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Title: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 02:40:17 PM
How come they never do any cool martial arts stuff in any of these fights?  ???  Are martial arts more for show hence the term "arts"?   ???  They never do anything that some drunkard at a bar could do, why is this the case?
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Post by: arce1988 on May 14, 2013, 02:41:14 PM
  A few guys actually pull off some movie stuff. Anderson Silva, Anthony Pettis, etc
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 02:42:24 PM
  A few guys actually pull off some movie stuff. Anderson Silva, Anthony Pettis, etc
Is the Steven Seagal stuff all bullshit?
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: arce1988 on May 14, 2013, 02:44:24 PM
  Most of these are what you would call bull shit. Chuck did some good stuff in movies, but he would not fight like that in real life. All of the Jackie Chan and Jet Li stuff does not work high percentage in real life.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 02:47:35 PM
  Most of these are what you would call bull shit. Chuck did some good stuff in movies, but he would not fight like that in real life. All of the Jackie Chan and Jet Li stuff does not work high percentage in real life.
I always thought the Bruce Lee stuff would work, but is that just me being wishful in that regard?  I mean his style is basically adapt to whatever is facing you and find a way to counter it.


In a real life street fight or when someone gets attacked, I never understood why people don`t fight more with what is in line with how we survived.  Biting, Scratching, Ripping ears off, clawing eyes out, using your hands as talons.  People always just just fists, such a poor defense.  I guarantee you rip someones ear off and bite their face as hard as you can, you will win every fight if you were ever attacked.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: deadpan on May 14, 2013, 02:48:00 PM
i forgot who it was but i saw one guy land a spinning roundhouse to some dude's face once in a mma fight. knocked him the fuck out cold.

and another time there was one guy that did a walljump off the fence and landed a kick on the other guy.

sorry, i don't really follow the sport that well to know all the names and fights. but yeah i'm guessing for the most part all of that stuff is for show. when i used to do karate and we'd spar, there was a set of rules to follow like any other sport or game, it wasn't like an all out brawl.

I always thought the Bruce Lee stuff would work, but is that just me being wishful in that regard?  I mean his style is basically adapt to whatever is facing you and find a way to counter it.


In a real life street fight or when someone gets attacked, I never understood why people don`t fight more with what is in line with how we survived.  Biting, Scratching, Ripping ears off, clawing eyes out, using your hands as talons.  People always just just fists, such a poor defense.  I guarantee you rip someones ear off and bite their face as hard as you can, you will win every fight if you were ever attacked.

cuz they might have AIDS. you don't want none of that shit.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: axestream on May 14, 2013, 02:48:53 PM
  Most of these are what you would call bull shit. Chuck did some good stuff in movies, but he would not fight like that in real life. All of the Jackie Chan and Jet Li stuff does not work high percentage in real life.

Lots of shit done in MMA doesn't work in "real life" situations either. Movies, sports, real life, all different situations.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: arce1988 on May 14, 2013, 02:49:38 PM
  That is possible, but I tell you... if some one bites me, I eventually win and I do so much more damage


  you do that to a real fighter, you are only going to make them more angry   and what they are going to do to you once they get the upper hand, you will wish for the rest of your life that you did not do that
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: BILL ANVIL on May 14, 2013, 02:49:56 PM
ever heard of Anderson Silva or Cung Le ?
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: Archer77 on May 14, 2013, 02:53:13 PM
Lots of shit done in MMA doesn't work in "real life" situations either. Movies, sports, real life, all different situations.

A lot of Gi work doesn't translate well.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: arce1988 on May 14, 2013, 02:54:38 PM
  Each situation will dictate


  but let me tell you     a prime Rickson was dangerous in ANY way   alley, street, gym, gi, no gi, etc
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: Archer77 on May 14, 2013, 02:56:59 PM
  Each situation will dictate


  but let me tell you     a prime Rickson was dangerous in ANY way   alley, street, gym, gi, no gi, etc

Fuck that, I would hate to meet him in an alley now!
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: arce1988 on May 14, 2013, 03:01:46 PM
  Exactly my point   :)
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Post by: MisterMagoo on May 14, 2013, 03:05:04 PM
i swear i remember an interview with bruce lee where he explained that what he does in the movies is for show and it's not what he'd do in an actual fight.
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Post by: MAXX on May 14, 2013, 03:06:13 PM
every once in a while you will see some fancy spinning kicks or whatever.



obviously harder to land a kick like that than punching and doing regular kicks hence why you rarely see it

also you see bjj all the time with armbars, heelhooks, different chokes etc.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: OTHstrong on May 14, 2013, 03:08:08 PM
I always thought the Bruce Lee stuff would work, but is that just me being wishful in that regard?  I mean his style is basically adapt to whatever is facing you and find a way to counter it.


In a real life street fight or when someone gets attacked, I never understood why people don`t fight more with what is in line with how we survived.  Biting, Scratching, Ripping ears off, clawing eyes out, using your hands as talons.  People always just just fists, such a poor defense.  I guarantee you rip someones ear off and bite their face as hard as you can, you will win every fight if you were ever attacked.
lmao, really  ???  ;D
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: MAXX on May 14, 2013, 03:12:49 PM
I always thought the Bruce Lee stuff would work, but is that just me being wishful in that regard?  I mean his style is basically adapt to whatever is facing you and find a way to counter it.


In a real life street fight or when someone gets attacked, I never understood why people don`t fight more with what is in line with how we survived.  Biting, Scratching, Ripping ears off, clawing eyes out, using your hands as talons.  People always just just fists, such a poor defense.  I guarantee you rip someones ear off and bite their face as hard as you can, you will win every fight if you were ever attacked.
you wouldn't know what hit you before you got the chance to scratch or bite though :D

anyways... biting and gauging eyes out is not allowed for obvious reasons.  ::)
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 03:12:53 PM
 That is possible, but I tell you... if some one bites me, I eventually win and I do so much more damage


  you do that to a real fighter, you are only going to make them more angry   and what they are going to do to you once they get the upper hand, you will wish for the rest of your life that you did not do that
I was saying biting as in regards to if someone attacks you, street fight, not a sanctioned fight.

