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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Wikidudeman on March 08, 2007, 09:45:53 PM
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Hello everyone
I am new to this forum. I signed up to this forum because I noticed it is one of the online forums that professional bodybuilders most frequently post on and I thought this would be quicker. I recently signed up to this forum to make an inquiry to all professional bodybuilders concerning the online encyclopedia "Wikipedia". Wikipedia is the most detailed encyclopedia online and is one of the most visited sites online today. Millions of people visit Wikipedia everyday and many of them use it as their only source of information. This may not be a good thing but it is true none the less. That said, I am posting this thread to ask anyone(Pro or amateur bodybuilders) who is concerned about how they are presented on Wikipedia to please help me improve your Wikipedia entries. I am a frequent editor of Wikipedia and I am trying very hard to improve as many articles as I can.
Here is a list of 3 things that you can help me with...
- Improving the factual accuracy of your Wikipedia articles
- Helping to increase amount of content presented in articles.
- Providing copyright free images that you took yourself and are willing to release to me so that I can release them into public domain so that they can be used in the Wikipedia articles.
Anyone can help. Professional bodybuilders themselves who are concerned about improving their Wikipedia articles by providing copyright free images or correcting factual errors or by other posters on this site who could do the same.
On another note, This whole thing was brought to my attention when I was browsing through the Bodybuilding portal and noticed that the majority of the pictures used in the articles were actually copyrighted. They were scanned image covers of Muscle-mags and such images' copyrights belong to the magazine in question. Thus any images that you find online or scan from magazines are copyrighted and won't work.
Here are a few examples of Wikipedia articles that might give you an idea of how you might be able to help.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Cutler_%28bodybuilder%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Cutler_%28bodybuilder%29)
(Lacks photograph)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Priest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Priest)
(Lacks detailed info and photograph)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_bodybuilders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_bodybuilders)
(Large list of male and female professional bodybuilders)
So, If anyone wants to help just post in this thread. If you want to point out an error in an article just provide the link and point out the error (sources help a lot). If you want to provide a copyright free image simply post the image in this thread and release the copyright to me which I will then release into the public domain on Wikipedia. Public domain means it belongs to the public, anyone can use it. There are other copyrights that can be used, if you want to contribute an image to Wikipedia under another copyright then just say so and I'll try to accommodate.
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Welcome to the Thunderdome, BITCH.
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I refuse to read all of this mindless drivel.
Can anyone summarize it for me?
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Welcome to the Thunderdome, BITCH.
LMAO!!
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Short summary:
If you are a Pro Bodybuilder with a Wikipedia article and want to help improve your article then simply point out factual errors in your article or provide other relevant information.
If you are a Pro Bodybuilder and want your Wikipedia article to have an image then please post a copyright free image in this thread (Or E-mail it to me) and release all copyright of the image to me which I can release to the public domain and put into the article.
If you can do any of the above and are not a Professional and are simply a fan then you can help as well.
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I'll see if I can help. This is a good thing and good for bodybuilding.
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Welcome to the Thunderdome, BITCH.
your are officially welcome now.... lmao
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A note on Copyright images..
Images from search engines or magazines or websites or anything like that do not qualify as "copyright free". In the United States the copyright owner of an image is the person who creates it or publishes it. If you take a picture then you own the copyright of that image. You don't need to "register" it or anything like that.
So if you attend expo's and have a few images of professional bodybuilders who have wikipedia articles then you can post them and release them to me which I can release to the public domain. Preferably clear and large images that show the face of the person in question.
Other forms of copyright include the GNU copyright convention.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GNU_Free_Doc umentation_License (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GNU_Free_Documentation_License)
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Aren't you the same guy that popped on www.100WaysToLoveTheCock .com's board under the name WikiCockLover and ask to "wiki" member after going down on them for a small fee?
you realize for that joke to work, you must have frequented that site and seen him there. ::)
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you realize for that joke to work, you must have frequented that site and seen him there. ::)
Hahahahaha... "so I heard" 8)
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Let's try to be serious for a moment please. 8)
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Let's try to be serious for a moment please. 8)
good luck......... i hope you'll find what your looking for!!!
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nvm.
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Ok, the guy is serious. He has emailed me in the past on this issue, and since that site does help and wants to promote bodybuilding in a positive way, he is asking for help, which I am granting him.
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Sorry Ron,
Wikidudeman, I've contributed to a couple of Pro's Wiki entry and will be glad to help if you need anything. just PM me.
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Maxx, I updated Jay Cutlers competition record to mention he won the 2006 Olympia.
Alex23, If you have the time. Please look through some of the "Professional bodybuilder" profiles found here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_bodybuilders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_bodybuilders)
Scan through the articles and see if you can spot anything that might be missing or see if you can spot any factual errors. Also, If you have any images that you yourself took then please post them here and release them to me so I can use them on Wikipedia.
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Let's try to be serious for a moment please. 8)
Kitty litter taste funny.
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Maxx, I updated Jay Cutlers competition record to mention he won the 2006 Olympia.
Alex23, If you have the time. Please look through some of the "Professional bodybuilder" profiles found here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_bodybuilders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_bodybuilders)
Scan through the articles and see if you can spot anything that might be missing or see if you can spot any factual errors. Also, If you have any images that you yourself took then please post them here and release them to me so I can use them on Wikipedia.
Ever heard of www.musclememory.com pretty tracks all IFBB/NPC/WBBF contest result in history. Might think about linking to it/sourcing from it as well.
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Maxx, I updated Jay Cutlers competition record to mention he won the 2006 Olympia.
Alex23, If you have the time. Please look through some of the "Professional bodybuilder" profiles found here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_bodybuilders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_bodybuilders)
Scan through the articles and see if you can spot anything that might be missing or see if you can spot any factual errors. Also, If you have any images that you yourself took then please post them here and release them to me so I can use them on Wikipedia.
