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oh brother, they've got a training article this month with Marius Pudzianowski and they've got a picture of him incline pressing 585, squatting 765 and shoulder pressing 405 ::) what do you guys think?
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hahahahah, I'm surprised they didnt blow up his squatting numbers proportionately. That would put his squat in the upper 900's ;D
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Well, he is a multi-time winner of the world's strongest man competition... I guess it's "possible", but I doubt he would train like that every day...
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hahahahah, I'm surprised they didnt blow up his squatting numbers proportionately. That would put his squat in the upper 900's ;D
hahahaha, the funny thing is that the pictures were from the same "gym" that the infamous Art Atwood 585 incline and Mark Dugdale 495 incline pics were taken and a with the same "plates" no less. ::)
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Well, he is a multi-time winner of the world's strongest man competition... I guess it's "possible", but I doubt he would train like that every day...
i would believe the 765 squat but not the 585 incline or the 405 standing press.
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oh brother, they've got a training article this month with Marius Pudzianowski and they've got a picture of him incline pressing 585, squatting 765 and shoulder pressing 405 ::) what do you guys think?
I would believe t he Squat and shoulder press....that is, if the shoulder press are like the ones he did on the fit show. The incline press is bogus.
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I dunno... those stones get very big that they are picking up and they have no handles... they are very heavy.
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I would believe t he Squat and shoulder press....that is, if the shoulder press are like the ones he did on the fit show. The incline press is bogus.
yeah maybe if he push pressed it but there's no way he strictly pressed it, especially standing.
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How much did he squat in the fit show? It was a pretty good lift if i remember correctly.
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Ive been at a couple photo shoots, and they had some 35's and 45's that looked very solid but were fake.
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Ive been at a couple photo shoots, and they had some 35's and 45's that looked very solid but were fake.
Epic styrofoam iron!!!
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Mariusz squat is very strong, the 765 would be no problem at all for him. The bench and the shoulder press arent even close, although he was benching 350 at 16. By his own admission his best lifes are:
Bench Press 605lbs
Squat 800lbs
Deadlift 870lbs
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i would believe the 765 squat but not the 585 incline or the 405 standing press.
There is video of him doing the 405 standing press.
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There is video of him doing the 405 standing press.
push press not strict press.
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push press not strict press.
Yeah you would know how to push under a guy's press fag.
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Yeah you would know how to push under a guy's press fag.
what do you think of my personal text "big guy"?
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looks lagit to me
http://forum.athletes.com/fitshow/week27/week27lg.html
http://forum.athletes.com/fitshow/week28/week28lg.htm
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i once saw marius bench 650 pounds for reps then just turn around like nothing and begin repping it out for 21's. he said all the taking off of the plates and such wear him down so he uses the 650 principle. were everylift is 650. kickbacks are tricky
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Even if he really could do those lifts they still use the fake plates in the photo shoots.
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Even if he really could do those lifts they still use the fake plates in the photo shoots.
I heard Jean Pierre Fux say the same thing the other day
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I heard Jean Pierre Fux say the same thing the other day
I garuntee he wasnt even using as much weight as they say. My friend used to train at Golds Venice and he watched them shoot the photos for Ed Coans article in M&F. He said they had like 700 pounds on the bar and then some fake plates on the ends and just had him do a walkout with the weight and snap the photos real quick. It actually doesnt even make sense to use real weights when doing a photo shoot for a Gay porn mag like Flex anyway.
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i have seen a clip of him somewhere on the web... standing pressing 405..... for reps easily
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i once saw marius bench 650 pounds for reps then just turn around like nothing and begin repping it out for 21's. he said all the taking off of the plates and such wear him down so he uses the 650 principle. were everylift is 650. kickbacks are tricky
lol
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i have seen a clip of him somewhere on the web... standing pressing 405..... for reps easily
push pressing, push pressing not strict pressing.
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no not strict... he was doing it behind the neck... bouncing it off his traps...
impressive strength
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no not strict... he was doing it behind the neck... bouncing it off his traps...
impressive strength
yes he's very strong but there's a huge difference between jerking 400 behind the neck and strictly pressing it.
