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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The True Adonis on March 09, 2007, 08:53:20 PM
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He got to the meat of his argument
'Chazz' Weaver ate only fast food for 30 days, challenging assumptions about diet.
By BRIAN MARTINEZ
The Orange County Register
COSTA MESA – Charles "Chazz" Weaver on Friday completed his monthlong McDonald's-only experiment, claimed he lost 8 pounds in the project, and challenged the creator of the "Super Size Me" film to a public debate on obesity and fast food.
Weaver, 48, ate nothing but McDonald's fare for 30 consecutive days – every menu item at least once – to prove that staying thin is about calorie intake and exercise. His credentials are his fit body, 19 years of studying fitness as a hobby, and helping friends lose weight.
"I am not an advocate of fast food as a lifestyle, but neither do you have to be on a so- called diet," he said.
His strength and energy have not diminished and he hasn't had negative effects, he said.
"Not even a headache or a mood swing," he said.
Statistics detailing 30-day experiment
Weight: 222 pounds on Day 1 and 214 pounds on Day 30
Blood pressure: 111/78 on Day 1 and 121/81 on Day 30
Cholesterol: 208 at the start of the project; he will retest today and should have results on his Web site by Monday
The last meal: Friday, April 30, 4:30 p.m. Big Mac, Double Cheeseburger, 6-piece Chicken McNuggets, snack-size Fruit & Yogurt Parfait, medium Diet Coke – total calories: 1,550
Media interviews: 50-75, mostly for radio talk shows
Exercise: 25-30 minutes of cardio training and 50-60 minutes of strength training, six days a week
Verification: A witness was present to videotape meals.
Calories: Started at 3,500 daily calories but has fluctuated as high as 5,700. He warns that this amount is tailored for his body and exercise regimen and is not for a typical person. Before starting the challenge, he used protein shakes and bars but no other supplements.
Favorite item: McGriddle breakfast sandwich
Least favorite item: The ice cream
Seminar: Weaver will give a free fitness seminar and a report on his 30-day challenge today at Triangle Square, 1870 Harbor Blvd., Costa Mesa, from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m.
The Costa Mesa resident is fed up with Americans who don't take responsibility for being out of shape, fitness entrepreneurs who make a living on incomplete information, and overweight nutrition scholars who don't "walk the walk," he said. He hopes the project will inspire people to research fitness and help them lose weight.
He got the idea for his experiment after reading about and taking exception to the documentary, "Super Size Me," which records the deterioration of filmmaker Morgan Spurlock's health. Spurlock ate almost as many calories as Weaver, but his only exercise was walking the same amount of steps as the average American.
"I think its great that Chazz is attempting to stay fit," Spurlock said through a spokesman Friday. "The underlying theme in my film is to try to increase personal and corporate responsibility."
He declined to respond to Weaver's debate challenge.
At least five people have taken up experiments such as Weaver's, McDonald's spokesman Walt Riker said. He said the company has no connection with them or Weaver.
"There seems to be a grass- roots backlash against the outrageous misbehavior in Spurlock's film," Riker said. "Stuffing yourself and not exercising is irresponsible."
Weaver said he has spent about $13,000 of his own money on the project.
"I'm looking for the psychic benefit," he said. "Doing something good for people is really pleasurable."
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Costa Mesa, CA (WFN) -- A Costa Mesa, California, man has just ended a 30-day "McDiet," just as healthy as he was when he started.
Chazz Weaver, an economist, took the challenge of eating only McDonalds' food for 30 days to refute Morgan Spurlock's documentary "Supersize Me" -- which shows the filmmaker packing on the fat after eating only at McDonald's.
Weaver lost six pounds of fat on his diet and did not lose any muscle mass or strength. He's still waiting for the results of his cholesterol test.
He thinks he had success on the McDiet because he maintained an exercise routine that burned the calories he ate, something he says Spurlock did not do.
Weaver says his results prove that Spurlock did the same thing he accused McDonalds of doing: using misinformation to profit off the public.
During the diet Weaver was asked what his first post- McDonalds meal would be, and, after thinking it over for a long time, on Saturday (May 1) he went to McDonalds for breakfast.
A documentary of his experience is in the works.
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Here is Chazz`s Website.
https://www.chazzweaver.com/Home_Page.php
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This does not work for adding muscle.
It is useless.
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Doubters = pwned
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Nice way to prove a fact. A calorie is a calorie, the source is up to you as long as you get enough carbs and some protein, you are set!
Chicken breast and rice every day? Sad...
BTW this guy downed between 3500 to 5700 calories per day in fast food. It's all about weekly average and energy expendure.
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You suck! Boo!
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Nice way to prove a fact. A calorie is a calorie, the source is up to you as long as you get enough carbs and some protein, you are set!
Chicken breast and rice every day? Sad...
BTW this guy downed between 3500 to 5700 calories per day in fast food. It's all about weekly average and energy expendure.
Exactly my friend.
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This does not work for adding muscle.
It is useless.
amen
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amen
Completly wrong.
You can add muscle just as fast.
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A calorie is a calorie in which sense:
1. Adding muscle or
2. Lowering fat.
Speak on this.
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I would never trust a guy named "Chazz" but otherwise I see no suprise with his outcome. I was eating mcdonalds at least once a day for lunch on top of my regular lunch when I was working construction across the street. I'd buy at least 2 big macs sometimes 3 while I was trying to put on some weight cause believe me you burn alot outdoors. All in all if you burn the calories you put in the outcome will remain the same and you will not gain fat. It does affect blood pressure though (at least it did for me) but it wasn't an extreme case.
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A calorie is a calorie in which sense:
1. Adding muscle or
2. Lowering fat.
Speak on this.
A calorie is a calorie in all sense.
1 Calorie=1 Calorie of any substance.
When it comes to food, you should not overeat even when trying to gain muscle.
In any normal diet, you will be adequately fueled nutrient wise to build muscle or lose fat.
You would have to try your HARDEST to not meet nutritional needs. Its not feasible.
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conveniently waited for his cholesterol test until after the press release
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Too bad people in today's world think that there are "magic diet pills" instead of a little hard work.
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wow thats pretty cool.... I didnt even know, right in my own back yard
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I guess this would definitely prove the convenience and economical aspects of your principles, Adonis.
You can't beat the dollar menu.
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Good post. These bodybuilders who eat the same foods every day probably have developed food allergies to those foods. Not to mention boring ass lives. Every day...chicken and rice. Bah! Who wants to do that? Eating is one of life's great pleasures.
I'd like to see the results of this guy's cholesterol test though.
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TA, you should get this guy to post here so we can hear more about his philosophies
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Morgan Spurlock didn't exercise during his diet, that was kinda the odea, to be just like the average American, although, being a vegan before the fact definately didn't help his body any. I see no problem with eating fast food, hell, just had 30 White Castle sliders tonight, which...I was very happy about since we have no White Castles in Arkansas so a friend had driven up north, bought a boat load and was kind enough to pick up an order for me. Nothing wrong with fast food, being a lazy jackass seems like the problem.
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This is the thread of the week, perhaps the month.
The Great One Himself has been vindicated.
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This is the thread of the week, perhaps the month.
The Great One Himself has been vindicated.
