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Title: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: SirTraps on August 16, 2007, 04:46:07 PM
 Aug. 16, 2007


Federal prosecutors have offered Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick a deal that includes a recommendation that he serve at least one year in prison on felony dogfighting conspiracy charges, the Virginian-Pilot reported today.

The fallen NFL star, who has been charged with violating federal dogfighting laws, has been considering a possible plea deal since Wednesday. Vick reportedly has until Friday at 9 a.m. to decide whether he will agree to the deal.
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Vick has delayed his decision, because he is waiting to hear back from the NFL as to how a guilty plea would affect his NFL career, according to a report in the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Vick is the only defendant left in the case that has not yet agreed to a plea deal. Tony Taylor, 34, pleaded guilty and accepted a deal last month. Quantis Phillips, 28, and Purnell Peace, 35, are expected to accept plea deals when they appear in court Friday.

All three men reportedly have agreed to testify against Vick.

Meanwhile, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has said he will wait until the NFL concludes its own investigation into the allegations to decide Vick's fate.

Earlier this week, the NFL denied information posted in a report on Yahoo Sports stating that Vick had been suspended from the upcoming regular season. So far, Vick has been banned only from attending the Falcon's training camp.

While visiting the Detroit Lions Thursday, Goodell also said that Vick and the dogfighting scandal is not "overshadowing the season."

"We're going to do what we always said we were going to do, which is rely on the facts," Goodell said. "If there is some type of a plea agreement, then we will obviously take the time to understand what that plea is, and we'll see how it fits into our personal conduct [policy]."

If Vick does not agree to a deal, prosecutors have said they plan to bring more charges against him and will hand down a superseding indictment later in the month.

Vick could still make a deal with respect to these additional charges, but prosecutors are likely to be less lenient the second time around.

Information from The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: WOOO on August 16, 2007, 04:47:56 PM
he's a baaaaad man...


poor doggies..  >:(
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: MB_722 on August 16, 2007, 05:00:51 PM
Vick has delayed his decision, because he is waiting to hear back from the NFL as to how a guilty plea would affect his NFL career, according to a report in the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Vick is the only defendant left in the case that has not yet agreed to a plea deal. Tony Taylor, 34, pleaded guilty and accepted a deal last month. Quantis Phillips, 28, and Purnell Peace, 35, are expected to accept plea deals when they appear in court Friday.

All three men reportedly have agreed to testify against Vick.

no matter how heinous the crime. It's pathetic his friends/associates ratted him out.

Rats suck.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 16, 2007, 05:24:22 PM
blame whitey, they alwys do
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: chaos on August 16, 2007, 05:26:41 PM
no matter how heinous the crime. It's pathetic his friends/associates ratted him out.

Rats suck.

that's what happens when you associate with those "types"
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: vinnyvee on August 16, 2007, 05:34:52 PM
no matter how heinous the crime. It's pathetic his friends/associates ratted him out.

Rats suck.


So let me see if I understand your thought process here. You and me are long time homies. Tight as ever. You get drunk and tell me you molested some kid and enjoyed the fck out of it. Yup, this is pretty heinous but rats suck in your book so I will keep mum? Fuck you punk!!! I'd drop a mad dime on you just as soon as I finished redecorating your mug w/a meat tenderizer.... >:(
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: Below Me on August 16, 2007, 05:55:10 PM
Vick will deal, he doesn't want to rot in jail.  All the money he is losing is incredible.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 16, 2007, 05:58:06 PM
he needs to fess up like paris hilton and serve the time then get on with his contract.  he got a no nonsense judge
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: WOOO on August 16, 2007, 05:58:22 PM
think about the doggies!!!  >:( ......
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: pumpster on August 16, 2007, 05:59:32 PM
Vick will deal, he doesn't want to rot in jail.  All the money he is losing is incredible.

He'll deal because he's in a box, and will go to jail either way. He has enough money now that he'll be just fine.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: youandme on August 16, 2007, 06:00:41 PM
no matter how heinous the crime. It's pathetic his friends/associates ratted him out.