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no way in hell mariusz can strictly press 180kg, he can push press it with the explosive power he has, but in no way can he "bodybuild press" that weight.
savickas can tho
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At the end of the day the guy is immensely strong, and if you pointed out to him that he push pressed it, he'd just shrug, point to his pile of trophies and laugh.
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no way in hell mariusz can strictly press 180kg, he can push press it with the explosive power he has, but in no way can he "bodybuild press" that weight.
savickas can tho
.. hes .. not a bodybuilder tho
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At the end of the day the guy is immensely strong, and if you pointed out to him that he push pressed it, he'd just shrug, point to his pile of trophies and laugh.
guy is very strong no doubt about that..but he wouldnt win a real wsm competition...that wasnt an endurance competition. guy is very athletic and brutally strong but not as strong as savickas.
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At the end of the day the guy is immensely strong, and if you pointed out to him that he push pressed it, he'd just shrug, point to his pile of trophies and laugh.
This is true...
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.. hes .. not a bodybuilder tho
yeah i know but this thread was about how this months Flex made it look like he was using these poundages like a bodybuilder would.
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guy is very strong no doubt about that..but he wouldnt win a real wsm competition...that wasnt an endurance competition. guy is very athletic and brutally strong but not as strong as savickas.
I must not understand what a WSM competition is, because I would swear he's won a couple of them.
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.. hes .. not a bodybuilder tho
true, but some people believe a 180kg shoulder press (strict press) is common. very few guys in the world can do it..
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I must not understand what a WSM competition is, because I would swear he's won a couple of them.
when real strength is measured like at the arnold classic mariusz is crushed.
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guy is very strong no doubt about that..but he wouldnt win a real wsm competition...that wasnt an endurance competition. guy is very athletic and brutally strong but not as strong as savickas.
as far as sheer strength and power go Savikas blows Mariusz out of the water, no comparison.
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guy is very strong no doubt about that..but he wouldnt win a real wsm competition...that wasnt an endurance competition. guy is very athletic and brutally strong but not as strong as savickas.
You do realise this is Mariusz Pudzianowski, WSM winner 2002, 2003, 2005?
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when real strength is measured like at the arnold classic mariusz is crushed.
I see... I must not know what the difference is.
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You do realise this is Mariusz Pudzianowski, WSM winner 2002, 2003, 2005?
yes we realize that but if mariusz was to go over to IFSA in Europe he would barely crack the top 5 with more static strength events.
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I see... I must not know what the difference is.
real strength=the events where you are standing still moving weight, squats, deadlifts, overhead presses, etc.
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the term
'strict' is relative..
i think coleman did 405 in a photoshoot for 1 rep
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You do realise this is Mariusz Pudzianowski, WSM winner 2002, 2003, 2005?
lol i know alot about wsm bro you dont need to inform me. i also know that several guys are stronger than mariusz. mariusz is an amazing athlete but in brute strengh several guys crush him.
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the term
'strict' is relative..
i think coleman did 405 in a photoshoot for 1 rep
he didn't do that and even he would admit that.
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yeah i know but this thread was about how this months Flex made it look like he was using these poundages like a bodybuilder would.
What was surprised me even more about that issue was his diet.
one meal I think was three snickers bars. And another was chocolate ice cream.
Also he claims to never be over 5% body fat.
That is B.S.!!
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What was surprised me even more about that issue was his diet.
cone meal I think was three snickers bars. And nother was chocolate ice cream.
Also he claims to never be over 5% body fat.
That is B.S.!!
Well, he probably uses lots of drugs, so it's ok.
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the article says says he did 315 for 12...
which he did in unbelivable
and then both him and chriscormier stat he did do 405 for 1
i dont this that is a far stretch for coleman
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the article says says he did 315 for 12...
which he did in unbelivable
and then both him and chriscormier stat he did do 405 for 1
i dont this that is a far stretch for coleman
i don't know, i'd have to see it.
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i think ronnie can do one rep with 405....