The whole write up on Lee Priest needs to be rewritten. It doesn't flow at all. Plus you are missing some interesting facts on Lee's father.
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Mustafa Mohammad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Mohammad
And his official site is: www.teammustafa.com -- has pretty much everything about him that's ever been published. The "Contact" page emails him directly.
Yes, I don't really have time to go through his website and write up the Wikipedia profile that way. Or E-mail him or each bodybuilder personally. I'm relying on everyone here helping by giving ideas on how the articles should be composed or worded, pointing out factual errors or what might be added, and providing photographs.
P.S. The photograph on that page seems to be copyrighted. The "fair use" rational isn't valid.
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Welcome to Getbig
(http://www.tonyrogers.com/humor/images/brian_peppers2.jpg)
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? ? ?
so you're basically just advertising that the wikipedia exists and has bodybuilders on it?
okey....yey
I don't think you understand why I'm here.
I need help from everyone here to...
- Get copyright free images to use in the bodybuilder articles.
- Fact check bodybuilders articles.
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He's not talking to you guys, but all the pros should really be concerned with seeing that this guy gets your best information. It's one of the first things Hollywood celebrities and other professional athletes make sure gets done right these days. Wikipedia's the shit. If you doubt me, just look up something you wouldn't think much of like, "Deadlift" on there and read. It basically tells you anything relevant to that subject that you want to know and the articles always contain really good trivia. Look up any celebrity or historical figure. It's some of the best reading you can do if you're interested in that person. And the cross-referencing is key, too. Kinda like what helps make YouTube so good.
I've looked lately and the fitness/bodybuilding industry is WAY behind on that site. If the industry wants to be taken seriously they'll get their Wikipedia representation right ASAP. It's pretty basic anymore.
The good part for Getbiggers is that they do not discount controversy. Read Mike Mentzer's article on there.
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I don't think you understand why I'm here.
I need help from everyone here to...
- Get copyright free images to use in the bodybuilder articles.
- Fact check bodybuilders articles.
If you are going to have a "joke" section of the Bodybuilding section here are a few pics I can give free of charge. They are of the most delusional people on Getbig. You could also use them in your delusional section. Hope this helps. The darker one has a few mental problems too. The lighter guy is just plain delusional
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This guy started out as a professional bodybuilder, and now look at him!
(http://www.sicktracks.com/galleries/data/500/580damme20dance.jpg)
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This guy started out as a professional bodybuilder, and now look at him!
(http://www.sicktracks.com/galleries/data/500/580damme20dance.jpg)
Hahahahaha... Wikidude talk to kenny about some good avatar sized images, dude should really put his whole collection online and cataloged for everyone to see
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Ok, the guy is serious. He has emailed me in the past on this issue, and since that site does help and wants to promote bodybuilding in a positive way, he is asking for help, which I am granting him.
ROWNED
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Is anyone going to take this seriously or am I wasting my time here?
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Is anyone going to take this seriously or am I wasting my time here?
Are you a bodybuilding fan, or strictly a contributor to Wikipedia? If you knew this crowd you wouldn't ask that question, so be more patient if you really want responses that you're gonna care about. Also, not everyone that might be interested in giving you information for their entry is gonna open a thread on a bodybuilding forum labeled generically "Attention all bodybuilders." I think you might wanna change the thread title to something like, "Bodybuilding On Wikipedia," or something to that effect...something more relevant. If you want the most responses to your query, then hope a meaningful discussion gets going about it in this thread, which is the only thing that will keep it bumped, and it'll also help allow the pros more time to see it and understand the importance of it.
Actually, there's a couple of guys on here that might be interested in compiling this info as a service to the pros to give to you FOR THEM. Much like a PR person does for notable personalities in other interest groups and sports/entertainment genres.
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Yes. You might be right. I changed the title. I'm going to take the initiative to start a discussion.
Let's start with the Markus Rühl Wikipedia article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markus_R%C3%BChl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markus_R%C3%BChl)
Someone give me some ideas on how this might be improved. Provide sources also and you can also write out what you think could be added.
Who you need to convince of the value of these bodybuilding Wikipedia entries are the same people in the industry behind-the-scenes that do all the other promotions for the guys/gals that actively participate in the sport. If you do that, your job is done here and you'll have a steady stream of people's entries coming to you from a select few sources because someone or a few someones competent and motivated enough to specialize in this would eventually step up and start contacting the pros for you on an individual basis and tell them what's up and get what you need from them. They could charge a fee for this service. Rob or Matt C might be interested.
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Is anyone going to take this seriously or am I wasting my time here?
You've publicized that the bodybuilder articles on Wikipedia could use improvement. The few us of here who would make good contributors will probably pitch in a little - if they haven't already done so in the past. So you've accomplished all you're going to.
The schoolmarm tone will not help. Trust me.
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Do a Wikipedia search on anybody hot in entertainment right now and you'll see just how much time and attention to detail is given their entries. I'm talking about daily revisions, based on like, what happened last night. The world has started to depend on Wikipedia as the most concise and at the same time, comprehensive reference source in the modern day world. Right behind Google maybe, but if you wanna know about somebody do Wikipedia first. It's got what you wanna know.
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That's why I thought the Bodybuilders themselves might want to provide a good picture for their article and take a look at the article to see if everything is correct. Wikipedia discourages individuals editing their own articles for ethical reasons but that's why I'm here.
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That's why I thought the Bodybuilders themselves might want to provide a good picture for their article and take a look at the article to see if everything is correct. Wikipedia discourages individuals editing their own articles for ethical reasons but that's why I'm here.
you sound like a first-class jerk off man, Fuck you and your Wikipedia
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Welcome to the Thunderdome, BITCH.
