from MMAll drugs. 8) What the hell is on his shoulder?
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All drugs. 8) What the hell is on his shoulder?unknown :-\
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GH+Anadrol+Tren+Test is a helluva stack
his left tit seems to be crawling away from his neck.
given his genetics, he must have spent 12 months in a hospital bed shitting in a bedpan to lose that much muscle.Yea his genetics to respond to gear...
given his genetics, he must have spent 12 months in a hospital bed shitting in a bedpan to lose that much muscle.
his left tit seems to be crawling away from his neck.
given his genetics, he must have spent 12 months in a hospital bed shitting in a bedpan to lose that much muscle.
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that's what happens when you don't workout, diet and stop doing steriods
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Fixed
Not as much as white supremacists :D
Gawd bodybuilding sucks.
Not as much as white supremacists :D?
yeah that doesn't help either but if you don't lift weights and eat high protein how can somebody expect to be noticably muscular?
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?poking fun at his sig
the term "all drugs" comes to mind.
Not as much as white supremacists :D>:(
>:(Does that mean you'll stop posting when you hit 88 :P
Not as much as white supremacists :D
All drugs. 8) What the hell is on his shoulder?
Looks like it might be a black panther.I thought that.
Does that mean you'll stop posting when you hit 88 :Pmaybe I'll think about it at 14/88
Kill whitey!>:( >:( >:(
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LOL!I just love this pic ;D Psycho :D
remember when priest said dillet's dosage was next to nothing?
sounds like a load of shit to me.
The fact that he has hair really doesn't prove anything. The hair loss thing is overblown. Jay is probably on a truckload of stuff, yet he has a full head of hair. It depends on the individual. I don't see any reason to believe him. According to another thread the dude owes tons of back taxes. He acts like an ass when people try to protect him. The guy makes bad decisions. He digs his own whole. Did I mention he got an ugly ass tattoo on his face?I didn't put the whole case on his hair ::) more his overall appearance and yea, I could be wrong, Lee could be lying about it. I just tend to believe him because he doesn't strike me as a person who would give a fuck if people knew he did bigger cycles and he doesn't look like Palumbu/others who appear way older than they are, have heads 3 times to big, a gut that it beyond diet and on and on, but yea I could be wrong, just a guess.
I've seen naturals who are 5'11 and around 200 in good condition with 17" cut arms and they impress me. You can attain a decent physique naturally, but the "wow" size factor absolutely cannot be there without hormones, period.
from MMis this really dillet..look at that gut :o.looks like an obese man..how old is this pic really?
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The role of gear is overrated imo...
You can pop all gear you want, but if you have shit genes and/or havent reached your max natural gains it won't make you look like a pro. As someone said, you'll be puffed up and blotted. In the 70's pros prolly ised 20% of what is used today, mainly orals like d-bol, and still managed to look excellent (arnie, franco, nubret, etc)
Gear is just an icing on the cake, the cherry on top, not the whole thing. Genes, stamina, determination, and discipline - thats the real tools.
is this really dillet..look at that gut :o.looks like an obese man..how old is this pic really?.
can you post an after shot.that would be impressive
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f**k you're stupid ::)
didnt you know that? shadow is the kind of person that a girl could make him do anything for her..he would devour his on feces for a woman, and blow a 58 year old trucker named conrad mermelson.
I've been a regular browser of these boards for years so I well remember the shadow's arrival- but he just kind of snuk up on me. I don't recall him being this stupid at the beginning of his posting career.
It's strange, because we all know his stupid, but then he goes and posts a real breathtaking gem which is just so dumbfoundingly retarded it leaves me wondering- is this a human or some kind of dextrous chimpanzee we're talking to?
Well, logical? you've certainly hit the ground running, what with 63+ posts per day. :o I don't think even Lucious Fox (is he still around?) hit that mark when he was on his religious kick.
I've been a regular browser of these boards for years so I well remember the shadow's arrival- but he just kind of snuk up on me. I don't recall him being this stupid at the beginning of his posting career.
