Zimmerman - charged and pics of gash on head

[Soul Crusher]

Well I dont know about that, if it winds up that they WERE letting white people in on the test beforehand, they have a legitimate complaint and it should be addressed.
I just hope its not another play for "fairness" that winds up placing unqualified people in positions wrongfully.

Where is the proof of that?  Its always a CT when losers fail written exams. 

Did these people fail the exams?  If they failed - then the issue of whether the whites were given the answers is wrong an should be dealt with, but still does nt negate the fact that the blacks also failed.

Sems like typical union bs.   Schmucks all around.     

[Shockwave]

Where is the proof of that?  Its always a CT when losers fail written exams.  

Did these people fail the exams?  If they failed - then the issue of whether the whites were given the answers is wrong an should be dealt with, but still does nt negate the fact that the blacks also failed.

Sems like typical union bs.   Schmucks all around.    

Well yeah, thats what I was saying. They shouldnt change the testing process because they cant get enough black people to pass it. The only issue I see here is them giving the white people the questions ahead of time. Do they have any evidence of them giving the white people the questions? Or is it simply that their test scores are higher?

Because if they have no real evidence and its simply because they dont/cant make equal or better test scores, than this should be thrown out.

If they do have evidence, they should stop it. If the test scores equal out, then great.

If they do have evidence, they stop it and nothing changes, too bad, so sad, you dont make the cut and someone better qualified did. Better luck next time.

[Soul Crusher]

Well yeah, thats what I was saying. They shouldnt change the testing process because they cant get enough black people to pass it, than its a non-issue. The only issue I see here is them giving the white people the questions ahead of time. Do they have any evidence of them giving the white people the questions? Or is it simply that their test scores are higher?

Because if they have no real evidence and its simply because they dont/cant make equal or better test scores, than this should be thrown out.

If they do have evidence, they should stop it. If the test scores equal out, then great.

If they do have evidence, they stop it and nothing changes, too bad, so sad, you dont make the cut and someone better qualified did. Better luck next time.

True - and additionally, the way the economy is right now - you can get great candiates who score w flying colors without the needs for these shennanigans. 

[Soul Crusher]

Dershowitz: Zimmerman prosecutors should be investigated (References Mobile, AL racial beat-down)
The Examiner ^ | April 24, 2012 | Kevin Kervick

Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 4:37:36 PM by 2ndDivisionVet

Harvard Law School Professor Alan Dershowitz believes the prosecution team in the George Zimmerman case should be investigated to see if they committed a criminal act.

On the Glenn Beck radio program today, Professor Dershowitz said he does not believe the Florida prosecution team had sufficient evidence to charge George Zimmerman with second degree murder in the death of Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida. Unless there is additional evidence, Dershowitz believes the second degree murder charge is baseless. Dershowitz added that he does not see any justification for the prosecution to withhold evidence.

Furthermore, in an explosive charge, Dershowitz said he believes the Florida prosecution, may be guilty of committing an ethical violation, and potentially may have committed a criminal act by charging Zimmerman with second degree murder. If the prosecution had access to a photograph showing the bloodied head of Mr. Zimmerman, taken immediately after the incident on February 26, there was no basis for a second degree murder charge, according to Dershowitz. If it were proven that the prosecution had access to the photograph, and filed a second degree murder charge anyway, Dershowitz believes they may be guilty of Subornation of perjury which is a very serious charge.

--snip--

...This is an explosive situation because there has already apparently been violence perpetrated by people who believed they were avenging the death of Trayvon Martin. In a tragic situation that occured in Mobile Alabama yesterday, a mob of African-American adults allegedly attacked a white man who had approached some African-American youth about playing basketball in the street. The mob used chairs, pipes, and paint cans to beat the man who is in critical condition. According to a witness at the scene, one of the attackers allegedly said, 'Now that's justice for Trayvon'....


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[polychronopolous]

These prosecutors should be brought up on criminal charges and Zimmerman should be given some sort of retribution for having his name destroyed by this foolishness. I hope he ends up suing the state.

[Shockwave]

These prosecutors should be brought up on criminal charges and Zimmerman should be given some sort of retribution for having his name destroyed by this foolishness. I hope he ends up suing the state.