If someone ripped your ears off, and bit your eye socket, I am not sure what you could do to win.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 03:13:34 PM
you wouldn't know what hit you before you got the chance to scratch or bite :D

biting and gauging eyes out is not allowed for obvious reasons.  ::)
I was saying this in regards to if someone attacks you.  Not a legal fight.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: smoothasf on May 14, 2013, 03:16:44 PM
Ufc isn't real fighting anymore, you try stumping a takedown with double under hooks when someone's butting you in the face. When head butting was allowed under hooks practically didn't exist and that's just one rule.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 14, 2013, 03:16:53 PM
In a real life street fight or when someone gets attacked, I never understood why people don`t fight more with what is in line with how we survived.  Biting, Scratching, Ripping ears off, clawing eyes out, using your hands as talons.  People always just just fists, such a poor defense.  I guarantee you rip someones ear off and bite their face as hard as you can, you will win every fight if you were ever attacked.

ehhh... not exactly. in a real knuckle-down fight, adrenaline is running so high that unless you do something to actually incapacitate the other person they might not notice until later. i've dealt with guys with broken noses, hands, teeth out and all sorts of shit that kept on fighting. bite a dude on the face and you'll hurt him like crazy but it won't end it. if anything it'll kick HIS survival instincts into high gear.

note: i ain't a fighter by a longshot, i was just a bouncer for a number of years. this is shit i've dealt with in someone ELSE's fight, not my own.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: deadpan on May 14, 2013, 03:17:17 PM
i swear i remember an interview with bruce lee where he explained that what he does in the movies is for show and it's not what he'd do in an actual fight.

i think you're thinking of jet li. he "fought" mma guys in cradle 2 the grave and then said they would probably kick his ass in an actual cage fight.

bruce lee was always an asshole about how he was supposedly a good fighter in real life from what i heard.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: smoothasf on May 14, 2013, 03:19:38 PM
You've clearly never bitten someone before ta. The slightest movement of the head and your teeth come flying out, they weren't designed for gripping in humans. You can bite a ear or something fleshy but eye sockets and skull ain't gonna happen
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: OTHstrong on May 14, 2013, 03:19:49 PM
I was saying biting as in regards to if someone attacks you, street fight, not a sanctioned fight.

If someone ripped your ears off, and bit your eye socket, I am not sure what you could do to win.
have you ever been in a fight, like the guy is just going to sit there and let you bite him. If you plan an going all out on the guy then just pic up rock and smash him.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: MAXX on May 14, 2013, 03:20:48 PM
I was saying this in regards to if someone attacks you.  Not a legal fight.
yeah but who the hell does that. would you gauge someones eyes out to win a fight?

anyways... it would probably work against a joe schmoe if you got him down on the ground. but if you started clawing or biting(not that you would get a chance to) a trained fighter he would

a.) break your arms
b.) smash your face in
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: deadpan on May 14, 2013, 03:22:15 PM
i wonder how street fights go down in asian countries like japan and china

i always picture some shenmue/yakuza type shit  ;D
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: MAXX on May 14, 2013, 03:25:47 PM
i wonder how street fights go down in asian countries like japan and china

i always picture some shenmue/yakuza type shit  ;D
like this generally

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Post by: MisterMagoo on May 14, 2013, 03:33:17 PM
i think you're thinking of jet li. he "fought" mma guys in cradle 2 the grave and then said they would probably kick his ass in an actual cage fight.

bruce lee was always an asshole about how he was supposedly a good fighter in real life from what i heard.

i remember that, but i swear bruce was talking about how he couldn't do his "usual" techniques because they don't look good on film. so he had to hollywood them up for the camera. one of those "don't try this at home because it's not real life" kind of things.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: deadpan on May 14, 2013, 03:34:42 PM
like this generally



lol looks legit
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 03:46:56 PM
yeah but who the hell does that. would you gauge someones eyes out to win a fight?

anyways... it would probably work against a joe schmoe if you got him down on the ground. but if you started clawing or biting(not that you would get a chance to) a trained fighter he would

a.) break your arms
b.) smash your face in
If someone attacked me, I would rip his ears, balls, and bite neck, eyes etc...  Similar to how a chimpanzee fights and they are EXTREMELY deadly. 
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: OneMoreRep on May 14, 2013, 03:54:15 PM
If someone attacked me, I would rip his ears, balls, and bite neck, eyes etc...  Similar to how a chimpanzee fights and they are EXTREMELY deadly.  

What I will add is that if a person is an untrained fighter and is caught in a "street" fight, a kick to the balls can go a very long way in, at the very least, allowing you to run away or even grabbing a weapon if you have no other choice. But, make sure that the kick to the balls connects, because if it doesn't....  :-\

Best advice, regardless of how skilled you are in any particular style or even overall MMA, is to simply avoid fighting as best as possible.

"1"
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: OTHstrong on May 14, 2013, 03:54:31 PM
If someone attacked me, I would rip his ears, balls, and bite neck, eyes etc...  Similar to how a chimpanzee fights and they are EXTREMELY deadly. 
That would not work, if you ever fought you would know this but obviously you have not got your feet wet, keep it that way. a chimpanzee has the grip that can crush bones 20 times that of a human, horrible comparison.

Getting the balls is impossible, you will be hit 50 times before you even get near them and to close the distance in a fight means you will end up on the floor, either him on top or you but at this point there is no need to bite or rip ears. Funny thing is you can rip someones ear completely off and he probably wouldn't even know it till the fight is over.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 03:56:38 PM
have you ever been in a fight, like the guy is just going to sit there and let you bite him. If you plan an going all out on the guy then just pic up rock and smash him.
I would say that I have been in three and I won all of them, two as a kid and one when I was around 20.  The two as a kid I won easily with a headlock.  Get someone in one of those and they give in two seconds.  Its kind of like doing a side chest pose with the head there.  You really dig your knuckles in the temple.  Too long and you will kill someone-Maybe 45 seconds or so.  You will win everytime.

The one when I was 20, it was a left hook to the face, and that ended everything-he immediately fell and was out.  I used to spar for cardio so I do know a little bit.  I am no Steve Arce, but I have Falcon Reach.

Anyways, I don`t forsee any fight in the future, but rest assured, if someone did attack me, I would rip their ears off, balls, bend fingers in directions they aren`t supposed to go, bite eyes and use my deadly headlock.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: BILL ANVIL on May 14, 2013, 03:59:20 PM
Ufc isn't real fighting anymore, you try stumping a takedown with double under hooks when someone's butting you in the face. When head butting was allowed under hooks practically didn't exist and that's just one rule.

X2

it has more in common with college wrestling than real fighting
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Post by: OTHstrong on May 14, 2013, 04:02:10 PM
I would say that I have been in three and I won all of them, two as a kid and one when I was around 20.  The two as a kid I won easily with a headlock.  Get someone in one of those and they give in two seconds.  Its kind of like doing a side chest pose with the head there.  You really dig your knuckles in the temple.  Too long and you will kill someone-Maybe 45 seconds or so.  You will win everytime.

The one when I was 20, it was a left hook to the face, and that ended everything-he immediately fell and was out.  I used to spar for cardio so I do know a little bit.  I am no Steve Arce, but I have Falcon Reach.