Damn straight, I'm on a fast food high and foresee no ill effects. I'll be damned if he wasn't right.
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This is the thread of the week, perhaps the month.
The Great One Himself has been vindicated.
This is indeed priceless..
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This fag trains at my gym, he didn't prove anything exept what we already new before, what he didn't tell you is that Spurlock was a vegan and putting that into his body would fuck anyone up...DUH!!
It also tells you that when your body is clean and you introduce processed foods, that will also fuck up your body. Congrats Adam, your diet principals and full of pollution!
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Great job APenis. You have now proved your theory on one guy out of 50 million. Your odds are looking up for that breakthru you are looking for. You are da man. Now you can go to your reunion with your head up. No more being made fun of for being the school dork. You shoudl feel proud. And tell all your other accounts the same thing for me.
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Great job APenis. You have now proved your theory on one guy out of 50 million. Your odds are looking up for that breakthru you are looking for. You are da man. Now you can go to your reunion with your head up. No more being made fun of for being the school dork. You shoudl feel proud. And tell all your other accounts the same thing for me.
How is your diet coming, Keith?
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Your full of shit boy and thats all you'll ever have.
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This fag trains at my gym, he didn't prove anything exept what we already new before, what he didn't tell you is that Spurlock was a vegan and putting that into his body would fuck anyone up...DUH!!
It also tells you that when your body is clean and you introduce processed foods, that will also fuck up your body. Congrats Adam, your diet principals and full of pollution!
Joe is an idiot. He believes in angels, fairys and thinks Unicorns grazed in fields with people and Dinosaurs. Sorry, but you cannot take any Creationist serious when their level of intelligence regarding Science stops at a 1st grade level. With his creationist view on the world, he believes that, the sun, solar system, the ENTIRE UNIVERSE was created, AFTER the domestication of the dog. That speaks volumes of his intelligence or lack thereof.
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Furthermore Joe(Mr. Intenseone) and ONLYME,
Chazz is not only a lifetime natural, he also looks better than the both of you.
I feel sorry that the two of you have lived this long being so unintelligent.
When did the ability to think for yourself and to be rational leave your collective conciousness?
I hope you guys get it back one day.
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www.truthinfitness.org
to learn more
Okay, here are the results:
Weight – I started at 222lbs and in thirty days I dropped 8lbs of “body fat”, ending the thirty days at 214lbs.
Blood Pressure - I started at 111/71, a bit low, and ended the thirty days at 121/81 which is optimal.
Cholesterol – this is where you need to understand about cholesterol!
My HDL (the good cholesterol) improved 80%.
My LDL (the bad cholesterol) went down 2 points. That’s an improvement!
My overall cholesterol went up 6% because of my HDL improvement, however this is an improvement overall.
My Triglycerides improved 42%
(http://www.truthinfitness.org/images/2004_04_30c.jpg)
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http://www.truthinfitness.org/projects/mcDonalds/journal.html
There you can find a complete Journal.
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Hello. I want to thank you very much for visiting Truth In Fitness. I feel honored that you’ve taken time out of your busy schedule to visit this website. For those of you who don’t already know who I am, allow me to introduce myself. My name is Chazz Weaver . I’m a 48 year old economist with my master’s degree. However, nutrition and fitness has been a passion of mine for the past 19 years. During the past 19 years I’ve done extensive research regarding health and fitness and applied my findings to my own lifestyle as well as coached others in their own quest for weight loss. So, let me start at the beginning and give you some background information on why I’ve embarked on the “McDonald’s Diet” project.
For years I’ve been concerned about the mountain of misinformation that the health and fitness industry places before the public in order to make a profit selling their goods and services. We’ve all seen the ads for diet plans, exercise equipment, gym memberships and personal trainers that claim by using their particular product or service you will “in no time” be looking like Mr. or Mrs. America. Or the industry experts that spew out facts and figures about how to achieve weight loss, when they themselves are generally overweight. All of this misinformation leaves the general public with only bits and pieces of the entire picture.
I’ve seen so many people pointing fingers at the fast food industry, placing blame on them for the acceleration of obesity in America, instead of taking personal accountability for their problems. And after reading about Morgan Spurlock’s documentary “Supersize Me” I just knew it was time to put all the pieces of the puzzle together and help educate the public about the real picture of health and fitness.
The following journal is a daily account of my 30 day journey through the golden arches of fast food. I will be eating McDonald’s food, and only McDonald’s food, for the next 30 day’s. My objective is to prove that through proper caloric intake and exercise (aerobic & anaerobic) it’s possible to eat a variety of foods, including fast food, without gaining fat. Please be aware that I am not advocating fast food as a lifestyle. I am merely demonstrating that it is possible, that with proper information and education, to eat McDonald’s food for 30 day’s and not gain any fat. I will be eating everything on the menu at least once during the 30 day’s and will not be making alterations or adjustments to the items. Every day will be documented by means of video tape, signed statements from witnesses at every meal, receipts collected from every meal which list exact items purchased and have a time and date stamp.
I hope you’ll be able to join me for a free health and fitness seminar on May 1, 2004 from 11 am – 1 pm at Triangle Square located in the heart of Costa Mesa. I will be discussing my experience during the McDonald’s 30-day challenge and reflect on the following three components of fitness: The human body and its efficiency; how the human body uses calories (proteins, carbohydrates and fat); and why people need to exercise in order to have a better quality of life.
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the problem with mac or any fast food is the trans fat, that stuff will make you have heart attacks
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the problem with mac or any fast food is the trans fat, that stuff will make you have heart attacks
Myth and a Lie.
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I agree that a calorie is a calorie and calorie in vs calorie out will ultimately determine your success at losing weight. ..but there is still the issue of sodium and cholesterol.
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I agree that a calorie is a calorie and calorie in vs calorie out will ultimately determine your success at losing weight. ..but there is still the issue of sodium and cholesterol.
Again.
www.truthinfitness.org
to learn more
Okay, here are the results:
Weight – I started at 222lbs and in thirty days I dropped 8lbs of “body fat”, ending the thirty days at 214lbs.
Blood Pressure - I started at 111/71, a bit low, and ended the thirty days at 121/81 which is optimal.
Cholesterol – this is where you need to understand about cholesterol!
My HDL (the good cholesterol) improved 80%.
My LDL (the bad cholesterol) went down 2 points. That’s an improvement!
My overall cholesterol went up 6% because of my HDL improvement, however this is an improvement overall.
My Triglycerides improved 42%
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When it comes to food, you should not overeat even when trying to gain muscle.
In any normal diet, you will be adequately fueled nutrient wise to build muscle or lose fat.
You would have to try your HARDEST to not meet nutritional needs. Its not feasible.
How do you explain the millions of people around Chazz Weaver's age and younger, who bust their ass in the gym, eat a regular 3-4 meals a day and still look like shit?
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This fag trains at my gym, he didn't prove anything exept what we already new before, what he didn't tell you is that Spurlock was a vegan and putting that into his body would fuck anyone up...DUH!!