It's strange, because we all know his stupid, but then he goes and posts a real breathtaking gem which is just so dumbfoundingly retarded it leaves me wondering- is this a human or some kind of dextrous chimpanzee we're talking to?
The pic reminds me of the pic tures of Lee when he went hog wild, and was a 270+ pound KFC eating machine. That round mound of batter and chicken grease seriously transformed.Yup. Scary pic...thats for sure. I saw him at the Montreal show in september. He looked alright. There should be pics of him in that show on the contests or bbdg board. Itook a tone of drugs for him to get about 75% of that freaky look he had back. Too bad....stick a fork in him. He's done.
didnt you know that? shadow is the kind of person that a girl could make him do anything for her..he would devour his on feces for a woman, and blow a 58 year old trucker named conrad mermelson.don't tell me about your sexual experiences with a trucker named conrad mermelson..you even knew his age..wow
Well, logical? you've certainly hit the ground running, what with 63+ posts per day. :o I don't think even Lucious Fox (is he still around?) hit that mark when he was on his religious kick.
Shadow seemed very normal in the beginning, you know just another BBing fan with intelligent arguments but over the past month or two things have really turned upside down. He now rants on and on with the most retarded posts I have seen as of late and meltsdown on an hourly basis. What the hell happened to him, maybe he used to be on medication and never got his shit refilled, I don't know but he hasn't been sane for a while now.don't tell me what happened to you when you were a kid..your father fingered you alot i guess
Shadow seemed very normal in the beginning, you know just another BBing fan with intelligent arguments but over the past month or two things have really turned upside down. He now rants on and on with the most retarded posts I have seen as of late and meltsdown on an hourly basis. What the hell happened to him, maybe he used to be on medication and never got his shit refilled, I don't know but he hasn't been sane for a while now.
don't tell me what happened to you when you were a kid..your father fingered you alot i guess
my attitude towards women is perfectly fine..its your attitude that makes me wanna punch you in the face you logical douche bag
I think he just went on a power trip. He probably figured out the anonymity of the board and that he could get away with saying anything. Maybe he's submissive offline and needs somewhere to vent up all that pent up frustration and rage at being exploited and manipulated- his attitude to women says alot about him.
my attitude towards women is perfectly fine..its your attitude that makes me wanna punch you in the face you logical douche bag
don't tell me what happened to you when you were a kid..your father fingered you alot i guess
This is exactly what I am talking about, I may joke with you now and then but you always seem to come at me with some vulgar ass shit and go way over the line (like there is a line here ;D). Seriously am I one of the guys that follows you from thread to thread harassing you.... NO, yet you still get all offended if I say anything about you. What happened to you really, you have changed from a normal member into a complete weirdo like DA, Debussey or db2431 whatever the f**k his name is.
my attitude towards women is perfectly fine..its your attitude that makes me wanna punch you in the face you logical douche bag
given his genetics, he must have spent 12 months in a hospital bed shitting in a bedpan to lose that much muscle.
Never thought I'd hear the words logical douche bag used as an insult
This is exactly what I am talking about, I may joke with you now and then but you always seem to come at me with some vulgar ass shit and go way over the line (like there is a line here ;D). Seriously am I one of the guys that follows you from thread to thread harassing you.... NO, yet you still get all offended if I say anything about you. What happened to you really, you have changed from a normal member into a complete weirdo like DA, Debussey or db2431 whatever the f**k his name is.hahaha..do you take my comments seriously.hahahahah.dude i am a normal member.sometimes only talking about 24/7 sometimes gets a bit boring.my vulgar ass comments are just for laughs and nothing else..i am sorry if you feel offended.dude why do you take this place seriously.i just have a little fun time to time with you guys..i ain't like this in real life..this is just non-sense board talk..who gives a shit anyways..i don't feel offended by your comments..if fact i enjoy them.i am cool with it
hahaha..do you take my comments seriously.hahahahah.dude i am a normal member.sometimes only talking about 24/7 sometimes gets a bit boring.my vulgar ass comments are just for laughs and nothing else..i am sorry if you feel offended.dude why do you take this place seriously.i just have a little fun time to time with you guys..i ain't like this in real life..this is just non-sense board talk..who gives a shit anyways..i don't feel offended by your comments..if fact i enjoy them.i am cool with it
The pic reminds me of the pic tures of Lee when he went hog wild, and was a 270+ pound KFC eating machine. That round mound of batter and chicken grease seriously transformed.
lol.. ;).dude i am really amazed to see that you guys take my stupid bashing seriously.like i said before this is just board talk.when i get bored i come here and pull someones leg and get my own leg pulled..its all good
So there is intelligence in there somewhere after all?
