Author Topic: stavios update 18 weeks out from his show (Read 86699 times)

Stavios · « **Reply #25 on:** February 25, 2011, 08:56:49 AM »

Quote from: Lord of the Roidz on February 25, 2011, 08:43:16 AM

Why not take a couple of Provirons a day. The DHT will keep you from getting lethargic and it will keep your libido strong. It gives you a good non aromatizing androgen in you which is important if you want to feel good when you drop test.

Yeah that might be a good idea, budget is tight tho for this prep so that's why I wasn't taking it.
I like to use proviron in most of my cycles usually !

Meso: Strenght is great, I try not to push too hard since I injured my shoulder once again 2 weeks ago, but in most of the exercices I did this week the weights were still up a bit !

I am like you, I always get stronger as I diet for a show (exept for squats)

flexingtonsteele · « **Reply #26 on:** February 25, 2011, 09:01:56 AM »

Hey stavy,

Ever try to place your carbs in meal 1 and in your pretraining meal (kinda like what chris aceto recco's ) instead of pre and post workout?

Rearden Metal · « **Reply #27 on:** February 25, 2011, 09:59:19 AM »

Quote from: flexingtonsteele on February 25, 2011, 09:01:56 AM

Hey stavy,

Ever try to place your carbs in meal 1 and in your pretraining meal (kinda like what chris aceto recco's ) instead of pre and post workout?

I'm gonna start doing this too.

Rearden Metal · « **Reply #28 on:** February 25, 2011, 10:00:36 AM »

My shoulder is fahked too. I cry warming up with 45lb dumbells for presses and anything past 75 hurts so bad I can't even perform the rep properly. Any advice other than ortho surgery or epic nubain and advil overdose?

Stavios · « **Reply #29 on:** February 25, 2011, 10:22:33 AM »

Quote from: flexingtonsteele on February 25, 2011, 09:01:56 AM

Hey stavy,

Ever try to place your carbs in meal 1 and in your pretraining meal (kinda like what chris aceto recco's ) instead of pre and post workout?

that's my problem with aceto, sometimes I hear him say put your carbs meal 1 and pretraining (post workout is BS)

than in some posts I hear him say to put the carbs post workout

what gives ?

Stavios · « **Reply #30 on:** February 25, 2011, 10:24:51 AM »

Quote from: Rearden Metal on February 25, 2011, 10:00:36 AM

My shoulder is fahked too. I cry warming up with 45lb dumbells for presses and anything past 75 hurts so bad I can't even perform the rep properly. Any advice other than ortho surgery or epic nubain and advil overdose?

what I have is a subluxation, so everytime it hurts I go to my chiropractor.

he put it back into place, I ice it for 2-3 days, than I start training heavy again.

but I haven't been able to do a over-head press for the last 7 years, exept if it's on a machine and I do it very slowly

lesaucer · « **Reply #31 on:** February 25, 2011, 12:11:41 PM »

Quote from: Rearden Metal on February 25, 2011, 10:00:36 AM

My shoulder is fahked too. I cry warming up with 45lb dumbells for presses and anything past 75 hurts so bad I can't even perform the rep properly. Any advice other than ortho surgery or epic nubain and advil overdose?

see a good naturopath

Stavios · « **Reply #32 on:** February 25, 2011, 12:17:47 PM »

Quote from: lesaucer on February 25, 2011, 12:11:41 PM

see a good naturopath

gayer than a naturopath

lesaucer · « **Reply #33 on:** February 25, 2011, 12:43:12 PM »

Quote from: Stavios on February 25, 2011, 12:17:47 PM

gayer than a naturopath

dude I was just like you guys couldnt do shit because of my shoulder and as soon as i told him that he knew exactly my problem and replaced my shoulders. had to train very light for 2 weeks and now, boom i can do heavy behind the neck presses

Stavios · « **Reply #34 on:** February 25, 2011, 12:56:03 PM »

Quote from: lesaucer on February 25, 2011, 12:43:12 PM

dude I was just like you guys couldnt do shit because of my shoulder and as soon as i told him that he knew exactly my problem and replaced my shoulders. had to train very light for 2 weeks and now, boom i can do heavy behind the neck presses

I tought a naturopath was giving you pills and things like that like bee pollen or something

lesaucer · « **Reply #35 on:** February 25, 2011, 01:04:45 PM »

Quote from: Stavios on February 25, 2011, 12:56:03 PM

I tought a naturopath was giving you pills and things like that like bee pollen or something

nah dude I dont think they give pills or maybe only natural products, no lab medication, they only heal you with natural stuff.. NATURopath lol

flexingtonsteele · « **Reply #36 on:** February 25, 2011, 01:48:43 PM »

Quote from: Stavios on February 25, 2011, 10:22:33 AM

that's my problem with aceto, sometimes I hear him say put your carbs meal 1 and pretraining (post workout is BS)

than in some posts I hear him say to put the carbs post workout

what gives ?

