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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Colossus_1986 on May 12, 2007, 12:38:02 PM
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How the IFBB webcasts are ruining big shows.
BB.com and their webcast will be ruining the olympia for a 2nd year in a row
First HBE...now them... (Hard Body Ent.)
Sad to see how the premier show...once a PPV specatcle, and the staple of the "biz" is now
a little 3x4 inch video on your home PC. ::)
First the Arnold lost PPV status...now the Olympia :-\
Wayne DeMillia must be laughing his ass off on the BACKWARD-PROGRESS of the IFBB.
Discuss
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yeah I miss the time when I watched the O with my friends on a big screen
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yeah I miss the time when I watched the O with my friends on a big screen
That's never going to happen again, unless...
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That's never going to happen again, unless...
Unless someone in the IFBB pulls their head out their ass, and realize the importance of MAINSTREAM media.
example: HBO boxing is big for a reason. how many people would tune in if they switched it to webcast?
there are just somethings you don't do.
I understand working your way up through webcast, and eventually getting to PPV. but to go that route Backwards...doesn't show great signs of progress.
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Unless someone in the IFBB pulls their head out their ass, and realize the importance of MAINSTREAM media.
example: HBO boxing is big for a reason. how many people would tune in if they switched it to webcast?
there are just somethings you don't do.
I understand working your way up through webcast, and eventually getting to PPV. but to go that route Backwards...doesn't show great signs of progress.
it would generate ratings less than the handicap/special olympics
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They probably loss money airing these bodybuilding shows on PPV, not many people want to watch half naked men flex for a couple hours on end.
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yeah I miss the time when I watched the O with my friends on a big screen
Apparently, homie hasn't yet figured out how to run an s-video cable from his laptop to his TV. ::)
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BB.com's webcast of the Mr Olympia weekend could be something great. Cicherillo, Shawn, Solomon...
Hopefully, there will be lots of events going on, not only the Mr Olympia, and hopefully bb.com will make news clips from all of these things.
And even put a mic and a cam on the Dynamic Duo: Avidan&Isaac.
They should try it all out at the Shawn Ray Weekend. He's got a lot of different sports going on, a multi fitness expo of sorts.
Perfect time for bb.com to test out a lot of gimmicks and ideas for the big one.
...you hear that Shawn? 8)
-Hedge
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And even put a mic and a cam on the Dynamic Duo: Avidan&Isaac.
Put a candid mic and camera hidden inside Ron's glasses! :D
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IT SUCKS WATCHING IT ON THE COMPUTER GRANTED ITS BETTER THEN NOTHING BUT COME ON TALK ABOUT GOING BACKWARDS.........GOOOD JOB IFBB ONCE AGAIN...
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How the IFBB webcasts are ruining big shows.
BB.com and their webcast will be ruining the Olympia for a 2nd year in a row
First HBE...now them... (Hard Body Ent.)
We had nothing to do with the Webcast last year, or HBE for that matter.
Sad to see how the premier show...once a PPV specatcle, and the staple of the "biz" is now
a little 3x4 inch video on your home PC. ::)
"A PPV spectacle"? When was that, exactly?? The Olympia PPV was never a spectacle, just a move that either broke even or lost money.
First the Arnold lost PPV status...now the Olympia :-\
The promoters of the Arnold didn't lose any status, they decided to PPV the UFC they were running, which made a shitload of money, and handed us the rights to webcast the show...they were very pleased with the decision...
Wayne DeMillia must be laughing his ass off on the BACKWARD-PROGRESS of the IFBB.
I'm fairly sure Wayne isn't doing too much laughing, as he has his hands full with his own business (or lack of)
Discuss
I see it as a great opportunity to start to bring the world of BB, to the masses and build a greater fan base that we need. Since nothing was done over the last 20 years or so to up the level of awareness of professional BB to our own market, we at BB.com see this as the perfect time to embrace the power of the internet and for the first time in history...showcase the Olympia to a worldwide audience...FREE!
Believe me, this is no cheap venture for us...but we are willing to invest in the future of professional BB, and the media exposure it rightfully deserves. Magazines working with the internet, working with the supplement companies all for the common purpose of taking BB out of the stone age, and into your living rooms via the internet.
I see this as a huge step FORWARD...not backwards. We will build it, and they will come.
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Actually Goatboys comment on svideo is new to me......(Im a computer retard) this and the show is free....hmmm, thats cool.
This might just work, chic.
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Actually Goatboys comment on svideo is new to me......(Im a computer retard) this and the show is free....hmmm, thats cool.
This might just work, chic.
Of course it will work...we need to generate interest, plain and simple. Without broadcasting to a larger audience than we have in the past....pro BB would continue it's present, stagnated place.
Making the shows more entertaining....PRE Olympia coverage hyping up the show, showcasing the athletes, giving a chance for the fans to pick their favorites, hate thier villians, route for the nice guy, etc, etc...One of the keys ia PRE, as in NOW....not the BFTO series that we see AFTER the show.
Were talking about a 3 month campaign to highlight the athletes and bring awareness and interest to our sport.....and all of it will be FREE and on Bodybuilding.com weekly!!
THAT'S what I'm talking about!!
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Will you cover the PDI events too, since they have the best BB's in the world?
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Too bad Chick and Bodybuilding Com weren't independent. We might see some interesting broadcasts then.
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I see this as a huge step FORWARD...not backwards.
I agree
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Too bad Chick and Bodybuilding Com weren't independent. We might see some interesting broadcasts then.
We are independant...They aren't telling us how to run our webcast. They have trust in the prescedent we've set in our production quality and the staff from CMG thats runs it.
All the Pre-coverage...I'll be doing personally...traveling around getting real time workouts and in depth interviews with as many of the Olympians as I can.
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We are independant...They aren't telling us how to run our webcast. They have trust in the prescedent we've set in our production quality and the staff from CMG thats runs it.
All the Pre-coverage...I'll be doing personally...traveling around getting real time workouts and in depth interviews with as many of the Olympians as I can.
Look forward to seeing you, soon. Bring your wife okay?
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We are independant...They aren't telling us how to run our webcast. They have trust in the prescedent we've set in our production quality and the staff from CMG thats runs it.
All the Pre-coverage...I'll be doing personally...traveling around getting real time workouts and in depth interviews with as many of the Olympians as I can.
I was wondering how money does BB.com pay to do the webcast to the promoters.
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We are independant...They aren't telling us how to run our webcast. They have trust in the prescedent we've set in our production quality and the staff from CMG thats runs it.
All the Pre-coverage...I'll be doing personally...traveling around getting real time workouts and in depth interviews with as many of the Olympians as I can.
Chick, you are now starting to ignore the comments made by Lee.
Is this trend going to continue?
It appears that Lee likes to bait you and the industry that you represent!
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Look forward to seeing you, soon. Bring your wife okay?
I will...she's the one shooting it!
Onlyme:
Sorry bro..classified info.
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Chick, you are now starting to ignore the comments made by Lee.
Is this trend going to continue?
It appears that Lee likes to bait you and the industry that you represent!
Cant blame him, Lee just does not get it.
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I was wondering how money does BB.com pay to do the webcast to the promoters.
