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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Cleanest Natural on January 27, 2007, 02:29:18 AM
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I have most of my clientele coming to me to loose some /more weight . I am curious if there are some of you doing PT , and if , what kind of diet/training/cardio combo do you use . I keep things pretty simple as I will detail later.
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All of my girlfriends are fat, so they often ask me to help them. I say 6 small meals, low carbs, high protein. And excercize. Usually they dump me before they implement any of this, if they ever do.
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All of my girlfriends are fat, so they often ask me to help them. I say 6 small meals, low carbs, high protein. And excercise. Usually they dump me before they implement any of this, if they ever do.
i'm not a huge fan of 6 meals a day.
We are talking about people with regular jobs little discipline who cannot pack their meals. Most of my clientele eats out. I usually have them do 3-4 meals a day. My girlfriend is trying to get thinner so beside eating lifting and cardio I'll have her on t3 and clen , but with my regulars is just eating lifting and cardio. Funny thing she knows I usually tell people 4-6 months to loose the weight but for her is just 2 months , so she asks me why? " you just have excellent genes baby" :))...thanx to my buddies clen and novotyral.
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It is very hard as I am sure you have some great programs for your clients but it's when they are not in your presence is where it is scary.
I have had good success with people making weight loss a lifestyle, eat right, exercise etc etc and others where they go to the gym, go thru the motions and then go home and have a hamburger and haagen das
Do you have ppl report their eating habits to you as well?
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All of my girlfriends are fat, so they often ask me to help them. I say 6 small meals, low carbs, high protein. And excercize. Usually they dump me before they implement any of this, if they ever do.
Haha, that's awesome.
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It is very hard as I am sure you have some great programs for your clients but it's when they are not in your presence is where it is scary.
I have had good success with people making weight loss a lifestyle, eat right, exercise etc etc and others where they go to the gym, go thru the motions and then go home and have a hamburger and haagen das
Do you have ppl report their eating habits to you as well?
Of course...I keep close tabs on all of them...And I'm well aware that they cheat which is ok with me. I try to help them understand what is going on and I found that to be very helpful . The simpler the diet and training/cardio the easier it is. And thank god for those with good genetics because they are walking ads.
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For example, when I start with someone , the first thing I do is have them eat an entire week the same they always did and record everything that they ingest. This way I get an idea of their eating habits , calories etc. I do not use a scale, tape, bodyfat index, etc. I only use a mirror and digital photos for those who are up to it.This is one month worth of progress.
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I usaually would keep it very simple. Broccoli (steamed), skinless chicken breast, turkey breast, occasionally brown rice or a slice of wheat breat, salads with low cal dressing, broiled or grilled fish "of almost any kind". Any steamed vegetables (carrots, califlower, broccoli).
People get too confused and ask (is this good, is that good?) and in context, it all can be o.k, but what normee's keep things in context?
But asking them to log their meals for a week is good, but really personalizing things gets tough. The above is a sure fire way, they can't lose.
Give them a few fast food alternatives, like Subway turkey on wheat with no mayo or cheese, 6 inch or quiznos or something they have near work and home.
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i'm not a huge fan of 6 meals a day.
We are talking about people with regular jobs little discipline who cannot pack their meals. Most of my clientele eats out. I usually have them do 3-4 meals a day. My girlfriend is trying to get thinner so beside eating lifting and cardio I'll have her on t3 and clen , but with my regulars is just eating lifting and cardio. Funny thing she knows I usually tell people 4-6 months to loose the weight but for her is just 2 months , so she asks me why? " you just have excellent genes baby" :))...thanx to my buddies clen and novotyral.
you are a fucking moron. your opting with possible cardiac sides, or thyroid downregulation rather then healthy meals for your girlfriend. your risking her health, unannouced to her and if something went wrong she would have to live with the sides not you. insted of losing weight in a healthy manner your having here take a thyroid hormone, and a prescription stimulant/bronchodialator. when you are on these drugs there are precautions you take with reagards to supps, diet and if you dont knowyour taking them, problems can occur.
YOU ARE A HUGE MORON.
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and her diet is probably healthier than yours. ;)
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you are a fucking moron. your opting with possible cardiac sides, or thyroid downregulation rather then healthy meals for your girlfriend. your risking her health, unannouced to her and if something went wrong she would have to live with the sides not you. insted of losing weight in a healthy manner your having here take a thyroid hormone, and a prescription stimulant/bronchodialator. when you are on these drugs there are precautions you take with reagards to supps, diet and if you dont knowyour taking them, problems can occur.