Ain't that the truth! ;D
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Yes, Anyone here who has been to any of the Expo's and is willing to let me use some of their images on Wikipedia please post them here and give me your permission to use them in the profile of the bodybuilder.
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Yes, Anyone here who has been to any of the Expo's and is willing to let me use some of their images on Wikipedia please post them here and give me your permission to use them in the profile of the bodybuilder.
Here's Jay Cutler before he started lifting weights:
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Is anyone going to take this seriously or am I wasting my time here?
This question should've probably been in your first post. Right when I read why you're here, I laughed and thought, "this is going to be good!"
BTW, seriosly...good luck
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I am going to help.
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Is anyone going to take this seriously or am I wasting my time here?
You might get some people to offer help... most of the folks in the industry read this board even if they don't post, but the majority of the posters will give you shit to see how long it takes for you to melt down. Think of it as an initiation for all noobs. ;D
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The Glory Of The True Adonis
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The Glory Of The True Adonis
ripped to shreds, perfect classical physique.
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I don't "melt down". Wost thing that result from my getting no help here is I take it to another message board. That's assuming I don't just cut my loses(time wise) and let the articles stay the way they are.
Hey just a head's up for you guys...this Wikidudeman was apparently just randomly assigned bodybuilding by Wikipedia, which means, he probably has no alterior motives here. I think he's rubbing people the wrong way because we suspect he's a schmoe trying to make it sound like he's doing the industry a favor. If he were a schmoe, there'd be no real favor involved, as he gets to interact with the bodybuilders. But my source tells me he really doesn't know anything about bodybuilding, so this guy really is uninitiated here.
IMO, it would greatly behoove the industry to utilize the service this guy has to offer. If you're an IFBB Pro, enter your name into Wikipedia and see what comes up. It could probably represent you so much better, is all I'm saying. Wikipedia's a pretty good "Who's Who" indicator these days so I think people should respect it.
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What is this? It doesn't look accurate to me.
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Hey just a head's up for you guys...this Wikidudeman was apparently just randomly assigned bodybuilding by Wikipedia, which means, he probably has no alterior motives here. I think he's rubbing people the wrong way because we suspect he's a schmoe trying to make it sound like he's doing the industry a favor. If he were a schmoe, there'd be no real favor involved, as he gets to interact with the bodybuilders. But my source tells me he really doesn't know anything about bodybuilding, so this guy really is uninitiated here.
IMO, it would greatly behoove the industry to utilize the service this guy has to offer. If you're an IFBB Pro, enter your name into Wikipedia and see what comes up. It could probably represent you so much better, is all I'm saying. Wikipedia's a pretty good "Who's Who" indicator these days so I think people should respect it.
This isn't technically correct. I decided to improve the Bodybuilding articles because no one else was really working to improve them.
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What is this? It doesn't look accurate to me.
it's not accurate Danielson, according to that he would be 35 years old, he's definitely got to be in his mid-late forties. ;)
night of homosexuals funny stuff
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it's not accurate Danielson, according to that he would be 35 years old, he's definitely got to be in his mid-late forties. ;)
night of homosexuals funny stuff
I didn't do it, I just noticed how far off this dude is.
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I didn't do it, I just noticed how far off this dude is.
you didn't change the contest history to read night of homosexuals?
HAHAHAHAHAHA is it really on wikipedophile like that? haha 430lbs offseason and 380 for a contest!! hahahaha this guy really does need help and lots of it!
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you didn't change the contest history to read night of homosexuals?
HAHAHAHAHAHA is it really on wikipedophile like that? haha 430lbs offseason and 380 for a contest!! hahahaha this guy really does need help and lots of it!
No, I didn't. It was like that, swear to god.
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hang in there Wikiman, if you stick around long enough you will get what you're looking for. ;)
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um, isn't that by definition what the whole wikipedia is? publicly editable?
heh, I love religious zealot tree hugger ideological open sourcers, with blinders on...a virtual barrel of monkies
I don't know about any of the "religious zealot tree hugger" stuff but Wikipedia is part of the open source or "copy left" philosophy. Wikipedia has more articles than any encyclopedia in the world. It is true that vandals can add anything they want but that isn't a major problem on Wikipedia most of the time. Let me give you an example.
That edit to the Markus Rühl article which said "night of homosexuals" was made on 15:50, 11 March 2007. The 'revert' that reverted that edit back to it's normal state was made 15:51, 11 March 2007. That's 1 minute later.
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I don't know about any of the "religious zealot tree hugger" stuff but Wikipedia is part of the open source or "copy left" philosophy. Wikipedia has more articles than any encyclopedia in the world. It is true that vandals can add anything they want but that isn't a major problem on Wikipedia most of the time. Let me give you an example.
That edit to the Markus Rühl article which said "night of homosexuals" was made on 15:50, 11 March 2007. The 'revert' that reverted that edit back to it's normal state was made 15:51, 11 March 2007. That's 1 minute later.
Well, I don't know how it could have been reverted back in one minute considering I got a pm with a link and it was there, therefore it was up long enough for someone to change it and let me know about it, and for me to see it.
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Do you consider yourself a "natural" bodybuilder? Adonis?
Yes.
Completly Natural. No steroids, prohormones Ever.
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Well, I don't know how it could have been reverted back in one minute considering I got a pm with a link and it was there, therefore it was up long enough for someone to change it and let me know about it, and for me to see it.
That happened in 1 minute. Wikipedia has a 'history' of all of the edits of any article. Here is the history from the Markus Rühl article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Markus_R%C3%BChl&action=history (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Markus_R%C3%BChl&action=history)
The edit prior to the vandal was made by me on 01:59, 10 March 2007. The vandal's edit was made on 15:50, 11 March 2007. It was reverted on 15:51, 11 March 2007.
