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Title: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: UpTheDosage on October 24, 2006, 04:32:58 PM
Saw on Mayhem that Steve signed with Muscletech. I can't wait to see the priceless ads that he's gonna be in. But seriously good for him, I'm happy for Steve, he's a helluva guy. Way to go buddy.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 24, 2006, 04:34:14 PM
Saw on Mayhem that Steve signed with Muscletech. I can't wait to see the priceless ads that he's gonna be in. But seriously good for him, I'm happy for Steve, he's a helluva guy. Way to go buddy.

he'll be earning millions now ::)
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: UpTheDosage on October 24, 2006, 04:36:45 PM
he'll be earning millions now ::)

millions? i was thinking billions plus free anator. he is going to surpass his genetic limitations and be a billionaire. you cant beat that deal.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: knny187 on October 24, 2006, 04:36:56 PM
who?
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Blockhead on October 24, 2006, 04:39:01 PM
 It makes sense.

 Who are SUCKERS that run out and buy Muscletech products???? Newbs ages 15-21 that's who. That's the market Steve will capture and Steve will make MT lots of $$$.

 More than likely he'll be in the basic CellTech/NitroTech ads only and nonsense about his lifts will be because of 'CellTech'.

 We must stand strong and united during these times and step up our efforts to educate the newbs to NOT purchase anything by MuscleTech ever...ever ever ever...PEROID.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: rockyfortune on October 24, 2006, 04:40:18 PM
It makes sense.

 Who are SUCKERS that run out and buy Muscletech products???? Newbs ages 15-21 that's who. That's the market Steve will capture and Steve will make MT lots of $$$.

 More than likely he'll be in the basic CellTech/NitroTech ads only and nonsense about his lifts will be because of 'CellTech'.

 We must stand strong and united during these times and step up our efforts to educate the newbs to NOT purchase anything by MuscleTech ever...ever ever ever...PEROID.




FUCK muscletech and their dog shit supplements!
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Blockhead on October 24, 2006, 04:43:21 PM

 Hahahahahaha! I bet everybody at Mayhem were like..."Good job, Steve, congrats, bro...great news, awesome, steve...good job bro..."

  Right?
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: TheAnimal on October 24, 2006, 04:46:57 PM
WTF THATS AWESOME im majorly jealous n shit wow to be sponsered at his age!
He is on the road to pros if he doesn't get injured or something or get princed from advil
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 24, 2006, 04:50:42 PM
It makes sense.

 Who are SUCKERS that run out and buy Muscletech products???? Newbs ages 15-21 that's who. That's the market Steve will capture and Steve will make MT lots of $$$.

 More than likely he'll be in the basic CellTech/NitroTech ads only and nonsense about his lifts will be because of 'CellTech'.

 We must stand strong and united during these times and step up our efforts to educate the newbs to NOT purchase anything by MuscleTech ever...ever ever ever...PEROID.

You better back the fuck up, fore you get smacked the fuck up
That's how we do it on our side
Any of you ni**az from Muscleteach that wanna bring it bring it
But we ain't singin, we bringin drama
Fuck you and your motherfuckin mama
We gonna kill all you motherfuckers
Now when I came out I told you it was just about MD
Then everybody had to open their mouth with a motherfuckin opinion
Well this how we gonna do this
Fuck Muscletech
Fuck MD
Fuck MD STAFF, as a publication
and as a motherfuckin crew
And if you wanna be down with Animal PACK
Then fuck you too
BSN, fuck you too
All you motherfuckers, fuck you too


Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: troponin on October 24, 2006, 04:51:30 PM
You can have any feelings you want about Muscle Tech, but why is it a knock on Mayhem or any place for congratulating Steve on a contract?  

Good for him.  MT is well known in the industry for treating their athletes (I know....they're not athletes) very well financially.  

So, good for him.  It's a great move for both of them!
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 24, 2006, 04:52:48 PM
You can have any feelings you want about Muscle Tech, but why is it a knock on Mayhem or any place for congratulating Steve on a contract?  

Good for him.  MT is well known in the industry for treating their athletes (I know....they're not athletes) very well financially.  

So, good for him.  It's a great move for both of them!

"well done bro, I love you bro, god loves you bro, im praying for u bro"
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: troponin on October 24, 2006, 04:53:13 PM
"well done bro, I love you bro, god loves you bro, im praying for u bro"

There....doesn't that feel good?
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 24, 2006, 04:54:48 PM
There....doesn't that feel good?

no, because i didnt mean it. ::)

thats the thing with the all ass kissing.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: SteelePegasus on October 24, 2006, 04:55:37 PM
he'll be earning millions now ::)

maybe he has some "business interests in Dubia India"
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Blockhead on October 24, 2006, 05:01:16 PM
You can have any feelings you want about Muscle Tech, but why is it a knock on Mayhem or any place for congratulating Steve on a contract?  

Good for him.  MT is well known in the industry for treating their athletes (I know....they're not athletes) very well financially.  

So, good for him.  It's a great move for both of them!
troponin. I feel ya, brah! I know who you are now and respect your work and knowledge. All that aside...

 You see getbig is as real as it gets as far as a tounge in cheek through the keyhole look into the BB industry...from the kids in the back of the bus. On getbig...we're the kids who pissed and moaned when homework was given out NOT the kid(s) who REMINDED the teacher to give it out.

 Mayhem it's different.

 On getbig...we call it like we see it. Use Steve to trick uninformed and uneducated newbies with false promises and clever ads to rip the money out of their hands by them running to a fkn GNC on 'gold card' day to buy Cell Tech and Nitrotech.

 It isn't a knock on Steve...he is very talented and works very hard. It's MuscleTech and their profit only agenda with their insulting advertorials who we have ill feelings towards.

 We knock Mayhem because it's a territorial thing...they knock us. Either way...Mayhem doesnt call it like it should be seen. MuscleTech should be frowned upon inthis industry...they are insulting and it breaks myheart and makesme angry when I see a 16yr old come in my gym with a $80 jug of Celltech in their gym bag because they think...if they use that they will look like Jay and have some blonde whore hanging on them next summer.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: troponin on October 24, 2006, 05:01:30 PM
no, because i didnt mean it. ::)

thats the thing with the all ass kissing.

So, you don't like Steve?  Or congratulating anyone is ass kissing?  

And I know you felt a little better inside after that post.  Don't run away from your feelings.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 24, 2006, 05:06:43 PM
So, you don't like Steve?  Or congratulating anyone is ass kissing?  

And I know you felt a little better inside after that post.  Don't run away from your feelings.

I don't hate the kid, but I find it difficult telling someone I love them :-\, or how I think god loves them :-\, or better still im "prayin" for them... :-\

WHEN I DON'T KNOW THEM.  ::)
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: troponin on October 24, 2006, 05:07:09 PM
troponin. I feel ya, brah! I know who you are now and respect your work and knowledge. All that aside...

 You see getbig is as real as it gets as far as a tounge in cheek through the keyhole look into the BB industry...from the kids in the back of the bus. On getbig...we're the kids who pissed and moaned when homework was given out NOT the kid(s) who REMINDED the teacher to give it out.

 Mayhem it's different.

 On getbig...we call it like we see it. Use Steve to trick uninformed and uneducated newbies with false promises and clever ads to rip the money out of their hands by them running to a fkn GNC on 'gold card' day to buy Cell Tech and Nitrotech.

 It isn't a knock on Steve...he is very talented and works very hard. It's MuscleTech and their profit only agenda with their insulting advertorials who we have ill feelings towards.

 We knock Mayhem because it's a territorial thing...they knock us. Either way...Mayhem doesnt call it like it should be seen. MuscleTech should be frowned upon inthis industry...they are insulting and it breaks myheart and makesme angry when I see a 16yr old come in my gym with a $80 jug of Celltech in their gym bag because they think...if they use that they will look like Jay and have some blonde whore hanging on them next summer.

Blockhead,  
   You compete right?  You'd be happy to get a contract, right?  I'm happy for Steve.  He's young, and already making money from bodybuilding.  Can't fault him.  

Like I said, feel how you wish about MT, but you can't be mad at Steve for MT wanting to sign him.  


Sadly, or smartly, MT is doing what all companies do.  

For example, Lipitor is coming out with a new duel cholesterol fighting product.  It has an ingredient that raises HDL.  
The kick is....Lipitor is losing it's patent, and generics will soon be on the market for Lipitor.

What does Lipitor do?  They market the new HDL product as a combo with Lipitor.  So.....you can't get the new product, without also getting Lipitor....at the non-generic price for both!  Smart move for them.  Shaddy move for all us poor schmucks paying for health insurance.  
Just how things go.  


But.....Like I said, no one has to agree with it.  Just don't hate Steve for getting a nice contract doing what he loves.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: troponin on October 24, 2006, 05:08:00 PM
I don't hate the kid, but I find it difficult telling someone I love them :-\, or how I think god loves them :-\, or better still im "prayin" for them... :-\

WHEN I DON'T KNOW THEM.  ::)

Ahh...I see. 

But, mocking them is fine, right? 

Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: The True Adonis on October 24, 2006, 05:09:54 PM
Rest assured that I will do my best to educate everyone I can that Steve uses steroids and that Muscletech products will not work as well as the claims say it will.

The consumer must know how the person representing the product attained his physique.

Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Blockhead on October 24, 2006, 05:10:13 PM
 Forget it troponin...davidpaul is a STRAIGHT UP KILLA! Look at his avatar...don't you kno where he's from and who he rolls with???? Are you crazy??????

 davidpaul be CRIPPIN, PIMPIN, SLINGIN', ROBBIN and KILLIN up in the Watts section of Compton.

 Don't make him post a picture of his boys...awww fawk it you asked for it...

 hey davidpaul...DO IT! Show troponin a picture of your boyz...show em!!!
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 24, 2006, 05:12:05 PM
Ahh...I see. 

But, mocking them is fine, right? 



using sarcasm and irony isnt mocking, how have i mocked him?

have i called him a juiced to the gills teenager? NO

i said "he'll be eanring millionS soon", how is that mocking?

You see what many mayhemers, will never get is, that here we keep it real, thats all you can do...................
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 24, 2006, 05:18:31 PM
Forget it troponin...davidpaul is a STRAIGHT UP KILLA! Look at his avatar...don't you kno where he's from and who he rolls with???? Are you crazy??????

 davidpaul be CRIPPIN, PIMPIN, SLINGIN', ROBBIN and KILLIN up in the Watts section of Compton.

 Don't make him post a picture of his boys...awww fawk it you asked for it...

 hey davidpaul...DO IT! Show troponin a picture of your boyz...show em!!!

n**az dont realize that I was having sitdowns with tookie when they sucking mommys titties.
 
