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Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« on: October 07, 2023, 06:43:48 AM »
The FBI report of the Bobulinski interview was released in a 700 page document dump by the WH Ways and Means recently.  There are direct quotes from the report here.

There have been a few on this board who have referred to facts posted this topic as "biased interpretation" of events, and have ignored posts about this in other threads.

There is no denying it now - Biden lied in the debate about the authenticity of the laptop in the debate, he lied about ever discussing business with Hunter, and he lied about ever meeting with business partners.  But the folks on this board with TDS will not care, or convince themselves that all politicians lie and that there's no "proof" of any Biden/$ link.

Oh, and for those trying to discredit Bobulinksi - he had all the laptop emails pertaining to him on his cell to verify all this is true.

https://nypost.com/2023/10/06/fbi-knew-all-about-joe-and-hunters-business-dealings-laptop-authenticity-and-did-nothing-files/

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It’s clear from the 302 report that the FBI knew at the time that Hunter’s laptop and the Post story about it were “legitimate” and not part of any Russian disinformation plot.

Yet the FBI joined the U.S. intelligence community in pushing that false narrative to Facebook, Twitter and other media who censored the story. The FBI’s suppression campaign ran coast-to-coast, reportedly led by anti-Trump honchos Timothy Thibault in D.C. and Elvis Chan in San Francisco.

In effect, the FBI slapped a warning label on derogatory information on the Bidens that was not only easily verifiable — but actually verified.

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The FBI 302 also reveals that, despite his denials ever discussing business with his son, Joe Biden personally spoke with Bobulinski about his son’s Chinese joint venture — known as Sinohawk — on two occasions: May 2, 2017, at 10:30 p.m. at the Beverly Hills Hilton Hotel bar; and May, 3, 2017, at a Milken Institute conference in Los Angeles.

The report noted that Joe Biden was to be cut in on the profits: “An additional 10% was to be held by HUNTER BIDEN for the ‘big guy,’ which was a reference to JOSEPH BIDEN.”

The FBI also noted that “BOBULINSKI witnessed a large diamond gemstone given as a gift to HUNTER BIDEN by YE [JIANMING],” one of the Chinese partners in the deal.

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Bobulinski told agents he asked Joe Biden’s brother Jimmy, who was also in on the shady Beijing deal: “How are you guys doing this? Aren’t you afraid for Joe’s political campaign?”

Bobulinski said Jimmy Biden flatly answered, “Plausible deniability.” Bobulinski took this to mean that “financial transactions that ultimately benefited JOSEPH BIDEN and his family were brokered through and managed by JOSEPH BIDEN’s family members — such as HUNTER BIDEN and JAMES BIDEN — to prevent JOSEPH BIDEN’s direct involvement,” according to the FBI report.

“The structure gave JOSEPH BIDEN the ability to plausibly deny his involvement and knowledge of the transactions, while still benefiting indirectly.”

Prime, etc - still think there's nothing here?
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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2023, 06:58:47 AM »
The leftist libtardia affects their thinking & rationality so severely
they suspend truth / facts / reality & just blindly carry on repeating
their ingrained mantra & agenda.

It truly is a very strange & dangerous cult / brainwashing affliction.

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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2023, 11:25:57 AM »
Primepedo, Agnosticluvsanal, Lurkerforboys where ya at??????
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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2023, 11:38:56 AM »
Primepedo, Agnosticluvsanal, Lurkerforboys where ya at??????

The country should be united about fixing this.
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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2023, 01:00:58 PM »
 ::) Here is where I am at... I don't give a rip.

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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2023, 01:02:23 PM »
::) Here is where I am at... I don't give a rip.
You shouldn't you'll be dead soon anyway. :)
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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2023, 01:06:06 PM »
You shouldn't you'll be dead soon anyway. :)

Whatever.

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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2023, 01:15:03 PM »
::) Here is where I am at... I don't give a rip.


So basically your position is, as long as Trump didn't get elected, you're fine with Biden's lies, the FBI interfering in the election process, and the possibility our President sold influence to our adversaries for personal gain.

As long as there's no Trump in the WH.

OR....you just can't admit you were wrong.

Or both.
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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2023, 01:18:00 PM »

So basically your position is, as long as Trump didn't get elected, you're fine with Biden's lies, the FBI interfering in the election process, and the possibility our President sold influence to our adversaries for personal gain.

As long as there's no Trump in the WH.

OR....you just can't admit you were wrong.

Or both.

Well at least you got the part about my being thankful that Trump lost the election.

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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2023, 01:18:09 PM »
::) Here is where I am at... I don't give a rip.

Yet You do on anything & everything Donald  ::)

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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2023, 01:19:53 PM »
Yet You do on anything & everything Donald  ::)

Do I? Whatever you say.