YOU ARE A HUGE MORON.
I totally agree with you on this one....He is an idiot giving his girlfriend t-3...If that happens to mess up her natural balance one good time she could turn into a fatass in less than a year and then it would take her another year after that for doctors to try to regulate her thyroid again...I have watched this happen before and it isn't a pretty sight...The people that mess up their thyroid spend the rest of their lives with weight issues and the sad thing is at one time they looked pretty good...
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My personal oppinnion is that u don't know what u're balking about. My girl knows about clen and t3..and i've enough expirience to know what i'm doing and what to expect.
"i'm not a huge fan of 6 meals a day.
We are talking about people with regular jobs little discipline who cannot pack their meals. Most of my clientele eats out. I usually have them do 3-4 meals a day. My girlfriend is trying to get thinner so beside eating lifting and cardio I'll have her on t3 and clen , but with my regulars is just eating lifting and cardio. Funny thing she knows I usually tell people 4-6 months to loose the weight but for her is just 2 months , so she asks me why? " you just have excellent genes baby" )...thanx to my buddies clen and novotyral."
Obviously she doesn't know about clen and t-3 or you would have never said that.....You really are an idiot.....
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I totally agree with you on this one....He is an idiot giving his girlfriend t-3...If that happens to mess up her natural balance one good time she could turn into a fatass in less than a year and then it would take her another year after that for doctors to try to regulate her thyroid again...I have watched this happen before and it isn't a pretty sight...The people that mess up their thyroid spend the rest of their lives with weight issues and the sad thing is at one time they looked pretty good...
I bet your expertise in the thyroid field is just outstanding as I am sure you know everything about t3 and clen and how to use them on female bodies.
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"i'm not a huge fan of 6 meals a day.
We are talking about people with regular jobs little discipline who cannot pack their meals. Most of my clientele eats out. I usually have them do 3-4 meals a day. My girlfriend is trying to get thinner so beside eating lifting and cardio I'll have her on t3 and clen , but with my regulars is just eating lifting and cardio. Funny thing she knows I usually tell people 4-6 months to loose the weight but for her is just 2 months , so she asks me why? " you just have excellent genes baby" )...thanx to my buddies clen and novotyral."
Obviously she doesn't know about clen and t-3 or you would have never said that.....You really are an idiot.....
Fuck face...I already told her all about t3, clen and how it works, and she is ok...stop trying to pick at my sentences . You are a biatch and that's that.
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I bet your expertise in the thyroid field is just outstanding as I am sure you know everything about t3 and clen and how to use them on female bodies.
Well judging from your statements I can tell that you are reckless with it...Nor am I claiming to be an expert I have just been around many recreational t3 users that messed themselves up...Clen I don't have a big problem with I have watched tons of people use it and no real drastic problems....
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I totally agree with you on this one....He is an idiot giving his girlfriend t-3...If that happens to mess up her natural balance one good time she could turn into a fatass in less than a year and then it would take her another year after that for doctors to try to regulate her thyroid again...I have watched this happen before and it isn't a pretty sight...The people that mess up their thyroid spend the rest of their lives with weight issues and the sad thing is at one time they looked pretty good...
he has contradicted himself with one post, why would you tell her she has good genes heheh if you werent trying to hide the fact or the other option, she doesnt know. it is obvious she doesnt know what your giving her, that is the information coveyed by your post. not to mention possible adrenal problems associated with stimulant/thyroid manipulation. resulting in low energy levels, low vitality, and lower quality of life.
he is a fucking moron plain a simple. insted of doing it the proper way he gives her drugs, why dont you add in some DNP to speed up the process, shit its not your body.
the worse thing is not knowing your on it, and what to expect and how to deal with the sides or signs of problems. you cant tell whats happening on her insides just as much as she cant, you can guess but youd be a moron, which you are.
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again , you are casting an oppinnion based on hearsay. I don't do stuff i know nothing about. And my girl WILL have fat melting off of her and will loose 20 lbs in about 2, 2 1/2 months. Also i'll have her take some anavar.
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f**k face...I already told her all about t3, clen and how it works, and she is ok...stop trying to pick at my sentences . You are a biatch and that's that.
Your getting pretty defensive LoL...I am glad that you consider yourself an "expert" to where you can just tell your girlfriend about it and she still asks you questions like "why am I losing weight faster"? LoL........Have fun with yourself if you fuck up her body hahaha....