315x12 should put him right at 405 for one rep. (atleast he could do it a few years ago)
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yes we realize that but if mariusz was to go over to IFSA in Europe he would barely crack the top 5 with more static strength events.
Marisuz is a shredded 285.
Savikas is pushing 350. Glen Ross is so fat it was impeding his ability to do a proper clean with the apollon'
s wheel.
If Mariusz bulked up to 350, I have no doubts he would be the best in the world. Instead, he chooses to display a physique which allows him to win the WSM.
I challenge anyone to show me a better athlete in the world today than Mariusz
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I have no doubt that he could even "strictly press" the 405 for 3-4 reps. The "log lift" in WSM is about 280, and he does 12-13 of those, and we are talking about a long ass, clumsy, unbalanced "log", with a neutral grip at that. A nice, shiny, balanced, calibrated barbell, where you can choose to grip it where you want to, in a controlled situation, with 405 would be very doable. Come on, even you pessimistic doubters about everything, would have to admit that this is very probable
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You do realize that all the WSM's are rigged don't you?
The prettiest and most publically appealing competitor wins. Always. It's rigged to be that way.
Really? I mean, that guy Phil Pfister isn't appealing at all...
I thought bodybuilding was about pretty and publicly appealing... I am so out of the loop now.
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Uh, blond, fit, tall, american, well spoken in interviews...yeah, he qualifies as "pretty".
Take Glenn Ross -- even if he was the strongest out of everyone, he'd never win (fat/ugly). They could rig the events, easy enough, so he would win, but why? The franchise would loose $$.
There is a element of truth in this. For example, UK Strongest Man organisers never want Glen to win as it doesn't promote the sport in the way they want it. They want it to look as if relatively healthy people win, not big fatties...that doesn't look good on TV for them. Watch them add in more events that require running and endurance, makes it harder for the huge guys...
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oh brother, they've got a training article this month with Marius Pudzianowski and they've got a picture of him incline pressing 585, squatting 765 and shoulder pressing 405 ::) what do you guys think?
Mariusz is one of the best athlestes in the world! I believe in those numbers, he is really strong, he is not for the looks, he is 100% functional! Nevertheless I admit that you can doubt these numbers due to the lack of knowledge you have about Mariusz!
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guy is very strong no doubt about that..but he wouldnt win a real wsm competition...that wasnt an endurance competition. guy is very athletic and brutally strong but not as strong as savickas.
psssssssst come closer
he won 3...
hope this helps...
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i would believe the 765 squat but not the 585 incline or the 405 standing press.
Exactly.
No fcuking way on the standing press. The incline is bullshit as well.
The squat is believable, but definitely no walk in the park for Pudzi.
-Hedge
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Marisuz is a shredded 285.
Savikas is pushing 350. Glen Ross is so fat it was impeding his ability to do a proper clean with the apollon'
s wheel.
If Mariusz bulked up to 350, I have no doubts he would be the best in the world. Instead, he chooses to display a physique which allows him to win the WSM.
I challenge anyone to show me a better athlete in the world today than Mariusz
Correction: Savickas is around 360-370 lbs.
And I can give you three athletes who are better strongmen than Pudzi:
Savickas.
Mikhail Koklyaev. (check this clip out, one of my all-time favs)
Virastyuk.
-Hedge
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ronnie could seated military 405 for sure. in unbelivable he did 12 reps with 315 5 weeks out of competition. im sure offseason he can handle that weight.
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You do realize that all the WSM's are rigged don't you?
The prettiest and most publically appealing competitor wins. Always. It's rigged to be that way.
I think he means various Olympias & NOC; some were obviously rigged over the years. WSM the only thing that can be said is that the events might be skewed towards power rather than brute strength, which i have no problem with-strength coupled with athleticism. Much prefer seeing Mariusz win than a 400 lb. blob who can hardly move. Mariuz could also bulk up to a blob and be closer to the others in terms of brute strength if he wanted.
A 405 lb. push-press is awesome & not far off from strict.