It also tells you that when your body is clean and you introduce processed foods, that will also fuck up your body. Congrats Adam, your diet principals and full of pollution!
legendary meltdown
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How do you explain the millions of people around Chazz Weaver's age and younger, who bust their ass in the gym, eat a regular 3-4 meals a day and still look like shit?
legendary 'hitting the wall' with progress, epic giving up
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legendary 'hitting the wall' with progress, epic giving up
What? I'm talking about people who go day after day, year after year on a "normal" diet (in my terms) and make no noticable changes.
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Monster fitness trainer who did this for publicity.
Epic cardio and weightlifting regimen to stay in shape during the "diet".
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What? I'm talking about people who go day after day, year after year on a "normal" diet (in my terms) and make no noticable changes.
usually these are the people who train with epic shitty intensity, eat too much, do no cardio
its all about what goes in and how much they burn off
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this is interesting stuff, but in defense of Morgan Spurlocks film, the average American does not exercise as much as Chazz, and its great the he wants to, but the average working American just wont have time or energy to devote to going to the gym. Single Moms, over worked Dads...to expect them to burn off each and every calorie they eat is unrealistic.
So Morgan Spurlock was pointing out how if the average working American who exercises moderately eats McDonald's on a steady basis, they will get fat...and that is true. The movie was not about exercise, it was about whats in food and trying to wake people up to the enormous amount of calories they are consuming. The film was not about spending hours in the gym because for most people that is not realistic.
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I would never trust a guy named "Chazz" but otherwise I see no suprise with his outcome. I was eating mcdonalds at least once a day for lunch on top of my regular lunch when I was working construction across the street. I'd buy at least 2 big macs sometimes 3 while I was trying to put on some weight cause believe me you burn alot outdoors. All in all if you burn the calories you put in the outcome will remain the same and you will not gain fat. It does affect blood pressure though (at least it did for me) but it wasn't an extreme case.
You can never go wrong with Chazz Palmiteri - great actor, former doorman and writer of "A Bronx Tale"!
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BTW, ....'Wolfgang' was known to spend his spare time in the 80's stalking gay bars in the West Village. He would spot a limp wristed lisping queen leaving a bar ranting and raving about the latest Goldie Hawn movie. His anger would shoot to his skull (and rightfully so) and then like the real man he was he would destroy the evil queen saving the world from Goldie Hawn critics. Before the cops got there he was always sure to stick a broken glass bottle in their eye blinding them for life. True story.
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This does not work for adding muscle.
It is useless.
tell that to Lee Priest or Jonnie Jackson who eat Mickey D's all the time.
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Furthermore Joe(Mr. Intenseone) and ONLYME,
Chazz is not only a lifetime natural, he also looks better than the both of you.
I feel sorry that the two of you have lived this long being so unintelligent.
When did the ability to think for yourself and to be rational leave your collective conciousness?
I hope you guys get it back one day.
Man are you freaking gullible, I feel sorry for you!!
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Hey where's Sarcasm chiming in with 222lbs!? - maybe if he's 7' tall. ::)
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Blood pressure: 111/78 on Day 1 and 121/81 on Day 30
You can imagine what it will be after a year (and this all while he was LOSING weight so it should have lowered)
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Btw: 121 over 80 is considered optimal in the US ?!
From 120/90 you're suffering from hypertension so that says a lot about the general american health lol
On a side note: I applaud your thinking outside of the box adonis, your principles will ofcourse work based on energy laws
I do however not consider it the optimal method (economically and for taste it definately is, I'll give you that)
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Btw: 121 over 80 is considered optimal in the US ?!
From 120/90 you're suffering from hypertension so that says a lot about the general american health lol
On a side note: I applaud your thinking outside of the box adonis, your principles will ofcourse work based on energy laws
I do however not consider it the optimal method (economically and for taste it definately is, I'll give you that)
true, and funny thing is they just lowered it, optimal used to be higher than that.
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Cholesterol: 208 at the start of the project; he will retest today and should have results on his Web site by Monday
The last meal: Friday, April 30, 4:30 p.m. Big Mac, Double Cheeseburger, 6-piece Chicken McNuggets, snack-size Fruit & Yogurt Parfait, medium Diet Coke – total calories: 1,550
Media interviews: 50-75, mostly for radio talk shows
Exercise: 25-30 minutes of cardio training and 50-60 minutes of strength training, six days a week Verification: A witness was present to videotape meals.
Calories: Started at 3,500 daily calories but has fluctuated as high as 5,700. He warns that this amount is tailored for his body and exercise regimen and is not for a typical person. Before starting the challenge, he used protein shakes and bars but no other supplements.
Favorite item: McGriddle breakfast sandwich
Now if we could just get those who eat all those calories from there fast food to do cardio and train 6 days a week ::) Wasn't the idea that spurlock was trying to suggest is most people don't exercise and eat fast food daily, which would have a unhealthy results.
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This 'Chazz' fellow is fucking tiny. I would immediately kill myself if i ever got that small. So what if hes ripped? Its better to be BIG.
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This 'Chazz' fellow is fucking tiny. I would immediately kill myself if i ever got that small. So what if hes ripped? Its better to be BIG.
Is that how you feel about your girlfriend's strap on?
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Is that how you feel about your girlfriend's strap on?
;D You're the man ;D
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How is your diet coming, Keith?
If you consider eating 7000 calories of boiled lettuce and chicken a diet ahahahahha
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Man are you freaking gullible, I feel sorry for you!!
Hahahah that would be you believening the creation of the world in 6 days because daddy told you so.
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This 'Chazz' fellow is fucking tiny. I would immediately kill myself if i ever got that small. So what if hes ripped? Its better to be BIG.
So not only are you hinting that you are overweight and out of shape but your wife also douches your ass with a big black strap on dubbed Monster English?
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What? I'm talking about people who go day after day, year after year on a "normal" diet (in my terms) and make no noticable changes.
They Overeat. People just don`t realize HOW much they eat.
Also consistency and intensity. I am am willing to bet those are missing as well.
The biggest problem is overeating though.
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this is interesting stuff, but in defense of Morgan Spurlocks film, the average American does not exercise as much as Chazz, and its great the he wants to, but the average working American just wont have time or energy to devote to going to the gym. Single Moms, over worked Dads...to expect them to burn off each and every calorie they eat is unrealistic.
So Morgan Spurlock was pointing out how if the average working American who exercises moderately eats McDonald's on a steady basis, they will get fat...and that is true. The movie was not about exercise, it was about whats in food and trying to wake people up to the enormous amount of calories they are consuming. The film was not about spending hours in the gym because for most people that is not realistic.
Its not feasible that an American would eat MCdonalds for EVERY SINGLE MEAL. If one can`t spend time in the gym , then they just lower the calories further.
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They Overeat. People just don`t realize HOW much they eat.
Also consistency and intensity. I am am willing to bet those are missing as well.
The biggest problem is overeating though.
How do you explain daddywaddy then? He makes you look like an anorexic twink - and he stuffs himself.
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How do you explain daddywaddy then? He makes you look like an anorexic twink - and he stuffs himself.
He will also tell you that he has eaten around 900-1000 calories only on some days for long periods of time. I don`t go that low, but he does.
We actually have about the same amount of muscle when adjusted for height.
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Hahahah that would be you believening the creation of the world in 6 days because daddy told you so.
Hahahaha....prove to me otherwise!
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Hahahaha....prove to me otherwise!
I could say the same to you...