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Looks like Ruhl did a DVD with DA:
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Looks like Ruhl did a DVD with DA:
The benefit of Wikipedia is it let's you see the IP of the vandals.
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The benefit of Wikipedia is it let's you see the IP of the vandals.
have u got good hacking skillz?
the goat posts using uber proxy methods, froma remote part of the world.
You cant touch him.
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The benefit of Wikipedia is it let's you see the IP of the vandals.
Which gets you what, exactly?
They seem to have struck again:
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have u got good hacking skillz?
the goat posts using uber proxy methods, froma remote part of the world.
You cant touch him.
Even if you crack the proxy, it'll just lead you back to some fool's unsecured WiFi box. ;D
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;D
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my point exactly...left-winged idealogists wearing rose-colored glasses, hoping the wikipedia will swallow up the "for pay" world of information.
Because, ya know, the anonymous general public is both 100% trustworthy, and 100% always correct*. Digg is another great example of this tree-hugging ideology that went sour despite the many angry zealots constantly proclaiming otherwise.
See:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=133540.msg1896388#msg1896388 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=133540.msg1896388#msg1896388)
Adonis contributes to Wikipedia. Look at how it's rewarded him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding)
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See:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=133540.msg1896388#msg1896388 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=133540.msg1896388#msg1896388)
Adonis contributes to Wikipedia. Look at how it's rewarded him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding)
thats pretty cool actually. :)
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Well, Adonis has finally achieved his lifetime goal of being known outside of a bodybuilding forum. ;D
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Adonis contributes to Wikipedia. Look at how it's rewarded him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding)
You need another heading under "areas of bodybuilding"
Along with Natural bodybuilding there is also "Clean" bodybuilding which usually refers to a person who has used illegal substances before and has now been clean for 2 or so years. There really is no clear definition between the two but it's been discussed on here before. Maybe you can get some other peoples definitions of Clean Vs Natural
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(i'm still reeling with laughter)...anyhow, yea DP, quality info to be found. Better than Flex or Muscle & Fitness... ::)
Looking into my crystal ball: I see Wikipedia contracting to a list of links organized by topic. No one will go there for information, no information will be posted. It will become a husk -- similar to the way GeoCities went. It will become another DMOZ -- organized, like I said before, in wiki-search and topic format.
Bodybuilders are better off making a MySpace, Bebo, Friendster (on the comeback), or Facebook page. Or all of them. With a nice little picture and some links for your wiki entry...and pray no one fucks with it in such a way as not to raise red flags (such as TA just did).
Wikipedia has over 1,681,333 articles on it's English language version alone. Over 552,000 articles on it's German version, Over 455,000 articles on it's French Version, Over 208,000 articles on it's Spanish Version, and it's Norwegian, Italian, Portuguese, Dutch and Polish versions all have over 200,000 articles.
Wikipedia is the 8th most visited website on the planet today. 11th in the last 3 months.
Wikipedia has over 6,000,000 views per day.
Wikipedia has over 3,808,942 registered user accounts.
Wikipedia is the most peer-reviewed publication publication on the planet.
A study by 'nature' concluded that Wikipedia and Encyclopædia Britannica had about the same rate of errors.
Although because Wikipedia is being changed 24/7 it's impossible to know at which point what you're reading is factual or not. Which is probably why it's not the best thing to source. However if you're simply a laymen starting to learn about a topic, Wikipedia is one of the best places to learn. Obviously you want to compare to sources but that's true for any source.
P.S. If you can provide a better free picture then I'll replace TrueAdonis' picture with the one you provide. Hey, Maybe one of yourself?
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See:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=133540.msg1896388#msg1896388 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=133540.msg1896388#msg1896388)
Adonis contributes to Wikipedia. Look at how it's rewarded him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=134039.0
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=134030.0
WOULD SOMEBODY PUT A REAL PICTURE OF A BODYBUILDER UP, JUST CLICK ON THE LINK.
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WOULD SOMEBODY PUT A REAL PICTURE OF A BODYBUILDER, JUST CLICK ON THE LINK.
man imagine all the true natural bodybuilders looking at wikkipedia, saying ''who the fuck is this guy, do you know him, what show he did!''
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Someone provide a picture of a natural bodybuilder (Maybe themselves) that they own the copyright to and I'll replace the TrueAdonis picture with that one. The only reason I've got the Adonis picture there is because there is no better free alternative.
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A lot of jealousy I see.
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True Anus being their example of a "bodybuilder" just shot to hell any credibility Wipikedia had.
That, and their claim that Markus Ruhl won the "Night of Queefs" in 2002! ;D
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Someone provide a picture of a natural bodybuilder (Maybe themselves) that they own the copyright to and I'll replace the TrueAdonis picture with that one. The only reason I've got the Adonis picture there is because there is no better free alternative.
Start with SKIP LACOR OR MIKE OHERN, don't ever let that happen again.
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Start with SKIP LACOR OR MIKE OHERN, don't ever let that happen again.
I can't. I already explained why.
Moreover, If you really want me to do something for you then you need to start helping me out. E-mail some Pro bodybuilders and if they can provide you images to use in their Bodybuilder articles.
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I can't. I already explained why.
Moreover, If you really want me to do something for you then you need to start helping me out. E-mail some Pro bodybuilders and if they can provide you images to use in their Bodybuilder articles.
ask in the natural board, there is someone there, ask for a pic.................. a real pro!!!
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ask in the natural board, there is someone there, ask for a pic.................. a real pro!!!
If you want the picture removed then you find me another free one. I'm not going to waste time looking just because you don't like it.
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well, i don't like it :-\
we ALL don't like it >:(
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So do something about it.
