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Title: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 31, 2007, 10:20:31 AM
How can one become an IFBB judge?  What is the process?

I would like to become one and is this possible?   I will help Bodybuilding.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Blockhead on January 31, 2007, 10:26:26 AM
 I spoke to one before and I also know 2 national level judge who did the USA's and Nationals in Miami.

  It takes a long time unless you are in real real good w/ Manion. Otherwise how he did it was he was a competitor FIRST then got involved after many years with 'production/organization' of the shows...then being very involved w/ the circles moved on to judging local shows...then more local shows...then state-level shows...then a JrNationals...then a JrUSA's...and it escalates.

 It's all about putting in time, politics, networking and being heavily involved.

 Most judges are NPC show promoters. They all usually hold/host their own shows.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 31, 2007, 10:28:05 AM
I spoke to one before and I also know 2 national level judge who did the USA's and Nationals in Miami.

  It takes a long time unless you are in real real good w/ Manion. Otherwise how he did it was he was a competitor FIRST then got involved after many years with 'production/organization' of the shows...then being very involved w/ the circles moved on to judging local shows...then more local shows...then state-level shows...then a JrNationals...then a JrUSA's...and it escalates.

 It's all about putting in time, politics, networking and being heavily involved.

 Most judges are NPC show promoters. They all usually hold/host their own shows.

That doesn`t make sense at all.

So there are no real rules?
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Mydavid on January 31, 2007, 10:28:18 AM
You definately DO NOT have to look like a bodybuilder to be a judge...at least that's the way it looks here in Southern Cal.

Lisa
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Fury on January 31, 2007, 10:28:41 AM
Just have an eye for picking the physique with the biggest GH Gut and boom, you're already in.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Mydavid on January 31, 2007, 10:29:49 AM
That doesn`t make sense at all.

So there are no real rules?

No, blockhead is right...there are no rules or certifications....it's mostly a who you know and who you ****!!!

Lisa
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 31, 2007, 10:31:40 AM
So who do I contact about becoming a judge?

I wll start a petition if I have to.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: ripitupbaby on January 31, 2007, 10:34:41 AM
It's not that hard to get into judging at the local/regional level.  
You need to talk to a show promoter and ask to test judge.  Then you should ideally have your scoring evaluated before you can be "OK'ed" to judge.  But there's no official test or certification as far as I know.

From there, I assume you'd have to work it pretty hard for a while to get up to the national and IFBB level.

Find NPC show promoters in your area and ask about test judging at the next show and judging future shows.  Usually local promoters are looking for people to help them out with the shows.

You should do it. 
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Saxon on January 31, 2007, 10:41:06 AM
You'll have to follow the Pro league code of ethic

We, the Pro League Judges, realizing that our actions and decisions as judges
reflect on the good name of the sport of bodybuilding, fitness and figure, and
realizing the responsibility thereby placed upon us, pledge ourselves:
1. To apply honestly, impartially, and objectively all of the rules governing
competitions.
2. To safeguard the interests of all competitors on equal terms.
3. To cooperate in providing the best possible conditions for the benefit of the
Athletes, Judges and Officials.
4. To respect the feelings and competitive drive of the Athletes, and to make
reasonable allowances for their heightened emotions in the heat of
competition.
5. To respect the Constitution and Pro Rules and the requirements of an
effective administration and to cooperate willingly and promptly with the
officially elected or appointed Officials in the carrying out of their duties
and responsibilities.
6. To cooperate with the Promoters of the competitions by rendering decisions
clearly and promptly, and in accordance with the requirements of the
competition or judging procedures.
7. To refrain from attempting to influence the decisions of other Judges or
Officials, and to respect their individual opinions and decisions.
8. To assist the Pro League in the promotion of bodybuilding, fitness and
figure by acting as a goodwill ambassador of the sport, promoting the sport
in a positive manner, and protecting the good image and integrity of the
sport and the Pro League.
9. To work for the Pro League, not against it, in promoting its values, morals
and ethics.
10. To exercise our right of protest in a courteous, respectful manner, following
the proper chain of command.
11. To refrain from malicious gossip and rumour-mongering.
12. To refrain from personal attacks against any other Member of the Pro
League, or against the Pro League itself.
13. To honour the special trust conferred upon us by our selection as Judges,
and to adhere to the standards of personal conduct expected of us.
14. To cooperate with the Athletes, Judges and Officials in the development of
high standards, both moral and physical, for the sport of bodybuilding,
fitness and figure and in the progressive furtherance of the objects of the
Pro League.
15. To oppose the use of banned substances and methods.
16. To refrain from any conduct that may be considered prejudicial.
17. To conduct ourselves at all times in a manner that reflects positively upon
the image of the sport of bodybuilding, fitness and figure, and the Pro
League.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Blockhead on January 31, 2007, 10:43:39 AM
It's not that hard to get into judging at the local/regional level.  
You need to talk to a show promoter and ask to test judge.  Then you should ideally have your scoring evaluated before you can be "OK'ed" to judge.  But there's no official test or certification as far as I know.