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We actually have about the same amount of muscle when adjusted for height.
BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!
Your 'theories' may work for you, but if i were to go on your crazy diet i would lose all my muscle. You must have the metabolism of a slug.
The real problem is your refusal to reveal your actual 'secrets'. Until we know your 'magic formula' its hard to accurately judge.
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BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!
Your 'theories' may work for you, but if i were to go on your crazy diet i would lose all my muscle. You must have the metabolism of a slug.
The real problem is your refusal to reveal your actual 'secrets'. Until we know your 'magic formula' its hard to accurately judge.
Nonsense. You won't lose a single ounce. I have pics to prove it but won't post them as they would be used against me ahahahahah.
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BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!
Your 'theories' may work for you, but if i were to go on your crazy diet i would lose all my muscle. You must have the metabolism of a slug.
The real problem is your refusal to reveal your actual 'secrets'. Until we know your 'magic formula' its hard to accurately judge.
Ask Daddywaddy how he diets down.
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Nonsense. You won't lose a single ounce. I have pics to prove it but won't post them as they would be used against me ahahahahah.
exactly, when you are natural it is almost impossible to lose muscle no matter what you eat, juicers lose muscle because the drugs are reliant upon the protein levels.
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Hahahaha....prove to me otherwise!
You really are an idiot. Go to a museum. Read a Biology book. Watch the Discovery channel for 5 minutes.
I`m just speechless at how ignorant and dumb you are and the fact that you have lived your life this long in this state.
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Hahahaha....prove to me otherwise!
Joe is an idiot. He believes in angels, fairys and thinks Unicorns grazed in fields with people and Dinosaurs. Sorry, but you cannot take any Creationist serious when their level of intelligence regarding Science stops at a 1st grade level. With his creationist view on the world, he believes that, the sun, solar system, the ENTIRE UNIVERSE was created, AFTER the domestication of the dog. That speaks volumes of his intelligence or lack thereof.
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You really are an idiot. Go to a museum. Read a Biology book. Watch the Discovery channel for 5 minutes.
I`m just speechless at how ignorant and dumb you are and the fact that you have lived your life this long in this state.
Hahahaha...oh wait, your an expert on that too?
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Joe is an idiot. He believes in angels, fairys and thinks Unicorns grazed in fields with people and Dinosaurs. Sorry, but you cannot take any Creationist serious when their level of intelligence regarding Science stops at a 1st grade level. With his creationist view on the world, he believes that, the sun, solar system, the ENTIRE UNIVERSE was created, AFTER the domestication of the dog. That speaks volumes of his intelligence or lack thereof.
what do you expect from a "man" who gets all of his information form that Zionist bastion Fox News?
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Joe is an idiot. He believes in angels, fairys and thinks Unicorns grazed in fields with people and Dinosaurs. Sorry, but you cannot take any Creationist serious when their level of intelligence regarding Science stops at a 1st grade level. With his creationist view on the world, he believes that, the sun, solar system, the ENTIRE UNIVERSE was created, AFTER the domestication of the dog. That speaks volumes of his intelligence or lack thereof.
Original...you've posted this already ::) Lets see how many time you can get owned TODAY!!
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Original...you've posted this already ::) Lets see how many time you can get owned TODAY!!
Its your own blatant ignorance on display. Funny that you are trying to defend irrational stupidty.
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BTW, ....'Wolfgang' was known to spend his spare time in the 80's stalking gay bars in the West Village. He would spot a limp wristed lisping queen leaving a bar ranting and raving about the latest Goldie Hawn movie. His anger would shoot to his skull (and rightfully so) and then like the real man he was he would destroy the evil queen saving the world from Goldie Hawn critics. Before the cops got there he was always sure to stick a broken glass bottle in their eye blinding them for life. True story.
SO WHAT!
HUSH HUSH ERP!!!!!!!
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Myth and a Lie.
there are plenty of studies, even from FDA saying trans fat kills, and mac is trying to reduce its trans fat
if u say its a lie, back it up pls, show me any studies or proof
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To the top for truth.
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damn I'd love to eat a couple of cheeseburgers 8)
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damn I'd love to eat a couple of cheeseburgers 8)
You can.
Just replace it with what you were going to eat, using the same calories.
or
Use them as part of your total intake.
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You can.
Just replace it with what you were going to eat, using the same calories.
or
Use them as part of your total intake.
honnestly, I prefer not to do it since I don't want to mess up my prep.
but after the show is over, I'll try what you say just for the hell of it
then I'll give my unbiased opinion on the adonis principles :)
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honnestly, I prefer not to do it since I don't want to mess up my prep.
but after the show is over, I'll try what you say just for the hell of it
then I'll give my unbiased opinion on the adonis principles :)
Sure thing.
Will you start a thread and all that?
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Sure thing.
Will you start a thread and all that?
absolutly, I'll start with having a contest shape and I'll post pictures.
then, I'll follow the principles for a month and see what happens
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LOL I find it funny how Stav can say "I'm going on the Adonis Pwinciples!" yet he doesn't even know what they are.
"I had a burger with fries for lunch... I'm on the Adonis Princples!"
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absolutly, I'll start with having a contest shape and I'll post pictures.
then, I'll follow the principles for a month and see what happens
I look forward in helping you.
when is your competition?
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Adonis, McDonalds food = ton of calories. If a calorie is a calorie then you can't be eating too much. It's much eaiser to eat cleaner food that are less in the calorie department, don't you think so?
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Adonis, McDonalds food = ton of calories. If a calorie is a calorie then you can't be eating too much. It's much eaiser to eat cleaner food that are less in the calorie department, don't you think so?
Not really.
A big Mac is only 540 calories and contains less Cholesterol than a 6 oz chicken breast.
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A hamburger is around 260.
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Adonis, McDonalds food = ton of calories. If a calorie is a calorie then you can't be eating too much. It's much eaiser to eat cleaner food that are less in the calorie department, don't you think so?
Also you KNOW the calories in anything a fast food produces. They are the most accurate in the food industry.
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Forget the TA principles in dieting, I want to see them for adding muscle
Chances are, the results of this have already been seen: The pictures of TA @ 240
LOL
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Sociopath:
Someone whose social behavior is extremely abnormal. Sociopaths are interested only in their personal needs and desires, without concern for the effects of their behavior on others.
Make no mistake......this represents the psychological profile of "Adonis".
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Not really.
A big Mac is only 540 calories and contains less Cholesterol than a 6 oz chicken breast.
Remeber the LDL thing we talked about? Your killing the people who are stupid enough to listen to you!
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A calorie is a calorie in all sense.
1 Calorie=1 Calorie of any substance.
When it comes to food, you should not overeat even when trying to gain muscle.
In any normal diet, you will be adequately fueled nutrient wise to build muscle or lose fat.
You would have to try your HARDEST to not meet nutritional needs. Its not feasible.
Thats the thing though, McDonalds and the like are processed /refined food which are deficient if not VOID of nutrients.
He would have looked MUCH better and been in even BETTER health had he eated fresh veggies, wild salmon, fresh cuts of meat, and fresh fruits with whole grains.
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Not really.
A big Mac is only 540 calories and contains less Cholesterol than a 6 oz chicken breast.
