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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: mazfit on May 04, 2015, 03:22:50 PM
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So guys you all know that I had a lump
Well it turned green and into a huge abcess
Went hospital got it drained and now have a huge open wound
What's worse second day in hospital it bled uncontrollable and I almost blednto death
I had a blood transfusion and spent 8 days in hospital
I now have a a vacume attached to the wound am on codeine round the clock for the pain
No training for 3 months. - already look like a normal person had no gear for 5 weeks.
Lost 2 stone already
Lesson - always swabb and don't jab 5ml in one go your asking for trouble
Going forward , ,I'm going to use peptides to help healing
Then probably grow very slow and lean after recovery
Really put me off high doses tbh
Dr also said my kidneys and liver where that of a 50 year old,
Still hasn't put me off gear though , just going to be more sensibken
I'm more pissed that all winter ivengrown inton 235lb ready tonlean down
To a solid ,220 - and this has fuked everything
Yes it Fuking hurts and I'm attached to a tube and vacume all day
Look up VAC therapy that's what I'm on
Now someone cheer me up n say muscle memory exists and I'll be back to 235 in no time lol
Someone help me with a plan for when in recover /.... Bulk? Lean..... Or recomp
Never had time off or an injury before
Possibly the only positive this was the only way I was gna have time off aas
I could go into mad depression
Going from a freak,, complimented talked about wherever I went in a tight top of vest
To looking literally a guy who may or may not go to the gym,.
I'm also on antidepressants Dr says dangerous for my mental health shrinking somquick and going cold turkey from 5,g a week to 0g
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Reminds of when I had to take 3 whole months off as well. Was 220ish, natural, went down to just under 180lbs. Took a good 3 months+ to get that shit back, (still natty...) and could not even incline bench 1 plate 12 times. What a shock, was embarrassed, took 3 months to get a 3 plate squat as well after.
The good news in your case is you'll be on gear. Depending if you're an ecto and skinny or other would determine your diet I think when you go back on.
Either way, calorie wise, I think it will take some time to build up to being able to eat the way you do and by the end of summer you should be back to your old self if not before.
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Thanks for the encouraged words brother
I also went on a meph binge that week was the royal week of royal fuck ups
I'm natural quite lean but not an ecto
So once back to it slowly increase food and gear n just keep it going
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Thanks for the encouraged words brother
I also went on a meph binge that week was the royal week of royal fuck ups
I'm natural quite lean but not an ecto
So once back to it slowly increase food and gear n just keep it going
Done my fair of binges as well, so glad I'm over the worst of all that. Part in bold is what I would do. No point in taking 100mg of anadrol that will make you so damn strong, you won't be ready for it...
Gonna try and focus on the positive here that you're taking a break from high gear doses. I think we both know it takes something real serious for guys like us to back off. Hearing you have such an aged liver is not very comforting...
Can you go for walks outside or no physical activity at all?
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Yes the liver results wasn't great to hear
Had some bad news and went straight to the meph made everything worse lol
Exactly 3 months off gear and then attack it from a different angle lower doses
More time cruising ect
I can walk about currently after 2 bouts of anaesthetic and blood transfusion I'm pretty weak walking takes my breath away
But as I get better I'm gna start walking more
May even do some light lifting once its healed na bit
We talking about a wound 12cm by 10cm so pretty substantial alson,4cm deep
Slow steady progress hoping by sept time I'll look more like myself
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Yes the liver results wasn't great to hear
Had some bad news and went straight to the meph made everything worse lol
Exactly 3 months off gear and then attack it from a different angle lower doses
More time cruising ect
I can walk about currently after 2 bouts of anaesthetic and blood transfusion I'm pretty weak walking takes my breath away
But as I get better I'm gna start walking more
May even do some light lifting once its healed na bit
We talking about a wound 12cm by 10cm so pretty substantial alson,4cm deep
Slow steady progress hoping by sept time I'll look more like myself
CRap, that is HUGE!!!. The light lifting my mess up your process and not do much for your cause of retaining muscle. I'd try to be outside and get air, walk a bit, rest and so on.
But for sure the iron will be calling you man. Say you said you'd train at 33% and do fast sets of light weights... Say you finish the training and did not ruin the recovery process. I bet you will wanna go heavier next time, get a bit more reps or whatever.
Don't have the time you spent out the gym up until now ruined by not allowing this to reover/heal!!!
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How'd you get the abscess? was it
(1) Dirty gear
(2) Bad injection technique
(3) Injecting too much gear in the same spot too often?
I want to avoid this myself
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Didn't swab
Had been gym before
Maim culprit injexting 5ml into scar tissue comtaing ,,500mg test ,500mg eq 200,,,mg mast 200mg tren
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Didn't swab
Had been gym before
Maim culprit injexting 5ml into scar tissue comtaing ,,500mg test ,500mg eq 200,,,mg mast 200mg tren
Ah shit man, that sucks. at least it was free on the NHS, i presume? I think you should take some GH to help in the recovery process
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Dude take this time to get super lean its a blessing in disguise! You will blow up lean! This time try it on smaller doses. I got real sick once couldn't eat so I dropped fat like crazy. Only took a few months to blow up again. This time be smarter use less.
What was wrong with your liver and kidneys?
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On grams per week for long periods of time will destroy your liver and kidneys, its the price you pay for blasting...