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the statement your highlighting is proving my point not yours. she asks why she is losing weight so fast, this doesnt sound like someone who knows what she is taking, let alone the affects. anyone taking the drugs knows that fat melts off sometimes regardless of diet etc... the fact you dont say its because of the drugs im giving you, and lie and say its because ofyour genes, shows your dishonesty.
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have fun killing your girlfriend. give her some DNP and a high dose ECA stack along with some tren, she should be one her way to a leaner body in no time. she sounds informed from your posts. "dont worry honey, if your heart feels like its going to implode, its just your good genes".
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JUDGING FROM YOUR POST , NOT ONLY YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH T3 AND CLEN, BUT ALSO U ARE SO FOCUSED ON YOUR FIRST MISJUDGEMENT OF MY POST THAT U JUST RANT ON AND ON...READ WHAT I WRITE AND TAKE MY WORD FOR IT CUMSTAIN.
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f**k face...I already told her all about t3, clen and how it works, and she is ok...stop trying to pick at my sentences . You are a biatch and that's that.
Idiot, you owned yourself.
hooking your girl on drugs while you scream loud about being natural.
What an idiot you are.
You lost all credibility.
BTW, what do your clients say about you posting their pics on the internet??
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have fun killing your girlfriend. give her some DNP and a high dose ECA stack along with some tren, she should be one her way to a leaner body in no time. she sounds informed from your posts. "dont worry honey, if your heart feels like its going to implode, its just your good genes".
Yes, good idea.
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you never used that combo and also u never had anyone explain it properly. I'm still waiting for some real bodybuilders to cast an oppinion about how they help clients loose weight. ALSO , I need someone who is familiar with diabetics who wanna loose weight.
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have fun killing your girlfriend. give her some DNP and a high dose ECA stack along with some tren, she should be one her way to a leaner body in no time. she sounds informed from your posts. "dont worry honey, if your heart feels like its going to implode, its just your good genes".
He might as well put her on DNP...Since he is such of an expert and will continue to lie to her about why she is getting the results so quickly LoL....
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My client, MIREL is cool with it. Also he doesn't give a fuck about an american bb forum. This is Romania , so there u have it. But thanx for the input. Have u ever helped someone loose weight? If not , read along, it'll help u.
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You don't know shit about dnp, so stop trying to act like u know cause i'm telling you that when it comes to dieting down , bb or not, u don't know shit.
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My client, MIREL is cool with it. Also he doesn't give a f**k about an american bb forum. This is Romania , so there u have it. But thanx for the input. Have u ever helped someone loose weight? If not , read along, it'll help u.
aha, so you're claiming romania hasn't any laws about personality rights and that your clients are so dumb they don't care about you posting pics?
You're the nicest PT i've ever heard of.
I have some idea for your GF. put her into a cellar and rape her twice a day, no food. She'll be thin in no time!
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You don't know shit about dnp, so stop trying to act like u know cause i'm telling you that when it comes to dieting down , bb or not, u don't know shit.
oohhhooo, the romanian tennis player knows all about dnp!
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My client, MIREL is cool with it. Also he doesn't give a f**k about an american bb forum. This is Romania , so there u have it. But thanx for the input. Have u ever helped someone loose weight? If not , read along, it'll help u.
Well first off I am glad to hear that you are not in America, because I was going to ask you were you train out of...I have been a personal trainer for around 5 years...I only train people on the side now....
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If the guy says ok, go post them. what in the fucking world do you want more?...u make no sense.
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You don't know shit about dnp, so stop trying to act like u know cause i'm telling you that when it comes to dieting down , bb or not, u don't know shit.
Yeah sure I don't know shit.....Hahaha, just because I am not like you and pushing t3 and clen onto my girlfriends to lose weight doesn't mean I dont' know anything about it...I have been active in bodybuilding and helping people get ready for contests for over 7 years...
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Well first off I am glad to hear that you are not in America, because I was going to ask you were you train out of...I have been a personal trainer for around 5 years...I only train people on the side now....
In the states I worked out at powerhouse gym in rosedale park . Ron love was my trainer for shows. that's outside detroit. also
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Clenbuterol prevents epinephrine from antagonizing insulin-stimulated muscle glucose uptake.Hunt DG, Ding Z, Ivy JL.
Exercise Physiology and Metabolism Laboratory, Department of Kinesiology and Health Education, University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas 78712, USA.