RIP BRO - WE WILL MEET AGAIN.........and you lil' jonesy.
When I roll I roll dawg, you know the score, I got Crazyals money btw, ni**a paid up.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Blockhead on October 24, 2006, 05:20:50 PM
Blockhead,  
   You compete right?  You'd be happy to get a contract, right?  I'm happy for Steve.  He's young, and already making money from bodybuilding.  Can't fault him.  

Like I said, feel how you wish about MT, but you can't be mad at Steve for MT wanting to sign him.  


Sadly, or smartly, MT is doing what all companies do.  

For example, Lipitor is coming out with a new duel cholesterol fighting product.  It has an ingredient that raises HDL.  
The kick is....Lipitor is losing it's patent, and generics will soon be on the market for Lipitor.

What does Lipitor do?  They market the new HDL product as a combo with Lipitor.  So.....you can't get the new product, without also getting Lipitor....at the non-generic price for both!  Smart move for them.  Shaddy move for all us poor schmucks paying for health insurance.  
Just how things go.  


But.....Like I said, no one has to agree with it.  Just don't hate Steve for getting a nice contract doing what he loves.
It's a law to never celebrate a mans misfortune and TO celebrate a mans fortune. Steve works hard has a great physique and excellent genetics to go far in this game. I salute him. I dont hate the PLAYER...just the game..or I mean, Muscletech for their neverending campaign of insults and mockery and raping of the newbs and their money.

 Actually troponin...I read about your stuff. I want to win my weightclass(heavy) at the Illinois State show in May of 07. Or place in top 2 to qualify. I might contact you before you get so in demand and/or so busy that I'll need an agent to pick your brain. I know how to get ahold of you if I decide to....I'll be around.  
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on October 24, 2006, 05:21:05 PM
troponin. I feel ya, brah! I know who you are now and respect your work and knowledge. All that aside...

 You see getbig is as real as it gets as far as a tounge in cheek through the keyhole look into the BB industry...from the kids in the back of the bus. On getbig...we're the kids who pissed and moaned when homework was given out NOT the kid(s) who REMINDED the teacher to give it out.

 Mayhem it's different.

 On getbig...we call it like we see it. Use Steve to trick uninformed and uneducated newbies with false promises and clever ads to rip the money out of their hands by them running to a fkn GNC on 'gold card' day to buy Cell Tech and Nitrotech.

 It isn't a knock on Steve...he is very talented and works very hard. It's MuscleTech and their profit only agenda with their insulting advertorials who we have ill feelings towards.

 We knock Mayhem because it's a territorial thing...they knock us. Either way...Mayhem doesnt call it like it should be seen. MuscleTech should be frowned upon inthis industry...they are insulting and it breaks myheart and makesme angry when I see a 16yr old come in my gym with a $80 jug of Celltech in their gym bag because they think...if they use that they will look like Jay and have some blonde whore hanging on them next summer.

So with all honesty, in front of this whole forum, you would turn down 50k a year from Muscletech yourself Blockhead with your obligations being only 3 photo shoots, and 5-6 weekends at big bodybuilding shows? (paid plane trips and expenses) and thats it for your obligations.  (im not saying thats the stipulations of Steves contract, I just think its sad how comraderie in this sport sucks bigtime and people are pissed off and labeling others as asskissers when congratulating people who do well for themselves)

Do you know what this means to me? It means I lose Steve Kuclo off the Trueprotein team. That sucks but I couldnt be happier for the guy because he is a great kid and deserves the best.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 24, 2006, 05:28:09 PM
So with all honesty, in front of this whole forum, you would turn down 50k a year from Muscletech yourself Blockhead with your obligations being only 3 photo shoots, and 5-6 weekends at big bodybuilding shows? (paid plane trips and expenses) and thats it for your obligations.  (im not saying thats the stipulations of Steves contract, I just think its sad how comraderie in this sport sucks bigtime and people are pissed off and labeling others as asskissers when congratulating people who do well for themselves)

Do you know what this means to me? It means I lose Steve Kuclo off the Trueprotein team. That sucks but I couldnt be happier for the guy because he is a great kid and deserves the best.

It would help if you grew a set of balls, and stopped being so insecure. You get called fat by a 140 pounder internet warrior, and you moan, your training system gets called out, and you meltdown.

This is real life, people will shotgun you for just looking at them, to get nuthin' but a reputation, this is the real shit.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Blockhead on October 24, 2006, 05:32:18 PM
 Oh I knew it was a matter of time before DANTE chimes in...I have to be careful what I say back...I don't want a PM from Ron Himself telling me to leave you alone because your feelings got hurt so I'll be gentle...

 If MT came up to me, TheBlockHead and offered me that to look like an asshole in their ads with all the perks that come along with it to suck up my pride and my ill feelings towards that blood sucking company...would I??? Shit...where the fk do I SIGN????? Of course I would. I'm not stupid. Neither is Steve and for the last time...I never knocked Steve.

 One thing about the good ol' trusty ol' BlockHead is that he's honest and straight up.

 Now scurry off to MAYHEM and go get your ego and prostate stroked some more. You're an innovator and have some cool ideas...but you aint that special, player. You just aint. On MAYHEM you are...on here you're just this clown named 'Dante' with a big ego and god-complex.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 24, 2006, 05:33:58 PM
So with all honesty, in front of this whole forum, you would turn down 50k a year from Muscletech yourself Blockhead with your obligations being only 3 photo shoots, and 5-6 weekends at big bodybuilding shows? (paid plane trips and expenses) and thats it for your obligations.  (im not saying thats the stipulations of Steves contract, I just think its sad how comraderie in this sport sucks bigtime and people are pissed off and labeling others as asskissers when congratulating people who do well for themselves)

Do you know what this means to me? It means I lose Steve Kuclo off the Trueprotein team. That sucks but I couldnt be happier for the guy because he is a great kid and deserves the best.

50 grand to be a slave, a bitch to speak.

haha cashcash money.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on October 24, 2006, 05:38:43 PM
You know how in real life when some "Snoop Trevor Trev" white guy tries to talk "black".....and everyone looks around at everyone else and thinks "does this guy know how idiotic he looks and sounds right now?"

Thats kind of how it plays out on the net too.

Carryon "50 cent Stanley and Wutang Sethe"
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 24, 2006, 05:44:43 PM
You know how in real life when some "Snoop Trevor Trev" white guy tries to talk "black".....and everyone looks around at everyone else and thinks "does this guy know how idiotic he looks and sounds right now?"

Thats kind of how it plays out on the net too.

Carryon "50 cent Stanley and Wutang Sethe"

did someone's feeling just get hurt ::),

stop being a pussy, grow a set.

Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Blockhead on October 24, 2006, 05:45:07 PM
You know how in real life when some "Snoop Trevor Trev" white guy tries to talk "black".....and everyone looks around at everyone else and thinks "does this guy know how idiotic he looks and sounds right now?"

Thats kind of how it plays out on the net too.

Carryon "50 cent Stanley and Wutang Sethe"
You're trying WAAAAY to hard, Dante. Now...TheBlockHead is known to speak "street" or "ebonics" on here as you say...'talking black'. I do that when I make FUN OF not because I think I am. You're country suburban ass obviously doesn't get it.

 Just quit while you're ahead...call Ron or PM him and tell him that I and davidpaul hurt your feelings and Ron Himself will PM me and place a warning on me and I will continue to laugh at you as you feel all warm and secure over on Mayhem as the nutswingers fondle your balls for you. You must get thrown off that on here...you're just this middle aged clown with the name of a convienence store clerk in a cult-film they just recently made a sequel to who is a big believer in rest-pause training.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: alexxx on October 24, 2006, 05:45:51 PM
So with all honesty, in front of this whole forum, you would turn down 50k a year from Muscletech yourself Blockhead with your obligations being only 3 photo shoots, and 5-6 weekends at big bodybuilding shows? (paid plane trips and expenses) and thats it for your obligations.  (im not saying thats the stipulations of Steves contract, I just think its sad how comraderie in this sport sucks bigtime and people are pissed off and labeling others as asskissers when congratulating people who do well for themselves)

Do you know what this means to me? It means I lose Steve Kuclo off the Trueprotein team. That sucks but I couldnt be happier for the guy because he is a great kid and deserves the best.

You need a replacement for him.. cause I know just the guy... ;D
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 24, 2006, 05:46:17 PM
Oh I knew it was a matter of time before DANTE chimes in...I have to be careful what I say back...I don't want a PM from Ron Himself telling me to leave you alone because your feelings got hurt so I'll be gentle...

 If MT came up to me, TheBlockHead and offered me that to look like an asshole in their ads with all the perks that come along with it to suck up my pride and my ill feelings towards that blood sucking company...would I??? Shit...where the fk do I SIGN????? Of course I would. I'm not stupid. Neither is Steve and for the last time...I never knocked Steve.

 One thing about the good ol' trusty ol' BlockHead is that he's honest and straight up.

 Now scurry off to MAYHEM and go get your ego and prostate stroked some more. You're an innovator and have some cool ideas...but you aint that special, player. You just aint. On MAYHEM you are...on here you're just this clown named 'Dante' with a big ego and god-complex.

he comes here, and is shocked to find no one wants to suck his dick. ::)
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Blockhead on October 24, 2006, 05:50:40 PM

 I know, right? that's what I just said...it throws his day off course and shatters his whole workweek when he comes on here and we cause him to meltdown and cry to Ron.

 That's why he's at Mayhem making fun of us...because he can't get to us. he can't touch us...he'd be able to touch 'Hammer' before he can touch us.

 He can't fathom we think NOTHING of him and he takes comfort in thinking we are all skinny or fat zit faced wannabees in mommys basement anyway so who cares what we think but it's funny how 140lb wannabees who's been training for so many years our own mothers can't recognize any results make him buckle like a belt and melt like a candle.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: troponin on October 24, 2006, 05:51:07 PM

i said "he'll be eanring millionS soon", how is that mocking?

You see what many mayhemers, will never get is, that here we keep it real, thats all you can do...................

So, you really believe he'll be making millions soon?  
Because if you don't believe that, then it most certainly is mocking.  

Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 24, 2006, 05:56:30 PM
I know, right? that's what I just said...it throws his day off course and shatters his whole workweek when he comes on here and we cause him to meltdown and cry to Ron.

 That's why he's at Mayhem making fun of us...because he can't get to us. he can't touch us...he'd be able to touch 'Hammer' before he can touch us.

 He can't fathom we think NOTHING of him and he takes comfort in thinking we are all skinny or fat zit faced wannabees in mommys basement anyway so who cares what we think but it's funny how 140lb wannabees who's been training for so many years our own mothers can't recognize any results make him buckle like a belt and melt like a candle.

