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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: jtsunami on July 03, 2007, 06:47:56 AM
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I ordered his shakes to try them out. Never heard Milos mention his post workout Amino shakes, are they important in the mix as well to anybody that knows about this?
jt
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He made a VERY convincing argument posted here last night demonstrating the importance of shakes DURING the workout.
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it's a drug-cocktail, not a shake! ::)
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He made a VERY convincing argument posted here last night demonstrating the importance of shakes DURING the workout.
I always make sure to have one about halfway into my workout. Where is this thread at anyway.
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MILOS:
I have been talking about it for years but some would just not want to listen...
THE ONLY opportunity during a day when blood flow to the muscle is overwhelming is only DURING the training!
Think!
Normally 5 liters of blood goes through your body with 10-15...OK - 20 % (tops) going to your muscles at rest...
Blood flow increases 5 fold (or more) during intense training...and 60-70...even 80 % going to your muscles!!!
Are you paying attention?
Now, what if that blood is SATURATED with most anabolic nutrients in elemental form - ready to be pushed into the cells (should I say muscle cells)?
Free form aminos - SPECIFIC ESSENTIAL AMINO ACIDS that your body CANNOT manufacture within and therefore MUST be consumed - in right amounts at the right time being in blood which is now delivered to the working muscle with TRANSPORTER (insulin) available and ready to push ALL THE NUTRIENTS (aminos, glucose, ATP...) where they suppose to go (muscle cells off course)...
Think of blood already saturated (with PRE WORKOUT DRINK OF CHOICE) that is continuously being "fortified" with additional nutrients of choice (through DURING THE WORKOUT DRINK - which is taken after each set...)
Now think of the TYPE of the workout that I am using with my athletes (GIANT SETS - crazy intensity, high volume, variety of exercises, angles, principles, grips, speeds...etc...etc - which certainly stimulates MORE muscle fibers and muscle cells than ANY OTHER WORKOUT...) - nutrients IN and OUT...blood flow to the MAX...muscle stimulation extraordinary and CONSTANT...Storage hormone present and ready to "free" super saturated blood from overwhelming amount of glucose and aminos...and cells (muscle cells off course) "screaming" for them....
What do you think will happen?
Empty cells surrounded with glucose and aminos in presence of insulin would REFUSE to take anything as science tells us that body should wait for the "window of opportunity" for that to happen - AFTER THE WORKOUT?
THINK AGAIN!
Well, that's simplified version of my theory which contradicts what is accepted by many experts in field of exercise physiology...
Why it is not accepted yet?
Because nobody really suggested for this to be considered and study to be made...
Do the "study" and publish results...than criticize...
Also, as some would think - nothing new...simple whey, creatine, glutamine, vitargo in any amounts would do it...DON'T BE SO SURE...
It is much more than that...and for patient - everything will be explained...OFF COURSE IF I GET THEIR INTEREST...
First step is: THINK ABOUT IT AND IF YOU FIND IT LOGICAL - TRY IT...and let me know what happens
www.koloseum.com
Unfortunately - I don't have much of my "initial order" - and next order will be available in about 6 weeks...but few of you who will TRY - let me know what you think...
If you have any questions - find me on my board...as lately I don't have much time to come here (not that I don't want...but really have no time...Today is little exception...but I have to go now -anyway...)
Good luck...
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Interesting...
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it's a drug-cocktail, not a shake! ::)
Rather..it is drug-like results producing shake... ;)
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Rather..it is drug-like results producing shake... ;)
yes!!!!!!!!!
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MILOS:
I have been talking about it for years but some would just not want to listen...
THE ONLY opportunity during a day when blood flow to the muscle is overwhelming is only DURING the training!
Think!
Normally 5 liters of blood goes through your body with 10-15...OK - 20 % (tops) going to your muscles at rest...
Blood flow increases 5 fold (or more) during intense training...and 60-70...even 80 % going to your muscles!!!
Are you paying attention?