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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2023, 01:48:05 PM »
Well at least you got the part about my being thankful that Trump lost the election.

So you're only here to discuss things when you feel you have the upper hand, or attack posters in a group you feel are easy pickings.

When faced with undeniable proof of wrongdoing, you "don't give a rip".

Got it.
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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2023, 01:53:25 PM »
So you're only here to discuss things when you feel you have the upper hand, or attack posters in a group you feel are easy pickings.

When faced with undeniable proof of wrongdoing, you "don't give a rip".

Got it.
Shit bowl cleaner turned wannabe political savant, useless old fuck!
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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2023, 01:53:30 PM »
So you're only here to discuss things when you feel you have the upper hand, or attack posters in a group you feel are easy pickings.

When faced with undeniable proof of wrongdoing, you "don't give a rip".

Got it.

Yup. You got it. You can sleep easy now.

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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2023, 02:45:39 PM »
Shit bowl cleaner turned wannabe political savant, useless old fuck!

I've never been outwardly mean to him.

Actually thought he might be better than this, but based on his response to me, I have changed my mind, and will not bother with him anymore.

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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2023, 03:03:53 PM »
I've never been outwardly mean to him.

Actually thought he might be better than this, but based on his response to me, I have changed my mind, and will not bother with him anymore.

Maybe you are a little too sensitive. Just saying. ;)

Not that the following makes any difference because I suspect you won’t like what I post unless I agree with you.

 So, the truth is this; I don't care what Hunter Biden did or did not do. He is a private citizen. When there is enough proof to charge/impeach and convict Daddy Biden of wrongdoing there might be something that merits a discussion.

I do not believe I have ever said one way or the other whether Hunter's laptop was legit, or that he was messed up on drugs, alcohol, and hookers. As I posted in response to Coach... all that stuff is gossip whether true or not. But then, some people really get off on gossiping about other people's shortcomings and misfortunes... maybe it makes them feel less upset about their own. Because we all know that no one is perfect... as in casting the first stone.

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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2023, 03:30:08 PM »
Primepedo, Agnosticluvsanal, Lurkerforboys where ya at??????

In your head obviously. 

Surprised there was room left after all the queer thoughts though.

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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2023, 03:36:29 PM »
So Joe is either a demented bozo or a pretty damn good mastermind of criminal activities.  Which is it?

As I have said before, the laptop story not being suppressed would not have changed the outcome of the election anymore than the information of Trumpy's adultery and paying porn stars would have.  It would have swayed little to none of the voters.  At the end of the day the people casting those ballots were going to vote for their or vote against the other guy  no matter what.

As far as election interference, maybe you could call it that indirectly.  But it compares in no way to the direct election interference that the GOP attempted the last go around.

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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2023, 03:49:08 PM »
So Joe is either a demented bozo or a pretty damn good mastermind of criminal activities.  Which is it?

As I have said before, the laptop story not being suppressed would not have changed the outcome of the election anymore than the information of Trumpy's adultery and paying porn stars would have.  It would have swayed little to none of the voters.  At the end of the day the people casting those ballots were going to vote for their or vote against the other guy  no matter what.

As far as election interference, maybe you could call it that indirectly.  But it compares in no way to the direct election interference that the GOP attempted the last go around.

This is where we disagree a bit.  There were polls conducted, that showed just how many folks didn't know about the laptop story, and how many would've have changed their vote had they.  The numbers I saw change the outcome.

Given the small disparity in the 3 swing states, it's not improbable it could have changed the election.  Either way, the FBI should most certainly not act in this manner.  Was it just the two rogue agents?  I don't know, but it's really bad.

As for this:
So Joe is either a demented bozo or a pretty damn good mastermind of criminal activities.  Which is it?

It can be both, or just the bozo part.  This was in 2018, so that's 5 years ago, and Biden most definitely wasn't in the same mental state.  However, he has been in Washington forever, and he know how to operate - meaning, he knows damn well what getting on the phone with Hunter's business partners, regardless of the conversation.  But two, the family seems to have helped give him the plausible deniability necessary to fool the sheeple.

And I will say, when all this first came out, I only really thought it was Hunter giving the appearance of influence, rather than Joe getting any benefit.  However, now that two big lies of Joe's have been exposed, plus Hunter's own words on the laptop saying he gives half his $ to his Dad (and Bobulisnki confirming the Big Guy) there's little doubt it's as bad as we thought.  He should have known better, or just copied Pelosi's stock picks so he didn't need to do this.
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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2023, 03:56:41 PM »
Maybe you are a little too sensitive. Just saying. ;)

Not that the following makes any difference because I suspect you won’t like what I post unless I agree with you.

