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Good riddance she devil.........
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275552,00.html
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Good riddance she devil.........
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275552,00.html
Dude help a brother out....why do you paste 2500 words from Rush but can't even cut and paste the jist of this article so I don't have to click the link? At least a summary.
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Dude help a brother out....why do you paste 2500 words from Rush but can't even cut and paste the jist of this article so I don't have to click the link? At least a summary.
Rosie O'Donnell was "asked" to leave early from the View
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Rosie O'Donnell was "asked" to leave early from the View
Thanks man, see that is so much better!
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Rosie O'Donnell was "asked" to leave early from the View
Good to know that this matters to you. Must be one of your favorite shows.
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Good to know that this matters to you. Must be one of your favorite shows.
Wow that was a really good comeback, I mean it.....like wow, I should give you more credit...I mean I'm sure the Coach can barely contain his embarrassment.
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Wow that was a really good comeback, I mean it.....like wow, I should give you more credit...I mean I'm sure the Coach can barely contain his embarrassment.
Are you like the new intellectual around here? :D
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Are you like the new intellectual around here? :D
Dude's in the military. How intellectual is that?
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Coach, if you hate Rosie so much why keep giving her more publicity. She thrives off of other's hate. I am glad to see you not posting Rush transcripts on this one though because I am sure he has something on his site concerning this.
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Dude's in the military. How intellectual is that?
Why bash military people?
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Why bash military people?
Volunteer army during unnecessary invasion and war- these guys are no heroes.
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Volunteer army during unnecessary invasion and war- these guys are no heroes.
Right, ok I see what kind of person you are. So anyone that doesn't believe as you do is an idiot? nice
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Dude's in the military. How intellectual is that?
Military people are the prime examples of high intellectual capacity in the human race
(http://angelsviewweddingchapel.com.concentric.com/military2.jpg)
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Right, ok I see what kind of person you are. So anyone that doesn't believe as you do is an idiot? nice
Someone who volunteers to go kill Iraqis as part of our invasion is no hero.
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Someone who volunteers to go kill Iraqis as part of our invasion is no hero.
hey fool, we aren't killing Iraqis, we are killing insurgents...look that word up and then we will continue.
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hey fool, we aren't killing Iraqis, we are killing insurgents...look that word up and then we will continue.
It's funny to see how you try to play the "superior intellect" against someone who's a lot smarter than you ;D
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It's funny to see how you try to play the "superior intellect" against someone who's a lot smarter than you ;D
LOL, I see you are as "smart" as he is, Don't tell me you also think we are fighting Iraqis....
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hey coach, has your Oreilly girl Michelle Malkin accused the US Govt of covering up 9/11 lately?
ouch!
No offense, but malkin actually went further than Rosie in her accusations. Rosie has talked about building integrity and the fact there is no official report on WTC7. Malkin talked about murder and coverups and lies in official reports.
You've been sleeping with the enemy in a sense, Joe ;)
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LOL, I see you are as "smart" as he is, Don't tell me you also think we are fighting Iraqis....
I'm just making a simple observation regarding your attitude. My views regarding the war are totally irrelevant.
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I'm just making a simple observation regarding your attitude. My views regarding the war are totally irrelevant.
I can see I am going to have to feel you out before passing judgement
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I can see I am going to have to feel you out before passing judgement
:D
(http://angelsviewweddingchapel.com.concentric.com/military2.jpg)
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:D
(http://angelsviewweddingchapel.com.concentric.com/military2.jpg)
actually that picture is funny
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hey fool, we aren't killing Iraqis, we are killing insurgents...look that word up and then we will continue.
Clue- there are no insurgents because there is no legitimate government. There's only the puppet government that the U.S. proped up after destroying their legitimate government. Americans are killing Iraqis, and Iraqis are defending their country against the invaders (along with killing each other in the civil war the U.S. created).
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Clue- there are no insurgents because there is no legitimate government. There's only the puppet government that the U.S. proped up after destroying their legitimate government. Americans are killing Iraqis, and Iraqis are defending their country against the invaders (along with killing each other in the civil war the U.S. created).
As much as I would love to disagree with your statement, I unfortunately have to agree.
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back to the original topic.........
didnt rosie quit? i just saw something about it on CNN and it said she quit because of the argument she had with the cute chick on the view.
they also said something about rosie defacing some some publicity shots at the station of the same cute chick...drew a moustache on her or something. :-\
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Rosie O'Donnell was "asked" to leave early from the View
Bwahhhaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhaaaaaaa
True to form Mr. Hate gets it wrong again. I click on his link expecting to read how O'Donnell got fired like Mr. Hate said she did in his post but that's not what happened, she asked to be let out of her contract. Here's a quote from Mr. Hate's link.
"We had hoped that Rosie would be with us until the end of her contract three weeks from now, but Rosie has informed us that she would like an early leave. Therefore, we part ways, thank her for her tremendous contribution to 'The View' and wish her well," Brian Frons, the president of Disney-ABC's Daytime Television Group, said in a statement."
Nice job Mr. Hate. ::)
Oh, and here's an interesting quote by Trump from the link.
“On this one I think Rosie should win, but Rosie is not much herself. I think anybody that’s against the war in Iraq is the winner of the fight, because to justify the war in Iraq — only an imbecile could do that," he told "Extra."
About Hasselbeck’s political views, especially on the war in Iraq, he added, “Elisabeth is not a very smart person, she’s one of the dumber people in television. To see that she supports the war, and she’s solidly behind the war, give me a break.”
According to Trump all you war mongering neotaints are imbeciles.
Did you hear that Mr. Hate, even Trump thinks you're an idiot and he's never even seen one of your moronic Limbaugh copy and paste jobs.
Bwaaahhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaa aaaaaaaa
Thanks for the laugh.
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Dude's in the military. How intellectual is that?
LOL... one of the most ignorant posts I've seen from you on getbig.
And that's really saying something.
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Dude's in the military. How intellectual is that?
Thank you John "I gave myself a purpil heart" Kerry!!
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Volunteer army during unnecessary invasion and war- these guys are no heroes.
And you're a doctor, like Enigma (who also claims to be a doctor)? For a Doctor you are not too bright!
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Military people are the prime examples of high intellectual capacity in the human race
(http://angelsviewweddingchapel.com.concentric.com/military2.jpg)
No wait, let be guess.........you're a Liberal, right?
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No wait, let be guess.........you're a Liberal, right?
you love to use that title to label anyone who disagrees with you.
The man believes that people in the military aren't that smart. If you look at it from a socioeconomic standpoint of who enters - you're going to see a lot more poor, uneducated kids enter... than you are going to see ivy leage graduate rich kids.
So yes, the top minds ARE NOT in the military. This is a fact. If using facts makes you a liberal, well, okay.
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And you're a doctor, like Enigma (who also claims to be a doctor)?
Like a give a shit what a PERSONAL TRAINER thinks of me. ::)
BTW.....anytime you want to wager on my medical license Mr PT, I'd love to take what LITTLE money you may have.
Otherwise.............ST FU.
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I'm beginning to understand Mr "personal trainer's" frustration.
He's 45yo, little money, a shit job, and very angry at the world.
Listen Mr PT/I-one/Coach......go back to college for another 10 yrs, and I might consider hiring you to do urine analysis' in my office.
Once you master the U.A. job, I'd consider letting you answer my front desk phone.
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you love to use that title to label anyone who disagrees with you.
The man believes that people in the military aren't that smart. If you look at it from a socioeconomic standpoint of who enters - you're going to see a lot more poor, uneducated kids enter... than you are going to see ivy leage graduate rich kids.
So yes, the top minds ARE NOT in the military. This is a fact. If using facts makes you a liberal, well, okay.
Wrong. About 99 percent of officers in the military are college graduates and a significant number of them have graduate degrees.
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Wrong. About 99 percent of officers in the military are college graduates and a significant number of them have graduate degrees.
What's the average IQ in the military? How many % of the people in the military are officers?
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Wrong. About 99 percent of officers in the military are college graduates and a significant number of them have graduate degrees.
Why do you only talk about the officers? ;)
Tell us about the PFCs.
I tell you what... i said the top minds are NOT in the military. Are you prepared to tell us all the nations top minds ARE in the military? yes or no?
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I'm beginning to understand Mr "personal trainer's" frustration.
He's 45yo, little money, a shit job, and very angry at the world.
Listen Mr PT/I-one/Coach......go back to college for another 10 yrs, and I might consider hiring you to do urine analysis' in my office.
Once you master the U.A. job, I'd consider letting you answer my front desk phone.
Let fish tell you something about the world: Dumb people just don't get it.
Dumb people need God, and we all know who that is 8)
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What's the average IQ in the military? How many % of the people in the military are officers?
I have no idea about "average IQ in the military," nor do I care. Enlisted make up the majority of the military. Also, a large number of senior enlisted have at least some college education.
