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The New England faithful are holding their collective breath........
I am not gloating about this by any stretch of the imagination. I do not like to see injuries happen and this was tough to watch. I really hope it's nothing serious.
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That looked deliberate to me. I'm sure the NFL tells players all the time not to go for the knees, but the penalties aren't sufficient to disuade some morons.
The NFL has to revise it's rules on shots like this as well as rules on pass interference. On a play like this, the defensive player should lose the entire season or the same number of games as the player injured at the least.
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The New England faithful are holding their collective breath........
I am not gloating about this by any stretch of the imagination. I do not like to see injuries happen and this was tough to watch. I really hope it's nothing serious.
What a shitty start to the season! They got the win, and that's great, but I hope Brady will be ok. I saw the hit up close, and it looks like sprained ligaments to me. He walked off the field pretty much under his own power....so thats positive. Given the pats schedule, if Brady has to miss 4 weeks (including the week four bye), I don't see them losing to much. They can beat both the Jets in the Phins with Cassel, and even if they lost one of those two games, Brady could come back week five 2-1. Thats IF it's only a sprained knee. Without Brady the pats will make the playoffs, but there is no way they will go past the first round.
The positives:
Defense looks great. Seymour is finally healthy, and I don't see a better DLine in the NFL than Wilfok, Warren and Seymour
The pats had a great Draft. Wilhite, Wheatley and Mayo looked great
Pats running game is going to be very potent this year
Cassel did what he is supposed to do.
Negatives:
Oline blocked very poorly at times, but looked all-pro at times. I think when Neal comes back they will be way more consitant on the left side. Mankins, Light and Koppen are all-pro's, but Nick K sucks.
Brady got hurt
Fumbles by Moss and Welker
poor play calling from Mcdaniels at times
I thought the pats putting Crable on the inactive list was a mistake
I hope Brady is ok. I would never wish injury on any player, and I was looking forward to see the season unfold with one of the best players to ever live.
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That looked deliberate to me.
The NFL has to revise it's rules on shots like this as well as rules on pass interference. On a play like this, the defensive player should lose the entire season or the same number of games as the player injured at the least.
I didn't want to go there, but I agree. That lb was on the ground and crawled up on Brady's knee. He made the hit on Brady after he released the ball, and he had no chance to stop the play. It looked like they where trying to hit him in the knee that was bothering him from last season. Thats football though, and if he comes back, he will be back with a hair across his ass to light it up.
Wilfork did some dirty shit last year, so I am not going to bitch about what happened, thats life in the NFL.
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That ASS should be out for the season for that hit, period if the NFL wants to stop it. Most players would agree with that, as it's a potentially career-ending injury for some.
IMO *All* NFL QBs should be wearing knee braces, even if it hinders mobility. There are too many opportunities for these types of injuries, doesn't take much. Hopefully it's only a deep bruise or something like that vs. a Carson Palmer injury, which happened about the same way.
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That ASS should be out for the season for that hit, period if the NFL wants to stop it. Most players would agree with that, as it's a potentially career-ending injury for some.
IMO *All* NFL QBs should be wearing knee braces, even if it hinders mobility. There are too many opportunities for these types of injuries, doesn't take much. Hopefully it's only a deep bruise or something like that vs. a Carson Palmer injury, which happened about the same way.
Thats what I was thinking..... Sadly, it does look alot like what happened to Palmer, and if thats the case, he is done for the year.
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Thats what I was thinking..... Sadly, it does look alot like what happened to Palmer, and if thats the case, he is done for the year.
Depends on the severity of the impact, and Brady's knee. Hopefully it'll be one of those 6 week things.
Knee braces have to be mandatory for QBs, it's too easy for someone 300 lb. + 30 lb. of equipment to do serious damage to someone just standing there.
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Depends on the severity of the impact, and Brady's knee. Hopefully it'll be one of those 6 week things.
I saw the hit up close, and it looked like he was able to offset some of the torque from his left ligament, to his hips. He walked off under his own power, and seemed to have control of his movements. I don't think its a terrible thing if he comes back week five. His foot was bothering him, and he was rumored to have a bone bruise during the pre-season. I think the pats can stay .500 until he returns, and start week five 2-1 at the worst.