Rats suck.


You do realize Vick is on record telling the press that it was them and he had no idea and the cops should do what they need to do, but he had no part of it?
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: WOOO on August 16, 2007, 06:01:40 PM
He'll deal because he's in a box, and will go to jail either way. He has enough money now that he'll be just fine.

yeah but he won't enough prison as much as you would... we all know you crave an o-lineman for a roommate... to have and to hold...
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 16, 2007, 06:11:50 PM
yeah but he won't enough prison as much as you would... we all know you crave an o-lineman for a roommate... to have and to hold...
he'll go to club fed and meet drug money launderers, credit card criminals and nice folks like that.  good contacts.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: SirTraps on August 16, 2007, 06:14:31 PM
i think they are going to make an example of Vick, no slap on the wrist-once he pleas they arent going to let up.  This think has too much media attention.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: gordiano on August 16, 2007, 06:19:20 PM
So let me see if I understand your thought process here. You and me are long time homies. Tight as ever. You get drunk and tell me you molested some kid and enjoyed the fck out of it. Yup, this is pretty heinous but rats suck in your book so I will keep mum? Fuck you punk!!! I'd drop a mad dime on you just as soon as I finished redecorating your mug w/a meat tenderizer.... >:(

Exactly. Now I'm all for loyalty, but Wrong Is Wrong.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: MB_722 on August 16, 2007, 06:23:35 PM
So let me see if I understand your thought process here. You and me are long time homies. Tight as ever. You get drunk and tell me you molested some kid and enjoyed the fck out of it. Yup, this is pretty heinous but rats suck in your book so I will keep mum? Fuck you punk!!! I'd drop a mad dime on you just as soon as I finished redecorating your mug w/a meat tenderizer.... >:(

different situation. - I get your point and your motives in doing so. BUT all of these people were involved with it. If you are going to use your example you wouldn't be involved with the act. These people are all looking to get out of the situation they are in and they plead guilty and blamed it on Vick.

I look at them as rats, they got the pins put into them and coughed up it's all Michael Vick. All the while they were involved, they can say whatever the prosecutor wants now.

At first and obviously vick's defence was deniability.  
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: cyp200la on August 16, 2007, 06:23:45 PM
he should go to jail ,or put him in a cage with a couple of dogs.fuck him!!!!
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: MB_722 on August 16, 2007, 06:30:45 PM
Also it isn't as if these people went to police during the time of the dog fighting, the spilled the beans after they got busted. they aren't good samaritans. If these people went before hand then ok but they didn't
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: vinnyvee on August 16, 2007, 06:40:12 PM
different situation. - I get your point and your motives in doing so. BUT all of these people were involved with it. If you are going to use your example you wouldn't be involved with the act. These people are all looking to get out of the situation they are in and they plead guilty and blamed it on Vick.

I look at them as rats, they got the pins put into them and coughed up it's all Michael Vick. All the while they were involved, they can say whatever the prosecutor wants now.

At first and obviously vick's defence was deniability.  

An acceptable rebuttal. But dont say "no matter how heinous the crime" cuz there are some lines you dont cross.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: WOOO on August 16, 2007, 06:41:50 PM
i think they are going to make an example of Vick, no slap on the wrist-once he pleas they arent going to let up.  This think has too much media attention.


it has had the right amount... he killed doggies... they should electrocute him for a while
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 16, 2007, 07:03:02 PM

it has had the right amount... he killed doggies... they should electrocute him for a while
the tidewater area of virginia is dog lover country so he better make a deal cause no jury there is gonna believe that excuse
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: Fulgorre on August 16, 2007, 07:13:16 PM
Had it not been for the white man's money, which supports the hefty salaries of the top NFL pros, Vick would be doing what exactly?  Torturing animals to death and probably young, white females now and then.