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Why do you only talk about the officers? ;)
Tell us about the PFCs.
I tell you what... i said the top minds are NOT in the military. Are you prepared to tell us all the nations top minds ARE in the military? yes or no?
You made a blanket statement about our service members: "So yes, the top minds ARE NOT in the military. This is a fact."
You don't know what the heck you're talking about. I'm not about to bash our men and women in uniform. There are enough people like you who do it darn near every day.
I know and have known plenty of very smart soldiers who were a private first class. But I'll talk about my friend who is in Iraq right now. He's a captain, college graduate, and thinking about medical school. He's one of our "top minds." I'll talk about my friend who is a retired sergeant major who is not a college graduate. He is one of our "top minds" (and was when he was on active duty not to long ago). I know a plethora of service members like them.
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you dont know stats, you admit.
yet you speak authoratively.
makin it up as you go mate? ;)
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you dont know stats, you admit.
yet you speak authoratively.
makin it up as you go mate? ;)
240 on our men and women in uniform: "So yes, the top minds ARE NOT in the military. This is a fact."
You should move to Canada.
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240 on our men and women in uniform: "So yes, the top minds ARE NOT in the military. This is a fact."
You should move to Canada.
I haven't seen the rest of that particular post, but that quote seems reasonable.
Why?
Because the opportunities for a creative job and wealth (usually the two biggest motives when picking a career IMHO) are better in other areas.
That's not to say that a lot of the military tacticians aren't skilled, or even geniuses.
-Hedge
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I'm beginning to understand Mr "personal trainer's" frustration.
He's 45yo, little money, a shit job, and very angry at the world.
Listen Mr PT/I-one/Coach......go back to college for another 10 yrs, and I might consider hiring you to do urine analysis' in my office.
Once you master the U.A. job, I'd consider letting you answer my front desk phone.
LOL.....yeah, I do fine on the measly $32K......................................per month!
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LOL.....yeah, I do fine on the measly $32K......................................per month!
How are you able to earn that kind of money as a PT?
No offence meant, just interested in how you manages to do it.
-Hedge
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I haven't seen the rest of that particular post, but that quote seems reasonable.
Why?
Because the opportunities for a creative job and wealth (usually the two biggest motives when picking a career IMHO) are better in other areas.
That's not to say that a lot of the military tacticians aren't skilled, or even geniuses.
-Hedge
Hedge it's not reasonable. As I said, about 99 percent of officers are college graduates and a significant number of them have graduate degrees.
Do you know much about our service academies? (Serious question.) West Point, the Air Force Academy, the Naval Academy, and the Coast Guard Academy are as competitive as Ivy League schools when it comes to admissions. The men and women attending those schools are among the "top minds" in the country.
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How are you able to earn that kind of money as a PT?
No offence meant, just interested in how you manages to do it.
-Hedge
The PT and rehab side of the business is around $15K, fitness boot camps around $8-10K, strongman camps are about another $6k and growing, it slows in the summer months but I have combine training for my athletes during that time.
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Bwahhhaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhaaaaaaa
True to form Mr. Hate gets it wrong again. I click on his link expecting to read how O'Donnell got fired like Mr. Hate said she did in his post but that's not what happened, she asked to be let out of her contract. Here's a quote from Mr. Hate's link.
"We had hoped that Rosie would be with us until the end of her contract three weeks from now, but Rosie has informed us that she would like an early leave. Therefore, we part ways, thank her for her tremendous contribution to 'The View' and wish her well," Brian Frons, the president of Disney-ABC's Daytime Television Group, said in a statement."
Nice job Mr. Hate. ::)
Bwaaahhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaa aaaaaaaa
Thanks for the laugh.
And you actually believe it....LOL!!
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you love to use that title to label anyone who disagrees with you.
The man believes that people in the military aren't that smart. If you look at it from a socioeconomic standpoint of who enters - you're going to see a lot more poor, uneducated kids enter... than you are going to see ivy leage graduate rich kids.
So yes, the top minds ARE NOT in the military. This is a fact. If using facts makes you a liberal, well, okay.
No, not at all, but you don't think putting a picture up like that, isn't "labeling"?? When was the last time you heard a Republican blast our military in that way........sorry Rob, no matter how diplomatic you want to try and make it sound........it's still labeling, as a matter of fact, almost every thread on here wether it's started by a Liberal/Dem or Repub/Conservative is still labeling.
If I start a thread about something negative about a Dem or Liberal or a liberal on here starts a negative thread about a Conservative/Repub..........it's labeling!
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I have nothing against our military men and women - i sincerely appreciate the job they do and the risks they take for our American way of life - freedom, safety, and standard of living. When I see one, I thank him/her for their service. I would give one a deal on a website. Etc etc.
however, stats are stats. Military is public sector and more people of disadvantage join, then of advantage. beach Bum, you can turn this into an emotional whinefest about "your cousin's friend's uncle is a brilliant man, and HE's in the military!", but the numbers won't change.
I'm not labeling anyone as anything. I'm pointing at the total macro group as compared to medicine, law, CS, engineering, or the other top sectors requiring mental capacity. The most brilliant people go into these fields. period. Like it, cry about it and turn it into a repub/dem issue if you want. But it's the truth - more brilliant people go to high level private sector.
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I have nothing against our military men and women - i sincerely appreciate the job they do and the risks they take for our American way of life - freedom, safety, and standard of living. When I see one, I thank him/her for their service. I would give one a deal on a website. Etc etc.
however, stats are stats. Military is public sector and more people of disadvantage join, then of advantage. beach Bum, you can turn this into an emotional whinefest about "your cousin's friend's uncle is a brilliant man, and HE's in the military!", but the numbers won't change.
I'm not labeling anyone as anything. I'm pointing at the total macro group as compared to medicine, law, CS, engineering, or the other top sectors requiring mental capacity. The most brilliant people go into these fields. period. Like it, cry about it and turn it into a repub/dem issue if you want. But it's the truth - more brilliant people go to high level private sector.
Quit lying. You don't respect the military. You bash them on here practically every day. You are a military-hating liberal. Here is what you think about our men and women in uniform:
240 is Back]
So yes, the top minds ARE NOT in the military. This is a fact. If using facts makes you a liberal, well, okay.
Why is this a stupid comment? Because, among other things, it fails to take into account all of the men and women at our service academies who could have gone to Harvard or Yale, but chose West Point and Naval Academy instead. You know, those schools you weren't qualified to get into.
And there are doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. in the military, so they don't all go into the private sector.
Spare me your anti-military crap.
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This thread went down the shitter..... :-\
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Quit lying. You don't respect the military. You bash them on here practically every day. You are a military-hating liberal. Here is what you think about our men and women in uniform:
Why is this a stupid comment? Because, among other things, it fails to take into account all of the men and women at our service academies who could have gone to Harvard or Yale, but chose West Point and Naval Academy instead. You know, those schools you weren't qualified to get into.
And there are doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. in the military, so they don't all go into the private sector.
Spare me your anti-military crap.
West Point is (or at least was) the 2nd hardest school to get into here.
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West Point is (or at least was) the 2nd hardest school to get into here.
It's one of the hardest schools to get into in the country, along with the other service academies. Most of those kids could go to any other school in the country.
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Are the brightest minds in our country, at a higher percentage:
1) In advanced fields like CS, medicine, law, engineering, etc, or
2) In the military?
If you pulled 100 random folks from the army, and 100 random folks from an engineering school, tell me, which group would have the highest average IQ?
Beachbum, you know the answer to this one ;)
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Are the brightest minds in our country, at a higher percentage:
1) In advanced fields like CS, medicine, law, engineering, etc, or
2) In the military?
If you pulled 100 random folks from the army, and 100 random folks from an engineering school, tell me, which group would have the highest average IQ?
Beachbum, you know the answer to this one ;)
Geeze Louise. How many dumb comments can you make in one thread 240? Compare apples with apples: pull 100 random folks from West Point and 100 random folks from "an engineering school." Good grief . . .
240 is Back
So yes, the top minds ARE NOT in the military. This is a fact. If using facts makes you a liberal, well, okay.
::)
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Geeze Louise. How many dumb comments can you make in one thread 240? Compare apples with apples: pull 100 random folks from West Point and 100 random folks from "an engineering school." Good grief . . .
We're talking about the intelligence level of Americans.
This *IS* apples with apples. I believe the brightest Americans go to medical or engineering school. You believe the brightest Americans go into the military. Statistically, one of these groups will have an average higher IQ. You think it'll be the military, I think it will be one of the other groups.
You've backed yourself into a position here which is becoming (painfully obviously) transparently wrong. You KNOW the average med school student will be smarter than the average military man, statistically. Yet your emotion won't let you look at facts.
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We're talking about the intelligence level of Americans.