All they have to do is put up a banner in the background and you have a huge new audience wanting to buy protien from bodybuilding.com.......e asy ROI.
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i got the 2002 olympia on PPV and almost fell asleep. even highlights of bodybuilding aren't particularly interesting, but watching 2 1/2 hours of it in a row is just torturous. it's not like a football game where there's tension throughout, maybe there'll be a fumble, holy crap an interception, what do you mean off-sides??, etc. you just watch them stand around flexing for however long and then at the end they tell you who won. i won't watch a full bodybuilding show for free.
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Cant blame him, Lee just does not get it.
Totally agree.
Was interested in how Chick feels about Lee's bitterness and negativity towards the BB industry.
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Totally agree.
Was interested in how Chick feels about Lee's bitterness and negativity towards the BB industry.
Both are bi -products (no pun intended) of his own actions....you reap what you sow.
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Chic, I was at the firehouse 2 months ago and decided to try that rice and steak bowl of yours. That was alot of damn food bro!! Is that a precontest thing or offseason???
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Chic, I was at the firehouse 2 months ago and decided to try that rice and steak bowl of yours. That was alot of damn food bro!! Is that a precontest thing or offseason???
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaa BOB BOWL!!
It's as clean as can be...as long as it meets the portion allowed.
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Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaa BOB BOWL!!
It's as clean as can be...as long as it meets the portion allowed.
That thing had 2 8oz steaks and at 4 cups of rice!!!! It was major good for an off season meal...even clean. But thats half my days allotment for dieting. :'(
How many calories you eat for pre-contest?? Im at 2300 to 2800.
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That thing had 2 8oz steaks and at 4 cups of rice!!!! It was major good for an off season meal...even clean. But thats half my days allotment for dieting. :'(
How many calories you eat for pre-contest?? Im at 2300 to 2800.
2c. of rice.....
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Both are bi -products (no pun intended) of his own actions....you reap what you sow.
Chic, i wasnt expecting such an honest response. Thankyou for being so candid!
Lee has created one big horrible mess for himself.
Lee is not doing himself any favors with the comments he has been making lately!
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Totally agree.
Was interested in how Chick feels about Lee's bitterness and negativity towards the BB industry.
ITS NOT TOWARDS BB COMMUNITY IT TOWARDS THE IFBB.......OK CHICK GET YOUR REPLY FROM THEM AND THEN POST IT WE WILL WAIT...
LEE :)
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2c. of rice.....
Thanks for the complete answer.
Its like you had to run to the shitter or something. :D
Hank: Lee will be fine. Make yourself a glass of herbal tea, start a fire, get some oil and the latest issue of "Mens Fitness" and grab your spiked neck collar, position yourself on the bed and call your boyfriend into the room.
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ITS NOT TOWARDS BB COMMUNITY IT TOWARDS THE IFBB.......OK CHICK GET YOUR REPLY FROM THEM AND THEN POST IT WE WILL WAIT...
LEE :)
You don't have one damn reason to be bitter or negative towards the IFBB.....check the mirror.
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You don't have one damn reason to be bitter or negative towards the IFBB.....check the mirror.
I DO WHEN IN BATHROOM.......AND I AM VERY HAPPY WITH WHAT I SEE....NOW IF I LOOK AND I SEE SOMETHING RESEMBLING YOU LOOKING BACK AT ME I WILL EAT A BULLET.... :)
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I DO WHEN IN BATHROOM.......AND I AM VERY HAPPY WITH WHAT I SEE....NOW IF I LOOK AND I SEE SOMETHING RESEMBLING YOU LOOKING BACK AT ME I WILL EAT A BULLET.... :)
If you see something resembling me looking back, you're standing on top of 12 phonebooks...
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In 1971 Joe told Sergio he couldn't compete in the Olympia. Then they got rid of Serge Nubret who had a strong following in Europe. Shortly after that Ben had his president's position for life which he resigned from recently. It is business as usual in the IFBB. Bob knows that and he is wondering why you can't accept it.
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NO I WOULD PROBALY BE LOOKING IN THE TOILET BOWL YOU PIECE OF SHIT :)............... ;D I FORGOT HOW TALL YOU WERE.....WHAT YOU LACK IN MUSCLE YOU MAKE UP IN HIGHT SO I GUESS YOU ARE VERY TALL :)
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NO I WOULD PROBALY BE LOOKING IN THE TOILET BOWL YOU PIECE OF SHIT :)............... ;D I FORGOT HOW TALL YOU WERE.....WHAT YOU LACK IN MUSCLE YOU MAKE UP IN HIGHT SO I GUESS YOU ARE VERY TALL :)
That was lame...not your best work.
Get over the IFBB thing...I thought you moved on?
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That was lame...not your best work.
Get over the IFBB thing...I thought you moved on?
OH I HAVE BUT WHEN BORED I LIKE TO BRING IT UP....AND YOU JUST KEEP GOING ON ABOUT IT......THE IFBB THAT IS...NOT ABOUT THE ATHLETES AS NORMAL.......
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If you see something resembling me looking back, you're standing on top of 12 phonebooks...
Lol
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OH I HAVE BUT WHEN BORED I LIKE TO BRING IT UP....AND YOU JUST KEEP GOING ON ABOUT IT......THE IFBB THAT IS...NOT ABOUT THE ATHLETES AS NORMAL.......
You seem to be bored quite a lot lately, my friend. At least you'll be busy in Oct. (allegedly)
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You seem to be bored quite a lot lately, my friend. At least you'll be busy in Oct. (allegedly)
OK BOB TIRED GOING TO BED.....GOOD JOB....IFBB WILL BE PROUD TONIGHT OF A JOB WELL DONE.....YOU KEEP YOUR JOB ANOTHER MONTH...
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OK BOB TIRED GOING TO BED.....GOOD JOB....IFBB WILL BE PROUD TONIGHT OF A JOB WELL DONE.....YOU KEEP YOUR JOB ANOTHER MONTH...
...and you'll not have your job for another! ;D
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OK BOB TIRED GOING TO BED.....GOOD JOB....IFBB WILL BE PROUD TONIGHT OF A JOB WELL DONE.....YOU KEEP YOUR JOB ANOTHER MONTH...
Yes, you go to bed Lee.
Go to sleep alone; no wife, no children,no future!
Lock your door of that shitty apartment. Curl up in bed and dream about all those lost opportunities.
Sweet dreams.
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Pro BB will never get mainstream.
Its going backwards.
No one is interested in bb shows besides a very small
obscure minority.
If you run a sucessfull broadcasting company
and some tard comes with an idea about putting
a bb show on prime time they will tell him to get lost.
Average Joes are bored and repulsed by pro BB shows.
Its been declining for 20years now
How can ppl still think pro BB can get popular?
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I think you underestimate what the public would accept. What they don't accept is the fact that the pros use steroids. Can we deny that this is true? When bodybuilding cleans up its act the media and public might accept it. Of course it might be too late to do that. Arnold proved there are exceptions but there doesn't appear to be another muscleman in the media who is a star.
Even kids watching the Olympia on video know the guys juice. The drugs and the lack of testing is what has destroyed bodybuilding. The natural contests don't seem to get much attention although some contests get brief coverage.