In the present study, we investigated the effects of chronic clenbuterol treatment on insulin-stimulated glucose uptake in the presence of epinephrine in isolated rat skeletal muscle. Insulin (50 microU/ml) increased glucose uptake in both fast-twitch (epitrochlearis) and slow-twitch (soleus) muscles. In the presence of 24 nM epinephrine, insulin-stimulated glucose uptake was completely suppressed. This suppression of glucose uptake by epinephrine was accompanied by an increase in the intracellular concentration of glucose 6-phosphate and a decrease in insulin-receptor substrate-1-associated phosphatidylinositol 3-kinase (IRS-1/PI3-kinase) activity. Clenbuterol treatment had no direct effect on insulin-stimulated glucose uptake. However, after clenbuterol treatment, epinephrine was ineffective in attenuating insulin-stimulated muscle glucose uptake. This ineffectiveness of epinephrine to suppress insulin-stimulated glucose uptake occurred in conjunction with its inability to increase the intracellular concentration of glucose 6-phosphate and attenuate IRS-1/PI3-kinase activity. Results of this study indicate that the effectiveness of epinephrine to inhibit insulin-stimulated glucose uptake is severely diminished in muscle from rats pretreated with clenbuterol.
PMID: 11842069 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Clenbuterol prevents epinephrine from antagonizing insulin-stimulated muscle glucose uptake.Hunt DG, Ding Z, Ivy JL.
Exercise Physiology and Metabolism Laboratory, Department of Kinesiology and Health Education, University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas 78712, USA.
In the present study, we investigated the effects of chronic clenbuterol treatment on insulin-stimulated glucose uptake in the presence of epinephrine in isolated rat skeletal muscle. Insulin (50 microU/ml) increased glucose uptake in both fast-twitch (epitrochlearis) and slow-twitch (soleus) muscles. In the presence of 24 nM epinephrine, insulin-stimulated glucose uptake was completely suppressed. This suppression of glucose uptake by epinephrine was accompanied by an increase in the intracellular concentration of glucose 6-phosphate and a decrease in insulin-receptor substrate-1-associated phosphatidylinositol 3-kinase (IRS-1/PI3-kinase) activity. Clenbuterol treatment had no direct effect on insulin-stimulated glucose uptake. However, after clenbuterol treatment, epinephrine was ineffective in attenuating insulin-stimulated muscle glucose uptake. This ineffectiveness of epinephrine to suppress insulin-stimulated glucose uptake occurred in conjunction with its inability to increase the intracellular concentration of glucose 6-phosphate and attenuate IRS-1/PI3-kinase activity. Results of this study indicate that the effectiveness of epinephrine to inhibit insulin-stimulated glucose uptake is severely diminished in muscle from rats pretreated with clenbuterol.
PMID: 11842069 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
BRAVO...U KNOW HOW TO COPY AND PASTE. WELL DONE ;)
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what effect in your own words does clen have on gluconeogenic and glycolytic enzymes? do you know? if not your risking her life.
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All of my girlfriends are fat, so they often ask me to help them. I say 6 small meals, low carbs, high protein. And excercize. Usually they dump me before they implement any of this, if they ever do.
So, Dorian01, if I read this correctly, your thing is being dumped by 'fat chicks?' LOL. :)
/aisle seat, please
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what effect in your own words does clen have on gluconeogenic and glycolytic enzymes? do you know? if not your risking her life.
jesus...look brother. She will use both, she's gonna loose some fat, she'll survive it, u will have to learn to live with it.
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BRAVO...U KNOW HOW TO COPY AND PASTE. WELL DONE ;)
no, im trying to inform you of the effects of gluscose metabolism and glut-4 transport insufficiency with regards to clens effects and inhibition of glycolytic enzymes and glycogen storage. if she is diabetic you should be concerned with this. i dont even think you understand the study, good reply dummy. you asked for some info or knowledge and when it drops you act like a retard and post in caps. you should learn this stuff especially with reagards to pancreatic enzyme expression, and glucagon synthesis which is also effected.
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who in the fucking world said she is diabetic??????????????
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jesus...look brother. She will use both, she's gonna loose some fat, she'll survive it, u will have to learn to live with it.
No, SHE'LL have to live with someone hooking her up against her will because he wanted to fuck her.
You're an asshole.
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I want opinions if u have any from your expirience not to copy and paste some study which has nothing to do with what my thread is about.
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No, SHE'LL have to live with someone hooking her up against her will because he wanted to f**k her.
You're an asshole.
If she said ok...how is this against her will?..u smoking crack buddy?
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If she said ok...how is this against her will?..u smoking crack buddy?
