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Title: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: supernick on April 29, 2011, 01:33:02 PM
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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 02, 2011, 06:54:59 AM
GSP is a middle weight, and Anderson is a light heavy. They are both great fighters but you can't deny their edge is in their abilities to cut and quickly rehydrate.  Fedor fights guys 50 lbs heavier and gets criticised. GSP and Silva inflate 20 lbs before their fights and are praised.
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 02, 2011, 07:29:44 AM
Weight cutting and how effective you are is part of the sport.

It's a tool every fighter can use.
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 02, 2011, 07:42:17 AM
Weight cutting and how effective you are is part of the sport.

It's a tool every fighter can use.

You'd find a problem if fedor fought guys 20 lbs lighter
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 02, 2011, 07:50:06 AM
You'd find a problem if fedor fought guys 20 lbs lighter
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That's irrelevant in this case, isn't it.

Weight cutting is part of combat sports. Been that way forever. 
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: TPT on May 02, 2011, 12:12:21 PM
GSP came down from 193.

Still with the added muscle he looked too fucking small for Anderson Silva. Better fight is with Diaz.
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 02, 2011, 04:20:51 PM
You'd find a problem if fedor fought guys 20 lbs lighter

GSP & Anderson are not fighting guys that are 20 lbs lighter ::)  All the guys they fight are also cutting weight ::)
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 02, 2011, 05:15:42 PM
GSP & Anderson are not fighting guys that are 20 lbs lighter ::)  All the guys they fight are also cutting weight ::)


But a legit 170 lber wouldn't stand a chance, which should reflect what a welterweight is.

When you pull over a 20 lb swing in weight in 24 hrs, it just seems to be bending it too far IMO.
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 02, 2011, 05:18:13 PM

But a legit 170 lber wouldn't stand a chance, which should reflect what a welterweight is.

When you pull over a 20 lb swing in weight in 24 hrs, it just seems to be bending it too far IMO.

What's your point?  If they are all cutting weight and rehydrating the day after, they are fighting at around the same weight.  So, there is no advantage. 
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 02, 2011, 06:07:37 PM
What's your point?  If they are all cutting weight and rehydrating the day after, they are fighting at around the same weight.  So, there is no advantage. 

  There is an advantage to those who can manipulate their true weight more effectively. They should compute an average weight a month out till fight night or something and tell it like it is.
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 02, 2011, 11:17:59 PM
  There is an advantage to those who can manipulate their true weight more effectively. They should compute an average weight a month out till fight night or something and tell it like it is.

Lol
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 09, 2011, 03:22:51 PM
weight cutting is for pussies that are afraid of men their own size or bigger

Mr. Emelianenko dextroyed men bigger than him for years, he considers cutting down once and fights a few men that normally cut (lindland, henderson), his haters call him a pussy ::)

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 09, 2011, 04:32:39 PM
weight cutting is for pussies that are afraid of men their own size or bigger

Mr. Emelianenko dextroyed men bigger than him for years, he considers cutting down once and fights a few men that normally cut (lindland, henderson), his haters call him a pussy ::)

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lol.  I guess that's why he fought Aoki, Lindland and now is fighting Hendo.  BTW, Hendo asked that Fedor come down to 205 and fight men his own size. Fedor said the only way he would fight Hendo was at 220.  Hendo was more than willing.  Seems to me like Fedor is quif and Hendo is a really man.

By the way, WTF is going on in that avatar of yours?
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 09, 2011, 07:01:14 PM
lol.  I guess that's why he fought Aoki, Lindland and now is fighting Hendo.  BTW, Hendo asked that Fedor come down to 205 and fight men his own size. Fedor said the only way he would fight Hendo was at 220.  Hendo was more than willing.  Seems to me like Fedor is quif and Hendo is a really man.