Anyways, I don`t forsee any fight in the future, but rest assured, if someone did attack me, I would rip their ears off, balls, bend fingers in directions they aren`t supposed to go, bite eyes and use my deadly headlock.
lmao, headlocks are awesome bro and they work great and maybe the fingers if you get a good grip you can twist them up.
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 04:02:50 PM
I think biting is probably the most effective way to win a fight.  How do you lure someone in for the bite?  Easy, just start running and see if they chase you.  Once they pursue, you run for a bit then let them NEARLY catch you.  Then, when they are right near you, really close, turn and run toward them and grab them.  Then start biting, ripping and tearing.  You will win every single time.
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Post by: ukjeff on May 14, 2013, 04:03:08 PM
Quote
Best advice, regardless of how skilled you are in any particular style or even overall MMA, is to simply avoid fighting as best as possible.
Exactly, talk it out like adults, only idiots resort to brawling in the street.
Who wants to be waking up in the morning minus teeth and scared for life, or worse not waking up at all.
Other side of the coin is you wake up in a police cell on a manslaughter charge.
Some people in this thread need to grow the fuck up.
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Post by: OTHstrong on May 14, 2013, 04:06:16 PM
Exactly, talk it out like adults, only idiots resort to brawling in the street.
Who wants to be waking up in the morning minus teeth and scared for life, or worse not waking up at all.
Other side of the coin is you wake up in a police cell on a manslaughter charge.
Some people in this thread need to grow the fuck up.
Obviously, TA is not a dummy, we are just discussing different scenarios, interesting thread, don't high jack it with your negativity please
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: ukjeff on May 14, 2013, 04:07:36 PM
Negativity?
Why did you even need to say anything about me at all?
And you wonder why you get targeted.   ::)
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 04:09:43 PM
On the headlock, not only do you dig your knuckles in the temple, you jerk the neck like so- pretend you are doing a side chest pose then jerk your elbow and forearm violently forward.  This will ruin anyones day.



Also, never underestimate hair pulling.  Wherever the hair goes, the head will follow.  A TON of nerve endings on the head.  Pull the hair, then you can grab the ears in order to rip them off.
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Post by: irishdave on May 14, 2013, 04:13:29 PM
If someone attacked me, I would rip his ears, balls, and bite neck, eyes etc...  Similar to how a chimpanzee fights and they are EXTREMELY deadly. 

You've obviously never been in a real fight
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 04:19:33 PM
You've obviously never been in a real fight
IrishDave,

I would destroy you and leave you without a face.  You would be flailing your arms about like a broken windmill while I am making steak tartare out of your cheeks and nose.  You would do nothing but howl in pain and succumb to the fact that the last thing you will see before you go permanently blind is an icy death claw plucking your eyeball out.  I fight to win. You fight to impress your friends.
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 04:24:16 PM
You've obviously never been in a real fight
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Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: doison on May 14, 2013, 04:25:08 PM
I think biting is probably the most effective way to win a fight.  How do you lure someone in for the bite?  Easy, just start running and see if they chase you.  Once they pursue, you run for a bit then let them NEARLY catch you.  Then, when they are right near you, really close, turn and run toward them and grab them.  Then start biting, ripping and tearing.  You will win every single time.

Saw a fight where one guy tried biting the other guy...looked like he was trying to bite his neck.  You could tell the bite was in deep because the guy being bit suddenly spazzed-the-fuck-out in a "holy shit that's a sharp pain" seizure-like movement.

Unfortunately for the guy doing the biting, that seizure-like movement led to them dropping to the ground...biting guy underneath. He went out cold when his head hit the pavement and he lost half his teeth (via collar bone?) in the process.  


The guy getting bit was bleeding...but otherwise the bite did not work out. 

I'm pretty sure the biting guy took a few kicks to the head after he was out.  It as an ugly situation...I heard he was out for a while afterwards. 
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Post by: Option D on May 14, 2013, 04:31:18 PM
i wonder how street fights go down in asian countries like japan and china

i always picture some shenmue/yakuza type shit  ;D
yeah i thought the same thing.. spinning flop kicks all over the place
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Post by: Option D on May 14, 2013, 04:32:11 PM
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 04:32:29 PM
Saw a fight where one guy tried biting the other guy...looked like he was trying to bite his neck.  You could tell the bite was in deep because the guy being bit suddenly spazzed-the-fuck-out in a "holy shit that's a sharp pain" seizure-like movement.

Unfortunately for the guy doing the biting, that seizure-like movement led to them dropping to the ground...biting guy underneath. He went out cold when his head hit the pavement and he lost half his teeth (via collar bone?) in the process.  


The guy getting bit was bleeding...but otherwise the bite did not work out. 

I'm pretty sure the biting guy took a few kicks to the head after he was out.  It as an ugly situation...I heard he was out for a while afterwards. 
Should have capitalized off the initial bite and started tearing ears off, grabbing throat and windpipe and maybe try a tearing motion with the teeth to pull off as much as possible.  He probably was shocked when he bit and the man went down so easily.  It would take some practice, but getting the right bite and then capitalizing would be key here.

Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 04:34:35 PM
Also, biting the upper arm area and hands are good too.  Ever been lightly bitten by a dog in play and your whole hand goes numb?  Think of that but 1000 times worse as you bear down, trying to crunch bone.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: doison on May 14, 2013, 04:37:37 PM
Should have capitalized off the initial bite and started tearing ears off, grabbing throat and windpipe and maybe try a tearing motion with the teeth to pull off as much as possible.  He probably was shocked when he bit and the man went down so easily.  It would take some practice, but getting the right bite and then capitalizing would be key here.



It was about half a second, tops.  Guy bit down, other guy spasms...grabs guys head and jerks, they fall. 

The bite certainly worked as far as causing the other guy to shift his entire focus to it, but unfortunately that led to hitting the back of his head on the pavement and losing teeth. 

Actually...I think the guy was tearing with his teeth.  I think that's why they both fell back onto the guy biting--he was sort of ripping his head back (or maybe the guy being bitten was trying to push his head away...it was a long time ago...1999 I think).
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Post by: MAXX on May 14, 2013, 04:38:53 PM
lmao  ;D
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Post by: Archer77 on May 14, 2013, 04:40:49 PM
Out of all land animals chimps are the scariest.  As TA mentioned, chimps will eat your face and rip of your junk.  Chimps also have incredible strength.  I'm sure they could bench 225 for 55 and they are smarter than cswol too.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: doison on May 14, 2013, 04:49:48 PM
Also, biting the upper arm area and hands are good too.  Ever been lightly bitten by a dog in play and your whole hand goes numb?  Think of that but 1000 times worse as you bear down, trying to crunch bone.

The only problem with trying to hurt the guy is that pain doesn't usually lead to a guy calling "uncle" to stop the fight.

You said yourself how your last fight ended...someone lands a (usually lucky) haymaker and the other guy gets knocked out.  That's how pretty much every fight I've ever seen has ended.  

You can try hurting the other guy all day, but the fight is going to end like every other drunken windmill-punching fight....someone lands a wild punch and other guy goes to sleep, or some asshole friend of one of the fighters sucker punches the other guy (and then does that "I'm a tough guy" dance with both arms locked straight down at his sides while hopping around and yelling "what's up now bitch?!?" ...everyone knows the sucker-punch tough guy dance).


Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: deadpan on May 14, 2013, 04:56:47 PM
Out of all land animals chimps are the scariest.  As TA mentioned, chimps will eat your face and rip of your junk.  Chimps also have incredible strength.  I'm sure they could bench 225 for 55 and they are smarter than cswol too.

stronger than that, i've heard of crazy shit like them lifting 450 lbs with one arm easily

all primates are crazy strong

hell most animals are crazy strong. a wolf can bite through human bones without breaking a sweat
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Post by: Archer77 on May 14, 2013, 04:57:56 PM
The only problem with trying to hurt the guy is that pain doesn't usually lead to a guy calling "uncle" to stop the fight.

You said yourself how your last fight ended...someone lands a (usually lucky) haymaker and the other guy gets knocked out.  That's how pretty much every fight I've ever seen has ended.  

You can try hurting the other guy all day, but the fight is going to end like every other drunken windmill-punching fight....someone lands a wild punch and other guy goes to sleep, or some asshole friend of one of the fighters sucker punches the other guy (and then does that "I'm a tough guy" dance with both arms locked straight down at his sides while hopping around and yelling "what's up now bitch?!?" ...everyone knows the sucker-punch tough guy dance).




I disagree.  You hurt a guy who has never been really hurt and watch his nervous system sound the alarm. You can see the confidence drain from their face.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 05:00:00 PM
The only problem with trying to hurt the guy is that pain doesn't usually lead to a guy calling "uncle" to stop the fight.

You said yourself how your last fight ended...someone lands a (usually lucky) haymaker and the other guy gets knocked out.  That's how pretty much every fight I've ever seen has ended.  

You can try hurting the other guy all day, but the fight is going to end like every other drunken windmill-punching fight....someone lands a wild punch and other guy goes to sleep, or some asshole friend of one of the fighters sucker punches the other guy (and then does that "I'm a tough guy" dance with both arms locked straight down at his sides while hopping around and yelling "what's up now bitch?!?" ...everyone knows the sucker-punch tough guy dance).



If I ever get attacked and don`t have a weapon, my goal is to confuse the opponent first.  Maybe run around him in circles or finding something like a car and running around it-you know run around the car, and when he chases keep running around the car.  Pretty soon he won`t know what is going on and then go you in for the kill.  The bite, seeking to maim as badly as possible and then the tearing off of bodyparts with hands and teeth.  Don`t worry about punching, but instead use the point of your elbows and drive it as deep in you can, looking for an opportunity to bite again.  Fingers can be cleanly bitten off if you get a hold of one of those. Also use your hand like a knife-draw the tips of your fingers inward and try to sever the windpipe if possible in a knife like motion.  We are fighting to win here, kill.  Not fighting to impress friends or anyone.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: arce1988 on May 14, 2013, 05:04:51 PM
  Easy to say what you will and will not do if you are not proven in fire of combat. I am, and even I do not brag about how I will eat a person to death.
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 05:09:19 PM
  Easy to say what you will and will not do if you are not proven in fire of combat. I am, and even I do not brag about how I will eat a person to death.
Hey if I had to fight you my friend, I would start running first.  You have a problem with your ankle and therefore I know you could not catch me.  I would get a good distance from you, and watch you struggle to keep up.  Then I would probably grab things and start throwing them at you.  Run some more.  Throw some more things at you.  Rocks, stuff like that.  Eventually I will hit you.  Then, when I do enough damage with rocks, sticks, whatever is around, I close in for the bite and the tearing off of your ears and hair.  Thats how I would fight you.
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Post by: hardgainerj on May 14, 2013, 05:11:44 PM
  A few guys actually pull off some movie stuff. Anderson Silva
uh like what?
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Post by: Archer77 on May 14, 2013, 05:12:51 PM
Hey if I had to fight you my friend, I would start running first.  You have a problem with your ankle and therefore I know you could not catch me.  I would get a good distance from you, and watch you struggle to keep up.  Then I would probably grab things and start throwing them at you.  Run some more.  Throw some more things at you.  Rocks, stuff like that.  Eventually I will hit you.  Then, when I do enough damage with rocks, sticks, whatever is around, I close in for the bite and the tearing off of your ears and hair.  Thats how I would fight you.

If I fought you I'd wear goggles and a cup.
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 05:13:01 PM
Its all about using your environment.  Look at this Zebra destroying this Lion.  I love Zebras!  (I don`t like any feline animals really)


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Post by: OTHstrong on May 14, 2013, 05:16:29 PM
stronger than that, i've heard of crazy shit like them lifting 450 lbs with one arm easily

all primates are crazy strong

hell most animals are crazy strong. a wolf can bite through human bones without breaking a sweat
there was one silver back at a zoo who use to do one arm chin ups like nothing and his weight was like 360lb or something like that, just imagine how much power that is.
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 05:16:35 PM
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 05:19:24 PM
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Post by: Chadwick The Beta on May 14, 2013, 05:20:24 PM


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Post by: dr.chimps on May 14, 2013, 05:23:53 PM
Hey if I had to fight you my friend, I would start running first.  You have a problem with your ankle and therefore I know you could not catch me.  I would get a good distance from you, and watch you struggle to keep up.  Then I would probably grab things and start throwing them at you.  Run some more.  Throw some more things at you.  Rocks, stuff like that.  Eventually I will hit you.  Then, when I do enough damage with rocks, sticks, whatever is around, I close in for the bite and the tearing off of your ears and hair.  Thats how I would fight you.
Maybe lead him into the Fire Swamp?
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Post by: OTHstrong on May 14, 2013, 05:24:38 PM
Its all about using your environment.  Look at this Zebra destroying this Lion.  I love Zebras!  (I don`t like any feline animals really)



that was awesome, the lion gassed himself out cause he was struggling to hold himself out of the water.
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Post by: OneMoreRep on May 14, 2013, 05:25:33 PM
Maybe lead him into the Fire Swamp?

It could be dangerous though...

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Post by: arce1988 on May 14, 2013, 05:26:37 PM
  Some times you eat the bear ...
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Post by: OTHstrong on May 14, 2013, 05:27:20 PM
It could be dangerous though...

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lmao, I use to love that movie, The princess bride with Andre the giant
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Post by: arce1988 on May 14, 2013, 05:27:46 PM
  True. I have a broken right ankle. It is almost better though. No need to worry though... I like you and I have no intention to fight you


 
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Post by: Chadwick The Beta on May 14, 2013, 05:29:27 PM
  Some times you eat the bear ...

in russia, bear eats you!!
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Post by: OneMoreRep on May 14, 2013, 05:34:35 PM
lmao, I use to love that movie, The princess bride with Andre the giant

I loved Mike Mentzer in it, I thought he played a great Inigo Montoya!

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Post by: BILL ANVIL on May 14, 2013, 05:36:23 PM
lot of low down dirty ass fighters on here, this isnt jumanji for fuck sakes people.
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Post by: OTHstrong on May 14, 2013, 05:37:47 PM
I loved Mike Mentzer in it, I thought he played a great Inigo Montoya!