Then again you never know....Bill was joking about what happened in the post-game press conference( joking that none of the reporters might have some intrest in what happened to Tom), but you can never tell with these things. Realistically the pats are a 9 - 7 to 10 - 6 (at best) team without Brady.
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I LOVE IT ;D ;D ;D
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I LOVE IT ;D ;D ;D
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Why would you be happy to see Brady get hurt? Real fans don't gloat when great players are injured. I know I wouldn't laugh if big Ben was injured. Sour grapes is what I think off when people gloat about HOF players going down.
The hate for Brady comes from his skill, because he is always respectfull of his opponents, and is good friends with many players from rival teams....including Manning.
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Why would you be happy to see Brady get hurt? Real fans don't gloat when great players are injured. I know I wouldent love if big Ben was injured. Sour grapes is what I think off when people gloat about HOF players going down.
i'm happy because i'm tired of seeing him kick my teams ass
hell yeah i have sour grapes :)
every teams chances have gotten a whole lot better if he's out for awhile 8)
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i'm happy because i'm tired of seeing him kick my teams ass
hell yeah i have sour grapes :)
every teams chances have gotten a whole lot better if he's out for awhile 8)
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Thats true.... I thought you where mocking Brady getting injured. I wonder if this injury will end his season. It will be really weird to see another QB running this team.
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i'm happy because i'm tired of seeing him kick my teams ass
hell yeah i have sour grapes :)
every teams chances have gotten a whole lot better if he's out for awhile 8)
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Earl, that's a very short-minded thing to say. You should never admit to being happy about an NFL player getting injured.
Just joking...I really hope it's nothing serious for Brady. I hate seeing injuries happen to any NFL player.
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Sucks for Pats fans (and anyone who took Brady in the first in their FF leagues). Hope he is okay.
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Thats true.... I thought you where mocking Brady getting injured. I wonder if this injury will end his season. It will be really weird to see another QB running this team.
you probably thought the same when bledsoe went down
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I LOVE IT ;D ;D ;D
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You're a simpleton. Career-threatening injuries no one deserves, outside of guys like Warren Sapp that remind me of your attitude.
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Watching Bill joke around was weird and hopefully a good sign. They are playing the Jets next week so expect a full on psyop campaign worthy of our best efforts in Iraq. We'll hear everything from he died of wounds to amputation....none of which any loyal Pats fans will be able to draw conclusions from. It won't stop me from trolling the Pats forums for news and rumors from "some guy who heard from his cousin who saw Brady put into a body bag" etc but we won't know anything until the injury report comes out on Friday.
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you probably thought the same when bledsoe went down
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I did.... But Brady is one of the greatest qb's ever, Bledsoe was good, but not great.
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Watching Bill joke around was weird and hopefully a good sign. They are playing the Jets next week so expect a full on psyop campaign worthy of our best efforts in Iraq. We'll hear everything from he died of wounds to amputation....none of which any loyal Pats fans will be able to draw conclusions from. It won't stop me from trolling the Pats forums for news and rumors from "some guy who heard from his cousin who saw Brady put into a body bag" etc but we won't know anything until the injury report comes out on Friday.
I heard it was a pcl. Shit man, with the way Belichick handles inside information, we never see Brady again.
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Speak on it. Ignoring reality will ensure that thugs like this will be rewarded.
Randy Moss on 'dirty' play
Various Patriots players were asked their thoughts on the hit that knocked Tom Brady out of today’s game. Receiver Randy Moss was the most outspoken about the play:
“I don’t really want to get into it, but me personally, I think it was dirty,” he said.
“Like I said, I didn’t really see anything; I was running down the field. When I came back in [and watched it], it looked dirty to me. I’ve never been a dirty player. I honestly don’t even know how to play dirty. I just play the game. Any time you see something like that, that looks foul, it looks dirty, it opens your eyes. So, me personally, it looked dirty.”
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Out for the year if this is accurate. That guy should be out of the league for the season. I like the new commissioner, he might do something more appropriate.
So far we had heard absolutely nothing about the severity, but Tom Curran of NBC Sports says that one NY Jets player told him that it’s a torn ACL.
“Everybody I talked to said it’s a torn ACL,” said the Jets player. “Players AND coaches. When we came in here that’s what people were saying, ‘Brady’s got a torn ACL.’ ”
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You're a simpleton. Career-threatening injuries no one deserves, outside of guys like Warren Sapp that remind me of your attitude.
you're a simpleton for not realizing the chances of your team going all the way have greatly increased
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Not official yet but there are several reports that say Brady has a torn ACL.