By the way, WTF is going on in that avatar of yours?

i mentioned lindland, funny how you look at the few exceptions rather than the numerous bigger men he destroyed

your ufc heroes only fight smaller men, cowards

the dog shit on the chick

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 10, 2011, 01:03:31 PM
i mentioned lindland, funny how you look at the few exceptions rather than the numerous bigger men he destroyed

your ufc heroes only fight smaller men, cowards

the dog shit on the chick

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Who, exactly, is fighting smaller men?  Last time I checked, everyone (without exception) cuts weight for their fights.  As for Fedor, the only truly skilled fighters he ever beat were Big Nog and CroCop...both were not much bigger than him.  All of the "giants" he fought were circus sideshows like Hongman Choi.  So what do you make of Fedor beng too much of a pussy to meet Hendo at 205?
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 10, 2011, 01:08:05 PM
Who, exactly, is fighting smaller men?  Last time I checked, everyone (without exception) cuts weight for their fights.  As for Fedor, the only truly skilled fighters he ever beat were Big Nog and CroCop...both were not much bigger than him.  All of the "giants" he fought were circus sideshows like Hongman Choi.  So what do you make of Fedor beng too much of a pussy to meet Hendo at 205?

who is fighting smaller men?  are you serious with that question?

how about every light heavyweight fighter that walks around as a heavyweight

how about anderson silva and rick franklin walking around well over 200

heavyweight champion is the king of the mountain, the best in the world

all other titles are glorified "small man" titles

all of them are pussies, where do you get the nerve to knock the great Fedor who fought bigger men, could you possibly be anymore of a hater

why on earth should the greatest fighter ever have to cut weight for the first time in his career? 

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 10, 2011, 02:05:44 PM
who is fighting smaller men?  are you serious with that question?

how about every light heavyweight fighter that walks around as a heavyweight

how about anderson silva and rick franklin walking around well over 200

heavyweight champion is the king of the mountain, the best in the world

all other titles are glorified "small man" titles

all of them are pussies, where do you get the nerve to knock the great Fedor who fought bigger men, could you possibly be anymore of a hater

why on earth should the greatest fighter ever have to cut weight for the first time in his career? 

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LOL Earl, are you on your period again?  Why should Fedor have to cut weight?  Newsflash!  He lost two in a row.  The most recent to a glorified can.  Fedor can't hang with the big boys any more, so what does he do?  He fights a small light heavy weight...lol. 

BTW, is there a youtube version of that diarrhea dog?
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 10, 2011, 03:32:13 PM
lol.  I guess that's why he fought Aoki, Lindland and now is fighting Hendo.  BTW, Hendo asked that Fedor come down to 205 and fight men his own size. Fedor said the only way he would fight Hendo was at 220.  Hendo was more than willing.  Seems to me like Fedor is quif and Hendo is a really man.

Aoki was exhibition. M-1 Global wanted a catchweight bout between 215-220. Henderson refused and wanted him at HW. He didn't want the excuse of beating Fedor cause he cut too much weight. That was from MMA news.
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 10, 2011, 05:33:40 PM
This is a no win situation for Fedor and nothing but an embarrassment that his career has come to this.

He's fighting a smaller guy. A guy that has recently fought at MW and LHW?

When I was in school, they used to call picking on the little guy, being a bully.
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 10, 2011, 06:12:09 PM

LOL Earl, are you on your period again?  Why should Fedor have to cut weight?  Newsflash!  He lost two in a row.  The most recent to a glorified can.  Fedor can't hang with the big boys any more, so what does he do?  He fights a small light heavy weight...lol. 

BTW, is there a youtube version of that diarrhea dog?

he lost to a much bigger man, none of your ufc heroes that fight below heavyweight would've had the balls to fight him, and explain to me how silva is a can

i don't know about a video for the dog

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 10, 2011, 06:13:56 PM
This is a no win situation for Fedor and nothing but an embarrassment that his career has come to this.

He's fighting a smaller guy. A guy that has recently fought at MW and LHW?