From there, I assume you'd have to work it pretty hard for a while to get up to the national and IFBB level.

Find NPC show promoters in your area and ask about test judging at the next show and judging future shows.  Usually local promoters are looking for people to help them out with the shows.

You should do it. 

Yup.

 Still. Politics and 'who you know' play a big role.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 31, 2007, 10:45:42 AM
It's not that hard to get into judging at the local/regional level.  
You need to talk to a show promoter and ask to test judge.  Then you should ideally have your scoring evaluated before you can be "OK'ed" to judge.  But there's no official test or certification as far as I know.

From there, I assume you'd have to work it pretty hard for a while to get up to the national and IFBB level.

Find NPC show promoters in your area and ask about test judging at the next show and judging future shows.  Usually local promoters are looking for people to help them out with the shows.

You should do it. 


That is just ridiculous.

Blockhead,

Can you get me the number to the IFBB?

I will call and call until I get a real answer.  I want to see what excuses they have.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Saxon on January 31, 2007, 10:47:38 AM
That is just ridiculous.

Blockhead,

Can you get me the number to the IFBB?

I will call and call until I get a real answer.  I want to see what excuses they have.

    

 

Jim Manion
Chairman
IFBB Professional League
P.O. Box 3224
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
USA 15230

Toll Free: 1-866-304-4322
Tel: (412) 276-5027
Fax: (412) 281-0470
E-mail: ifbbproleague@aol.com
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: ripitupbaby on January 31, 2007, 10:49:37 AM
Um Yeah...good luck with that!
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Blockhead on January 31, 2007, 10:50:38 AM
   

 

Jim Manion
Chairman
IFBB Professional League
P.O. Box 3224
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
USA 15230

Toll Free: 1-866-304-4322
Tel: (412) 276-5027
Fax: (412) 281-0470
E-mail: ifbbproleague@aol.com
He beat me to it. I was going to say that Jim Manion would be basically the only one to speak to directly about this.

 Seriously. If you call him and hit him with the questions point-blank...which, something tells me your crazy ass WILL, fkn POST the whole conversation. I would love to see how it pans out.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 31, 2007, 10:51:21 AM
You'll have to follow the Pro league code of ethic

We, the Pro League Judges, realizing that our actions and decisions as judges
reflect on the good name of the sport of bodybuilding, fitness and figure, and
realizing the responsibility thereby placed upon us, pledge ourselves:
1. To apply honestly, impartially, and objectively all of the rules governing
competitions.
2. To safeguard the interests of all competitors on equal terms.
3. To cooperate in providing the best possible conditions for the benefit of the
Athletes, Judges and Officials.
4. To respect the feelings and competitive drive of the Athletes, and to make
reasonable allowances for their heightened emotions in the heat of
competition.
5. To respect the Constitution and Pro Rules and the requirements of an
effective administration and to cooperate willingly and promptly with the
officially elected or appointed Officials in the carrying out of their duties
and responsibilities.
6. To cooperate with the Promoters of the competitions by rendering decisions
clearly and promptly, and in accordance with the requirements of the
competition or judging procedures.
7. To refrain from attempting to influence the decisions of other Judges or
Officials, and to respect their individual opinions and decisions.
8. To assist the Pro League in the promotion of bodybuilding, fitness and
figure by acting as a goodwill ambassador of the sport, promoting the sport
in a positive manner, and protecting the good image and integrity of the
sport and the Pro League.
9. To work for the Pro League, not against it, in promoting its values, morals
and ethics.
10. To exercise our right of protest in a courteous, respectful manner, following
the proper chain of command.
11. To refrain from malicious gossip and rumour-mongering.
12. To refrain from personal attacks against any other Member of the Pro
League, or against the Pro League itself.
13. To honour the special trust conferred upon us by our selection as Judges,
and to adhere to the standards of personal conduct expected of us.
14. To cooperate with the Athletes, Judges and Officials in the development of
high standards, both moral and physical, for the sport of bodybuilding,
fitness and figure and in the progressive furtherance of the objects of the
Pro League.
15. To oppose the use of banned substances and methods.
16. To refrain from any conduct that may be considered prejudicial.
17. To conduct ourselves at all times in a manner that reflects positively upon
the image of the sport of bodybuilding, fitness and figure, and the Pro
League.

