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Title: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Alex23 on June 27, 2007, 11:17:14 AM
Do you consider yourself having superior genetics for being able to lean down eating non traditional foods?
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on June 27, 2007, 11:24:20 AM
Do you consider yourself having superior genetics for being able to lean down eating non traditional foods?
When are you going to post your pre contest pics?
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 27, 2007, 11:26:03 AM
Do you consider yourself having superior genetics for being able to lean down eating non traditional foods?
No. Everyone and Anyone can do it.
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Joey Tito on June 27, 2007, 11:32:12 AM
HAHA.  Another failed attempt by Alex Gautier to stir shit 8)  Alex, when will you learn? ::)

Alex, why don't you log in under your "Krusader" or "Peptide Wizard" handles and own us all? ::)
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Alex23 on June 27, 2007, 11:35:15 AM
No. Everyone and Anyone can do it.

Good answer, I agree.

However, what about insulin resistance in the more obsese individuals? We both know that the fatter the more resistant they are. Wouldn't be better to eliminate processed food at the begining to avoid insulin spikes an further the resistance and storage tendencies?
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 27, 2007, 11:42:25 AM
Good answer, I agree.

However, what about insulin resistance in the more obsese individuals? We both know that the fatter the more resistant they are. Wouldn't be better to eliminate processed food at the begining to avoid insulin spikes an further the resistance and storage tendencies?

Define Processed food.  Anything canned is processed.  Anything Frozen is Processed.  Anything with fortified vitamins are processed.  Anything with salt is processed. 

Processed is a dumb term, understood by few. 

Insulin production directly related to energy intake.  It is impossible to have high Insulin levels with low calories. 

Furthermore, The GI index is looked down upon as useless by the American Diabetic Association as well as the American Medical Association.

It is impossible to store fat in a caloric deficit.  It is also impossible to get a high insulin spike with low calories.
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Bluto on June 27, 2007, 11:46:36 AM
adonis

do you have an eating disorder?
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Alex23 on June 27, 2007, 11:51:56 AM
Define Processed food.  Anything canned is processed.  Anything Frozen is Processed.  Anything with fortified vitamins are processed.  Anything with salt is processed. 

Processed is a dumb term, understood by few. 

Insulin production directly related to energy intake.  It is impossible to have high Insulin levels with low calories. 

Furthermore, The GI index is looked down upon as useless by the American Diabetic Association as well as the American Medical Association.

It is impossible to store fat in a caloric deficit.  It is also impossible to get a high insulin spike with low calories.

More precisely processed sugars with bad Glycemic indexes. Anybody can squeeze 4-6 cokes in a low calorie diets. However each intake will cause a dramtic insulin spike, which is not good regardless of the calorie intake. Also cleary stated as "avoids" by the American Diabetic Association
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 27, 2007, 11:53:48 AM
adonis

do you have an eating disorder?

No.  I eat optimally everyday.  

Here is what I ate Yesterday:

2 Large Tomatoes
1 Banana
1 Caribou Coffee Mint Bar
1 Large Chili Dog
1 Ostrich Burger
1 CheeseBurger
Serving of Ben and Jerry`s Brownie Batter
1 serving Seattle Chocolate
1 Rice Krispy/Marshmallow treat
3 Glasses of Wine
1 Serving of English Baked Beans
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Kelly Jane on June 27, 2007, 12:00:20 PM
did you get gas???? :D
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: TooPowerful4u on June 27, 2007, 12:02:12 PM
Define "high".  100g of dextrose will CERTAINLY stimulate a strong insulin release.  On the other hand, too high of calories can BLUNT the insulin response (as is when fat is present).  So... you are partially wrong in all your statements

Define Processed food.  Anything canned is processed.  Anything Frozen is Processed.  Anything with fortified vitamins are processed.  Anything with salt is processed. 

Processed is a dumb term, understood by few. 

Insulin production directly related to energy intake.  It is impossible to have high Insulin levels with low calories.   

Furthermore, The GI index is looked down upon as useless by the American Diabetic Association as well as the American Medical Association.

It is impossible to store fat in a caloric deficit.  It is also impossible to get a high insulin spike with low calories.  
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Bluto on June 27, 2007, 12:03:22 PM
No.  I eat optimally everyday. 