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:D
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Post by: arce1988 on May 14, 2013, 05:38:43 PM
 HELLO! My name is Inigo Montoya! You killed my father! Prepare to die! .
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 05:42:42 PM
 True. I have a broken right ankle. It is almost better though. No need to worry though... I like you and I have no intention to fight you


 
Same here.  I just know that I could NEVER let you get your hands on me, hence my running away tactic.  If you got your hands on me or within a distance that you could get to me without me injuring you badly first (rocks, sticks etc) then it would over quickly and I wouldn`t be waking up any time soon.  I`d have to be like a hyena here, looking for opportunity and never letting you close enough.

I would NEVER fight "fair" whatever that means.  The only reason I would fight is to defend myself and I would be looking to kill any way possible.
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Post by: arce1988 on May 14, 2013, 05:44:46 PM
  Got you. At least you have the will to survive at all costs. I like that. Fight to the death.
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Post by: arce1988 on May 14, 2013, 05:47:21 PM
"Sometimes you eat the bar... and sometimes... well, he eats you"


Love this movie   :D ;D
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Post by: Danny-Boy on May 14, 2013, 05:47:40 PM
I always thought the Bruce Lee stuff would work, but is that just me being wishful in that regard?  I mean his style is basically adapt to whatever is facing you and find a way to counter it.


In a real life street fight or when someone gets attacked, I never understood why people don`t fight more with what is in line with how we survived.  Biting, Scratching, Ripping ears off, clawing eyes out, using your hands as talons.  People always just just fists, such a poor defense.  I guarantee you rip someones ear off and bite their face as hard as you can, you will win every fight if you were ever attacked.


Unfortunately, a lot of the small skillful maneuvers ie/ certain kali fighting techniques are not allowed in the UFC... certain wrist locks , arm twists, etc..  limits effective usage of instincts... which are seen in many of these movies and street fights.. these allow for better adaptive transitions in fights  not seen in MMA competitions  .. which is why u dont see many broken arms n wrists
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 05:47:51 PM
lot of low down dirty ass fighters on here, this isnt jumanji for fuck sakes people.
To me it is.  If I have to defend myself from an attack, the person better be prepared to die right then and there and face serious injury, bodily harm-permanent damage.  There is no such thing as "dirty" fighting when someone attacks you.  If I didn`t have a gun on me, I would run to my car, get in it and floor it in your direction.  If there is no car, then I do the run and throw things routine, or bite/maim/tear, break as many small bones as possible, bite through as much flesh as I can.  

To get yourself into that mindset, don`t picture yourself as some fighter, picture yourself as nature and leave the cultural norms of "fighting" behind.
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Post by: Submissionfytr on May 14, 2013, 05:49:53 PM
Google "Pettis Showtime Kick" and "Uriah Hall spinning hook kick" for cool stand up highlight moves. Likewise search "Andre Glavao v. Alessio armbar" and "Imanari highlights" for insane joint locks done in MMA.
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 05:50:23 PM
  Got you. At least you have the will to survive at all costs. I like that. Fight to the death.
Yes!

In a legal fight, you would destroy me.  I probably couldn`t even get my guard up quick enough.
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Post by: arce1988 on May 14, 2013, 05:50:40 PM
 imanari has super sick leg subs
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Post by: arce1988 on May 14, 2013, 05:51:45 PM
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 05:55:35 PM
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That was pretty cool!  I notice there really was no way of him defending that given the momentum he was traveling before the kick.  How risky is that maneuver?
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Post by: oldtimer1 on May 14, 2013, 05:57:13 PM
Some of you guys seriously have to roll on the mats because you have no clue. The same thing goes for someone that has never been in the boxing ring. The magic disabler you would pull in your mind would get a trained fighter mad to the point of snapping joints and holding chokes until you are completely out. Then the fun would begin.
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 05:57:52 PM
lot of low down dirty ass fighters on here, this isnt jumanji for fuck sakes people.
You wouldn`t bite someones throat if you had to?
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Post by: Radical Plato on May 14, 2013, 05:58:54 PM
i forgot who it was but i saw one guy land a spinning roundhouse to some dude's face once in a mma fight. knocked him the fuck out cold.

and another time there was one guy that did a walljump off the fence and landed a kick on the other guy.

sorry, i don't really follow the sport that well to know all the names and fights. but yeah i'm guessing for the most part all of that stuff is for show. when i used to do karate and we'd spar, there was a set of rules to follow like any other sport or game, it wasn't like an all out brawl.

cuz they might have AIDS. you don't want none of that shit.
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 05:59:56 PM
Some of you guys seriously have to roll on the mats because you have no clue. The same thing goes for someone that has never been in the boxing ring. The magic disabler you would pull in your mind would get a trained fighter mad to the point of snapping joints and holding chokes until you are completely out. Then the fun would begin.
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What about this though?

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Post by: arce1988 on May 14, 2013, 06:05:58 PM
  Super risky     some guys are freak athletes that can pull off super crazy moves and land them    but since they are very low %, I would advise most not to try them   just leave that to silva, pettis, etc
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 06:18:55 PM
  Super risky     some guys are freak athletes that can pull off super crazy moves and land them    but since they are very low %, I would advise most not to try them   just leave that to silva, pettis, etc
Steve, how did you first get into martial arts?  I had always been interested in boxing and things.  Jack Dempsey was one of my grandfathers best friends as was Barney Ross, the great Jewish fighter.  I just recently found a picture of my Grandfather and Barney Ross together at his house.

Barney Ross was an interesting fellow and true American hero.

Check this out:

World War II [edit]

Barney Ross
Allegiance   United States of America
Service/branch   United States Marine Corps
Battles/wars   World War II — Battle of Guadalcanal
Awards   Silver Star

In retirement in his early thirties, Ross enlisted in the United States Marine Corps to fight in World War II. The Marines wanted to keep him stateside and use his celebrity status to boost morale. Most of the athletes of the era like Heavyweight Champion Jack Dempsey had ceremonial roles in the military, but Ross insisted on fighting for his country.
Before he was to go overseas, Ross decked a non-com who had made an anti-Semitic remark. He was to be court martialed at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot, San Diego. The other board members wanted to throw the book at Ross, but Captain Berthol E. Davis, who was also Jewish and knew of Ross' achievements, convinced the rest of the board to allow Ross to go overseas and avoid punishment. So, he was sent to the Pacific theater.

He was sent to Guadalcanal in the South Pacific. One night, he and three other comrades were trapped under enemy fire. All four were wounded; Ross was the only one able to fight. Ross gathered his comrades' rifles and grenades and single-handedly fought nearly two dozen Japanese soldiers over an entire night, killing them all by morning. Two of the Marines died, but he carried the third on his shoulders to safety; the other man weighed 230 lb (104 kg) compared to Ross' 140 lb (64 kg). Ross was awarded America's third highest military honor, the Silver Star, as well as a Presidential Citation. As one of America's greatest "celebrity" war heroes, he was honored by President Roosevelt in a Rose Garden ceremony.

