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Title: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Sami The Black-smith on September 20, 2007, 04:31:17 PM
 looking at the latest shows of the IFBB and i asked my self IS IT TOUGH to be with these guys :-\ 
to be honest, is it ME becoming that GOOD, or is it some top PROs started to fade and look not that good any more ( i guess Both) ;D

 after D. Henry placing at the last show i knew IFBB started to take the right way on the average guys like me and judging fairly......so in a moment it came to my mind and thoughts PDI or IFBB....?!  i wish some guys not to take it wrong and think that i am aiming for IFBB ;D  i am committed to PDI the whole 2007 and i am going no where ;)

 Pics been taken 3days ago:

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/musclemania2005/M2.jpg)

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/musclemania2005/M3.jpg)

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/musclemania2005/M1.jpg)
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: affy on September 20, 2007, 04:35:59 PM
you are a top 5 contender at the arnold

and a potential top 5 in the olympia once you step up your game just a bit
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Monster81 on September 20, 2007, 04:39:28 PM
Just because David Henry is short u call him Average?, well Henry worked that hard to be there
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on September 20, 2007, 04:41:13 PM
Just because David Henry is short u call him Average?, well Henry worked that hard to be there

Not as hard as some of us that are 6' have to work!
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Sami The Black-smith on September 20, 2007, 04:45:47 PM
Just because David Henry is short u call him Average?, well Henry worked that hard to be there

 Hey Bro.. take it easy.. ;D  i meant Average of being NOT THAT big like the rest of the guys in the IFBB...!!  its just the SIZE talk bro... David Henry is one of the best, but i thought the time of LEE LABRADA, SHAWN RAY, RICH GASBARI etc is GONE and the past 10 years most the top bodybuilders are over 240 - 280  there is no more room for 200 -220 even DEXTER started playing the SIZE game which is started to bring him down with mid section

Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on September 20, 2007, 04:47:39 PM
looking at the latest shows of the IFBB and i asked my self IS IT TOUGH to be with these guys :-\ 
to be honest, is it ME becoming that GOOD, or is it some top PROs started to fade and look not that good any more ( i guess Both) ;D

 after D. Henry placing at the last show i knew IFBB started to take the right way on the average guys like me and judging fairly......so in a moment it came to my mind and thoughts PDI or IFBB....?!  i wish some guys not to take it wrong and think that i am aiming for IFBB ;D  i am committed to PDI the whole 2007 and i am going no where ;)

 Pics been taken 3days ago:

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/musclemania2005/M2.jpg)

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/musclemania2005/M3.jpg)

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/musclemania2005/M1.jpg)


go wherever the money is the best. but PDI seems to have a problem....no competitions  ;D........sure IFBB is a perverted corrupt organization but they atleast stage competitions...

but in the end, its all about money. so follow the dollars.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: davidpaul on September 20, 2007, 04:53:16 PM
Incredible build
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Monster81 on September 20, 2007, 04:54:01 PM
Hey Bro.. take it easy.. ;D  i meant Average of being NOT THAT big like the rest of the guys in the IFBB...!!  its just the SIZE talk bro... David Henry is one of the best, but i thought the time of LEE LABRADA, SHAWN RAY, RICH GASBARI etc is GONE and the past 10 years most the top bodybuilders are over 240 - 280  there is no more room for 200 -220 even DEXTER started playing the SIZE game which is started to bring him down with mid section


;D
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Andre Nickatina on September 20, 2007, 05:08:45 PM
Nowhere near top 5 olympia. top 6 in $10,000 shows though.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: sgt. d on September 20, 2007, 05:14:17 PM
Nowhere near top 5 olympia. top 6 in $10,000 shows though.

lol your mean
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Monster81 on September 20, 2007, 05:19:13 PM
lol your mean
Andre Nikatina stated a fact.
But a $10,000 IFBB show, is in a much higher class than top PDI shows :)
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: dknole on September 20, 2007, 05:33:58 PM
Sami - there are way too many Burberry items in your place....what are you lifting? lol
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: affy on September 20, 2007, 05:51:49 PM
Nowhere near top 5 olympia. top 6 in $10,000 shows though.

not at the olympia YET..but if silvio could crack the top 5 at the arnold last year..i dont see why sami can't
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Dballn247 on September 20, 2007, 05:55:40 PM
IFBB for sure, you would place quite well and yes win some of the 10K shows.  Could have won the Atlantic City for sure.  People showed up 95%.  The only person that was really dry was Hide, but of course he was overlooked because he's not well known enough.