The only 140 pounder i can think on a bodybduilding board, was chadmower, and to think, he was a platinum on gay.hem ::)

We keep it real G, that all you can do, you give respect when its, but if theres someone who thinks there shit don't smell, you bring them back down to reality.

remember when liljonesy popped that big ni**a abdul, cause he was all up his face fo' no reason? Ni**a kept it tight G.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: El_Spiko on October 24, 2006, 05:59:24 PM
Rest assured that I will do my best to educate everyone I can that Steve uses steroids and that Muscletech products will not work as well as the claims say it will.

The consumer must know how the person representing the product attained his physique.


LMFAO TA you've cited Muscletech research before to support your 'principles' ;D
Blockhead, are you saying that the MT ads are lies and that girls aren't more attracted to guys who are anabolic thanks to Leukic, the only truely anabolic supplement? ???


 ;D
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 24, 2006, 05:59:32 PM
So, you really believe he'll be making millions soon?  
Because if you don't believe that, then it most certainly is mocking.  



and so fucking what, big fucking deal.

id love to see how u handle real life.

Heres a clue, everyone is out to f**k you over, get with the program,

I respect someone more for cussing me down, and calling me mutherfucker, than somone who is all over my ass.

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: KTMckay on October 24, 2006, 06:11:39 PM
and so fucking what, big fucking deal.

id love to see how u handle real life.

Heres a clue, everyone is out to f**k you over, get with the program,

I respect someone more for cussing me down, and calling me mutherfucker, than somone who is all over my ass.

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.

your a liar and a homo.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 24, 2006, 06:15:05 PM
your a liar and a homo.

keep riding my dick.

do you scour the internet message boards looking for homsexuals?

whos the bitch now.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Stavios on October 24, 2006, 06:17:40 PM
Steve piss me off cause he looks so great and he is only 2 years older than me
he makes me train harder

cool for him that he got a contract with muscletech !
especially if it is for 50k like Dante said  :o
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: The True Adonis on October 24, 2006, 06:23:45 PM
Oh I knew it was a matter of time before DANTE chimes in...I have to be careful what I say back...I don't want a PM from Ron Himself telling me to leave you alone because your feelings got hurt so I'll be gentle...

 If MT came up to me, TheBlockHead and offered me that to look like an asshole in their ads with all the perks that come along with it to suck up my pride and my ill feelings towards that blood sucking company...would I??? Shit...where the fk do I SIGN????? Of course I would. I'm not stupid. Neither is Steve and for the last time...I never knocked Steve.

 One thing about the good ol' trusty ol' BlockHead is that he's honest and straight up.

 Now scurry off to MAYHEM and go get your ego and prostate stroked some more. You're an innovator and have some cool ideas...but you aint that special, player. You just aint. On MAYHEM you are...on here you're just this clown named 'Dante' with a big ego and god-complex.

Interesting.  A man who speaks of principle,but yet,really  a coward who runs from it. 
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: alexxx on October 24, 2006, 06:27:56 PM
Interesting.  A man who speaks of principle,but yet,really  a coward who runs from it. 

Interesting how it applies to you too.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: The True Adonis on October 24, 2006, 06:30:14 PM
Interesting how it applies to you too.

Highly Doubtful.

I would die for what I champion.  Would you?
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Mr.Hutch on October 24, 2006, 06:31:58 PM
All of you would be on your phuckin knees to get a contract with ANYONE...
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 24, 2006, 06:34:59 PM
Regarding getbig and mayhem, both boards can be examined psychologically and that would in fact make two very interesting and contrasting studies.  My question about getbig is: why do some people who seemingly hate bodybuilding and bodybuilders spend so much time on here?

your talking about yourself here.

tom prince hater. ;D

are you banned on mayhem yet?

Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Stavios on October 24, 2006, 06:35:55 PM
My question about getbig is: why do some people who seemingly hate bodybuilding and bodybuilders spend so much time on here?

yes !

as the leader of "the muscle worshipers", I was asking myself the same thing !
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: El_Spiko on October 24, 2006, 06:36:15 PM
Highly Doubtful.

I would die for what I champion.  Would you?
What, lying? Or are we talking about the code duello circa 1777?
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Alex23 on October 24, 2006, 06:51:34 PM
Hahahahahaha! I bet everybody at Mayhem were like..."Good job, Steve, congrats, bro...great news, awesome, steve...good job bro..."

  Right?

Right... and what's wrong with that?
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: alexxx on October 24, 2006, 07:02:17 PM
Highly Doubtful.

I would die for what I champion.  Would you?

You would die for a blow up doll?
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Stavios on October 24, 2006, 07:03:44 PM
Probably.  ;D

There are actually a lot of good dudes over there.  Both boards have their fair share of good posters as well as some dummies.

most guys fronm Getbig read mayhem but they act like they don't

most guys from mayhem read Getbig but they act like they don't

that's the truth !
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: michael arvilla on October 24, 2006, 07:32:05 PM
The kid is doing good for himself


Congrats!
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: troponin on October 24, 2006, 07:34:40 PM
and so fucking what, big fucking deal.

id love to see how u handle real life.

Heres a clue, everyone is out to f**k you over, get with the program,

I respect someone more for cussing me down, and calling me mutherfucker, than somone who is all over my ass.

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.

Keeping your friends close, and your enemies closer isn't real life.  That's the movies.  

Real life is staying at work until 9pm, even though you could live without the money, but you can't live without the insurance with a newborn, and 18 month old at home.  The elder of which was up from 1:30am to 2:30am, and back up for good at 6am.  

Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Alex23 on October 24, 2006, 07:50:54 PM
and so fucking what, big fucking deal.

id love to see how u handle real life.

HAhahahahahahahah priceless... and that coming from a guy who spends half his day posing as a gangbanger to reclaim the good old "glory days" .... 
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Luv2Hurt on October 24, 2006, 08:02:33 PM
Keeping your friends close, and your enemies closer isn't real life.  That's the movies.  

Real life is staying at work until 9pm, even though you could live without the money, but you can't live without the insurance with a newborn, and 18 month old at home.  The elder of which was up from 1:30am to 2:30am, and back up for good at 6am.  



Yeah david and Blockhead think there is glory in banging  ::)  Those guys need to grow up, cause thats kid sh*t.  Nothing cool about it.  They are so far from reality its sad and guess what nobody is impressed.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on October 24, 2006, 10:18:15 PM
Steve piss me off cause he looks so great and he is only 2 years older than me
he makes me train harder

cool for him that he got a contract with muscletech !
especially if it is for 50k like Dante said  :o
i couldn't agree more. That lil bastard makes me more hungry to be the best. damn!
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Adam Empire on October 24, 2006, 10:21:06 PM

Anybody ever tasted "liquid tin" - here's your chance.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on October 24, 2006, 10:23:04 PM
But i am glad he will get owned by Evan and Flex lewis!
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: The True Adonis on October 24, 2006, 10:50:45 PM
Keeping your friends close, and your enemies closer isn't real life.  That's the movies.  

Real life is staying at work until 9pm, even though you could live without the money, but you can't live without the insurance with a newborn, and 18 month old at home.  The elder of which was up from 1:30am to 2:30am, and back up for good at 6am.  



In my book, that is called unhappines and poor planning which could also be construed as misery.

Its all relative. Isn`t it?   :)
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: columbusdude82 on October 25, 2006, 12:53:47 AM
So Steve will simply go from saying True Protein is the best product there is to praising Muscletech? I wonder, will there be Muscletech ads in the mags saying he got huge on celltech, same as cutler?

Having tried both, I can honestly say that True Protein is better by far, imo. They aren't out to rip anyone off, and present a quality product without the BS. I can't remember how many times I have a seen a stupid fratboy at my gym actually believe the Muscletech hype and buy into it...
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: KTMckay on October 25, 2006, 01:21:26 AM
keep riding my dick.

do you scour the internet message boards looking for homsexuals?

whos the bitch now.

monster flaming homo.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on October 25, 2006, 02:24:43 AM
I know, right? that's what I just said...it throws his day off course and shatters his whole workweek when he comes on here and we cause him to meltdown and cry to Ron.

 That's why he's at Mayhem making fun of us...because he can't get to us. he can't touch us...he'd be able to touch 'Hammer' before he can touch us.

 He can't fathom we think NOTHING of him and he takes comfort in thinking we are all skinny or fat zit faced wannabees in mommys basement anyway so who cares what we think but it's funny how 140lb wannabees who's been training for so many years our own mothers can't recognize any results make him buckle like a belt and melt like a candle.

And your entitled to your opinion and Im entitled to mine. Its a small world, one of my trainees sent me the an email today explaining who you are and what your about. For all the smacktalk you throw out there Shane, I guess I was expecting more respectability from a person who represents a supplement company. You go on and on about principles yet conduct yourself like this online as a rep for said supplement company?
Trop heres advanced notice of who you would be working with as far as theblockhead is concerned (who asked about you prepping him), he works for a supp company so I guess theres no hypocrisy in all this in his views toward Steve (sarcasm). Yea Shane, no problem, Im not that impressed with you either....
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 25, 2006, 02:28:52 AM
And your entitled to your opinion and Im entitled to mine. Its a small world, one of my trainees sent me the an email today explaining who you are and what your about. For all the smacktalk you throw out there Shane, I guess I was expecting more respectability from a person who represents a supplement company. You go on and on about principles yet conduct yourself like this online as a rep for said supplement company?
Trop heres advanced notice of who you would be working with as far as theblockhead is concerned (who asked about you prepping him), he works for a supp company so I guess theres no hypocrisy in all this in his views toward Steve (sarcasm). Yea Shane, no problem, Im not that impressed with you either....
Which company? Are you positive this is him?
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 25, 2006, 02:31:43 AM
And your entitled to your opinion and Im entitled to mine. Its a small world, one of my trainees sent me the an email today explaining who you are and what your about. For all the smacktalk you throw out there Shane, I guess I was expecting more respectability from a person who represents a supplement company. You go on and on about principles yet conduct yourself like this online as a rep for said supplement company?
Trop heres advanced notice of who you would be working with as far as theblockhead is concerned (who asked about you prepping him), he works for a supp company so I guess theres no hypocrisy in all this in his views toward Steve (sarcasm). Yea Shane, no problem, Im not that impressed with you either....

oh my god the fuckin' drama.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 25, 2006, 02:32:21 AM
In my book, that is called unhappines and poor planning which could also be construed as misery.

Its all relative. Isn`t it?   :)

exactly.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on October 25, 2006, 02:34:11 AM
Yes thats him (sent email from someone who knows him)

Im not going to name the company, because in my opinion its a good supplement company...and I try to get along with everyone in the industry (to the best of my ability). I just find it dissapointing on a personal level. To each his own.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: jaejonna on October 25, 2006, 06:18:11 AM
Steve kulco may be the next jeremy freeman, greg kovacs, aaron madron...ect 
They have to brands of athletes...and this is going to hurt cause its the truth !!


