spans everything from sports to war.
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Bernard owns Phelps. He's taller with ultra small feet and the widest shoulders/lats in swimming.
Lol, Phelps is richer, more popular, and actually has world records. I think Phelps can live with being an inch shorter.
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Mark Spitz did what Phelps is doing more than 30 years ago. He didn't take drugs. Phelps is not taking any drugs. The guy is built to swim. It is all he does. His adrenalin is flowing so much for the games. He seems to be to dedicated to swimming and I just don't see him jepordizing everything he has worked so hard for.
someone who is up there in recent times and nearly as good., Ian Thorpe. Had some questionable tests last year for high test levels. he was australias golden boy and nobody thought he juiced. just cause he has a sqeeky clean image, doesnt mean he doesnt. He is obviously highly talented moreso than anyone else- but clean, I highly doubt it
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I love how if anyone does anything positive, they are juiced to the gills. Just another example of insecure bb fans, unable to accept that someone could do something without some sort of illegal aid. Phelps has the perfect body for swimming, and he dedicated his life to it. Sometimes, if someone is freaky good at something, and they dedicate their entire life to that endeavour, they can be the best in the world at it.
I can say with confidence that Babe Ruth was not on riods, and the same goes for Jim Brown and Ted Williams.... How where they so good at what they did? Shit, Ruth could have been BETTER at what he did, if he dropped a few pounds. Drugs are a huge part of sports, but Phelps has been an amazing swimmer since he was a kid. He is getting better as he matures. He's not on juice.
bump, the kid is just lean. physically he's not anything out of the norm. however what he can do is crazy because he dedicates his life to it. i hate to see any of you douche bags in the gym anyone with even an ounce of muscle is on juice, I can imagine how you all must give up if you dont look like ronnie or jay in 12 weeks. get a life losers the kid is a swimmer lean with about 14 inch arms
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I doubt it. He would have to be juiced for that to happen.
The guy eats, sleeps and breathes swimming. Lives by himself in Ann Arbor and spends his entire day eating, training or sleeping with a few other Americans in Club Wolverine.
I heard on the radio today from a bartender in Ann Arbor who says he has his own beer pong table at her bar blocked off from the rest of the place and the guy is quite the drinker. Not sure if it's true or not, but more power to him if he can tie one on once in a while and still be far and away the best in the world at what he does.
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Yes - the word is that he does like a drink or two once in a while and good him.
I have not met anyone who has ever provided any proof that he is juiced to his gills. I think he's done it clean. Se my earlier post - he's been tested too regularly to be able to do any juicing, let alone be juiced to his gills.
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fellas such as this swimmer make gh15 the god it is,,,if you friends new a from b you would kow that every swimmer at this level is on bunch loads of amphetamines,,duretics a must!! and in most cases growth at low dose and epo in particular method,,the drug oxandrolone/halotestin are favorites among swimmers in low dose to create agressivness and over all work well with growth for purpose of endurance and strength ,,the masking agents are wine as in alchohol and blood pressure meds that are perfectly legal and used by al swimmers
swimmers are the bigger group hormonized individuals,,they just go for endurance and strength ,,the swimmer who brokek those records is american and was raised on hormones ,,thats lal he knows,,this is marion johns all over again only white version ,,this kid is generation hormone with the ability to get the hormones effective due to natural talent in the pool
many friends here have no clue ,,,no wonder retabolil bought a 500k house in russia while being a peasant in the business of hormones,,,you friend have no clue to whats going on around you,,better go play checkers
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fellas such as this swimmer make gh15 the god it is,,,if you friends new a from b you would kow that every swimmer at this level is on bunch loads of amphetamines,,duretics a must!! and in most cases growth at low dose and epo in particular method,,the drug oxandrolone/halotestin are favorites among swimmers in low dose to create agressivness and over all work well with growth for purpose of endurance and strength ,,the masking agents are wine as in alchohol and blood pressure meds that are perfectly legal and used by al swimmers
swimmers are the bigger group hormonized individuals,,they just go for endurance and strength ,,the swimmer who brokek those records is american and was raised on hormones ,,thats lal he knows,,this is marion johns all over again only white version ,,this kid is generation hormone with the ability to get the hormones effective due to natural talent in the pool
many friends here have no clue ,,,no wonder retabolil bought a 500k house in russia while being a peasant in the business of hormones,,,you friend have no clue to whats going on around you,,better go play checkers
does not sound like a sound investment
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don't understand all the fuss about him
it's not like he's participating in the main event
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question to gh15:
in german tv yesterday was a report about a mysterious substance right out of pharmaceutical test stage that prevents muscular exhaustion so the swimmers are able to hold their max speed for 15-30 sec longer. (equals improvement of world record 1-3 sec depending on distance)
Any idea what substance is mentioned?