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All they have to do is put up a banner in the background and you have a huge new audience wanting to buy protien from bodybuilding.com.......e asy ROI.
What I was getting at was if BB.com webcasts shows like the NY Pro then way hasn't the prize money gone up. It should increase by at least $50,000 per how they webcast. Minimum. Cause like you said, a banner alone for them will turn into revenue.
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Totally agree.
Was interested in how Chick feels about Lee's bitterness and negativity towards the BB industry.
I am pretty sure it isn't the BB idustry Lee has negativity against. It is the IFBB. And if you can't see why there should be negativity against the IFBB then, really, you aren't seeing the real picture.
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Yes, you go to bed Lee.
Go to sleep alone; no wife, no children,no future!
Lock your door of that shitty apartment. Curl up in bed and dream about all those lost opportunities.
Sweet dreams.
I have a feeling you are in love with the IFBB and what it stands for. Now taking that into account, your remarks for now on are meaningless and just for entertainment. I'm glad I finally figured you out.
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HEI CHICK ! HERRE'S A SUGESTION ON HOW TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR THE VIEWER: STOP FUCKING YAPPING DURING THE ROUTINES ! BOTH U AND DAN SOLOMON....FOR FUCKING CRIST SAKE!!!!!!!!!! I WANNA WATCH THE POSING ROUTINE AND LISTEN TO THE MUSIC NOT LISTEN TO U 2 BLABBING...SERIOUSLY IT'S ANNOYING!...HAD TO VENT.
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...and you'll not have your job for another! ;D
I THINK LEE BRINGS ALOT MORE TO THE TABELE THAN BOBOSO,LOL, I HEARD OF LEE THROUGH BODYBUILDING .AND I HEARD OF BOB THROUGH BODYBUILDING.COM
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Maybe there is nothing wrong at all with IFBB! Ever thought of that?
It is what it is! - And that is what makes it unique; that is why we love it!
Pro Bodybuilding will never appeal to the mainstream! And that is what makes it popular to the fringe!
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NAH!!!!!!
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BB is alive and well. There will always be healthy debate and banter. That is good for the sport.
The Lee's and the Bob's will have their little online stoushes. It is fun and entertaining. Events like this is what keeps the sport alive!
BB is not for the mainstream and thank god for that!
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I see it as a great opportunity to start to bring the world of BB, to the masses and build a greater fan base that we need. Since nothing was done over the last 20 years or so to up the level of awareness of professional BB to our own market, we at BB.com see this as the perfect time to embrace the power of the internet and for the first time in history...showcase the Olympia to a worldwide audience...FREE!
Believe me, this is no cheap venture for us...but we are willing to invest in the future of professional BB, and the media exposure it rightfully deserves. Magazines working with the internet, working with the supplement companies all for the common purpose of taking BB out of the stone age, and into your living rooms via the internet.
I see this as a huge step FORWARD...not backwards. We will build it, and they will come.
what he said
also we need new and advanced bodybuilding and fitness channnl 24/7 on cable tv that include all aspect of fitness from trainign to nutrition to competitions,,bodybuilding,,fitness,powerlifting,,strong men/women,,figure,,it should be some combo between playboy and the ifbb,,all hosted by femiliar faces in the industry,,atleast in the usa,,it is very possible with so many people in the usa and overseas that are into their image and physiqe
a chanel like that,,which i say will be there 10 years from now,,will be watched by millions both for the fitness aspect,,diet aspects,, and for the hot chicks later on at night which hopefully can be playboy level,,channel like that will be major attraction in college dorms and in general ages 16-60
it will have tonssss of commercials and money and not only from the bodybuilding supp industry but from every aspect of society,,
you can stretch it to a lot more than only bodybuilding,,you just need arnold,, the moment he stop dreaming about being president,, to put his finger in it and it will be there,, he can even own this channel and all rights to it,,
and the hormones should not be left out,,,there should be specific warnings and all the medical warnings needed and then once twice a week program talking about hormones,,the good,,the bad,,the benefit for bodybuilder,,etc etc ,,talking about it doesnt mean using it! so it is possible same as rappers scream guy and hoe every second on the radio,,or same as your computer is full of very very hard core porn you wouldnt dream of 20 years go,,or same as you have that hilton girl famous for nothing and nicole smith taking gh all over the news,,,everything can go now days and so are hormones as long as you have the right medical warning for script before. it should be about hormones not narcs or pain killers.
also the way to fill in a thing like that 24/7 and bring bodybuilding into main stream big time is,,,,to show local competitions like small ones in michigan or illinois,,,from county to city to state to nationals,,,have people everywhere,,,thats how you get sport into mainstream and not only to florida california and ny,,,
its gonna be there 10-15 years from now,,i just tellin you this in 2007
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what he said
also we need new and advanced bodybuilding and fitness channnl 24/7 on cable tv that include all aspect of fitness from trainign to nutrition to competitions,,bodybuilding,,fitness,powerlifting,,strong men/women,,figure,,it should be some combo between playboy and the ifbb,,all hosted by femiliar faces in the industry,,atleast in the usa,,it is very possible with so many people in the usa and overseas that are into their image and physiqe
a chanel like that,,which i say will be there 10 years from now,,will be watched by millions both for the fitness aspect,,diet aspects,, and for the hot chicks later on at night which hopefully can be playboy level,,channel like that will be major attraction in college dorms and in general ages 16-60
it will have tonssss of commercials and money and not only from the bodybuilding supp industry but from every aspect of society,,
you can stretch it to a lot more than only bodybuilding,,you just need arnold,, the moment he stop dreaming about being president,, to put his finger in it and it will be there,, he can even own this channel and all rights to it,,
and the hormones should not be left out,,,there should be specific warnings and all the medical warnings needed and then once twice a week program talking about hormones,,the good,,the bad,,the benefit for bodybuilder,,etc etc ,,talking about it doesnt mean using it! so it is possible same as rappers scream #### and hoe every second on the radio,,or same as your computer is full of very very hard core porn you wouldnt dream of 20 years go,,or same as you have that hilton girl famous for nothing and nicole smith taking gh all over the news,,,everything can go now days and so are hormones as long as you have the right medical warning for script before. it should be about hormones not narcs or pain killers.
also the way to fill in a thing like that 24/7 and bring bodybuilding into main stream big time is,,,,to show local competitions like small ones in michigan or illinois,,,from county to city to state to nationals,,,have people everywhere,,,thats how you get sport into mainstream and not only to florida california and ny,,,
its gonna be there 10-15 years from now,,i just tellin you this in 2007
You have a lot of good ideas and that is what the sport is lacking at times.
People with ideas,energy and enthusiasm will carry this great sport into the next millenium!
Thankyou for your contribution to this thread. I enjoyed reading your post.
You sound very passionate about BB and that is something to be admired.
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I am pretty sure it isn't the BB idustry Lee has negativity against. It is the IFBB. And if you can't see why there should be negativity against the IFBB then, really, you aren't seeing the real picture.
The IFBB IS pro bodybuilding! Thats the way it is in the world, there are the workers (the pros) and the owners. The same scenario plays out in in every buissness there is. Sorry but if someone does not like it they can quit or move up the ladder.