It is amusing how great these NFL stars think they are.  How they struggled so hard to pull themselves up out of the ghetto into fame and fortune.  In reality, the entire NFL is funded >90% by nerdy white guys who buy products, tickets, and sport packages on TV in order to see the NFL games on Mon, Thur, Sat, Sunday.  The tax payers pay for the stadiums as well.  The "discipline" required to be a pro in the NFL today consist of man whoring, smoking pot, roids when you can, and playing wannabe gangsta. 

Without these little money makers (white men who provide funding/tax revenue) watching the sport the players would make nothing.  Just like 99% of probodybuilders.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: Archer77 on August 16, 2007, 07:24:24 PM
Had it not been for the white man's money, which supports the hefty salaries of the top NFL pros, Vick would be doing what exactly?  Torturing animals to death and probably young, white females now and then.

It is amusing how great these NFL stars think they are.  How they struggled so hard to pull themselves up out of the ghetto into fame and fortune.  In reality, the entire NFL is funded >90% by nerdy white guys who buy products, tickets, and sport packages on TV in order to see the NFL games on Mon, Thur, Sat, Sunday.  The tax payers pay for the stadiums as well.  The "discipline" required to be a pro in the NFL today consist of man whoring, smoking pot, roids when you can, and playing wannabe gangsta. 

Without these little money makers (white men who provide funding/tax revenue) watching the sport the players would make nothing.  Just like 99% of probodybuilders.

thats the way the whole world works.  Some ghetto thug walking around his neighborhood thinks he bad when the world is controlled and run by bankers and politicians who are so far removed from him that they barely, if they actually do at all, know he exists.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: Fulgorre on August 16, 2007, 07:36:31 PM
thats the way the whole world works.  Some ghetto thug walking around his neighborhood thinks he bad when the world is controlled and run by bankers and politicians who are so far removed from him that they barely, if they actually do at all, know he exists.

Well said my friend.  Not that they can't behave because they can.  Personally, I believe it mainly the ones in America who are the worst due to a variety of factors.  All races have a barbaric side buried within them.  Blacks just have to fight much, much harder to repress the barbarian within themselves.  And those who do overcome it, more power to you.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: MB_722 on August 16, 2007, 07:38:00 PM
anybody watching this season of Hard Knocks with the Chiefs? It's pretty good.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: Special Ed on August 16, 2007, 08:33:42 PM
Those racist Virginia bastards are trying to shove a jail deal down Vick's throat by offering up cash and prizes to his co-defendants (who happen to be the actual dog murderers). If Vick or his legal team can think or see clearly, they'll tell the DA to fuck himself and call the bluff and go to trial, because AIN'T NO WAY a Richmond jury has a chance of reaching a UNANIMOUS VERDICT to CONVICT one of their own.

I think Vick is scum, but making deals with 10 other scumbags to take a knockout shot at a celebrity is even worse.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: kh300 on August 16, 2007, 08:37:59 PM
you can take the man out of the ghetto,, but you cant take the ghetto out of the man
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: chaos on August 16, 2007, 08:43:30 PM
Those racist Virginia bastards are trying to shove a jail deal down Vick's throat by offering up cash and prizes to his co-defendants (who happen to be the actual dog murderers). If Vick or his legal team can think or see clearly, they'll tell the DA to fuck himself and call the bluff and go to trial, because AIN'T NO WAY a Richmond jury has a chance of reaching a UNANIMOUS VERDICT to CONVICT one of their own.

I think Vick is scum, but making deals with 10 other scumbags to take a knockout shot at a celebrity is even worse.
::) WWWAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: pumpster on August 16, 2007, 08:47:36 PM
Those racist Virginia bastards are trying to shove a jail deal down Vick's throat by offering up cash and prizes to his co-defendants (who happen to be the actual dog murderers). If Vick or his legal team can think or see clearly, they'll tell the DA to fuck himself and call the bluff and go to trial, because AIN'T NO WAY a Richmond jury has a chance of reaching a UNANIMOUS VERDICT to CONVICT one of their own.