(no testing method available)
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don't understand all the fuss about him
it's not like he's participating in the main event
and he hasnt the "superstar look"
more kinde of a Downy aka Trisomie 21
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and he hasnt the "superstar look"
more kinde of a Downy aka Trisomie 21
only 1 event counts, 100 m freestyle
the rest is fluff
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GH15 - I agree, in the past, EPO was being used more and more by swimmers. I am sure some still use GH. And yes, steriods were used in the past, first very commonly by the European swimmers, and more recently by the Chinese. And perhaps some of the endurance swimmers are blood doping. But for Phelps, I believe he is clean. How do you explain that he has never tested positive? Or do you think he is just using HG at low and undectable levels?
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bump, the kid is just lean. physically he's not anything out of the norm. however what he can do is crazy because he dedicates his life to it. i hate to see any of you douche bags in the gym anyone with even an ounce of muscle is on juice, I can imagine how you all must give up if you dont look like ronnie or jay in 12 weeks. get a life losers the kid is a swimmer lean with about 14 inch arms
LOL yeah i know, why is everyone saying he is on juice?? Dude is skinny but defined tons of kids running around with that look. MP is revved up because he is super talented and its the freeking olympics!! Im sure he has trained many years for this and is being aggressive and going after it hard, does not mean he is on steroids.
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LOL yeah i know, why is everyone saying he is on juice?? Dude is skinny but defined tons of kids running around with that look. MP is revved up because he is super talented and its the freeking olympics!! Im sure he has trained many years for this and is being aggressive and going after it hard, does not mean he is on steroids.
you dont think Any of the guys on the tour de france is on roids either because they are skinny??
::) ::) ::)
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fellas such as this swimmer make gh15 the god it is,,,if you friends new a from b you would kow that every swimmer at this level is on bunch loads of amphetamines,,duretics a must!! and in most cases growth at low dose and epo in particular method,,the drug oxandrolone/halotestin are favorites among swimmers in low dose to create agressivness and over all work well with growth for purpose of endurance and strength ,,the masking agents are wine as in alchohol and blood pressure meds that are perfectly legal and used by al swimmers
swimmers are the bigger group hormonized individuals,,they just go for endurance and strength ,,the swimmer who brokek those records is american and was raised on hormones ,,thats lal he knows,,this is marion johns all over again only white version ,,this kid is generation hormone with the ability to get the hormones effective due to natural talent in the pool
many friends here have no clue ,,,no wonder retabolil bought a 500k house in russia while being a peasant in the business of hormones,,,you friend have no clue to whats going on around you,,better go play checkers
My friend swam open water at an international level and she would say you are full of shit.
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only 1 event counts, 100 m freestyle
the rest is fluff
Yeah, GO ALAIN BERNARD !!!
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I heard on the radio today from a bartender in Ann Arbor who says he has his own beer pong table at her bar blocked off from the rest of the place and the guy is quite the drinker. Not sure if it's true or not, but more power to him if he can tie one on once in a while and still be far and away the best in the world at what he does.
Well, Arnold would eat a whole pie prior to a show, so....
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GH15 - I agree, in the past, EPO was being used more and more by swimmers. I am sure some still use GH. And yes, steriods were used in the past, first very commonly by the European swimmers, and more recently by the Chinese. And perhaps some of the endurance swimmers are blood doping. But for Phelps, I believe he is clean. How do you explain that he has never tested positive? Or do you think he is just using HG at low and undectable levels?
Ever heard of masking agents and designer roids? it's not too hard nowadays to modify some substances.