ROFLMAO.

Do they even believe their own bullshit?
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Saxon on January 31, 2007, 10:53:43 AM
Do you have a Navy Blazer???

The official uniform for all male judges at Pro League competitions is as follows: Navy blue blazer with Pro League crest on left breast [pocket], grey dress pants with black belt, white or light blue dress shirt, Pro League tie, black socks and black dress shoes.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Saxon on January 31, 2007, 10:56:00 AM
ROFLMAO.

Do they even believe their own bullshit?

No, because if they did Ronnie Coleman, King Kamali, Vic Martinez, the guy who is famous because he married Bev Francis, would all have been suspended according to their rules.  They only suspend independent contractors who try and earn money from using their physiques  ::)
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: the shadow on January 31, 2007, 10:57:59 AM
How can one become an IFBB judge?  What is the process?

I would like to become one and is this possible?   I will help Bodybuilding.
if this happens bodybuilding is gonna be doomed.its gonna be a catastrophy if you became a judge
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: ripitupbaby on January 31, 2007, 11:09:37 AM
if this happens bodybuilding is gonna be doomed.its gonna be a catastrophy if you became a judge

I disagree.  I think TA would be an interesting addition to the judging panel.

 :P
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 31, 2007, 11:12:34 AM
He beat me to it. I was going to say that Jim Manion would be basically the only one to speak to directly about this.

 Seriously. If you call him and hit him with the questions point-blank...which, something tells me your crazy ass WILL, fkn POST the whole conversation. I would love to see how it pans out.

I will record it for sure.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Buttsuck on January 31, 2007, 12:56:40 PM
How can one become an IFBB judge?  What is the process?

I would like to become one and is this possible?   I will help Bodybuilding.
Excellent!
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Buttsuck on January 31, 2007, 01:01:20 PM
if this happens bodybuilding is gonna be doomed.its gonna be a catastrophy if you became a judge
What do you know.. you wipe your ass with your hand... RRRRRRDUD UDDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDU!!!
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: columbusdude82 on January 31, 2007, 01:20:55 PM
I heard that Derek Anthony asked to become a NPC judge... He said he would like to hold a special "prejudging" in his "Dungeon" (aka his trailer) for all the male competitors he fancies, and will assign his scores based on that...

When asked if he wanted to judge female contestants as well, Derek spat out his "sponsor's" cock, laughed out loud saying "Forget bout that tuna, just gimme some sausage"...

True story...
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: tweeter on January 31, 2007, 01:28:09 PM
Adonis, if you had been a judge at the 07 Olympia what would your top 3 have been?
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 31, 2007, 01:44:01 PM
Adonis, if you had been a judge at the 07 Olympia what would your top 3 have been?

I would sadly have to disqualify all of them for Violations:
 Update #1]
IFBB President Ben Weider took the first step in a renewed fight against doping by officially signing the WADA Code Acceptance Form on November 12, 2003. In so doing, the IFBB became a Signatory to the WADA Code.

[Update #2]
From April 2004 to January 2005, the IFBB worked closely with WADA in order to conform the IFBB Anti-Doping Program to the provisions of the WADA Code. On January 26, 2005, WADA stated in part, " ... the rules as presented to us implement the Code as such for your amateur division ..." Thus, the next step in the process of full implementation of the WADA Code is complete.

[Update #3]
On November 27, 2005, at its annual general meeting in Shanghai, China, the IFBB Executive Council and IFBB International Congress amended the IFBB Constitution by inserting a new Article 22 on Doping:

22.1 Position Statement: The practice of sport involves physical health and fitness, dedication to training, and proper nutrition. Doping, which includes the use of Prohibited Substances and Prohibited Methods to artificially enhance performance, is unethical, contrary to the concept of fair play, undermines the values of sport, and can endanger the health of the athletes. The practice of doping is forbidden within the IFBB.