Think Matt Cassel is ready for the big time?
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according to yahoo.com, he's done for the year.
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Body88?
Waiting on your 'state of the union' address??
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New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady limped off the field after he was hit in the left knee midway through the first quarter of Sunday's 17-10 victory over the Kansas City Chiefs. Yahoo! Sports, citing a team source, said Brady suffered serious ligament damage and will miss the remainder of the regular season
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Body88?
Waiting on your 'state of the union' address??
I think its safe to assume that Brady is done for the year. Looking at the video, it looks like an MCL to me. Honestly, the patriots have little to no shot at much more than a playoff birth without Brady. Matt is not Tom, and Tom makes a huge impact on this team. The pats have enough talent to win the east if Cassel plays well, but without Tom I doubt the do much in the playoffs......not because they don't have talent, or great coaching, but because Tom is so freaking clutch. Although, Carolina beat the Chargers, Chicago is beating the colts, and the Jets almost lost to the fins.....so who knows.
Oh well, I will still root for the pats just as hard, and hope they can make something happen. Maybe by the grace of God he will be able to return by week six.....doubt it :-\
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too much debating in this thread, brady is done for the year,end of story. they still have enough talent to finish top 2 in they're division
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Sickening watching that especially since it was avoidable but I think there could be a silver lining for the Pats. IMO they weren't going far in the playoffs with that defense, that o-line and last year's baggage, despite the inexusably easy schedule the NFL awarded them. In the longer-term i think it better that they flounder now, consider it a rebuilding year and get better draft picks for next year than to fall just a little short as i expected them to. This year's team looks about on par with the team 2 years ago at best, in terms of where it would end up.
They need serious defensive youth and speed across most of the board in addition to help with pass protection and if possible an impact running back.
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Hate to see a career threatening injury on ANYONE. But I like my Stillers chances a whole lot more after today. Jax lost, Dolts looked anemic against the Bares, and the rest of the AFC North looked terrible. Cincy is the worst team in the AFC. (Sorry Up, but Flacco aint the savior)
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Oh well, I will still root for the pats just as hard, and hope they can make something happen. Maybe by the grace of God he will be able to return by week six.....doubt it :-\
true fandom. i think if you guys just make it to the playoffs you'll be a favorite in the afc. this year is going to be a "Rocky Balboa" type of year for you guys, aged veteran who also is a huge underdog. as much as i dont like the Pats, im not even going to count them out a little. what do they say about an injured animal or whatevers...
although i thought your defense looked a little slow, in contrast to what you posted earlier.
my fins still need a few more years.. ::)
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i cant confirm this but a guy at work last night told me he heard hes out for 8 months
sucks to see this happen to someone so great...well to anyone actually but...
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Why would you be happy to see Brady get hurt? Real fans don't gloat when great players are injured. I know I wouldn't laugh if big Ben was injured. Sour grapes is what I think off when people gloat about HOF players going down.
The hate for Brady comes from his skill, because he is always respectfull of his opponents, and is good friends with many players from rival teams....including Manning.
Wow....haven't been on getbig forever but I figured there would be a thread on this. I bet he is done for the year...as much as I am NOT a NE fan I still don't like to hear of something like this. Don't know why anyone would want to deliberately hurt another player ..especially something as delicate as the knee that could end a career. shamefull. not saying he did it deliberate but if he did he should be gone for good. that aint no way to win.Hopefully he makes it back to 100%
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Sickening watching that especially since it was avoidable but I think there could be a silver lining for the Pats. IMO they weren't going far in the playoffs with that defense, that o-line and last year's baggage, despite the inexusably easy schedule the NFL awarded them. In the longer-term i think it better that they flounder now, consider it a rebuilding year and get better draft picks for next year than to fall just a little short as i expected them to. This year's team looks about on par with the team 2 years ago at best, in terms of where it would end up.
They need serious defensive youth and speed across most of the board in addition to help with pass protection and if possible an impact running back.
It was tough to watch, but I am confident he will be back next year ready to go.