Not that i know of. Maybe if you were my personal trainer.
Are you hooking people with roids to, if they ask you?
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Not that i know of. Maybe if you were my personal trainer.
Are you hooking people with roids to, if they ask you?
stupid question from an obvious retard.
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sevastase what a fucking idiot..... I hope your girlfriend dumps your sorry 700 pound squating ass
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sevastase what a fucking idiot..... I hope your girlfriend dumps your sorry 700 pound squating ass
go suck your boyfriend..this is grown up stuff
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A normal thread bb rel;ated and sure enough there u have it: a few homos who are frustrated with their lack of having a life , hijacking it.
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you never used that combo and also u never had anyone explain it properly. I'm still waiting for some real bodybuilders to cast an oppinion about how they help clients loose weight. ALSO , I need someone who is familiar with diabetics who wanna loose weight.
sorry i thought this diabetic reference was to her. since you mentioned her in the first post.
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no...i have a new short stubby guy who is doing 10+10+10+20IU A DAY.
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were not hijacking the thread your just a moron thats killing people for fun.
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i'm not a huge fan of 6 meals a day.
We are talking about people with regular jobs little discipline who cannot pack their meals. Most of my clientele eats out. I usually have them do 3-4 meals a day. My girlfriend is trying to get thinner so beside eating lifting and cardio I'll have her on t3 and clen , but with my regulars is just eating lifting and cardio. Funny thing she knows I usually tell people 4-6 months to loose the weight but for her is just 2 months , so she asks me why? " you just have excellent genes baby" :))...thanx to my buddies clen and novotyral.
hahahahaha, "excellent genes", if by that she means looking like you've never touched a weight in your life then she's right on the money.
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were not hijacking the thread your just a moron thats killing people for fun.
youre so dramatic...i'm moved
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hahahahaha, "excellent genes", if by that she means looking like you've never touched a weight in your life then she's right on the money.
she has them not me..are u gonna take my challenge pussy?
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she has them not me..are u gonna take my challenge pussy?
what challenge is that, skinny?
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why are you a trainer sevastese its obvious you dont know shit about working out...or nutrition by reading your post in the other thread..your a "mythoralizer"
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youre so dramatic...i'm moved
is that you ted bundy?
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Squirt...i said before that in the next few months i'll post vids of me squatting 6 plates and beching 4...in return i want a pic of u on the forum.
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do you eat the bodies of the people you kill.
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Squirt...i said before that in the next few months i'll post vids of me squatting 6 plates and beching 4...in return i want a pic of u on the forum.
you've got a deal but those lifts have to be full range.
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HAHAHAHAHHAHA dont worry squadfather you're identity wont be revealed unless the challenge is sevastase ingesting 600 cum shots while squatting and 400 while benching
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you've got a deal but those lifts have to be full range.
no problem...my form is pretty strict. squats bellow parrallel and benches allthe way down no bouncing. deads are pretty self explanatory.
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By the way...i'll be one 1 g of test per week plus deca and d-bol....just so u know i'm not natural ;)
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People actually take advice from you? ::)
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i look more like this now..not even that big.
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brutal 13 inch arms, what a monster. :o
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he changed the initial post. AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA MELTDOWN.
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he changed the initial post. AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA MELTDOWN.
;D
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By the way...i'll be one 1 g of test per week plus deca and d-bol....just so u know i'm not natural ;)
hahahaaa, didn't you claim you were natural??
also, you look like shit for these amounts of roids!
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hahahaaa, didn't you claim you were natural??
also, you look like shit for these amounts of roids!
u retard...do you think the pic is on 1g of test?...u are a true moron. i'll start a cycle soon. this pic is definetely not on roids. are u actually that stupid or just plain ignorant?
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u retard...do you think the pic is on 1g of test?...u are a true moron. i'll start a cycle soon. this pic is definetely not on roids. are u actually that stupid or just plain ignorant?
meltdown.
Go play some tennis, spermastase!
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meltdown.
Go play some tennis, spermastase!
spermatase..good one bro! ;D
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also when i post the videos i'd like pics with the others smalk talkers ...u know who you are.
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also when i post the videos i'd like pics with the others smalk talkers ...u know who you are.
go suck a dick, flowerboy.
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go suck a dick, flowerboy.
just a pic donkey...I would love to make a fool outta you as well. Actually u already are one.
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i'm not a huge fan of 6 meals a day.
