Author Topic: The March to Socialized Medicine Starts in Obama's Porkulus Bill (Read 2534 times)

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 10, 2009, 11:20:36 AM »

No doubt that some of us who are conservative have said all of these bailouts are troublesome. Conservatives and republicans are not always the same thing.

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 10, 2009, 11:23:36 AM »

Talking about the middle class...did you know that individuals making $70,000 or more (and families making $140,000 or more) will not receive a tax cut under this plan?

So, we were lied to. Obama isn't cutting taxes for the whole middle class, just the bottom half.

Option D · « **Reply #27 on:** February 10, 2009, 11:28:08 AM »

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=261869.25

Quote from: shootfighter1 on February 04, 2009, 11:49:12 AM
I don't blame Obama so much for this pork laiden bill as I blame Pelosi and the house democrats that wrote it. I posted an article about a moderate democrat admitting the Obama administration encouraged him to dissaprove the bill because it was not as clean as he wanted it.

Big mal, Many republicans want a bill that focuses on: 1. cutting the payroll tax 2. Infrastructure only spending 3. Tax credits for home and auto purchases 4. Cutting capital gains tax to encourage business growth in the US. They also have agreed on some of the other provisions like extending unemployment benefits and temporary medicaid coverage.
This is the bill we should be passing. Not what the house passed.

Big_mal
I Like that one

Option D · « **Reply #28 on:** February 10, 2009, 11:29:13 AM »

Quote from: big_mal on February 04, 2009, 12:22:49 PM

But this is what I Think. I hate an "all one party government because bad shit can sometimes get through" But in times if crisis like this shit needs to be done and fast so im in favor. And Obama knows that but he also knows that Repub imput is important which is why he is doing it like he is. He didnt need to sit down with them before it went to the house but he did..And i hope the Senate Repubs make revisions to the bill. Look as all know, im not a party line guy. I dont defend everything my party does or anyone affiliated with my party (cough Billy, beach bum, coach and col 500). Right is right and wrong is wrong. I think a bill that isnt filled with investing in roads, bridges, schools and Housing mess and tax breaks...is not what we need. All those will immediatley get us on the right track...i think... $:-\$

No one can accuse of me being a hardliner party guy.

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 10, 2009, 11:29:26 AM »

We medical folks have to stick together!!

Whoever was in favor of the things I wrote in that message is good with me, don't matter what political label they give themselves. As we've seen, not all republicans are economic conservatives!

James · « **Reply #30 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:04:08 PM »

Meghan Kelly on Fox just kicked Spector’s butt on this. Clearly the guy had no clue what he supported.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3554741&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #31 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:12:40 PM »

Good she is smart and fairly hot too.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #32 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:36:33 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on February 10, 2009, 09:45:50 AM

It was socialist and I said so and GWB sucked and ushered this in.

That does not mean it is ok for Obama to go 100000% faster in trying to go commie on us.

This has nothing to do with Communism.

If you would have the slightest idea about the political ideology Communism, you would know such a thing.

Please explain to me how this is somehow "commie".

It may be totalitarian, or against liberal principles.

But it sure as hell ain't "commie".

tonymctones · « **Reply #33 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:56:12 PM »

Quote from: big_mal on February 10, 2009, 10:52:11 AM

NA FAG... i know that 3338 isnt a partyline guy. I have said that before. There are a few including yourself. Coach, HH, billy man. I have a post almost identical to this one. I hate party line. You always make excuces for the right. punk pussy Bitch.

you ignorant fuck, im against the bail outs, said bush was wrong for iraq, think the wire taps are unconstitutional tell me how those things go along with party lines you dumb ass...keep your mouth shut if you dont know what your talking about.

Ive called out 33386 a few times again stfu if you have no idea.

tonymctones · « **Reply #34 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:57:20 PM »

Quote from: shootfighter1 on February 10, 2009, 11:20:36 AM

No doubt that some of us who are conservative have said all of these bailouts are troublesome. Conservatives and republicans are not always the same thing.

Exactly most ppl dont understand that bush has gone against a lot of core conservative values and just bc a conservative defends him on one issue he is a party liner.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #35 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:01:31 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on February 10, 2009, 12:56:12 PM

you ignorant fuck, im against the bail outs, said bush was wrong for iraq, think the wire taps are unconstitutional tell me how those things go along with party lines you dumb ass...keep your mouth shut if you dont know what your talking about.

Ive called out 33386 a few times again stfu if you have no idea.