Now, what if that blood is SATURATED with most anabolic nutrients in elemental form - ready to be pushed into the cells (should I say muscle cells)?
Free form aminos - SPECIFIC ESSENTIAL AMINO ACIDS that your body CANNOT manufacture within and therefore MUST be consumed - in right amounts at the right time being in blood which is now delivered to the working muscle with TRANSPORTER (insulin) available and ready to push ALL THE NUTRIENTS (aminos, glucose, ATP...) where they suppose to go (muscle cells off course)...
Think of blood already saturated (with PRE WORKOUT DRINK OF CHOICE) that is continuously being "fortified" with additional nutrients of choice (through DURING THE WORKOUT DRINK - which is taken after each set...)
Now think of the TYPE of the workout that I am using with my athletes (GIANT SETS - crazy intensity, high volume, variety of exercises, angles, principles, grips, speeds...etc...etc - which certainly stimulates MORE muscle fibers and muscle cells than ANY OTHER WORKOUT...) - nutrients IN and OUT...blood flow to the MAX...muscle stimulation extraordinary and CONSTANT...Storage hormone present and ready to "free" super saturated blood from overwhelming amount of glucose and aminos...and cells (muscle cells off course) "screaming" for them....
What do you think will happen?
Empty cells surrounded with glucose and aminos in presence of insulin would REFUSE to take anything as science tells us that body should wait for the "window of opportunity" for that to happen - AFTER THE WORKOUT?
THINK AGAIN!
Well, that's simplified version of my theory which contradicts what is accepted by many experts in field of exercise physiology...
Why it is not accepted yet?
Because nobody really suggested for this to be considered and study to be made...
Do the "study" and publish results...than criticize...
Also, as some would think - nothing new...simple whey, creatine, glutamine, vitargo in any amounts would do it...DON'T BE SO SURE...
It is much more than that...and for patient - everything will be explained...OFF COURSE IF I GET THEIR INTEREST...
First step is: THINK ABOUT IT AND IF YOU FIND IT LOGICAL - TRY IT...and let me know what happens
www.koloseum.com
Unfortunately - I don't have much of my "initial order" - and next order will be available in about 6 weeks...but few of you who will TRY - let me know what you think...
If you have any questions - find me on my board...as lately I don't have much time to come here (not that I don't want...but really have no time...Today is little exception...but I have to go now -anyway...)
Good luck...
Sounds quite interesting, I have a similar thinking. I def agree that it's very important to take in protein and vital aminos during the course of a workout to feed the muscles as they are being broken down especially when working out for an extreme pump. I need to contact him about this...
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I ordered his shakes to try them out. Never heard Milos mention his post workout Amino shakes, are they important in the mix as well to anybody that knows about this?
jt
Thank you for your order and more importantly - your faith to try what I am suggesting...
Make sure you take your diet seriously so cover all the "other" bases (enough calories, protein..etc)...
Than take 2 servings of PRELOAD 30 -45 minutes BEFORE the workout...and 2 servings of XXPLODE during the workout...(you can add carbs to both - like GATORADE...but I left it out for a reason - as so many people don't want extra carbs...and Gatorade is "cheap" enough for everyone to add - anyway...)
Than take RELOAD after the workout...as the postworkout shake...
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shake during workout?
i would feel sick by doing that. altest on back and leg day.
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For many of us, the gear stuff is somewhere we will never go. But the point about the muscles being most receptive to nutrients DURING the workout makes the most sense.
And yes, Milos is a businessman and is selling a product to meet this need. And the good thing is that many supplement companies are looking at their screens this morning, thinking "Wow, Milos' words make sense - let's buy a bottle of his stuff and reverse engineer it and see how it works."
6-12 months from now, the consumer (us) wins when ten new companies put out a similar or improved product to capitalize upon DURING-workout muscle factors. (And, the Milos generation II product will be there by then to challenge the market even more!) As more research is done to justify their products, we'll all learn more and the web will allow this info to be shared quickly. In 12-18 months, it'll be common knowledge which nutrients (and therefore products) are most beneficial.