This *IS* apples with apples. I believe the brightest Americans go to medical or engineering school. You believe the brightest Americans go into the military. Statistically, one of these groups will have an average higher IQ. You think it'll be the military, I think it will be one of the other groups.
You've backed yourself into a position here which is becoming (painfully obviously) transparently wrong. You KNOW the average med school student will be smarter than the average military man, statistically. Yet your emotion won't let you look at facts.
[sigh] Stop making stuff up. Go back and read the thread son. You made a comment about ALL members of our military. "So yes, the top minds ARE NOT in the military. This is a fact." Stupid comment. Factually inaccurate comment.
Our brightest minds go to the best schools in the country, which include the service academies. Do some homework and you can determine how difficult the admissions standards are. This alone disputes your comment.
Doctors, lawyers, nurses, pilots, astronauts, and engineers are all part of the military. This alone makes your comment absurd.
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[sigh] Stop making stuff up. Go back and read the thread son. You made a comment about ALL members of our military. "So yes, the top minds ARE NOT in the military. This is a fact." Stupid comment. Factually inaccurate comment.
Our brightest minds go to the best schools in the country, which include the service academies. Do some homework and you can determine how difficult the admissions standards are. This alone disputes your comment.
Doctors, lawyers, nurses, pilots, astronauts, and engineers are all part of the military. This alone makes your comment absurd.
Look, daughter,
Our top minds are distributed across many areas of study, in both private and public practice.
MORE - a higher % - of them find work in places other than military. Sorry, it's just how it is. Yes, the military has talented people. but private sector has more of them on average.
I know it upsets you, and you probably have ten stories about smart guys you know, and that's super dooper. But in the end, brilliant people usually get rich working in pvt sector. not working for standard military pay. But hey, you work for a university and you're a military man, you wouldn't know much about the pvt sector.
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Look, daughter,
Our top minds are distributed across many areas of study, in both private and public practice.
MORE - a higher % - of them find work in places other than military. Sorry, it's just how it is. Yes, the military has talented people. but private sector has more of them on average.
I know it upsets you, and you probably have ten stories about smart guys you know, and that's super dooper. But in the end, brilliant people usually get rich working in pvt sector. not working for standard military pay. But hey, you work for a university and you're a military man, you wouldn't know much about the pvt sector.
Listen kid, you are frighteningly uninformed. You made a factually inaccurate comment. I just tried to show you how absurd the comment was. I failed. You just aren't smart enough. Get out of the house more son. Broaden your horizons. Get away from the CT stuff. The world has lots of wonderful and interesting people. It's not too late for you.
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Listen kid, you are frighteningly uninformed. You made a factually inaccurate comment. I just tried to show you how absurd the comment was. I failed. You just aren't smart enough. Get out of the house more son. Broaden your horizons. Get away from the CT stuff. The world has lots of wonderful and interesting people. It's not too late for you.
listen, admitted dropout,
You just went from discussing the issue to insulting me.
You just went from discussing the message to attacking the messenger.
You always do this when you lose the argument. you call me a CTer and attempt to get me to leave the thread.
You always do this when you lose, and you just did it.
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listen, admitted dropout,
You just went from discussing the issue to insulting me.
You just went from discussing the message to attacking the messenger.
You always do this when you lose the argument. you call me a CTer and attempt to get me to leave the thread.
You always do this when you lose, and you just did it.
YAWN. Listen, Mrs. Doubtfire, you made a ridiculous comment. I corrected it. You failed to acknowledge how stupid your comment was and instead tried to change the subject, use absurd hypotheticals, etc.
And you are the absolute worst ad hominem offender on this board. I do it on occasion, almost exclusively with you, but talk about the pot . . . .
This isn't about winning or losing. It's about an exchange of ideas. There are some very smart liberals on this board who are quite capable of discussion, debate, etc. without insult (Decker, for example). Then there are the liberals, like you, who are completely incapable of having a discussion without eventually resorting to ad hominem.
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YAWN. Listen, Mrs. Doubtfire, you made a ridiculous comment. I corrected it. You failed to acknowledge how stupid your comment was and instead tried to change the subject, use absurd hypotheticals, etc.
And you are the absolute worst ad hominem offender on this board. I do it on occasion, almost exclusively with you, but talk about the pot . . . .
This isn't about winning or losing. It's about an exchange of ideas. There are some very smart liberals on this board who are quite capable of discussion, debate, etc. without insult (Decker, for example). Then there are the liberals, like you, who are completely incapable of having a discussion without eventually resorting to ad hominem.
yawn. you voted for clinton and I voted for Bush 1.
yawn. i support the war because of oil. you support it because bush says so.
who's the liberal?
you are, daughter.
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yawn. you voted for clinton and I voted for Bush 1.
yawn. i support the war because of oil. you support it because bush says so.
who's the liberal?
you are, daughter.
Quote December 16, 2006, 10:59:08 PM » Quote by 240:
I'm a libertarian.
Hahahahaha!! He's confused.
::) You're starting to bore me. Have to watch a movie with the kiddies.
I tell you what, give me your mailing address and I promise to send you a monogrammed apron for Christmas.
Buenos noches.
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I tell you what, give me your mailing address and I promise to send you a monogrammed apron for Christmas.
you disrespect the things parents do to ensure their children are provided for.
I can happily debate politics with you. We're both passionate and we both cite sources.
But when you disrespect the family unit like that, I don't want to be around you.
You're a disgusting person when you disrespect the role of parents.
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LOL.....yeah, I do fine on the measly $32K......................................per month!
I pay more in Federal Income Tax.
Hardly impressive. ::)
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I pay more in Federal Income Tax.
Hardly impressive. ::)
Good for you. I wasn't trying to impress, just stating my income for someone who is 44, that has a "shit job" with no money. My mommy and daddy couln't afford to send me to school even If I wanted to.
BTW, it's people like you (Dr's) that I get alot of my business from, thanks!
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My mommy and daddy couln't afford to send me to school even If I wanted to.
What field would you have majored in if you had gone to College?
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What field would you have majored in if you had gone to College?
I did go to college, I came up short of a degree because I got married early, I had about 2 1/2 years of anatomy/phyisology and later biomechanics/exercise physiology. I make up for what I missed in school by attending seminars around the country that pertain to my field including phyiscal therapy siminars. For what I missed in school I more than made up on the outside having my own business.
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I did go to college, I came up short of a degree because I got married early, I had about 2 1/2 years of anatomy/phyisology and later biomechanics/exercise physiology. I make up for what I missed in school by attending seminars around the country that pertain to my field including phyiscal therapy siminars. For what I missed in school I more than made up on the outside having my own business.
Good stuff Joe, 32k/month is pretty good, and you're obviously thinking "outside the box". Keep it up ;)
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you love to use that title to label anyone who disagrees with you.
The man believes that people in the military aren't that smart. If you look at it from a socioeconomic standpoint of who enters - you're going to see a lot more poor, uneducated kids enter... than you are going to see ivy leage graduate rich kids.
So yes, the top minds ARE NOT in the military. This is a fact. If using facts makes you a liberal, well, okay.
So are you saying that there aren't people that could have gone to Ivy League schools in the military?
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So are you saying that there aren't people that could have gone to Ivy League schools in the military?
I never said that. Of course there are.
I am speaking on a higher %.
If you evaluated the average IQ of all groups, and compared military to pvt sector, the pvt sector will be higher. This isn't hatred or meanness or liberalism talking - it's simple facts. Military takes many people whom high level pvt sector groups would not.
So settle down. I appreciate the military's job as much as the next guy. But it would be silly to say the average IQ of the military is higher than the average IQ of a medical school graduating class, wouldn't it?
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you disrespect the things parents do to ensure their children are provided for.
I can happily debate politics with you. We're both passionate and we both cite sources.
But when you disrespect the family unit like that, I don't want to be around you.
You're a disgusting person when you disrespect the role of parents.
Ah shaddap. ::) You attack people on a very personal level and when they punch back you cry like a freakin little girl. If you can't handle ultimate fighting then keep the gloves on and stay out of the ring. Man up already. Stick to the issues and stop attacking people.
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Good stuff Joe, 32k/month is pretty good, and you're obviously thinking "outside the box". Keep it up ;)
I agree. Kudos to you Coach. If you're making $32K a month, or $384,000 year, you're earning more than 90 percent of most Americans (probably closer to 99 percent). Awesome accomplishment, particularly without a college degree.
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Ah shaddap. ::) You attack people on a very personal level and when they punch back you cry like a freakin little girl. If you can't handle ultimate fighting then keep the gloves on and stay out of the ring. Man up already. Stick to the issues and stop attacking people.
daughter,
The way you disrespect the role of parents is disgusting.
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It's one of the hardest schools to get into in the country, along with the other service academies. Most of those kids could go to any other school in the country.
Maybe, but when they needed some work done AT WEST POINT... They brought me in... They didn't do it there.