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I have a feeling you are in love with the IFBB and what it stands for. Now taking that into account, your remarks for now on are meaningless and just for entertainment. I'm glad I finally figured you out.
I hate to say it bro, but that exact post can apply to you as well. You obvously hate the IFBB. So anything that you post comes from the same bias. Theres one major difference between Onlyme and Hank. One of you fellas likes to HATE. The other one of you tries to support and be positive. You figure out who is who. In my book, there aint nothin more useless than a hater. Its some sad shitt to see.
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I hate to say it bro, but that exact post can apply to you as well. You obvously hate the IFBB. So anything that you post comes from the same bias. Theres one major difference between Onlyme and Hank. One of you fellas likes to HATE. The other one of you tries to support and be positive. You figure out who is who. In my book, there aint nothin more useless than a hater. Its some sad shitt to see.
I was surprised and shocked by onlyme's outburst. Yes the guy is full of hatred and loathing for the IFBB.
I myself have been guilty too of spreading hatred. At times the sport frustrates and angers me, to the point where i can let fly in a tirade of disdain.
Look, at the end of the day we all love this sport. Long live bodybuilding.
Onlyme i dont hate you. And please do not interpret this post as an attack on your character. You have made some very worthy contributions to this so-called sport.
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Yes, you go to bed Lee.
Go to sleep alone; no wife, no children,no future!
Lock your door of that shitty apartment. Curl up in bed and dream about all those lost opportunities.
Sweet dreams.
Lee makes more money in 1 year than you'll ever see in your lifetime.
and What opportunity did he lose?
to compete in the ASC or OLYMPIA.... LIVE ON....WEBCAST!!! YAY!!
shit! who wouldn't wanna do that!!?!
reduce yourself to the blurriest form of video on the planet?
hey BB.com, you should do the feed live on Cellular-phone feeds, i think the PC right now is good, but who needs all that quality and size? put it on my phone! ::)
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If you see something resembling me looking back, you're standing on top of 12 phonebooks...
oh chick....that was a knockout
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I was surprised and shocked by onlyme's outburst. Yes the guy is full of hatred and loathing for the IFBB.
I myself have been guilty too of spreading hatred. At times the sport frustrates and angers me, to the point where i can let fly in a tirade of disdain.
Look, at the end of the day we all love this sport. Long live bodybuilding.
Onlyme i dont hate you. And please do not interpret this post as an attack on your character. You have made some very worthy contributions to this so-called sport.
You are fine. I think you guys (or maybe it's me) is misinterpreting what I mean. I do not dislike the IFBB. I dislike the people who run it. I dislike the direction they have taken BB. I dislike the way the treat their members. I like BB and I love training. I have been lifting since the early 70's. And up until 1998 I was in the gym almost everyday. These past 9 years has been very less than productive in the gym but my love for it hasn't changed. I have dealt personally with the people involved with the IFBB and they are spineless punks just like Sean. That is why Sean is the perfect spokesperson for the IFBB. He is exactly what they stand for, SHIT. If Manion and the Weiders were gone and someone was running the IFBB who actually cares for their members and wants them to have a future both financially and physically then BB would be great. But these people have ruined it and have made it embarrassing.
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You are fine. I think you guys (or maybe it's me) is misinterpreting what I mean. I do not dislike the IFBB. I dislike the people who run it. I dislike the direction they have taken BB. I dislike the way the treat their members. I like BB and I love training. I have been lifting since the early 70's. And up until 1998 I was in the gym almost everyday. These past 9 years has been very less than productive in the gym but my love for it hasn't changed. I have dealt personally with the people involved with the IFBB and they are spineless punks just like Sean. That is why Sean is the perfect spokesperson for the IFBB. He is exactly what they stand for, SHIT. If Manion and the Weiders were gone and someone was running the IFBB who actually cares for their members and wants them to have a future both financially and physically then BB would be great. But these people have ruined it and have made it embarrassing.
i know what you mean.
Jealousy, backstabbing, and talking behind the other person's back, are key elements in bodybuilding. not just IFBB, but local organizations too. This is why the sport will never progress, because everyone is in it for the quick buck, and they don't give a shit about the other guy
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A PPV spectacle"? When was that, exactly?? The Olympia PPV was never a spectacle, just a move that either broke even or lost money.
I believe they are referring to the fact that due to technical problems which Flex Wheeler's company blamed on Embarq, the feed was terrible and didn't play for many people.
You were at the O and probably weren't aware of it. But the online community who didn't make the trip was very aware that the webcast, which cost $24, was terrible. By now you may have heard the flippant way it was handled by Flex as well.
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Chick: A PPV spectacle"? When was that, exactly?? The Olympia PPV was never a spectacle, just a move that either broke even or lost money.
When was it a spectacle? when people used to ORDER IT ON PPV, and it was FUN TO WACTCH! Those were the days when people appreciated clear picture, now you've given us a webcast that rivals the quality of a 1970's color tv! wooooooh!
PS- just in case you forgot, i have a nack for remembering the oddest stuff. you said on PBW: the show following the 2006 Olympia
"i don't care what anyone says, the Olmypia is the Olympia and it should be on pay-perview" [something along those lines]
(after you acknoledged the complaints of the webcast viewers that episode)
so now only 7 months later your "happy to announce" that BB.com has decided to try and ruin it! yay! atleast this time i can be mad that i watched a shit broadcast for 25$ less than last year. ::)
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Chick: A PPV spectacle"? When was that, exactly?? The Olympia PPV was never a spectacle, just a move that either broke even or lost money.
When was it a spectacle? when people used to ORDER IT ON PPV, and it was FUN TO WACTCH! Those were the days when people appreciated clear picture, now you've given us a webcast that rivals the quality of a 1970's color tv! wooooooh!
PS- just in case you forgot, i have a nack for remembering the oddest stuff. you said on PBW: the show following the 2006 Olympia
"i don't care what anyone says, the Olmypia is the Olympia and it should be on pay-perview" [something along those lines]
(after you acknoledged the complaints of the webcast viewers that episode)
so now only 7 months later your "happy to announce" that BB.com has decided to try and ruin it! yay! atleast this time i can be mad that i watched a shit broadcast for 25$ less than last year. ::)
When Wayne promoted the Olympia it was great. It has steadily gone downhill since. It was his money and his production. Chic says the IFBB backed Wayne. How exactly did they back him. Chic pops off so much shit on here that has no merit its unreal. What did the IFBB do. Did they give Wayne any money. Did they provide FREE volunteers. NO on all those questions. Did they give Wayne a great deal on the sanction fee........NO. How exactly did they help him? Did they pay for the ads in the mags..........NO. Hopefully Chic isn't trying to compare the BB.com webcast to PPV. He can't be that dumb.
Wayne went first class and now since NO ONE at the IFBB knows how to promote it is a third class show. Pure and simple. The most prestigious event in BB history and it is conducted at a local off the strip hotel. Good move. Wayne would rather take a personal loss of money in order to produce a first class show and the IFBB would rather try to save money at the expense of the fans and competitors. How do you fight that Chic. You can't. you know it, you just can't admit it. Thats what is sad.
