a lot of people here have no clue...
i have seen what 15% looks like.... you can NOT see decent abs at a legit 15% fat....
i CAN see your abs...virtually all outlines of them.. even the middle one shows somewhat... you abs are very blurred because of water!
that is due to you eating like shit and drinking beer.... after a weekend of drinking i to look like shit... fades away after a couple of days... WATER!
shoulders have lines, arms as well..... lol at dumbasses calling this fat..... this is lean for a normal human being...
average % of fat for a healthy male is i believe 15% how many people do you know with decent abs?? i am talking normal people here... and adult males... i rest my case....
this is getbig bro.... if you are not 5% and 250 pounds at 5'10 you are below average overhere...
lot's of internet warriors that would kiss your ass irl lol......
Everyone carries fat differently. You can have abs at 15%, the distribution varies.
Some people just carry it all in lower abs, back, legs, arms you name it. Seen a lot of guys with upper abs who were fat as fuck in the arms, lower back et cetera.
Also waist size is always bullshit, people get thrown out because of pro's saying 30 and shit.
No pro is anywhere near that, too much lower back thickness, too much solid abdominal mass from GH.
I have a 28 inch waist at 6'1 and the only pro i can remember looking like it was truly below 30 is Buchanan. Someone like Cutler is prob 45 when cut lol. Got to remember the taper gets more pronounced because of the upperbody mass.
Irish Dave is not 36, no way.