Some thoughts on your critique of the pats:
Mayo, Wheatley, Wilhite, Slater, Gutton and Crable are all starting, and played great. The pats defensive backfield is very young this year. Wheatley and Wilhite are rookies, Meriweather is a second year player, Sanders is a third year player, and Hobbs is only in his fourth year. The only vets out there are Harrison and Delta. The new pats secondary has a ton of speed, thats their biggest asset. Harrison is the only "old" guy back there. I thought Wheatley and Wilhite played awesome yesterday. However, they do need to draft another db, and Rodneys replacement.
The oldest player on the pats defensive line is 28 years old. Bruchi and Vrabel are the only "old" players in the lb core. Thomas is not that old, Alexander is a third year pro, and Mayo and Crable are rookies. The pats defense as a whole is pretty young, imo.
The pats do need a blocking tight end to help with pass protection, but when Neal is in there the line is pretty much all-pro across the board. Neal is hurt, and Watson was out with an injury yesterday. The O-Line is the same line as last year. Three all pros (Mankins, Light and Koppen) and an above average starter in Yates. Since Yates has been hurt the right side of the line has been inconsistent, but that will improve. Nick K and Hochenstein are average at best, so the pats should draft another starter on the ride side of the line. But, as a whole the line is above average imo.
The NFL didn't award them an easy schedule. The schedule was made up in 2002. The NFL uses a formula to makes its schedules years in advance, and only divisional games are decided by your previous record. It looks like the AFC east will be pretty good this year.
Imo the pats need:
Another SS
Blocking tight end
O - line starter to replace Kasczer
4th wr
O-line depth
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It was tough to watch, but I am confident he will be back next year ready to go.
Some thoughts on your critique of the pats:
Mayo, Wheatley, Wilhite, Slater, Gutton and Crable are all starting, and played great. The pats defensive backfield is very young this year. Wheatley and Wilhite are rookies, Meriweather is a second year player, Sanders is a third year player, and Hobbs is only in his fourth year. The only vets out there are Harrison and Delta. The new pats secondary has a ton of speed, thats their biggest asset. Harrison is the only "old" guy back there. I thought Wheatley and Wilhite played awesome yesterday. However, they do need to draft another db, and Rodneys replacement.
The oldest player on the pats defensive line is 28 years old. Bruchi and Vrabel are the only "old" players in the lb core. Thomas is not that old, Alexander is a third year pro, and Mayo and Crable are rookies. The pats defense as a whole is pretty young, imo.
The pats do need a blocking tight end to help with pass protection, but when Neal is in there the line is pretty much all-pro across the board. Neal is hurt, and Watson was out with an injury yesterday. The O-Line is the same line as last year. Three all pros (Mankins, Light and Koppen) and an above average starter in Yates. Since Yates has been hurt the right side of the line has been inconsistent, but that will improve. Nick K and Hochenstein are average at best, so the pats should draft another starter on the ride side of the line. But, as a whole the line is above average imo.
The NFL didn't award them an easy schedule. The schedule was made up in 2002. The NFL uses a formula to makes its schedules years in advance, and only divisional games are decided by your previous record. It looks like the AFC east will be pretty good this year.
Imo the pats need:
Another SS
Blocking tight end
O - line starter to replace Kasczer
4th wr
O-line depth
He'll be back. He's the best in the business with his head and arm...not his feet.
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Of course Brady was my 1st pick on my Fantasy team!
DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT!
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It's all good though, I still won the first game for sure........72+ points (McFadden tonite)
Body88, you think i should pick up Castle?
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Whatever they have now, they need more new bodies in there and seasoning of the new guys they have now in order to be great again, so a rebuilding year and better drafts would be in their longer-term interest anyway. I think they fall short with what's there at the end of the year even with Brady, something like what happened 2 years ago.
Casell should be at least solid, maybe better. Coaching means a lot and NE will do that. Farve would've been intriguing but wouldn't have worked, he makes too many mistakes for NE. Simms could be good especially with those coaches.
As far as the weak schedule, the NFL used to put it together based on the previous year's performance, which makes more sense than doing it years in advance.
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Hate to see a career threatening injury on ANYONE. But I like my Stillers chances a whole lot more after today. Jax lost, Dolts looked anemic against the Bares, and the rest of the AFC North looked terrible. Cincy is the worst team in the AFC. (Sorry Up, but Flacco aint the savior)
We'll soon see. Still have 15 games to go there, chief. The jury may still be out but he's off to a decent start in my book.