Milos is on the cutting edge with a good idea here. The market will catch up. The consumer will win.
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hey Milos i'm going to ask again, is 5 grams of BCAA's, 5 grams of creatine and 12oz. of grape juice a "decent" substitute for the during workout shake, i understand that you want people to purchase your formula but is that a decent substitute? how quickly do you recommend drinking it during the workout?
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For many of us, the gear stuff is somewhere we will never go. But the point about the muscles being most receptive to nutrients DURING the workout makes the most sense.
And yes, Milos is a businessman and is selling a product to meet this need. And the good thing is that many supplement companies are looking at their screens this morning, thinking "Wow, Milos' words make sense - let's buy a bottle of his stuff and reverse engineer it and see how it works."
6-12 months from now, the consumer (us) wins when ten new companies put out a similar or improved product to capitalize upon DURING-workout muscle factors. As more research is done to justify their products, we'll all learn more and the web will allow this info to be shared quickly. In 12-18 months, it'll be common knowledge which nutrients (and therefore products) are most beneficial.
Milos is on the cutting edge with a good idea here. The market will catch up. The consumer will win.
I have seen one company that makes a BCAA powder which I am looking to get specifically for during workout shakes. If some other companies had something like that out pre mixed I would def buy it.
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Sounds quite interesting, I have a similar thinking. I def agree that it's very important to take in protein and vital aminos during the course of a workout to feed the muscles as they are being broken down especially when working out for an extreme pump. I need to contact him about this...
Taking PROTEIN will be COUNTERPRODUCTIVE...
#1) Digestion would require blood digressing from muscles to gut...
#2) Any protein would release to abundance of UNNECESSARY NONESSENTIAL AMINOS which would compete for absorption with ESSENTIAL - which WILL REDUCE ANABOLISM...(and I can tell you that FROM EXPERIENCE + you can find studies as well...)
PROTEIN SHOULD BE TAKEN ELSEWHERE but NOT immediately before and/or during the workout...SPECIFIC AMINOS at that time ARE WAY SUPPERIOR.
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hey Milos i'm going to ask again, is 5 grams of BCAA's, 5 grams of creatine and 12oz. of grape juice a "decent" substitute for the during workout shake, i understand that you want people to purchase your formula but is that a decent substitute? how quickly do you recommend drinking it during the workout?
Stop being cheap with that grape juice. ;D Get some dextroseformulation, Vitargo, or Waxy maize.
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and carbs dont need blood for digestion?
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shake during workout?
i would feel sick by doing that. altest on back and leg day.
It is NOT really a shake...it is mix of aminos + glucose + few other things ;D...and it doesn't taste like a shake...
Mixing with Gatorade would make it taste - almost like Gatorade alone...
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Stop being cheap with that grape juice. ;D Get some dextroseformulation, Vitargo, or Waxy maize.
yeah yeah i know but that's not answering my question, also is my 10 egg whites, 2 yolks and oatmeal an hour pre workout sufficient for the pre workout feed?
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I'm looking into getting this Univeral EAA formulation to try in the shake. Its flavored and a good price.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/eaa.html
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and carbs dont need blood for digestion?
Some carbs (starches) - amylopectin...amylose DO...but monomers, dimers and some polymers (glucose, sucrose, maltodextrin, Vitargo...etc) DON'T.
If you know anything about specific glucose (and glucose polymers) you would know that indeed YOU DON'T NEED blood for digestion...
It takes about 3 minutes for glucose to finds its way from your mouth to your bloodstream...
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Taking PROTEIN will be COUNTERPRODUCTIVE...
#1) Digestion would require blood digressing from muscles to gut...
#2) Any protein would release to abundance of UNNECESSARY NONESSENTIAL AMINOS which would compete for absorption with ESSENTIAL - which WILL REDUCE ANABOLISM...(and I can tell you that FROM EXPERIENCE + you can find studies as well...)