Personally I find this impressive......drugs or not you still gotta train your ass off in the gym
I am impressed by his response to gear. Not everyone can have a before and after shots that impressive in that short a period of time.
There are tons of mother fuckers on site that on a gear and can't approach dillet
They eat better, train harder, take more gear and still look like crap. And here is this fat old man with superior genetic responders...amazing
hahaha..do you take my comments seriously.hahahahah.dude i am a normal member.sometimes only talking about 24/7 sometimes gets a bit boring.my vulgar ass comments are just for laughs and nothing else..i am sorry if you feel offended.dude why do you take this place seriously.i just have a little fun time to time with you guys..i ain't like this in real life..this is just non-sense board talk..who gives a shit anyways..i don't feel offended by your comments..if fact i enjoy them.i am cool with it
Well that's good to hear but to tell you the truth until you just wrote that no one on here ever thought you were just joking, seriously you write so much stupid crap that it's hard to tell when you are joking and when you are having another meltdown. Well either way you should watch the context in which you write your comments and go f**k your mother shit face.lol...meltdown..your too funny dude.who gives a shit about 'meltdowns' anyways..meltdowns are fun dude.i love melting down
drugs or not you still gotta train your ass off in the gym
lol...meltdown..your too funny dude.who gives a shit about 'meltdowns' anyways..meltdowns are fun dude.i love melting down
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drugs or not you still gotta train your ass off in the gymIncorrect. I see guys who are very big and train like complete pussies. I've got zero respect for these clowns and their "mind muscle" connection. The reason most people don't train natural is because they can't.
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The ironic thing is that his before before picture will look the same as his after after picture.
I doubt that pics's accurate.What like photoshoped ::)
lol.. ;).dude i am really amazed to see that you guys take my stupid bashing seriously.like i said before this is just board talk.when i get bored i come here and pull someones leg and get my own leg pulled..its all good
What like photoshoped ::)
It looks "Muscleteched". The art of making an athlete look like shit in before pics.I think he's sticking his gut out, but that's not the before pic from the ads.
See, tries to be dominant online but has no experience with ever being in a position of power due to his submissive nature, so his threats carry no weight and are constantly laughed at.
So, shut the f**k up you pathetic weakling.
How many stars look bad just 6 months off drugs? Juicers want credit for something they didn't earn. A juicer has temporary muscles. They will rationalize that it isn't true to protect their fragile ego. I live by the beach and every summer I see the new batch of chemical wonders. Everyone including 80 year old grandmas know the truth about these cosmetic chemical muscles in a syringe wonders got there.
I have been around enough to see the same pattern. A college guy juices on and off for years. When most hit their 30's they stop using due to health, financial, or legal reasons. Many threw away their education and career pursuing their drugs. Almost all users eventually start selling. It might be a small amount or large. Have you ever run into a steroid dealer that only dealt in roids? It's only one of their many products. Just like any other drug dealer it's core involves violence when it comes to money. It's sad that this sub culture of a sport attracts so many insecure young men that would sacrifice health to impress fools.
Train natural. Your physique will be there for you whole life. It won't just be there depending on what cycle your on.
Oh but he's a black guy so it must be genetics. And the white guys just train harder.
LMAO.
These guys are all drugs.
They will all lose 50 - 75 pounds of muscle when they stop taking drugs.
Gawd bodybuilding sucks.
given his genetics, he must have spent 12 months in a hospital bed shitting in a bedpan to lose that much muscle.
two sets of "before" pictues...
oh wait....
;D
Train natural. Your physique will be there for you whole life. It won't just be there depending on what cycle your on.