I've known a few guys get abscesses, I honestly believe its from dirty gear 90% of the time.. But frequent volume into same area could as you found out do the same
I hope you recover and see the light, no point killing your self unless your chasing the dream, you wont think it now, but tho is probly the bed thing that happens to you, you've saved your self from dialysis/ liver failure
I had similar situation, was chasing a top 5 heavy finish, around your age, tore both my hamstrings, pec, knee and ac joint all in 6 month, went from 19st with abbs to 16 and soft... I was just starting to up my doses from moderate to heavy, looking at slin etc etc... I'm glad I hurt my self id be half way to the grave by now
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You're alive man! Be thankful for that
I would start on trt human grade only doctor prescribed
Find something else to appreciate in life besides a mirror
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You're alive man! Be thankful for that
I would start on trt human grade only doctor prescribed
Find something else to appreciate in life besides a mirror
No one in uk is getting trt off a doctor... Specialy a man under 50
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No one in uk is getting trt off a doctor... Specialy a man under 50
There are a lot of harley street anti-aging men's health clinics that prescribe test. You have to be willing to pay the price though.
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Bro so what exactly happened? did it turn a color right away or did you just get horrible PIP? I did 4CC's last night 2 CC Tren and 2 CC watson Test cyp but I totally fucked up I forgot to switch the needle! So I went through a bunch of stoppers it's a little swollen but not disscolored and I did train today. No flu. Fuck I can;t believe I forgot to switch the needle tip! I think it's just swollen, it should go down I don;t feel like going to the hospiatl I still went to the gym twice today. I shot another 3CC in my right glute today so I think I am OK. Nothing is disscolored just feels swollen.
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So guys you all know that I had a lump
Well it turned green and into a huge abcess
Went hospital got it drained and now have a huge open wound
What's worse second day in hospital it bled uncontrollable and I almost blednto death
I had a blood transfusion and spent 8 days in hospital
I now have a a vacume attached to the wound am on codeine round the clock for the pain
No training for 3 months. - already look like a normal person had no gear for 5 weeks.
Lost 2 stone already
Lesson - always swabb and don't jab 5ml in one go your asking for trouble
Going forward , ,I'm going to use peptides to help healing
Then probably grow very slow and lean after recovery
Really put me off high doses tbh
Dr also said my kidneys and liver where that of a 50 year old,
Still hasn't put me off gear though , just going to be more sensibken
I'm more pissed that all winter ivengrown inton 235lb ready tonlean down
To a solid ,220 - and this has fuked everything
Yes it Fuking hurts and I'm attached to a tube and vacume all day
Look up VAC therapy that's what I'm on
Now someone cheer me up n say muscle memory exists and I'll be back to 235 in no time lol
Someone help me with a plan for when in recover /.... Bulk? Lean..... Or recomp
Never had time off or an injury before
Possibly the only positive this was the only way I was gna have time off aas
I could go into mad depression
Going from a freak,, complimented talked about wherever I went in a tight top of vest
To looking literally a guy who may or may not go to the gym,.
I'm also on antidepressants Dr says dangerous for my mental health shrinking somquick and going cold turkey from 5,g a week to 0g
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How long did it take to turn colors and turned that green color. I think I am fine but what a dumb mistake I made.
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Holy fuck thats scary. Please tell us what lab you were using ?
And shit being big isnt worth going through all that, you should seriously consider taking a more conservative stance with your dosage.
No one needs to run tren or orals year round...
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Like local hero said blessing in disguise - I will be much more conservative
I'm using this 3 months off gear low calories high protein try and get lean
White widow = after about 7 days it went green, trust me the pain of abcess isn't the same no way you could go gym in fact just having a shower almost brought me to passnout it was so painful
They drained 150ml!!!!! Of puss
I'm gna say in doubt dirty gear as I'd used the same vial all week
More likely volume in scar plus no swabbing and not being hygeininc
I've just been lucky thus far
Think my calories are gna be low protein high
May get some clen next week and peptides tommorow maybe gh
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No one in uk is getting trt off a doctor... Specialy a man under 50
Talk to joon, he gets HGH and anavar from his ::)
Must have been filthy UG gear, the volume and scar tissue just gave it more chance for whatever was in there to infect you
Always run UG through a filter if you have to use it IMO as you never know how unsterile it might be
Pics of ass?
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Wow man that sounds soo fucked up, horrible situation.
Just don't see how sterile gear can cause an abcess even if you injected into scar tissue, 5ml isnt that much, especially for your ass. It should have just lumped up for a while till it dispersed.
anyway, glad your on track to recovery.
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good lord..
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Please name the lab you were using mate.
Although jabbing a sweaty ass is never a good idea!!
A few things you need to take from this. Constructive criticism:
This is a wake up call for you.
1.Your kidneys and liver are not in a good way imagine your heart. Are you using preventative measures such as niacin, CQ10, Nac ace, Hawthorn etc etc.
I take it you are not getting regular blood work done?
2.Youre 17st and having to use a boatload of shit to maintain it, thats doing you no favours. I would say that you arent the best responder to AAS, if your gear
is bob on.
3.Your mental state has been effected. You associate your identity to your physique. Everyone will have to come off the gas at some point. You have had a
taster.
All the best with your recovery. Been there myself last year with a quad tendon tear.