Adam....your comment on the whole Big Mac vs. Chicken breast thing has always troubled me...so I did a little math.....
Here are some stats on broiled ground beef:
4oz Ground Beef (85%) 29.3gm P, 0gm C, 20.2gm F, 103mg Chol.
Sandwiches & Burgers: Burgers, Big Mac, no Bun (5oz): 18gm P, 6gm C, 26gm F, 75mg Chol.
There is NO DATA out there on just simply the big mac meat. Everything I have found points to about 2oz PER pattie of meat. So, looking at 5oz of cooked chicken, you come up with the following:
5oz Chicken Breast (cooked) 44gm P, 0gm C, 5.1gm F, 121mg Chol.
While this looks promising for simply the CHOLESTEROL standpoint....look at the comparison of fat. The Big Mac meat has 5 TIMES the fat. The chicken breast has TWICE the protein. If were to simply look at the protein as equals (around 20gm per serving) that would account for only 2.5oz of cooked chicken. Thus bringing our cholesterol down LOWER than the big mac patties.
The total values for a big mac SANDWICH are:
Sandwiches & Burgers: Burgers, Big Mac (7.5oz) 25gm P, 45gm C, 29gm F, 75mg Chol. (total calories = 540)
This shows that there is NO cholesterol in the bread/bun of the Big Mac.
So, were I to take a SIMILAR amount of chicken (equalling out the protein) and then using some standard wheat bread, I would have this:
2.5oz Chicken Breast (cooked) 22gm P, 0gm C, 2.5gm F, 60mg Chol. (total calories = 117)
2 Slices General Wheat Bread 4.6gm P, 23.6gm C, 2.1gm F, 0mg Chol. (total calories = 130)
Giving me:
247 calories - 50% LESS than a Big Mac.
4.6gms of fat - 85% LESS than a Big Mac
60gms of cholesterol - 20% LESS than a Big Mac.
The thing is....the chicken sandwich (with half of the calories) has almost as much fiber as the Big Mac.
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A calorie is a calorie in all sense.
1 Calorie=1 Calorie of any substance.
When it comes to food, you should not overeat even when trying to gain muscle.
In any normal diet, you will be adequately fueled nutrient wise to build muscle or lose fat.
You would have to try your HARDEST to not meet nutritional needs. Its not feasible.
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This is the thread of the week, perhaps the month.
The Great One Himself has been vindicated.
Sociopath:
Someone whose social behavior is extremely abnormal. Sociopaths are interested only in their personal needs and desires, without concern for the effects of their behavior on others.
Make no mistake............this represents the psychological profile of "Adonis."
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Sociopath:
Someone whose social behavior is extremely abnormal. Sociopaths are interested only in their personal needs and desires, without concern for the effects of their behavior on others.
Make no mistake............this represents the psychological profile of "Adonis."
expand on this. I have not taken any psyc. classes in a loooooooooooooooooong time.
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LOL I find it funny how Stav can say "I'm going on the Adonis Pwinciples!" yet he doesn't even know what they are.
"I had a burger with fries for lunch... I'm on the Adonis Princples!"
Sociopath:
Someone whose social behavior is extremely abnormal. Sociopaths are interested only in their personal needs and desires, without concern for the effects of their behavior on others.
Make no mistake............this represents the psychological profile of "Adonis" IMO .
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Too bad people in today's world think that there are "magic diet pills" instead of a little hard work.
you mean like clen/t3/ephedra?
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:) for the idiots.
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you mean like clen/t3/ephedra?
None of which work if you don't eat right and work out. ::)
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None of which work if you don't eat right and work out. ::)
not 'eat right' but eat Too Much.
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not 'eat right' but eat Too Much.
The most simple things, elude the most simple minds. :-\
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not 'eat right' but eat Too Much.
By "eat right" I was referring to quantity. ::)
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By "eat right" I was referring to quantity. ::)
you don't have to be so defensive, if I were you Id stand by my statement. Don't you think that fast food is not a healthy alternative? Over the long run at least, it seems that fast food is anything but a good alternative, or even an acceptable one to start.
The simple mind only grasps the simple. To simply say that a calorie is a calorie is truly a simple statement that doesn't take into account the functioning of the body. I'm afraid its a bit more complex than a calorie in calorie out thing.
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you don't have to be so defensive, if I were you Id stand by my statement.
I wasn't back-peddaling, I was clarifying. The clueless ones seemed to imply I was saying calories didn't matter, and I wasn't saying that at all.
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The most simple things, elude the most simple minds. :-\
But we ALL know you are full of shit. So that counts.
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By "eat right" I was referring to quantity. ::)
well you should have been more specific.
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well you should have been more specific.
WTF is eating right supposed to mean o Gods of nutrition?
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WTF is eating right supposed to mean o Gods of nutrition?
well many people believe 'quality' is important, right?
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well many people 'quality' is important, right?
Goatboy simply said "eating right". You love to argue dont you.
Just like I do.
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Not really.
A big Mac is only 540 calories and contains less Cholesterol than a 6 oz chicken breast.
This is true, but a chicken breast also only contains 280 calories... So I can reduce my total caloric intake if I eat one chicken breast vs one big mac.
A chicken breast and 1/2 cup of rice is only 330 calories as compared to the Big Mac at 540.
Although if following the calorie is a calorie standard... It doesn't matter how man pieces food you take in as long as it's not over your calorie requirement.
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Hahahahaha I love the guy....
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Although if following the calorie is a calorie standard... It doesn't matter how man pieces food you take in as long as it's not over your calorie requirement.
As long as your keeping your macros in a balance that works for yourself personally. It does not matter what you eat at all.
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In other words, if your maintenance calorie level is 2400 and you want to maintain and you respond best on a 40-30-30 balance of macros, you can get all of your calories at McDonalds if that's what you want to do, keeping your balance and calorie level where you need it.
It just may be a bit harder to do at McDonalds and to keep the fat levels where you personally might need them, the menu choices may not be any tastier than doing it yourself.
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In other words, if your maintenance calorie level is 2400 and you want to maintain and you respond best on a 40-30-30 balance of macros, you can get all of your calories at McDonalds if that's what you want to do, keeping your balance and calorie level where you need it.
It just may be a bit harder to do at McDonalds and to keep the fat levels where you personally might need them, the menu choices may not be any tastier than doing it yourself.
No, there is no balance of macros on this diet.
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because some guy named chaz CLAIMS to have eaten Mds for a month somehow that disproves that fast food is shit?
Lets see his blood work...lets see the doctor reports jackass. Because he claims not to have gotten a headache we are supposed to believe that a mcds diet is as good as a healthy one...?
a calorie is a measure of energy, thermal energy to be exact. It has NOTHING to do with proper nutritional value and supplying required nutrients to the body.
if you believe that an eqaul amouont of caloric value derived from ice cream is equivalent to the value of fish, green beans, or rice for the body (especially the athletes body)....then you are even dumber than I thought.
You will never be able to get back at the guys in high school who took your fedora and stuffed you into your locker. Especially not by pretending to understand food science and biology on the internet.
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Hahahahaha I love the guy....
Yeah, so do I.
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because some guy named chaz CLAIMS to have eaten Mds for a month somehow that disproves that fast food is shit?