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If you see something resembling me looking back, you're standing on top of 12 phonebooks...
As a Priest fan, and someone that is the same height, I still have to say I LMFAO at this! ;D
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As a Priest fan, and someone that is the same height, I still have to say I LMFAO at this! ;D
if only he could come up with solutions to the bullshit in the IFBB right now, the way he does his zingy 1-liners...
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if only he could come up with solutions to the bullshit in the IFBB right now, the way he does his zingy 1-liners...
It's allot like Sean. When they don't have the answer or they know they are wrong, the question gets ignored and the one-liners start.
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If you see something resembling me looking back, you're standing on top of 12 phonebooks...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, sorry Lee but that was funny ;D
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Webcasting is in its infancy now. They are getting better and better each time they do it. They just introduced an upcoming product, which can data download speed of 150 megabits per second, roughly 25 times faster than today's standard cable modems. In a few years, these webcasts will be tremendous. For now, they are quite good, for those who cannot make it to the show, thanks to bb.com, you can see the show, and argue over which competitors was better online. But there is nothing like the real show, being there, the hype, the experience, etc.
I am very grateful for these webcasts, and the effort taken by the promoters, hosts and bb.com and others to make it work. It isnt cheap, the equipment, the linefeed, the expenses to make it happen.
HEI CHICK ! HERRE'S A SUGESTION ON HOW TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR THE VIEWER: STOP FUCKING YAPPING DURING THE ROUTINES ! BOTH U AND DAN SOLOMON....FOR FUCKING CRIST SAKE!!!!!!!!!! I WANNA WATCH THE POSING ROUTINE AND LISTEN TO THE MUSIC NOT LISTEN TO U 2 BLABBING...SERIOUSLY IT'S ANNOYING!...HAD TO VENT.
You cant watch the posing routine anyway, and with some of the music that is so slow, it is interesting to hear the commentary of Dan and Bob. They are pretty good in talking when the music is so slow, and quiet when there is actually an entertaining routine.
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When Wayne promoted the Olympia it was great. It has steadily gone downhill since. It was his money and his production. Chic says the IFBB backed Wayne. How exactly did they back him. Chic pops off so much shit on here that has no merit its unreal. What did the IFBB do. Did they give Wayne any money. Did they provide FREE volunteers. NO on all those questions. Did they give Wayne a great deal on the sanction fee........NO. How exactly did they help him? Did they pay for the ads in the mags..........NO. Hopefully Chic isn't trying to compare the BB.com webcast to PPV. He can't be that dumb.
I thought YOU couldn't be that dumb, or niave for that matter. Please, having the IFBB as your backer, being the pres. of the IFBB, and having the clout of the IFBB was EVERYTHING, as evidenced by the floundering of the PDI and the grand total of 0 major sponsors.
Wayne went first class and now since NO ONE at the IFBB knows how to promote it is a third class show. Pure and simple. The most prestigious event in BB history and it is conducted at a local off the strip hotel. Good move. Wayne would rather take a personal loss of money in order to produce a first class show and the IFBB would rather try to save money at the expense of the fans and competitors. How do you fight that Chic. You can't. you know it, you just can't admit it. Thats what is sad.
Whats sad is that you cant see the forrest for the trees, big man....the show isn't at a hotel, it's at the Orleans Arena which is a perfect setup and layout for the stage, etc....The hotel itself isn't that great, but , no one is forced to stay there either...I don't.
The EXPO is bigger and beter than it ever was, with more booths/ sponsors... and the show itself has set new attendance recors for the past two years...this year will be SOLD OUT.
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Again where was the IFBB backing Wayne. You didn't say one thing. Being the President didn't get him a discount anywhere. Paying the IFBB almost $300,000 to put on the Olympia doesn't sound like a deal. They took a percentage not a flat fee. Manion charged over $40,000 using the money that could have gone to the athletes for his personal pleasure and NOTHING to do with the IFBB or BB. 100% for his personal use. The IFBB doesn't even donate any money for trophies. NO free ads or anything. Please tell everyone how the IFBB back Wayne and then tell us how they backed Wayne but not Weinberger. Thanks for the response. By the way I wish you weren't so blinded and influenced by them, you are a good guy. Don't get like Sean.
The Orleans is listed as the Host Hotel. Thus it is at the Orleans. The Arena is part of the Orleans. The expo can't help but be great. but having it 5+ miles from the Orleans wasn't the best idea. The convention center is an awesome place though I give it that.
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Again where was the IFBB backing Wayne. You didn't say one thing. Being the President didn't get him a discount anywhere. Paying the IFBB almost $300,000 to put on the Olympia doesn't sound like a deal. They took a percentage not a flat fee. Manion charged over $40,000 using the money that could have gone to the athletes for his personal pleasure and NOTHING to do with the IFBB or BB. 100% for his personal use. The IFBB doesn't even donate any money for trophies. NO free ads or anything. Please tell everyone how the IFBB back Wayne and then tell us how they backed Wayne but not Weinberger. Thanks for the response. By the way I wish you weren't so blinded and influenced by them, you are a good guy. Don't get like Sean.
The Orleans is listed as the Host Hotel. Thus it is at the Orleans. The Arena is part of the Orleans. The expo can't help but be great. but having it 5+ miles from the Orleans wasn't the best idea. The convention center is an awesome place though I give it that.
Kieth knows this because he stayed at a holiday inn last night.
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Again where was the IFBB backing Wayne. You didn't say one thing. Being the President didn't get him a discount anywhere. Paying the IFBB almost $300,000 to put on the Olympia doesn't sound like a deal. They took a percentage not a flat fee. Manion charged over $40,000 using the money that could have gone to the athletes for his personal pleasure and NOTHING to do with the IFBB or BB. 100% for his personal use. The IFBB doesn't even donate any money for trophies. NO free ads or anything. Please tell everyone how the IFBB back Wayne and then tell us how they backed Wayne but not Weinberger. Thanks for the response. By the way I wish you weren't so blinded and influenced by them, you are a good guy. Don't get like Sean.
The Orleans is listed as the Host Hotel. Thus it is at the Orleans. The Arena is part of the Orleans. The expo can't help but be great. but having it 5+ miles from the Orleans wasn't the best idea. The convention center is an awesome place though I give it that.
Being the president of the IFBB is a very influential position, Wayne had a lot he was in charge of and having the clout of the IFBB behind him was a big advantage...sponsorships are where the money is, it doesn't take a genius to figure this one out.
Where are the great shows now? If Wayne is the super promoter you say he is, and being the pres of the IFBB was ofno advantage...why the lack of sponsors, shows, attendance?
Use your head...
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Being the president of the IFBB is a very influential position, Wayne had a lot he was in charge of and having the clout of the IFBB behind him was a big advantage...sponsorships are where the money is, it doesn't take a genius to figure this one out.
Where are the great shows now? If Wayne is the super promoter you say he is, and being the pres of the IFBB was ofno advantage...why the lack of sponsors, shows, attendance?
Use your head...