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Pepshop who is mazfit source and make muscle@pharma is fucked over many many guys and closed site and dispear
4 ppl have abscess from his gear and 6 ppl receive canola oil 100% bunk
Mazfit get his shit for free so mate .... Pepshop fuck u !!!! Next time learn pay for your gear and no take free bathtub shit
His gear is bunk that why u use 5 g .... If u want i can buy u 4 vial alpha pharma tren ace and try take 1 g a week from that ... lOl
U telll lies u are pro to promote pepshop ... Now look what happened to u
Pepshpo-> muscle@pharma-> bathtub gear
Dismised
P.s i feel bad for u no bodybuilder must go through this but next time remeber ... In this game u say u know so well but u know fuck all ... In this game man ... Always fucking always u get what u pay for!!!!
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I've been using that gear for 2 years mate never had a problem
I only promoted it because it worked for me hence 17 stone I'm an average responder to gear
This jab was actually pharma labs ~ but like I said I'd been using it all week
Quite obviously you work for another brand as you have one post
And non of the gear uses canola oil its all eo.
I will continue to use that at lower doses as I've never had a problem in 2 years
Don't come on here and give false info like the shill you are
How did I get to 17 stone with only one month on growth if the brand is so shit?
And I only used ,5g for 3 months out of 2 years. And never one infection.
It was either the pharma labs or the fact I didn't swab hadn't showered just bad luck which can happen.
Don't give miss information out please.
Thanks for the positive words the rest of you definately a blessing in disguise
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Sorry to hear this man, i hope everything heals up quickly.
You will be fine, just focus on recovery and staying healthy. Once you are in better shape, start exercising and slowly work back into it. I had an ACL reconstruction years ago and i took 8 weeks off from the gym with no gear. I shrunk down quite a bit and was rehabing my knee while taking a lot of pain killers. After 4 weeks of physical therapy i started lifting weights in the gym. At first i was really weak, but after a few weeks i started to feel good again. I started a mild cycle of Test and Tren with a low dose of GH and made a quick recovery.
Moral of the story, shit happens and you will be fine in a few months.
Just don't get fat. ;D
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Thanks buddy - good to hear other peoples experiences in bodybuilding
When you push the limits shit can happen
PS = this I'd what the doctor said
5,ml is too much even for the glute
I had bacteria on my skin which is picked up in gyms that aren't cleaned properly
Which if gets pushed under the skin with a needle can cause infection
I also have this antibacterial skin wash h and nasel spray for this bacteria
Just going to stay lean and recover nicely hopefully
Its already shrunk by a cm in width and height which is a postiv,e!
Appreciate all the get well messages too.
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5ml is quite a bit.
I did 4ml the other day (damn primo doesnt hold in higher concentration more than 125mg before it becomes crippling)
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Does this mean you are no longer a member of team 5cc?
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Why jump on peptides? At this point let your body recover, save up cash and get high quality HGH.
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Team 5cc lol
I was going to do one jab before bed to help release natty GH which helps healing
But I may not just want to try and utilise whatever to speed up recovery
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holy shit 150ml pus
hope you get well soon man...
fuck, thats why i only inject after showering... im guilty of never swabbing vials or skin lol
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I'm extremely sanitary when prepping for an injection. I've only had like 3 bad shots out of a few thousand.
That said, i know a lot of guys who don't swab properly.
A little GH will help it heal.
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So guys you all know that I had a lump
Well it turned green and into a huge abcess
Went hospital got it drained and now have a huge open wound
What's worse second day in hospital it bled uncontrollable and I almost blednto death
I had a blood transfusion and spent 8 days in hospital
I now have a a vacume attached to the wound am on codeine round the clock for the pain
No training for 3 months. - already look like a normal person had no gear for 5 weeks.
Lost 2 stone already
Lesson - always swabb and don't jab 5ml in one go your asking for trouble
Going forward , ,I'm going to use peptides to help healing
Then probably grow very slow and lean after recovery
Really put me off high doses tbh
Dr also said my kidneys and liver where that of a 50 year old,
Still hasn't put me off gear though , just going to be more sensibken
I'm more pissed that all winter ivengrown inton 235lb ready tonlean down
To a solid ,220 - and this has fuked everything
Yes it Fuking hurts and I'm attached to a tube and vacume all day
Look up VAC therapy that's what I'm on
Now someone cheer me up n say muscle memory exists and I'll be back to 235 in no time lol
Someone help me with a plan for when in recover /.... Bulk? Lean..... Or recomp
Never had time off or an injury before
Possibly the only positive this was the only way I was gna have time off aas
I could go into mad depression
Going from a freak,, complimented talked about wherever I went in a tight top of vest
To looking literally a guy who may or may not go to the gym,.
I'm also on antidepressants Dr says dangerous for my mental health shrinking somquick and going cold turkey from 5,g a week to 0g
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M
L
Watched a video on V.A.C. therapy. It is pretty involved. It also appears to be rather painful. The nurse in the video indicated that the patient would need pain medication for this procedure. It must work though. There is a lot of information about this type of wound therapy available.
If what happened to you happened to me, I'd probably not want to stick myself with a syringe ever again. I'm on TRT and give myself a 100mg injection once a week. The dose is miniscule compared to what you were doing. Since it is doctor prescribed the Testosterone Cypionate comes from the pharmacy. Not much chance of it being contaminated. I'm careful about cleaning/swabbing the area I'm shooting and the vial top with alcohol before the injection. I always use a fresh syringe. -So far so good and I've been doing this for at least 3 years.