He better, because his life is fucking ruined unless he makes enough bank to disappear. Poor bastards life is over, even if he walks. I woudlnt be suprised to hear of some idiot murdering him over this, if he walks.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

You say this: "...as to what happenned which we will never truly know." then you go on to say this:
-"The whole incident would have been prevented if Zimmerman..."
-"The incident was created by Zimmerman..."
      *If no one will never know what truly happened Vince, how do you know the statements above are true?

Moreover, if he is smart...he will NOT take a plea bargain (and he won't) because the chances of him getting convicted are slim to none. 

Additionally, you state: "...he's going to face federal charges of violating Trayvon's civil rights."  This will not happen either, but humor us....what evidence do you have that leads you to make such a statement?

No we won't truly know what happenned.  But its clear that Zimmerman initiated whatever occurred by his actions and he killed someone.  He's not going to walk away a free man by no circumstances and he would be nuts to not take a plea bargain especially since he shot an unarmed person who was clearly not committing any crime. 

As far as federal charges, Obama has already got his number and his ass.  He's going to do some time


Zimmerman prob isn't a racist but he is a fucking idiot who tried to do the job of a police officer which he isn't.

[deadz]

No we won't truly know what happenned.  But its clear that Zimmerman initiated whatever occurred by his actions and he killed someone.  He's not going to walk away a free man by no circumstances and he would be nuts to not take a plea bargain especially since he shot an unarmed person who was clearly not committing any crime. 

As far as federal charges, Obama has already got his number and his ass.  He's going to do some time


Zimmerman prob isn't a racist but he is a fucking idiot who tried to do the job of a police officer which he isn't.

Agreed, this case is completely fucked ala Casey Anthony.

[Shockwave]

No we won't truly knowwhat happenned.  But its clear that Zimmerman initiated whatever occurred by his actions and he killed someone.  He's not going to walk away a free man by no circumstances and he would be nuts to not take a plea bargain especially since he shot an unarmed person who was clearly not committing any crime. 

As far as federal charges, Obama has already got his number and his ass.  He's going to do some time


Zimmerman prob isn't a racist but he is a fucking idiot who tried to do the job of a police officer which he isn't.

Lulz, you have no idea that he initiated whatever occured. You just said you wont truly know what happened, then follow it with "Its clear that Zimmerman.....". Which is bullshit. You may think that following someone is somehow initiating a conflict or a crime, but the law does not.
It doesnt matter if he walked up to his face and started screaming that he was a punk, as long as he didnt touch him its all on Trayvon. If things went down like he said they did, right or wrong, he's going to walk as he committed no crimes.
The prosecutor even admitted she has no evidence to disprove his story - so much so that a defense attorney has suggested bringing charges against HER.
As I said, it may not be right, but as long as he didnt initiate physical contact he didnt commit any crimes. Its not illegal to watch or follow someone. It IS illegal to assault someone because theyre following you.

[SLYY]

No we won't truly know what happenned.  But its clear that Zimmerman initiated whatever occurred by his actions and he killed someone.  He's not going to walk away a free man by no circumstances and he would be nuts to not take a plea bargain especially since he shot an unarmed person who was clearly not committing any crime. 

As far as federal charges, Obama has already got his number and his ass.  He's going to do some time


Zimmerman prob isn't a racist but he is a fucking idiot who tried to do the job of a police officer which he isn't.

I think Shockwave responded pretty well.  Just to reiterate, we don't know what truly happened and therefore it is NOT clear that Zimmerman initiated anything.  Accordingly, chances are high that he will walk away a free man. 

You believe Obama dislikes him and therefore he will have to deal with federal charges?  I don't know why I bother debating on this site sometimes...boredom I guess...

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Lulz, you have no idea that he initiated whatever occured. You just said you wont truly know what happened, then follow it with "Its clear that Zimmerman.....". Which is bullshit. You may think that following someone is somehow initiating a conflict or a crime, but the law does not.
It doesnt matter if he walked up to his face and started screaming that he was a punk, as long as he didnt touch him its all on Trayvon. If things went down like he said they did, right or wrong, he's going to walk as he committed no crimes.
The prosecutor even admitted she has no evidence to disprove his story - so much so that a defense attorney has suggested bringing charges against HER.
As I said, it may not be right, but as long as he didnt initiate physical contact he didnt commit any crimes. Its not illegal to watch or follow someone. It IS illegal to assault someone because theyre following you.