SIMPLE THE IFBB THREATEN EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO SPONSOR PDI....AND DONT EVEN SAY THEY DONT YOU DIP SHIT
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SIMPLE THE IFBB THREATEN EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO SPONSOR PDI....AND DONT EVEN SAY THEY DONT YOU DIP SHIT
Yeah..keep telling yourself that.
Wake up and smell the ink on your face Dr. Loveless...companies don't want to be associated as there is zero return, no media coverage, and Wayne to work with.
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Yeah..keep telling yourself that.
Wake up and smell the ink on your face Dr. Loveless...companies don't want to be associated as there is zero return, no media coverage, and Wayne to work with.
BOB I HAVE SPOKEN TO A FEW COMPANIES WHO HAVE TOLD ME ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE TOLD FROM THE IFBB........LONIE WAS TOLD BY BALIK HE COULDNT MENTION PDI CASUE OF HIS IRONMAN SHOW.........AMI WILL NOT COVER IT.......BUT THESE MAGS COVER NATURAL SHOWS AND OTHER ORGS.........LETS SEE ARNOLD WINNER LINKED TO STERIOD SCANDAL.......IFBB JUDGE AND GYM OWNER NOW LINKED TO STERIOD SCANDAL ....WHY WOULD AND SPONSOR WANT TO BE APART OF THE IFBB........BUNCH OF WANNA BE GANGSTERS
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BOB I HAVE SPOKEN TO A FEW COMPANIES WHO HAVE TOLD ME ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE TOLD FROM THE IFBB........LONIE WAS TOLD BY BALIK HE COULDNT MENTION PDI CASUE OF HIS IRONMAN SHOW.........AMI WILL NOT COVER IT.......BUT THESE MAGS COVER NATURAL SHOWS AND OTHER ORGS.........LETS SEE ARNOLD WINNER LINKED TO STERIOD SCANDAL.......IFBB JUDGE AND GYM OWNER NOW LINKED TO STERIOD SCANDAL ....WHY WOULD AND SPONSOR WANT TO BE APART OF THE IFBB........BUNCH OF WANNA BE GANGSTERS
Sounds like you have an issue with the supplement companies and who they choose to support...take it up with them. If they don't want to be a part of the IFBB, then I'm sure they wouldn't be...no one is forcing their hand...just like you, Lee...you had a choice...you didn't like being a part of the club, so you left.
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BOB I HAVE SPOKEN TO A FEW COMPANIES WHO HAVE TOLD ME ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE TOLD FROM THE IFBB........LONIE WAS TOLD BY BALIK HE COULDNT MENTION PDI CASUE OF HIS IRONMAN SHOW.........AMI WILL NOT COVER IT.......BUT THESE MAGS COVER NATURAL SHOWS AND OTHER ORGS.........LETS SEE ARNOLD WINNER LINKED TO STERIOD SCANDAL.......IFBB JUDGE AND GYM OWNER NOW LINKED TO STERIOD SCANDAL ....WHY WOULD AND SPONSOR WANT TO BE APART OF THE IFBB........BUNCH OF WANNA BE GANGSTERS
you beat and literally shit on your women, you should be talking ::)
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Sounds like you have an issue with the supplement companies and who they choose to support...take it up with them. If they don't want to be a part of the IFBB, then I'm sure they wouldn't be...no one is forcing their hand...just like you, Lee...you had a choice...you didn't like being a part of the club, so you left.
GOOD DIVERT AGAIN BOB...
SUSHI....ON THE RADIO LAST WEEK BOB ASKED ADELA SHE SAID I NEVER DID...GOOD TRY
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GOOD DIVERT AGAIN BOB...
SUSHI....ON THE RADIO LAST WEEK BOB ASKED ADELA SHE SAID I NEVER DID...GOOD TRY
Check that, bro..I never asked her that as it would have been inappropriote...she brought it up herself. Just setting the record straight.
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Check that, bro..I never asked her that as it would have been inappropriote...she brought it up herself. Just setting the record straight.
YOU ASKED ABOUT RUMORS..IF YOU WANT TO BE PRECISE AND SHE ANSWERED ABOUT IT...SORRY BOB FOR NOT BE EXACT.........DIP SHIT AGAIN
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Check that, bro..I never asked her that as it would have been inappropriote...she brought it up herself. Just setting the record straight.
are you suggesting that adela may have been threatened by someone 12 phone books short of you if she didn't clear the air?
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YOU ASKED ABOUT RUMORS..IF YOU WANT TO BE PRECISE AND SHE ANSWERED ABOUT IT...SORRY BOB FOR NOT BE EXACT.........DIP SHIT AGAIN
It was addressed at Adelas request...no need to get snippy, dippy.
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Being the president of the IFBB is a very influential position, Wayne had a lot he was in charge of and having the clout of the IFBB behind him was a big advantage...sponsorships are where the money is, it doesn't take a genius to figure this one out.
Where are the great shows now? If Wayne is the super promoter you say he is, and being the pres of the IFBB was ofno advantage...why the lack of sponsors, shows, attendance?
Use your head...
Chic come on this is your come back. I figured more from you or Manion. I must really have come up with a hard one here. Those sponsors were there because of the show not the IFBB. The Olympia got all the press and is the biggest BB show of the year. That is why the sponsors were there. And how you bring up sponsors for the PDI when it is a FACT everyone one of them were threatened if they helped Wayne. You know that and so does everyone else. Don't try to deny it cause it makes you look really bad and dumb. And yes despite all the IFBB bullying last year, Wayne still pulled off shows that paid more in prize money than 95% of all IFBB shows. And don't speak about attendance. The Colorado Pro, Atlanta and other show the IFBB had were embarrassing in attendance numbers. And they have a 50 year head start on the PDI. How embarassing is that. How much was the prize money for the NOC when Wayne did it compared to the NY Pro now. I don't know but I hope it isn't less or the IFBB should be burying their heads in the dirt. So far you are losing this battle, but you are my friend so if you need some water I will give it to you.
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Chick, you have a quick wit and some funny one-liners.
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Webcasting is in its infancy now. They are getting better and better each time they do it. They just introduced an upcoming product, which can data download speed of 150 megabits per second, roughly 25 times faster than today's standard cable modems. In a few years, these webcasts will be tremendous. For now, they are quite good, for those who cannot make it to the show, thanks to bb.com, you can see the show, and argue over which competitors was better online. But there is nothing like the real show, being there, the hype, the experience, etc.
I am very grateful for these webcasts, and the effort taken by the promoters, hosts and bb.com and others to make it work. It isnt cheap, the equipment, the linefeed, the expenses to make it happen.
You cant watch the posing routine anyway, and with some of the music that is so slow, it is interesting to hear the commentary of Dan and Bob. They are pretty good in talking when the music is so slow, and quiet when there is actually an entertaining routine.
Again ron...I WANNA LISTEN TO THE MUSIC AND WATCH THE POSING ROUTINE NOT LISTEN TO THE 2 OF THEM TALKING....I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY SAY...SAY IT BEFOREHAND AND AFTERWARDS BUT NOT! DURING THE MUSIC...WHY EVEN BOTHER WITH THE MUSIC?...JUST HIT SOME POSES AND LISTEN TO BOB AND DAN SHOW !...
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Chick, you have a quick wit and some funny one-liners.