Lets see his blood work...lets see the doctor reports jackass. Because he claims not to have gotten a headache we are supposed to believe that a mcds diet is as good as a healthy one...?
a calorie is a measure of energy, thermal energy to be exact. It has NOTHING to do with proper nutritional value and supplying required nutrients to the body.
if you believe that an eqaul amouont of caloric value derived from ice cream is equivalent to the value of fish, green beans, or rice for the body (especially the athletes body)....then you are even dumber than I thought.
You will never be able to get back at the guys in high school who took your fedora and stuffed you into your locker. Especially not by pretending to understand food science and biology on the internet.
For the 304923409539053590 Time, The Blood Results:
www.truthinfitness.org
to learn more
Okay, here are the results:
Weight – I started at 222lbs and in thirty days I dropped 8lbs of “body fat”, ending the thirty days at 214lbs.
Blood Pressure - I started at 111/71, a bit low, and ended the thirty days at 121/81 which is optimal.
Cholesterol – this is where you need to understand about cholesterol!
My HDL (the good cholesterol) improved 80%.
My LDL (the bad cholesterol) went down 2 points. That’s an improvement!
My overall cholesterol went up 6% because of my HDL improvement, however this is an improvement overall.
My Triglycerides improved 42%
(http://www.truthinfitness.org/images/2004_04_30c.jpg)
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looks like Chaz is trying to cash in like JARED did...
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Bump for FatPanda and the hard headed ones.
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Completly wrong.
You can add muscle just as fast.
then why are you 6 foot and 160 if it's that easy?
(by the way, it's spelled 'completely')
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then why are you 6 foot and 160 if it's that easy?
(by the way, it's spelled 'completely')
Timberwolf is only 5`10 and 160-170. :-\ And I am 5`11 and in that range. :-\
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Completly wrong.
You can add muscle just as fast.
trust me sweetheart, you are far from 'that range'.
so why don't YOU have more muscle if it's that easy.
please enlighten us all.
waiting....
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Timberwolf is only 5`10 and 160-170. :-\ And I am 5`11 and in that range. :-\
bahahahahahahahha
so, because you both weigh the same you look the same?
great argument in support of your theory.
are you really this stupid, or do you just assume others are?
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trust me sweetheart, you are far from 'that range'.
so why don't YOU have more muscle if it's that easy.
please enlighten us all.
waiting....
I am? ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=247266.0;attach=286719;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=247430.0;attach=286733;image)
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Timberwolf is only 5`10 and 160-170. :-\ And I am 5`11 and in that range. :-\
What's he taking? lol
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What's he taking? lol
must be really good psychotropics.
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He basically spent 13 grand for the media attention. I bet he tries to get a tax write off. :-\
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A calorie is a calorie in all sense.
1 Calorie=1 Calorie of any substance.
When it comes to food, you should not overeat even when trying to gain muscle.
In any normal diet, you will be adequately fueled nutrient wise to build muscle or lose fat.
You would have to try your HARDEST to not meet nutritional needs. Its not feasible.
what you are saying is one gram of carbs or protein does not equal 4 calories and one gram of fat does not equal 9 calories?
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I am? ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=247266.0;attach=286719;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=247430.0;attach=286733;image)
You are exhibiting good condition, but I don't like the look of your overall physique. You just don't have the WOW factor, bro. Your muscle bellies are not very round and you have a "long" frame. You do not have a physique that is conducive to competitive bodybuilding.
Props for getting into great condition and having a system that works for YOU. Personally, I wouldn't be putting SHIT calories like pecan pie into my body. I'll take the route that has been PROVEN successful by people I respect in bodybuilding.
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I am? ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=247266.0;attach=286719;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=247430.0;attach=286733;image)
Where are pics of the standard bodybuilding poses? Front double bi? Back double? Ab and thigh? Rear and front lat spread?
You love those side shots that show conditioned muscle...but little else.
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Where are pics of the standard bodybuilding poses? Front double bi? Back double? Ab and thigh? Rear and front lat spread?
You love those side shots that show conditioned muscle...but little else.
His legs look like arms they are so skinny. That side triceps is actually okay for arm size the only problem is that he is near 190-200 lbs there NOT 160. WIth all these pics I would like to see a video of him weighing himself on a doctors scale.
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Where are pics of the standard bodybuilding poses? Front double bi? Back double? Ab and thigh? Rear and front lat spread?
You love those side shots that show conditioned muscle...but little else.
because he has no back. or legs. ask for a pic of his legs that is recent.
the only way he can make his arms look over 15 inches is to push them up against the side of his body.
something tells me that he did take pics for MGB and when he saw how abhorrent he looked in the poses you mentioned as he couldn't use his rib cage to appear larger than he really is he conveniently couldn't make the deadline. ::). it's his ribcage that gives the illusion of thickness, not his musculature.
nice catch.
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because he has no back. or legs. ask for a pic of his legs that is recent.
the only way he can make his arms look over 15 inches is to push them up against the side of his body.
something tells me that he did take pics for MGB and when he saw how abhorrent he looked in the poses you mentioned as he couldn't use his rib cage to appear larger than he really is he conveniently couldn't make the deadline. ::). it's his ribcage that gives the illusion of thickness, not his musculature.
nice catch.
He just doesn't have the genetics to do anything in competitive bodybuilding. He wants everyone to listen to him and buy into a nutritional theory (which isn't even his) that no DECENT bodybuilder would ever use. There's a LOGICAL reason why no one uses this sort of diet when training for a contest. It's all been tried before - and the methods that we being used are the ones that produce the best RESULTS.
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what you are saying is one gram of carbs or protein does not equal 4 calories and one gram of fat does not equal 9 calories?
No. I am saying 1 Calorie of something=1 Calorie of another thing.
Don`t confuse weight with energy.
1 calorie of shampoo=1 calorie of carbohydrates=1 calorie of fat=1 calorie of paper clips and so on.
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No. I am saying 1 Calorie of something=1 Calorie of another thing.
Don`t confuse weight with energy.
1 calorie of shampoo=1 calorie of carbohydrates=1 calorie of fat=1 calorie of paper clips and so on.
So you eat shampoo? ;D
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This is great PR for MCdonalds. They will double their sales now. Haha.
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So you eat shampoo? ;D
that would explain a few things.
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No. I am saying 1 Calorie of something=1 Calorie of another thing.
Don`t confuse weight with energy.
1 calorie of shampoo=1 calorie of carbohydrates=1 calorie of fat=1 calorie of paper clips and so on.
I think it is true that a calorie is a calorie and whether you gain or lose weight depends entirely on calories in and calories out. But isn't it true that how your body processes and utilizes that calorie varies depending on the source? Say you take in 30 calories of pure sugar. You body processes it and utilizes it very quicky. But say you ingest 30 calories of a high fiberous carb like say celery or brocolli. Now you body has to break it down before it can use as energy. Say you're on a no carb/protein only diet and now your body has to convert amino acids into glucose. Isn't there a metabolic cost to this conversion? That your body has to use energy, i.e., calories, to break down fiber or to convert amino acids into glucose/energy. In fact, I think Milos claims that some high fiberous foods actually have a negative caloric value because of the metabolic cost involved in processing and utilizing that substance into energy.