It's a bummer that this happened to you. Do you think it was worth it? I mean not only getting and treating the abscess, but also losing what you gained? I can understand why your doctor would put you on an anti depressant, this must depress the hell out of you.
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Watched a video on V.A.C. therapy. It is pretty involved. It also appears to be rather painful. The nurse in the video indicated that the patient would need pain medication for this procedure. It must work though. There is a lot of information about this type of wound therapy available.
If what happened to you happened to me, I'd probably not want to stick myself with a syringe ever again. I'm on TRT and give myself a 100mg injection once a week. The dose is miniscule compared to what you were doing. Since it is doctor prescribed the Testosterone Cypionate comes from the pharmacy. Not much chance of it being contaminated. I'm careful about cleaning/swabbing the area I'm shooting and the vial top with alcohol before the injection. I always use a fresh syringe. -So far so good and I've been doing this for at least 3 years.
It's a bummer that this happened to you. Do you think it was worth it? I mean not only getting and treating the abscess, but also losing what you gained? I can understand why your doctor would put you on an anti depressant, this must depress the hell out of you.
Just an idea, why not switch to testosterone undecanoate? It's an injection every 12 weeks or so. Super long half life so you don't have to inject too often. It's known as Nebido in Europe and the rest of the world (not sure about the brand name in US)
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Just an idea, why not switch to testosterone undecanoate? It's an injection every 12 weeks or so. Super long half life so you don't have to inject too often. It's known as Nebido in Europe and the rest of the world (not sure about the brand name in US)
I tried it. Meh, build up takes forever and say you run into health problems and that stuff is built up, will take forever to go back to baseline levels... Too paranoid to use it again.
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Just an idea, why not switch to testosterone undecanoate? It's an injection every 12 weeks or so. Super long half life so you don't have to inject too often. It's known as Nebido in Europe and the rest of the world (not sure about the brand name in US)
Thanks this is worth asking the doctor about. When I first started, he was giving me an injection once every 3 weeks. Since testosterone cyp- has a half live of about 8 days, I was going though some highs and lows with this therapy and it was more expensive since I paid the co-pay for a doctor's appointment every three weeks.
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I tried it. Meh, build up takes forever and say you run into health problems and that stuff is built up, will take forever to go back to baseline levels... Too paranoid to use it again.
I wouldn't use it for blasting. I agree, for blast doses, it's better to use short esters, in and out of your system faster in case you run into health problems. But if you're running lifelong TRT, surely a longer ester is more convenient? If testosterone is used at a proper TRT dose (i.e. around 100 mg a week depending on your physiology), I don't see how it would be dangerous. Bear in mind, the injection is 4ml, 1000mg of testosterone, slowly released over 12 weeks, so it's actually slightly less than 100mg a week. Surely that is not a dangerous dose at all
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I wouldn't use it for blasting. I agree, for blast doses, it's better to use short esters, in and out of your system faster in case you run into health problems. But if you're running lifelong TRT, surely a longer ester is more convenient? If testosterone is used at a proper TRT dose (i.e. around 100 mg a week depending on your physiology), I don't see how it would be dangerous. Bear in mind, the injection is 4ml, 1000mg of testosterone, slowly released over 12 weeks, so it's actually slightly less than 100mg a week. Surely that is not a dangerous dose at all
Just my paranoia talking I guess, the stuff made me nervous as only one other person I know used it when I was using it. Gotta be real patient with that stuff as it takes forever to kick in...
But you're right, it's not dangerous, lol, just prefer to use what I am used to and can predict. If going away for a while, I'd load up on the stuff though....
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Watched a video on V.A.C. therapy. It is pretty involved. It also appears to be rather painful. The nurse in the video indicated that the patient would need pain medication for this procedure. It must work though. There is a lot of information about this type of wound therapy available.
If what happened to you happened to me, I'd probably not want to stick myself with a syringe ever again. I'm on TRT and give myself a 100mg injection once a week. The dose is miniscule compared to what you were doing. Since it is doctor prescribed the Testosterone Cypionate comes from the pharmacy. Not much chance of it being contaminated. I'm careful about cleaning/swabbing the area I'm shooting and the vial top with alcohol before the injection. I always use a fresh syringe. -So far so good and I've been doing this for at least 3 years.
It's a bummer that this happened to you. Do you think it was worth it? I mean not only getting and treating the abscess, but also losing what you gained? I can understand why your doctor would put you on an anti depressant, this must depress the hell out of you.