I think Vick is scum, but making deals with 10 other scumbags to take a knockout shot at a celebrity is even worse.

Classic getbig keyboard warrior analysis
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: sgt. d on August 16, 2007, 08:48:59 PM
::) WWWAAAAAAAAAA

ok chaos ::)
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: sgt. d on August 16, 2007, 08:50:10 PM
Classic getbig keyboard warrior analysis

Are you still getting huge using the bowflex power system? You must be an animal by now
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: sgt. d on August 16, 2007, 08:54:53 PM
Just seen on espn that vick might be taking the plea deal.  ::)

anybody watching this season of Hard Knocks with the Chiefs? It's pretty good.

Nope but be on the lookout for the Titans. Although the salary has us letting many players go we are going to win it all. Remember '99 but this time we are going to get the job done. 8)
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: chaos on August 16, 2007, 08:58:06 PM
ok chaos ::)
ok Sean ::)
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: pumpster on August 16, 2007, 08:58:59 PM
Are you still getting huge using the bowflex power system? You must be an animal by now

Why are you trying to sell me yours?
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: G o a t b o y on August 16, 2007, 09:00:53 PM
Those racist Virginia bastards are trying to shove a jail deal down Vick's throat by offering up cash and prizes to his co-defendants (who happen to be the actual dog murderers). If Vick or his legal team can think or see clearly, they'll tell the DA to fuck himself and call the bluff and go to trial, because AIN'T NO WAY a Richmond jury has a chance of reaching a UNANIMOUS VERDICT to CONVICT one of their own.

I think Vick is scum, but making deals with 10 other scumbags to take a knockout shot at a celebrity is even worse.


I wouldn't take you as my defense attorney, Jason.  He's playing the motherfuccking lottery if he takes this to trial.  One year is absolutely nothing.  He gets out, he's still an a-list quarterback skills-wise, some down-on-their-luck team will take him.  Best case:  in 5 years, nobody even remembers this.

Hell, even if he's innocent (which he's not), this is a sweethart deal.  He'll be treated like royalty for the measly 12 months he's in "club fed".  ::)
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: youandme on August 16, 2007, 09:07:00 PM
we will know by 9 am tommorow
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: Special Ed on August 16, 2007, 09:07:19 PM

I wouldn't take you as my defense attorney, Jason.  He's playing the motherfuccking lottery if he takes this to trial.  One year is absolutely nothing.  He gets out, he's still an a-list quarterback skills-wise, some down-on-their-luck team will take him.  Best case:  in 5 years, nobody even remembers this.

Hell, even if he's innocent (which he's not), this is a sweethart deal.  He'll be treated like royalty for the measly 12 months he's in "club fed".  ::)
That's okay "Goatboy". I wouldn't take you as a client. For real, has anyone on this planet ever served more than 3 months for a dogfighting charge? 2 months? I doubt it. This shit goes on everyday in the Confederacy and no one has ever cared. I love dogs but let's be real: Every day a million cows are shot in the head or are hung upside down by one leg to have their throats slit so we can eat a steak. We're all a bunch of hypocrites!
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: chaos on August 16, 2007, 09:11:46 PM
That's okay "Goatboy". I wouldn't take you as a client. For real, has anyone on this planet ever served more than 3 months for a dogfighting charge? 2 months? I doubt it. This shit goes on everyday in the Confederacy and no one has ever cared. I love dogs but let's be real: Every day a million cows are shot in the head or are hung upside down by one leg to have their throats slit so we can eat a steak. We're all a bunch of hypocrites!
so did Vick eat the dog meat after the fight?
Aren't you supposedly some kind of laywer or something? You're compared slaughter for food to fighting dogs for sport?




LAME.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: Special Ed on August 16, 2007, 09:17:23 PM
so did Vick eat the dog meat after the fight?
Aren't you supposedly some kind of laywer or something? You're compared slaughter for food to fighting dogs for sport?
LAME.
By your argument, if Vick did eat the dog meat, it'd be okay. Nice logic there.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: G o a t b o y on August 16, 2007, 09:18:28 PM
That's okay "Goatboy". I wouldn't take you as a client. For real, has anyone on this planet ever served more than 3 months for a dogfighting charge? 2 months? I doubt it.