PROTEIN SHOULD BE TAKEN ELSEWHERE but NOT immediately before and/or during the workout...SPECIFIC AMINOS at that time ARE WAY SUPPERIOR.
I see, well does it help that I at least stick to whey isolate??? Also I mentioned in another post about using BCAA powder, do you recommend using mostly just a powder like that mixed with gatorade (glucose/sucrose)
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hey Milos i'm going to ask again, is 5 grams of BCAA's, 5 grams of creatine and 12oz. of grape juice a "decent" substitute for the during workout shake, i understand that you want people to purchase your formula but is that a decent substitute? how quickly do you recommend drinking it during the workout?
It is decent substitute...and certainly better than NOTHING....but did you think about PROTEIN SYNTHESYS?
Assuming you have only 3 of EAA (as you are using only BCAA) how do you really see synthesys of any protein having only 3 (out of at least 8) necessary EAA?
If you need a chain with 8 strong links to hold something...would you be happy with only 3?
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This is old news repackaged. Typical of the nutritional industry. Anything for another buck.
You guys are starting to sound like the Muscle Mahyem, kiss asses.
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It is decent substitute...and certainly better than NOTHING....but did you think about PROTEIN SYNTHESYS?
Assuming you have only 3 of EAA (as you are using only BCAA) how do you really see synthesys of any protein having only 3 (out of at least 8) necessary EAA?
If you need a chain with 8 strong links to hold something...would you be happy with only 3?
Is that your secret then, you have the "perfect" mix of aminos. Can you at least give us a hint.
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My Milos Shakes brings all the boys to the yard
and their life is better than yours
damm right it's better than yours
I could teach you, but I'd have to charge
la la la la
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If you know anything about specific glucose (and glucose polymers) you would know that indeed YOU DON'T NEED blood for digestion...
It takes about 3 minutes for glucose to finds its way from your mouth to your bloodstream...
no i dont know anything about it thats why im asking. thanks for the answer.
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I don't see where he's getting the "complete protein won't be absorbed, but 8 essential amino acids in isolation will be" thing from. Unless there are numerous well-designed studies backing this up, it seems a bit spurious to me.
However, the concept of having nutrients in the bloodstream while the workout is happening and immediately thereafter does make a lot of sense. I'm just not buying the argument that a glucose/whey isolate combo wouldn't accomplish this.
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Some carbs (starches) - amylopectin...amylose DO...but monomers, dimers and some polymers (glucose, sucrose, maltodextrin, Vitargo...etc) DON'T.
If you know anything about specific glucose (and glucose polymers) you would know that indeed YOU DON'T NEED blood for digestion...
It takes about 3 minutes for glucose to finds its way from your mouth to your bloodstream...
Milos, Vitargo is pure amylopectin... it is amylopectin from barley starch. In the past it was amylopection from waxy maize starch. It is incorrect to differentiate between Vitargo and amylopectin when they are one and the same.
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i heard some good things about vitargo.
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Milos, Vitargo is pure amylopectin... it is amylopectin from barley starch. In the past it was amylopection from waxy maize starch. It is incorrect to differentiate between Vitargo and amylopectin when they are one and the same.
Highmolecular weight glucose polymers like VITARGO is not amylopectin that I as refering to...
I was simply answering question he was asking about the CRABS in general...not just "supplemental carbs".
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I don't see where he's getting the "complete protein won't be absorbed, but 8 essential amino acids in isolation will be" thing from. Unless there are numerous well-designed studies backing this up, it seems a bit spurious to me.
However, the concept of having nutrients in the bloodstream while the workout is happening and immediately thereafter does make a lot of sense. I'm just not buying the argument that a glucose/whey isolate combo wouldn't accomplish this.
You don't see?