22.2 World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) Code: The IFBB officially recognizes the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) as the international authority in anti-doping matters. The IFBB is an official Signatory to the WADA Code and, by means of the IFBB Anti-Doping Rules, conforms to the provisions of the WADA Code.

22.3 Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS): The IFBB officially recognizes the authority of the International Council of Arbitration for Sport (ICAS) and the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).

Further, at this same meeting, the IFB Executive Council and IFBB International Congress adopted new IFBB Anti-Doping Rules and agreed to implement a new In- and Out-of-Competition doping control program as follows:

PROPOSITION #3 (Adopted)
Be it resolved that, in keeping with the decision made by the IFBB Executive Council on November 6, 2003, and by the IFBB Congress on November 9, 2003, in Mumbai, India; said decision which stated:

”Be it resolved that the IFBB shall take steps to adopt the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) Code. Further, once the WADA Code is formally adopted, the IFBB shall take whatever measures are necessary to ensure that its anti-doping program is in full compliance with the Code.”

the IFBB adopt the new IFBB Anti-Doping Rules, Version 1.0, and further, that said rules shall have force and effect as of January 1, 2006. *these Anti-Doping Rules are based on the WADA “Models of Best Practice” and are intended to replace the current IFBB Anti-Doping Program.

PROPOSITION #4 (Adopted)
Be it resolved that In-Competition testing be carried out as follows:

1. RANDOM:
A number of athletes selected at random during the Competition e.g. at Weigh-in.
2. WEIGHTED:
A number of athletes selected at random from among the Top Finalists e.g. at the Finals.

*Note: The IFBB reserves the right to conduct Target Testing

PROPOSITION #5 (Adopted)

Be in resolved that Out-of-Competition testing be carried out in 2007 from a Registered Athlete Testing Pool, said Pool which shall be established in 2006 from among the Top Finalists at all IFBB World Championships.

[Update #4]
On April 1, 2006, IFBB Anti-Doping Directive 2006-001 takes effect; the directive provides comprehensive guidelines on Result Management, Hearings and Appeals.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Special Ed on January 31, 2007, 01:56:36 PM
TA,

Becoming an IFBB Judge is a Members Only position. First you must find a sponsor -- that is, a current judge or powerful promoter who will "vouch" for you. Then you have to make the obligatory honorarium donation to King James Manion, so he knows you're serious. Then you are told to pay your expenses to a small NPC show and act as a 'test judge'. Your test judging is graded by the promoter and if you fail to adjudge the promoter's competitor pals 1st in all categories, you fail. If you correctly place the promoter's pals 1st regardless of their appearance, then you are given the opportunity to pay your expenses and act as a real judge in a small local show. As long as you ignore independent thinking and reward the promoter's pals, you will advance through the years up to the national level, whereupon all of your years of blind compliance to the rules will finally result in you getting paid $100 to judge the Nationals. Congratulations, you're almost there. Now, all you have to do is wait for one of the IFBB judges to die and hope that all your years of dishonesty, lack of integrity, and asskissing will finally get you your shot at judging the New YorK Pro. But be careful what you wish for. Steve and Bev will sit on each side of you, correcting your scoresheet throughout the pre-judging, and eliminating any chance that their handpicked selections will be subverted. Better yet, don't even bother looking up at the competitors and just copy Steve's scoresheet. That should ingratiate you sufficiently to earn you a spot on the 2015 Olympia Judging Panel, where you can finally impose your will and award Stan McQuay 1st place. Unfortunately, with the high and low being dropped, your impact on the contest is negligible and to no one's surprise, Cutler wins his 10th straight Olympia. After the contest, you are told your services as a judge will no longer be needed ever again. Thanks for playing.