During his time in Guadalcanal, Ross began a lifelong friendship with the famous Father Frederic Gehring, a wartime chaplain who wrote regular correspondences for Reader's Digest magazine. Gehring considered Ross a national treasure who defied logic when it came to bravery and the defense of principle. Ross was the only one capable of playing a temperamental organ on the tropical island. On Christmas Eve, before Barney and his Marines were to go to battle, Gehring asked him to learn "Silent Night" and other Christmas songs for the troops. After playing them Gehring, they asked Ross to play a Jewish song. Ross played "My Yiddishe Momma," about a child's love for his self-sacrificing mother. Many of the Marines knew the melody of the song because Ross always had it played when he entered the ring. When the Marines heard the lyrics, newspaper reports say they were all in tears.

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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 06:19:48 PM
At a time—the late 1920s and '30s—when rising Nazi leader Adolf Hitler was using propaganda to spread his virulently anti-Jewish philosophy, Ross was seen by American Jews as one of their greatest advocates. He represented the concept of Jews finally fighting back. Idolized and respected by all Americans, Ross showed that Jews could thrive in their new country. He made his stand against Hitler and Nazi Germany a public one. He knew that by winning boxing matches, he was displaying a new kind of strength for Jews. He also understood that Americans loved their sports heroes and if Jews wanted to be embraced in the U.S. they would have to assume such places in society. So even though Ross had lost faith in religion, he openly embraced his role as a leader of his oppressed people.
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Post by: arce1988 on May 14, 2013, 06:22:29 PM
  Nice info


  I started at age four     I was lucky that Chuck Norris still had studios   my mom took me to him and signed me up   he taught us tang soo do tae kwon do judo and boxing   
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Post by: Seven Copper Coins on May 14, 2013, 06:26:51 PM
You better make sure you win dude. You start going for someones eyes,ears,balls etc and you aren't successful, they are going to beat you to a pulp. I know i would. Trying to maim someone isn't too cool.That's in a head-up fight where both parties are willing combatants.

If a prowler or lunatic attacks you for no reason...different story..do whatever it takes.

Myself I avoid fighting at all costs....what's that? My mother is a whore? Well i'll be damned, she is a whore...enjoy your night.
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Post by: arce1988 on May 14, 2013, 06:29:00 PM
  That is my point. If some one bites me, goes for my eyes, etc    when I finally get the upper hand, I will arm bar both elbows, I will knee bar both knees, and that is just the start   
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 06:36:03 PM
I am a very likable fellow and do not want trouble from anyone so I figure if someone is going to fight or attack me, they want to kill me as I would never go out of my way to start a fight.  Therefore I will be biting at first opportunity if given.  I know it may be to the death, (I have thought about this a lot) but the other person most likely doesn`t think that.  He may think its just fist fight.  Its not going to be a fist fight.  Its going to be bloody and its going to be bad.  Someone will have to wear a mask the rest of their life as their seeing eye dog guides them to the special hearing aid store to get a Cochlear Implant that only works off of vibrations and is placed where the ears once were.  :D
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Post by: Seven Copper Coins on May 14, 2013, 06:40:20 PM
I am a very likable fellow and do not want trouble from anyone so I figure if someone is going to fight or attack me, they want to kill me as I would never go out of my way to start a fight.  Therefore I will be biting at first opportunity if given.  I know it may be to the death, (I have thought about this a lot) but the other person most likely doesn`t think that.  He may think its just fist fight.  Its not going to be a fist fight.  Its going to be bloody and its going to be bad.  Someone will have to wear a mask the rest of their life as their seeing eye dog guides them to the special hearing aid store to get a Cochlear Implant that only works off of vibrations and is placed where the ears once were.  :D

Unless of course he actually fights back, blasts you in the head and knocks you the fuck out. I guess i didn't realize you were an unbeatable death machine at 170 pounds.
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2013, 06:47:14 PM
Unless of course he actually fights back, blasts you in the head and knocks you the fuck out. I guess i didn't realize you were an unbeatable death machine at 170 pounds.
Certainly not unbeatable, but it would take a long time for someone to actually get a hold of me.  I would not "square up". I would run around, use my environment, maybe find something I could use as a spear point and charge at them with the points heading straight for their torso.  Once they are subdued enough, the blinding occurs.  I`d want them to live with only one eye or none so they will rue the day they decided to attack.
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Post by: deadpan on May 14, 2013, 08:30:51 PM
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dayum you took the exact images out of my mind, nice google-fu lol
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Post by: randy841 on May 14, 2013, 08:52:56 PM
IrishDave,

I would destroy you and leave you without a face.  You would be flailing your arms about like a broken windmill while I am making steak tartare out of your cheeks and nose.  You would do nothing but howl in pain and succumb to the fact that the last thing you will see before you go permanently blind is an icy death claw plucking your eyeball out.  I fight to win. You fight to impress your friends.

Hey Nazi worshipper your insecurities are clearly showing through.

You're not kidding anyone, we've all seen your pictures - your girlfriend could kick your ass.

Now shut the fuck up and stop telling everyone how big your dick is.
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Post by: Radical Plato on May 14, 2013, 09:06:37 PM
dayum you took the exact images out of my mind, nice google-fu lol
I have been watching MMA for a long time, I also love the Inside MMA show. The KO roundhouse by Uriah Hall is from the most recent 'Ultimate Fighter' series.  Dana White was raving about him being the next big thing, but he failed to win the show, he made the final but got beaten by a tough gritty young wrestler by the name of Kelvin Gastelum
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Post by: chaos on May 14, 2013, 09:09:26 PM
Everything changes when you get punched in the face.
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Post by: jude2 on May 14, 2013, 09:18:52 PM
I have been watching MMA for a long time, I also love the Inside MMA show. The KO roundhouse by Uriah Hall is from the most recent 'Ultimate Fighter' series.  Dana White was raving about him being the next big thing, but he failed to win the show, he made the final but got beaten by a tough gritty young wrestler by the name of Kelvin Gastelum
Thats why a good ground guy will win most fights, because they go to the ground.
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Post by: Shockwave on May 14, 2013, 09:39:55 PM
Everything changes when you get punched in the face.
I am not very fond of getting punched in the sternum myself.
Face I can handle. Sternum = no bueno.
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Post by: Seven Copper Coins on May 14, 2013, 10:35:05 PM
Everything changes when you get punched in the face.

A dear friend of mine....who was a supreme badass and would rip my heart out..used to say to everyone who talked shit to him about how tough they were, or wanted a piece of him....."it's not gonna go the way you think it's gonna go."
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 15, 2013, 05:44:05 AM
Hey Nazi worshipper your insecurities are clearly showing through.

You're not kidding anyone, we've all seen your pictures - your girlfriend could kick your ass.