I flew up to NY, drove around the Hudson River Valley, crossed a bridge... drove up to the front gate, gave them my name, and drove on in and did work that THEY could not accomplish at the time.
Now... I'm not going to talk about officers or enlisted men... I'm going to talk about people.
There are many intelligent people in the Military, who join because of a sense of duty or devotion, there are also many people who join due to depravity and are simply trying to better themselves.
Just because they are "deprived" though, doesn't make them less intelligent than anyone else... perhaps they didn't get a foundation for advancement from their home life growing up, perhaps they truly were in an social environment that didn't reward success...
It doesn't make them less intelligent.
Do I believe that "military intelligence" is an oxymoron... sometimes... Sure. Look at the hell that is Iraq.
Do I think that there is ANY statistical information that says that people in the military are "less" intelligent than anywhere else. No.
Many people join the military to get a GI Bill, so they can get out and afford their education... That makes them smart enough to stay out of debt.
Are there idiots anywhere... of course. There are idiots in the Military (I think our wonderful Commander in Chief is a prime example of idiocy in the Military), HOWEVER, you can't say that there are more or less intelligent people in the real world.
I see idiots walking around every day... and there's more than one on these boards.
So, for anyone to make a blanket statement like that... FOR or AGAINST... is silly.
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daughter,
The way you disrespect the role of parents is disgusting.
It's actually much simpler than that Mrs. Doubtfire. I simply don't respect you.
Now quit screwing around on the internet and go cook dinner.
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Maybe, but when they needed some work done AT WEST POINT... They brought me in... They didn't do it there.
I flew up to NY, drove around the Hudson River Valley, crossed a bridge... drove up to the front gate, gave them my name, and drove on in and did work that THEY could not accomplish at the time.
Now... I'm not going to talk about officers or enlisted men... I'm going to talk about people.
There are many intelligent people in the Military, who join because of a sense of duty or devotion, there are also many people who join due to depravity and are simply trying to better themselves.
Just because they are "deprived" though, doesn't make them less intelligent than anyone else... perhaps they didn't get a foundation for advancement from their home life growing up, perhaps they truly were in an social environment that didn't reward success...
It doesn't make them less intelligent.
Do I believe that "military intelligence" is an oxymoron... sometimes... Sure. Look at the hell that is Iraq.
Do I think that there is ANY statistical information that says that people in the military are "less" intelligent than anywhere else. No.
Many people join the military to get a GI Bill, so they can get out and afford their education... That makes them smart enough to stay out of debt.
Are there idiots anywhere... of course. There are idiots in the Military (I think our wonderful Commander in Chief is a prime example of idiocy in the Military), HOWEVER, you can't say that there are more or less intelligent people in the real world.
I see idiots walking around every day... and there's more than one on these boards.
So, for anyone to make a blanket statement like that... FOR or AGAINST... is silly.
I agree. Well said Tu.
Note to 240: Take notes. Here is another smart liberal who can express himself without ad hominem.
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It's actually much simpler than that Mrs. Doubtfire. I simply don't respect you.
Now quit screwing around on the internet and go cook dinner.
The labels you use denigrate all parents.
Daughter.
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Goddam I go away for a few days and u guys come up with a great thread...hey assmonkey..LSD or whatever the fuck..I have 1 MA and working on number two. I was a double major in college. You have guys like enigma who is an MD. I had a guy in my platoon when I was in an Armor unit who joined so he could finish his phD. I am working with guys all day long who have MA's and working on doctorates. The leaders of all our major corporations are bending of backwards to hire guys with military experience. Go into many Home Depots and the manage was an ex military officer. GE is full of guys. We run this country..not because we pull triggers but because of our leadership abilities. A quality that is sorely lacking in the civilian sector. Once again u prove ur an idiot.
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Goddam I go away for a few days and u guys come up with a great thread...hey assmonkey..LSD or whatever the fuck..I have 1 MA and working on number two. I was a double major in college. You have guys like enigma who is an MD. I had a guy in my platoon when I was in an Armor unit who joined so he could finish his phD. I am working with guys all day long who have MA's and working on doctorates. The leaders of all our major corporations are bending of backwards to hire guys with military experience. Go into many Home Depots and the manage was an ex military officer. GE is full of guys. We run this country..not because we pull triggers but because of our leadership abilities. A quality that is sorely lacking in the civilian sector. Once again u prove ur an idiot.
But it seems Enigma thinks if you're not an MD you have a "shit job" and have "no money" :-\!
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But it seems Enigma thinks if you're not an MD you have a "shit job" and have "no money" :-\!
I don't know Enigma, but if that's what he truly thinks... he's just wrong.
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I don't know Enigma, but if that's what he truly thinks... he's just wrong.
If he is any bit educated I'm sure he doesn't think that.
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If he is any bit educated I'm sure he doesn't think that.
Yes, I'm sure the statement is due to the disagreement between a few parties involved.
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Yes, I'm sure the statement is due to the disagreement between a few parties involved.
Yeah, and honestly i don't think most doctors are doctors for the money. Initially anyway.
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. he's just wrong.
He usually is!
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Yeah, and honestly i don't think most doctors are doctors for the money. Initially anyway.
That's true... I dated a Pediatrician once... It wasn't about the money to her... she just wanted to help kids.
I bet now she's some Beverly Hills plastic surgeon though.
:D
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Yeah, and honestly i don't think most doctors are doctors for the money. Initially anyway.
I don't think he is either, but he sure likes to brag about some of his possessions and paying more than I make in a month in taxes.
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I don't think he is either, but he sure likes to brag about some of his possessions and paying more than I make in a month in taxes.
Bragging about one's possession's on the internet is stupid if that's what he did.
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Bragging about one's possession's on the internet is stupid if that's what he did.
Does making a bet for $500K count?
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Bragging about one's possession's on the internet is stupid if that's what he did.
I pay more in Federal Income Tax.
Hardly impressive. ::)
Yes, he did.
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The labels you use denigrate all parents.
Daughter.
::) No, they denigrate you.
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Yes, he did.
Oh brother. Obviously trying to make Coach feel bad about making nearly $400K a year. That's just comical.
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Goddam I go away for a few days and u guys come up with a great thread...hey assmonkey..LSD or whatever the fuck..I have 1 MA and working on number two. I was a double major in college. You have guys like enigma who is an MD. I had a guy in my platoon when I was in an Armor unit who joined so he could finish his phD. I am working with guys all day long who have MA's and working on doctorates. The leaders of all our major corporations are bending of backwards to hire guys with military experience. Go into many Home Depots and the manage was an ex military officer. GE is full of guys. We run this country..not because we pull triggers but because of our leadership abilities. A quality that is sorely lacking in the civilian sector. Once again u prove ur an idiot.
Don't try and confuse people with the facts Headhunter. You're just one of those poor saps with an undergrad degree who will soon have two graduate degrees. What could you and the rest of your fellow officers possibly know, given that you are more educated than the majority of the American population?
What percentage of officers major and up would you say have advanced degrees?
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LOL.....yeah, I do fine on the measly $32K......................................per month!
Mr Hate apparently has an inferiority complex being a college dropout. As you see, he's the one trying to impress us with his "monthly earnings"
I never posted how much I earn.........nor will I.
Mr Hate tries desperately to be "a somebody"..........he's not.
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Bragging about one's possession's on the internet is stupid if that's what he did.
Sorry, but it was Mr Hate that was BRAGGING about his supposed "earning".
His typical MO is to turn the conversation away from himself.
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he sure likes to brag about some of his possessions and paying more than I make in a month in taxes.
Interesting..........loo k at the posts and determine who is bragging about the amount of money the "apparently" make.
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I wasn't trying to impress, just stating my income. My mommy and daddy couln't afford to send me to school even If I wanted to.
In the above post by Mr Hate, you'll see that he was boasting about his supposed income.............not me.
You will also notice the anger he displays by blaming his parents for not providing him with a FREE education.
MostMed school grads (including myself) finished college with debt in the amount of $200,000.00 in both G.S.L. and H.E.A.L. loans. So Mr Hate needs to stop crying in his own milk and stop blaming his parents for his shortcomings.
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Does making a bet for $500K count?
no it doesn't. If he was serious it shows he has balls and it shows you were wrong or at least you were bluffed into backing down....hth ;)
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Don't try and confuse people with the facts Headhunter. You're just one of those poor saps with an undergrad degree who will soon have two graduate degrees. What could you and the rest of your fellow officers possibly know, given that you are more educated than the majority of the American population?
What percentage of officers major and up would you say have advanced degrees?