When I was in school, they used to call picking on the little guy, being a bully.

and Fedor killing bigger guys for years was what? 

you will hate on the best fighter we have ever been priviledged to watch no matter what

keep hating while your ufc heroes keep praising him, makes you look so smart ;)

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 10, 2011, 06:39:26 PM
and Fedor killing bigger guys for years was what? 

you will hate on the best fighter we have ever been priviledged to watch no matter what

keep hating while your ufc heroes keep praising him, makes you look so smart ;)

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Bullying smaller guys around is no way for a fighter to go out. Damn shame.  I'm not the biggest Fedor fan, but I didn't want this to happen to him.  Go out like a man, fighting the best. Win or Lose, there's no shame in that.

Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 10, 2011, 07:17:49 PM
Bullying smaller guys around is no way for a fighter to go out. Damn shame.  I'm not the biggest Fedor fan, but I didn't want this to happen to him.  Go out like a man, fighting the best. Win or Lose, there's no shame in that.



he's not going out after the henderson fight

no fighter can say he's been a bigger bully killer than Fedor

6'0 and a very soft 230 lbs beating taller, heavier and more muscular man


that guy is my hero :D

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 10, 2011, 09:28:15 PM
he's not going out after the henderson fight

no fighter can say he's been a bigger bully killer than Fedor

6'0 and a very soft 230 lbs beating taller, heavier and more muscular man


that guy is my hero :D

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You're right...there are quite a few past their prime cans that he can take fights with. Lindland want a rematch.  Maybe Babalu?
Trigg? Shamrock? Wonder who it'll be.

Still sad to see that his career has come to this....at least take fights with HW cans.
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 12, 2011, 10:43:09 AM
You're right...there are quite a few past their prime cans that he can take fights with. Lindland want a rematch.  Maybe Babalu?
Trigg? Shamrock? Wonder who it'll be.

Still sad to see that his career has come to this....at least take fights with HW cans.

do you think you know mma more than all of the elite fighters that say Fedor is great or the greatest of all time?

think about it for a second ::)

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 12, 2011, 11:53:16 AM
do you think you know mma more than all of the elite fighters that say Fedor is great or the greatest of all time?

think about it for a second ::)

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lol.  You know they are all saying that so that they can be matched up with him, beat him and then say they beat the greatest.  lol
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 12, 2011, 11:54:53 AM

lol.  You know they are all saying that so that they can be matched up with him, beat him and then say they beat the greatest.  lol

exactly nobody says this about your ufc heroes because everybody knows they are inferior to Fedor

good to see you are finally getting it

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 12, 2011, 11:59:22 AM
exactly nobody says this about your ufc heroes because everybody knows they are inferior to Fedor

good to see you are finally getting it

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No one says that about a guy like Cain, because they know they will get murdered in the octagon.  People are calling Fedor out because they know what an overrated can crusher he is.  Dude, he lost two in a row and with the exception if Cropcop & Big Nog, he hasn't beaten any real opposition.  That's his big claim to fame.  Two fights that happened 10 years ago....lol!!!
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 12, 2011, 09:51:02 PM

No one says that about a guy like Cain, because they know they will get murdered in the octagon.  People are calling Fedor out because they know what an overrated can crusher he is.  Dude, he lost two in a row and with the exception if Cropcop & Big Nog, he hasn't beaten any real opposition.  That's his big claim to fame.  Two fights that happened 10 years ago....lol!!!

nobody wannabe alpha calls out an average guy, they call out the alpha because they want to be the alpha

the best athletes in all sports face the most trash talk, you would know this if bodybuilding wasn't the only sport you followed until tuf came on the air ;)

and Fedor has beaten better competiton than any fighter you can name

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 12, 2011, 11:03:09 PM
Besides crocop & Nog, whats all this great competition that Fedor has beaten
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 13, 2011, 05:42:47 AM
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: doison on May 13, 2011, 06:23:40 AM
 There is an advantage to those who can manipulate their true weight more effectively. They should compute an average weight a month out till fight night or something and tell it like it is.