Here is what I ate Yesterday:

2 Large Tomatoes
1 Banana
1 Caribou Coffee Mint Bar
1 Large Chili Dog
1 Ostrich Burger
1 CheeseBurger
Serving of Ben and Jerry`s Brownie Batter
1 serving Seattle Chocolate
1 Rice Krispy/Marshmallow treat
3 Glasses of Wine
1 Serving of English Baked Beans

looking good there. good ol unhealthy nutrition lacking american diet.
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 27, 2007, 12:04:01 PM
Define "high".  100g of dextrose will CERTAINLY stimulate a strong insulin release.  On the other hand, too high of calories can BLUNT the insulin response (as is when fat is present).  So... you are partially wrong in all your statements

Anything over 2000 calories or so, plus or minus 300.

Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: UK Gold on June 27, 2007, 12:04:55 PM
No.  I eat optimally everyday.  

Here is what I ate Yesterday:

2 Large Tomatoes
1 Banana
1 Caribou Coffee Mint Bar
1 Large Chili Dog
1 Ostrich Burger
1 CheeseBurger
Serving of Ben and Jerry`s Brownie Batter
1 serving Seattle Chocolate
1 Rice Krispy/Marshmallow treat
3 Glasses of Wine
1 Serving of English Baked Beans
How many calories is that?
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 27, 2007, 12:06:19 PM
How many calories is that?
1810

Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Bluto on June 27, 2007, 12:07:04 PM
1810 is perfect
























for a girl in fashion
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 27, 2007, 12:08:51 PM
2 Large Tomatoes-60 calories
1 Banana-70 calories
1 Caribou Coffee Mint Bar-140 calories
1 Large Chili Dog-300 calories
1 Ostrich Burger-120 calories
1 CheeseBurger-210 calories
Serving of Ben and Jerry`s Brownie Batter-300 calories
1 serving Seattle Chocolate-100 calories
1 Rice Krispy/Marshmallow treat-140 calories
3 Glasses of Wine-300 calories
1 Serving of English Baked Beans-170 calories
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 27, 2007, 12:10:47 PM
Should be 1910 not 1810
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: pumpher on June 27, 2007, 12:11:20 PM
Do you drink 3 glasses of wine everyday?
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 27, 2007, 12:12:14 PM
Do you drink 3 glasses of wine everyday?
1-3 Everyday, yes.
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: chainsaw on June 27, 2007, 12:13:10 PM
2 Large Tomatoes-60 calories
1 Banana-70 calories
1 Caribou Coffee Mint Bar-140 calories
1 Large Chili Dog-300 calories
1 Ostrich Burger-120 calories
1 CheeseBurger-210 calories
Serving of Ben and Jerry`s Brownie Batter-300 calories
1 serving Seattle Chocolate-100 calories
1 Rice Krispy/Marshmallow treat-140 calories
3 Glasses of Wine-300 calories
1 Serving of English Baked Beans-170 calories



You may be in a caloric deficit, but I think even more vegetables would be a good addition.  Also, to stay in a caloric deficit, you must be quite active.  That looks like alot of calories.

Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: EL Mariachi on June 27, 2007, 12:13:42 PM
alex you re obese.
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: swilkins1984 on June 27, 2007, 12:22:42 PM
2 Large Tomatoes-60 calories
1 Banana-70 calories
1 Caribou Coffee Mint Bar-140 calories
1 Large Chili Dog-300 calories
1 Ostrich Burger-120 calories
1 CheeseBurger-210 calories

Serving of Ben and Jerry`s Brownie Batter-300 calories
1 serving Seattle Chocolate-100 calories
1 Rice Krispy/Marshmallow treat-140 calories
3 Glasses of Wine-300 calories
1 Serving of English Baked Beans-170 calories


Is that all in a burger? Must have been pretty damn small.  :-\
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 27, 2007, 12:24:00 PM
Is that all in a burger? Must have been pretty damn small.  :-\
4-6 ounces of meat in each.

Not small, regular serving size.
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: JasonH on June 27, 2007, 12:24:48 PM
Adonis I'm not sure I condone this type of eating - you must get mad acne from it. I know I would. Stick with the healthy stuff man - a guy with your genetics will prosper.
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 27, 2007, 12:24:54 PM

I did eat carrots and Brocolli also.
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: swilkins1984 on June 27, 2007, 12:28:42 PM
4-6 ounces of meat in each.

Not small, regular serving size.

Really and bun too?  Was it made by you or did you order it and if so where?
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 27, 2007, 12:33:40 PM
Really and bun too?  Was it made by you or did you order it and if so where?
The Ostrich Burger was.
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: TooPowerful4u on June 27, 2007, 12:35:15 PM
I eat whatever i want, and as much of it as i want and have had abs since i was 2  ;D
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Joey Tito on June 27, 2007, 12:47:19 PM
I eat whatever i want, and as much of it as i want and have had abs since i was 2  ;D

bullshit
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: xpac2 on June 27, 2007, 12:50:50 PM
No.  I eat optimally everyday. 