Well were I'm currently at..if u take a few more courses besides the military directed ones....u get an MA in military studies. U can also get a Masters from KSU if your enrolled in SAMS..these are the smart guys that plan military operations. They are taught how to think by a bunch of super smart folks. I think the degree is in Stategic Security studies. It will allow u to make a ton of cash for some Washington think tank i guess. We are recognized as the most advanced and best educated military in the world. 40% of our enlisted folks have some college. Our advanced schooling for officers is the best in the world. Foreign militaries send their best and brightest to these schools. Most if not all become General officers and some become heads of their militaries or even their countries as is the case for Jordan and Indonesia. The average grunt ends up buying into the GI bill and it benefits the country. We would not be as advanced a country without the GI Bill and all the guys from WW2-Vietnam buying into the program.....GE..Fed EX...Home Depot the list is endless. And after Iraq we will run this country as we have before.
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Well were I'm currently at..if u take a few more courses besides the military directed ones....u get an MA in military studies. U can also get a Masters from KSU if your enrolled in SAMS..these are the smart guys that plan military operations. They are taught how to think by a bunch of super smart folks. I think the degree is in Stategic Security studies. It will allow u to make a ton of cash for some Washington think tank i guess. We are recognized as the most advanced and best educated military in the world. 40% of our enlisted folks have some college. Our advanced schooling for officers is the best in the world. Foreign militaries send their best and brightest to these schools. Most if not all become General officers and some become heads of their militaries or even their countries as is the case for Jordan and Indonesia. The average grunt ends up buying into the GI bill and it benefits the country. We would not be as advanced a country without the GI Bill and all the guys from WW2-Vietnam buying into the program.....GE..Fed EX...Home Depot the list is endless. And after Iraq we will run this country as we have before.
Thanks Headhunter. You mean think tanks hire our military members? Who knew? :) Also, I bet instructors and graduates of the War College are among the brightest in the country.
Congrats to you.
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I did go to college, I came up short of a degree because I got married early.
In this post you'll notice Mr Hate blames his lack of a degree on his wife.
Mr Hate: "First I'll blame my parents for my LACK of a degree, if that doesn't "stick to the wall" I'll just blame my wife."
Beyond pathetic.
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Well were I'm currently at..if u take a few more courses besides the military directed ones....u get an MA in military studies. U can also get a Masters from KSU if your enrolled in SAMS..these are the smart guys that plan military operations. They are taught how to think by a bunch of super smart folks. I think the degree is in Stategic Security studies.
Just what the world needs, more people to focus their attention on how to kill better.
P.S. I like how your master's degree helped you create the sentence, "They are taught how to think by a bunch of super smart folks." Golly Jethro, them's some super smart folks!
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My mommy and daddy couln't afford to send me to school even If I wanted to.
Mr Hate........who will blame for your shortcomings tommorrow?
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no it doesn't. If he was serious it shows he has balls and it shows you were wrong or at least you were bluffed into backing down....hth ;)
Really? How about saying how it costs him $95 to fill up his Mercedes S55?
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Interesting..........look at the posts and determine who is bragging about the amount of money the "apparently" make.
Hey Junour, your the one who said I had a shit job and no money and that I was just a PT, I just thought I'd set the record straight!!
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In this post you'll notice Mr Hate blames his lack of a degree on his wife.
Mr Hate: "First I'll blame my parents for my LACK of a degree, if that doesn't "stick to the wall" I'll just blame my wife."
Beyond pathetic.
No I don't, I thank God for my parents teaching me to have the drive, as far as having a degree? Yeah, I wish I would have had it, but in retrospect most people who have their degrees get out of college making less than $35,000, I've done better than most without a degree that with one and from what I've experianced, the people that graduate with a degree in their major usually don't work in the field they majored in!
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No I don't, I thank God for my parents teaching me to have the drive, as far as having a degree? Yeah, I wish I would have had it, but in retrospect most people who have their degrees get out of college making less than $35,000, I've done better than most without a degree that with one and from what I've experianced, the people that graduate with a degree in their major usually don't work in the field they majored in!
You're missing a key aspect of a good liberal arts education- an improved ability to think critically. Ya see Joe, if you would have developed this, you would have become less of a dupe in regards to listening to Faux News and Rush Limbaugh.
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No I don't, I thank God for my parents teaching me to have the drive, as far as having a degree? Yeah, I wish I would have had it, but in retrospect most people who have their degrees get out of college making less than $35,000, I've done better than most without a degree that with one and from what I've experianced, the people that graduate with a degree in their major usually don't work in the field they majored in!
You're a good man.
But there's more to an education than a paycheck. Is the most important thing about one's professional life aquisitive success or making as much money as possible?
There's more in heaven and earth than that.
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Ya see Joe, if you would have developed this, you would have become less of a dupe in regards to listening to Faux News and Rush Limbaugh.
Rush Limbaugh uses the uneducated like Mr Hate........to help "carry the water"
Conversing with college dropouts is a waste of time.
Deep down.....they rightfully feel inferior.
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You're a good man.
But there's more to an education than a paycheck. Is the most important thing about one's professional life aquisitive success or making as much money as possible?
There's more in heaven and earth than that.
Don't get me wrong, I totally agree with what you are saying, again I wish I would have finished and got my degree, when I said that we couldn't afford for my to go to college I meant they couldn't afford to send me to med school even if I wanted.
My business grew by me wanting to help people first and the rest just thankfully came with the territory, I learned thinks through business that I would have never learned in college and obviously vesa versa. I have learned more through seminars, lectures and just reading in my years in business than I would ever had in school.
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Rush Limbaugh uses the uneducated like Mr Hate........to help "carry the water"
Conversing with college dropouts is a waste of time.
Deep down.....they rightfully feel inferior.
Dude, after reading your hate posts and the way you carry yourself, you're the inferior......like I said, get alot of my business from people like you!
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when I said that we couldn't afford for my to go to college I meant they couldn't afford to send me to med school even if I wanted.
Ever hear of G.S.L. and H.E.A.L. loans...............Mr Dropout?
Pathetic excuse....... after pathetic excuse.
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Ever hear of G.S.L. and H.E.A.L. loans...............Mr Dropout?
Pathetic excuse....... after pathetic excuse.
I live with myself just fine and do well in the process.
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Ever hear of G.S.L. and H.E.A.L. loans...............Mr Dropout?
Pathetic excuse....... after pathetic excuse.
Gets give Joe a break. Do you really think he had the basic intelligence to succeed in med school? Let alone complete an undergrad degree? His "I dropped out of college because I got married" excuse allows him to forget that he wasn't doing so well in school anyway.
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Gets give Joe a break. Do you really think he had the basic intelligence to succeed in med school? Let alone complete an undergrad degree? His "I dropped out of college because I got married" excuse allows him to forget that he wasn't doing so well in school anyway.
Everybody has their own reasons.
I realized in my second year of law school that I hated it for the most part.
I stuck it out b/c there were a few areas of law not dull or despicable.
But medicine requires a dedication above any other field.
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Gets give Joe a break. Do you really think he had the basic intelligence to succeed in med school? Let alone complete an undergrad degree? His "I dropped out of college because I got married" excuse allows him to forget that he wasn't doing so well in school anyway.
Hey, your right, I wouldn't have had the patience, the intelligence yes, the patience, no.
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Do you really think he had the basic intelligence to succeed in med school?
Is this a trick question LSD? Hahahahaha
Med school requires one to think on their own. Does this sound like Mr Hate?
No copy and posts allowed.
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He'd make a great "personal trainer" though. ;D
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Is this a trick question LSD? Hahahahaha
Med school requires one to think on their own. Does this sound like Mr Hate?
No copy and posts allowed.
Just curious, you said you're in sports med, when you get a professional athlete that doesn't have a degree and makes more in a year than you or I would in a lifetime, do you blast that athlete?
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He'd make a great "personal trainer" though. ;D
I sorry, how many pro athletes have you trained or rehabed.........or do you just send to people like me?
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The PT and rehab side of the business is around $15K, fitness boot camps around $8-10K, strongman camps are about another $6k and growing, it slows in the summer months but I have combine training for my athletes during that time.
Notice how the college dropout tries to brag. Sadly, he's looking for praise from fellow getbiggers. How sad is that?
The question is: Does Mr Hates W-2 reflect his phantom numbers?
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Just curious, you said you're in sports med, when you get a professional athlete that doesn't have a degree and makes more in a year than you or I would in a lifetime, do you blast that athlete?
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I sorry, how many pro athletes have you trained or rehabed.........or do you just send to people like me?
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Joe, weren't you heavily into BB training when you got married?
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The one positive aspect of having subacromial decompression/acromioplasty surgery is........I get to make Mr. Hate my bitch.
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The one positive aspect of having subacromial decompression/acromioplasty surgery is........I get to make Mr. Hate my bitch.
Slapping around uneducated dropouts like Mr. Hate is quite enjoyable. :-*
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The one positive aspect of having subacromial decompression/acromioplasty surgery is........I get to make Mr. Hate my bitch.
Big words from a little man..........there's nothing wrong with my shoulder, no impingement or spurs so I don't know what the hell that had to do with anything.........nice try though!