If Coleman loses the next Olympia, hopefull he'll try some new things including WSM before he's too old. If he gets the weight down and gets in quality prep in terms of the specific events it would be great promo for BB and for him.
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Exactly.
No fcuking way on the standing press. The incline is bullshit as well.
The squat is believable, but definitely no walk in the park for Pudzi.
-Hedge
so, Hedgehog, you don't believe the great Mariuz can scratch 585lbs on the incline?
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there was also a claim that he did a 550 behind the neck press.
::)
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psssssssst come closer
he won 3...
hope this helps...
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i know hes has won wsm, but thats more endurance events than real pure power (relatively speaking of course). arnold classic is about real pure power.
and when he enters arnold classic he (mariusz) gets raped by savickas and others. and there is no question mariusz is an amazing athlete, but he aint worlds strongest man.
hope this helps ;D
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oh brother, they've got a training article this month with Marius Pudzianowski and they've got a picture of him incline pressing 585, squatting 765 and shoulder pressing 405 ::) what do you guys think?
Have you not seen the videos confirming this? It's only for singles, and he is pretty much the strongest man in the world you know.
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ronnie could seated military 405 for sure. in unbelivable he did 12 reps with 315 5 weeks out of competition. im sure offseason he can handle that weight.
ronnie isnt much stronger in the "offseason" than he was in that movie (5 weeks out)...also he doesnt go that heavy all the time. i also believe ronnie could do 405. but not for "reps".
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Marisuz is a shredded 285.
Savikas is pushing 350. Glen Ross is so fat it was impeding his ability to do a proper clean with the apollon'
s wheel.
If Mariusz bulked up to 350, I have no doubts he would be the best in the world. Instead, he chooses to display a physique which allows him to win the WSM.
I challenge anyone to show me a better athlete in the world today than Mariusz
coulda, shoulda, woulda, blah, blah, blah, if Mariusz wants to prove he's the strongest in the world he should gain the weight and go prove it against the REAL strongmen in the IFSA, Savikas, Kochlaev, Ross and Virastuk, until then he is a pretender to the crown.
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coulda, shoulda, woulda, blah, blah, blah, if Mariusz wants to prove he's the strongest in the world he should gain the weight and go prove it against the REAL strongmen in the IFSA, Savikas, Kochlaev, Ross and Virastuk, until then he is a pretender to the crown.
exactly, its not about relative strength...its about who is the strongest, regardless of weight. savickas and others mutilitate pudz in brute power.
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You guys crack me up.. you think it's easier to do an endurance/strength event then it is a basic compound lift like deadlift, squat or bench!?!?! are you joking?? in the endurance event you have the weight + must have speed and the stamina to move that weight while holding/lifting it. In the basic lifts you're not moving (exuding energy) you're just situated in one place lifting a weight... which to you seems harder and required more concentration??
Marius is the 3 time WORLD'S STRONGEST MAN.. deal with it, oh and as for WSM being rigged?? get off the crack pipe, the events are the same for everyone in the competition.. some contestants are at an advantage/disadvantage because of their height/weight/cardio ability, but in the end (throughout all the events) it gets balanced out.
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i know hes has won wsm, but thats more endurance events than real pure power (relatively speaking of course). arnold classic is about real pure power.
and when he enters arnold classic he (mariusz) gets raped by savickas and others. and there is no question mariusz is an amazing athlete, but he aint worlds strongest man.
hope this helps ;D
WSM is power which includes strength applied quickly with athleticism & some endurance, not just strength. That could be argued to be as good or better a measure than anything else.
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You guys crack me up.. you think it's easier to do an endurance/strength event then it is a basic compound lift like deadlift, squat or bench!?!?! are you joking?? in the endurance event you have the weight + must have speed and the stamina to move that weight while holding/lifting it. In the basic lifts you're not moving (exuding energy) you're just situated in one place lifting a weight... which to you seems harder and required more concentration??
