Author Topic: Magoo: The Quest for a 405 bench  (Read 108209 times)

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #325 on: May 18, 2008, 11:34:17 AM »
well that's just crazy talk. crazy talk.  >:(

LOL I swear to god it is 100% true!

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #326 on: May 19, 2008, 09:01:25 PM »
LOL I swear to god it is 100% true!

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haha, i believe you, it's just crazy! >:(

MONDAY - pull day

deadlifts:
135x5
225x5
315x3
405x1
455x1
495x1 - butter. fixed my form. woot.
515x1 - woot! i haven't pulled that in FOREVER.

pause squats:
225x5
315x3
315x3
315x3 - rock bottom all sets

DB snatches: no pause on the floor
95x5/5
95x5/5
95x5/3 - grip shit out on my left hand

DB shrugs:
130x15
150x12
150x10
100x50 - no straps. ouch.

abs

weight: no idea

notes: okay, i widened my stance and my grip on the pulls and hot damn my back was GOLDEN. since i hit 515 i'm going to take a few weeks off of heavy pulling. probably 455 for reps. i'd love to hit 5 paused on the floor.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #327 on: May 20, 2008, 10:16:24 AM »
ROCK ON, Magoo.   8)

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #328 on: May 20, 2008, 12:06:37 PM »
You get my PM magoo?

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #329 on: May 20, 2008, 12:39:34 PM »
haha look at you on the way to 600 on the pull! WTG SON!

how's that back feelin?

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #330 on: May 20, 2008, 03:24:51 PM »
keep raping those numbers!

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #331 on: May 20, 2008, 04:15:02 PM »
haha, i believe you, it's just crazy! >:(

MONDAY - pull day

deadlifts:
135x5
225x5
315x3
405x1
455x1
495x1 - butter. fixed my form. woot.
515x1 - woot! i haven't pulled that in FOREVER.

pause squats:
225x5
315x3
315x3
315x3 - rock bottom all sets

DB snatches: no pause on the floor
95x5/5
95x5/5
95x5/3 - grip shit out on my left hand

DB shrugs:
130x15
150x12
150x10
100x50 - no straps. ouch.

abs

weight: no idea

notes: okay, i widened my stance and my grip on the pulls and hot damn my back was GOLDEN. since i hit 515 i'm going to take a few weeks off of heavy pulling. probably 455 for reps. i'd love to hit 5 paused on the floor.

Is that a skinny magoo PR?

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #332 on: May 20, 2008, 05:14:37 PM »
Is that a skinny magoo PR?

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i think so. i might have gotten it a few months ago when i was north of 230 but it's been a loooong time since i've gone above 505, particularly since i tweaked my back. this SoCal weather is awesome for lifting. 8)

TUESDAY - bench day

flat bench: weird bar. had to guess my grip width
135x12
225x5
275x4
315x1 - piss easy
340x1 - mrs butterworth
365x1 - surprisingly smooth!
370x0 - shit
370x1 - success!!!
225x15 - quick burnout

incline DB bench:
100x8 - ouch. bad incline bench.

flat DB bench:
110x8
110x8
125x6 - i do not believe i've pushed db's over 120 before

chest-supported rows:
90x12
115x10
115x10
115x8

a set of chins

side raises:
30x12
40x12
40x12

some rope hammer curls

dips:
3x15 - just for happy elbows, and because i had to wait for my ride to finish up his run.

weight: 228 (fat :P )

notes: dude. 370? no shit. i was amazed.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #333 on: May 20, 2008, 10:45:08 PM »
Congrats on the 370!


Gettin' a bit tubby with that 3 extra ell bees, eh? :-\

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #334 on: May 20, 2008, 10:51:26 PM »
Congrats on the 370!


Gettin' a bit tubby with that 3 extra ell bees, eh? :-\

eh, i'm on vacation. i guess i can accept it for now. still not happy about it.

i should probably weigh myself first thing in the morning though, instead of midway through the day. i might find out i don't weigh what i think i do.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #335 on: May 20, 2008, 11:06:25 PM »
eh, i'm on vacation. i guess i can accept it for now. still not happy about it.

i should probably weigh myself first thing in the morning though, instead of midway through the day. i might find out i don't weigh what i think i do.

Just pullin' your chain, man! Dont be such a woman.  ;D


Ask teh Pegg, being hyoooge pays off! 8)

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #336 on: May 20, 2008, 11:15:39 PM »
Just pullin' your chain, man! Dont be such a woman.  ;D


Ask teh Pegg, being hyoooge pays off! 8)

hahaha, i can't help it! former fat kid that never went the pegg route and got "strong" in a way that justified my size.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #337 on: May 20, 2008, 11:59:59 PM »
370x1 - success!!!


Congrats!!!!  That's a personal PR, right?

From here on out--to 4..0..0..--it's 70% psychology and 30% pure strength, believe it or not.  You can nail it before the year's end, I bet. 8)

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #338 on: May 21, 2008, 12:07:36 AM »
Congrats!!!!  That's a personal PR, right?

From here on out--to 4..0..0..--it's 70% psychology and 30% pure strength, believe it or not.  You can nail it before the year's end, I bet. 8)

yeah man. i've NEVER taken 370 for a ride. never even held it in my hands until this workout. 365 just popped off my chest so easily (and then the spotter hit the bar upwards when i got to my grinding point which almost threw me off big time ::) ), so i figured i had to try it. the mental thing had me STAPLED on my first attempt. total no-budge. i'm really, really hoping for 405 by new years. i mean, it's 35 pounds, has to be doable right?

actually that's two PRs today, three this week if you let me say "i haven't pulled 515 in a very long time". i've never benched the 125 DBs either. i've got a good feeling about my squat workout too. who knows, i might finally get to my 4/5/6 plate bench/squat/deadlift goal within the year!

funny thing is, i remember when my bench goal was 315 how i thought "once i hit 315 i'm not gonna have any goals left! that's my white whale". now 315 seems like kid weight. hitting it for a single feels like a joke.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #339 on: May 21, 2008, 12:16:47 AM »
'm really, really hoping for 405 by new years. i mean, it's 35 pounds, has to be doable right?