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Big words from a little man..........there's nothing wrong with my shoulder, no impingement or spurs so I don't know what the hell that had to do with anything.........nice try though!
I was referring to my shoulder.
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Joe, two simple questions - and if you answer them, I will never rag on you again here:
1)
If you found out that the war in Iraq was started primarily for oil, would you still vote repub?
2)
If you found out that 911 was allowed to happen by our leaders, would you still vote repub?
Thanks.
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I was referring to my shoulder.
Why in the hell would that be a positive aspect as to me being you "bitch"??
BTW, I'm trying to convince my son's travel baseball league to change the rules about kids (8-12) throwing junk balls, over the last 3 years I rehabed one 16 y/o two 18 y/o and one 19y/o after having Tommy John surgery, I've givin case studies to the league about the dangers of little league arm.......any ideas?
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I was referring to my shoulder.
I unfortunately tore up my shoulder while overseas. I've been on the DL for a few months now.
Why else do you think I'm here?
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Why in the hell would that be a positive aspect as to me being you "bitch"??
BTW, I'm trying to convince my son's travel baseball league to change the rules about kids (8-12) throwing junk balls, over the last 3 years I rehabed one 16 y/o two 18 y/o and one 19y/o after having Tommy John surgery, I've givin case studies to the league about the dangers of little league arm.......any ideas?
I assume it's the pitchers who gets the injury.
The thing to do is obviously to regulate how many innings the the kids are allowed to pitch at certain ages.
This would prevent injuries.
Also have rules allowing only a certain number of games pitched per month?
Something like that.
That's on the macro level.
As a team coach, it's rather simple. Just rotate more, less innings pitched. Let more try the pitching position, try out different positions throughout the season.
Remember that winning games isn't important at all.
It is to make the kids better players, learn them to play baseball thorougly.
So individual games means jack and shit.
As does seasons.
Whether you're successful or not, we will find out in 7-10 years.
Can you feel me on this?
-Hedge
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Notice how the college dropout tries to brag. Sadly, he's looking for praise from fellow getbiggers. How sad is that?
The question is: Does Mr Hates W-2 reflect his phantom numbers?
Dude, what the hell? Are you obsessed with this guy?
Seriously, let it go already. You're really coming off as an elitist ass.
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Rush Limbaugh uses the uneducated like Mr Hate........to help "carry the water"
Conversing with college dropouts is a waste of time.
Deep down.....they rightfully feel inferior.
conversing with college dropouts=bad
but conversing with anonomous people on the internet=good?
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Joe, two simple questions - and if you answer them, I will never rag on you again here:
1)
If you found out that the war in Iraq was started primarily for oil, would you still vote repub?
2)
If you found out that 911 was allowed to happen by our leaders, would you still vote repub?
Thanks.
I would like to answer..
1) It was a Bi partisan vote to start the war no matter what the reason
2) it was bi partisan government that let it happen it any one did
So I guess no one could vote either way
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BTW, I'm trying to convince my son's travel baseball league to change the rules about kids (8-12) throwing junk balls, over the last 3 years I rehabed one 16 y/o two 18 y/o and one 19y/o after having Tommy John surgery, I've givin case studies to the league about the dangers of little league arm.......any ideas?
Yes, I recommend you find a qualified physician (sports or ortho) to write you a letter that can be presented to the league describing the inherent dangers/contraindications of throwings "junk" on the soft tissue structures of growing adolecent boys.
I would ask the ortho to reference any previous studies completed (there are many) on this subject.
This is a very serious problem that needs to be addressed by all Little Leagues.
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Dude, what the hell? Are you obsessed with this guy?
Seriously, let it go already. You're really coming off as an elitist ass.
Who asked for you input?
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Who asked for your input?
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Joe, two simple questions - and if you answer them, I will never rag on you again here:
1)
If you found out that the war in Iraq was started primarily for oil, would you still vote repub?
2)
If you found out that 911 was allowed to happen by our leaders, would you still vote repub?
Thanks.
Joe, why ignore this one?
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conversing with college dropouts=bad
but conversing with anonomous people on the internet=good?
Conversing with dyke trailer trash.............PRICEL ESS. :-*
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Conversing with dyke trailer trash.............PRICEL ESS. :-*
HAHAHAHAHA ;D
OUCH!
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I assume it's the pitchers who gets the injury.
The thing to do is obviously to regulate how many innings the the kids are allowed to pitch at certain ages.
This would prevent injuries.
Also have rules allowing only a certain number of games pitched per month?
Something like that.
That's on the macro level.
As a team coach, it's rather simple. Just rotate more, less innings pitched. Let more try the pitching position, try out different positions throughout the season.
Remember that winning games isn't important at all.
It is to make the kids better players, learn them to play baseball thorougly.
So individual games means jack and shit.
As does seasons.
Whether you're successful or not, we will find out in 7-10 years.
Can you feel me on this?
-Hedge
Zack, It's not for my team, it's for the entire league throughout the entire Pony/USSSA system, my pitchers already know that if I see any of them throwing junk they automatically get taken out of the game, I'm trying to make it an even playing field for all the kids without sacrificing their arms when they get older, travelball is like big league baseball exept for kids, same rules apply, we even have scouts that go to other leagues and games for recruitment, all my kids are allowed to throw are just fast balls and change ups, nothing really with a rotation.
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Joe, two simple questions - and if you answer them, I will never rag on you again here:
1)
If you found out that the war in Iraq was started primarily for oil, would you still vote repub?
2)
If you found out that 911 was allowed to happen by our leaders, would you still vote repub?
Thanks.
I wasn't ignoring it, I was involved in another battle.
Question 1 - Yes, because I know it wasn't exclusivly for the oil, if we were allowed offshore drilling off of our shores and Anwar we wouldn't have to protect our intrests, but that's a question for the enviro's now isn't it?
Question 2 - It's a rediculous question and yes, I would!
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Zack, It's not for my team, it's for the entire league throughout the entire Pony/USSSA system, my pitchers already know that if I see any of them throwing junk they automatically get taken out of the game, I'm trying to make it an even playing field for all the kids without sacrificing their arms when they get older, travelball is like big league baseball exept for kids, same rules apply, we even have scouts that go to other leagues and games for recruitment, all my kids are allowed to throw are just fast balls and change ups, nothing really with a rotation.
If I came across as a know-it-all about how you were to coach, I apologize.
At least I think I did. ;D
Seems like a rough situation, and you're always going to have some parents wanting their kids to win in the Little League to make up for what they (the parents) never were able to do as players themselves.
Those parents are least suited to be team managers and such.
I'm sure you will have lots of great anecdotes when the season is over from meeting these pastime heroes. ;D
Don't hesitate to tell us about it.... Coach! 8)
-Hedge
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Question 2 - It's a rediculous question and yes, I would!
Yes, it's rediculous, but half the world believes it, so it is something to debate.
To clarify, you would vote Republican, even though it was republicans who were in power, oversaw the investigation, etc? You would trust them?
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Joe, two simple questions - and if you answer them, I will never rag on you again here:
1)
If you found out that the war in Iraq was started primarily for oil, would you still vote repub?
Question 2 - It's a rediculous question and yes, I would!
Joe, you endorse murder here. By voting for those who you'd know did it, you are enabling it and are therefore morally culpable. I find it shocking that you don't believe liberals can go to heaven, but you would proudly vote for people you know killed innocents here. You endorse murder here. I said I wouldn't rag on you anymore, so I'll let it go now. Just thought you'd put what is right, and what God would want, over your hate for libs. I guess not.
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I find it shocking that you don't believe liberals can go to heaven,
I believe Mr Hate voted for Bill Clinton. That makes him a flaming liberal in my book.
Take plenty of sunscreen Mr Hate. ;D
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Yes, it's rediculous, but half the world believes it, so it is something to debate.
To clarify, you would vote Republican, even though it was republicans who were in power, oversaw the investigation, etc? You would trust them?
I would love to see your stats on half the world. I think it is hard to place sole blame on a president that wasn't in power for very long at the time. And if it was let happen, then there is no one in the political spectrum that is innocent. Did it happen on purpose who knows, but if it did they are all to blame. Who would you vote for 240? Do you really yhink the democrats didn't know anything about it?
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I believe Mr Hate voted for Bill Clinton. That makes him a flaming liberal in my book.
Take plenty of sunscreen Mr Hate. ;D
Nah, it just means back then I really didn't pay attention and like I said......he was a good salesmen.
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I would love to see your stats on half the world. I think it is hard to place sole blame on a president that wasn't in power for very long at the time. And if it was let happen, then there is no one in the political spectrum that is innocent. Did it happen on purpose who knows, but if it did they are all to blame. Who would you vote for 240? Do you really yhink the democrats didn't know anything about it?
hey man, I don't know who I'm voting for.
I understand the war is for oil, and 911 was needed for war, etc.