COMPLETE protein is COMPLETE as it contains all the essential aminos we are talking about...but as a protein it is a chain of at least 100 amino acids - and #1 needs time to be broken down and digested...(therfore taking TIME and BLOOD)...and#2 - releasing high amount of NONESSENTIAL aminos which WILL compete for the absorption...
Do little search and I am sure you'll find it...but better yet TEST for yourself and see what happens.
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Highmolecular weight glucose polymers like VITARGO is not amylopectin that I as refering to...
I was simply answering question he was asking about the CRABS in general...not just "supplemental carbs".
you dont need additonal blood or water in your gut to digest Vitargo or amylopectin if mixed with an ample amount of fluids upon ingestion to create the proper osmolarity rate as both are the same... they are amylopectin. amylopectin has a high GI index and is great for stimulating insulin. it's the ideal carb source to ingest during your workout... don't matter if you pay top dollars to buy Vitargo brand or if you go with much cheaper wazxy maize starch from national starch company.
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FWIW - you guys should really look at Trueprotein's site, again if you haven't already. Put together your own blend of waxy maize + BCAA's or add in extra EAA or Leucine, reasonably priced too.
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you dont need additonal blood or water in your gut to digest Vitargo or amylopectin if mixed with an ample amount of fluids upon ingestion to create the proper osmolarity rate as both are the same... they are amylopectin. amylopectin has a high GI index and is great for stimulating insulin. it's the ideal carb source to ingest during your workout... don't matter if you pay top dollars to buy Vitargo brand or if you go with much cheaper wazxy maize starch from national starch company.
EXACTLY...
Vitargo IS FAST and will do the job just fine...and if you didn't see already - I wrote few articles about Vitargo and promoted for few years...
But, what I have realized IF we don't use HUGE amounts of GLUCOSE - than really Vitargo's benefits are not worth the price....
Vitargo is my choice if amount of carbs per serving exceed 100grams...
For this amount fast acting carbs in "my drink" I would certainly suggest VITARGO due to fast gastric emptying and beneficial osmolility...but if carbs are at 20-30-40-50-60 grams per serving than Glucose and/or Maltodextrin is JUST FINE but much less expensive!
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Rather..it is drug-like results producing shake... ;)
Yes, when you are on drugs. ;D
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Props to Milos for being the only supplement guy to actually state how his product works.
Wish you much luck..
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Props to Milos for being the only supplement guy to actually state how his product works.
Wish you much luck..
He's definitely one of the pros who actually knows the science behind what he is doing. I wrote a big article today on Milos in fact, but my FTP program seems to be not working.
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Milos,
Thank you for the informative answers, looking forward to trying the shakes when I get them!
jt
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Props to Milos for being the only supplement guy to actually state how his product works.
Wish you much luck..
Well, here it is...
Take bodybuilding magazines and look at the adds...Who understands WHAT is being sold?
Nano technology with pico precision of dormant muscle fibers which will be awaken using whatever pathway of genetically engineered keto molecules of nebulous's...
Today's pattern is: CONFUSE the consumer, serve them some high-tech terminology with spice of biochemistry - and expect them to try the supplement without asking HOW and WHY this supplement will really work...
I always stand behind my diets, training, supplements as I must elaborate HOW and WHY everything is going to work...
I wish MORE PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS before they just blindly do whatever.
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Yes, when you are on drugs. ;D
And when you are on drugs (right drugs that is) than results are even better... ;)
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I'm looking into getting this Univeral EAA formulation to try in the shake. Its flavored and a good price.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/eaa.html
That was a great find. I've been looking for something like this.
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we can't buy your products if we are not from USA ??? :(
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we can't buy your products if we are not from USA ??? :(
Not yet...give it another month or two...