Special "Just the Facts" Ed
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Lee_a_priest on January 31, 2007, 02:27:56 PM
You'll have to follow the Pro league code of ethic

We, the Pro League Judges, realizing that our actions and decisions as judges
reflect on the good name of the sport of bodybuilding, fitness and figure, and
realizing the responsibility thereby placed upon us, pledge ourselves:
1. To apply honestly, impartially, and objectively all of the rules governing
competitions.
2. To safeguard the interests of all competitors on equal terms.
3. To cooperate in providing the best possible conditions for the benefit of the
Athletes, Judges and Officials.
4. To respect the feelings and competitive drive of the Athletes, and to make
reasonable allowances for their heightened emotions in the heat of
competition.
5. To respect the Constitution and Pro Rules and the requirements of an
effective administration and to cooperate willingly and promptly with the
officially elected or appointed Officials in the carrying out of their duties
and responsibilities.
6. To cooperate with the Promoters of the competitions by rendering decisions
clearly and promptly, and in accordance with the requirements of the
competition or judging procedures.
7. To refrain from attempting to influence the decisions of other Judges or
Officials, and to respect their individual opinions and decisions.
8. To assist the Pro League in the promotion of bodybuilding, fitness and
figure by acting as a goodwill ambassador of the sport, promoting the sport
in a positive manner, and protecting the good image and integrity of the
sport and the Pro League.
9. To work for the Pro League, not against it, in promoting its values, morals
and ethics.
10. To exercise our right of protest in a courteous, respectful manner, following
the proper chain of command.
11. To refrain from malicious gossip and rumour-mongering.
12. To refrain from personal attacks against any other Member of the Pro
League, or against the Pro League itself.
13. To honour the special trust conferred upon us by our selection as Judges,
and to adhere to the standards of personal conduct expected of us.
14. To cooperate with the Athletes, Judges and Officials in the development of
high standards, both moral and physical, for the sport of bodybuilding,
fitness and figure and in the progressive furtherance of the objects of the
Pro League.
15. To oppose the use of banned substances and methods.
16. To refrain from any conduct that may be considered prejudicial.
17. To conduct ourselves at all times in a manner that reflects positively upon
the image of the sport of bodybuilding, fitness and figure, and the Pro
League.

YEAH THEY ALL FOLLOW THAT...WHAT A FUCKIN JOKE AND I GET SUSPENDED GO FIGURE...WHAT A SPORT :)
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 31, 2007, 02:29:34 PM
YEAH THEY ALL FOLLOW THAT...WHAT A FUCKIN JOKE AND I GET SUSPENDED GO FIGURE...WHAT A SPORT :)

Lee, Would you be willing to sign on online petition for me to be a judge?
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 31, 2007, 02:31:13 PM
TA,

Becoming an IFBB Judge is a Members Only position. First you must find a sponsor -- that is, a current judge or powerful promoter who will "vouch" for you. Then you have to make the obligatory honorarium donation to King James Manion, so he knows you're serious. Then you are told to pay your expenses to a small NPC show and act as a 'test judge'. Your test judging is graded by the promoter and if you fail to adjudge the promoter's competitor pals 1st in all categories, you fail. If you correctly place the promoter's pals 1st regardless of their appearance, then you are given the opportunity to pay your expenses and act as a real judge in a small local show. As long as you ignore independent thinking and reward the promoter's pals, you will advance through the years up to the national level, whereupon all of your years of blind compliance to the rules will finally result in you getting paid $100 to judge the Nationals. Congratulations, you're almost there. Now, all you have to do is wait for one of the IFBB judges to die and hope that all your years of dishonesty, lack of integrity, and asskissing will finally get you your shot at judging the New YorK Pro. But be careful what you wish for. Steve and Bev will sit on each side of you, correcting your scoresheet throughout the pre-judging, and eliminating any chance that their handpicked selections will be subverted. Better yet, don't even bother looking up at the competitors and just copy Steve's scoresheet. That should ingratiate you sufficiently to earn you a spot on the 2015 Olympia Judging Panel, where you can finally impose your will and award Stan McQuay 1st place. Unfortunately, with the high and low being dropped, your impact on the contest is negligible and to no one's surprise, Cutler wins his 10th straight Olympia. After the contest, you are told your services as a judge will no longer be needed ever again. Thanks for playing.

Special "Just the Facts" Ed

Brutal truth.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Lee_a_priest on January 31, 2007, 02:33:16 PM
Lee, Would you be willing to sign on online petition for me to be a judge?

YEAH
 WHY NOT  ;D
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: The True Adonis on February 01, 2007, 11:53:32 AM
YEAH
 WHY NOT  ;D

Ok good.

I am going to make a thread soon and I want everyone who would like to see me as a judge, sign it.

I want as many people in the industry as possible to sign it as well.