It's still calories in and calories out but some of those "calories out" are involved in the processing of those "calories in" depending on the source.
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I am? ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=247266.0;attach=286719;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=247430.0;attach=286733;image)
Why is every picture you post taken in low level lighting?
Do you think people dont realize that everyone looks better in low level??
Lets see some shots in sunlight.
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that would explain a few things.
sadly, it does.....
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Why is every picture you post taken in low level lighting?
Do you think people dont realize that everyone looks better in low level??
Lets see some shots in sunlight.
Bump.
Well TA?
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Bump.
Well TA?
He ignores posts when he gets his ass handed to him. It's amazing how voracious he can be when he believes he's got the upper hand of an argument and how SILENT he is when there's nowhere to run.
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He ignores posts when he gets his ass handed to him. It's amazing how voracious he can be when he believes he's got the upper hand of an argument and how SILENT he is when there's nowhere to run.
Hard to imagine a man of such 'character' doing such a thing. ::)
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Hard to imagine a man of such 'character' doing such a thing. ::)
Well, we all know exactly what he's about. He's not worth taking seriously, period.
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you can grow as much muscle as you want apenis, you still have this gay retarded face. Get a haircut seriously.
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you can grow as much muscle as you want apenis, you still have this gay retarded face. Get a haircut seriously.
He is not an alpha male.
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(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/_not_gallery_pix/eMag_41_Kiakadasok_04.jpg)
He got to the meat of his argument
'Chazz' Weaver ate only fast food for 30 days, challenging assumptions about diet.
By BRIAN MARTINEZ
The Orange County Register
COSTA MESA – Charles "Chazz" Weaver on Friday completed his monthlong McDonald's-only experiment, claimed he lost 8 pounds in the project, and challenged the creator of the "Super Size Me" film to a public debate on obesity and fast food.
Weaver, 48, ate nothing but McDonald's fare for 30 consecutive days – every menu item at least once – to prove that staying thin is about calorie intake and exercise. His credentials are his fit body, 19 years of studying fitness as a hobby, and helping friends lose weight.
"I am not an advocate of fast food as a lifestyle, but neither do you have to be on a so- called diet," he said.
His strength and energy have not diminished and he hasn't had negative effects, he said.
"Not even a headache or a mood swing," he said.
Statistics detailing 30-day experiment
Weight: 222 pounds on Day 1 and 214 pounds on Day 30
Blood pressure: 111/78 on Day 1 and 121/81 on Day 30
Cholesterol: 208 at the start of the project; he will retest today and should have results on his Web site by Monday
The last meal: Friday, April 30, 4:30 p.m. Big Mac, Double Cheeseburger, 6-piece Chicken McNuggets, snack-size Fruit & Yogurt Parfait, medium Diet Coke – total calories: 1,550
Media interviews: 50-75, mostly for radio talk shows
Exercise: 25-30 minutes of cardio training and 50-60 minutes of strength training, six days a week
Verification: A witness was present to videotape meals.
Calories: Started at 3,500 daily calories but has fluctuated as high as 5,700. He warns that this amount is tailored for his body and exercise regimen and is not for a typical person. Before starting the challenge, he used protein shakes and bars but no other supplements.
Favorite item: McGriddle breakfast sandwich
Least favorite item: The ice cream
Seminar: Weaver will give a free fitness seminar and a report on his 30-day challenge today at Triangle Square, 1870 Harbor Blvd., Costa Mesa, from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m.
The Costa Mesa resident is fed up with Americans who don't take responsibility for being out of shape, fitness entrepreneurs who make a living on incomplete information, and overweight nutrition scholars who don't "walk the walk," he said. He hopes the project will inspire people to research fitness and help them lose weight.
He got the idea for his experiment after reading about and taking exception to the documentary, "Super Size Me," which records the deterioration of filmmaker Morgan Spurlock's health. Spurlock ate almost as many calories as Weaver, but his only exercise was walking the same amount of steps as the average American.
"I think its great that Chazz is attempting to stay fit," Spurlock said through a spokesman Friday. "The underlying theme in my film is to try to increase personal and corporate responsibility."
He declined to respond to Weaver's debate challenge.
At least five people have taken up experiments such as Weaver's, McDonald's spokesman Walt Riker said. He said the company has no connection with them or Weaver.
"There seems to be a grass- roots backlash against the outrageous misbehavior in Spurlock's film," Riker said. "Stuffing yourself and not exercising is irresponsible."
Weaver said he has spent about $13,000 of his own money on the project.
"I'm looking for the psychic benefit," he said. "Doing something good for people is really pleasurable."
Anyone who thinks his genetics are average and that this sh*t would apply to every thyroidally challenged fatso out there is sorely mistaken.
Plus, fat aside, that salt and hydrogonated fatty shit is no good for nobody.
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Bump.
Well TA?
It is too cold to go outside right now and take pictures with my shirt off. Sorry. I don`t see how these pictures aren`t viable enough for you though as they are well lit. ???
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A calorie is a calorie in all sense.
1 Calorie=1 Calorie of any substance.
When it comes to food, you should not overeat even when trying to gain muscle.
In any normal diet, you will be adequately fueled nutrient wise to build muscle or lose fat.
please explain how one puts on bodyweight of they are not overeating ???
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please explain how one puts on bodyweight of they are not overeating ???
I seriously doubt the Jews in Auschwitz and Buchenwald were putting on weight. >:(
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I seriously doubt the Jews in Auschwitz and Buchenwald were putting on weight. >:(
hahahahahahaha are you serious ???
what the fuck does that have to do with my question ???
you claimed to put on muscle mass you should not overeat, i am asking you to explain this outlandish claim.
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hahahahahahaha are you serious ???
what the fuck does that have to do with my question ???
you claimed to put on muscle mass you should not overeat, i am asking you to explain this outlandish claim.
I will start with a few articles on some recent experiments:
Calorie restriction shown to boost longevity and slow loss of muscle mass in animal experiment
Monday, July 10, 2006 by:
A study recently published in the Journal of Gerontology: Biological Sciences suggests that eating less may help people stay strong even in old age.
Scientists from the University of Calgary found that rats fed a nutritious, calorie-restricted diet maintained their muscle mass much better than rats that ate a normal amount of food. "It's the equivalent of an 80-year-old rat with the muscles of a 20-year-old rat," said Russ Hepple, a physiologist at the University of Calgary.
Although it is well-documented that a low calorie diet increases life expectancy, this is the first study showing a connection between diet and strength. In Hepple's experiment, rats that consumed a low calorie diet lost only 20 percent of their muscle mass as they aged, with no loss of muscle function. Rats fed a normal diet lost 50 percent of their strength and 50 percent of their muscle function as they aged.
Researchers are still trying to understand how a low calorie diet preserves muscles. Experiments performed so far seem to show that cutting calories helps the mitochondria function better, which improves the rats ability to rebuild and replace cells as they age. Hepple's next study will focus on antioxidants, exercise and gene therapy to see how these areas affect muscle maintenance.
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Moderate caloric restriction increases type 1 IGF receptors and protein synthesis in aging rats.
D'Costa AP, Lenham JE, Ingram RL, Sonntag WE.