It's TOTALLY do-able.  Don't listen to the "conventional" wisdom that says once you hit 350 or so, getting 5 lbs more than that takes up to a month.  Gains are a weird thing.  Sometimes you're just in the "zone" and can lift more than you thought possible.  It really is more about psychology than pure strength once you get to a certain point.  People get so stuck on "milestones"...and the 400 lb bench is one of the big milestones for most raw lifters.  They get stuck to the point that to push 400 just seems way out of range, even though it's really not.  I don't know if you're doing them, but partial presses from the pins can help the CNS adapt to bigger poundages.  If you're pressing 370 for a 1RM from the chest, try 415-445 for 4-6 inch lockouts, gradually working your way down closer to the chest.  The extra load will KILL your forearms and front delts, which take most of the load for presses like these, but it does help IMO.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #340 on: May 21, 2008, 01:14:46 AM »
hmmmm. sounds like a plan. i'll do some benching in the squat rack next week and see what's up. my gym's rack isn't great for those (you have to start at the bottom because the hooks go too high up), so maybe i'll do some heavy board presses instead. hmm.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #341 on: May 21, 2008, 06:29:31 AM »
hmmmm. sounds like a plan. i'll do some benching in the squat rack next week and see what's up. my gym's rack isn't great for those (you have to start at the bottom because the hooks go too high up), so maybe i'll do some heavy board presses instead. hmm.

be very careful with  the extra heavy board presses tho, and dont get impatient. i agree with panda about the mental barrier thing, i was kinda freaked out the first time i benched 4 plates per side (180kg). but there are many ways to "trick" the body and mind to get past those barriers.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #342 on: May 21, 2008, 11:44:43 AM »
hmmmm. sounds like a plan. i'll do some benching in the squat rack next week and see what's up. my gym's rack isn't great for those (you have to start at the bottom because the hooks go too high up), so maybe i'll do some heavy board presses instead. hmm.

Slaveboy is exactly right about being patient.  See how your body adapts, but don't push yourself too hard and risk injury.  For example, I've found that very heavy lockouts week in and week out tax the CNS unnecessarily and makes one more prone to injury.  The upside to doing them, say, once every two weeks, is, it gets you used to what it feels like to hold a much heavier weight in your hands.  But I'm preaching to the choir; you're a seasoned lifter and know all about that.  Like I said before, I think you will have 400-405 in you by the end of the year, barring injury, sickness, etc.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #343 on: May 21, 2008, 01:13:18 PM »
Sweet bench man!  Very nicely done!

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #344 on: May 22, 2008, 07:12:09 AM »
everyone is giving GREAT advice man! WAY TO HAMMER DOWN 370 BRUTHA! Feels good doesn't it! HAHA!

my advice..if you can do it.. is to train in a cage WITH board presses if you can find someone to hold the board down for you instead of using the pins if you can. That way when you sink the bar into the boards the weight is still being transferred into the body unlike pin presses. However.. if you can't do board presses or don't feel comfortable withthem.. trust me.. pin presses are just fine and people have been using them for years.

What I do is set goals.. I'll go say for sets of 4 on the board presses and no move up until I've hit ALL my working weights with that goal. I'll work with 315x4,365x4, and then only hjit 405 for two..but I'll keep plugging away at it until I hit 405 for 4.. then move up in weight. I used to hate board presses but now I'm in love with them!

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #345 on: May 22, 2008, 02:32:41 PM »
THURSDAY - squat day

squats:
135x5
225x5
315x3
365x3 - belt on
385x4 - could have hit 5, but just wasn't feeling it.
385x3

sumo pulls: pause on the floor.
135x5
225x5
315x5
405x3 - augh. awful.

SLDLs:
135x10
225x5
275x6
275x6

hack squat machine: weird one.
90x12
180x10
180x10 - awesome feel in the thighs.

random ab work.

weight: dunno

notes: felt like ten pounds of ass today. nothing felt right. plus a shitty squat rack mucked me up.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #346 on: May 22, 2008, 05:52:17 PM »
subjugate the iron!

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #347 on: May 22, 2008, 08:20:52 PM »
365x3 - belt on
385x4 - could have hit 5, but just wasn't feeling it.


Go 365x2 or even for 1 instead of 3 and you'd get that 385 for 5, maybe 6, I bet.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #348 on: May 23, 2008, 09:13:45 AM »
Go 365x2 or even for 1 instead of 3 and you'd get that 385 for 5, maybe 6, I bet.

5 is my goal. as soon as i hit a weight for five it's time to pop up 20 pounds and work from there. 405x5 would a REAL nice squat in my mind.

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Re: Magoo attempts to get strong.
« Reply #349 on: May 24, 2008, 03:51:52 PM »
boo ya.

SATURDAY - bench assistance

close-grip bench:
135x10
225x5
275x3
315x1
335x1 - awesome

standing military press:
135x10
155x9
155x7

pullups:
4x12

db curls: simultaneous
35x12
50x10
50x10

v-bar pushdowns:
70x20
70x20

weight: 226

notes: hey, hit the 335x1 without the spotter even coming near. good stuff. 405 is feeling closer and closer.