Thank you for your backing Lee.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Rimbaud on February 01, 2007, 12:18:28 PM
I will help Bodybuilding.

How so? Serious question...I'm not fucking with you.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Andre Nickatina on February 01, 2007, 01:07:29 PM
Ok good.

I am going to make a thread soon and I want everyone who would like to see me as a judge, sign it.

I want as many people in the industry as possible to sign it as well.

Thank you for your backing Lee.
You'll never make it.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Option D on February 01, 2007, 01:11:41 PM
So who do I contact about becoming a judge?

I wll start a petition if I have to.

Seriously go for it TA...Clean up bodybuilding....so for starters who would you have winning the O this year...
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: The True Adonis on February 01, 2007, 01:23:46 PM
Seriously go for it TA...Clean up bodybuilding....so for starters who would you have winning the O this year...

Well, if I were to follow the IFBB RULES laid out before me, Sadly I would have to pick someone in the audience I guess since all the competitors grossly did not follow the rules.

I am serious about this judging thing.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Option D on February 01, 2007, 01:25:45 PM
Well, if I were to follow the IFBB RULES laid out before me, Sadly I would have to pick someone in the audience I guess since all the competitors grossly did not follow the rules.

I am serious about this judging thing.

No but im serious...from the people who competed who would you have picked....because seriously if i went off what bodybuilding means to me it would be Melvin Anthony....
and i ment last years.. O my bad
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: columbusdude82 on February 01, 2007, 02:17:14 PM
Well, if I were to follow the IFBB RULES laid out before me, Sadly I would have to pick someone in the audience I guess since all the competitors grossly did not follow the rules.

I am serious about this judging thing.

Just as you were serious about fighting Derek Anthony?!
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: MCWAY on February 01, 2007, 03:30:39 PM
Seriously go for it TA...Clean up bodybuilding....so for starters who would you have winning the O this year...

The biggest, most ripped, symmetrical, and proportionate competitor..........who claims he got in that condition eating only 25 grams of protein per day!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Patrik15 on February 01, 2007, 03:35:28 PM
haha keep dreaming adonis





Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: AVBG on February 01, 2007, 03:38:24 PM
Hell, I'll even vote for you.

Vote Mysone/Lawence!
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Chick on February 01, 2007, 05:02:41 PM
"Petition'?

A petition is a waste of time and meaningless, who you going to give your petition to? Jim? Raphael? LOL.....

If you (or anyone) really wanted to become an IFBB judge, it's a fairly simple procedure...you start by judging local NPC shows as a test judge, work up to a judge, start judging regional, then National, then IFBB...not much different than what the competitors do.

It's a labor of love, not much money involved...
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: tweeter on February 01, 2007, 05:08:34 PM
"Petition'?

A petition is a waste of time and meaningless, who you going to give your petition to? Jim? Raphael? LOL.....

If you (or anyone) really wanted to become an IFBB judge, it's a fairly simple procedure...you start by judging local NPC shows as a test judge, work up to a judge, start judging regional, then National, then IFBB...not much different than what the competitors do.

It's a labor of love, not much money involved...
Do you have any aspirations of one day being a judge?
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Chick on February 01, 2007, 05:14:54 PM
none...
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: tom joad on February 01, 2007, 05:21:20 PM
"Petition'?

A petition is a waste of time and meaningless, who you going to give your petition to? Jim? Raphael? LOL.....

If you (or anyone) really wanted to become an IFBB judge, it's a fairly simple procedure...you start by judging local NPC shows as a test judge, work up to a judge, start judging regional, then National, then IFBB...not much different than what the competitors do.

It's a labor of love, not much money involved...

Just like how Special Ed explained?
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: GHGut on February 01, 2007, 05:37:35 PM
Instead of getting in good with the powers-that-be and paying your dues, here's a shortcut.

Step 1: Buy yourself a blue blazer.

Step 2: Show up at a pro show and walk up to the judging area as if you belong there.

Step 3: Act like you're speaking a foreign language. Someone will assume you're one of the European judges and find you a seat.

You're in.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2007, 05:50:47 PM
How can one become an IFBB judge?  What is the process?

I would like to become one and is this possible?   I will help Bodybuilding.

  You need to first know show promoters. Then, you need to have contributed to the sport somehow. Then, you'll get to judge your first local amateur contest. After a few local shows, you might eventually judge a regional show. After a few dozen regional shows, and if the other more senior judges believe that you have consistentrly itnerpreted the judging protocol correctly, you might get a mention to the NPC.