A.) The Protege'- This person has yet to do shows and actually place in competetion. Seen as promising, they are best used in before and after pics that make the after look as TA would say...25%bf. Too Easy

B.) The Pro- A person who is already a pro and a champion as well. Ussually picked up after a big win or a good placing. Gustavo,Cutler,Cormier,Jackson (Dex and Johnnie), David "Four Foot Nine" Henry.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 25, 2006, 07:39:32 AM
Steve kulco may be the next jeremy freeman, greg kovacs, aaron madron...ect 
They have to brands of athletes...and this is going to hurt cause its the truth !!


A.) The Protege'- This person has yet to do shows and actually place in competetion. Seen as promising, they are best used in before and after pics that make the after look as TA would say...25%bf. Too Easy

B.) The Pro- A person who is already a pro and a champion as well. Ussually picked up after a big win or a good placing. Gustavo,Cutler,Cormier,Jackson (Dex and Johnnie), David "Four Foot Nine" Henry.

bro, he has a "supplement contract", hes living it large now like a NBA star.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: sgt. d on October 25, 2006, 07:45:35 AM
Its pretty clear davidpaul and jaejonna are the same person ::)
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 25, 2006, 07:49:05 AM
Its pretty clear davidpaul and jaejonna are the same person ::)

I am blockhead, jaejonna, sometimes bluto, one the 14 sarcarms (im the one who works out), and when im feeling a bit old skool i post as DIVISION.

have you got a problem with this?
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: jaejonna on October 25, 2006, 08:07:05 AM
Its pretty clear davidpaul and jaejonna are the same person ::)
hahah me and Davidpaul have put our diffrences aside srg. deez nuts ...goddamn , your like the dumbest person alive hahahahah
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: troponin on October 25, 2006, 09:21:38 AM
In my book, that is called unhappines and poor planning which could also be construed as misery.

Its all relative. Isn`t it?   :)

Yes, one person's nirvana is another person's misery.  Very profound. 
Not exactly a new statement though. 

I'm just following the American dream.  Meet girl, get married, pump out some kids, and watch them grow up.  Our versions of happiness are different.  No big deal.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: natural al on October 25, 2006, 09:28:26 AM
Yes, one person's nirvana is another person's misery.  Very profound. 
Not exactly a new statement though. 

I'm just following the American dream.  Meet girl, get married, pump out some kids, and watch them grow up.  Our versions of happiness are different.  No big deal.

one of these days I'm gonna come and train with you guys......it'll have to wait until you guys have a "light" day.  I'm man enough to admit that I can't handle the wieght you guys do...not even close.   Maybe on the shoulder press but that'd be it and I don't know how much you guys throw around so you probably bury me in those too.  One of these days I'm gonna get up the balls to show up over on 16 and gratiot..it's just a matter of time. 
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: troponin on October 25, 2006, 09:35:44 AM
one of these days I'm gonna come and train with you guys......it'll have to wait until you guys have a "light" day.  I'm man enough to admit that I can't handle the wieght you guys do...not even close.   Maybe on the shoulder press but that'd be it and I don't know how much you guys throw around so you probably bury me in those too.  One of these days I'm gonna get up the balls to show up over on 16 and gratiot..it's just a matter of time. 

Come on over anytime.  There's more than just Steve and I there.  There is a good dozen or more national level guys, and a few national level women competitors.  There's always a big group of serious lifters around.  Great atmosphere.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: nycbull on October 25, 2006, 09:39:09 AM
Yes thats him (sent email from someone who knows him)

Im not going to name the company, because in my opinion its a good supplement company...and I try to get along with everyone in the industry (to the best of my ability). I just find it dissapointing on a personal level. To each his own.

monster running out to find a pic of Blockhead. He must have really gotten under your skin.

I have seen you two exchange in other posts and it seems you get special privileges from RON and or Hedgehog. Blockhead is either not allowed to access the thread or the thread gets deleted. There was a thread called "theGetbig's BB IMMATURE kids!" or something to that effect, The Blockhead was winning a debate with you and after several pages in, suddenly the thread disappeared. What gives? why run to Ron when Blockhead gets under your skin?

Getbig is a democratic board, no one gets special privileges or treatment here and there is no censorship of speech (most of the time). Unlike Mayhem, members here are sick of the lies and bullsh*t coming out of the crooked bodybuilding industry. When nutritional companies, magazines and the athletes tell boldface lies to the public they need to be called on it. And getbig is the place where it happens. Real change only comes when the public is allowed to engage in an open uncensored discourse about tough issues and where all views are heard. Without that you have bullshit that just keeps growing and thats what Mayhem has become. Anyone with a dissenting view is deleted. What good for the industry can come of that? Not much I imagine. Perhaps Steve Kuclo will read the dissenting points of view here at getbig and maybe just maybe he will take more responsibility in what he does and says while promoting CellTech products.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: alexxx on October 25, 2006, 09:42:06 AM
And your entitled to your opinion and Im entitled to mine. Its a small world, one of my trainees sent me the an email today explaining who you are and what your about. For all the smacktalk you throw out there Shane, I guess I was expecting more respectability from a person who represents a supplement company. You go on and on about principles yet conduct yourself like this online as a rep for said supplement company?
Trop heres advanced notice of who you would be working with as far as theblockhead is concerned (who asked about you prepping him), he works for a supp company so I guess theres no hypocrisy in all this in his views toward Steve (sarcasm). Yea Shane, no problem, Im not that impressed with you either....

Dante go easy on blockhead he gets regularly beat by women in his leg workouts.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 25, 2006, 09:45:19 AM
monster running out to find a pic of Blockhead. He must have really gotten under your skin.

I have seen you two exchange in other posts and it seems you get special privileges from RON and or Hedgehog. Blockhead is either not allowed to access the thread or the thread gets deleted. There was a thread called "theGetbig's BB IMMATURE kids!" or something to that effect, The Blockhead was winning a debate with you and after several pages in, suddenly the thread disappeared. What gives? why run to Ron when Blockhead gets under your skin?

Getbig is a democratic board, no one gets special privileges or treatment here and there is no censorship of speech (most of the time). Unlike Mayhem members here are sick of the lies and bullsh*t coming out of the crooked bodybuilding industry. When nutritional companies, magazines and the athletes tell boldface lies to the public they need to be called on it. And getbig is the place where it happens. Real change only comes when the public is allowed to engage in an open uncensored discourse about tough issues and where all views are heard. Without that you have bullshit that just keeps growing and thats what Mayhem has become. Anyone with a dissenting view is deleted. What good for the industry can come of that? Not much I imagine. Perhaps Steve Kuclo will read the dissenting points of view here at getbig and maybe just maybe he will take more responsibility in what he does and says while promoting CellTech products.

word.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: natural al on October 25, 2006, 09:48:55 AM
Come on over anytime.  There's more than just Steve and I there.  There is a good dozen or more national level guys, and a few national level women competitors.  There's always a big group of serious lifters around.  Great atmosphere.

I've got to get things going again, I just started a new blast and I re-evaluated the way I was doing some things so I changed things up a little and am using a little different rep range.  I'd like to see how things work out.  Last time I went as heavy as I could and kept the reps at around 12RP for most bodyparts this time I'm starting off a little lighter and going for the 15-18RP range.  My body was taking a beating and I wasn't really going the way I'd like form-wise.  I think this is gonna work out better for me in the long run but it's gonna be awhile before I start handling any crazy poundages.  
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: TorontoRaptorsFan on October 25, 2006, 10:43:24 AM
That's true!  I pop in every now and then, but not every day and sometimes not even every week.  I'll probably go read over there now and see what's new.  If things have changed a little I might stick around.

Do you attend Lakehead U?
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: TorontoRaptorsFan on October 25, 2006, 10:45:10 AM
In my book, that is called unhappines and poor planning which could also be construed as misery.

Its all relative. Isn`t it?   :)

Hey Adonis when are you going to get a job?
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: natural al on October 25, 2006, 10:47:45 AM
Hey Adonis when are you going to get a job?


he works for nasa already. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: TorontoRaptorsFan on October 25, 2006, 10:50:15 AM
he works for nasa already. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Someone told me it was for NAMBLA!
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: legbreaker on October 25, 2006, 10:56:31 AM
Good for him, to be recognized at this young age (relative to todays older age of bb's) is a great thing.  I hope he doesn't feel the need to try and fast forward his progress because he is now in the for front of the bodybuilding world.  Building legit quality muscles takes lots of time.  If he takes it slow I think he can have great success.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on October 25, 2006, 10:59:31 AM
monster running out to find a pic of Blockhead. He must have really gotten under your skin.

I have seen you two exchange in other posts and it seems you get special privileges from RON and or Hedgehog. Blockhead is either not allowed to access the thread or the thread gets deleted. There was a thread called "theGetbig's BB IMMATURE kids!" or something to that effect, The Blockhead was winning a debate with you and after several pages in, suddenly the thread disappeared. What gives? why run to Ron when Blockhead gets under your skin?

Getbig is a democratic board, no one gets special privileges or treatment here and there is no censorship of speech (most of the time). Unlike Mayhem, members here are sick of the lies and bullsh*t coming out of the crooked bodybuilding industry. When nutritional companies, magazines and the athletes tell boldface lies to the public they need to be called on it. And getbig is the place where it happens. Real change only comes when the public is allowed to engage in an open uncensored discourse about tough issues and where all views are heard. Without that you have bullshit that just keeps growing and thats what Mayhem has become. Anyone with a dissenting view is deleted. What good for the industry can come of that? Not much I imagine. Perhaps Steve Kuclo will read the dissenting points of view here at getbig and maybe just maybe he will take more responsibility in what he does and says while promoting CellTech products.

Winning the debate? I must of missed that one. If you haven't noticed I have less than 150 posts on this board in over 2 years. I just checked my stats and Im at a whopping .182 posts a day. I post and then dont read for days/sometimes weeks at a time. I kind of lose the flow of the daily back and forth grind of things here like you guys. I like your intricate psychoanalysis of everything though....you might just be thinking a little too hard about something (this board) and what it means to you vs what it means to me.  Ive contacted Ron to "Please take down a post" about a figure girl people were ranking on over here about 6 months back, which he did. My problem in this situation is a guy who is saying Steve Kuclo is a sellout, yet he himself works for a supplement company...I think thats pretty lame if you ask me.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: natural al on October 25, 2006, 11:10:58 AM
Winning the debate? I must of missed that one. If you haven't noticed I have less than 150 posts on this board in over 2 years. I just checked my stats and Im at a whopping .182 posts a day. I post and then dont read for days/sometimes weeks at a time. I kind of lose the flow of the daily back and forth grind of things here like you guys. I like your intricate psychoanalysis of everything though....you might just be thinking a little too hard about something (this board) and what it means to you vs what it means to me.  Ive contacted Ron to "Please take down a post" about a figure girl people were ranking on over here about 6 months back, which he did. My problem in this situation is a guy who is saying Steve Kuclo is a sellout, yet he himself works for a supplement company...I think thats pretty lame if you ask me.