Hi mate the VAC is quite painful getting the VAC dressing is incredibly painful incredibly
I take 60mg codeine 400mg ibuprofen b4 hand
I was on morphine liquid form in hospital hated the feeling
Was it worth it? No I didn't win a trophy or make money from it
I regret pushing it so far and being lazy with hygein - I'm just slightly confused by the fact in pinned myself same way for 2 years but I spoke it only takes a little bacteria to evolve into a full blown abcess
Training is my passion I love it I love seeing the body change but this time
Instead of being huuuuggee I'm going for lots of cardio lots of circuits and going to go for a ripped physique not to big something more managable
Yes I've almost lost ,50\℅ already after ,5 weeks
But this is my passion I won't stop
Just be more sensible and more health conscious
If anything this has made me realise I was being fucking stupid with my doses and health _ I want to have a family kids eventually
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Hi mate the VAC is quite painful getting the VAC dressing is incredibly painful incredibly
I take 60mg codeine 400mg ibuprofen b4 hand
I was on morphine liquid form in hospital hated the feeling
Was it worth it? No I didn't win a trophy or make money from it
I regret pushing it so far and being lazy with hygein - I'm just slightly confused by the fact in pinned myself same way for 2 years but I spoke it only takes a little bacteria to evolve into a full blown abcess
Training is my passion I love it I love seeing the body change but this time
Instead of being huuuuggee I'm going for lots of cardio lots of circuits and going to go for a ripped physique not to big something more managable
Yes I've almost lost ,50\℅ already after ,5 weeks
But this is my passion I won't stop
Just be more sensible and more health conscious
If anything this has made me realise I was being fucking stupid with my doses and health _ I want to have a family kids eventually
What weight do you plan to be? I think a super ripped and dry 180 lbs at your height (was it 5'10) would be great, something like contest condition Zane
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I'm thinking 200lbs super ripped
I was 235 so its ,35lb less
That means a lot less drugs less force feeding myself
More cardio fasted cardio less carbs more refeeds or carb cycling
Yes frank Zane style physique but slightly bigger.
I've been ,180 ripped tonshreds before onnlittle to no drugs St uni
Girls loved it and i felt a lot healthier
Tbh guys on no gear now my head is clear nonparanoia considering I'm loosing most of my weight my mental state is pretty decent
I'll take b4 and after pics and post them here with my full diet and what I took and I'll be 100℅ honest as always
I didn't have to come on here n admit my struggles as it makes me look like a drug addicted idiot
But I'm honest and just giving peoples a heads up
Like the Dr said if your injecting u need to be hygienic and sterilise the site
He said in was very lucky this didn't happen sooner considering how lazy my injecting routine was
The only bacteria they found was one picked up in dirty gyms which was all over my skin
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I'm thinking 200lbs super ripped
I was 235 so its ,35lb less
That means a lot less drugs less force feeding myself
More cardio fasted cardio less carbs more refeeds or carb cycling
Yes frank Zane style physique but slightly bigger.
I've been ,180 ripped tonshreds before onnlittle to no drugs St uni
Girls loved it and i felt a lot healthier
Tbh guys on no gear now my head is clear nonparanoia considering I'm loosing most of my weight my mental state is pretty decent
I'll take b4 and after pics and post them here with my full diet and what I took and I'll be 100℅ honest as always
I didn't have to come on here n admit my struggles as it makes me look like a drug addicted idiot
But I'm honest and just giving peoples a heads up
Like the Dr said if your injecting u need to be hygienic and sterilise the site
He said in was very lucky this didn't happen sooner considering how lazy my injecting routine was
The only bacteria they found was one picked up in dirty gyms which was all over my skin
Try to use pharma gear if possible and if genuine
Makes a massive difference IMO just like pharma HGH
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I'm thinking 200lbs super ripped
I was 235 so its ,35lb less
That means a lot less drugs less force feeding myself
More cardio fasted cardio less carbs more refeeds or carb cycling
Yes frank Zane style physique but slightly bigger.
I've been ,180 ripped tonshreds before onnlittle to no drugs St uni
Girls loved it and i felt a lot healthier
Tbh guys on no gear now my head is clear nonparanoia considering I'm loosing most of my weight my mental state is pretty decent
I'll take b4 and after pics and post them here with my full diet and what I took and I'll be 100℅ honest as always
I didn't have to come on here n admit my struggles as it makes me look like a drug addicted idiot
But I'm honest and just giving peoples a heads up
Like the Dr said if your injecting u need to be hygienic and sterilise the site
He said in was very lucky this didn't happen sooner considering how lazy my injecting routine was
The only bacteria they found was one picked up in dirty gyms which was all over my skin
That is a good idea man. I was constantly running upwards of 2 grams plus. I chopped everything more than in half. I'm only running 900 mg total. I train 3-4 days a week now. I'm thicker fuller look healthier. Your body can only process so much of that garbage if you don't have the genes for it.
Now is your opportunity to gradually build up slow and see what you can get away with at the lowest dose.
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I'm thinking 200lbs super ripped
I was 235 so its ,35lb less
That means a lot less drugs less force feeding myself
More cardio fasted cardio less carbs more refeeds or carb cycling
Yes frank Zane style physique but slightly bigger.
I've been ,180 ripped tonshreds before onnlittle to no drugs St uni
Girls loved it and i felt a lot healthier
Tbh guys on no gear now my head is clear nonparanoia considering I'm loosing most of my weight my mental state is pretty decent
I'll take b4 and after pics and post them here with my full diet and what I took and I'll be 100℅ honest as always
I didn't have to come on here n admit my struggles as it makes me look like a drug addicted idiot
But I'm honest and just giving peoples a heads up
Like the Dr said if your injecting u need to be hygienic and sterilise the site
He said in was very lucky this didn't happen sooner considering how lazy my injecting routine was
The only bacteria they found was one picked up in dirty gyms which was all over my skin
What stack are you planning on using? I want to go for the smaller but more shredded look myself
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What about job and parents? They freaking out over all this?