I just get pissed off when people who haven't looked at the 911 evidence will call it crazy. I mean, it's asinine. I don't know why I argue it here. Mr I will spend the rest of his life calling it crazy, as his co-workers, clients, friends, and fmaily all LOOK at the evidence and realize shit, they *did* let it happen and stifle the investigation.
Joe, you admit you "didn't pay attention" and voted for a scumbag like Clinton. I contend that you haven't "paid attention" to the 911 evidence, and challenge you to look at it.
To decline means you prefer to not "pay attention". You're no better than a liberal at that point - at least they do their fvckin research.
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Nah, it just means back then I really didn't pay attention and like I said......he was a good salesmen.
Yea, I mean you are not allowed to switch parties and get a better/different perspective. Remember that. ::) Don't worry Joe. Taking hits from two "Repubs" ::) who call out everything that the US government does is the better way to go. They must be right about everything.
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hey man, I don't know who I'm voting for.
I understand the war is for oil, and 911 was needed for war, etc.
I just get pissed off when people who haven't looked at the 911 evidence will call it crazy. I mean, it's asinine. I don't know why I argue it here. Mr I will spend the rest of his life calling it crazy, as his co-workers, clients, friends, and fmaily all LOOK at the evidence and realize shit, they *did* let it happen and stifle the investigation.
Joe, you admit you "didn't pay attention" and voted for a scumbag like Clinton. I contend that you haven't "paid attention" to the 911 evidence, and challenge you to look at it.
To decline means you prefer to not "pay attention". You're no better than a liberal at that point - at least they do their fvckin research.
240, I have watched just about all the vids since I started posting here and I still don't buy into your theory. Not because I refuse to, but because I simply can't grasp an act like that in America. I think people like you that sit here all day and hear nothing else start to believe it, that is simple psychology. Tell someone something over and over and they will eventually believe it to be true.
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I simply can't grasp an act like that in America.
Okay. Can you grasp an act like that in OTHER nations?
Do you believe leaders of other nations would engage in a small self-attack if it meant access to trillions in oil and gret world position?
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240, I have watched just about all the vids since I started posting here and I still don't buy into your theory. Not because I refuse to, but because I simply can't grasp an act like that in America. I think people like you that sit here all day and hear nothing else start to believe it, that is simple psychology. Tell someone something over and over and they will eventually believe it to be true.
There is no way that a conspiracy of that magnitude could be kept under wraps. Aside from the money needed to pay people off, there is no way that all those people could keep their mouths shut. Add into the foray the allegations that there were missile blasts (of which there is no proof) and that flight 93 passengers are still alive (families must be good fakers in terms of sorrow). Just consider the source EGJ.
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Yea, I mean you are not allowed to switch parties and get a better/different perspective.
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Was John Kerry allowed to change his position on Bush's war?
Hummmmm..... I smell another hypocrite.
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Okay. Can you grasp an act like that in OTHER nations?
Do you believe leaders of other nations would engage in a small self-attack if it meant access to trillions in oil and gret world position?
That is where you liberals lose middle americans. You compare our great nation to other nations and that just isn't right. I could see a hugo chavez/Iran/Russia do something like that but not an England/canada/italy/france/japan etc.
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That is where you liberals lose middle americans. You compare our great nation to other nations and that just isn't right. I could see a hugo chavez/Iran/Russia do something like that but not an England/canada/italy/france/japan etc.
Please tell me why Russia would do it but Italy would not.
Please tell me why Chavez would do it but Japan would not.
You made the statement. back it up. Both are large soverign nations, and both's leaders have one job: Do what is best for their people and nation's longterm interests.
In a utilitarian sense (where will the nation be in 50 years) 911 was a jackpot for US energy interests.
Tell me why some nations would make this sacrifice and others wouldn't.
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Yea, I mean you are not allowed to switch parties and get a better/different perspective.
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Was John Kerry allowed to change his position on Bush's war?
Hummmmm..... I smell another hypocrite.
Switching parties-which can def be done in a lifetime for a number of reasons-compared to switching positions for votes is a big difference. Kerry's reasons are obvious (for votes) but yet he still went on to say that bin Laden should die for what he did.
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Switching parties is allowed.........changing your position on Bush's war, which was based on proven lies .........is not allowed.
Ok, I finally understand.
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Switching parties is allowed.........changing your position on Bush's war, which was based on proven lies .........is not allowed.
Ok, I finally understand.
No, and I never said anything about Kerry, you did. Don't put words in my mouth. Kerry signed off on the war and then flip flopped to garner votes, which is not admirable IMO. I know old timers who voted Dem for Kennedy and then voted Repub after him until the present. How is that even comparable? Many people in America start out as Dems (esp college kids) and end up becoming more conservative/Repub as they age, although there are plenty of Libs too. The two are not even close.
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There is no way that a conspiracy of that magnitude could be kept under wraps. Aside from the money needed to pay people off, there is no way that all those people could keep their mouths shut. Add into the foray the allegations that there were missile blasts (of which there is no proof) and that flight 93 passengers are still alive (families must be good fakers in terms of sorrow). Just consider the source EGJ.
Oh, the reason it didn't happen is "nobody could keep it a secret"?
What kind of flatfoot simp ass are you? it's fucking easy. If you wanted to do it, you would pull it off, then put everyone involved in a plane and drop it in the ocean. how fucking hard is that? Stop allowing small logistical hypothetical non-issues to distract you from the topic. Why did WTC7 fall in under 7 seconds, cappy?
Just consider the source EGJ.
Either tell me why WTC7 fell, or go fvck your mother. We're playing nice and you get insulting. okay, tell me how WTC7 fell, please.
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Oh, the reason it didn't happen is "nobody could keep it a secret"?
What kind of flatfoot simp ass are you? it's fucking easy. If you wanted to do it, you would pull it off, then put everyone involved in a plane and drop it in the ocean. how fucking hard is that? Stop allowing small logistical hypothetical non-issues to distract you from the topic. Why did WTC7 fall in under 7 seconds, cappy?
Either tell me why WTC7 fell, or go fvck your mother. We're playing nice and you get insulting. okay, tell me how WTC7 fell, please.
Rob, 1.) I never mentioned your name so you have gotten personal and I have not 2.) I am realistic in thinking that there are more than "small logistical issues" to carry out. Massive payouts, gag orders to civilians, etc would not be possible. No clear evidence of missiles anywhere. Fuzzy images (much like the fake Bin Laden tape you referenced) from different 9/11 areas are not conclusive in the least. I am not getting into a 9/11 discussion with you because of reasons we have already discussed. Don't know about WTC 7. How many seconds on WTC 1 and 2?
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Rob, 1.) I never mentioned your name so you have gotten personal and I have not 2.) I am realistic in thinking that there are more than "small logistical issues" to carry out. Massive payouts, gag orders to civilians, etc would not be possible. No clear evidence of missiles anywhere. Fuzzy images (much like the fake Bin Laden tape you referenced) from different 9/11 areas are not conclusive in the least. I am not getting into a 9/11 discussion with you because of reasons we have already discussed. Don't know about WTC 7. How many seconds on WTC 1 and 2?
1 and 2 fell in under ten seconds.
And I don't care about proving anyone wrong, I'd just like to see a second investigation. I know we're not going to convict anyone on internet videos (and prob not in court ever either). but come on dude, why didn't they grill the FAA Supervisor who destroyed the recordings that morning? Why didn't they grill the NORAD guy who got caught lying about when they found out? WHy hide 85 videotapes of teh pentagon, when the physical evidence says missile (you saw the hole) and witnesses were all over the place on what they saw? Planes can't turn on those dimes like flight 77... and to hit the very office where all the people behind the missing 2.3 trillion and everyone who planned that day's coincidental drills.... come on! It reeks!
I know i can't effect 911 outcome, so I don't care about that. And I know i'm not convicting anyone or proving anything - i never said i was. I just show cause for need of a second investigation, here on getbig because I like to argue history. When dickheads who haven't researched it tell me i'm stupid, it pisses me off. It shouldn't. I try to walk away, and did for several months if anyone had noticed. Then I get a new round of folks calling it rediculous when honestly... 3 planes bringing 8 buildings that day... THAT is rediculous. Not testing metals for explosives residue when WC7 LOOKS like explosives... THAT is redicuolus.
eh, screw it. i said i was done arguing 911 and got sucked back into it. i'm done now.
When asshats tell me i'm crazy, that pisses me off and i like to argue.
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and sorry about the mother part :) It was a random hurled response to what i saw as an attack.
while i know 911 will never be solved officially, it sure is fun watching it come out in chunks tonight. Al Gore caught his tongue tonight - ALMOST mentioned it as Bush's BIG mistake as 911....
remember that gore said in dec 06 to a washington mag (quarterly maybe?) that Bush knew and didn't act.
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I believe Mr Hate voted for Bill Clinton. That makes him a flaming liberal in my book.