We are talking about people with regular jobs little discipline who cannot pack their meals. Most of my clientele eats out. I usually have them do 3-4 meals a day. My girlfriend is trying to get thinner so beside eating lifting and cardio I'll have her on t3 and clen , but with my regulars is just eating lifting and cardio. Funny thing she knows I usually tell people 4-6 months to loose the weight but for her is just 2 months , so she asks me why? " you just have excellent genes baby" :))...thanx to my buddies clen and novotyral.
For the love of God... It's spelled "lose" not "loose". ::)
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just a pic donkey...I would love to make a fool outta you as well. Actually u already are one.
:-* :-*
Lean 300lbs.
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spermatase is fucked up descedant of ceausescu who gives his gf clen and other drugs...stupid fuck ;D
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slave boy...I wont even begin to coment on your handle.
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I know what a fucking sack of shit this guy is...... Who would pay to be trained by a guy who looks like the only excercise he does is sucking off black men
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a weakling such as yourself...striving for a body that PERHAPS will help him get laid. ;D
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This thread is pretty sad...
It's been known for some time that clenbuterol at high doses causes cardiac necrosis. This study in animals shows that doses of 1 mcg/kg BW induce apoptosis (programmed cell death) in heart tissue. Humans not uncommonly ingest this much clen. For instance, in a 220 lb (100 kg) bodybuilder this translates to 100 mcg.
J Appl Physiol. 2004 Dec 10; [Epub ahead of print] Related Articles, Links
{beta}2-Adrenergic receptor stimulation in vivo induces apoptosis in the rat heart and soleus muscle.
Burniston JG, Tan LB, Goldspink DF.
Research Institute for Sports and Exercise Sciences, Liverpool John Moores University, Liverpool, United Kingdom.
High doses of the beta2-adrenergic receptor (AR) agonist, clenbuterol, can induce necrotic myocyte death in the heart and slow-twitch skeletal muscle of the rat. However, it is not known if this agent can also induce myocyte apoptosis and whether this would occur at a lower dose than previously reported for myocyte necrosis. Male Wistar rats were given single subcutaneous injections of clenbuterol. Immunohistochemistry was used to detect myocyte specific apoptosis (detected on cryosections using a caspase 3 antibody and confirmed using annexin V, single-strand DNA labelling and TUNEL). Myocyte apoptosis was first detected at 2 h, and peaked 4 h after clenbuterol administration. The lowest dose of clenbuterol to induce cardiomyocyte apoptosis was 1 microg kg(-1), with peak apoptosis (0.35 +/- 0.005 %; P<0.05) occurring in response to 5 mg kg(-1) . In the soleus, peak apoptosis (5.8 +/- 2 %; P<0.05) was induced by the lower dose of 10 microg kg(-1). Cardiomyocyte apoptosis occurred throughout the ventricles, atria and papillary muscles. However, this damage was most abundant in the left ventricular subendocardium at a point 1.6 mm, that is, approximately one-quarter of the way from the apex towards the base. beta-AR antagonism (involving propranolol, bisoprolol or ICI 118,551) or reserpine was used to show that clenbuterol-induced myocardial apoptosis was mediated through neuromodulation of the sympathetic system and the cardiomyocyte beta1-AR, whereas in the soleus direct stimulation of the myocyte beta2-AR was involved. These data show that when administered in vivo, beta2-AR stimulation by clenbuterol is detrimental to cardiac and skeletal muscles even at low doses, by inducing apoptosis through beta1- and beta2-AR, respectively.
T3 for your girlfriend is ok. Replace the Clen with albuterol if you MUST use some kind of stimulant. Anyone dumb enough to still use clen, AT LEAST bump your taurine intake up. If you can read, I dont see how you can continue to keep your gf on clen in good conscience. There are some other effective OTC supplements that can be added to help and they are actually good for you (sesamin, green tea (50% EGCG), TTA...)
I would even favor generic meridia over Clen. The only downside of meridia is increased blood pressure. In fat people w/ poor heart health it can be dangerous. Ironically, this is exactly who gets an RX. This is why there have been some deaths due to tubbies with already poor heart health keeling over with increased BP and palpitations. For people in good shape its pretty safe (much safer than Clen or DNP). All it does is effect serotonin levels and kill your appetite. It is not a stimulant and doesnt effect the thyroid or anything. You can get a month worth for ~$45-50 (generic) pretty easily.
This knowledge is not new. There is no excuse to remain ignorant...