Marius is the 3 time WORLD'S STRONGEST MAN.. deal with it, oh and as for WSM being rigged?? get off the crack pipe, the events are the same for everyone in the competition.. some contestants are at an advantage/disadvantage because of their height/weight/cardio ability, but in the end (throughout all the events) it gets balanced out.
spoken like a "man" who's never done a heavy squat, deadlift or bench press in his life. ::)
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You guys crack me up.. you think it's easier to do an endurance/strength event then it is a basic compound lift like deadlift, squat or bench!?!?! are you joking?? in the endurance event you have the weight + must have speed and the stamina to move that weight while holding/lifting it. In the basic lifts you're not moving (exuding energy) you're just situated in one place lifting a weight... which to you seems harder and required more concentration??
Marius is the 3 time WORLD'S STRONGEST MAN.. deal with it, oh and as for WSM being rigged?? get off the crack pipe, the events are the same for everyone in the competition.. some contestants are at an advantage/disadvantage because of their height/weight/cardio ability, but in the end (throughout all the events) it gets balanced out.
can you read?
mariusz is an all around great athlete (i have said it 4-5 times in this thread) but when it comes to brute power he aint the worlds "strongest" man. savickas is.
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WSM is power which includes strength applied quickly with athleticism & some endurance, not just strength. That could be argued to be as good or better a measure than anything else.
call it what you want. savickas is stronger than mariusz when it comes to brute power, thats what i been trying to say. not talking about running around with 100kg jugs of water. i havent discussed anything else than that.
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can you read?
mariusz is an all around great athlete (i have said it 4-5 times in this thread) but when it comes to brute power he aint the worlds "strongest" man. savickas is.
That's fine, according to the World's Strongest Man contest, which has been around since the 70's, Marius IS the World's Strongest Man, that's my point.. the guy doesn't get the respect he deserves because of fat powerlifting jello blobs that are stronger in events that require no physical movement (aside from the actual lift itself).
Half of these powerlifter guys would have a heart attack if they atempted something like the atlas stones or the farmers walk.
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That's fine, according to the World's Strongest Man contest, which has been around since the 70's, Marius IS the World's Strongest Man, that's my point.. the guy doesn't get the respect he deserves because of fat powerlifting jello blobs that are stronger in events that require no physical movement (aside from the actual lift itself).
Half of these powerlifter guys would have a heart attack if they atempted something like the atlas stones or the farmers walk.
Good post!
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That's fine, according to the World's Strongest Man contest, which has been around since the 70's, Marius IS the World's Strongest Man, that's my point.. the guy doesn't get the respect he deserves because of fat powerlifting jello blobs that are stronger in events that require no physical movement (aside from the actual lift itself).
Half of these powerlifter guys would have a heart attack if they atempted something like the atlas stones or the farmers walk.
I have no problem with atlas stones being one of the events.
It's a great strongman event.
But the problem is when the heaviest stone can be lifted by all competitors.
Then it's obviously not heavy enough.
FWIW, Savickas always wins this event when it's real heavy.
-Hedge
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Right ill chime in my opinions if youll permit me to express my opinion:
Mariusz under the current format of WSM is untouchable, even with his loss to Pfister. He's only going to get better so i see him winning atleast another 3 if he stays healthy.
Savickas has more raw power than he ever will because he is perfectly built to handle the impossible weights. Mariusz may have the muscle but Savickas has the overall body size
As far as total body strength goes, Glenn Ross has more strength than either man. Hes been injured for the last few years but at his absolute peak there isnt a man ive seen that could compete with him
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I have no problem with atlas stones being one of the events.
But the problem is when the heaviest stone can be lifted by all competitors.
Then it's obviously not heavy enough.
-Hedge
Thats the most retarded post in ages!!
Big fucking deal if they can all do it (which they cannot) its about speed, balance, power in combination with strength.
WSM is not a powerlifting event!
ta ta
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WSM is power which includes strength applied quickly with athleticism & some endurance, not just strength. That could be argued to be as good or better a measure than anything else.
any of the WSM of powerlifters train on a bowflex?
owned again.
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Thats the most retarded post in ages!!
Big fucking deal if they can all do it (which they cannot) its about speed, balance, power in combination with strength.