Yeah!  And they should be forced to pass a "muscle mass and strength index" screening too!  Anyone who has manipulated their training more effectively in order to get some kind of "advantage" by being stronger or better conditioned will be disqualified!  Then the fights will "tell it like it is!"  


Of course it's an advantage.  That's the fucking point, fuckface.  
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 13, 2011, 08:36:56 AM
Yeah!  And they should be forced to pass a "muscle mass and strength index" screening too!  Anyone who has manipulated their training more effectively in order to get some kind of "advantage" by being stronger or better conditioned will be disqualified!  Then the fights will "tell it like it is!" 


Of course it's an advantage.  That's the fucking point, fuckface. 


Lol
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 13, 2011, 09:59:20 AM
Besides crocop & Nog, whats all this great competition that Fedor has beaten


funny how you call randy's win over tim sylvia "the best moment in ufc history" but when Fedor beats him in under a minute you aren't impressed ::)

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 13, 2011, 10:14:48 AM
Yeah!  And they should be forced to pass a "muscle mass and strength index" screening too!  Anyone who has manipulated their training more effectively in order to get some kind of "advantage" by being stronger or better conditioned will be disqualified!  Then the fights will "tell it like it is!"  


Of course it's an advantage.  That's the fucking point, fuckface.  


My sarcasm isn't directed towards you, sweetheart. No need for the pms.
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 13, 2011, 10:15:00 AM

funny how you call randy's win over tim sylvia "the best moment in ufc history" but when Fedor beats him in under a minute you aren't impressed ::)

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Nice way to not answer the question ::)  Again, who are all these amazing & huge Goliaths that Fedor beat....I'm waiting.
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 13, 2011, 10:38:45 AM
Nice way to not answer the question ::)  Again, who are all these amazing & huge Goliaths that Fedor beat....I'm waiting.

hahaha when are you going to name fighters with better resumes?  you are the master of dodging questions

not only did Fedor beat his competiton, he never even lost a round until recently

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 13, 2011, 10:53:27 AM
hahaha when are you going to name fighters with better resumes?  you are the master of dodging questions

not only did Fedor beat his competiton, he never even lost a round until recently

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Fedor is fighting a LHW next that also fights at MW.....Damn that is embarrassing.

When he figured out he couldn't beat a 6-1 underdog-can, he decided to play the "bully" game.
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 13, 2011, 11:00:28 AM
hahaha when are you going to name fighters with better resumes?  you are the master of dodging questions

not only did Fedor beat his competiton, he never even lost a round until recently

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I've answered your questions.  Now it's your turn.  You've repeatedly stated that Fedor is the greatest ever because he beat phenomenal fighters that were all much bigger than him.  Who are these amazing giants?
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 13, 2011, 11:22:16 AM
I've answered your questions.  Now it's your turn.  You've repeatedly stated that Fedor is the greatest ever because he beat phenomenal fighters that were all much bigger than him.  Who are these amazing giants?

Gsp would struggle with 250 lb cans. He would probably lose some too. He can't even knock out guys his own size. They ass kiss the lb for lb too much. The heavyweights on the lighter side have it the hardest imo. They don't enjoy the scale protection that the welters and others have. A 265 lean mass giant is night and day compared to a  natural 220. That's basically my point.
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 13, 2011, 11:51:04 AM
Fedor is fighting a LHW next that also fights at MW.....Damn that is embarrassing.