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hey Milos i'm going to ask again, is 5 grams of BCAA's, 5 grams of creatine and 12oz. of grape juice a "decent" substitute for the during workout shake, i understand that you want people to purchase your formula but is that a decent substitute? how quickly do you recommend drinking it during the workout?
yes, squadfather, that is a very good substitute for the milos shake...just be sure to time it correctly. exactly 1 hour after your pre- workout cheesesteak ( fried onions and ketchup, of course)....and within 30 minutes of your post workout cherry garcia ice cream.......this way you can just fit it in with your existing diet....im here to help!
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Cherry garcia ice cream... i forgot they made that stuff... i used to eat a whole carton of that stuff at a time.
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Props to Milos for being the only supplement guy to actually state how his product works.
Wish you much luck..
exactly! on another getbig board, someone, whose name i wont mention, because i dont feel like reading 500 pages of repsonses from him, couldnt even answer questions as to what is in his products, but here we get whats in it AND how it works. thats amazing business practice there!
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Cherry garcia ice cream... i forgot they made that stuff... i used to eat a whole carton of that stuff at a time.
Hey man, just a friendly piece of advice, lay off that stuff, it's really not good for teh cancer victims you know.
Peace out & get well soon bro!
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(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g84/MR-BIG/Koloseum-spot-light.jpg)
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How much does this shake cost?
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;)
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Very cool...always love you art. You should post it here more often.
I tried the vanilla protein for the first time just now. It's good. Better or just as good as ON. And as soon as I finished, I weighed myself and gained 5lbs of pure muscle. Damm that stuff works! ;)
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Very cool...always love you art. You should post it here more often.
I tried the vanilla protein for the first time just now. It's good. Better or just as good as ON. And as soon as I finished, I weighed myself and gained 5lbs of pure muscle. Damm that stuff works! ;)
hey G, maybe I should give it a try, huh, break that 160lb barrier ;)
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hey G, maybe I should give it a try, huh, break that 160lb barrier ;)
Be careful tho. If you gain muscle too fast, you're heart and lungs won't be able to keep up. So don't drink more than a single serving each week, or you'll go overboard and hurt yourself.
Hitting 160lbs is a big step for you, so you'll want to take it slow.
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Be careful tho. If you gain muscle too fast, you're heart and lungs won't be able to keep up. So don't drink more than a single serving each week, or you'll go overboard and hurt yourself.
Hitting 160lbs is a big step for you, so you'll want to take it slow.
yeah I don't want to move up from my skinny-fat 145 to a svelt 160 too quickly, after all I don't want to get "too big" ;D
I heard that stuff was so potent it may get put on the banned substance list :o
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Taking PROTEIN will be COUNTERPRODUCTIVE...
#1) Digestion would require blood digressing from muscles to gut...
#2) Any protein would release to abundance of UNNECESSARY NONESSENTIAL AMINOS which would compete for absorption with ESSENTIAL - which WILL REDUCE ANABOLISM...(and I can tell you that FROM EXPERIENCE + you can find studies as well...)
PROTEIN SHOULD BE TAKEN ELSEWHERE but NOT immediately before and/or during the workout...SPECIFIC AMINOS at that time ARE WAY SUPPERIOR.
Not even hydrolyzed whey Iso? Its pretty damn close to straight amino's
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Pepto Bismo pre-workout works wonders. Drink some right before, during, and immediately after your workout along with some TACO BELL and a gallon of milk post workout. You will be amazed with the result.
Anyway Milo's answer to everything is insulin.
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Pepto Bismo pre-workout works wonders. Drink some right before, during, and immediately after your workout along with some TACO BELL and a gallon of milk post workout. You will be amazed with the result.
Anyway Milo's answer to everything is insulin.
Yes, if you drink a bunch of insulin right after the Taco Bell and stuff, you'll blow up huge!
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yeah I don't want to move up from my skinny-fat 145 to a svelt 160 too quickly, after all I don't want to get "too big" ;D
I heard that stuff was so potent it may get put on the banned substance list :o
I made these little banner-ads for wpse.com.
(http://www.wpse.com/images/koloseum.jpg)
Do you think Mustafa will get pissed if I put them on teammustafa.com too? ;D
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I made these little banner-ads for wpse.com.