YEA AND BOB CHICK CONTINUES TO WEAR HIS BOXERS BACKWARDS(G4P)IM SURE.LEE PRIEST RULES.
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Yes, i think we all agree that Lee Priest has the biggest set of balls in the industry. However, he is PDI now. Lee must get over his hating-obsession with the IFBB.
Lee, stop the IFBB related posts!
I thought you would have moved on by now?
LEE, is the anger and bitterness that you direct towards the IFBB, just a diversion for the internal misery you are harbouring within?
Think about it?
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Yes, i think we all agree that Lee Priest has the biggest set of balls in the industry. However, he is PDI now. Lee must get over his hating-obsession with the IFBB.
Lee, stop the IFBB related posts!
I thought you would have moved on by now?
LEE, is the anger and bitterness that you direct towards the IFBB, just a diversion for the internal misery you are harbouring within?
Think about it?
NO NOT AT ALL....ITS ABOUT THE IFBB BEING FUCKIN IDIOTS AND THE ATHLETES PUTTING UP WITH THE CRAP.............AND WE WILL NOT EVEN MENTION BOB THE ATHL.....OH I MEAN IFBB REP
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NO NOT AT ALL....ITS ABOUT THE IFBB BEING FUCKIN IDIOTS AND THE ATHLETES PUTTING UP WITH THE CRAP.............AND WE WILL NOT EVEN MENTION BOB THE ATHL.....OH I MEAN IFBB REP
Speakin of BOB...
Hey bob, read back on PG. 3
where i mentioned you saying Olympia needs to be on PPV (your words from PBW)
this was mentioned after the Hardbody Disaster of a Broadcast.
care to comment?
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Speakin of BOB...
Hey bob, read back on PG. 3
where i mentioned you saying Olympia needs to be on PPV (your words from PBW)
this was mentioned after the Hardbody Disaster of a Broadcast.
care to comment?
What SHOULD happen and what is reality are not necessarily the same thing. Yes, I would love to see the Olympia on PPV, for that matter, I would love to see it prime time on ABC Wide World of Sports...but we have to build it up to a respectable fan base in order for those options to become viable.
Right now, we have a great opportunity to bring Pro BB to a worldwide audience and showcase the athletes (bring more interest) BEFORE the Olympia...I believe this is essential in bringing new fans into the sport and along with it, more sponsors.
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What SHOULD happen and what is reality are not necessarily the same thing. Yes, I would love to see the Olympia on PPV, for that matter, I would love to see it prime time on ABC Wide World of Sports...but we have to build it up to a respectable fan base in order for those options to become viable.
Right now, we have a great opportunity to bring Pro BB to a worldwide audience and showcase the athletes (bring more interest) BEFORE the Olympia...I believe this is essential in bringing new fans into the sport and along with it, more sponsors.
More fans, yes for sure...webcast all the other shows...ironman, NY...Montreal, Atlantic city...i don't care, but how do you expect to give the Olympia the monacre of "top show" when it's on the same level as the others??? not to mention it's been around for 40 years! and has been on PPV before, now you've downgraded to Webcast?
Even if it is "good" for sponsors, many people won't want to watch it,simply because they
1) don't have the means to hook up the PC to the TV
2) don't want to worry about lagging broadcasts / blurry images
so by "reaching the masses" your pissing off alot of people. why not just put it on PPV, for the same price as HBE or little less.
its like someone mentioned in another thread
20,000 viewers at 20.00$ (400,000.00$)
1,000,000 viewers at FREE (0$)
hopefully the sponsors are putting up shitloads of money for the expected "exposure"
but when you think of it...if people who are too cheap to order a PPV event, but watch a FREE webcast, what good is that to the supplement companies / sponsors?
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More fans, yes for sure...webcast all the other shows...ironman, NY...Montreal, Atlantic city...i don't care, but how do you expect to give the Olympia the monacre of "top show" when it's on the same level as the others??? not to mention it's been around for 40 years! and has been on PPV before, now you've downgraded to Webcast?
Even if it is "good" for sponsors, many people won't want to watch it,simply because they
1) don't have the means to hook up the PC to the TV
2) don't want to worry about lagging broadcasts / blurry images
so by "reaching the masses" your pissing off alot of people. why not just put it on PPV, for the same price as HBE or little less.
its like someone mentioned in another thread
20,000 viewers at 20.00$ (400,000.00$)
1,000,000 viewers at FREE (0$)
hopefully the sponsors are putting up shitloads of money for the expected "exposure"
but when you think of it...if people who are too cheap to order a PPV event, but watch a FREE webcast, what good is that to the supplement companies / sponsors?
PPV is not free to produce..it's very costly and the retun in some of the years was a loss.
The Superbowl is on TV, just like the other NFL games...for FREE. I don't see people bitching for it to go to PPV...same principle. Yes, I realise one's TV and the other is the internet...same principle.
It wasn't our call to not PPV it...were doing what we can to bring it to a worldwide audience, and right now that is via the internet on BB.com.
A lot more people are glad that it's being broadcast on Webcast, than are pissed off it's not on PPV. Where were your "20,000" people when it WAS on PPV?
All things considered, I still believe this is a necessary move in order to move forward for the future.
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PPV is not free to produce..it's very costly and the retun in some of the years was a loss.
The Superbowl is on TV, just like the other NFL games...for FREE. I don't see people bitching for it to go to PPV...same principle. Yes, I realise one's TV and the other is the internet...same principle.
It wasn't our call to not PPV it...were doing what we can to bring it to a worldwide audience, and right now that is via the internet on BB.com.
A lot more people are glad that it's being broadcast on Webcast, than are pissed off it's not on PPV. Where were your "20,000" people when it WAS on PPV?
All things considered, I still believe this is a necessary move in order to move forward for the future.
in the words of Ace Venutra....
ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLL RIGHTY-THEN!
:P
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Bob's right. The technology is going the webcast way....the "free" way!!
Now with computers integrating with T.V's and faster bandwidths apound the corner.......and things like youtube changing the way the world has to do business.......good stuff.
However the sad truth is the IFBB, AMI.... are simply the Walmarts of business.....They are huge enough to dominate a market and because they satisfy your needs, you shop there, keeping them growing.
Yes, like most big business they can threaten behind the scenes,,,any competition and do lots of dirty work!!!!
History shows eventually that a monarchy soon creates a mutiny and the kings are killed...........
Im for the PDI and if they ever have a show in my area...Ill be there.
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What SHOULD happen and what is reality are not necessarily the same thing. Yes, I would love to see the Olympia on PPV, for that matter, I would love to see it prime time on ABC Wide World of Sports...but we have to build it up to a respectable fan base in order for those options to become viable.
Right now, we have a great opportunity to bring Pro BB to a worldwide audience and showcase the athletes (bring more interest) BEFORE the Olympia...I believe this is essential in bringing new fans into the sport and along with it, more sponsors.
Well there have been how many Mr. Olympia's so far, 40 or so. Can you maybe give us a timeline when the IFBB will start building the fan base up to make it viable. Would you say around 2099 just in time for the next century to kick in. Thanks for your input, we'' wait for you to get your answer from Manion ;D
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PPV is not free to produce..it's very costly and the retun in some of the years was a loss.