I don't understand how anybody can say he's a sellout.  If somebody came to me and said we want you to represent us and we'll pay you for it.  I'd do it in a minute.  You'd be a fool not to.  How's he selling out?  As far as I know TP doesn't really run any advertisements so it's not like he's gonna make a ton of money off of representing them.  I've been busting my ass to make ends  meet for years and would love the chance to do what he's doing.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: columbusdude82 on October 25, 2006, 11:13:07 AM
Does Steve's contract require him to use only muscletech supps? Or can he use whatever he wants for his own purposes?

Given the choice, I would rather pay for true protein than get muscletech for free, but that's just me...
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Special Ed on October 25, 2006, 11:28:42 AM
I don't know what most of you guys are smoking, but why on earth would you think Steve's Muscletech contract is paying him ANY MONEY? Muscletech has in the past paid top amateurs in the form of a monthly retail credit, good for ordering supplements directly through Muscletech. There's no reason to believe Steve's deal is any different. It's not like Weider or Vyotech was about to sign him. We've all seen time and time again, top teens burn out long before reaching the pro ranks.

On the other hand, no reason Steve would turn down the free exposure to raise his profile and bring visitors to his neatly-designed website http://www.stevekuclo.com (http://www.stevekuclo.com). If he can pick up some more wins at bigger shows, he could probably pull some money out of Muscletech.

Special "Copies of Actual IFBB Pros' Muscletech Contracts Available on Request" Ed
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: nycbull on October 25, 2006, 11:52:14 AM
Well, calling him a sellout before seeing any of his ads is premature, that I concur. He should be given the benefit of the doubt. Lets hope his first ad is not a lie claiming a CellTech product is solely responsible for packing on 20lbs of lean muscle in 10 weeks. That would be a sellout no matter how you dice it.

Is it all relativism in bodybuilding today? If one guy did it and made money isn't it OK for me to get a piece of the action? If one guy gets implants for a competition whats wrong with me using a little synthol? If one Pro lied in hundreds of ads, hey whats wrong with me lying in just one ad?

I can appreciate the difficult position Steve Kuclo is in when they dangle money in front of his face, It must be very seductive. But maybe he should look around, I am sure there are other athletes out there that have made a living without being complicit in false advertising.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: El_Spiko on October 25, 2006, 07:57:18 PM
Someone told me it was for NAMBLA!
that's a bit of a stretch, he doesn't look like Marlon Brando at all :P
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: MisterMagoo on October 25, 2006, 08:13:35 PM
i'm late to the game, but come on. that's every single product advertisement. bowflex won't make you look like the guy in the commercial, using xyience won't make you chuck liddell, and muscletech won't make you gustavo badell. running in nikes won't make you michael johnson, drinking gatorade won't make you michael jordon. that's just the nature of advertising and it's not even remotely unique to bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Special Ed on October 25, 2006, 08:19:36 PM
i'm late to the game, but come on. that's every single product advertisement. bowflex won't make you look like the guy in the commercial, using xyience won't make you chuck liddell, and muscletech won't make you gustavo badell. running in nikes won't make you michael johnson, drinking gatorade won't make you michael jordon. that's just the nature of advertising and it's not even remotely unique to bodybuilding.
I disagree. XYIENCE could absolutely make someone look like Chuck Lidell.

Special "Beer Belly Champion" Ed
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: 240 is Back on October 25, 2006, 08:21:19 PM
I very rarely spend too much time reading the mag ads. tonight i did.  And I was disappointed.  They'll have 4 of the top 25 guys in the world saying this product helped them gain 10 or 20 pounds in one year... when you know they just signed, and you know they came in lighter at the NY Pro this year.  I mean, at least do some research and corroborate the silly claims with something good the guy did that year.  It saddens me that some kid will read this mag and honestly believe a 32-year old pro Bber was able to add 20 pounds of pure muscle by switching from brand X to brand Y protein.  At least be honest and promise some modest claims, and we might actually read the ad.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: El_Spiko on October 25, 2006, 08:38:46 PM
Muscletech ads are some of the most entertaining to read though, they're right up there with Fizogen (whose products include an ingredient blend called "Rage Erupt") ;D
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: knny187 on October 26, 2006, 09:56:59 AM
I very rarely spend too much time reading the mag ads. tonight i did.  And I was disappointed.  They'll have 4 of the top 25 guys in the world saying this product helped them gain 10 or 20 pounds in one year... when you know they just signed, and you know they came in lighter at the NY Pro this year.  I mean, at least do some research and corroborate the silly claims with something good the guy did that year.  It saddens me that some kid will read this mag and honestly believe a 32-year old pro Bber was able to add 20 pounds of pure muscle by switching from brand X to brand Y protein.  At least be honest and promise some modest claims, and we might actually read the ad.

Hey.....if they want me to lie about their shitty product & give me a monthly check for it.....


I would do it too.

Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: MisterMagoo on October 26, 2006, 10:00:39 AM
I very rarely spend too much time reading the mag ads. tonight i did.  And I was disappointed.  They'll have 4 of the top 25 guys in the world saying this product helped them gain 10 or 20 pounds in one year... when you know they just signed, and you know they came in lighter at the NY Pro this year.  I mean, at least do some research and corroborate the silly claims with something good the guy did that year.  It saddens me that some kid will read this mag and honestly believe a 32-year old pro Bber was able to add 20 pounds of pure muscle by switching from brand X to brand Y protein.  At least be honest and promise some modest claims, and we might actually read the ad.

well let me ask you something. how do you expect them to endorse any products, and do you think this is any different from any celebrity endorsements? it's like getting mad at a TAG commercial because you sprayed yourself and women didn't knock down your door and start humping you.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: El_Spiko on October 26, 2006, 10:18:44 AM
well let me ask you something. how do you expect them to endorse any products, and do you think this is any different from any celebrity endorsements? it's like getting mad at a TAG commercial because you sprayed yourself and women didn't knock down your door and start humping you.
That doesn't happen to you guys? Shit that must suck ;D
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: nycbull on October 26, 2006, 11:04:38 AM
well let me ask you something. how do you expect them to endorse any products, and do you think this is any different from any celebrity endorsements? it's like getting mad at a TAG commercial because you sprayed yourself and women didn't knock down your door and start humping you.

Not really, advertisers are allowed to use analogy and parody as long as it is reasonably obvious to the viewer/reader that it is not reality. But MuscleTech is pushing the boundries in manipulating copy to make the consumer believe the products can put on permanent muscle mass alone. Their copy writers are very clever, I don't think the average 16 or 17 year old will be savy enough to catch their word play.  They use words like "synergistic" and "deliver" instead of the usual "help" or "promote".

Below are some product descriptions off their website. I think they are highly misleading.
 
Anator-p70 is clinically proven and so devastatingly powerful it literally turns on your DNA for muscle growth

GAKIC is the biggest bodybuilding breakthrough ever! GAKIC is a patented pre-workout musclebuilding supplement that is unlike anything you've ever seen or tried before! Bottom line: You'll train harder, train longer, and get bigger.

LEUKIC is designed to work synergistically to bring permanent gains in high-quality, dense muscle
In one 6-week study (on previously trained males) that included diet and weight training, Nitro-Tech subjects gained an average of 8.8 pounds of lean mass!

The ingredients in Hydroxycut Hardcore have been clinically proven to decrease bodyfat by 7.9 percent and increase norepinephrine (NE), the body's key fat-burning hormone, by up to 40 percent!

Hydroxycut Hardcore ®, LEUKIC ™, and Hydrazide ™ to create the ultimate body-recomposition stack. These supplements work together to deliver a dry, shredded physique bursting with permanent, dense muscle!
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: columbusdude82 on October 26, 2006, 11:10:53 AM
Excellent post, nycbull... There is a difference between advertising, and pathological lying... Guess which Muscletech is doing!
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Matt C on October 26, 2006, 04:32:24 PM
When I started working out at a body weight of 135, I read that Kovacs gained 23 pounds of lean mass from using the cell-tech and nitro-tech stack.  This was six years ago and I was 18 and had no idea about anything bodybuilding.  So I spent the money buying the stack and...put on 23 pounds.  But I would think that I would have gained a good deal of that just by eating and working out alone.  But it was those initial gains that led me to believe that muscletech was a godsend.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 26, 2006, 04:34:01 PM
When I started working out at a body weight of 135, I read that Kovacs gained 23 pounds of lean mass from using the cell-tech and nitro-tech stack.  This was six years ago and I was 18 and had no idea about anything bodybuilding.  So I spent the money buying the stack and...put on 23 pounds.  But I would think that I would have gained a good deal of that just by eating and working out alone.  But it was those initial gains that led me to believe that muscletech was a godsend.

wheres a day1?
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: MisterMagoo on October 26, 2006, 04:58:56 PM
actually mtech doesn't lie, you just have to pay attention to what they say. for example, the nitro-tech claim. it's 100% true, but what they forget to mention is that nitro-tech has creatine in it.

the biggest one mtech uses heavily is the "ingredients used in whatever have done whatever". they cite a study on the ingredients in a product and its effectiveness, not the product itself. for example, they'll cite a study on ephedra or yohimbe and then hock hydroxycut. except that doesn't mean that the amounts in the product are effective, just the ingredients.

a lot of sleight of hand trickery, but no lying.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Matt C on October 26, 2006, 08:25:22 PM
wheres a day1?

I will go dig that picture up.  I do have it actually.  I have a bunch of old pics at my parent's house so maybe on Sunday I'll go and grab a bunch and scan them.  My start weight was around 135.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: El_Spiko on October 26, 2006, 08:31:45 PM
I will go dig that picture up.  I do have it actually.  I have a bunch of old pics at my parent's house so maybe on Sunday I'll go and grab a bunch and scan them.  My start weight was around 135.
Ha! I got ya beat there, I started in the low 120's! If we can get TA on this thread and dig up mower we can have a scrawny ass pictures contest ;D
P.S. Since everyone loves to comment on it, yes I had nipple rings, yes they look gay and they have been gone for years now :P
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: TorontoRaptorsFan on October 26, 2006, 08:33:27 PM
I will go dig that picture up.  I do have it actually.  I have a bunch of old pics at my parent's house so maybe on Sunday I'll go and grab a bunch and scan them.  My start weight was around 135.

I can't take you seriously because you attend Lakehead. Why did you choose to attend such a lousy school? Were your grades that bad?

Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: TorontoRaptorsFan on October 26, 2006, 08:54:04 PM
I can't take you seriously when you make comments like this.  I attended Lakehead because (get this), it's a five minute drive from my parent's place where I lived and in a city where all my friends are and it made me happier to stay here then to leave.

Oh, by the way, I clean sweeped pretty well every math course I ever took in high school with solid a 100% average (yes, that means I didn't make a single mistake in full courses).  I had my choice of ANY university in this country with massive scholarships to each of them.

When you finish full undergrad degrees in math, psychology, geography, and get a certificate in environmental management, then you can come on here and judge me for my intelligence, but until then, don't speak about things you know nothing about.

Seriously, how dare you judge my intelligence based on where I chose to went to school.  You have no idea who you're talking to.

The irony here is that it speaks for your lack of education to speak poorly about Lakehead university.  In Canada, it is not the same situation as it is in the United States where the difference in quality between Yale and a community college is significant.  Were you aware that in Canada, the post secondary education system is standardized?

I keep forgetting that math is somehow different to learn at other universities, lol.  At Lakehead, 1+1 still equals 2.

http://mattcanning.livejournal.com/258421.html

Go.  Educate thyself.

Nice try Matt. For those who don't know Lakehead University is one of the worst schools to attend in Canada. Basically any good who had lousy grades got rejected from the best universities. Their only course of action was to apply to Lakehead and hope for the best. Your reasons for attending Lakehead are pathetic. You basically went their to fuel your low self esteem and compete with the worst of the worst students academically. Besides in high school anyone can get 100% in basic and general math classes. The smart students took advanced courses. And just so you know in the real world any good employer out there will not give you any credability because of your schooling and degrees. Can you name me anyone famous who attended Lakehead? I can't. Just so you know I attended the University of Toronto in the commerce program.
I only lament the fact that once you graduate taxpayers such as myself will be paying for your unemployment cheques!
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: TorontoRaptorsFan on October 26, 2006, 09:13:26 PM
I think you have most people fooled on here Matt. If they only know how pathetic your school is considered by employers here in North America I think they would think differently of you. Please name me one major Fortune 500 company that would have Lakehead listed as being one of the top schools to recruit from? Can you name me any? Of course not. I also looked at the rankings for the Best B-schools in the world and Lakehead wasn't listed. Surprise, surprise. What are the grade requirements to enter Lakehead's programs?

And don't get me started on student debt. Our education system is far cheaper than what our American counterparts pay. If you're crying about paying $20k + for an education at a top notch school than you're an idiot. But I forgot you decided to attend Lakehead because that's were your friends went. Great excuse.

As for Mr. Campbell I'm not going to waste my time calling him. Do you know why? Because I make alot more money than Mr. Campbell and as a result I can't respect him. Besides you live in Thunder Bay. It's alot harder to compete against the best and brightest when you live in Toronto. Thunder Bay will not have the same quality of students as the GTA.

Trust me Matt. I owned you.

U of T >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lakehead
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: TorontoRaptorsFan on October 26, 2006, 09:24:51 PM
If all you can do is criticize my spelling than I'm not too worried. Why don't we ask some other Canadians who are working what they think of our schools. And please show me a credible magazine that lauds Lakehead for it's academic reputation. I need a good laugh because you won't find one.

Don't worry Matt I'm sure you'll see reality once those rejection calls start coming back to you when you apply for work. I can't wait to tell my staff about you. Most of them are engineers who attended U of T, Mac, and Waterloo. I'm sure they'll be laughing at your pathetic attempts to defend Lakehead's academic reputation.



Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: UpTheDosage on October 26, 2006, 09:33:54 PM
Matt C you drive me crazy. Whenever you get your panties in a bunch you correct someone's spelling or you point out grammatical errors. WHO GIVES A FUCK. Last time I checked we weren't writing essays.

I think I might call your HIGHSCHOOL math teacher and tell what a douche bag you are. I laugh my ass off at your posts. You always try to WOW us with your psychological views and your intelligence. Wow, CONGRATUFUCKINGLATIONS you're a MATH expert with 2 other degrees and you make $40,000 a year. You could also make that by being a janitor at your high school so you then could see your boyfriend Mr. Campbell everyday. Oh brother, I'm done typing about you. Please continue and wow us with your almighty intelligence. We're all so impressed.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: TorontoRaptorsFan on October 26, 2006, 09:52:13 PM
Matt,

There are alot of people who work at Microsoft that even Bill Gates would say are smarter than him. Who has more money?
The IQ equation doesn't mean anything. I skipped a couple of grades in school. I began to attend university when I was 17. At the end of the day a person's net worth is the real report card. You'll never make more money than me. I'm willing to bet on it. Think about it. I'm already a millionaire so I'm compounding my money at a far faster rate than you. I have ownership stakes in three companies and I spend a great deal of my working day researching equities. You're no match. So criticize my spelling all you want. But I'm the one guy here who is way ahead of you.

BTW I'll show your posts to my staff. I'm sure they'll get a chuckle out of your comments.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: TorontoRaptorsFan on October 26, 2006, 09:56:53 PM
Matt,

I have to say I do respect your fiesty spirit. I only posted these messages to see how you would react. I'll keep in touch with you. If you require any business advice let me know. I'm always willing to help out someone who is always working hard to succeed.

Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: UpTheDosage on October 26, 2006, 09:57:47 PM
Err...excuse me?  Who was the one who started with the rude and judgmental remarks to begin with?  Here's a hint: it wasn't me dude.  You bite me, I bite back.  How's that for you?

Again, allow me to point out that I was the one who was initially called out and judged:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=103042.msg1488511#msg1488511

I'm not going to sit here and boast about my accomplishments for no reason at all.  But when someone has the nerve to judge me or suggest I am unintelligent, I WILL reply.  Is this clear?  It really should be.  UpTheDosage - you seem to totally ignore the fact that TorontoRaptorsFan started with this garbage.  Care to comment on that at all?

ok ok, i know you're defending yourself but it just gets old. just like the all drugs thing gets old. Are you an intelligent person? Yes, we all know good for you. Do I give a fuck where you attended school? No I do not as I feel a degree is degree, who gives a shit where it's from. I mean, come on, you gave the name and phone # of your high school math teacher and dared toronto boy to call him and ask, "Who his best math student ever was." Sorry, I found that a little comical and childish. Now continue on with your debate with TorontoRaptorsFan because he's the one that has the problem with where you attended school.  
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Special Ed on October 26, 2006, 09:59:44 PM
Sigh...Ehh, why do we allow Canadians to ehh post here? Can't someone ehh start GetbigCanada for all those hosers?

Special "Canuck You" Ed
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: The True Adonis on October 26, 2006, 11:45:54 PM
Matt`s first Meltdown.   Interesting.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: nycbull on October 27, 2006, 06:38:10 AM

Call (807) 767-1631.  Ask for Mr. Campbell who is the chair of the math department at Hammarskjold high school.  Ask him who the greatest math student he ever taught was.

Do it.

Oh, and please get back to me.

hahaha, can you say "owned"?

Dude I can't believe you posted your teachers phone number on a public internte site.

Plus you guys are highjacking this thread, move on.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Original Sin on October 27, 2006, 06:42:21 AM
Dude I can't believe you posted your teachers phone number on a public internte site.

Plus you guys are highjacking this thread, move on.

Oh yea! he is really cool as well, just phone his Mom and ask her!

Do it.

Oh, and please get back to me.

hahaha, can you say "owned"?

 ::)
Oh brother  ::)
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: HUGEPECS on October 27, 2006, 07:37:34 AM
You're trying WAAAAY to hard, Dante. Now...TheBlockHead is known to speak "street" or "ebonics" on here as you say...'talking black'. I do that when I make FUN OF not because I think I am. You're country suburban ass obviously doesn't get it.

 Just quit while you're ahead...call Ron or PM him and tell him that I and davidpaul hurt your feelings and Ron Himself will PM me and place a warning on me and I will continue to laugh at you as you feel all warm and secure over on Mayhem as the nutswingers fondle your balls for you. You must get thrown off that on here...you're just this middle aged clown with the name of a convienence store clerk in a cult-film they just recently made a sequel to who is a big believer in rest-pause training.



lol....nice comeback, blockhead, cant stop laughing at this doggcrappshit ;D ;D
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: rocket on October 27, 2006, 07:46:36 AM
Come on.. who the fok are you kidding trying to compare commerce to partial differential equations.

Haha oh brother.  I love the delusional idiots who actually think their degrees involving around 95% memorisation require skill.

(And yes, I did have to deal with partial diff myself )
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: sgt. d on October 27, 2006, 08:03:53 AM
MattC needs to stop complaining about all drugs bodybuilders, its really annoying. Nobody cares what school you went to or how much you make a year. I dont want to be mean but 40,000 dollar a year is not alot. I make almost 3 times that and you dont see me cheerleading around getbig telling people. Hope this helps
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: TorontoRaptorsFan on October 27, 2006, 08:07:30 AM
Thanks to everyone who understood my point of view. I have no hate towards MattC. I think he's a good guy. I just hate it when someone brags about how good a crappy school is. If Matt was really smart he would have taken his scholarship offers and put his brains up against the best and brightest at another school. Instead he ended up being the big fish in a small pond. That I don't respect.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: The Squadfather on October 27, 2006, 08:23:21 AM
Thanks to everyone who understood my point of view. I have no hate towards MattC. I think he's a good guy. I just hate it when someone brags about how good a crappy school is. If Matt was really smart he would have taken his scholarship offers and put his brains up against the best and brightest at another school. Instead he ended up being the big fish in a small pond. That I don't respect.

hahahaha, the University of Toronto is a "good school"? if i was going to brag i'd bring up Harvard, Stanford, Caltech, MIT or John's Hopkins not the University of Toronto.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: rocket on October 27, 2006, 08:37:06 AM
MattC needs to stop complaining about all drugs bodybuilders, its really annoying. Nobody cares what school you went to or how much you make a year. I dont want to be mean but 40,000 dollar a year is not alot. I make almost 3 times that and you dont see me cheerleading around getbig telling people. Hope this helps

Its coming from a website which requires very little maintanence you knob.  He's built  himself an earner and now he's doing what you might only realise is the name of the game very late.  He's living life - Not selling his soul for a wage.

Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: TorontoRaptorsFan on October 27, 2006, 08:51:34 AM
hahahaha, the University of Toronto is a "good school"? if i was going to brag i'd bring up Harvard, Stanford, Caltech, MIT or John's Hopkins not the University of Toronto.