When he figured out he couldn't beat a 6-1 underdog-can, he decided to play the "bully" game.


all of your ufc heroes that fight below heavyweight are bullies

Fedor has been the bully killer for years, troll

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 13, 2011, 11:52:27 AM
I've answered your questions.  Now it's your turn.  You've repeatedly stated that Fedor is the greatest ever because he beat phenomenal fighters that were all much bigger than him.  Who are these amazing giants?

you did?  i have asked that numeorus times and i still don't recall getting an answer

or were you actually serious when you mentioned randy ???

sherdog fight finder is your friend

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 13, 2011, 11:53:10 AM
yes gsp is overrated, never finishes his opponents

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 13, 2011, 01:44:05 PM
do you think you know mma more than all of the elite fighters that say Fedor is great or the greatest of all time?

think about it for a second ::)

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Only people touting Fedor's skills these days are looking for a fight with him and an easy victory.

Put a fork in him, he's done. Irrelevant.

G.C.C.O.A.T though.
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 13, 2011, 02:05:00 PM
all of your ufc heroes that fight below heavyweight are bullies

Fedor has been the bully killer for years, troll

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Really? Explain how someone making weight and fighting guys that make the same weight class is bullying?

Earl, Fedor is done. Get over it. He had a good run crushing the cans of his era.

Now he wants easy paydays by fighting guys that are below his weight class. 

Fedor obviously is beyond caring what people think about him or his career.
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 13, 2011, 05:15:06 PM
Earl, who are the amazing giants that Fedor has beaten?

Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 14, 2011, 06:48:36 PM
Really? Explain how someone making weight and fighting guys that make the same weight class is bullying?

Earl, Fedor is done. Get over it. He had a good run crushing the cans of his era.

Now he wants easy paydays by fighting guys that are below his weight class. 

Fedor obviously is beyond caring what people think about him or his career.

the whole reason fighters cut weight is because they don't want to fight anybody that is bigger than they are, that is commen sense and common knowledge

he is the greatest of all time, i'm willing to bet i can find more pro fighters that agree with me than you can find fighters saying he's a can

don't worry though you have mindspin on yours side, that should help you sleep ::)

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 14, 2011, 06:50:32 PM
Earl, who are the amazing giants that Fedor has beaten?

2 time ufc champ tim slyvia, you know the same guy whose loss to randy was "the greatest moment in ufc history"

you have to be pretty amazing if your loss is such a "great" moment

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 14, 2011, 10:31:40 PM
2 time ufc champ tim slyvia, you know the same guy whose loss to randy was "the greatest moment in ufc history"

you have to be pretty amazing if your loss is such a "great" moment

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Bwahahahahah!!!  Bwahahahahha1!1!1!

That's the best you can come up with?  Really?  Hate to break it to you, but lots of people have beaten that can, including an old fat over the hill Ray Mercer.

The reason I enjoyed Randy beating Tim, is because I was happy to see the "Maniac" exposed.

LMAO! Fedor is the GOAT because he beat Tim Silvia....LO fucking L!
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 15, 2011, 10:15:51 AM

Bwahahahahah!!!  Bwahahahahha1!1!1!

That's the best you can come up with?  Really?  Hate to break it to you, but lots of people have beaten that can, including an old fat over the hill Ray Mercer.

The reason I enjoyed Randy beating Tim, is because I was happy to see the "Maniac" exposed.

LMAO! Fedor is the GOAT because he beat Tim Silvia....LO fucking L!

you asked for a giant, i gave you a giant

the maniac had a few losses already, you clearly thought he was an elite fighter for his loss to be the gretest moment ever, and if you put randy in the same category as fedor you can't ignore fedor's beat down of him in less than a minute


i have elite fighters agreeing with me, you have "weight pshr" ::)

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 15, 2011, 10:28:17 AM
you asked for a giant, i gave you a giant

the maniac had a few losses already, you clearly thought he was an elite fighter for his loss to be the gretest moment ever, and if you put randy in the same category as fedor you can't ignore fedor's beat down of him in less than a minute


i have elite fighters agreeing with me, you have "weight pshr" ::)

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I didn't ask for a giant. I asked for an elite giant, because you said Fedor has beaten a long list of "elite giants". The best you can come up with is Tim Silvia, whom everyone agrees is probably the worse heavy weight champ ever in the UFC.