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the guy is already pushing one or two seconds ahead of most world record (which are all his anyways)
now if he's natural...imagine just how great he would be with juice. He'd probably be ahead of the next swimmer by 10+ seconds
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It is nice to see that at one time, long, long ago....things were as they seemed. It is nice to see people who still have, or at one time had that trust.
Being naive is not always a bad thing....I guess.
Maybe I am wrong...Besides....Why would an Olympic swimmer who above all else, has been built up and expected to perform at a certain level, in front of the whole world, use "supplementation" that falls in the gray area...
If it can't be tested, then why is it wrong? If it can't be tested, then he must be clean!
Seriously, blowing world records out by SECONDS!!!!, against a field of drug users!! Did training get that much better???? Come on......reality hurts sometimes.
Just expect everyone to be on drugs at this level. Then you can truly sit back and enjoy the show.
Regardless, it is amazing to watch. Drugs are not that big of a deal when you accept them as part of the regimen.
Like taking a birth control pill, or an Advil. Nothing more, but the stigma associated with "STEROID"
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sounds like a bunch of jealousy from a bunch of dudes whose most athletic feat is walking out to get the mail. ::)
Agreed The training, the new Nike suits plus the bigger pool(supposedly this helps displace water better and create faster times)
are the reasons for these great performances.
After the track and field discgraces we've had what athlete would risk the embarrassment of getting caught juicing?
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the guy is already pushing one or two seconds ahead of most world record (which are all his anyways)
now if he's natural...imagine just how great he would be with juice. He'd probably be ahead of the next swimmer by 10+ seconds
This is a good statement. For the guys who think he is on roids that would mean just about the entire field are on roids cause he is not beating them by more than a second. A few guys actually broke the old WR in that one event.
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Agreed The training, the new Nike suits plus the bigger pool(supposedly this helps displace water better and create faster times)
are the reasons for these great performances.
After the track and field discgraces we've had what athlete would risk the embarrassment of getting caught juicing?
Or to flip it.....
Who would want to embarass themselves by letting down coaches, teamates, family, friends, and the ENTIRE USA down?
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This is a good statement. For the guys who think he is on roids that would mean just about the entire field are on roids cause he is not beating them by more than a second. A few guys actually broke the old WR in that one event.
EXACTLY. Is it really hard to believe that most in the competitive range of Phelps are on something.
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fellas such as this swimmer make gh15 the god it is,,,if you friends new a from b you would kow that every swimmer at this level is on bunch loads of amphetamines,,duretics a must!! and in most cases growth at low dose and epo in particular method,,the drug oxandrolone/halotestin are favorites among swimmers in low dose to create agressivness and over all work well with growth for purpose of endurance and strength ,,the masking agents are wine as in alchohol and blood pressure meds that are perfectly legal and used by al swimmers
swimmers are the bigger group hormonized individuals,,they just go for endurance and strength ,,the swimmer who brokek those records is american and was raised on hormones ,,thats lal he knows,,this is marion johns all over again only white version ,,this kid is generation hormone with the ability to get the hormones effective due to natural talent in the pool
many friends here have no clue ,,,no wonder retabolil bought a 500k house in russia while being a peasant in the business of hormones,,,you friend have no clue to whats going on around you,,better go play checkers
I disagree 1000000000000%. They test for amphetamines before anything else, even energy drinks are forbiddin. As for being on gear and GH, the ones you listed are the ones easiest detectable and despite the "there's no test for GH" thing..........yes there is. You make it sound as if this kid is all drugs and all he has to do is tread water.
With the amount of training this kid does (or any olympic athlete) the CNS stimulation alone is almost enough to keep a person jacked for hours even after the workout. Stimulants might be work for the first hour or two but hitting a wall and not being able to perform is far worse. IMO, if he was using stimulants (a "bunch load" as you put it) he would NOT be breaking records or winning Golds. Stims suck the life out of you after a while. In short, it would be TOTALLY counter productive in his sport.
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they studied the techniques & skill of dolphins and perfected the liquid science...you drug addicts are too much. not everybody uses drugs.
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I disagree 1000000000000%. They test for amphetamines before anything else, even energy drinks are forbiddin. As for being on gear and GH, the ones you listed are the ones easiest detectable and despite the "there's no test for GH" thing..........yes there is. You make it sound as if this kid is all drugs and all he has to do is tread water.