WSM is not a powerlifting event!
ta ta
The problem is that if the Atlas Stones are too light, the event is about who is able to run the quickest between the stones instead of, rather, who the best lifter of the stones.
-Hedge
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Some people are saying that Mariusz is not as strong in power movements, yet this year he destroyed nearly everyone in the deadlift and overhead press?
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You do realize that all the WSM's are rigged don't you?
The prettiest and most publically appealing competitor wins. Always. It's rigged to be that way.
how do you rig a strength contest...? you can either lift the weight or you can't!
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how do you rig a strength contest...? you can either lift the weight or you can't!
you're about to be schooled.
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you're about to be schooled.
how so?
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how so?
not sure just wait ;D
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how do you rig a strength contest...? you can either lift the weight or you can't!
Smoke and mirrors! And invisible elves! ;D
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Thats the most retarded post in ages!!
Big fucking deal if they can all do it (which they cannot) its about speed, balance, power in combination with strength.
WSM is not a powerlifting event!
ta ta
This is all I was trying to get across..powerlifting is a bunch of fat out of shape slobs (sorry garraeth) competing in 3 basic compound lifts (and with the size of benchshirts lately I wouldn't even call that a lift) the lifts are stationary, there is no movement involved OTHER THEN THE ACTUAL LIFT ITSELF.. it's like comparing a freeweight dumbell press to a smith machine press.. there might be a reason why almost anyone can bench 3 plates a side on smith machine but can barely do the 100's with dumbells.
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Marius is fucking awesome and he looks better than any of those fat clowns.
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once again, mariusz has three WSMs, savickas has four ASCs. savickas placed second repeatedly at the WSMs, pudz was 3rd or below at the ASCs.
point to point savickas is the better athlete, as he not only dominates one of the competitions, but is just barely behind in the other, while mariusz dominates one and is struggling hard in the other.
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This is all I was trying to get across..powerlifting is a bunch of fat out of shape slobs (sorry garraeth) competing in 3 basic compound lifts (and with the size of benchshirts lately I wouldn't even call that a lift) the lifts are stationary, there is no movement involved OTHER THEN THE ACTUAL LIFT ITSELF.. it's like comparing a freeweight dumbell press to a smith machine press.. there might be a reason why almost anyone can bench 3 plates a side on smith machine but can barely do the 100's with dumbells.
Yeah, fat, out of shape guys like Matt Kroczaleski:
Or perhaps his 174 lbs dumbbell row x 33 reps!
Yeah, moron, he is a real slob... ::)
You don't know shit about powerlifting you twit. You really should not speak about what you know nothing about.
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Yeah, fat, out of shape guys like Matt Kroczaleski:
Or perhaps his 174 lbs dumbbell row x 33 reps!
Yeah, moron, he is a real slob... ::)
You don't know shit about powerlifting you twit. You really should not speak about what you know nothing about.
You're absolutely right dipshit, I don't know anything about powerlifting BECAUSE I DON'T GIVE TWO FUCKS ABOUT IT!!! this is a BODYBUILDING forum. Like I really care if some 450lb. slob that eats 40 donuts a day can bounce 500lbs. of his chest with 3 spotters and a 4 ply bench shirt. Get a clue, oh and while you're at it you might wanna hit the gym and put some actual muscle on your scrawny little body.
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Do some research, but the basic breakdown is:
1 week of prelimiaries with groups of four athletes. 40 athletes in all. 10 groups. 1 from each group goes to the finals.
So for example in Group 1 if you want Athlete A to win...
Athlete A is tall, long legs, good endurance, poor squatting and poor shoulders. Add to that group a good squatter w/ poor endurance, a good endurance who is short, a good all around strength with no endurance.
Do events like the one where they have to carry the barrels in water (endurance + height).
The one where they have to lift the objects to the high platforms (height, endurance, overall strength).
Any speed event.
Don't do any squatting, deadlifting or overhead pressing events.
Athlete A wins easy.
Repeat for the finals.
omg, you guys are so stupid it is completely unbelievable... ::) Back to the short yellow bus with the lot of you.