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spermatase is a stupid f**k as i said...he also believes unless you are on steroids you shit out 50% of all the calories you eat ::)
as for what drugs his gf needs: its none, alpine...all she needs is a caloric deficit including some fucking cardio
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spermatase is a stupid f**k as i said...he also believes unless you are on steroids you shit out 50% of all the calories you eat ::)
as for what drugs his gf needs: its none, alpine...all she needs is a caloric deficit including some fucking cardio
Shhh, don't spread the secrets.
Eastern european personal trainers don't have this knowlegde, but they are fast with drugs!
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also when i post the videos i'd like pics with the others smalk talkers ...u know who you are.
dude i dwarf you at 22 and am natural. take your g of test and other bullshit, post your bench, and shoulder press, dead or whatever now and ill own your bitch ass.
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Sev brought the topic of giving his gf T3 & clen several months ago. I thought he logically came to the conclusion to leave t3 out of the mix. If she had been dieting and exercising reasonably since then, neither would be necessary anyway ::)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=95200.0
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Sevatese is a tight pants wearing euro fag wanna be
who the fuck would ask him for advice?
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the best thing you can do to help someone lose weight would be to teach them nutrition, food timing, digestion, fat storage, exercise, and the metabolism all work. you dont have to get very detailed...but just lay out the basics of the whole system. with this knowledge; you do not have to give them a detailed diet or workout plan...they will already know how to shape their bodies themselves; it will only be a matter of self discipline and if they want the change bad enough...you can just be there for guidence and to correct any mistakes or misunderstandings they have with the system. for me; loosing weight was as simple as understanding what foods make you fat, and what foods do not. although alot of people know what is healthy; few actualy REALIZE it. another good tactic is using the phrse "what you eat in private is later visible in public" (or soemthing like that)
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i heard sevatase is trying to kill his girlfriend to collect insurance money, anyone also hear of this?
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i heard sevatase is trying to kill his girlfriend to collect insurance money, anyone also hear of this?
no, actually i think he has to get a fat chick slim in 2 months to get laid.
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hmm your proposal sounds better, yes he will stop at no risk,cost,or length to make his heavy honey slim. of course all at her risk,cost,length.
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hmm your proposal sounds better, yes he will stop at no risk,cost,or length to make his heavy honey slim. of course all at her risk,cost,length.
Yeah, that's the good thing when you're a PT.
If the client looks like shit after 3 months, you first tell him his genetics are shit. then, when he's devastated, you tell him 'there's something to get you big', and sell him roids behind the gym.
This way you have:
1. more money, beucause you get paid twice
2. satisfied clients (at least until they get gyno and hairloss)
3. more clients, because you already made some small guys big.
::) ::)
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i know this sounds nit-picky, but, to the dude who started this post..PLEASE STOP SPELLING THE WORD "LOSE" WRONG!!! ITS JUST NOT THAT DIFFICULT!!
1) LOSE:to suffer the deprivation of: to lose one's job; to lose one's life.
2) LOOSE: free or released from fastening or attachment: a loose end.
its "lose weight".."lose weight".."LOSE WEIGHT!!!"
THERE!! just had to get that out of my system....ok, carry on...
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100% guaranteed way for fat chicks to lose weight.....quit eating.
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100% guaranteed way for fat chicks to lose weight.....quit eating.
100% guaranteed way for fat chicks to lose weight... buy this magic pill I'm selling for $150/bottle. Of course, they also have to quit eating and exercise, but it's the magic pill that's making them lose the weight, dammit! ::)
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100% guaranteed way for fat chicks to lose weight... buy this magic pill I'm selling for $150/bottle. Of course, they also have to quit eating and exercise, but it's the magic pill that's making them lose the weight, dammit! ::)
Don't forget they have to bang you when they got lean.
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i'm not a huge fan of 6 meals a day.
We are talking about people with regular jobs little discipline who cannot pack their meals. Most of my clientele eats out. I usually have them do 3-4 meals a day. My girlfriend is trying to get thinner so beside eating lifting and cardio I'll have her on t3 and clen , but with my regulars is just eating lifting and cardio. Funny thing she knows I usually tell people 4-6 months to loose the weight but for her is just 2 months , so she asks me why? " you just have excellent genes baby" :))...thanx to my buddies clen and novotyral.
Nice, fuck her up on drugs... ::)
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For the love of God... It's spelled "lose" not "loose". ::)
LMAO!! didnt see this before i wrote my post! thanks, rudee. at least 2 getbiggers can spell.
this also goes out to all of you who don't know the difference between "than" and "then"
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It is very hard as I am sure you have some great programs for your clients but it's when they are not in your presence is where it is scary.