With the amount of training this kid does (or any olympic athlete) the CNS stimulation alone is almost enough to keep a person jacked for hours even after the workout. Stimulants might be work for the first hour or two but hitting a wall and not being able to perform is far worse. IMO, if he was using stimulants (a "bunch load" as you put it) he would NOT be breaking records or winning Golds. Stims suck the life out of you after a while. In short, it would be TOTALLY counter productive in his sport.
i agree with that part too, plus you'd notice it .. he wouldnt recover at all.. he'd be dead after being up for 48 hours swimming if he was jacked on amphets .. but im skeptical about natural status still
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Takes in 12K Calories a day and not anything healthy
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08132008/news/nationalnews/phelps_pig_secret__hes_boy_gorge_124248.htm
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Takes in 12K Calories a day and not anything healthy
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08132008/news/nationalnews/phelps_pig_secret__hes_boy_gorge_124248.htm
He's 23, plus with the work he puts in it wouldn't effect him one single bit. The more he eats, the more he burns.........like a flipping furnace.
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Gh,
Now you are making me think you really are a gimmick account. No one, and absolutely no one, at this level uses amphetamines. They show up like fireworks on the fourth of July in any drug test. Ever since the death of British cyclist Tommy Simpson years ago in the Tour de France, testing for amphetamines is the first test they do in a drug screen. They can get down to ppb levels.
Are you just screwing with us?
fellas such as this swimmer make gh15 the god it is,,,if you friends new a from b you would kow that every swimmer at this level is on bunch loads of amphetamines,,duretics a must!! and in most cases growth at low dose and epo in particular method,,the drug oxandrolone/halotestin are favorites among swimmers in low dose to create agressivness and over all work well with growth for purpose of endurance and strength ,,the masking agents are wine as in alchohol and blood pressure meds that are perfectly legal and used by al swimmers
swimmers are the bigger group hormonized individuals,,they just go for endurance and strength ,,the swimmer who brokek those records is american and was raised on hormones ,,thats lal he knows,,this is marion johns all over again only white version ,,this kid is generation hormone with the ability to get the hormones effective due to natural talent in the pool
many friends here have no clue ,,,no wonder retabolil bought a 500k house in russia while being a peasant in the business of hormones,,,you friend have no clue to whats going on around you,,better go play checkers
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I'm sure one day of training the way Phelps trains burns more calories than an entire week of training of a pro BB
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I'm sure one day of training the way Phelps trains burns more calories than an entire week of training of a pro BB
Maybe you should get your fat ass in the pool then Orca.
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Maybe you should get your fat ass in the pool then Orca.
getbig classic
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Is he going to swim today correct?
Medley?
correct?
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Is he going to swim today correct?
Medley?
correct?
totally irrelevant if he swims today
the main event, the 100 m freestyle, took place this morning and he wasn't in it
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Lol.
The time Lars Frölander took Olympic gold with 4 years ago, wouldn´t even qualify him to the final at this olympics lol.
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Frolander didn't win any gold medals in Athens if I remember correctly. It was 2000.
Yeah, I that was what i meant =)
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Don't you guys listen to No Bull Radio.
Gene Doping
Phleps is not clean.
The Beef
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Don't you guys listen to No Bull Radio.
Gene Doping
Phleps is not clean.
The Beef
Not exactly a great source of info having bodybuilders and bodybuilding "gurus" speculating on the science of REAL athletes. You have to remember this is coming from people who rely on drugs instead training to make progress. Anyone from MD care to come on here and defend this? DIDN'T THINK SO!
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Not exactly a great source of info having bodybuilders and bodybuilding "gurus" speculating on the science of REAL athletes. You have to remember this is coming from people who rely on drugs instead training to make progress. Anyone from MD care to come on here and defend this? DIDN'T THINK SO!
gold
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Not exactly a great source of info having bodybuilders and bodybuilding "gurus" speculating on the science of REAL athletes. You have to remember this is coming from people who rely on drugs instead training to make progress. Anyone from MD care to come on here and defend this? DIDN'T THINK SO!
Did you rely on drugs instead of training coach?
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Did you rely on drugs instead of training coach?
No, do you?
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No, do you?
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Sometimes. :-\
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must be on something