Help me find free pictures for the Pro-Bodybuilder articles. PM the pro's on this site and ask them if they will post a copyright free picture here. Or E-mail them and ask them if they will provide you one via E-mail that YOU can post here for me.
They are all just jealous.
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their is a lot of real natural pro bodybuilders outhere, don't you think they should have their picture before you adam?
this is not jalousy, its how it should be!!!
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their is a lot of real natural pro bodybuilders outhere, don't you think they should have their picture before you adam?
this is not jalousy, its how it should be!!!
I am a great Lifetime Natural Bodybuilder, no reason not to have me featured on there.
I assume you don`t even compare, hence the reluctance to send your own picture.
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I am a great Lifetime Natural Bodybuilder, no reason not to have me featured on there.
I assume you don`t even compare, hence the reluctance to send your own picture.
you are not a pro!
and i don't need to compare, my ego is ok! ............. a lot of other natural pro look much much much ''did i said much....... yessss'' than you!!!
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you are not a pro!
and i don't need to compare, my ego is ok! ............. a lot of other natural pro look much much much ''did i said much....... yessss'' than you!!!
Do you look better though? Just a question.
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are you trying to get into me adam......... won't work, and frankly i don't give a shit!!!
i never said i was like a pro!!!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding
I took down his picture on wikipedia. let this thread die.
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Awesome picture.
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It was announced in a private meeting with BodyStars that because Vince McMahon was under federal suspicion for steroid distribution, the second competition would have to be drug-free. Former television personality and bodybuilder Lou Ferrigno had just signed with the WBF and immediately left the company upon hearing this news.
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It was announced in a private meeting with BodyStars that because Vince McMahon was under federal suspicion for steroid distribution, the second competition would have to be drug-free. Former television personality and bodybuilder Lou Ferrigno had just signed with the WBF and immediately left the company upon hearing this news.
LOL, you mean big lou couldn't come in at more then 215 without gear?
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Awesome picture.
LMAO
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That is very right.
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Which mod is protecting TA so much today? ???
Perhaps people are tired of the jealousy.
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Ha ha ha ha...it's gonna be real interesting when that Wikipedia bodybuilding article essentially unfolds into the best online, open-source World Anabolic Review we've ever had access to. ;D
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Scroll down??? and?
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The picture is still there. The person who took it down claimed the reason was that the person in it "isn't natural". This isn't valid. You need to provide proof that the person isn't natural. (On the talkpage of the article). The image will stay up until then. If you keep trying to remove it it's considered vandalism and you could be banned.
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There should be a pic of Apenis on their just to have a comical view and to show people what a concentration camp survivor looks like.
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hahaha you put a picture of a guy who used to take roids and isn't even a bodybuilder and looks like shit. Good job. It shows you know nothing
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding
Just goes to show ya ANYONE can put ANYTHING on it.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding
Just goes to show ya ANYONE can put ANYTHING on it.
yea...
I think thats kinda what the idear is :-\
you're allowed to edit if u want ;)
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some pages are blocked from editing due to vandalism
i used to have fun with a certain radio stations page for a while
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Nbodybuilder.jpg
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They get it right sometimes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Karate_Kid
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They get it right sometimes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Karate_Kid
why'd u name that "kkk" ;D
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Treat Wikipedia like you treat any research material...BEcayse all of it is edited by people...If it isnt cited then dont give it too much credit.
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why'd u name that "kkk" ;D
Oops, I meant to name it KK.
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hahahha, seeing Adonis's picture up under natural bodybuilder was classic. Brilliant!!!!
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Treat Wikipedia like you treat any research material...BEcayse all of it is edited by people...If it isnt cited then dont give it too much credit.
Good point, mal. In any research, use as many references as you can and use reasoned skepticism.
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Good point, mal. In any research, use as many references as you can and use reasoned skepticism.
Exactly...we can sift through the bs...and even if its not on wikipedia and on something else it still needs sources.
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"The person in the picture of a "natural bodybuilder posing" clearly shows the idea of bodybuilding: it doesn't matter if your face look like if you've been hit with a brick, you just try to make the most out of your body."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding#Sport
:o :o :o
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I remember when some clown made a wikipedia about me. Those were the days. ::)
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ANYONE can put ANYTHING on it.
HAHA
What a revelation! A "wiki" site, allows anyone to post on it! Amazing. lol
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They get it right sometimes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Karate_Kid
Funny I just took it out on video!
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Yes and no. Textbooks, journals, thesis docs, etc... are generally (always?) written by an expert...biased/mistaken or not, they'll have a very high percentage of accuate information.
Wiki? Fuxk. Any douche can add/edit it. TA could go up and write a whole thing about "Proper Bodybuilding Nutrition" and say that McDonalds and Ben & Jerrys are staples. No one will know the difference until someone (a person who actaully cares to go through the steps, and who knows) flags it -- even then it'll wait for a mod -- and even then, the mod can only blank it out (not replace it w/ correct info)...or they have to edit it themselves.
Wiki is stupid. The people who made it are stupid billiant (idiot savants).
Wikipedia is a brilliant idea.
It works since most of the contributors to it are genuine.
One would think that Wiki would be sabotaged by trolls, but as a matter of fact, when Brittanica Encyclopaedia and Wikipedia were tested against each other a year ago, Wikipedia more than held its own.
Once in awhile, you'll see an article or a topic being messed with, but the absolute majority of people are honest.
To be honest, I feel sorry for Abeles. Did someone upload that picture to make it look like he's delusional?
-Hedge
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What is Adonis doing in Wikipedia??