Exactly. Natural gains stay with you for a long time. Look at any guy that works with his hands... Great forearm development, even though half these guys are in their 40s and never touched a drug in their lives. Look at lumpers...huge shoulders. Natural gains don't disappear.
Look at Reg Park and Steeve Reeves.
ok
now what?
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How many stars look bad just 6 months off drugs? Juicers want credit for something they didn't earn. A juicer has temporary muscles. They will rationalize that it isn't true to protect their fragile ego. I live by the beach and every summer I see the new batch of chemical wonders. Everyone including 80 year old grandmas know the truth about these cosmetic chemical muscles in a syringe wonders got there.
I have been around enough to see the same pattern. A college guy juices on and off for years. When most hit their 30's they stop using due to health, financial, or legal reasons. Many threw away their education and career pursuing their drugs. Almost all users eventually start selling. It might be a small amount or large. Have you ever run into a steroid dealer that only dealt in roids? It's only one of their many products. Just like any other drug dealer it's core involves violence when it comes to money. It's sad that this sub culture of a sport attracts so many insecure young men that would sacrifice health to impress fools.
Train natural. Your physique will be there for you whole life. It won't just be there depending on what cycle your on.
Post-hormone tennis-player look. There *are* some guys past & present that are still impressive, then there are the hyper-responders.
Meaning that their size and strength was never dependent on knowing some guy who sold his merchandise out of a van parked at the gym.
was their "natural" physique there for life?
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What makes you think Arnold was a hyper-responder pumpster? ???
Not as much as white supremacists :D
What makes you think Arnold was a hyper-responder pumpster? ???
Isn't a hyper-responder someone who has a not so outstanding physique natural, but can gain extremely quickly and a large amount on a small-medium cycle?
I was around the venice scene when Paul was at his best, he ate hardly anything and his gear use in comparision to guys like Flex was like 50 to 75% less, that is a fact.
the guy has great genetics, dont get me wrong hes a prick who never paid for his stuff from the guys who supplied him but if he trained natural he would still be the freakiest natural out there in that photo he clearly hasnt trained in ages and in a full body shot i would say he would look less fat and would still be 245+
Arnold "off" still had a great body. He didn't look huge or anything, but still you can see he's naturally athletic.
Arnold has good genetics.........and he megadosed over a period of years.On the contrary, he was a hyper-responder to drugs. The doses are a separate issue; the variance in amounts used doesn't negative the fact of being a hyper-responder to drugs. That's aside from the fact that doses weren't an exact science anyway, especially in the 60s. Schwarzenegger might well have grown on half the amounts he used; it's not as if the doses used were arrived at by any logical process.
He wasn't a hyper-responder.
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On the contrary, he was a hyper-responder to drugs. The doses aren't the point and aren't an exact science anyway. Schwarzenegger might well have grown on half the amounts he used; it's not as if the doses used were arrived at by any logical process.
Had most of the gains been natural, more of the size would've been retained off hormones, and the weight swings wouldn't be so drastic. He looked ok without them but the difference was disappointing, as if most of the greatness was unnatural. He looked ok off cycle, as shown in the pic.
As far as athleticism, it was his lack thereof that led him away from soccer; wasn't just an interest in individual sports. There's no sign of any particular talent there, as seen in various news pieces of his lumbering gait as governor. A natural athlete in middle-age would not walk that way sans injuries.
Dillet no doubt had great genetics with or without drugs; to reduce it to drug intake's simplistic.
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He's in his mid 50s and just had heart surgery. ::)
Face it, these guys are all drugs. If they weren't, they wouldn't disolve and lose 50 - 75 pounds of muscle when they retire. There are plenty of people that look like flabby Dillet. I guess he's not that special genetically. If their genetics were so superior they would be making money in pro sports like football, boxing, baseball, etc..
When a lifetime natural who's been training and eating for 15 years suddenly stops, after a while he'll lose all his gains too.
Not NEARLY as fast. Not even close. I know people that trained natural all their lives and they still look built into their 50s.
That's beside the point though...
The point is, a so-called genetic freak is exposed as a chemical monster with average genetics.