Seriously, if that's the best you can come up with, how can you call Fedor the greatest P4P fighter ever?
Lol!
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 15, 2011, 11:12:51 AM
I didn't ask for a giant. I asked for an elite giant, because you said Fedor has beaten a long list of "elite giants". The best you can come up with is Tim Silvia, whom everyone agrees is probably the worse heavy weight champ ever in the UFC.

Seriously, if that's the best you can come up with, how can you call Fedor the greatest P4P fighter ever?
Lol!

i never used the words "elite giants", you did

he beat a long list of men much bigger than him, men your ufc heroes wouldn't have the balls to fight because they are bullies afraid of a bigger man


sylvia was a 2 time champ so what does that say about the ufc if he's the worst?  and Fedor beat him in less than a minute, your hero randy needed 5 rounds to get a decision even though tim was dazed since round 1

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Geo on May 15, 2011, 12:41:14 PM
I give edge to prides heavyweight talent pool over the UFC's talent pool in the days when Fedor was having his way and winning all those fights, but anyone who says the UFC's talent pool in those days didn't absolutely suck back then is pretty delusional.....

Sylvias title reign days are probably always going to be remembered as the UFC's worst period heavyweight-wise.
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 15, 2011, 01:07:13 PM
exactly

but Fedor crushed him in under a minute, the way only the best fighter of all time could

why don't we see any other 6'0 fighters with soft bodies step up and fight giants like that?

because they are pussies, unlike the great Fedor

to call Fedor a bully for fighting henderson is beyond ridiculous, they are haters that know mma as well as i know rocket science

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 15, 2011, 01:58:00 PM
Lol. Nice try. This isn't an argument about Pride vs UFC. Earl, you said that Fedor was the greatest P4P fighter of all time becaue he beat men much bigger than him. I said those bigger men were a bunch of glorified cans (not counting Crocop & Nog). So I ask again, who are these amazing bigger fighters that Fedor beat?

Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 15, 2011, 06:02:27 PM
Lol. Nice try. This isn't an argument about Pride vs UFC. Earl, you said that Fedor was the greatest P4P fighter of all time becaue he beat men much bigger than him. I said those bigger men were a bunch of glorified cans (not counting Crocop & Nog). So I ask again, who are these amazing bigger fighters that Fedor beat?


why do you keep asking when almost everybody he beat was bigger than him?

heck i can't think of one that had less muscle than him

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 15, 2011, 07:21:11 PM

why do you keep asking when almost everybody he beat was bigger than him?

heck i can't think of one that had less muscle than him

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Alright Earl. I'll let you off the hook.  Lets try an easier question. Besides Cropcop & Nog in their prime, please name any other elite fighter that Fedor beat in their prime. You think he is the greatest p4p ever, so there must be a long list....
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 15, 2011, 07:28:43 PM
Alright Earl. I'll let you off the hook.  Lets try an easier question. Besides Cropcop & Nog in their prime, please name any other elite fighter that Fedor beat in their prime. You think he is the greatest p4p ever, so there must be a long list....

define "prime"

most of the fighters he beat were top 5 - 10 when fedor beat them, aside from zulu and a few others he fought early in his career

if you're talking best resume p4p, who is better?

anderson silva?  i think names like mark coleman and kevin randleman look better on a resume than patrick cote and nate marquardt

gsp?  when does he ever even finish his opponents?  he got knocked out by matt serra for chrsit sakes

no fighter beat a more impressive amount of name fighters than fedor, and he completely dominated them all

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 16, 2011, 04:29:44 PM
define "prime"

most of the fighters he beat were top 5 - 10 when fedor beat them, aside from zulu and a few others he fought early in his career

if you're talking best resume p4p, who is better?

anderson silva?  i think names like mark coleman and kevin randleman look better on a resume than patrick cote and nate marquardt

gsp?  when does he ever even finish his opponents?  he got knocked out by matt serra for chrsit sakes

no fighter beat a more impressive amount of name fighters than fedor, and he completely dominated them all

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As usual Earl, I will pwn you with facts.  You're impressed with Coleman?  He's got a 16-10 record.  Randleman?  His record is 17-16!  LOL!!!  Bro you're reaching.  This is exactly what I am talking about.  Fedor beat a bunch of overhyped fighters.