I was just saying that looked very poised out there for his first game. Did not see any deer in the headlights look and he managed the offense well. As soon as the competition steps up, we'll see how he adjusts. The Ravens' 2nd half schedule is brutal.
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He'll be back. He's the best in the business with his head and arm...not his feet.
You forgot to mention he's the best in the business at securing grade A pussy. That brazilian chick will suck him back to recovery in no time.
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You forgot to mention he's the best in the business at securing grade A pussy. That brazilian chick will suck him back to recovery in no time.
Good for him. Unlike guys like Peyton Manning, Brady seems like a genuinely nice guy so it was sad to see him taken out with something vicious like that. I talked to a guy here who chauffeured Peyton, Eli and his dad Archie around town the day before the Superbowl, said Peyton was bitchy the whole time whch doesn't surprise me. Despite the hype i don't think Manning's in Brady's league as a player let alone as a person.
As far as recovery, it's not that hard to figure out. Typically ACL replacement surgery happens a month or so after injury, after the swelling's gone then there's 7-9 months recovery. I want to repeat that i think knee braces should be a given for QBs, the downside in terms of mobility's worth it re: protection except for QBs that have to rely overwhelmingly on running. They have new, lighter ones than what Pastorini used.
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I can understand people thinking it was a cheap shot but in the guy's defence he was trying to make a play.
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Good for him. Unlike guys like Peyton Manning, Brady seems like a genuinely nice guy so it was sad to see him taken out with something vicious like that. I talked to a guy here who chauffeured Peyton, Eli and his dad Archie around town the day before the Superbowl, said Peyton was bitchy the whole time whch doesn't surprise me. Despite the hype i don't think Manning's in Brady's league as a player let alone as a person.
As far as recovery, it's not that hard to figure out. Typically ACL replacement surgery happens a month or so after injury, after the swelling's gone then there's 7-9 months recovery. I want to repeat that i think knee braces should be a given for QBs, the downside in terms of mobility's worth it re: protection except for QBs that have to rely overwhelmingly on running. They have new, lighter ones than what Pastorini used.
I spoke with a cab driver while getting a ride to Barton G in Miami last week, who said that he drove Brady all over the city when he came to visit. Imagine that, a big star like Brady taking a cab around town. Of course the cabbie could have been lying, but he seemed pretty honest.
I have met Brady a few times ( through a Family connection I have with a pats coach), and he is a nice guy. A lot of the people who wish harm on him, would change their mind if they got a few minutes to talk to him. He is one of those people who makes everyone feel like they are really important when you are talking to them. Makes eye contact with you, does not give you the superstar treatment. Also, I live in the Back Bay area of Boston ( where Brady has his townhouse), and he can be seen walking Newbury with Gisele a few times a year....talking with fans, and stopping in to Sonsie for a drink. Pretty cool.
Honestly giving the guy a year off, and getting a few impact starters in the 09 draft could make the pats a defensive Juggernaut again.
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I can understand people thinking it was a cheap shot but in the guy's defence he was trying to make a play.
Its all relative. I'm not going to say much, because Wilfork took out Losmen last year in a cheapish play. I'm impressed that Manning has never gotten hurt over his career (up until now Brady was the same way). It sucks to see a megastar go down, and it sucks even worse if you had him for FF!
Injuries are a part of the game.
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Its all relative. I'm not going to say much, because Wilfork took out Losmen last year in a cheapish play. I'm impressed that Manning has never gotten hurt over his career (up until now Brady was the same way). It sucks to see a megastar go down, and it sucks even worse if you had him for FF!
Injuries are a part of the game.
Dude I was feeling bummed about Osi then you see this :-\
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He's out for the season :-\
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Does anyone have a good link to the hit? The brief replay that I saw didn't look dirty, but I need to see it again.
Too bad he's out. Hate to see a great player like him lose a season.
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Does anyone have a good link to the hit? The brief replay that I saw didn't look dirty, but I need to see it again.
Too bad he's out. Hate to see a great player like him lose a season.
Me too. I am not a Pats fan, but I enjoy seeing dominate teams - 90s Bulls, late 90s Yankees..etc. The Pats fit that category, and I thought they would be easy favorites to win the SB.
The impact this one player has on the entire AFC is pretty huge. That says something.