Here you go Squadfather enjoy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Toronto

To save you some time:

It's ranked by Newsweek as the 18th best university in the world and first in Canada
75 PhD programs
8 Nobel Laureates are affiliated with the school as students or faculty
U of T  ranks second in publishing more research than any other university in North America. The first is Harvard.
The fourth largest library system after Harvard, Yale, and the University of Illinois
Has the third best research library in North America after Harvard and Yale


Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Farcry on October 27, 2006, 08:53:23 AM
ur making fun of someone who didn't go to a fancy college, thats just mean,
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: TorontoRaptorsFan on October 27, 2006, 08:55:31 AM
ur making fun of someone who didn't go to a fancy college, thats just mean,

I question the sanity of someone who claims that he's smart and received scholarship offers to go to a better school and instead chose to go to a 3rd tier school.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: newmom on October 27, 2006, 09:34:16 AM
maybe he couldnt afford a big fancy school and toronto was the right fit for him...should'nt knock someone for continuing their education
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: columbusdude82 on October 27, 2006, 12:03:54 PM
How about you guys take this to pm or another thread and let this thread get back on topic?
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: doison on October 27, 2006, 01:50:53 PM
Exactly!  TorontoRaptorsFan: have you ever considered that I wanted to stay where the people who meant the most to me were?  Unlike you, not all of us derive happiness from material goods and superficialities.  Yes, I gave up full scholarships at better schools because I wanted to stay where my heart was.  Raymond Balec was from Thunder Bay and was also the TOP graduating high school student in the COUNTRY in 2001 with a clean 100% average.  He went to LU in the chemistry program for three years and was accepted into med school for 2004 - his average was still 100% or close to it throughout his entire degree.  There are students at U of T who do four years of chemistry who don't get accepted to med school.  It doesn't matter what school you go to when you're getting 100% in your major classes like I was.

You REALLY called out the wrong person here.  I know that Lakehead in general has fewer high achieving students than U of T, but only top tier U of T math students would get a job in the field over me.  Your mistake was to assume I was just some run of the mill dumbass who went to "Last chance Lakehead" and I don't think you had any idea or expectation that I didn't fit the mold.

I never started out by bragging in this thread.  You want to call me on my lack of intelligence?  Expect me to bite back.  I just have to question the audacity of a commerce graduate who has difficulty spelling who is trying to claim intellectual superiority to an individual who completed a full undergrad degree in pure math.  And I'm not bragging about my income either, but as rocket said, it comes from a website which requires little maintenance.

PS - the phone number was for my high school, not my teacher's home.

PPS - U of T is NOT a school to be bragging about!  I never bragged about LU and wouldn't for that matter.  By no means is U of T something to brag about either!


Wait......
You had SUCH good grades, and were SO intelligent that you could have gone to ANY school in the entire country......But, you had NO scholarship offers to ANY of them, and had to go to a shitty school instead??

You do realize how ridiculous this is, right? 

As for close mindedness.....you chose to attend a college that sucked, because it was 5 min from your house, and you didn't want to leave your friends.  MONSTER open mindedness there!

And, I find it nice that you chose to illustrate the fact that your school was good, because 1+1=2.....they do teach you well in Canada. 
You'll be promoted to asst. manager in charge of snowshoe stringing in no time!
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: UpTheDosage on October 27, 2006, 02:04:48 PM
I'd say thats enough about Matt C and his debate with Torontoraptorsfan. I think it's solved.

Matt your are exactly right about bodybuilding needing Steve, and he does not need bodybuilding. I talk to him about once a week and he's really got his shit together. He just loves training and bodybuilding, that's why he does it. Trust me, he didn't start this lifestyle in hopes of receiving a "lucrative" supplement contract.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: 240 is Back on October 27, 2006, 02:19:35 PM
Guys,

fact is, there are high school dropouts who out-earn top college graduates.  school gives you tools and exposure to concepts.  you could get the exact same thing you get at harvard with a library card and an internet connection.  True, the degree will get more doors opened and is a requirement for professional certification positions, but for 95% of us hustling types, whether entrepreneurs or 9-to-5'ers, once you start a job your degree or GPA or courseload doesn't matter.  Your ability to produce, earn, adapt, and see opportunities and handle yourself in situations is all that matters.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: sgt. d on October 27, 2006, 02:24:56 PM
Its coming from a website which requires very little maintanence you knob.  He's built  himself an earner and now he's doing what you might only realise is the name of the game very late.  He's living life - Not selling his soul for a wage.



Hi Matt C
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: sgt. d on October 27, 2006, 02:26:40 PM
Thats good that he is making money but no need to go around bragging about it on here. We don't give a shit. The anti steroid attitude doesn't help either.

edit: Another thing I learned from MattC is he lies just about everything he says.  :-\
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Debussey on October 27, 2006, 02:40:24 PM


edit: Another thing I learned from MattC is he lies just about everything he says.  :-\

You are wrong. MattT does not lie.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: 240 is Back on October 27, 2006, 02:41:46 PM
You are wrong. MattT does not lie.

Hi Matt C rocket.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Debussey on October 27, 2006, 03:00:20 PM
Hi Matt C rocket.

I am not Tredders, Tomr76, Jaejonna or Rocket. I am Debussey.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 27, 2006, 03:04:00 PM
I am not Tredders, Tomr76, Jaejonna or Rocket. I am Debussey.

You are me and I you, now that if that really is the case, who is Gary busey?

Jeff FAHEY or Nick Nolte?
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: warrior_code on October 27, 2006, 03:24:04 PM
I am gonna get a microbiology degree then go to med skool and be a cardiac surgeon and make fucking mad cash

matt, you seem like a smart guy why did you decide to get such a low calibre degree? I mean 60k a year? c'mon that is not good. 
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: warrior_code on October 27, 2006, 03:25:46 PM
I go to u of m btw
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: doison on October 27, 2006, 03:47:21 PM
I am gonna get a microbiology degree then go to med skool and be a cardiac surgeon and make fucking mad cash

matt, you seem like a smart guy why did you decide to get such a low calibre degree? I mean 60k a year? c'mon that is not good. 

Yup, after 4 years of undergrad, a year of your life devoted to the MCAT's, 4 years of med school, 3 years of residency, 3 years of a cardiology fellowship, and 3 years of an interventional fellowship....you'll be ROLLING in it. 
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Debussey on October 27, 2006, 03:48:58 PM
You are me and I you, now that if that really is the case, who is Gary busey?

Jeff FAHEY or Nick Nolte?

Gary Busey is what is in all of us. Gary Busey is god, the creator of the universe.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: knny187 on October 27, 2006, 04:02:01 PM
Gary Busey is what is in all of us. Gary Busey is god, the creator of the universe.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Debussey on October 27, 2006, 04:42:01 PM


Thank you young Padawan!
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: natural al on October 27, 2006, 04:51:36 PM
I am gonna get a microbiology degree then go to med skool and be a cardiac surgeon and make fucking mad cash

matt, you seem like a smart guy why did you decide to get such a low calibre degree? I mean 60k a year? c'mon that is not good. 

easier said than done my friend.  I started going to school to be an engineer a long time ago and I busted my fucking ass.  I worked in a shop 55-60 hours a week and went to school full time.  I was up until 12:30 everynight and up and at work at 6 the next morning.  I studied on my lunch.  I wrote physics equations on my fucking hands so I could study while I did repairs on die's I built that were running in 150-200 ton presses.  I carried around 3*5 cards all day long, studied calculas while I was driving, while I was eating and probably while I was doing the old lady.   Eventually I got my degree but I barely use it and I'm more emplyable because of the software that I know....what I'm saying is it's alot harder than it sounds, if your young stay at home as long as you can and study your ass off, don't put yourself in my position and expect to succeed...everyone I know was burned out on school after 4 years, it takes a special person to go to school long enough to be a doctor.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: rocket on October 27, 2006, 06:21:26 PM
Hi Matt C

All of you people harassing him on his wage really need to understand the difference between Matt C and yourselves.  It amazes me that you cannot.   The guy probably works 1/4 of the time most of you do.

Its amazing how few of you apparently value spare time.  Spare time is far better than any wage.  All you people can do is buy "more shit".  Matt can waltz around being one of those annoying cunts who seem to perpetually be on a holiday.  To me thats quality of life.  Haha, fancy comparing your wage to his.  Look at 240, imagine how much more time he is spending with his new baby.

You are all slaves compared to matt in terms of work

(No I'm not Matt, I just know Matt's situation very well)
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Debussey on October 27, 2006, 06:23:34 PM
All of you people harassing him on his wage really need to understand the difference between Matt C and yourselves.  It amazes me that you cannot.   The guy probably works 1/4 of the time most of you do.

Its amazing how few of you apparently value spare time.  Spare time is far better than any wage.  All you people can do is buy "more shit".  Matt can waltz around being one of those annoying cunts who seem to perpetually be on a holiday.  To me thats quality of life.  Haha, fancy comparing your wage to his.  Look at 240, imagine how much more time he is spending with his new baby.

You are all slaves compared to matt in terms of work

(No I'm not Matt, I just know Matt's situation very well)

We should all live like Gary Busey. The legend shows us the way.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: sgt. d on October 27, 2006, 06:24:06 PM
All of you people harassing him on his wage really need to understand the difference between Matt C and yourselves.  It amazes me that you cannot.   The guy probably works 1/4 of the time most of you do.

Its amazing how few of you apparently value spare time.  Spare time is far better than any wage.  All you people can do is buy "more shit".  Matt can waltz around being one of those annoying cunts who seem to perpetually be on a holiday.  To me thats quality of life.  Haha, fancy comparing your wage to his.  Look at 240, imagine how much more time he is spending with his new baby.

You are all slaves compared to matt in terms of work

(No I'm not Matt, I just know Matt's situation very well)

Yeak ok Matt C.

ps. 240 does not have a wife or baby
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: The True Adonis on October 27, 2006, 06:24:23 PM
All of you people harassing him on his wage really need to understand the difference between Matt C and yourselves.  It amazes me that you cannot.   The guy probably works 1/4 of the time most of you do.

Its amazing how few of you apparently value spare time.  Spare time is far better than any wage.  All you people can do is buy "more shit".  Matt can waltz around being one of those annoying cunts who seem to perpetually be on a holiday.  To me thats quality of life.  Haha, fancy comparing your wage to his.  Look at 240, imagine how much more time he is spending with his new baby.

You are all slaves compared to matt in terms of work

(No I'm not Matt, I just know Matt's situation very well)

I agree.  The envious always hold disdain for those with spare time.  Time is something you can`t buy or get back.  
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: rocket on October 27, 2006, 06:32:35 PM
We should all live like Gary Busey. The legend shows us the way.

Essentially you could drop Gary Busey's name every post and be a hit with me.  Hail him.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: rocket on October 27, 2006, 06:35:36 PM
Hi Matt.