Who followed Trayvon??
Who chased him on foot??
Who had a gun???
Who killed Trayvon???



Zimmerman made a number of poor decisions that night and the police on scene would have arrested him had it not been for the police chief.  If you think you can shoot an unarmed teenager and not do any time or pay any consequences then you are retarded.

[The Ugly]

Who followed Trayvon??
Who chased him on foot??
Who had a gun???
Who killed Trayvon???

Who let the dogs out?

[bigkid]

They will never ever get a 2nd degree murder conviction on him. The media really fucked up on this one.

[SLYY]

Who followed Trayvon??
Who chased him on foot??
Who had a gun???
Who killed Trayvon???



Zimmerman made a number of poor decisions that night and the police on scene would have arrested him had it not been for the police chief.  If you think you can shoot an unarmed teenager and not do any time or pay any consequences then you are retarded.

This statement is completely false.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

They will never ever get a 2nd degree murder conviction on him. The media really fucked up on this one.

Won't even go that far....he'll plead for a lesser charge.  No attorney would advise him to take this to court.

[chaos]

Lol@people that keep throwing up the teenager moniker like its something special....would you all feel different if he was 18? Suddenly he's not a minor so it wouldn't matter anymore?

And Vince, as for your dumbass comment about someone not breaking a window out of a car to go after the occupant, I have seen it happen twice, obviously you know jack shit about violent youth. 

[Shockwave]

Won't even go that far....he'll plead for a lesser charge.  No attorney would advise him to take this to court.

Yes they will, cause its not going to go anywhere, the PROSECUTOR admitted to the judge she doenst have enough evidence to prove his story false.
They have to be able to prove, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that he committed 2nd degree murder. Which they cant.

[bigkid]

Won't even go that far....he'll plead for a lesser charge.  No attorney would advise him to take this to court.

I think every attorney would advise him to take it to court, unless he's gonna have an all black jury.

[SLYY]

Won't even go that far....he'll plead for a lesser charge.  No attorney would advise him to take this to court.

He will take it all the way.  It's and open and shut self defense case.

[The Ugly]

Imagine the riots.

[Soul Crusher]

Sad that a kid died here.   However, Obama al Jesse and the ghetto race pimps poisoned the well so badly that SIMM is going to walk now since the da overcharged the case.

[Shockwave]

Who followed Trayvon?? - Not a crime
Who chased him on foot?? - Not a crime
Who had a gun??? - Not a crime, dude has a CWP
Who killed Trayvon??? - A crime ONLY if he physically attacked Trayvon, which there is not enough evidence to prove his story wrong. And since in this country youre innocent until proven guilty, and the prosecution has to prove ABSOLUTLEY that he is guilty of WHAT HE IS CHARGED. Which is 2nd degree murder. No way he gets convicted of that. Even in the worst case scenario he could claim some kind of defense.

Hell the prosecutor admitted she cant prove his story wrong, not enough evidence. Guess what, thats your reasonable doubt right there. This isnt going anywhere and Zimmerman would be an idiot to make a plea bargain.

Youre arguing MORALITY, not LAW. Is what youre accusing him of morally right? Maybe, maybe not. Is it illegal? Hell no.

[The Ugly]

Someone please explain "second degree murder"?

I thought that was manslaughter.

[Soul Crusher]

Someone please explain "second degree murder"?

I thought that was manslaughter.

2nd degree requires malice and intent.  The DA screwed the ace with this and I hope zimm walks just to stick it in the face of the traitorous shit like. Thugbama Jesse al 240 option fail, Vince, etc.

[The Ugly]

2nd degree requires malice and intent.  The DA screwed the ace with this and I hope zimm walks just to stick it in the face of the traitorous shit like. Thugbama Jesse al 240 option fail, Vince, etc.

Then what's first degree?