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Youtube will probably eventually delete this, in which there'll be more on there or go to nfl.com. Looks to me like the defender fell down then deliberately lunged at him, didn't have to go there and NFL players are specifically told not to go for the knees or lower as he did. He could've instead tripped him up or gone for the hips. To send the right message to the league, that guy should be out for the season or as long as Brady's out, whichever's longer.
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Thanks for the link. That wasn't a hit. The guy was blocked into the ground then grabbed Brady's legs. I wouldn't call that a dirty play.
Anyone know if there is a league rule regarding tackling below the waist?
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Man that video sucks. Why couldn't Sammy Morris hold Pollard down for a second more. Shitty execution on that chop block! Ah well, thats life in the NFL.
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I agree with this.
NFL: Pollard hit is legal
Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff September 8, 2008 02:33 PM
The NFL's officiating department has reviewed the Bernard Pollard hit that injured the left knee of Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, and has deemed it within the rules.
NFL rules state that "no defensive player who has an unrestricted path to the quarterback may hit him flagrantly in the area of the knee(s) or below when approaching in any direction".
But the Pollard hit was deemed legal because "the defensive player was coming off and affected by a block by the offense", according to a league spokesman.
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2008/09/nfl_pollard_hit.html
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Thanks for the link. That wasn't a hit. The guy was blocked into the ground then grabbed Brady's legs. I wouldn't call that a dirty play.
LOL you agree with a thug who of course is going to say this. You probably believed George Atkinson too.
Question: After reviewing the play (of Tom Brady’s knee injury), do you think the play was dirty?
Belichick: "It doesn’t really matter what I think. The officials officate the game. I am sure they will handle it. We have always taught our players that it is their responsibility to hit the quarterback above the knees and below the shoulders."
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Anyone got any suggestions for good QB's that aren't probably on a 12 team roster? (My other QB is Jeff Garcia)
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LOL you agree with a thug who of course is going to say this. You probably believed George Atkinson too.
Question: After reviewing the play (of Tom Brady’s knee injury), do you think the play was dirty?
Belichick: "It doesn’t really matter what I think. The officials officate the game. I am sure they will handle it. We have always taught our players that it is their responsibility to hit the quarterback above the knees and below the shoulders."
I agree with the NFL's officiating department.
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I agree with the NFL's officiating department.
Complete lack of imagination. Were you ever a serious athlete? Anyone who has been would know that the guy had time to adjust his tragectory, but didn't. In fact he aimed for where he hit him.
Interesting how some want to be politically correct and say nothing, on a board where it doesn't matter.
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Anyone got any suggestions for good QB's that aren't probably on a 12 team roster? (My other QB is Jeff Garcia)
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I'd grab Cassel. He still has Moss and Welker and a well coached team.
Pennington should be available. What other QBs are FAs?
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Complete lack of imagination. Were you ever a serious athlete? Anyone who has been would know that the guy had time to adjust his tragectory, but didn't.
Me a "serious athlete"? Depends on who you talk to. :)
What kind of imagination do you need to look at a clip, reach a conclusion, then have your conclusion affirmed by the people who make and interpret the rules?
The guy was on the ground. It wasn't a hit. How can you "adjust tragectory" when you're on the ground? Didn't look like he could. He was blocked into the ground. That's why the league office said the play was legal.
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Me a "serious athlete"? Depends on who you talk to. :)
What kind of imagination do you need to look at a clip, reach a conclusion, then have your conclusion affirmed by the people who make and interpret the rules?
The guy was on the ground. It wasn't a hit. How can you "adjust tragectory" when you're on the ground? Didn't look like he could. He was blocked into the ground. That's why the league office said the play was legal.
That you're clueless is no revelation, you alway believe that Kobe's a good team player and that the Colts had no shot the year they won it all. LOL
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I'd grab Cassel. He still has Moss and Welker and a well coached team.
Pennington should be available. What other QBs are FAs?
I'll check in a bit when i get home. But Cassel should be available, unless a team who lost this weekend grabs him. I still scored 70+ points, that's with Turner having the game of his life vs the lions and the Bills stuffing the Seahawks
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That you're clueless is no revelation, you alway believe that Kobe's a good team player and that the Colts had no shot the year they won it all. LOL
LOL. Who holds the distinction of saying Tiger is erratic and overrated? :)
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Spygate karma. True story.
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Spygate karma. True story.