Nobody is impressed by that. So what? The guy responds to steroids.
You have no idea if he's a hyper responder or not. He's probably on a ton of stuff when he's preparing for a contest. You have no idea what he takes.
The bottom line is, he looks like crap without drugs. That's always been the point. Without drugs he's nothing.
Nobody is impressed by that. So what? The guy responds to steroids.What's striking is your hate for Dillet and Schwarzenegger ball-worship. An insane dichotomy; they both took the drug cocktails of their day with no reservation.
You have no idea if he's a hyper responder or not. He's probably on a ton of stuff when he's preparing for a contest. You have no idea what he takes.
The bottom line is, he looks like crap without drugs. That's always been the point. Without drugs he's nothing.
On the contrary, he was a hyper-responder to drugs. The doses are a separate issue; the variance in amounts used doesn't negative the fact of being a hyper-responder to drugs. That's aside from the fact that doses weren't an exact science anyway, especially in the 60s. Schwarzenegger might well have grown on half the amounts he used; it's not as if the doses used were arrived at by any logical process.
Had most of the gains been natural, more of the size would've been retained off hormones, and the weight swings wouldn't be so drastic. He looked ok without them but the difference was disappointing, as if most of the greatness was unnatural. He looked ok off cycle, as shown in the pic.
As far as athleticism, it was his lack thereof that led him away from soccer; wasn't just an interest in individual sports. There's no sign of any particular talent there, as seen in various filmed news pieces of his lumbering gait as governor. A natural athlete in middle-age would not walk that way sans injuries.
Dillet no doubt had great genetics with or without drugs; to reduce it to drug intake's simplistic.
I've got more experience dealing with bodybuilders and cycles than you do, lil' pumpster."DIV" with continued imperiousness now resorting to infantile pissing contests in lieu of content. "I have more experience than you" trumps any evidence to back up very general claims that are supposed to be believe "because he says so". hahahahahaahhaah. I'm sure he has much more experience with roids, because he needed them himself more than I ever did.
You stick to bodybuilding threads and I'll stick to AAS.
Arnold was no hyper-responder.
Levrone was a good example of a hyper-responder...
That picture of Arnold at the beach was as an old broken down man, no longer using AAS.
That has nothing to do with the question of how his body reacted to the drugs in his prime.
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If they continue to train naturally, they can keep a good physique for decades. If they do it with drugs, the size plummets, regardless of whatever else they do. Otherwise, the drug taking would be a one-time process.
Arnold "off" still had a great body. He didn't look huge or anything, but still you can see he's naturally athletic.
Arnold looked like shit when he was "off".
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Thank you. This "looked great" crap sounds like "Bluto" worshipping Stallone's balls. Schwarzenegger almost looks feminine without hormones, it's disturbing.
yeah that is true if they continue to train but he said a natural physique is forever
if you don't continue to train or eat a high protein diet you will shrink back to your normal size, natural or not
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You don't think he looks better than guys like Tom Prince of Levrone when he off? or at least just as good?They all look healthy, it's the best way to look from a health point of view, whereas from a fan's perspective it's sad to see muscle disappear to the point that it looks like another person.
They all look healthy, it's the best way to look from a health point of view, whereas from a fan's perspective it's sad to see muscle disappear to the point that it looks like another person.
Well thats true but no one can stay that big forever , everyone has to come back at some time.Not to retain at least some of the size looks odd to begin with; the weight loss is usually extreme. On top of that, possibly due to imbalances caused by long-term hormone use & estrogen rebalancing, some seem to lose a degree of masculine qualities.
Aside from the horrible bod in a pic taken when he was only in his early 50s, that stance in the "now" pic is an example of the ackward slightly lumbering gait. Nothing to do with a natural athlete. ;)Arnold is a sixty year old man who has already had a stellar bbdg career not to mention movie star and governer. You cannot compare Dillet to Arnold. What is Dillets excuse???
Arnold looked like shit when he was "off".
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if thats 'shit' then dear got i wouldnt mind stepping in it and having some rub off onto me
you're a tard! hooray!