 So, the truth is this; I don't care what Hunter Biden did or did not do. He is a private citizen. When there is enough proof to charge/impeach and convict Daddy Biden of wrongdoing there might be something that merits a discussion.

I do not believe I have ever said one way or the other whether Hunter's laptop was legit, or that he was messed up on drugs, alcohol, and hookers. As I posted in response to Coach... all that stuff is gossip whether true or not. But then, some people really get off on gossiping about other people's shortcomings and misfortunes... maybe it makes them feel less upset about their own. Because we all know that no one is perfect... as in casting the first stone.

So, we have proof of Joe lying about the laptop's authenticity.

We have proof of his admin procuring the 51 "experts" to put out misinformation after they knew the laptop is real.

We have proof the FBI knew it was real when they contacted big tech to warn of a potential russian disinformation threat.

We have proof of Joe lying saying he never spoke to Hunter's business partners or discussed business with his son.

We have proof Hunter received wire transfers listing Joe's address.

We have proof that Hunter said he gives half his money to his Dad.

The FBI interviewed Bobulinski, and put in their report, that Bobulinski confirmed Joe was The Big Guy.

We have proof from whistleblowers who said the investigation was stalwarted on many occasions internally.

What do you need to think there is wrongdoing here - an actual picture of Hunter handing Joe a big bag with giant "$" on it?

But all the  crack and stuff is valid in this case, because it makes this absoltuely surreal nutty shit make sense.  The laptop story, in and of itself, sound like a political fairy tale.....but it actually isn't.

I actually wish Trump won - mostly for the reason we'd be done with him by end of next year, instead of the possibility of four more.
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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2023, 05:36:21 PM »
The FBI report of the Bobulinski interview was released in a 700 page document dump by the WH Ways and Means recently.  There are direct quotes from the report here.

There have been a few on this board who have referred to facts posted this topic as "biased interpretation" of events, and have ignored posts about this in other threads.

There is no denying it now - Biden lied in the debate about the authenticity of the laptop in the debate, he lied about ever discussing business with Hunter, and he lied about ever meeting with business partners.  But the folks on this board with TDS will not care, or convince themselves that all politicians lie and that there's no "proof" of any Biden/$ link.

Oh, and for those trying to discredit Bobulinksi - he had all the laptop emails pertaining to him on his cell to verify all this is true.

https://nypost.com/2023/10/06/fbi-knew-all-about-joe-and-hunters-business-dealings-laptop-authenticity-and-did-nothing-files/

Prime, etc - still think there's nothing here?
Brother, that's a lot of effort when you know they are going to lie, deflect and shrug off any facts and continue to hide behind the mantra of "at least Trump didn't win"
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2023, 06:27:56 PM »
Brother, that's a lot of effort when you know they are going to lie, deflect and shrug off any facts and continue to hide behind the mantra of "at least Trump didn't win"

Pretty much this, again:




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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2023, 09:15:23 PM »
Here's what I said...

 
Stalled or not, let the chips fall where they may. No hurry. What matters is the truth... Take your time, do it right. And I say this about any investigation, trial. Hunter Biden? If he is guilty of violating laws, prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. If Joe Biden is guilty of violating laws, prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. If Trump is guilty of violating laws, prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. I don't personally know any of them.. could care less what happens to them, I am interested in truth, justice and the American way.. at least the American way I grew up with. I'm American first, independent second.

 

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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2023, 10:13:10 PM »
Here's what I said...

You did say that and I remembered it.

What are your thoughts based on the factual evidence above?
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Re: Undeniable proof of FBI corruption / election interference
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2023, 03:09:18 PM »
You did say that and I remembered it.

What are your thoughts based on the factual evidence above?

I'm open to hearing what both sides have to say. The Democrats are saying the Republicans cherry picked what they wanted to release. The Democrats are saying that the recent testimony by the republicans witnesses refuted much of the allegations the Republicans had in regards to this issue.

I am convinced Hunter Biden used his Fathers status to make money.

I'm convinced entities paid money to Hunter Biden or his company in the hopes of getting positive results from Joe Biden on policies.

I'm convinced Joe Biden downplayed his interactions with his sons business associates. While he may have never discussed business with them, it was poor judgement and a lie early on to use words like "no" and "never". "I never talked to anyone in Burisma" may have meant, I never discussed issues with them" but when evidence comes to light you did in fact have conversations, or meet them at a party, then it becomes a lie and looks like you're hiding something.   It's not the first time this has happened to a government official who claimed they never met someone and then pictures appear showing them together at a party or function.

I'm willing to wait and see if the Republicans or a Special prosecutor is able to make direct connections to Biden and violated laws. If that happens then impeach him, remove him and send him to jail.