And why is there talk about steroids referring to his pic, i thought he was natural? :o
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Alright I think I may stand corrected here. Maybe it takes alot more interested readership to keep the information accurate on Wikipedia. Probably given an infinite number of people who could contribute, the facts might stay somewhat straight. But maybe bodybuilding is too isolated of an interest for the information not to be too regularly corrupted to be taken seriously. Which articles qualify to be locked so that they can't be vandalized? Recently I read where credit was given to Wikipedia for keeping the Anna Nicole articles relatively reliable during the days following her passing, but I guess there are going to be alot more responsible people watching over that sort of thing though.
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Yes and no. Textbooks, journals, thesis docs, etc... are generally (always?) written by an expert...biased/mistaken or not, they'll have a very high percentage of accuate information.
Agree. But even tho it may be peer-reviewed etc., at the end of the day it is just one perspective so use lots of such sources to do your research.
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I think I am a great Lifetime Natural Bodybuilder.
Such a shame that most are jealous.
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I think I am a great Lifetime Natural Bodybuilder.
Such a shame that most are jealous.
So you ARE natural? Thought so....
BTW, did YOU put that pic of you on wikipedia? Just curious...
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So you ARE natural? Thought so....
BTW, did YOU put that pic of you on wikipedia? Just curious...
Lifetime Natural. I am featured for a good reason. People need to see what a true Lifetime Natural bodybuilder looks like.
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amazing how long it took most of you to realize that Adonis's picture was up there. Did you think it was Steve Reeves?
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Alright I think I may stand corrected here. Maybe it takes alot more interested readership to keep the information accurate on Wikipedia. Probably given an infinite number of people who could contribute, the facts might stay somewhat straight. But maybe bodybuilding is too isolated of an interest for the information not to be too regularly corrupted to be taken seriously. Which articles qualify to be locked so that they can't be vandalized? Recently I read where credit was given to Wikipedia for keeping the Anna Nicole articles relatively reliable during the days following her passing, but I guess there are going to be alot more responsible people watching over that sort of thing though.
I think the uproar something like this creates is a perfect example of the excellence of wikipedia.
Perhaps this will result in corrections (several) of the faulty information and in the end a different picture. Perhaps a picture of Chris Thomas.
I am by no means an expert of Wikipedia, but as it happens, I went to a seminar on Wikipedia and how it has developed the other day.
Quite interesting, and the take-home message was somehow that most of the internet users want correct information on the net, and take pride in not writing BS. Ie, most articles are correct from the beginning, and they're only improved, not corrected.
-Hedge
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding
Just goes to show ya ANYONE can put ANYTHING on it.
Epic jealousy
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I think the uproar something like this creates is a perfect example of the excellence of wikipedia.
Perhaps this will result in corrections (several) of the faulty information and in the end a different picture. Perhaps a picture of Chris Thomas.
I am by no means an expert of Wikipedia, but as it happens, I went to a seminar on Wikipedia and how it has developed the other day.
Quite interesting, and the take-home message was somehow that most of the internet users want correct information on the net, and take pride in not writing BS. Ie, most articles are correct from the beginning, and they're only improved, not corrected.
-Hedge
Interesting. Maybe after this initial surge in interest passes, things will tend to sort themselves out over there.
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Epic jealousy
Indeed.
Its coming out of their ears and fingertips.
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TA could go up and write a whole thing about "Proper Bodybuilding Nutrition" and say that McDonalds and Ben & Jerrys are staples.
Don't give him any ideas. :)
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Now that is funny. ;D
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Wikipedia is a brilliant idea.
It works since most of the contributors to it are genuine.
One would think that Wiki would be sabotaged by trolls, but as a matter of fact, when Brittanica Encyclopaedia and Wikipedia were tested against each other a year ago, Wikipedia more than held its own.
Once in awhile, you'll see an article or a topic being messed with, but the absolute majority of people are honest.
To be honest, I feel sorry for Abeles. Did someone upload that picture to make it look like he's delusional?
-Hedge
Actually, Wikipedia has been shown to be more reliable that Brittanica due to it being available for anyone to update.
For instance... I read something, I know it's wrong... I cite a reference on why it's wrong and it's corrected... Also, if something changes, it can be updated in real time... With a normal encyclopedia, you will have to buy a new volume to get the latest content.
Wikipedia is quite a fantastic resource... Let's face it though, if you're doing a thesis or something of that nature, you have to have NUMEROUS sources to support your theory... Wikipedia won't get you a Master's degree by any stretch.
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I think I am a great Lifetime Natural Bodybuilder.
Such a shame that most are jealous.
LOL. Perhaps it's maybe that most of us have a modicum of humility. :)
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the great princess decided to praise us with her presence, you couldnt resist could you
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GeoCities was the most massive entity on the planet for a while...
1. No it wasn't.
2. The users went sour after Yahoo bought it and brought in new terms of service and then they left en masse.
3. Geocities was popular in the mid 90's when it wasn't as easy to make personal web pages. As technology improved people moved on.
4. None of these compare to wikipedia. Wikipedia not only will never be sold because of the personal philosophy of it's owner (Jimbo Wales) but also because Mr. Wales is a self made billionaire. If however something unimaginable happens and "wikipedia.org" does get sold or shuts down then since the technology is free another person (or group) will take it's place. There are currently hundreds of separate "wikis" on the web that use the same technology as Wikipedia.org so it would be easy.
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All of the articles that were vandalized by the people who read this thread were all reverted within seconds. The "Bodybuilding" article was corrected. The "karate kid" article was corrected. Etc.
Just goes to show how hypocritical some people are. They attack Wikipedia as having no credibility while at the same time they make efforts to undermine it's credibility with vandalism.
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I remember Adonis saying he isn't a bodybuilder tho :-\
so he shouldn't be listed as one
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OMFG. I thought adonis was a loser before, but this takes the cake..
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http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/The_True_Adonis
Adonis updated
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Um, yes it was. Get your facts straight. It was bigger than Yahoo, Alta Vista, etc.
