Author Topic: Happy Sunday (Read 58096 times)

BigRo · « **Reply #325 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:14:34 PM »

but God is all pervading even if your rigid belief is not. God is not only accessible to born again Christians. This is such narrow thinking!

Man of Steel · « **Reply #326 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:17:18 PM »

Quote from: BigRo on March 04, 2015, 02:14:34 PM

but God is all pervading even if your rigid belief is not. God is not only accessible to born again Christians. This is such narrow thinking!

Matthew 7:13-14

The Narrow Gate
13 “You can enter God’s Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell[a] is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way. 14 But the gateway to life is very narrow and the road is difficult, and only a few ever find it.

Jesus Christ is the narrow gate.

You asked me if Jesus Christ is all pervading. God expresses himself in three coeternal, coequal persons in father, son and spirit. Each person plays a divine role in the triune nature of God. It's the Holy Spirit who is truly pervading and although all realize God's existence through creation (accomplished through Christ) only those born again recognize the Holy Spirit or are indwelt by the Holy Spirit.

This is not my simply my rigid belief....this is God.

polychronopolous · « **Reply #327 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:20:30 PM »

Quote from: Man of Steel on March 04, 2015, 02:17:18 PM

Matthew 7:13-14

The Narrow Gate
13 “You can enter God’s Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell[a] is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way. 14 But the gateway to life is very narrow and the road is difficult, and only a few ever find it.

Jesus Christ is the narrow gate.

Your thoughts concerning the first reference of Jesus in The Bible?

I've always been a Genesis 3:15 guy... "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."

Some would say Genesis 1:1 and others the beginning of The Book of Matthew.

BigRo · « **Reply #328 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:21:16 PM »

I knew that one was coming lol

To me an accurate translation of narrow here would mean the exclusive mental concentration needed to break through to the kingdom of god not narrowness of belief.

Man of Steel · « **Reply #329 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:24:02 PM »

Quote from: BigRo on March 04, 2015, 02:21:16 PM

I knew that one was coming lol

To me an accurate translation of narrow here would mean the exclusive mental concentration needed to break through to the kingdom of god not narrowness of belief.

Can you point that theology to me in biblical scripture?

King Shizzo · « **Reply #330 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:26:58 PM »

Quote from: Man of Steel on March 04, 2015, 01:09:27 PM

The horror genre I don't watch anymore. Ultra-violent stuff I often avoid too. I just don't give my attention or glorify things that are overtly anti-God. Fictional stuff depicting magical characters and all that I'm fine with, but if it digresses it overt demonic or anti-God stuff I'll probably turn the channel.

The movie Ghost I've seen before, but is it sinful to watch it? I suppose that depends on how you respond to it. There are depictions of heaven and hell in some scences, physic abilities (occultish in nature), etc....do I endorse it for Christians? No. Should they avoid it at all costs? No.

For believers I'd say follow how the Holy Spirit leads you. I've started programs and turned them off within 5 minutes because it was foul or occultish or pornographic. I didn't care to see all that and sometimes felt lead to turn the channel....it's a believer thing.

Funny cause God seemed to be pretty "ultra-violent" when he wanted to be.

Man of Steel · « **Reply #331 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:29:45 PM »

Quote from: Shizzo on March 04, 2015, 02:26:58 PM

Funny cause God seemed to be pretty "ultra-violent" when he wanted to be.

Was he justified?

BigRo · « **Reply #332 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:30:24 PM »

Quote from: Man of Steel on March 04, 2015, 02:24:02 PM

Can you point that theology to me in biblical scripture?

no I cannot, its how yogis and such interpret it.

SF1900 · « **Reply #333 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:31:59 PM »

Quote from: BigRo on March 04, 2015, 02:30:24 PM

no I cannot, its how yogis and such interpret it.

Bigro, do you think the meditative state and enlightenment achieved by Tibetan Monks is similar to the Christian finding/being saved by God?

King Shizzo · « **Reply #334 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:33:13 PM »

Quote from: Man of Steel on March 04, 2015, 02:29:45 PM

Was he justified?

I don't believe in the bible, so you are asking the wrong person

Man of Steel · « **Reply #335 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:34:23 PM »

Quote from: BigRo on March 04, 2015, 02:30:24 PM

no I cannot, its how yogis and such interpret it.

I understand. I don't hate yogis or dislike those that promote a peaceful existence.

My heart breaks for such folks because despite a seemingly peaceful stance they aren't aligned with Jesus Christ.....seem like two peas in a pod!

Certainly some may be, but I won't be arrogant enough to pronounce full judgment upon anyone...not my place.

I still believe God to be an all-righteous, completely just God who will appropriately judge the entire world.

Man of Steel · « **Reply #336 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:35:27 PM »

Quote from: Shizzo on March 04, 2015, 02:33:13 PM

I don't believe in the bible, so you are asking the wrong person

Fair enough, I won't press you any further.