You ask when does GSP ever finish opponents?  How about 60% of the time!  That's right, 60% of his wins are by KO or submissions.  He has NEVER been dominated in a fight.  He's been caught twice and avenged both of those losses.  Take a look at the long list of ELITE fighters that he has demolished: Fitch, Hughes, Alves, Koschek, BJ Penn, Sherk, etc.  


The last line in your post is hilarious.  "beat the most amount of impressive fighters"...lol.  You can't come up with any names other than crocop & Nog.  Fedor has beat a long list of cans with crappy records.  He's been hurt/dominated in multiple fights.  He's got two losses against B level players that he will never avenge. And, now he is trying to get back on the win column by doing what he does best...fighting guys he thinks he can beat easily.  Seriously.  Hendo at heavyweight....that's just sad.


The face of a man who has "completely dominated" everyone he's faced...LMAO!

(http://www.mmaroot.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/fedor-emelianenko-2.jpg)

(http://www.mmainterplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Fedor-Emelianenko-eye-e1297596388705.jpg)

(http://sportsnickel.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Fedors-Face.jpg)

(http://www.sergiocunhamma.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fedor-335x220.jpg)
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 16, 2011, 09:30:48 PM
fedor destroyed all the fighters put in front of him, mark coleman has a simlar record to coutour

gsp got knocked out by matt serra, nuff said

Fedor never lost a round until recently, you talk a lot for a guy that claims to not watch his fights ::)

what is the definition of b level fighter?  werdum is top 10 and has been as high as top 3, silva is top 10

you seem to think anybody that isn't the champ or recent champ is b level

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 16, 2011, 10:57:51 PM
fedor destroyed all the fighters put in front of him, mark coleman has a simlar record to coutour

gsp got knocked out by matt serra, nuff said

Fedor never lost a round until recently, you talk a lot for a guy that claims to not watch his fights ::)

what is the definition of b level fighter?  werdum is top 10 and has been as high as top 3, silva is top 10

you seem to think anybody that isn't the champ or recent champ is b level

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Lol. A "B" level fighter is someone with few fights on their record, on the downswing of their career and/or fights against weak & unproven opponents. The reason why you can't come up with good examples of elite fighters that Fedor has beaten, is because other than CC & Nog, there aren't ANY!  

And yes, the argument could be made that Werdume is a decent heavyweight, but Fedor lost to him...lol.

Anything can happen in an MMA fight. People get caught all the time. And it's happened to GSP. But, he easily avenged his 2 losses and everyone agrees that there is no one at 170 that can touch him. He's completely cleaned out what many believe is the most competitive division in MMA.

Come on Earl. Look at all the P4P rankings on any website. No one has Fedor at the top.

Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 17, 2011, 08:47:01 AM
aside from zulu and hong man choi (who i think would be a matchup nightmare for most) who are the b level fighters he fought recently?

yes anything can happen in a fight, which is why you should be in awe of Fedor winning for so long, just like his peers are in awe, gsp got knocked out by a can, yet you knock Fedor for beating all of the "cans"

i'm well aware he isn't at the top anymore

no one has ali at the top anymore, ronnie coleman wouldn't beat branch warren these days

see my point ::)

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 17, 2011, 10:22:59 AM
Neither Ali nor Ronnie compete today ::)

I'm still waiting for a list of the elite fighters that Fedor beat in order to be considered the greatest p4p of all time. So far all you've come up with are Tim Silvia, Mark Coleman and Randleman.  Is that it?  You beat those guys and you are the greatest p4p ever?