Nope. Compare it to Yahoo.com
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=Geocities.com (http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=Geocities.com)
Um, no. It went sour because better alternatives appeared and it was a negative income property.
Yahoo!'s acquisition of Geocities.com occurred in the late 90's and that's when it started loosing traffic. This is when Yahoo decided that sign up would be free but it was too late.
http://www.forbes.com/2001/08/28/0828yahoo.html (http://www.forbes.com/2001/08/28/0828yahoo.html)
hahaha, oh right. So then why are they practically begging for cash to keep the doors open? Or was that recent announcement saying they were inches from closing down just a bunch of bullshit? [/url]
No such announcement occurred. There was a recent donation drive that went very well and earned something like 1 million U.S.
You misunderstand, oh religous zealot -- the software works fine. Yey. The concept is flawed. So lets imagine that there are 10mil wiki sites -- big deal. Unless they are behind a firewall and internally controlled (like some companies I know of), they'll be vanalized. End of story. Wikipedia is flawed at its core because Jimbos vision of human nature is skewed. Why are you arguing this point -- it's been made blatantly clear multiple times just in the course of this thread. ::)[/url]
Vandalism isn't a problem. Try vandalizing any Wikipedia page. Most are reverted within a few seconds. The more visited ones even faster than that. The main page for instance, if you were to vandalize it it would be reverted in a fraction of a second. Literally. Vandalism is hardly a major problem for Wikipedia.
Jimbo can continue pumping $ into it for all I care. That does not change the fact that it's a flawed implementation.
Not at all.
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Pro's? Anyone home?
Stop being so pushy you little bitch.
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I agree. That is why I said they are idiot savants. Brilliant guys, wonderful concept -- on paper.
No fucken clue about human nature -- or they chose to act like an ostrich and bury their heads.
Who are you trying to convince with name calling?
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aaaaaaaahahhaa, you are truly amusing. Do you know what an idiot savant is? It's not "name calling".
"Idiot savant" is the historical and obsolete term used for "autistic savants". Calling someone this is an insult of sorts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autistic_savant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autistic_savant)
And you pulling up alexa data from today to compare yahoo vs/ geocities is another nice retard move. Geocities used to be huge. Key word (throughout my writings) is: used.
If you had clicked on the site you would of seen that the graph shows a timespan of several years. Yahoo.com was literally hundreds of times more popular than geocities.com ever was.
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Just goes to show how hypocritical some people are. They attack Wikipedia as having no credibility while at the same time they make efforts to undermine it's credibility with vandalism.
the great princess decided to praise us with her presence, you couldnt resist could you
Sorry, I did not realize there was an ongoing effort to lend some credibility to the topic.
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Pro's? Anyone home?
You may want to talk to me... im pretty famous; i keep bodybuilding alive.
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Really?
Yes...i will bring instant credibility to your articles; I'm a role model around here.
If your also covering the less talked about issues such as 'gay for pay' you may want to get in contact with 'derek anthony' and explore them 'avenues' with him.
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Wikidudeman in his infinite wisdom thinks adonis is the face of Natural Bodybuilding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding. Prove him wrong there are so many more athlets out there, that deserve to have their face associated with the sport.
The natural competers on GB need to send him a photo with no copywrite so he can replace the photo up there now.
Wikidudeman@yahoo.com
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Lifetime Natural. I am featured for a good reason. People need to see what a true Lifetime Natural bodybuilder looks like.
To help them decide on their first cycle?
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Wikidudeman in his infinite wisdom thinks Adonis is the face of Natural Bodybuilding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding. Prove him wrong there are so many more athletes out there, that deserve to have their face associated with the sport.
The natural competers on GB need to send him a photo with no copywrite so he can replace the photo up there now.
Wikidudeman@yahoo.com
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I've been trying to get people's help for 8 pages. No one's paying attention to this thread. I doubt a bold red font will make any difference.
But knock yourself out.
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Now you have to tell him, he can use this picture. Take one with you face it would be better or a contest picture and let him know your not on drugs.
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The picture I have on there is better because it's more 'generalized' and it shows his face. Yours looks like an amateur photograph. Take another showing your face with a pure background and I might replace it.
naw i don't want you to replace that picture.
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Wikidudeman in his infinite wisdom thinks adonis is the face of Natural Bodybuilding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding. Prove him wrong there are so many more athlets out there, that deserve to have their face associated with the sport.
The natural competers on GB need to send him a photo with no copywrite so he can replace the photo up there now.
Wikidudeman@yahoo.com
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Wikidudeman in his infinite wisdom thinks adonis is the face of Natural Bodybuilding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding. Prove him wrong there are so many more athlets out there, that deserve to have their face associated with the sport.
The natural competers on GB need to send him a photo with no copywrite so he can replace the photo up there now.
Wikidudeman@yahoo.com
GUYS SHOW HIM WHATS UP!!
Why don't you, you little bitch?
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So why did you post yours?
because i was thinking you would include it with the other picture, not replace that one.
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Wikidudeman in his infinite wisdom thinks adonis is the face of Natural Bodybuilding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding. Prove him wrong there are so many more athlets out there, that deserve to have their face associated with the sport.
The natural competers on GB need to send him a photo with no copywrite so he can replace the photo up there now.
Wikidudeman@yahoo.com
GUYS SHOW HIM WHATS UP!!
I already told you that this won't work. No one's even reading this thread. Why don't you PM some of them and ask for their pictures yourself?
P.S.Try using spell check.
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I have contacted a few Pros and I have gotten a few responses.
What kind of contact info can I provide them? PM me.