Well i know he likes to do carbs earlier in the day.

He also mentions that when dieting that its better to eat pro/fat post workout because carbs pwo shuts down some fat burning hormones in your body.

I remember reading something he wrote where he said he liked to do carbs in the 1st meal because glycogen stores are low and then pre workout so they can be utilized during your training.

Offseason I know he recommends carbs pre and pwo for sure.

flexingtonsteele · « **Reply #37 on:** February 25, 2011, 01:53:22 PM »

Just found this on his q and a.........

Quote from: Chris Aceto;1328899

I think I wrote about that years ago and it became the norm. Here is the deal: When u finish a workout the body increases fat burning hormones that are floating in the blood ...more or less the minute u take in carbs, those fat burning hormones go down. so............yea it makes sesne to eat only protein post training when dieting...THEN have carbs later

Stavios · « **Reply #38 on:** February 25, 2011, 02:22:36 PM »

Quote from: flexingtonsteele on February 25, 2011, 01:53:22 PM

Just found this on his q and a.........

never heard about that before, I see his logic but I don't know..

but I'll start training in the morning soon so I'll have the carbs at the first meal, wich is also going to be my pre workout meal

so no more problems

I feel I burn fat faster this way since I eat protein only the rest of the day

Stavios · « **Reply #39 on:** February 25, 2011, 04:13:51 PM »

ok fellas, I hesitated before posting those but what the hell.

Keep in mind that I am still 18 weeks out there so of course I don't have a lot of separation and waist is kinda bloated

I am 212 in these shots, after 2 days of carbing up (I was 200 yesterday morning wich was way too low at this point)

tbombz · « **Reply #40 on:** February 25, 2011, 05:13:11 PM »

lookin good! big shoulders and a sick V taper. how tall are you stav??

flexingtonsteele · « **Reply #41 on:** February 25, 2011, 05:16:59 PM »

Nice shoulders and arms.

And for 18 weeks out you're in an awesome spot.

Plus for being as tall as you are you look huge for only being 200lbs!

Keep up the good work bro!

Stavios · « **Reply #42 on:** February 25, 2011, 05:29:16 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on February 25, 2011, 05:13:11 PM

lookin good! big shoulders and a sick V taper. how tall are you stav??

5'10 1/2-5'11 I'd say !

WillGrant · « **Reply #43 on:** February 25, 2011, 06:40:57 PM »

Look awesome bro - as Taylor says great looking delts and taper - for 18 weeks out you look fantastic mate.

Will you use any "extra" AI's when you load on drol ? ..Sorry I dont know the protocol that is used with "filling out" and drol - are extra AI's needed at all or no ?

outby43 · « **Reply #44 on:** February 25, 2011, 06:44:59 PM »

wow stav. you have come a long way since I first joined.

Meso_z · « **Reply #45 on:** February 25, 2011, 10:13:38 PM »

Quote from: Stavios on February 25, 2011, 04:13:51 PM

ok fellas, I hesitated before posting those but what the hell.

Keep in mind that I am still 18 weeks out there so of course I don't have a lot of separation and waist is kinda bloated

I am 212 in these shots, after 2 days of carbing up (I was 200 yesterday morning wich was way too low at this point)

wow man looking great..

As for Chsis Aceto. He always says that he works differently with his clients, thus the confusion with post and pre workout carbs...

He believes though, that PREworkout carbs are more important than POSTworkout...not eating carbs post workout speeds up fat-loss but for small periods. use this method as a tool in your diet but dont overdo it (many days)..

g101 · « **Reply #46 on:** February 26, 2011, 12:22:55 AM »

i started using T3 at 50mcg split 2x a day

oooo does it make a difference

i think i have hypothyroidsm or wtver its called gotta get my blood test done to find out for sure

i am neverrrrrrrr tired or angry now
crazzyyyyy energyy

just over all good

btw its pharm grade

Meso_z · « **Reply #47 on:** February 27, 2011, 12:03:24 AM »

Stav, something many European and Arabs do as far as i know to achieve that hard look, is staying clean couple WEEKS before the show (many of the shows are supposed to be tested).
This way, I believe they shed the bloofy androgenic look and come in grainy. I have never tried that though.

L00n · « **Reply #48 on:** February 27, 2011, 12:11:28 AM »

looking good,arms seems a bit flat, any back and legs shots?

Meso_z · « **Reply #49 on:** February 27, 2011, 01:06:58 AM »

Quote from: L00n on February 27, 2011, 12:11:28 AM

looking good,arms seems a bit flat, any back and legs shots?

Are you really Dimitar Dimitrov? If its you, you could offer some good advice.