Hi Rocket
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: 240 is Back on October 27, 2006, 06:42:11 PM
Look at 240, imagine how much more time he is spending with his new baby.

true that.  i thank god every day that i am not spending 8 hours at work, plus driving time, plus gym, away from my baby every day.  I dunno how many hours I work, but I know it doesn't ever feel like work.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: doison on October 28, 2006, 10:15:38 AM
I had scholarship offers to every university I applied to.


You had scholarship offers, but you chose your crappy university because it was cheap? 
Sounds like some monster scholarship offers.  I'm not talking about a $1,000 (insert locally famous person's name) award.  I'm talking about scholarships. 

If you had real scholarships, money wouldn't have been enough of an issue to make you go to podunk U back home. 

At least we know you live in Canada.  No where else in North America would someone be able to live comfortably on $40k a year.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: The True Adonis on October 28, 2006, 10:24:55 AM
You had scholarship offers, but you chose your crappy university because it was cheap? 
Sounds like some monster scholarship offers.  I'm not talking about a $1,000 (insert locally famous person's name) award.  I'm talking about scholarships. 

If you had real scholarships, money wouldn't have been enough of an issue to make you go to podunk U back home. 

At least we know you live in Canada.  No where else in North America would someone be able to live comfortably on $40k a year.

You are an idiot actually.

Matt is making about the COMBINED MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME for AMERICA by himself.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: The True Adonis on October 28, 2006, 10:26:22 AM
The Household income in the United States is a measure of private wealth commonly used by the United States government and private institutions. To measure the income of a household, the pre-tax earnings of all residents over the age of 15 are combined. The residents of the household do not have to be related to the householder for their earnings to be considered part of the household's income.[1] The use of household income is often seen as the most dependable measure of personal wealth, as people tend to live in households that include other wage earners besides themselves. In 2004, the median annual household income according to the US Census Bureau was determined to be $43,389,[2] nearly identical to that of Canada which was roughly $41,510 (USD) in the year 2000.[3] The median income per household member (including all working and non-working members above the age of 14) in the year 2003 was $23,535.[4] In the year 2005, there were approximately 113,146,000 households in the United States. 15.73% of all households had annual incomes exceeding $100,000,[5] while another 12.7% fell below the federal poverty threshold.[6] While the aggregate income distribution tends to tilt towards the top with the top 6.37% earning roughly one third of all income, it is important to note that the those with upper-middle incomes controlled an even greater share of the total earned income.[7] Households with moderately high middle class incomes ranging from $50,000 to $100,000 a year, represented 29.2% of all households, yet earned a far greater share (c.a. 40%) of all income.[5]

The 2005 economic survey also found that households in the top two income quintiles, those with an annual household income exceeding $55,331, had a mean of two income earners while those in the lower quintiles (2nd and middle quintile) had mean of only one income earner per household. Due to high unemployment among those in the lowest quintile the mean number of income earners for this particular group was determined to be zero.[5] Overall the United States followed the trend of other industrialized countries with a relatively large population of relatively affluent households outnumbering the poor. Among those in-between the relative extremes of the income strata a large and quite powerful section of households with moderately high middle class incomes[7] and an even larger number of households with moderately low incomes.[5] While the median household income has increased 44% since 1990 it has decreased very slightly when considering inflation. In 1990, the median household income was determined to be $30,056; $44,603 in 2003 dollars. In 2003, the median household income was, however, only $43,389, showing a slight decrease.[8][9]

Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: The True Adonis on October 28, 2006, 10:31:50 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/Income_groups_limited.jpg)
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: The True Adonis on October 28, 2006, 10:37:53 AM
 Income by state
 
An average California home in Salinas, CA. In 2004, California was the most expensive state in the nation[28] and had a median household income of $49,894 (rank 13).[29]
This map shows the bottom fifteen states according to median household income.
This map shows those states whose median household income is below the national median.The median household income by state ranged from $32,589 or 26.7% below national median, in West Virginia to $57,352 or 29% above national median, in New Hampshire. Connecticut, which is often referred to as the nation's wealthiest state,[30] came in at number four with a median household income of $55,970. California which had the highest median home price in the nation.[28] where home prices have far outpaced incomes[31] only ranked number thirteen with a median household income of $49,894.[29] While California's median income was not near enough to afford the average California home or even a starter home, West Virginia, which had the nation's lowest median household income also had the nation's lowest median home price.[28][29] The northeastern states, more specifically those located in New England, as well as the western states had the highest median household income. Of the top fifteen states, all were located in the Northeast and West, with the sole exception of Minnesota which ranked fifth. The southern states had the by far lowest median household income with nine out of the country's fifteen poorest states being located in the South. It should be noted, however, that New York, Pennsylvania and the District of Columbia also fell below the national median. Overall, median household income tended to be the highest in nation's most urbanized northeastern, north mid-western and western States, while rural and mostly southern states had the lowest median household income.[29]

Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: saucetradomous on October 28, 2006, 10:42:31 AM
rocket hit it when he said that I am the kind of guy who always seems like he is perpetually on a holiday.  My friend just graduated from the university of Waterloo and went to work in his field in New York, earning a little more than I am right now (maybe $55,000 a year), and keeps telling me how much he hates working from 8:30 until 5:00 between Monday and Friday.  Once he is finished his shift at work, he goes to the gym, has a meal, and in no time he has to get to bed in order to get a full night's sleep and wake up for around 7:00 to get to work on time. 

Shit I get up at 4am and get home around 6pm and then go to the gym.  I finish up at around 7:30-8o'clock and then shower and eat so by the time I get to sleep it's close to 10pm.  It fucking sucks dank.  Matt and 240 have got it right, now if I could only get my freelance drawing going I'd be living more comfortably like these two internet nobodies :)
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: The True Adonis on October 28, 2006, 10:50:31 AM
Shit I get up at 4am and get home around 6pm and then go to the gym.  I finish up at around 7:30-8o'clock and then shower and eat so by the time I get to sleep it's close to 10pm.  It fucking sucks dank.  Matt and 240 have got it right, now if I could only get my freelance drawing going I'd be living more comfortably like these two internet nobodies :)

Just sleep less.  Then you will have more time.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: saucetradomous on October 28, 2006, 10:52:08 AM
Just sleep less.  Then you will have more time.

Gotta love the adonis principles
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: The True Adonis on October 28, 2006, 10:53:30 AM
Gotta love the adonis principles

Seriously.

Why do you sleep so much?  Do you REALLY think you are going to get bigger?
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 28, 2006, 11:13:08 AM
Seriously.

Why do you sleep so much?  Do you REALLY think you are going to get bigger?
hahaha another myth bust by Adonis, not only don't you need more than a few scant grams of protein a day but you don't need to sleep more than a couple of hours a day at most. Hell, skip a few days of sleep if you're busy, sleep when you have time! It's too easy!
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: saucetradomous on October 28, 2006, 11:14:13 AM
Seriously.

Why do you sleep so much?  Do you REALLY think you are going to get bigger?

Nah Man I think I'm at my natural limit already ;)
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: McFarland on October 28, 2006, 11:48:34 AM
Matt you've officially got issues, bro.   ;D
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: The True Adonis on October 28, 2006, 11:59:24 AM
doison,

The scholarships only covered tuition.  Even with tuition paid for, I would still have travel and living expenses to deal with, which would be another 5-10K per year.  The scholarships I got were strict academic scholarships covering the top tier of graduating averages, e.g., $X paid out over four years (for students who had a graduating average of 95% or higher), assuming an 80% was maintained during each year at university.  That money would have gone a long way, but Lakehead offered the same financial aid.  So not only did I save on the living expenses, but what little expenses I had (around $5,000 a year) were mostly covered.  So after all was said and done, I ended up spending about as much at Lakehead as I would have in just one year anywhere else (even with the scholarships).  You have to understand, I grew up lower middle class.  My parents raised five kids earning less money than I do right now.  To me, looking for value was always important to me, and Lakehead provided that value.

I think Lakehead is going up though - we just got a med school last year and there have been new facilities built.  It really is a great place.  I can't imagine anyone coming here and not feeling they received value.  To me it is simply an incredible place.  I'm fond of it and would pick it over any school.  Some of the greatest times in my life were during my time at LU and I plan to be here for a while yet.  I'm actually here right now, lol.  Just thought I would pop in to have lunch and check out getbig before going to the gym.  :)

And yes, in Canada it is easy to live off $40,000 a year.  My expenses are really only around $15,000 a year, but I put pretty well all the remaining money on the outstanding $38,000 debt I have on my house (mostly paid off due to years of saving money since I went to LU).  If I were to really sit down and calculate what I made this year, it could have been higher, since I made another $10,000 subletting my house to my friends.  I know this sounds like nothing, but you can honestly live very comfortably here with that.  Cost of living is very low.

In the summer I got a job at a club just for fun and to meet girls, which makes me a few extra bucks, but I would honestly work that job for free.

I had so many jobs that I hated in my life that I knew I would never be able to do the 9-5 thing.  I would rather make a meager income than make a fortune but have no free time.  I also agree that you have the potential to make a good living doing your own thing.  When I started making my website, I was teaching myself HTML as I was making it.  If 240 and I can do it, anyone can, lol.

Don`t feel bad Matt,

You make what the MEDIAN TOTAL HOUSEHOLD INCOME MAKES in AMERICA.  That is EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE FAMILY!

You are doing well. 
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 28, 2006, 12:32:25 PM
money is easy to make if you know  :-*

if i recall adonis was driving an esprit in his l8 teens early 20's.

Block. you owe me that 500 bucks G. ;D
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: Blockhead on October 28, 2006, 12:39:35 PM

 Ay player...Ay...

 You know I be all good for that loot...me and that ni66a O-Dawg got that thing to do this weekend once we done...BOOM, I'll git yo money...uknowwutImsayin???
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 28, 2006, 12:46:49 PM
Ay player...Ay...

 You know I be all good for that loot...me and that ni66a O-Dawg got that thing to do this weekend once we done...BOOM, I'll git yo money...uknowwutImsayin???

wells that Joeys cut he owed me from last week I think, fucker owed me big - been ducking me for a long time, You can take yo' time on the 500, I know your good for it.

I gotta pay off some fucking Guinea's this week. Its becoming harder for a ni**a to earn a crust.
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: nycbull on October 28, 2006, 01:02:47 PM
why are n**gas always paying off guineas and jews?
Title: Re: Steve Kuclo signs with Muscletech
Post by: davidpaul on October 28, 2006, 01:23:28 PM
why are n**gas always paying off guineas and jews?

cos those fuckas have got better infrastucture/organisation. The Jews are always better organised, you will never see a Jew doing hit's/ doing any real actual crime, or many wops selling shit on the street/doing liquor store holdups. They run the show higher up in many Cities. But in Compton, the Streers is all there is G, and the Ni**as and Essais run that shit.