Call me out on what?

tonymctones · « **Reply #36 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:03:59 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on February 10, 2009, 01:01:31 PM

Call me out on what?

ive made a comment about not comparing bush and obama all the time and Hugo got his panties in a tiffy about it saying i dont say anything to you or other conservatives about it, which i never said one way or the other who it was towards just in general so i called you out just to make huggy bear feel better.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #37 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:07:45 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on February 10, 2009, 01:03:59 PM

ive made a comment about not comparing bush and obama all the time and Hugo got his panties in a tiffy about it saying i dont say anything to you or other conservatives about it, which i never said one way or the other who it was towards just in general so i called you out just to make huggy bear feel better.

I think Bush was a disaster for the GOP. He completey destroyed the brand and left all republicans with little credibitlity to attack ZERO on spending.

I give him credit on WOT and SC judges, but thats it. On immigration he was a complete wreck.

tonymctones · « **Reply #38 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:13:14 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on February 10, 2009, 01:07:45 PM

I think Bush was a disaster for the GOP. He completey destroyed the brand and left all republicans with little credibitlity to attack ZERO on spending.

I give him credit on WOT and SC judges, but thats it. On immigration he was a complete wreck.

I agree i think on the bright side though we will be able to redifine our party and actually define what we stand for as it has gotten murkey over the last decade or so. I also give him credit for the wot even though i think the war in iraq was the wrong move once your in you have to finish the job and even though i think the wire taps and such is unconstitutional i believe they are a necessary evil.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #39 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:15:41 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on February 10, 2009, 01:13:14 PM

I agree i think on the bright side though we will be able to redifine our party and actually define what we stand for as it has gotten murkey over the last decade or so. I also give him credit for the wot even though i think the war in iraq was the wrong move once your in you have to finish the job and even though i think the wire taps and such is unconstitutional i believe they are a necessary evil.

After 9/11/ he should have gone 100% full speed ahead on closing the border.

blacken700 · « **Reply #40 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:22:22 PM »

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #41 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:25:40 PM »

Quote from: blacken700 on February 10, 2009, 01:22:22 PM

That completely ignores the fact that the plan is a complete farce and a mess.

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #42 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:43:34 PM »

James, good link. Megan askes great questions about this medical bullshit slipped into to an economic stimulus package...this is completely unacceptible!
Obviously, Specter didn't read the whole bill (who could at well over 700pages) and shouldn't have voted for it, as he admits it was rushed through without proper examination. These three republicans should be replaced immediately. Voting for the bill in its current state is insulting to the American people with its blatant partisan projects under the guise of a stimulus bill in the time of economic need. Assh-les.

Option D · « **Reply #43 on:** February 10, 2009, 02:18:24 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on February 10, 2009, 12:56:12 PM

you ignorant fuck, im against the bail outs, said bush was wrong for iraq, think the wire taps are unconstitutional tell me how those things go along with party lines you dumb ass...keep your mouth shut if you dont know what your talking about.

Ive called out 33386 a few times again stfu if you have no idea.

calm your bitch ass down before i slap the taste out of your mouth. that tough shit dont phase me. you show me where you said that and ill take it back fuckface. you said i was a party line guy and in less than 5 min i posted shit that was contrary.,..so you shuth the fuck up bitch

tonymctones · « **Reply #44 on:** February 10, 2009, 02:32:05 PM »

Quote from: big_mal on February 10, 2009, 02:18:24 PM

calm your bitch ass down before i slap the taste out of your mouth. that tough shit dont phase me. you show me where you said that and ill take it back fuckface. you said i was a party line guy and in less than 5 min i posted shit that was contrary.,..so you shuth the fuck up bitch

LOL neither does your tough guy routine hoss im sure your a real bad ass

ive given you examples of me not following party lines either so you as well can shut your fucking mouth little man.

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #45 on:** February 10, 2009, 03:29:44 PM »

Quit the pissing match and get back to the issues fellas.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #46 on:** February 10, 2009, 03:47:50 PM »

Quote from: shootfighter1 on February 10, 2009, 03:29:44 PM

Quit the pissing match and get back to the issues fellas.

The issues is clear, Obama has already proven himself to be the far left marxist we said he was.

grab an umbrella · « **Reply #47 on:** February 10, 2009, 03:50:13 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on February 10, 2009, 03:47:50 PM

The issues is clear, Obama has already proven himself to be the far left marxist we said he was.

You know my dad always used to tell me to judge a man by his actions and not by his words. Well I judged Obama by his actions in congress and I was correct.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #48 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:16:53 PM »

Oddly enough, it turns out this works most of the time, who knew.

Option D · « **Reply #49 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:39:50 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on February 10, 2009, 02:32:05 PM

LOL neither does your tough guy routine hoss im sure your a real bad ass ive given you examples of me not following party lines either so you as well can shut your fucking mouth little man.

havent seen me chief..