That's a nice conspiracy theory you've got going there.. you really think contest organizers would go to such great lengths to hold back the fat athletes ?
Like i've stated previously, over the course of the competition throughout multiple events things even out, not every event is designed for the taller guy with better endurance, that's why there are multiple events and not one or two. Geez.
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This is all I was trying to get across..powerlifting is a bunch of fat out of shape slobs (sorry garraeth) competing in 3 basic compound lifts (and with the size of benchshirts lately I wouldn't even call that a lift) the lifts are stationary, there is no movement involved OTHER THEN THE ACTUAL LIFT ITSELF.. it's like comparing a freeweight dumbell press to a smith machine press.. there might be a reason why almost anyone can bench 3 plates a side on smith machine but can barely do the 100's with dumbells.
The SHWs of powerlifting are often fat slobs, except for a few guys. I will agree with you there. Exceptions being guys like Brian Siders, Kirk Karwoski and Kazmaier.
As the garments develops, the fatsos gets even better. The reason is because the fat gives the lifter a tremendous pressure and bounce, specifically in the squat and the benchpress. Being obese isn't of any advantage in the deadlift.
That's why you'll find the fattest lifters as benchpress specialists. Guys like Gene Rychlak, Clay Brandenburg, Mike Wolfe (in the past).
These guys wouldn't been in the money before the arrival of the benchpress shirts.
Also, if Gene Rychlak would diet down to healthy levels of bodyfat, I doubt that he would raw bench 400 lbs. Consider then that there are claims that he has a raw bench of 650+ lbs, although I don't believe that.
As far as strongman events, Savickas and a few others are better than Pudzi. That's the way it is.
They are not stationary fat slobs. But they will lose to Pudzi every time as long as there are bullshit events like Atlas Stones with the heaviest stone only being 360-380 lbs.
Pudzi has a shot at hanging with these guys as long as it is high reps. Like when the Apollons Axle isn't decided on max weight, but rather on how many reps in 90 seconds.
Look at the Hummer Deadlift. Savickas owned everyone. Even the best deadlifter in the world, Benni Magnusson. Pudzi wasn't even close.
-Hedge
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Heh. Naive.
So when hanging with them in Las Vegas, and again in Morocco, and all the talk was about how the organizers set things up for so-and-so to win, I was simply a poor sap caught up in a WSM-wide conspiracy theory?
okey... ::)
Yeah, you are certifiable. Did you not read (or maybe you didn't comprehend) my post outlining how simple it was to rig the whole series of events?
Taller guy with better endurance? So you take my example and generalize it to debate the topic? Douche. You can't even grasp the concept of an example. Why do I even bother? Figure it out yourself. It's all in black and white on the strongman sites.
The most obvious setup was when Magnus Samuelsson won back in 1999.
From what I recall, there were no heavy leg or back work in the finals or in his heat to the finals.
-Hedge
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They are not stationary fat slobs. But they will lose to Pudzi every time as long as there are bullshit events like Atlas Stones with the heaviest stone only being 360-380 lbs.
Pudzi has a shot at hanging with these guys as long as it is high reps. Like when the Apollons Axle isn't decided on max weight, but rather on how many reps in 90 seconds.
Look at the Hummer Deadlift. Savickas owned everyone. Even the best deadlifter in the world, Benni Magnusson. Pudzi wasn't even close.
-Hedge
Good points; if they want a certain type to win it's for what reason then-a more acceptable appearance.
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You do realize that all the WSM's are rigged don't you?
The prettiest and most publically appealing competitor wins. Always. It's rigged to be that way.
The thing is even if you're right-and you didn't really detail what you've meant for the most part, I hardly think most of the winners outside of Marius are more appealing. How are they?
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You're absolutely right dipshit, I don't know anything about powerlifting BECAUSE I DON'T GIVE TWO FUCKS ABOUT IT!!! this is a BODYBUILDING forum. Like I really care if some 450lb. slob that eats 40 donuts a day can bounce 500lbs. of his chest with 3 spotters and a 4 ply bench shirt. Get a clue, oh and while you're at it you might wanna hit the gym and put some actual muscle on your scrawny little body.
