When growth, insulin, igf1 etc got into it.
When growth, insulin, igf1 etc got into it.1989 ? is that the year ? :-[
1989 ? is that the year ? :-[
(what a shameful topic)
1980BBDG didn't die. The want and need to live and train for healthy reasons did.
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BBDG didn't die. The want and need to live and train for healthy reasons did.
bodybuilding is bigger than ever, i cant wait for the sport to go to the next level of freakish mass
pro bodybuilders need to form an alliance with vets and scientists and start using the next inventions in steroids and up the dosage and stop playing it safe
they need to have more of that kill or be killed attitude that wrestlers have and stop being a bunch of pussies
How about the day "Billy Guns" got Blue stars .... :-[
How about the day "Billy Guns" got Blue stars .... :-[
That marked the death of the Blue stars ;)
at the latest when Yates got to be Mr. O.Agreed.
For fuck sake i know Getbig as a whole gets a lil delusional sometimes, but Jayjonna or however its spelled, how in the name of god had bodybuilding died? Are there less tickets being sold? Less magazines being sold? Less competitors? More bb's dying? Less competitions? More skinny people walking around? What?
Bodybuilding isn't dying, you're just realizing you're a skinny bitch with no place in bbing.
When it became more about being a drug user than being a hard trainer and good dieter was when bodybuilding died you numb nuts. Now get the fuck off my thread you tiny tit.
So have you ever seen one of the bb training videos? They work out pretty hard.. who doesnt. Theres lazy people in every sport,and there were lazies back in the old days too. And yknow what, they used a load of drugs back then too, theres just new drugs now. And its still about eating right, you think the mr olympia eats at the King every night? You still haven't answered my question your photoshopped little bitch.hahahahah ill pass on the 'spooning'
As far as diet goes...when they diet down..you think thats all drugs?? Look at the 80s and 90s, and think about the extreme abuse of dihuretics(sp?), thats what really kills bb's, yet for some reason bodybuilding wasn't dead then?
So "Jae", you want a spoon?
1993. Dorian took bodybuilding as far as it could go and looked as good as a human male is ever going to look - but from 94 it, [and he], became a disgusting, bloated, insulin addled joke. Ronnie made things even worse. Words can't describe the abomination that is Cutler.
at the latest when Yates got to be Mr. O.
1993. Dorian took bodybuilding as far as it could go and looked as good as a human male is ever going to look - but from 94 it, [and he], became a disgusting, bloated, insulin addled joke. Ronnie made things even worse. Words can't describe the abomination that is Cutler.
I agree about the 94 part. That was a total disgrace
When growth, insulin, igf1 etc got into it.
Are there less tickets being sold? Less magazines being sold? Less competitors? More bb's dying? Less competitions? More skinny people walking around? What?
Bodybuilding isn't dying, you're just realizing you're a skinny bitch with no place in bbing.
In the 80's the Mr. O was on network television. It was then relegated to cable. Now, there isn't a single bodybuilding competition broadcast on television. There also used to be bodybuilding training show on ESPN, as well as one on MSG which was hosted by Tom Terwilliger. Those have disappeared.
Back in the day, I went to a Night of Champions show in the Beacon Theatre, which seats about 4K. The evening show was sold out. Now, that same event is held in a 1000 seat venue.
Bodybuilding isn't dead, but there's no denying that it has declined in popularity in recent times.
agreed.
94 was bad because it set the precedence that the second place competitor can dominate the first place competitor and still lose.. :-\
lmfao dominate
Quote Flex Dec 1995
" In 1994 , he ( Dorian ) was admittedly not at his best , but he was still the best bodybuilder onstage that day. No one not even runner-up Shawn Ray,disagreed with that stance on the night of Yates' threepeat. "
quote Shawn Ray Flex Jan 1995 " Tonight I feel I got what I deserved "
go away with your nonsense , dominate Ha !!
I love how you pick my post to comment on, but are too much of a fucking coward to do the same with anyone else who posts the same thing..
::)
what a pussy. :-\
lmfao dominate
Quote Flex Dec 1995
" In 1994 , he ( Dorian ) was admittedly not at his best , but he was still the best bodybuilder onstage that day. No one not even runner-up Shawn Ray,disagreed with that stance on the night of Yates' threepeat. "
quote Shawn Ray Flex Jan 1995 " Tonight I feel I got what I deserved "
go away with your nonsense , dominate Ha !!