Is steroid use going to be put all over your medical file?
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Hi mate the VAC is quite painful getting the VAC dressing is incredibly painful incredibly
I take 60mg codeine 400mg ibuprofen b4 hand
I was on morphine liquid form in hospital hated the feeling
Was it worth it? No I didn't win a trophy or make money from it
I regret pushing it so far and being lazy with hygein - I'm just slightly confused by the fact in pinned myself same way for 2 years but I spoke it only takes a little bacteria to evolve into a full blown abcess
Training is my passion I love it I love seeing the body change but this time
Instead of being huuuuggee I'm going for lots of cardio lots of circuits and going to go for a ripped physique not to big something more managable
Yes I've almost lost ,50\℅ already after ,5 weeks
But this is my passion I won't stop
Just be more sensible and more health conscious
If anything this has made me realise I was being fucking stupid with my doses and health _ I want to have a family kids eventually
It could have been a combination of things which caused the abscess. Your immune system could have been out of whack when you injected which caused a tiny bit of bacteria to enter your system at exactly the wrong time. It is also possible the gear wasn't pure, but then unless the was first injection from the vial, you'd think it would of happened before.
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Mazfit
Bro sorry to hear about your situation. I recently had a major health setback and can relate. For many years I've been battling chronic migraine and am on daily meds. I had a terrible attack when I moved across the country and they couldn't get it under control. I literally had a solid fucking migraine for 3 months straight and was in agony. They added botox back in and another med and I'm finally stabilizing. During that time I couldn't work out. I went from 243lb (lean) to 205lb. I got so depressed. My gf, who I used to work out with, didn't look at me the same and really wasn't there for me in that period. Lost her too. Point being bro life throws us curve balls but we have to be tougher then what it tosses at us. The gym, women, gear, etc, will always be there; be patient and go slow, it will come. I have to tell myself this every day as I just started to hit the gym last week.
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Mazfit
Bro sorry to hear about your situation. I recently had a major health setback and can relate. For many years I've been battling chronic migraine and am on daily meds. I had a terrible attack when I moved across the country and they couldn't get it under control. I literally had a solid fucking migraine for 3 months straight and was in agony. They added botox back in and another med and I'm finally stabilizing. During that time I couldn't work out. I went from 243lb (lean) to 205lb. I got so depressed. My gf, who I used to work out with, didn't look at me the same and really wasn't there for me in that period. Lost her too. Point being bro life throws us curve balls but we have to be tougher then what it tosses at us. The gym, women, gear, etc, will always be there; be patient and go slow, it will come. I have to tell myself this every day as I just started to hit the gym last week.
My son-in-law suffers from debilitating migraines almost daily. Like with you, the doctors have tried various meds including botox. He has an EpiPen which sometimes helps and sometimes not. Usually he has to go to bed and hopefully sleep them off.
You didn't lose much when your girlfriend took a hike on you. If she really cared about you, she would have stayed around and tried to support you in whatever way she could. That's what people do when they love someone.
I wish you the best in finding a way to control those migraines. Don't give up.
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My son-in-law suffers from debilitating migraines almost daily. Like with you, the doctors have tried various meds including botox. He has an EpiPen which sometimes helps and sometimes not. Usually he has to go to bed and hopefully sleep them off.
You didn't lose much when your girlfriend took a hike on you. If she really cared about you, she would have stayed around and tried to support you in whatever way she could. That's what people do when they love someone.
I wish you the best in finding a way to control those migraines. Don't give up.
Thank you Primemuscle, appreciate the support and kind words. It is a debilitating illness to deal with and you just never know if you are going to be pain free on any given day. Best of luck to your son in law. Yes I agree, while I loved her to no end, she probably wasn't worth it; time heals
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So guys you all know that I had a lump
Well it turned green and into a huge abcess
Went hospital got it drained and now have a huge open wound
What's worse second day in hospital it bled uncontrollable and I almost bled to death
I had a blood transfusion and spent 8 days in hospital
I now have a a vacume attached to the wound am on codeine round the clock for the pain
No training for 3 months. - already look like a normal person had no gear for 5 weeks.
Lost 2 stone already
Lesson - always swabb and don't jab 5ml in one go your asking for trouble
Going forward , ,I'm going to use peptides to help healing
Then probably grow very slow and lean after recovery
Really put me off high doses tbh
Dr also said my kidneys and liver where that of a 50 year old,
Still hasn't put me off gear though , just going to be more sensibken
I'm more pissed that all winter ivengrown inton 235lb ready tonlean down
To a solid ,220 - and this has fuked everything
Yes it Fuking hurts and I'm attached to a tube and vacume all day
Look up VAC therapy that's what I'm on
Now someone cheer me up n say muscle memory exists and I'll be back to 235 in no time lol
Someone help me with a plan for when in recover /.... Bulk? Lean..... Or recomp
Never had time off or an injury before
Possibly the only positive this was the only way I was gna have time off aas
I could go into mad depression
Going from a freak,, complimented talked about wherever I went in a tight top of vest
To looking literally a guy who may or may not go to the gym,.