If I were a Liberal I'd promptly seek physiciatric help after I got out of the hospital for attempted suicide!
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If I were a Liberal I'd promptly seek physiciatric help after I got out of the hospital for attempted suicide!
Anytime you need to "checkout" from your facility with a weekend pass.......Let me know, I'd be happy to supply you with a written excuse. ;D
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Anytime you need to "checkout" from your facility with a weekend pass.......Let me know, I'd be happy to supply you with a written excuse. ;D
Ok, that was funny :D
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Joe, you endorse murder here. By voting for those who you'd know did it, you are enabling it and are therefore morally culpable. I find it shocking that you don't believe liberals can go to heaven, but you would proudly vote for people you know killed innocents here. You endorse murder here. I said I wouldn't rag on you anymore, so I'll let it go now. Just thought you'd put what is right, and what God would want, over your hate for libs. I guess not.
Rob, that statement was fucked up and I'll respond after I'm done this morning, that was over the top, you and Rosie O'Donnell need to pull your heads out of those CT sites and wake up, one of the reasons she got fired was because of making accusations that she couldn't support....wake the hell up Rob!
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Rob, that statement was fucked up and I'll respond after I'm done this morning, that was over the top, you and Rosie O'Donnell need to pull your heads out of those CT sites and wake up, one of the reasons she got fired was because of making accusations that she couldn't support....wake the hell up Rob!
Joe, you just told us that IF repubs did 911, you would vote to keep them in power.
That is an endorsement of murder.
I said *IF* nice and big. We don't know *IF* it was an inside job. We know there are major holes in the story a second investigation would clear up. I presented you witha hypothetical and you answered.
I'm not making an accusation here. So your rosie analogy was odd. If you had WATCHED Rosie instead of just regurgitating what Fox tells you, you'd see she DOESN"T ACCUSE BUSH of 911... she only shows the evidence that bombs went off in the foot of towers 1/2 (seismic and eyewitness testimony), and asks how WTC7 fell. Rosie isn't making 9/11 political - she is sticking with evidence (which I don't think you want to argue, as she would pwn you up and down).
You speak on 911 skepticism as crazy, but you don't understand their evidence. You speak on Rosie as crazy, but you just misstated her position on 9/11. You're telling me to "wake the hell up", but you have the facts wrong.
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If I were a Liberal I'd promptly seek physiciatric help after I got out of the hospital for attempted suicide!
That's kind of offensive dude.
liberal, progressive
noun.
a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties.
How can anyone be against the protection of civil liberties?
I'm all about them... Isn't that what we're fighting a war over?
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Isn't that what we're fighting a war over?
Sadly no.
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How can anyone be against the protection of civil liberties?
Because they are racist, sexist, self-centered, fearful, take your pick. The Republican party thrives on these characteristics.
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That's kind of offensive dude.
liberal, progressive
noun.
a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties.
How can anyone be against the protection of civil liberties?
I'm all about them... Isn't that what we're fighting a war over?
liberals pick and choose the civil liberties they want to defend, what about my right to worship where I please? If I were muslim they would defend it, but dang sure not christians
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Because they are racist, sexist, self-centered, fearful, take your pick. The Republican party thrives on these characteristics.
You're freaking high (thus the name "LSD") when was the last time a Democratic Pres appointed an african american to his cabinet, you're party are the one's that keep Robert"KKK" Bird in office, and it was YOUR President that fucked an intern then lied to the world about, and you damn well right we're fearful, we're not treasonist sympathizers like YOUR party.
Hey Rob, would you consider LSD's post "labeling"..................I sure as fuck would >:(!
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Switching parties is allowed.........changing your position on Bush's war, which was based on proven lies .........is not allowed.
Ok, I finally understand.
Nothing proved bud.......sorry. You want to put the balme on someone, put it on Clinton and Tenet.
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Joe, you just told us that IF repubs did 911, you would vote to keep them in power.
That is an endorsement of murder.
Where did I-One state that IF repubs did the 911, he would still vote for them?
Joe, two simple questions - and if you answer them, I will never rag on you again here:
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If you found out that the war in Iraq was started primarily for oil, would you still vote repub?
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If you found out that 911 was allowed to happen by our leaders, would you still vote repub?
Thanks.
I wasn't ignoring it, I was involved in another battle.
Question 1 - Yes, because I know it wasn't exclusivly for the oil, if we were allowed offshore drilling off of our shores and Anwar we wouldn't have to protect our intrests, but that's a question for the enviro's now isn't it?
Question 2 - It's a rediculous question and yes, I would!
I said *IF* nice and big. We don't know *IF* it was an inside job. We know there are major holes in the story a second investigation would clear up. I presented you witha hypothetical and you answered.
I'm not making an accusation here.
Joe, you endorse murder here. By voting for those who you'd know did it, you are enabling it and are therefore morally culpable. I find it shocking that you don't believe liberals can go to heaven, but you would proudly vote for people you know killed innocents here. You endorse murder here. I said I wouldn't rag on you anymore, so I'll let it go now. Just thought you'd put what is right, and what God would want, over your hate for libs. I guess not.
If you're not making an accusation, then what are you doing?
As a side note, I find it interesting that you hold I-One to moral standards, and are shocked by his actions, and at the same time, you have no problem with being a hypocrite:
i don't support it when i'm sitting online feeling ethical. but if I had to push a button which would end all war, but send the US back to where it would be without those wars, i wouldn't do it. I'm a hypocrite, i'll admit it. I don't like the war, and i hate fvckers who argue it's about rainbows and cotton candy when it's really about bases and oil... but i wouldn't stop it if if meant losing my standard of life. I admit it's a poor moral position to have.
I find it interesting, that's all.
-Hedge
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liberals pick and choose the civil liberties they want to defend, what about my right to worship where I please? If I were muslim they would defend it, but dang sure not christians
I've defended and as previous posts have stated, so have the ACLU.
Are you hating just to hate?
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Who asked for you input?
I give it where and when I want. Deal with it.
You're obsessed with him.
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I give it where and when I want. Deal with it.
You're obsessed with him.
Actually, your obsessed with me. :-*
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Please tell me why Russia would do it but Italy would not.
Please tell me why Chavez would do it but Japan would not.
You made the statement. back it up. Both are large soverign nations, and both's leaders have one job: Do what is best for their people and nation's longterm interests.
In a utilitarian sense (where will the nation be in 50 years) 911 was a jackpot for US energy interests.
Tell me why some nations would make this sacrifice and others wouldn't.
because Chavez and Putin are unstable people. If you don't believe that then you need to do some more reading. Look around, you will find someone to parrot
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because Chavez and Putin are unstable people. If you don't believe that then you need to do some more reading. Look around, you will find someone to parrot
Chavez is a nut....yes.
Putin unstable? never heard that before.
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Please tell me why Russia would do it but Italy would not.
Please tell me why Chavez would do it but Japan would not.
You made the statement. back it up. Both are large soverign nations, and both's leaders have one job: Do what is best for their people and nation's longterm interests.
In a utilitarian sense (where will the nation be in 50 years) 911 was a jackpot for US energy interests.
Tell me why some nations would make this sacrifice and others wouldn't.
Italy have a democratic tradition.
Russia doesn't.
-Hedge
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Actually, your obsessed with me. :-*
LOL... riiiiiiiiight
You sure post a lot of kisses here, Doctor Bitter
Are you trying to tell us something?
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Chavez is a nut....yes.
Putin unstable? never heard that before.
Either way, they were both ELECTED by their people... We have a problem with democracy now?
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Either way, they were both ELECTED by their people... We have a problem with democracy now?
Always have when we don't like the results.
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I've defended and as previous posts have stated, so have the ACLU.
Are you hating just to hate?
no I like you unfortunately
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Either way, they were both ELECTED by their people... We have a problem with democracy now?
I was listing countries I thought might stage stage an act like 9/11. I never said anything about overthrowing.
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I was listing countries I thought might stage stage an act like 9/11. I never said anything about overthrowing.
Those countries are worried about their economies, they have no desire to harm the US by causing physical damage, I truly believe they just want money.
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Those countries are worried about their economies, they have no desire to harm the US by causing physical damage, I truly believe they just want money.
no you have to read what me and 240 were talking about. He asked if I thought a dictator would hurt his own country for money, I listes Russia and Venezuela
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He asked if I thought a dictator would hurt his own country for money, I listes Russia and Venezuela
Political clue- dictators run right-wing fascist governments.
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no you have to read what me and 240 were talking about. He asked if I thought a dictator would hurt his own country for money, I listes Russia and Venezuela
I guess I mixed points... Do I think they would hurt their own "people" for money... sure... but then, so do our leaders.
It is what it is.
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Political clue- dictators run right-wing fascist governments.
Bullshit.
The come from the extreme right AND left.
You just have a hard on for conservatives, commie.