In the 80's the Mr. O was on network television. It was then relegated to cable. Now, there isn't a single bodybuilding competition broadcast on television. There also used to be bodybuilding training show on ESPN, as well as one on MSG which was hosted by Tom Terwilliger. Those have disappeared.
Back in the day, I went to a Night of Champions show in the Beacon Theatre, which seats about 4K. The evening show was sold out. Now, that same event is held in a 1000 seat venue.
Bodybuilding isn't dead, but there's no denying that it has declined in popularity in recent times.
It's called modesty..
Sean was being humble.
When Tom Prince nearly died for you bitches.He has some insane hams
Even though he was on everything and nailed his coffin with excessiveness.
It's called modesty..
Sean was being humble.
Meanwhile, men's amateur bodybuilding has thrived since then.
"Thrived since then"? Where? how?
After Yates won his first Olympia, BBing took a complete nosedive, quality of physiques started going down, media coverage became almost non-existant, G4P became an acceptable open business with no repercussion on the violated written rules, mainstream now thinks that BBing is a circus side show for steriod abusers....geez dude, I could keep going if I wanted but I might get carpeltunnel from all the typing I would have to do~!
1993. Dorian took bodybuilding as far as it could go and looked as good as a human male is ever going to look - but from 94 it, [and he], became a disgusting, bloated, insulin addled joke. Ronnie made things even worse. Words can't describe the abomination that is Cutler.
So in 93 BB was great, and in 94 it was 'disgusting, bloated'.. that's one comprehensive and mature overview. Are you sure it literally flipped 100% in one year?
The quality of physiques were at their highest at Yates reign , the 90s is the pinnacle of conditioned mass , truth be told once Coleman took over soon after all the good physiques of the 90s retired and Ronnie dominated past their prime guys Yates dominated , and who was Ronnie's competition? Dexter Jackson and Cutler lol give me a break .
I agree on some this, but Yates set the standard for the "size" game, destended stomachs and lack of symmetry, since Yates, competitors had to start stepping it up a notch as far as size goes and almost completly disreguarding symmetry, how many times did Shawn get screwed against Yates?
it has never "lived"?I agree, bbing has never been mainstream, always been a cult. That is what makes it great it isnt like anything else
has allways been a subculture and general public has never understood it or never will...
get over it ;D
Yates could carry lots of size and still look great for it , all the guys who tried to play catch-up went past their abilities to carry mass and Shawn NEVER got screwed he was never going to be Mr Olympia , he cried he got screwed with Haney , Yates and Ronnie , he's 5'7" and 205 pounds the 70s were over his window of opportunity to become Mr Olympia died when Samir lost to Haney
at the latest when Yates got to be Mr. O.
I agree, bbing has never been mainstream, always been a cult. That is what makes it great it isnt like anything else
Sorry dude, but BBing is about size, symmetry and conditioning and having little to no flaws, Yates was huge and got hard as hell but toward the last years of his career, he got caught up on being bigger and bigger and lost his sharpness and almost any straiation he might have had before, Shawn had all of that and there are pics floating of him completly owning Yates........dude, get off the size thing, thats not all of what BBing should be about!
Sorry dude, but BBing is about size, symmetry and conditioning and having little to no flaws, Yates was huge and got hard as hell but toward the last years of his career, he got caught up on being bigger and bigger and lost his sharpness and almost any straiation he might have had before, Shawn had all of that and there are pics floating of him completly owning Yates........dude, get off the size thing, thats not all of what BBing should be about!
The irony of you telling me to get off the size thing , I ( especially me ) know its not all about size but you're wrong Yates typically stayed between 257-265 pounds his Olympia career whole career , so he roughly stayed around the same weight give or take 10 pounds , with the exception of 1992 he was 242 pounds and very depleted and conditioning was never an issue for Dorian not even at his biggest which was 1997 he was still bone dry and rock hard his problems weren't to much size and conditioning it was torn muscles and he had the same striations in 91 and in 97
I know its not about size and it shouldn't be about size but I'm only commenting on what is not what should be , and you look at history the last Mr Olympia around 200 pounds was Samir Bannout in 1983 , the trend was going up starting with Haney , then Yates and Ronnie . Shawn was 5'7" and weighed 205 pounds he was competing in the time of the giants in 1994 which some harp on as Shawn's Olympia it wasn't even close , Dorian was 262 pounds Vs Shawn's 205 pounds thats almost a 60 pound muscle advantage he wasn't compensating for that
The same with Lee Labrada Vs Haney it wasn't a small mans game anymore , Shawn would have flourished in the 1970s very early 1980s he was born for the wrong era , 1994 Mr Olympia wasn't a contest on paper or off Shawn Ray was very lucky to place second place , he only beat Levrone by virtue of a better posing routine not by virtue of his physique because after the pre-judging Shawn was trailing Kevin for second place ( a distant second I might add ) 1994 was a close contest after all , close between second and third , Dorian was clearly ahead of the two , and this is a quote from Shawn post-contest
Flex magazine January 1995 Shawn Ray
Dorian was a bigger version of what he's been. I'm not a fan in the sense that his physique is something I aspire to attain. Dorian is in his own class and in his own little world. For that reason, there's nobody they can compare like-to-like with Dorian. They can only bring forward a different package.