My friend who's an avid Pats fan said this, but also said it was also related to hanging a banner celebrating a 16-0 regular season in a year they llost the SuperBowl.
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Spygate karma. True story.
Sour grapes. Brady is a good person, and most players in the NFL like him.
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My friend who's an avid Pats fan said this, but also said it was also related to hanging a banner celebrating a 16-0 regular season in a year they llost the SuperBowl.
Are you saying that going 16-0 in todays NFL is not an accomplishment worth celebrating? Also, why do people care that they hung a banner? I think it was done for the players, who worked so hard, and know how hard it is to win 16 games in a row. Every year someone is an AFC champion, there has never been a undefeated 16 game NFL football team.
Yes the pats lost the superbowl, but they have the right to remember something no one else has done,imo.
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I'd grab Cassel. He still has Moss and Welker and a well coached team.
Pennington should be available. What other QBs are FAs?
Yeah, I'll go for Cassel Pennington Edwards and then Ryan in that order. Or do you think Pennington is a better choice over Cassel?
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My friend who's an avid Pats fan said this, but also said it was also related to hanging a banner celebrating a 16-0 regular season in a year they llost the SuperBowl.
As a guy who has routinely made fun of the Colts AFC championship participation banners...yes..maybe something less visible.
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Yeah, I'll go for Cassel Pennington Edwards and then Ryan in that order. Or do you think Pennington is a better choice over Cassel?
why not alex smith?
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Are you saying that going 16-0 in todays NFL is not an accomplishment worth celebrating? Also, why do people care that they hung a banner? I think it was done for the players, who worked so hard, and know how hard it is to win 16 games in a row. Every year someone is an AFC champion, there has never been a undefeated 16 game NFL football team.
Yes the pats lost the superbowl, but they have the right to remember something no one else has done,imo.
No, I'm not saying that - my friend is.
It's an incredible accomplishment, which should be noted, it just seems empty to me after what they've done. A football season is about winning the Superbowl. The Patriots are about winning Superbowls, and should define themselves as such. I thought the fact they got rings for it was ridiculous. If I were a player, I wouldn't wear it had I had SB rings to wear instead.
When the Yankees won more regular season games than anyone in '98 it would have been worthless had they not finished off the season with a WS win.
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Yeah, I'll go for Cassel Pennington Edwards and then Ryan in that order. Or do you think Pennington is a better choice over Cassel?
Pennington is a good QB when healthy, but I don't like his supporting cast. Cassel is an unknown, but I'd take a gamble on him with their staff, Moss, etc. I think Miami is really going to struggle on O. Do you have room for both? Who is your QB2?
Personally, I'd avoid the rookie (Ryan), because rookies almost always struggle.
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Sour grapes. Brady is a good person, and most players in the NFL like him.
I have no problem with tom brady, i think he's a great guy and a a great player. This is karma against the patriots organization for the past in my opinion. Its up to you to decide if you believe in karma.
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Its Bill B's fault for taking Brady off the injured list...Brady has been on that thing for a few years now every single game...Always listed as "probable"...That game was the first game he was not listed...Never should have changed a good thing...
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Pennington is a good QB when healthy, but I don't like his supporting cast. Cassel is an unknown, but I'd take a gamble on him with their staff, Moss, etc. I think Miami is really going to struggle on O. Do you have room for both? Who is your QB2?
Personally, I'd avoid the rookie (Ryan), because rookies almost always struggle.
Jeff Garcia is my back up.
Your reasoning makes sense. I'll go for Cassel and hope no one wants him that's has a losing record.
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body, HH6 and other patriots fans, sorry to see this happened to Brady. Not ever cool to see this kind of thing happen to any player/team. Hope your team steps up in a bad spot, I sure they will. He'll be back next year. Then we'll see them get their asses kicked royal ;D
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They can hire Peyton Manning.....ok that aint funny. :-X HH6 would kill himself.
sorry to see TB get hurt. Hope he makes a full recovery.
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Honestly...and I guess after axe murdering my neighbors and burning some villages, I've come to realize that i might enjoy this season. There are no expectations. I had come to expect them to win every game. i expected almost every pass to be perfect, the defense to stop everybody. Its not healthy. Now we have some ambiguity. I have no idea how Cassel will play or how the defense will step up.