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Well, it's been a good run folks. The little skinny asshole with the wild claims and the ridiculous lying, and crule hatful demenor has been around and giving us a post to whip for a while now. However, I've grown board of the volleying. There is no point to keeping him around any longer. Posting private personal information on GetBig about Dave Palumbo's account and lying about me with respect to what I knew he knew, can be looked at as nothing but subversive. He is clearly an enemy of MD and that, as per the MD board rules, is grounds to shit can the worthless asshole. He has been warned numerous times, we have given in to his pleas, and his incessant cries to Dave to please get me off his back, and to let him show us how much he can do for MD. All bullshit and nothing worth the band width he occupies. Good-bye Adam. As far as fucking retards go, you win the academy award. As soon as Admin gets into the office he has instructions to pull the chain and flush your worthless punk ass down the toilet.
Anyone wishing it, I have TA's home address and phone number. Just PM me if you'd like to send your condolances.
Also, I'm calling Ron first thing in the morning and discuss TA's future on GetBig. Ron and I have an agreement and I'm better than sure he will go along with my recommendation, especially in light of the recent activities and the implications to GetBig.
This is going to send the world's skinniest jerk-off into an epic tail spin with arms flailing at his last ditch posts to save his worthless ass. Tune in folks, you're in for a treat - the last desperate gasps of the True Anus are about to be sucked down his skinny neck. A year from now no one will remember who or what he was.
If any of you find this action uncalled for, I respect your opinion as well as whatever action you take. However, the fact remains that he has represented himself in the light he has and now it is time to put him where he belongs and push the button
The word's most epic meltdown is about to begin.
So long dick head!
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whoever edit the Wikipedia and post a clown pic on it is an idiot and does not know SHIT about bodybuilding.
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Well, it's been a good run folks. The little skinny asshole with the wild claims and the ridiculous lying, and crule hatful demenor has been around and giving us a post to whip for a while now. However, I've grown board of the volleying. There is no point to keeping him around any longer. Posting private personal information on GetBig about Dave Palumbo's account and lying about me with respect to what I knew he knew, can be looked at as nothing but subversive. He is clearly an enemy of MD and that, as per the MD board rules, is grounds to shit can the worthless asshole. He has been warned numerous times, we have given in to his pleas, and his incessant cries to Dave to please get me off his back, and to let him show us how much he can do for MD. All bullshit and nothing worth the band width he occupies. Good-bye Adam. As far as fucking retards go, you win the academy award. As soon as Admin gets into the office he has instructions to pull the chain and flush your worthless punk ass down the toilet.
Anyone wishing it, I have TA's home address and phone number. Just PM me if you'd like to send your condolances.
Also, I'm calling Ron first thing in the morning and discuss TA's future on GetBig. Ron and I have an agreement and I'm better than sure he will go along with my recommendation, especially in light of the recent activities and the implications to GetBig.
This is going to send the world's skinniest jerk-off into an epic tail spin with arms flailing at his last ditch posts to save his worthless ass. Tune in folks, you're in for a treat - the last desperate gasps of the True Anus are about to be sucked down his skinny neck. A year from now no one will remember who or what he was.
If any of you find this action uncalled for, I respect your opinion as well as whatever action you take. However, the fact remains that he has represented himself in the light he has and now it is time to put him where he belongs and push the button
The word's most epic meltdown is about to begin.
So long dick head!
Sociopath:
Someone whose social behavior is extremely abnormal. Sociopaths are interested only in their personal needs and desires, without concern for the effects of their behavior on others.
Make no mistake............this represents the psychological profile of Adonis IMO.
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I've been trying to get people's help for 8 pages. No one's paying attention to this thread.
I've had a wiki on musclememory.com for many years, can't get anyone to contribute, except the spammers
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Word is Dexter Jackson is an Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle impersonater in the offseason...
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I would like to help.
Discuss.
E-mail professionals (Or PM them) and tell them to read the first post of this thread (and to ignore everything else). Tell them that if they want to help improve their own wikipedia articles then ask them to post an image they took of themselves in this thread and release all copyright to me so that I can put it on wikipedia.
Also ask them to post here to say if they are interested or not in correcting their own wikipedia profiles. Proof-reading it to let me know if any errors that I can correct. Such as DOB or competition wins etc.
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I've had a wiki on musclememory.com for many years, can't get anyone to contribute, except the spammers
There is no wiki article for 'musclememory.com'. I just looked. It must of been deleted sometime in the distant past because I don't remember one ever existing. You could try making it again and I'll make sure it doesn't get erased.
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There is no wiki article for 'musclememory.com'. I just looked. It must of been deleted sometime in the distant past because I don't remember one ever existing. You could try making it again and I'll make sure it doesn't get erased.
not on wikipedia, on musclememory.com
the wiki software is open source and is used on hundreds or perhaps thousands of websites. wiki is just a way to allow users to contribute.
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Wikidudeman in his lacking infinite wisdom thought Adonis was the face of Natural Bodybuilding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding. Prove him wrong there are so many more athletes out there, that deserve to have their face associated with the sport.
The natural competers on GB need to send him a photo with no copywrite so he can replace the photo up there now. Let him know your not on drugs and that you are indeed natural.
Wikidudeman@yahoo.com
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Hahaha, "Wikidudeman" just happens to put TA's picture up.
Yeah right.
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all pictures in magazines prior to 1975 are in the public domain
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I think by now we all know 'wikidudeman' is one of TA's online personalities...
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I think by now we all know 'wikidudeman' is one of TA's online personalities...
Motherfuc#er's like Sybil!
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It's a riot that Adonis has his picture up there, lol.
fact - gore
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The only pictures that were posted were pictures either intended as jokes or pictures of people without heads which don't look as good in the article.
I would choose those pictures of people with no heads over TA's pic ::)
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A month later and nobody helped Mr. Wikipedia out. This Adonis character is still representing bodybuilders without ever being an actual competitor.