Actually, I think you got that backwards. It's hella scary being in his presence...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=122648.0;attach=138480)
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Actually, I think you got that backwards. It's hella scary being in his presence...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=122648.0;attach=138480)
ROFL...that picture would scare any man or woman and some animals
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Giving your gf t3 and clen is just stupidity, I hope for your sake you explained what they are and the potential sides, its one thing for you to take them knowing the risks, its another to give them to her and her just trusting your judgement.
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Giving your gf t3 and clen is just stupidity, I hope for your sake you explained what they are and the potential sides, its one thing for you to take them knowing the risks, its another to give them to her and her just trusting your judgement.
some personal trainer..he tells his chick to take t3/clen
umm..whatever happened to 4-6 well balanced small meals..minimal carbs and cardio 3-5 times per week
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Sev brought the topic of giving his gf T3 & clen several months ago. I thought he logically came to the conclusion to leave t3 out of the mix. If she had been dieting and exercising reasonably since then, neither would be necessary anyway ::)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=95200.0
due to work she quit after 2 weeks princess...i'm still in limbo about t3 but after discussing this extensively with her i decided at least on clen and anavar. Please throw your 2 cents in here, your input is always much apreciated.
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i know this sounds nit-picky, but, to the dude who started this post..PLEASE STOP SPELLING THE WORD "LOSE" WRONG!!! ITS JUST NOT THAT DIFFICULT!!
1) LOSE:to suffer the deprivation of: to lose one's job; to lose one's life.
2) LOOSE: free or released from fastening or attachment: a loose end.
its "lose weight".."lose weight".."LOSE WEIGHT!!!"
THERE!! just had to get that out of my system....ok, carry on...
i love to mispel ...i think i'm emulATING gh15 :)
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i love to mispel ...i think i'm emulATING gh15 :)
maken a lot of friends eh cum guzzler
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due to work she quit after 2 weeks princess...i'm still in limbo about t3 but after discussing this extensively with her i decided at least on clen and anavar. Please throw your 2 cents in here, your input is always much apreciated.
I stated my thoughts back in September. If she can't stay on a diet for more than 2 weeks, then this is not the answer. Until she demonstrates the discipline of dieting and cardio, I'd stay away from all "supplementation".
AJ and I disagree on women and T3. I don't think it should be part of the mix. Women have enough problems with hormones as it is. No sense potentially making worse. T3 will do a good job of getting rid of both fat and muscle, which like AJ said, in the long run would be a bad thing - ie: less muscle = slower metabolism. As soon as she goes off, SHE WILL REBOUND. She will, in fact, be more prone to rebound to a HIGHER fat percentage once off.
I really would strongly suggest not do the T3. Again, the rebound effects will be very unpleasant and long lasting for her (BF / LBM wise) not to mention the long term (potentially life long) hormonal issue. It's not the same for men. If you want to have her run the clen alone - fine. Don't over do it. The initial side effects (feeling) subside after a few days, but that doesn't mean it's not working. Do not keep increasing the dosage beyond 80-100. IF she keeps the diet clean and the cardio going the desired result should occur.
Oh, btw - In all the other discussion, I missed your 2 week thought. 2 weeks of anything isn't going to do much. Clen is generally run for 12 weeks - - - 2 weeks on/2 weeks off
Depending on tolerance, it might look something like this, keeping in mind she may need to ramp up to max dose a little slower.
Day 1 = 20
Day 2 = 40
Day 3 = 60
Day 4-14 = 80
off 2 weeks (use ephedra/ephedrine during this time to combat the roller-coaster)
Start back up with 80 the way AJ mentioned.
Seriously, without going into a long medical dissertation (which I am by no means an expert)
Interfering with thyroid hormone is often an underlying cause of hypothyroidism, which, in turn, is responsible for more than 100 different issues. The effects can include weight gain and fatigue that cannot be controlled by diet or exercise, dry skin, muscle weakness, memory loss, menstrual disorders, infertility, sleep disorders, PMS...the list goes on. Hormonal balance in women is very delicate (think about someone who's a rageing PMS'r or your mother / grandmother going through menopause) and we can be messed up enough without changing the balance that might already be on the edge. Estrogen and thyroid have "opposing actions" and they need to be in balance.... blah blah blah
Enough.
The bottom line: Women should not mess with it without medical supervision...
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spermatase are you gonna transform your bitch into a transsexual pig ala buffgodess?