I'm also on antidepressants Dr says dangerous for my mental health shrinking somquick and going cold turkey from 5,g a week to 0g
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I think your ass did not get cutt off and i highly doubt you almost died,"Test some of thi hear outz' you would have to have been injecting some very unsterile gear if that were tge truthmb n
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I think your ass did not get cutt off and i highly doubt you almost died,"Test some of thi hear outz' you would have to have been injecting some very unsterile gear if that were tge truthmb n
Don't mix whiskey and pain meds when you post, top tip..
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You stupid fucking retard...hahaha mazfit.
Relax....its a part of the game...though doesn't necessarily need to be. Lackasdical attitude towards injection hygiene gets this abscess. We all face it sooner or later....so relax.
Stop over reacting and you will bounce back to be even better because now you are a wiser person.
Just let it heal. Keep working out the upper body though and continue jabbing the shoulders as much as you can. ...remember the "rubbing alcohol" though.
Get some herbs in your system...like turmeric which is going to help you heal faster.
Get big soon mate.
Prayers for you.
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Had a very similar experience in my quad. Have a very large chunk/line cut out of it. I think the dr drained about 200ml out the first time he did it. Finally went to surgery after being told I should have been in the emergency room a month before but had a stupid dr who just wanted to prescribe antibiotics. Drained that thing myself in the bathtub several times just so I could sleep it hurt so bad.
When I finally got it cut open my good dr said they ended up getting out like 500ml (most he'd seen). Said it shot out like a fountain. Not a good experience, but had never had one before so now know what it looks like and caught a few early on which were easy to take care of. Mine was more of a swelling of the whole leg concentrated in the quad. Was really, really deep in the muscle.
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Had a very similar experience in my quad. Have a very large chunk/line cut out of it. I think the dr drained about 200ml out the first time he did it. Finally went to surgery after being told I should have been in the emergency room a month before but had a stupid dr who just wanted to prescribe antibiotics. Drained that thing myself in the bathtub several times just so I could sleep it hurt so bad.
When I finally got it cut open my good dr said they ended up getting out like 500ml (most he'd seen). Said it shot out like a fountain. Not a good experience, but had never had one before so now know what it looks like and caught a few early on which were easy to take care of. Mine was more of a swelling of the whole leg concentrated in the quad. Was really, really deep in the muscle.
what does it look like? So I know when to get it checked out if it happens to me
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I think your ass did not get cutt off and i highly doubt you almost died,"Test some of thi hear outz' you would have to have been injecting some very unsterile gear if that were tge truthmb n
I almost died and still have nightmares
My wound bled uncontrollably for 12 hours leading to memloosing ,3 pints of blood and my blood pressure being 75\30 insanely low ,- why would I lie
I over ecagerate about half my ass but it is now 10cm by ,9cm and ,4,cm in depth
So yes I was in the red zone
My parents told me if I take steroids again I'm out.
Another thing I mentioned is I'd been on a meph alcohol binge that week due to my Nana dying and me falling into a depressive hole this could of put my immune system into oblivion
My girl has been an angel which I'm lucky about
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Stack probably
500mg test tren mast
100mg var
That's it.
The moment I new it was an abcess is when it went green in the centre
Mazrim I feel your pain sounds worse then mine
Did the wound heal 100℅ did you just get it dressed and packed
Good news in 6 days its healed half a cm in all directions
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You stupid fucking retard...hahaha mazfit.
Relax....its a part of the game...though doesn't necessarily need to be. Lackasdical attitude towards injection hygiene gets this abscess. We all face it sooner or later....so relax.
Stop over reacting and you will bounce back to be even better because now you are a wiser person.
Just let it heal. Keep working out the upper body though and continue jabbing the shoulders as much as you can. ...remember the "rubbing alcohol" though.
Get some herbs in your system...like turmeric which is going to help you heal faster.
Get big soon mate.
Prayers for you.
Lmao hahaha stupid Fuking idiot indeed
I actually think it was a combo of things alcohol meph binge ( immune system shot to shit),/ hygein / amount of oil
Maybe som
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Congrats on becoming a legit 3 holer
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wtf, after the first time I needed to get cut open I'd never touch anything I didn't get from CVS (except orals) again
mind blowing what some people will go though
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wtf, after the first time I needed to get cut open I'd never touch anything I didn't get from CVS (except orals) again
mind blowing what some people will go though
Orals from unknown sources are a risk too.
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Orals from unknown sources are a risk too.
The liver is an amazing filter. No such layer when injecting. I wipe everything like if I was cleaning my girls ass before reaming her: wipe twice, new needle etc.
Pharma grade helps too...
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wtf, after the first time I needed to get cut open I'd never touch anything I didn't get from CVS (except orals) again
mind blowing what some people will go though
its a mental illness, the guy is back on gear and he isnt even recovered probably will end up like derek anthony
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its a mental illness, the guy is back on gear and he isnt even recovered probably will end up like derek anthony
I like Mazfit so i'm not gonna pile on but yeah: major wake up call.
Hope you get well brother. Thanks for almost dying for us bitches ;D
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its a mental illness, the guy is back on gear and he isnt even recovered probably will end up like derek anthony
I wouldn't say it's a deal breaker, if you take proper precautions, abscesses should be rare; I think it's inevitable to get an infection at least once if you've been pinning many years. Kind of how if you fuck enough girls, you're bound to get an STD of some sort. Does this mean you don't fuck girls?