Here is what I ate Yesterday:

2 Large Tomatoes
1 Banana
1 Caribou Coffee Mint Bar
1 Large Chili Dog
1 Ostrich Burger
1 CheeseBurger
Serving of Ben and Jerry`s Brownie Batter
1 serving Seattle Chocolate
1 Rice Krispy/Marshmallow treat
3 Glasses of Wine
1 Serving of English Baked Beans

Sure you did "Big Guy"  ::)
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Alex23 on June 27, 2007, 12:51:52 PM
bullshit

Layoff the middle Eastern shit and you could have abs too.
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Matt C on June 27, 2007, 01:42:25 PM
I eat whatever i want, and as much of it as i want and have had abs since i was 2  ;D

Yes, but you're also juiced so that's not fair.  ;D

That being said, I know a few guys who are not juiced who eat as much of whatever it is they want and also have abs.  All genetics.
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Nordic Superman on June 27, 2007, 01:55:16 PM
Adonis I'm not sure I condone this type of eating - you must get mad acne from it. I know I would. Stick with the healthy stuff man - a guy with your genetics will prosper.

In the future, remove the donkey cock from your haggis, it's turning you into a fucking fag.
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Matt C on June 27, 2007, 01:56:51 PM
I trust Alex23 as he is one of the biggest dudes on getbig.
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Joey Tito on June 27, 2007, 01:57:23 PM
Layoff the middle Eastern shit and you could have abs too.

Why so bitter, Alex? ;D
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: TooPowerful4u on June 27, 2007, 01:57:46 PM
Yes, but you're also juiced so that's not fair.  ;D

That being said, I know a few guys who are not juiced who eat as much of whatever it is they want and also have abs.  All genetics.

yes i was juiced since i was 2  ::)
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Matt C on June 27, 2007, 01:58:33 PM
yes i was juiced since i was 2  ::)

How can you have abs at two?

What do you think about Layne Norton?
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Hedgehog on June 27, 2007, 03:00:25 PM
1810 is perfect
























for a girl in fashion


LMFAO

-Hedge
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Hedgehog on June 27, 2007, 03:00:47 PM
I did eat carrots and Brocolli also.

Good on you!!!

-Hedge
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Matt C on June 27, 2007, 03:08:53 PM
TooPowerful4u works for Gaspari Nutrition, so I assume he takes SIZEON.

Grape blast is the best flavour.
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: davidpaul on June 27, 2007, 03:14:20 PM
TooPowerful4u works for Gaspari Nutrition, so I assume he takes SIZEON.

Grape blast is the best flavour.


He also gets in a lot of his valuabe protein straight from the tap, i think he had a articale about it on bodybuiding.com, apparently he thinks it is more easily absorbed than the protein from eggwhites.
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: onlyme on June 27, 2007, 04:40:09 PM
No.  I eat optimally everyday. 

Here is what I ate Yesterday:

2 Large Tomatoes
1 Banana
1 Caribou Coffee Mint Bar
1 Large Chili Dog
1 Ostrich Burger
1 CheeseBurger
Serving of Ben and Jerry`s Brownie Batter
1 serving Seattle Chocolate
1 Rice Krispy/Marshmallow treat
3 Glasses of Wine
1 Serving of English Baked Beans

Are you sure you ate the banana
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: swilkins1984 on June 27, 2007, 05:14:21 PM
Are you sure you ate the banana

LMFAO  ;D
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Alex23 on June 27, 2007, 10:21:48 PM
I trust Alex23 as he is one of the biggest dudes on getbig.

right back at you ;D.

Matt C = a very calm and reflexive personality.

We'll meet IRL pretty soon buddy ;D
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Joey Tito on June 27, 2007, 10:24:10 PM
right back at you ;D.

Matt C = a very calm and reflexive personality.

We'll meet IRL pretty soon buddy ;D

Let the circle jerk begin ::)
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Alex23 on June 27, 2007, 10:47:15 PM
Let the circle jerk begin ::)

Some weird first thoughs popping in your mind. Where is it coming from IYO?
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on June 28, 2007, 11:47:24 AM
t3 works great when wanting to eat junk and stll stay shredded
Title: Re: Serious question for Adam Abeles.
Post by: Your MAAAAaaaa on June 28, 2007, 12:00:48 PM
right back at you ;D.

Matt C = a very calm and reflexive personality.

We'll meet IRL pretty soon buddy ;D

Watch out!! He will appear from behind your bathroom door unannounced in a frilly thong only! :-X


ta ta