Okay, maybe my post was a bit harsh, but seriously...   you can't ignore the PR angle here.  80% of Americans want this guy's head on a platter.  He's being offered a lifeline - he should take it.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: MB_722 on August 16, 2007, 09:25:24 PM

you can't ignore the PR angle here.  80% of Americans want this guy's head on a platter. 

thats just another thing wrong with this whole situation.

Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: G o a t b o y on August 16, 2007, 09:30:35 PM
thats just another thing wrong with this whole situation.



I'm not arguing right or wrong...  I'm arguing reality.


If it were strictly up to me, I agree w Special Ed...   we're talking about animals, just like the kind we eat every day.  They are nothing compared to a man's freedom. But unfortunately we live in a world full of sentimental low-IQ (from my perspective) numskulls. 
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: chaos on August 16, 2007, 09:32:52 PM
By your argument, if Vick did eat the dog meat, it'd be okay. Nice logic there.
:-\ never said it was OK, I said you are comparing two completely different situations. for a lawyer you sure are dumb. We as people slaughter and consume beef/pork/meat, we don't train cows to kill each other then place bets on it. Then take the losing cow and hang it by it's neck and beat it to death. These animals are slaughtered for a reason, food. These dogs were murdered for sport, do you see the difference, genius?


no wonder you aren't funny anymore, you've been dumbing yourself down to deal with the scum you set free.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: Croatch on August 16, 2007, 09:36:20 PM
Someone should put him in jail on stupidity alone.  You're a fucking NFL starting quarterback and make a ton of money, yet you're screwing around with underground dog fights?
What a dumb ghetto rat.  Some people are simply unintelligent.  People with this wealth and IQ level, honestly frighten me.  Don't even get me started on the rap community. ::)
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: Special Ed on August 16, 2007, 10:02:26 PM
:-\ never said it was OK, I said you are comparing two completely different situations. for a lawyer you sure are dumb. We as people slaughter and consume beef/pork/meat, we don't train cows to kill each other then place bets on it. Then take the losing cow and hang it by it's neck and beat it to death. These animals are slaughtered for a reason, food. These dogs were murdered for sport, do you see the difference, genius?


no wonder you aren't funny anymore, you've been dumbing yourself down to deal with the scum you set free.
I don't understand a thing you said. Could you dumb that down for me?
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: sgt. d on August 16, 2007, 11:13:26 PM
Someone should put him in jail on stupidity alone.  You're a fucking NFL starting quarterback and make a ton of money, yet you're screwing around with underground dog fights?
What a dumb ghetto rat.  Some people are simply unintelligent.  People with this wealth and IQ level, honestly frighten me.  Don't even get me started on the rap community. ::)


Who cares what you think. You still use steroids but deny it. You are pathetic.
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 17, 2007, 04:48:29 AM
he's gonna take the plea, serve the time at club fed resume playing and become a model citizen.  it's not a difficult decision.  what he's gonna claim innocence, have tons evidence against him plus 5 witnesses who have plead guilty to a jury of common folks?  sorry no jury is buying the BET defense.  and what IS his defense, i'm making so much money i didnt know there was a RICO going on?  he needs to STFU and do the time. 
Title: Re: Michael Vick is going to the can
Post by: Option D on August 17, 2007, 04:57:13 AM
So let me see if I understand your thought process here. You and me are long time homies. Tight as ever. You get drunk and tell me you molested some kid and enjoyed the fck out of it. Yup, this is pretty heinous but rats suck in your book so I will keep mum? Fuck you punk!!! I'd drop a mad dime on you just as soon as I finished redecorating your mug w/a meat tenderizer.... >:(
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Different thing...All these eggplants benefitted out of it. It was a group thing