Now shut the fuck up and stop telling everyone how big your dick is.
???
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 15, 2013, 05:46:45 AM
A dear friend of mine....who was a supreme badass and would rip my heart out..used to say to everyone who talked shit to him about how tough they were, or wanted a piece of him....."it's not gonna go the way you think it's gonna go."
Thats EXACTLY my contention. 
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Post by: OneMoreRep on May 15, 2013, 06:20:44 AM
How come they never do any cool martial arts stuff in any of these fights?

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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 15, 2013, 06:31:04 AM
How come they never do any cool martial arts stuff in any of these fights?  ???  Are martial arts more for show hence the term "arts"?   ???  They never do anything that some drunkard at a bar could do, why is this the case?

Becauase TMA is not real fighting - hope that helps
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Post by: Seven Copper Coins on May 15, 2013, 06:43:51 AM
Thats EXACTLY my contention.  

It goes both ways my friend. In your scenario, you win. All Adonising aside.....I avoid fighting because you never know who you're fucking with. it's all hypothetical, but what if some drunk dude, who was only trying to "kick your Ass"  to impress hia buddies...now realizes you are intent on trying to permanently disfigure his face (something that freaks people out by the way, our reflexes defending our face are much quicker, it's instinctive)...but anyway now he realizes the gravity of the situation, and pulls out a knife and stabs you to death as you are chewing on his nose.

Best to avoid fights unless you literally have no choice, nothing good comes of them. You win, and you are most likely looking at charges...and with your tactics they will be a lot more serious...assault with the intent to inflict grevious bodily harm is jail time brother, a regular fight, where both parties walk away with largely superficial injuries....and you are looking at an anger management class and a fine. ...or you lose, and you could have your face fucked up for life.  I am sure you are just like me...and love your face just the way it is.
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Post by: The True Adonis on May 15, 2013, 07:07:40 AM
It goes both ways my friend. In your scenario, you win. All Adonising aside.....I avoid fighting because you never know who you're fucking with. it's all hypothetical, but what if some drunk dude, who was only trying to "kick your Ass"  to impress hia buddies...now realizes you are intent on trying to permanently disfigure his face (something that freaks people out by the way, our reflexes defending our face are much quicker, it's instinctive)...but anyway now he realizes the gravity of the situation, and pulls out a knife and stabs you to death as you are chewing on his nose.

Best to avoid fights unless you literally have no choice, nothing good comes of them. You win, and you are most likely looking at charges...and with your tactics they will be a lot more serious...assault with the intent to inflict grevious bodily harm is jail time brother, a regular fight, where both parties walk away with largely superficial injuries....and you are looking at an anger management class and a fine. ...or you lose, and you could have your face fucked up for life.  I am sure you are just like me...and love your face just the way it is.
I agree and I can`t forsee any situation where I will need to use my deadly bites.  Anyone I meet usually really, really likes me.  I ask questions and never go on about myself.  People like to go on about themselves and if you ask the questions and listen, they will do anything for you.
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Post by: ukjeff on May 15, 2013, 07:11:33 AM
"I remember this one time, in band camp...."
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Post by: no one on May 15, 2013, 07:13:26 AM

just an observation but i think MMA today has more athletes in it than legit tough guys. guys who you can see are just tough guys would be guys like randy couture, liddel, dan henderson comes to mind, w silva etc.

i think todays crop of mma guys are just athletes who train to fight, and not guys who had any kind of sand at the beginning.

like GSP is not a tough guy. benson henderson is not a tough guy. uriah faber is not a tough guy. i could go on. great athletes and fighters but not legit tough guys
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Post by: Seven Copper Coins on May 15, 2013, 07:17:26 AM
I agree and I can`t forsee any situation where I will need to use my deadly bites.  Anyone I meet usually really, really likes me.  I ask questions and never go on about myself.  People like to go on about themselves and if you ask the questions and listen, they will do anything for you.


You and I are the same in a lot of respects. We both have unique personalities but know how to use them to our advantage perfectly. I experience the same thing....I talk to people and I become their therapist....they are telling me deep shit completely unprompted. And most people like me a lot, those who don't hate my guts...no middle ground.
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Post by: dr.chimps on May 15, 2013, 07:21:32 AM
I agree and I can`t forsee any situation where I will need to use my deadly bites.  Anyone I meet usually really, really likes me.  I ask questions and never go on about myself.  People like to go on about themselves and if you ask the questions and listen, they will do anything for you.
;D
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Post by: Henda on May 15, 2013, 07:26:43 AM
Fighting is just not worth it these days since nobody can let it lie and if beaten fairly will just come back at you with a knife or whatever.
Just last week a friend of mine was ambushed outside his house by some little bitch who he had given a good hiding a few weeks beforehand. He ended up having hus head stapled back togetherand a 6 hour op to reattach his fingers after being hit witha mechette.

Just not worth it.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: bigmc on May 15, 2013, 07:53:26 AM
"I remember this one time, in band camp...."

hi mike

i take it running away is your prefered style of choice
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: BILL ANVIL on May 15, 2013, 08:42:45 AM
just an observation but i think MMA today has more athletes in it than legit tough guys. guys who you can see are just tough guys would be guys like randy couture, liddel, dan henderson comes to mind, w silva etc.

i think todays crop of mma guys are just athletes who train to fight, and not guys who had any kind of sand at the beginning.

like GSP is not a tough guy. benson henderson is not a tough guy. uriah faber is not a tough guy. i could go on. great athletes and fighters but not legit tough guys

this.

but you're going to get alot of flack for this post.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: Dr.Ill on May 15, 2013, 09:34:01 AM
just an observation but i think MMA today has more athletes in it than legit tough guys. guys who you can see are just tough guys would be guys like randy couture, liddel, dan henderson comes to mind, w silva etc.

i think todays crop of mma guys are just athletes who train to fight, and not guys who had any kind of sand at the beginning.

like GSP is not a tough guy. benson henderson is not a tough guy. uriah faber is not a tough guy. i could go on. great athletes and fighters but not legit tough guys

Could you define tough guy?  GSP beat Matt Hughes, and I would consider him a tough guy?  GSP has learned to fight without taking too much punishment, like Anderson Silva.  The fellows you mentioned, with the styles in which they fight, take a ton of punishment with their styles?  Randy Coulture is a beast though and arguably one of the best to ever fight!  Do not want to sound like I am taking anything away from any of the fighters you mentioned, they are all Hall of Famers for sure but GSP is one tough SOB as well.  Benson has not proven himself yet, still a ton of time for him to prove his place among the elite.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: the trainer on May 15, 2013, 09:39:00 AM
I always thought the Bruce Lee stuff would work, but is that just me being wishful in that regard?  I mean his style is basically adapt to whatever is facing you and find a way to counter it.


In a real life street fight or when someone gets attacked, I never understood why people don`t fight more with what is in line with how we survived.  Biting, Scratching, Ripping ears off, clawing eyes out, using your hands as talons.  People always just just fists, such a poor defense.  I guarantee you rip someones ear off and bite their face as hard as you can, you will win every fight if you were ever attacked.