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Honestly...and I guess after axe murdering my neighbors and burning some villages, I've come to realize that i might enjoy this season. There are no expectations. I had come to expect them to win every game. i expected almost every pass to be perfect, the defense to stop everybody. Its not healthy. Now we have some ambiguity. I have no idea how Cassel will play or how the defense will step up.
Sounds like you are rationalizing. :)
I had Brady as my number 1 pick in FF and had McFadden as #4. They are both hurt now. lol
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Moss was my #1 pick. Hopefully Cassell goes back to the old Culpepper method of throwing tons of passes to Moss and just having him jump up and catch them.
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AAAHAHAHAH.....There's NO injury!!! What injury? It's 2004, and things are great.....nothing to worry about this year, AAAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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AAAHAHAHAH.....There's NO injury!!! What injury? It's 2004, and things are great.....nothing to worry about this year, AAAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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that's at heinz field >:(
i hope his leg falls off :D
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AAAHAHAHAH.....There's NO injury!!! What injury? It's 2004, and things are great.....nothing to worry about this year, AAAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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haha. nice Body88----pretty funny.
on another note, Don't feel too bad for Tom Brady. Currently the only dilemma in his life so far is hand selecting which two model friends of Giselle get to take turns sucking Brady's dick at the same time.
ahhh, the life of a coveted pro athlete. Makes me fucking sick. >:(
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haha. nice Body88----pretty funny.
on another note, Don't feel too bad for Tom Brady. Currently the only dilemma in his life so far is hand selecting which two model friends of Giselle get to take turns sucking Brady's dick at the same time.
ahhh, the life of a coveted pro athlete. Makes me fucking sick. >:(
True. The lucky prick. On a side note, there was just some good news released in regards to Brady's injury. Torn ACL and MCL, but no further damage. In comparison, Carson Palmer tore his MCL, ACL, tore cartilage and dislocated his kneecap. Brady should be good to go by next season.
Sources: Brady tore ACL and MCL
Patriots QB will have surgery in a month, face 6-9 months of rehab afterwards
By Shira Springer
Globe Staff / September 10, 2008
Patriots Quarterback Tom Brady suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) and torn medial collateral ligament (MCL) in his left knee, NFL sources confirmed today. Medical tests on the knee, including an MRI performed Monday, indicated no damage to other knee ligaments and no torn cartilage. The typical course of action for such an injury is to wait 4-6 weeks for the MCL tear to heal, then reconstruct the ACL. Brady will likely undergo surgery in approximately one month and face 6-9 months of recovery and rehabilitation, barring any complications.
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True. He should be back strong next year. I hate to see the great players go down.
Still 6-9 months of rehab is no picnic. But with Giselle slobbing his knob on a nightly basis, he shoul be up to speed in no time.
Damn, can you imagine being Tom Brady lying in bed waiting for Giselle to finish freshing up in the bathroom right before you're about to fuck her?
What a charmed life.....
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True. He should be back strong next year. I hate to see the great players go down.
Still 6-9 months of rehab is no picnic. But with Giselle slobbing his knob on a nightly basis, he shoul be up to speed in no time.
Damn, can you imagine being Tom Brady lying in bed waiting for Giselle to finish freshing up in the bathroom right before you're about to fuck her?
What a charmed life.....
Or when she bends over, you crack the egg, and think about how you are about to man-handle a woman who makes 30 million per year. Sigh!
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It's an incredible accomplishment, which should be noted, it just seems empty to me after what they've done. A football season is about winning the Superbowl. The Patriots are about winning Superbowls, and should define themselves as such. I thought the fact they got rings for it was ridiculous. If I were a player, I wouldn't wear it had I had SB rings to wear instead.
All players in the super bowl get a ring, just not as nice or as big as the winners. Same thing in baseball. I remember Bill Buckner selling his ALC ring on e-bay.
Try to get Vick on early parole.
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call me crazy but i have a bad feeling Big Ben will join brady on the IR some time this season :-\
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call me crazy but i have a bad feeling Big Ben will join brady on the IR some time this season :-\
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Fuck that. I need Big Ben to lead me to fantasy prominence.
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call me crazy but i have a bad feeling Big Ben will join brady on the IR some time this season :-\
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Lol, yeah I heard Martha Fleishman is out there in a bulldozer looking for him.
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Lol, yeah I heard Martha Fleishman is out there in a bulldozer looking for him.
nothing that bitch does would surprise me
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