( 1994 Mr Olympia ) Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "
NarcissisticDeity is better than Hulkster.
1993. Dorian took bodybuilding as far as it could go and looked as good as a human male is ever going to look - but from 94 it, [and he], became a disgusting, bloated, insulin addled joke.
1994 was a low point for bodybuilding. Dorian was missing a biceps, his conditioning was off and the judges still gave him the win.
That set an unfortunate precedent.
2006 was another low point. Cutler simply doesn't have a Mr. Olympia caliber physique. His win was a huge step backwards.
Bodybuilding died in 1994
Noooobody knows................the troubles I've seen :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Bodybuilding died in 1994
Noooobody knows................the troubles I've seen :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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REALITY CHECK : Shawn/Sgtd is now 5-6 Fat and Bald
Hope this helps.
Flex magazine January 1995 Shawn Ray
Dorian was a bigger version of what he's been. I'm not a fan in the sense that his physique is something I aspire to attain. Dorian is in his own class and in his own little world. For that reason, there's nobody they can compare like-to-like with Dorian. They can only bring forward a different package.
( 1994 Mr Olympia ) Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "
Sure it did ::)
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um, I didn't know I was posting on a board about a dead subject. thanks for the update.
Flex magazine January 1995 Shawn Ray
Dorian was a bigger version of what he's been. I'm not a fan in the sense that his physique is something I aspire to attain. Dorian is in his own class and in his own little world. For that reason, there's nobody they can compare like-to-like with Dorian. They can only bring forward a different package.
( 1994 Mr Olympia ) Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "
Sure it did ::)
Dorian looks like shit. You really think Shawn was telling the truth. You believe everything you read in flex dontya? ::) Shawn should have been first. Only Dorian thought he should have won. ND why can't you understand that Dorian looks like trash.? Why? ???
ND why can't you understand that Dorian looks like trash.? Why?
Bodybuilding was hugely popular when Steve Reeves portrayed Hercules in movies in 1959 and 1960. Bodybuilding died when everyone 'knew' they used drugs. Women's bodybuilding died when they started to look like blokes.
Bodybuilding was hugely popular when Steve Reeves portrayed Hercules in movies in 1959 and 1960. Bodybuilding died when everyone 'knew' they used drugs. Women's bodybuilding died when they started to look like blokes.i agree with Vince on this
because he is a complete and total idiot.
just see the truce thread for 1300 pages of proof. :-\
1994:
Bodybuilding died when everyone 'knew' they used drugs.[/color]
because he is a complete and total idiot.
just see the truce thread for 1300 pages of proof. :-\
1994:
Right.
Dorian shouldn't even have been placed < 10 in 1994 (an 1996)
He fad the biggest gut of all competitors (+ no arms, no legs, ... nothing):
Again you post a single picture of a relaxed Yates as some sort of proof that supports your claim and it only highlights your ignorance , again from an aesthetics standpoint Yates looks like garbage , however thats NOT why he won , he won because he was the biggest , densest and best conditioned athlete period , and just see the truce thread for be correcting your ignorance for 1300 pages ;)
the 1994 Mr Olympia was no contest
Right.
Dorian shouldn't even have been placed < 10 in 1994 (an 1996)
He fad the biggest gut of all competitors (+ no arms, no legs, ... nothing):
agreed.
notice how ND only posts pics of dorian's back, which in 1994 wasn't even the best in the contest (at least as far as the back double bi goes). It was still pretty good though.
from the front side, dorian was an abomination in 1994..arms and legs just.. :-\
just look at this: :-\