The Superbowl is on TV, just like the other NFL games...for FREE. I don't see people bitching for it to go to PPV...same principle. Yes, I realise one's TV and the other is the internet...same principle.
It wasn't our call to not PPV it...were doing what we can to bring it to a worldwide audience, and right now that is via the internet on BB.com.
A lot more people are glad that it's being broadcast on Webcast, than are pissed off it's not on PPV. Where were your "20,000" people when it WAS on PPV?
All things considered, I still believe this is a necessary move in order to move forward for the future.
It is aired to us for free but it is far from actually being free. The network pays hundreds of millions of dollars for the right to air the games. This money is shared between the NFL, owners, teams and players. That is why I wanted to know how much BB.com is paying the IFBB for the rights to air this and why isn't the money being paid distributed to the athletes who are competing. Why does the IFBB keep it all and not raise the prize money. If the IFBB isn't getting a minimum of $100,000 from BB.com then there people (IFBB) are some of the dumbest in the industry and know I understand why BB is where it is and the prize money is where it is. Bob this is something you need to concentrate on. I also understand why you have to be so diplomatic. You have so many conflicts of interests here its unreal. You are an IFBB pro, you are the IFBB Rep, you are an executive with BB.com, you are the annoucer, you host a radio show and you are the public mouth for Manion. No wonder why you can't do your job for the IFBB members the way it should be.
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It is aired to us for free but it is far from actually being free. The network pays hundreds of millions of dollars for the right to air the games. This money is shared between the NFL, owners, teams and players. That is why I wanted to know how much BB.com is paying the IFBB for the rights to air this and why isn't the money being paid distributed to the athletes who are competing. Why does the IFBB keep it all and not raise the prize money. If the IFBB isn't getting a minimum of $100,000 from BB.com then there people (IFBB) are some of the dumbest in the industry and know I understand why BB is where it is and the prize money is where it is. Bob this is something you need to concentrate on. I also understand why you have to be so diplomatic. You have so many conflicts of interests here its unreal. You are an IFBB pro, you are the IFBB Rep, you are an executive with BB.com, you are the annoucer, you host a radio show and you are the public mouth for Manion. No wonder why you can't do your job for the IFBB members the way it should be.
The IFBB isn't geting a dime of it...They have nothing to do with it.
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The IFBB isn't geting a dime of it...They have nothing to do with it.
so how do they make their money?
sanction fee's?
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The IFBB isn't geting a dime of it...They have nothing to do with it.
Well then that could be the problem. Are the checks going directly to Manion.
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Well then that could be the problem. Are the checks going directly to Manion.
Manion has nothing to do with it, either....
This contract is betweem Robin Chang and BB.com....as Robin is the promoter, it's his show to run as he sees fit, and as he feels it benefits the production value, etc..
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Robins amazing. ::)
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Manion has nothing to do with it, either....
This contract is betweem Robin Chang and BB.com....as Robin is the promoter, it's his show to run as he sees fit, and as he feels it benefits the production value, etc..
Even worse. So at a time when BB is getting lower and lower instead of trying to make it better Chang moves the venue to save money, plus he has additonal money coming in from a new sponsor BB.com yet none of this money is used to make the prize money more for the athletes. It must be nice to sacrifice the athletes and the show to pocket some extra cash. Who was the genius to make Chang the boss. Fire them whoever it was.
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Even worse. So at a time when BB is getting lower and lower instead of trying to make it better Chang moves the venue to save money, plus he has additonal money coming in from a new sponsor BB.com yet none of this money is used to make the prize money more for the athletes. It must be nice to sacrifice the athletes and the show to pocket some extra cash. Who was the genius to make Chang the boss. Fire them whoever it was.
We don't know if it's "additional" money...it may be the same money, and the prize money may be raised again this year FYI...
You sound more foolish with every post....
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We don't know if it's "additional" money...it may be the same money, and the prize money may be raised again this year FYI...
You sound more foolish with every post....
Actually, he makes you more foolish with every post. Why are we still at the shithole "Orleans Casino" If you guys control every sponser on earth..........Wheres the benjamins, going brah.
Actually , i dont care. Im not depending on "shmoeworld" to support me. ;D
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Actually, he makes you more foolish with every post. Why are we still at the shithole "Orleans Casino" If you guys control every sponser on earth..........Wheres the benjamins, going brah.
Actually , i dont care. Im not depending on "shmoeworld" to support me. ;D
Were not...were at the Orleans arena, which is a top notch arena for the Olympia and many other sporting events...the Orleans HOTEL and Casino isn't that great, but people can stay whereever they wish...
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Were not...were at the Orleans arena, which is a top notch arena for the Olympia and many other sporting events...the Orleans HOTEL and Casino isn't that great, but people can stay whereever they wish...
Cool sign me up!! ;D Will they have a transport service to get us to the expo so you guys can make a ton of money.?
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Cool sign me up!! ;D Will they have a transport service to get us to the expo so you guys can make a ton of money.?
Yes, they have buses that run evry 10-15 minutes...
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Yes, they have buses that run evry 10-15 minutes...
15 minutes? who's got that kind of time! lol :D
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Of course Chick will defend the Orleans. He has a vested interest.
The arena is a disgrace. The atmosphere is non existant. It is devoid of ambience.
A change of venue is needed.
I think the event should be taken on the road. It should go international.
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webcasts are great...i don't have to leave the house, pay for hotel, pay for airfare, pay for food, deal with traffic and cabs, i can sit and watch it all for free...how bodybuilding.com makes money guess only chickerillo knows...promoters should be furious as they have to be losing their asses on ticket sales from these things.
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webcasts are great...i don't have to leave the house, pay for hotel, pay for airfare, pay for food, deal with traffic and cabs, i can sit and watch it all for free...how bodybuilding.com makes money guess only chickerillo knows...promoters should be furious as they have to be losing their asses on ticket sales from these things.
how would you lose ticket sales if you Hold a show like the NY pro, in NYC, but you live in Texas (for example...)? it's not like all tickets are bought from out-of-towners.
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webcasts are great...i don't have to leave the house, pay for hotel, pay for airfare, pay for food, deal with traffic and cabs, i can sit and watch it all for free...how bodybuilding.com makes money guess only chickerillo knows...promoters should be furious as they have to be losing their asses on ticket sales from these things.
No one is losing their ass...just the opposite.
The Webcasts have served to make more people aware of the shows. Even though it's a great media outlet, it's not like being there...much like going to a NFL game vs watching it on TV for free...stands are still full, ratings are still high.
This also gives a great opportunity to all our fans accross the world to see the show...for most, it's simply not feasable to travel to all the shows.
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No one is losing their ass...just the opposite.
The Webcasts have served to make more people aware of the shows. Even though it's a great media outlet, it's not like being there...much like going to a NFL game vs watching it on TV for free...stands are still full, ratings are still high.
This also gives a great opportunity to all our fans accross the world to see the show...for most, it's simply not feasable to travel to all the shows.
Good point. Being in England the only show i've got to look forwad to is the PDI Priest fest - so i welcome the webcasts. The commentary is always shit though. [joke]