Got to the thread late so in other words you would fight like a female bitch, cant say i am shocked to hear that.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: ukjeff on May 15, 2013, 09:41:12 AM
hi mike

i take it running away is your prefered style of choice

Running away?
On the contrary my dear Mick.  ;D
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: The True Adonis on May 15, 2013, 09:47:23 AM
Got to the thread late so in other words you would fight like a female bitch, cant say i am shocked to hear that.
???
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: bigmc on May 15, 2013, 09:48:47 AM
Running away?
On the contrary my dear Mick.  ;D

whiny little cry baby
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: ukjeff on May 15, 2013, 09:49:31 AM
Bigmc
Popular guy since 2007
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=123681.0
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: bigmc on May 15, 2013, 10:01:36 AM
Bigmc
Popular guy since 2007
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=123681.0

 :'(

cry baby
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: ukjeff on May 15, 2013, 10:09:59 AM
6 years you have been here and its the same old story with you, not one step forward with your ability to navigate an argument.

The attention these guys give you, its like care in the community.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: OTHstrong on May 15, 2013, 10:11:12 AM
Bigmc
Popular guy since 2007
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=123681.0
hahahah a 50 year roaming around looking for arguments, how is your bike mike, did you fix it
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: ukjeff on May 15, 2013, 10:12:11 AM
Bike Mikes fine, hows the weight gain coming, can you still see your feet, lol.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: bigmc on May 15, 2013, 10:20:34 AM
6 years you have been here and its the same old story with you, not one step forward with your ability to navigate an argument.

The attention these guys give you, its like care in the community.

cry baby
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: OTHstrong on May 15, 2013, 10:40:31 AM
Bike Mikes fine, hows the weight gain coming, can you still see your feet, lol.
No cause my chest is too big  ;)
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on May 15, 2013, 10:44:41 AM
How come they never do any cool martial arts stuff in any of these fights?  ???  Are martial arts more for show hence the term "arts"?   ???  They never do anything that some drunkard at a bar could do, why is this the case?


 




 Bonus. ;D

 



Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: no one on May 15, 2013, 11:18:40 AM
Could you define tough guy?  GSP beat Matt Hughes, and I would consider him a tough guy?  GSP has learned to fight without taking too much punishment, like Anderson Silva.  The fellows you mentioned, with the styles in which they fight, take a ton of punishment with their styles?  Randy Coulture is a beast though and arguably one of the best to ever fight!  Do not want to sound like I am taking anything away from any of the fighters you mentioned, they are all Hall of Famers for sure but GSP is one tough SOB as well.  Benson has not proven himself yet, still a ton of time for him to prove his place among the elite.

sure. guys who could probably take care of themselves very well before they ever got into MMA.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: BILL ANVIL on May 15, 2013, 03:43:07 PM
Could you define tough guy?  GSP beat Matt Hughes, and I would consider him a tough guy?  GSP has learned to fight without taking too much punishment, like Anderson Silva.  The fellows you mentioned, with the styles in which they fight, take a ton of punishment with their styles?  Randy Coulture is a beast though and arguably one of the best to ever fight!  Do not want to sound like I am taking anything away from any of the fighters you mentioned, they are all Hall of Famers for sure but GSP is one tough SOB as well.  Benson has not proven himself yet, still a ton of time for him to prove his place among the elite.

gsp taps to strikes
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: arce1988 on May 15, 2013, 05:06:19 PM
 when gsp let serra beat him up    that is when he made me worry about his heart
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: BILL ANVIL on May 15, 2013, 06:38:48 PM
when gsp let serra beat him up    that is when he made me worry about his heart

not what i would consider tough as nails.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: Devon97 on May 15, 2013, 06:50:40 PM
If someone attacked me, I would rip his ears, balls, and bite neck, eyes etc...  Similar to how a chimpanzee fights and they are EXTREMELY deadly. 

That's b/c you're an absolute pussy. You've been in 3 fights and the hardest thing you've ever done is shoveling in the hot sun lol
Get serious  ;D
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: Radical Plato on May 17, 2013, 10:07:11 PM
True Adonis sounds like a massive pussy.  Just stand and fight you f@ggot.  people respect a man who loses but fights well rather than some scared little pussy running away and looking for something to throw at their opponent and will eventually get their arse kicked anyway  What an ass clown.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: The True Adonis on May 17, 2013, 10:08:37 PM
True Adonis sounds like a massive pussy.  Just stand and fight you f@ggot.  people respect a man who loses but fights well rather than some scared little pussy running away and looking for something to throw at their opponent and will eventually get their arse kicked anyway  What an ass clown.
You.  I would just shoot you.  Would be the best way to put you out of your misery.  :D
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: Radical Plato on May 17, 2013, 10:13:38 PM
You.  I would just shoot you.  Would be the best way to put you out of your misery.  :D
Your an embarrassment, even with all your dirty tactics you would get your arse kicked.  The very fact you treat a simple fight as some fight to the death shows how pathetically scared you are and aware how little you know about how to defend yourself.  All this hysterical ranting about blinding your opponent or biting them or running around looking for something to throw at them.  Here is a tip, go get some self defence lessons, roll around a bit, learn some JJ, boxing, anything to reduce your obvious effeminate fear of having a fight with another human being. 
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: freespirit on May 18, 2013, 01:15:31 AM
Your an embarrassment, even with all your dirty tactics you would get your arse kicked.  The very fact you treat a simple fight as some fight to the death shows how pathetically scared you are and aware how little you know about how to defend yourself.  All this hysterical ranting about blinding your opponent or biting them or running around looking for something to throw at them.  Here is a tip, go get some self defence lessons, roll around a bit, learn some JJ, boxing, anything to reduce your obvious effeminate fear of having a fight with another human being. 

TA is a narcissist with no life experience. He's never been into any kind of trouble.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: The True Adonis on May 18, 2013, 07:40:47 AM
Your an embarrassment, even with all your dirty tactics you would get your arse kicked.  The very fact you treat a simple fight as some fight to the death shows how pathetically scared you are and aware how little you know about how to defend yourself.  All this hysterical ranting about blinding your opponent or biting them or running around looking for something to throw at them.  Here is a tip, go get some self defence lessons, roll around a bit, learn some JJ, boxing, anything to reduce your obvious effeminate fear of having a fight with another human being. 
::)
A rock to the face is more effective than an "arm bar".
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: _bruce_ on May 18, 2013, 08:54:19 AM
::)
A cock to the face is more effective than an "arm bar".

Spot on.
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: doison on May 18, 2013, 02:54:06 PM
::)
A rock to the face is more effective than an "arm bar".

A rock that misses the face and leads to a "stand your ground" ending is pretty ineffective though
Title: Re: MMA, UFC, Man fighting question.
Post by: Archer77 on May 18, 2013, 04:00:59 PM
::)
A rock to the face is more effective than an "arm bar".

Depends on the size of the rock.