  This will be your ticket to start judging state amateur championships. Afetr you have judged a few dozen one at this level, you might get a promotion to judge the NPC Nationals. If Ben Weider believes that you have enough experience, you might become an I.F.B.B judge. Don't get your hopes high, though, as few make it to this level.

  As for judging top pro shows, like the Arnold and especially the Olympia, it is very hard to get there. You'll need ten years at the amateur level and another ten at the pro to even be considered as an Olympia judge. The "less" experienced Olympia judges have 20 years of judging experience; Rockell, the head judge, has 35 and has judged over 600 amateur and pro shows! :o Remember that the Olympia judges make the single most important decision in bodybuilding: who becomes the standard-bearer. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: AVBG on February 01, 2007, 06:00:03 PM
Instead of getting in good with the powers-that-be and paying your dues, here's a shortcut.

Step 1: Buy yourself a blue blazer.

Step 2: Show up at a pro show and walk up to the judging area as if you belong there.

Step 3: Act like you're speaking a foreign language. Someone will assume you're one of the European judges and find you a seat.

You're in.


I might just try that!

CATCH ME IF YOU CAN!
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: The True Adonis on February 01, 2007, 06:09:32 PM
"Petition'?

A petition is a waste of time and meaningless, who you going to give your petition to? Jim? Raphael? LOL.....

If you (or anyone) really wanted to become an IFBB judge, it's a fairly simple procedure...you start by judging local NPC shows as a test judge, work up to a judge, start judging regional, then National, then IFBB...not much different than what the competitors do.

It's a labor of love, not much money involved...

Can you please provide me with the EXACT procedure?

Does the IFBB have a procedure?  Who can I contact to find out if you don`t know the EXACT regulations?

Thanks!!! 
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: stuntmovie on February 01, 2007, 07:12:12 PM
TA, Chick explained it pretty well but let me make it even easier for ya.

This is based on experience and not on any written rules or guidelines published by the NPC or the IFBB.

First of all you got to find out who your regional NPC rep is. If you don't know who that is, maybe Chick can let you know and even provide a contact phone number.

Then call the regional NPC rep and let him know that you are interested in "Test Judging" at one of the NPC contests in your area.

He will most likely ask you for your "qualifications" such as :

Do you compete or have you competed in the past?
Do you attend the contests on a frequent basis?
Why do you want to judge?
Why do you think you are "worthy" of test judging?
Etc., etc.

Most likely if you have never been associated with the "sport" in some capacity, he will ask you to get involved and come back next year.

There are a lot of people who want to judge these contests in an official capacity but know absolutely nothing about bodybuilding. I have run into many such individuals over the course of many years.

And if it is your intention to purely be a pain in the ass, you will most likely be denied the opportunity to sit in as a Test Judge.

But if you are serious and genuinely interested you'll most likely find yourself seated with a few other Test Judges directly behind the official judging table with pencil and paper in your hand; ready, willing and able to proceed to prove yourself.

You will be given a short explanation of how to proceed with an official score sheet and then left on your own to rank the contestants as you see fit.

Once the prejudging is complete, your score sheets will be collected and graded via a rather complicated but intelligent gradeing system.

This is the point where most test judges throw up ther hands and are never seen again, but if you continue to pass over a three-contest time frame (that varies) and continue to be genuinely interested and act in a professional manner; your name will be added to the local NPC list of qualified judges and you will be considered to participate as an official judge according to the needs of the local promoter and the local NPC rep.

If you prove to be a worthwhile NPC judging official and want to become an IFBB judge, you wil go through somewhat the same procedures within the IFBB.

It doth appear to me that you want to make "changes" that are beyond the capabilities of any individual on any judging panel. The changes you may be wanting to make appear to be changes that can only be made at and by the National NPC Office.

I recommend that you change your mind about becoming an NPC/IFBB Judge and run for the office of NPC President instead.  That is where the real changes are made.

Good luck, TA.


Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 01, 2007, 07:42:55 PM
better to become an AKC dog show judge, The Westminster is soon, judges stay at the Waldorf Astoria, the compensation is excellent and they get all sorts of bribes from trainers, breeders and promoters.  oh, and at christmas...all the gifts are from Hermes, Gucci and Vuitton.  And for fun guest judge the best in show for the Bovine contest at the county fair.

ps.  added bonus, you get to know all the veterinary medical doctors for all the goodies.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Disgusted on February 01, 2007, 07:57:33 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: The True Adonis on February 02, 2007, 12:26:37 AM
TA, Chick explained it pretty well but let me make it even easier for ya.

This is based on experience and not on any written rules or guidelines published by the NPC or the IFBB.

First of all you got to find out who your regional NPC rep is. If you don't know who that is, maybe Chick can let you know and even provide a contact phone number.

Then call the regional NPC rep and let him know that you are interested in "Test Judging" at one of the NPC contests in your area.

He will most likely ask you for your "qualifications" such as :

Do you compete or have you competed in the past?
Do you attend the contests on a frequent basis?
Why do you want to judge?
Why do you think you are "worthy" of test judging?
Etc., etc.

Most likely if you have never been associated with the "sport" in some capacity, he will ask you to get involved and come back next year.

There are a lot of people who want to judge these contests in an official capacity but know absolutely nothing about bodybuilding. I have run into many such individuals over the course of many years.

And if it is your intention to purely be a pain in the ass, you will most likely be denied the opportunity to sit in as a Test Judge.

But if you are serious and genuinely interested you'll most likely find yourself seated with a few other Test Judges directly behind the official judging table with pencil and paper in your hand; ready, willing and able to proceed to prove yourself.

You will be given a short explanation of how to proceed with an official score sheet and then left on your own to rank the contestants as you see fit.

Once the prejudging is complete, your score sheets will be collected and graded via a rather complicated but intelligent gradeing system.

This is the point where most test judges throw up ther hands and are never seen again, but if you continue to pass over a three-contest time frame (that varies) and continue to be genuinely interested and act in a professional manner; your name will be added to the local NPC list of qualified judges and you will be considered to participate as an official judge according to the needs of the local promoter and the local NPC rep.

If you prove to be a worthwhile NPC judging official and want to become an IFBB judge, you wil go through somewhat the same procedures within the IFBB.

It doth appear to me that you want to make "changes" that are beyond the capabilities of any individual on any judging panel. The changes you may be wanting to make appear to be changes that can only be made at and by the National NPC Office.

I recommend that you change your mind about becoming an NPC/IFBB Judge and run for the office of NPC President instead.  That is where the real changes are made.

Good luck, TA.




Thank you so much for the response.  I am making a list of contacts from the information given thus far.

What is the election process for The President of the NPC and where can I read about this?

That sounds like an even better alternative.
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Tre on February 02, 2007, 01:45:37 PM

The IFBB needs and wants more judges.  Do you think that the current group of pro judges (I don't know the exact number, but there are a lot fewer than people think) wants to have to judge so many events a year?  I don't know how many of you travel by air on a frequent basis, but it's a real pain in the butt.  In addition to travel hassles, there's also the time away from their lives and families.  Sure, they are virtual gods at the events, but at what cost?  It's not that they don't love what they do - they do, but the hours are long, and the tangible rewards aren't that great.  And then on top of that, no matter what they do, there are thousands of attacks about what a crap job they did at such-n-such show.  I'm not blameless in this - over the last decade, I've given them plenty of criticism...but tried to offer a fair amount of praise as well, because I don't envy their jobs one bit.   

Like Chick said, these men and women do it purely for the love of bodybuilding. 







Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: Special Ed on February 02, 2007, 03:21:32 PM
Now that I think about it, I'm considering becoming a fitness/figure judge. Because to make up for the lack of pay, banging a few fitness chicks might make it worth it.

Odds of a fitness judge banging a fitness chick at a fitness show: 1:1

Those are odds I can deal with.

Special "Pot Odds" Ed
Title: Re: HOW does one become an IFBB judge?
Post by: OneBigMan on February 05, 2007, 02:12:18 PM
Now that I think about it, I'm considering becoming a fitness/figure judge. Because to make up for the lack of pay, banging a few fitness chicks might make it worth it.

Odds of a fitness judge banging a fitness chick at a fitness show: 1:1

Those are odds I can deal with.

Special "Pot Odds" Ed

This entry should have been deleted after it was posted on Friday because that kind of gossip is how rumors start BEHIND CLOSED DOORS about who did what it took to gain a competitive edge and basically what was done voluntarily during a short lived liberal lifetime.