Department of Physiology and Pharmacology, Bowman Gray School of Medicine, Wake Forest University, Winston-Salem, NC 27157-1083.
Insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1) is an anabolic hormone that mediates the actions of growth hormone (GH) and is found at lower concentrations in aged animals. These decreases in GH and IGF-1 appear to have important physiological consequences for aging, since protein synthesis decreases with age, and administration of GH and/or IGF-1 has been shown to increase protein synthesis. The present study was designed to determine (a) the relationship between the age-related changes in rates of tissue protein synthesis and plasma IGF-1 concentrations, (b) type 1 IGF receptor density in tissues and (c) whether long-term moderate caloric restriction, which is known to increase life-span, affects these relationships. Male Brown Norway rats were fed ad libitum or caloric-restricted (60% ad libitum) from 14 weeks of age and sacrificed at different ages. In ad libitum fed animals there were age-related decreases in plasma IGF-1 concentrations (14%) and in the rates of protein synthesis of the heart (36%) and liver (38%). Type 1 IGF receptor density remained constant in all tissues with age. The caloric-restricted animals exhibited plasma IGF-1 concentrations 33 to 42% lower than the ad libitum fed animals. However, rates of protein synthesis increased by 70 and 30% in heart and diaphragm, and this increase was associated with 60 to 100% increases in type 1 IGF receptor densities when compared with ad libitum fed animals.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS)
Publication Types:
Research Support, U.S. Gov't, P.H.S.
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That's with rats, which fits perfect for you, TA.
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I will start with a few articles on some recent experiments:
Calorie restriction shown to boost longevity and slow loss of muscle mass in animal experiment
Monday, July 10, 2006 by:
A study recently published in the Journal of Gerontology: Biological Sciences suggests that eating less may help people stay strong even in old age.
Scientists from the University of Calgary found that rats fed a nutritious, calorie-restricted diet maintained their muscle mass much better than rats that ate a normal amount of food. "It's the equivalent of an 80-year-old rat with the muscles of a 20-year-old rat," said Russ Hepple, a physiologist at the University of Calgary.
Although it is well-documented that a low calorie diet increases life expectancy, this is the first study showing a connection between diet and strength. In Hepple's experiment, rats that consumed a low calorie diet lost only 20 percent of their muscle mass as they aged, with no loss of muscle function. Rats fed a normal diet lost 50 percent of their strength and 50 percent of their muscle function as they aged.
Researchers are still trying to understand how a low calorie diet preserves muscles. Experiments performed so far seem to show that cutting calories helps the mitochondria function better, which improves the rats ability to rebuild and replace cells as they age. Hepple's next study will focus on antioxidants, exercise and gene therapy to see how these areas affect muscle maintenance.
perhaps you are confused.
ONCE AGAIN: you claimed When it comes to food, you should not overeat even when trying to gain muscle.
how does studies involving rats - that lose muscle, back your claim ???
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all this stuff varies from person to person, i cannot eat a 'normal' diet and still build muscle.
a tiny amount, maybe, but hardly noticable. i have the kind of metabolism where i have to eat tons of calories, especially right before bed, just to not lose weight. the only way i gain noticable muscle is by eating a shitload of pasta or potatoes everyday along with lots of protein.
this 'a calorie is a calorie' stuff is bullshit at least for 99% of all humans.
if what your saying is true then your saying one could build as much lean muscle eating 2500 calories a day of nothing but cupcakes as they would from 2500 calories worth of steak and potatoes, hahahaha no way.
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That's with rats, which fits perfect for you, TA.
Human studies and CR are just now being put into place. Rats are the closest thing in some aspects, but I do agree that there needs to be more human studies in this area. That does not render other mammalian tests as meaningless however. The problem is that human studies regarding nutrition never work on a large scale as humans do not adhere to control very well and mess the whole thing up when they stray which ALWAYS happens no matter what research is being conducted in the long term.
I will post a lot of human studies as well.
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all this stuff varies from person to person, i cannot eat a 'normal' diet and still build muscle.
a tiny amount, maybe, but hardly noticable. i have the kind of metabolism where i have to eat tons of calories, especially right before bed, just to not lose weight. the only way i gain noticable muscle is by eating a shitload of pasta or potatoes everyday along with lots of protein.
this 'a calorie is a calorie' stuff is bullshit at least for 99% of all humans.
if what your saying is true then your saying one could build as much lean muscle eating 2500 calories a day of nothing but cupcakes as they would from 2500 calories worth of steak and potatoes, hahahaha no way.
I have never said that.
You have to have .5 to 1 gram of protein from any source.
FYI- 1 calorie of paper clips=1 calorie of shampoo=1 calorie of jet fuel=1 calorie of fat=1 calorie of carbohydrate
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I have never said that.
You have to have .5 to 1 gram of protein from any source.
FYI- 1 calorie of paper clips=1 calorie of shampoo=1 calorie of jet fuel=1 calorie of fat=1 calorie of carbohydrate
Weird 60 grams was more than enough a couple of months ago.
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TA, have you ever heard of the Thermal effect of food?
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ratss!! :o
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Timberwolf is only 5`10 and 160-170. :-\ And I am 5`11 and in that range. :-\
You should eat like a bodybuilder and gain some muscle.
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that would explain a few things.
Thought it was lead paint chips.
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You should eat like a bodybuilder and gain some muscle.
Does this guy have an ounce of introspection? He must see something the rest of us don't.
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TA, have you ever heard of the Thermal effect of food?
Yah it is very minimal.
WHY THE THERMIC EFFECT OF FOOD IS MEANINGLESS!!!!!!!!! for the 98435890435834 time.
Protein has a Thermic effect of about 15% wheras carbohydrates are around 10% as studies indicate.
What this represents is the calories burned through digestion. There is not a significant variance to even matter.
Lets say one takes in 300 grams of carbs or 1200 calories. 10 percent burned is going to be 120 calories.
Now lets compare 300 grams of protein or 1200 calories. 180 calories are going to be burned in digestion.
The variance of 60 calories means nothing. Typing on the computer for an hour also burns 60-120 calories.
Hope this helps you guys.
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Weird 60 grams was more than enough a couple of months ago.
I never said that. You must be conflating me with someone else.
Reminds of when some low-information citizens automatically thought after 9/11 that all muslims must be terrorists. Or when they even decided to lump any brown-skinned person in that group as a terrorist.
I think you get my point.
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I never said that. You must be conflating me with someone else.
Reminds of when some low-information citizens automatically thought after 9/11 that all muslims must be terrorists. Or when they even decided to lump any brown-skinned person in that group as a terrorist.
I think you get my point.
You're right. It was half that.
You did the math wrong.
According to that I need about 30 grams of protein.
That is about how much I get.
You are good in proving me correct.
Reminds me of someone talking shit ALL the time. I think you get my point.
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It is too cold to go outside right now and take pictures with my shirt off. Sorry. I don`t see how these pictures aren`t viable enough for you though as they are well lit. ???
What? These pictrues are taken inside. Why do you have to go outside. Are you afraid and getting swept away by the wind
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I seriously doubt the Jews in Auschwitz and Buchenwald were putting on weight. >:(
Either are you. You could easily be casted in the upcoming Auschwitz movie. (sorry not to offend anyone on this)