(http://www.wpse.com/images/koloseum.jpg)
Do you think Mustafa will get pissed if I put them on teammustafa.com too? ;D
I wanted to buy milos' pwo powder but $70 is too much
plus I looked at the mixture and carbs and protein are 1:1..not optimal
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I wanted to buy milos' pwo powder but $70 is too much
plus I looked at the mixture and carbs and protein are 1:1..not optimal
i thought you were the "black Warren Buffet"? ::)
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I wanted to buy milos' pwo powder but $70 is too much
plus I looked at the mixture and carbs and protein are 1:1..not optimal
You didn't really help me w/ my question... :(
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i thought you were the "black Warren Buffet"? ::)
isn't Warren Buffet an old white rich guy?
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isn't Warren Buffet an old white rich guy?
yes.
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I made these little banner-ads for wpse.com.
(http://www.wpse.com/images/koloseum.jpg)
Do you think Mustafa will get pissed if I put them on teammustafa.com too? ;D
look at it this way , garraeth, if he does get pissed maybe he'll come looking for you and you'll get to meet your hero :D
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look at it this way , garraeth, if he does get pissed maybe he'll come looking for you and you'll get to meet your hero :D
haha, I'll get to "meet" him right before he puts a bullet between my eyes. kewl.
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Not even hydrolyzed whey Iso? Its pretty damn close to straight amino's
you could use 10g of whey protein isolate instead of straight aminos... within minutes of taking wpi you can measure an amino acid surge in your blood.
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i thought you were the "black Warren Buffet"? ::)
I am sure that warren doesn't waste his money. From what I have read he lives a modest life style
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isn't Warren Buffet an old white rich guy?
even so he has less body fat than 85% of Getbiggers
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I am sure that warren doesn't waste his money. From what I have read he lives a modest life style
you mean he's not pizzimpin' in da hizzouse with 24 inch spinners on his Escalizzade and eatin' frizzied chizznicken and drinkin' Kizzool Aid like you?
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you mean he's not pizzimpin' in da hizzouse with 24 inch spinners on his Escalizzade and eatin' frizzied chizznicken and drinkin' Kizzool Aid like you?
I'm sure he's out there doing that too -- kinda like how SteelPegasus goes out late at night and eats tea and crumpits with his pinky finger held high while wearing stockings and knickers with polo and dog racing on the tele.
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I'm sure he's out there doing that too -- kinda like how SteelPegasus goes out late at night and eats tea and crumpits with his pinky finger held high while wearing stockings and knickers with polo and dog racing on the tele.
no he doesn't, civilized white people would never let him into their world.
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you mean he's not pizzimpin' in da hizzouse with 24 inch spinners on his Escalizzade and eatin' frizzied chizznicken and drinkin' Kizzool Aid like you?
lol..that is actually funny
my car can't hold 24"..spinners are so last year
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I'm sure he's out there doing that too -- kinda like how SteelPegasus goes out late at night and eats tea and crumpits with his pinky finger held high while wearing stockings and knickers with polo and dog racing on the tele.
the only dog racing I watch is TA's dogs
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no he doesn't, civilized white people would never let him into their world.
my friend..I can say the same about you.
yes, you are white..trailer trash that is..the economic divide is the new racism
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lol..that is actually funny
my car can't hold 24"..spinners are so last year
you're right i should have known from the 1 inch thick 3 pound wooden bathroom door in your 54 dollar a month government subsidized "apartment", hahahaha, where do you hang all of your throwback jerseys and FUBU gear?
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you're right i should have known from the 1 inch thick 3 pound wooden bathroom door in your 54 dollar a month government subsidized "apartment", hahahaha, where do you hang all of your throwback jerseys and FUBU gear?
I wish..not in NYC my friend
my bathroom is pretty cool..cost me some good change to upgrade and put tiles and marble everywhere.
but enough about me..how is the diet going?