Lol
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 17, 2011, 11:06:04 AM
they don't compete because they aren't what they used to be, like Fedor

we all know who Fedor beat, you focus on hong man choi instead of a prime nog

wnobody cares about little twinks like gsp, why do the small guys always have to be the "best p4p"?

his loss against sarra prevents this, it happened during his prime, if he beats anderson silva i'll change my mind

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: WeightPSHR on May 17, 2011, 11:50:20 AM
As usual Earl, I will pwn you with facts.  You're impressed with Coleman?  He's got a 16-10 record.  Randleman?  His record is 17-16!  LOL!!!  Bro you're reaching.  This is exactly what I am talking about.  Fedor beat a bunch of overhyped fighters.

You ask when does GSP ever finish opponents?  How about 60% of the time!  That's right, 60% of his wins are by KO or submissions.  He has NEVER been dominated in a fight.  He's been caught twice and avenged both of those losses.  Take a look at the long list of ELITE fighters that he has demolished: Fitch, Hughes, Alves, Koschek, BJ Penn, Sherk, etc.  


The last line in your post is hilarious.  "beat the most amount of impressive fighters"...lol.  You can't come up with any names other than crocop & Nog.  Fedor has beat a long list of cans with crappy records.  He's been hurt/dominated in multiple fights.  He's got two losses against B level players that he will never avenge. And, now he is trying to get back on the win column by doing what he does best...fighting guys he thinks he can beat easily.  Seriously.  Hendo at heavyweight....that's just sad.


The face of a man who has "completely dominated" everyone he's faced...LMAO!

(http://www.mmaroot.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/fedor-emelianenko-2.jpg)

(http://www.mmainterplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Fedor-Emelianenko-eye-e1297596388705.jpg)

(http://sportsnickel.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Fedors-Face.jpg)

(http://www.sergiocunhamma.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fedor-335x220.jpg)

He never recovered. I think each one of these took a year or two off of his career. Damn, brutal, especially seeing that in most of these fights Fedor was at least a 5-1 favorite.
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 17, 2011, 12:21:30 PM
they don't compete because they aren't what they used to be, like Fedor

we all know who Fedor beat, you focus on hong man choi instead of a prime nog

wnobody cares about little twinks like gsp, why do the small guys always have to be the "best p4p"?

his loss against sarra prevents this, it happened during his prime, if he beats anderson silva i'll change my mind

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No one cares about GSP?  Hmmm...how many PPVs has GSP sold vs Fedor? How many people know GSP vs Fedor???

We all know who Fedor beat?  Lol. Yes, CC & Nog. Who else?  Who else did he beat to be considered the greates p4p ever ???
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 17, 2011, 12:25:34 PM
more people know the kardashian girls, what is your point?

fedor, fight finder, sherdog.com

is gsp the only fighter you think has a better resume?  i can live with that, anybody else no way in hell

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 17, 2011, 04:56:45 PM
more people know the kardashian girls, what is your point?

fedor, fight finder, sherdog.com

is gsp the only fighter you think has a better resume?  i can live with that, anybody else no way in hell

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I looked on sherdog and, aside from CC & Nog, all I saw were a bunch of has-beens or cans on Fedor's resume.  Did I miss someone?
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 17, 2011, 07:12:19 PM
I looked on sherdog and, aside from CC & Nog, all I saw were a bunch of has-beens or cans on Fedor's resume.  Did I miss someone?

a year or two from now most of gsp's wins will be "has beens"

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Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: MindSpin on May 17, 2011, 10:43:55 PM
True. But they weren't has beens when he beat them.
Title: Re: Gsp Weightgain
Post by: Earl1972 on May 18, 2011, 08:49:30 AM
True. But they weren't has beens when he beat them.

so who was a "has been" when fedor beat them?

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