Lol, ok, let's first look at your board name; what's the matter, can't build any muscle clean?
Ok, let's get past that, now, as you can't even spell the word "off" correctly, I will not assume you have a high I.Q., but I would hope you are at least intelligent enough to realize what you are spewing is just pure stupidity.
Alas, it probably ain't gonna happen, and that is just a pity...
Oh, and post a picture of yourself so we can see what you have accomplished with your incredible fervor for bodybuilding and your use of anabolics (I have to assume you use based upon your screen name).
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had a guy in my gym that could shoulder press 405, brought it down to the front not the back, down to his chin.
he could bench 620, best i ever saw him incline was around 500 and this dude was totally steroid free so for a juicer i'd say its possible. although this member of mine weighed about 310 at 5'7, as he was a powerlifter.
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Powerlifters are fat and need a suit to bench over 500 pounds.
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Powerlifters are fat and need a suit to bench over 500 pounds.
That's a no lift. No stop on the chest, also looked like he lifted his ass off the bench.
-Hedge
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I agree, but:
He obviously didn't bounce or anything like that, I'd say it's still hella impressive.
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What about this one?
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I agree, but:
He obviously didn't bounce, I'd say it's still hella impressive.
Yes. Very impressive. He's the best un-tested benchpresser in the world, and credit to him for doing his thing instead of trying to cheat like the Russians and Coan did.
Here's the best ever, James Henderson:
(http://europowerlifting.org/old/henderson.jpg)
-Hedge
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Yes. Very impressive. He's the best un-tested benchpresser in the world, and credit to him for doing his thing instead of trying to cheat like the Russians and Coan did.
Here's the best ever, James Henderson:
(http://europowerlifting.org/old/henderson.jpg)
-Hedge
Agree, Henderson also benched a raw 711?
And what about Kaz, 661 @ age 19, those guys are true genetic monsters.
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Agree, Henderson also benched a raw 711?
And what about Kaz, 661 @ age 19, those guys are true genetic monsters.
Kaz wasn't 19 when he benched 661 you fuccking moron.
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Lol, ok, let's first look at your board name; what's the matter, can't build any muscle clean?
Ok, let's get past that, now, as you can't even spell the word "off" correctly, I will not assume you have a high I.Q., but I would hope you are at least intelligent enough to realize what you are spewing is just pure stupidity.
Alas, it probably ain't gonna happen, and that is just a pity...
Oh, and post a picture of yourself so we can see what you have accomplished with your incredible fervor for bodybuilding and your use of anabolics (I have to assume you use based upon your screen name).
Sigh... this coming from a 180lb. monster who's range of motion is 3", where's that famous video of you trying to t-bar row that everyone was making fun of a few weeks ago??, I've posted pics on here before I don't see the point in doing it again, I don't see what difference it makes since we're arguing about powerlifting.
Oh, and my IQ was measured at 144 when I was in high school, but thanks for trying :)
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Sigh... this coming from a 180lb. monster who's range of motion is 3", where's that famous video of you trying to t-bar row that everyone was making fun of a few weeks ago??, I've posted pics on here before I don't see the point in doing it again, I don't see what difference it makes since we're arguing about powerlifting.
Oh, and my IQ was measured at 144 when I was in high school, but thanks for trying :)
gotta agree with you here, Chris is a little bitch.
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Kaz wasn't 19 when he benched 661 you fuccking moron.
No he wasn't. Thx, you fuccking moron.
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That's a no lift. No stop on the chest, also looked like he lifted his ass off the bench.
-Hedge
one of the problems with mendy is he gets SO much leeway from the judges. in almost every video i've seen, the judge doesn't actual wait to see a pause, he just tries to time yelling "PRESS!" so he says it right when the bar makes contact. and the shirted videos are pretty similar, not to mention he shoots straight back into the supports. henderson and chabot for raw, big gene for shirted. 8)
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Mariusz is the best strength athlete in the world... all round perfect athlete.