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Mazrim I feel your pain sounds worse then mine
Did the wound heal 100℅ did you just get it dressed and packed
Good news in 6 days its healed half a cm in all directions
They packed it and for awhile after I would have to change it often. They also put a hole near where it was packed and attached a tube to it that drained it out into a container that I had to wear for a bit.
I still have scars there and it has an "indented" line where they made the cut. Almost looks like an extra muscle split when I flex it.
Healed a 100% though as far as range of motion/feel to it.
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what does it look like? So I know when to get it checked out if it happens to me
Most are probably going to look more similar to mazfits. Or with a concentrated red lump/area. Mine was so deep in the muscle that it was more just puffy in a large area and didn't look like the pics online. Also had some white streaking to it. That was why it took me awhile to go see doctor as I've had shots that have caused that before and went away after a week. This one didn't and whole leg swelled to the point of my calves/foot swelling up inches during the day after being on it.
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I wouldn't say it's a deal breaker, if you take proper precautions, abscesses should be rare; I think it's inevitable to get an infection at least once if you've been pinning many years.
Agreed. It isn't necessarily just because of dirty gear as well. Some just can't handle a lot of oil/cc in one spot.
Also the more frequently you shoot the more likely to happen.
Also, I didn't have insurance at the time so made me a lot more hesitant at getting it checked. Now that I do much more likely to check on things. Most are easy to deal with if caught early or go away on their own.
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I still have gotten some PIP or swolen lumpy areas from using gear from the pharmacy it just depends on how much you can handle and if your shooting it into scar tissue. I shot 4CC in my right ventroglute, I took like a week off from that site shot right into scar tissue and it did swell up. In the left ventroglute I shot 4CC of a mix,2CC Tren, 2CC NPP and it swole up there as well bad enough to where I could definatley feel a big lump but it didn;t bleed or turn any color. It's day 3 and it has gone down quite a bit but it is still swollen.
Man I need to find more then 4 injection sites. I only pin my glutes and shoulders but I have never put more then 2 CC in my shoulders. I have gone as high as 4CC in the ventroglutes but never 4CC in the shoulder. My legs are so thick and rock hard I donlt see myself being able to shoot them. way to much muscle mass there.
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I still have gotten some PIP or swolen lumpy areas from using gear from the pharmacy it just depends on how much you can handle and if your shooting it into scar tissue. I shot 4CC in my right ventroglute, I took like a week off from that site shot right into scar tissue and it did swell up. In the left ventroglute I shot 4CC of a mix,2CC Tren, 2CC NPP and it swole up there as well bad enough to where I could definatley feel a big lump but it didn;t bleed or turn any color. It's day 3 and it has gone down quite a bit but it is still swollen.
Man I need to find more then 4 injection sites. I only pin my glutes and shoulders but I have never put more then 2 CC in my shoulders. I have gone as high as 4CC in the ventroglutes but never 4CC in the shoulder. My legs are so thick and rock hard I donlt see myself being able to shoot them. way to much muscle mass there.
lmao that what the muscle mass is FOR
the more the better, less pip and can hold more oil
quads are easiest spot to pin BY FAR
you can also pin on the upper outside and more towards the inside at the bottom, so quads actually have 4 injection spots (dont shoot your teardrops though, big mistake...^^)
if you need even more spots add lats. pretty good spot too
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lmao that what the muscle mass is FOR
the more the better, less pip and can hold more oil
quads are easiest spot to pin BY FAR
you can also pin on the upper outside and more towards the inside at the bottom, so quads actually have 4 injection spots (dont shoot your teardrops though, big mistake...^^)
if you need even more spots add lats. pretty good spot too
I have heard of pinning lats, but haven't tried it. Isn't it quite an awkward position? I love leg shots (quads, calves) because I don't need any weird torso twisting to reach them
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I have heard of pinning lats, but haven't tried it. Isn't it quite an awkward position? I love leg shots (quads, calves) because I don't need any weird torso twisting to reach them
pretty easy, just stand infront of a mirror, raise your arm and pin from the front
from the side is impossible if you got any mass of course ;D
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its a mental illness, the guy is back on gear and he isnt even recovered probably will end up like derek anthony
I'm not back on gear
I'm not taking anything untill I'm fully recovered , 3 months
The GH peptides are only for wound healing
Yeah it probably is a mental illness
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I'm not back on gear
I'm not taking anything untill I'm fully recovered , 3 months
The GH peptides are only for wound healing
Yeah it probably is a mental illness
It IS a mental illness, 100 percent. Sorry man, it just a fact.
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It IS a mental illness, 100 percent. Sorry man, it just a fact.
Yes, it is, lol. But you juice too, no? (at least small amounts of test. My definition of juicing is anything above physiological limits). Embrace the madness :D
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Yes, it is, lol. But you juice too, no? (at least small amounts of test. My definition of juicing is anything above physiological limits). Embrace the madness :D
Yeah im insecure and make up for it with gym and gear but honestly, if Maz almost died and is layed up with drains and he is STILL hitting dirty underground peptides to "heal" because he has a needle fetish ... That lifestyle will not end well. Just being real and actually concerned for the dude. Maz, just stop everything and let your Blood and body heal.
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I'd lay of those peptides shit could be rat insulin for all you know. Shit prob cause cancer too. Stick with test and deca for awhile. You can accomplish anything with those two. Test deca winny masteron