BigRo · « **Reply #337 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:40:54 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on March 04, 2015, 02:31:59 PM

Bigro, do you think the meditative state and enlightenment achieved by Tibetan Monks is similar to the Christian finding/being saved by God?

depends what kind of Christian, the christian monks who meditate and who live very simple lives and have hours of silence in their days yes. Otherwise not really. But to me Jesus is an enlightened yogi and there is no conflict between him and other spiritual paths.

SF1900 · « **Reply #338 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:42:46 PM »

Quote from: BigRo on March 04, 2015, 02:40:54 PM

depends what kind of Christian, the christian monks who meditate and who live very simple lives and have hours of silence in their days yes. Otherwise not really. But to me Jesus is an enlightened yogi and there is no conflict between him and other spiritual paths.

But do you believe the typical tales in the bible of heaven and hell, etc?

Man of Steel · « **Reply #339 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:43:11 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on March 04, 2015, 02:38:13 PM

And that is the main issue with you. The only difference between a yogi and you, if God is real, is that you get to go to heaven and they don't. Other than that, there existence can be exactly like yours, maybe even better. Thus, it seems like the only reason to be aligned with JC is to get your free ticket into heaven, since you and the nonbeliever can both lead similar existences on earth. The only difference MAY be after we die. But I am not going to believe in JC just based on the assumption that I may or may not get into heaven. In my opinion, my heart breaks for people like you. I feel sorry for someone like you, and I am sure you feel sorry for someone like me.

Believers in Christ want to align with Christ and be with Christ because they love him for what he did for them on Calvary's cross.

We desire to know God and be made righteous....no earthly work or attitude can achieve that level of righteousness. It's only through Christ.

SF1900 · « **Reply #340 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:46:08 PM »

Quote from: Man of Steel on March 04, 2015, 02:43:11 PM

Believers in Christ want to align with Christ and be with Christ because they love him for what he did for them on Calvary's cross.

We desire to know God and be made righteous....no earthly work or attitude can achieve that level of righteousness. It's only through Christ.

Wrong. I do not need to believe in a higher power to be that righteous. I can achieve that with or without Christ in my life. In fact, I believe many Tibetan Monks achieve that level of righteousness. Again, there is no evidence to suggest that one must believe in god or JC to achieve that level of righteousness. I believe that level of righteousness can be achieved through right and just action, independent of a God. This is another area we are going to have to agree to disagree on.

FitnessFrenzy · « **Reply #341 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:46:49 PM »

Can we change the thread title to "SF1900 vs. Man of Steel" ?

Archer77 · « **Reply #342 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:48:02 PM »

Quote from: FitnessFrenzy on March 04, 2015, 02:46:49 PM

Can we change the thread title to "SF1900 vs. Man of Steel" ?

SF1900 vs. Jesus

SF1900 · « **Reply #343 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:48:08 PM »

Quote from: FitnessFrenzy on March 04, 2015, 02:46:49 PM

Can we change the thread title to "SF1900 vs. Man of Steel" ?

Well, would you rather listen to me or crazy Uberman?

BigRo · « **Reply #344 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:48:39 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on March 04, 2015, 02:42:46 PM

But do you believe the typical tales in the bible of heaven and hell, etc?

I do not believe in an eternal hell, places of temporary pain and confusion maybe, like bad dreams. I believe in subtler planes of existence some of which could be called heavenly, but not eternal resting places full of good boys.

FitnessFrenzy · « **Reply #345 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:49:02 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on March 04, 2015, 02:48:08 PM

Well, would you rather listen to me or crazy Uberman?

I don't mind your discussion. I just don't understand why you bother.

but you can keep going as much as you desire.

Man of Steel · « **Reply #346 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:49:31 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on March 04, 2015, 02:46:08 PM

Wrong. I do not need to believe in a higher power to be that righteous. I can achieve that with or without Christ in my life. In fact, I believe many Tibetan Monks achieve that level of righteousness. Again, there is no evidence to suggest that one must believe in god or JC to achieve that level of righteousness. This is another area we are going to have to agree to disagree on.

LOL!! "Wrong". Ok, I'm wrong then.....I give.

Have a blessed day!

SF1900 · « **Reply #347 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:51:48 PM »

Quote from: Man of Steel on March 04, 2015, 02:49:31 PM

LOL!! "Wrong". Ok, I'm wrong then.....I give.

Have a blessed day!

Well, let me rephrase. Your "wrong" according to my subjective view based on my life, but you're right according your subjective view point. You think you can only lead a righteous existence via JC and I disagree. So, you're not really "wrong," as I stated. Poor choice of words on my part.

Primemuscle · « **Reply #348 on:** March 04, 2015, 03:09:06 PM »

15 pages! You all have done Tbombz proud.

FitnessFrenzy · « **Reply #349 on:** March 04, 2015, 03:11:25 PM »

Quote from: Primemuscle on March 04, 2015, 03:09:06 PM

15 pages! You all have done Tbombz proud.

it is our humble duty to please the pastor.