Sami, we've discussed this before.  Go and get some of that $$$ man.  Plus I think you'll be able to pick up some more sponsorship dollars and get way more exposure.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Stavios on September 20, 2007, 05:57:05 PM
SAMI, stop the fucking bullshit and go compete against real men in the IFBB

 8)
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: knny187 on September 20, 2007, 06:03:33 PM
Sami...how old are you?
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Monster81 on September 20, 2007, 06:19:39 PM
not at the olympia YET..but if silvio could crack the top 5 at the arnold last year..i dont see why sami can't
we still hvent seen Sami next to Silvio
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 20, 2007, 06:23:13 PM
Well as it stands, posing inyour underwear in an obsolete room for the Internet is not the way to go about getting your career in the right direction.
Man up, make a stand and do what you gotta do.
It's not rocket science that you'll be competing against any door knob that has an entry fee and posing trucks when you hit the PDI Stage. Meaning if you win, who do beat and what does it mean?
Enjoy "thinking" about what to do while others like David Henry reap the benefits of his hard work being compare to the elite and posing on the biggest bodybuilding platform there is.
Sure beats posing alone in a dimmly light room :-\
Hope this helps steer you in the right direction :P
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 20, 2007, 06:25:41 PM
Is the PDI even having their shows this year?  Didn't Wayne pretty much say he wasn't doing them, and offered the venues to anyone who wanted to promote the shows?


The PDI is DOA.  Join the IFBB.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: emn1964 on September 20, 2007, 06:36:15 PM
Well as it stands, posing inyour underwear in an obsolete room for the Internet is not the way to go about getting your career in the right direction.
Man up, make a stand and do what you gotta do.
It's not rocket science that you'll be competing against any door knob that has an entry fee and posing trucks when you hit the PDI Stage. Meaning if you win, who do beat and what does it mean?
Enjoy "thinking" about what to do while others like David Henry reap the benefits of his hard work being compare to the elite and posing on the biggest bodybuilding platform there is.
Sure beats posing alone in a dimmly light room :-\
Hope this helps steer you in the right direction :P

Shawn, it doesn't matter if he does point himself in the direction of the IFBB.  The IFBB will not let him in and if they do, Joe and Ben will not allow him to place and earn.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Monster81 on September 20, 2007, 06:37:05 PM
An IFBB Pro Card aint a walk in the park, he will have to qualify for it first
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: myt1 on September 20, 2007, 06:40:35 PM
Well as it stands, posing inyour underwear in an obsolete room for the Internet is not the way to go about getting your career in the right direction.
Man up, make a stand and do what you gotta do.
It's not rocket science that you'll be competing against any door knob that has an entry fee and posing trucks when you hit the PDI Stage. Meaning if you win, who do beat and what does it mean?
Enjoy "thinking" about what to do while others like David Henry reap the benefits of his hard work being compare to the elite and posing on the biggest bodybuilding platform there is.
Sure beats posing alone in a dimmly light room :-\
Hope this helps steer you in the right direction :P

1st time I've agreed with you.  Great post  8)

Did I really just type that? :P
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Tamer Razor on September 20, 2007, 06:45:48 PM
No one can clearly asses how good a bodybuilder is until he step in stage with some REAL competition.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on September 20, 2007, 06:46:59 PM
SAMI, stop the fucking bullshit and go compete against real men in the IFBB

 8)
word
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: CQ on September 20, 2007, 07:08:35 PM
An IFBB Pro Card aint a walk in the park, he will have to qualify for it first

True. Especially with the testing concerns

I think Sami has an oustanding physique, but plz recall the impact of the fact that much of the IFBB international amateur division does drug test. Many times, you need to pass comprehensive drug testing to get pro status, and they are even known to do random tests through the year. This is one thing that often can hold back some of the of the best ppl internationally from gaining IFBB pro status....
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: sgt. d on September 20, 2007, 07:45:51 PM
No one can clearly asses how good a bodybuilder is until he step in stage with some REAL competition.

What do you mean? Jack London is real competition.  ???
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 20, 2007, 07:46:40 PM
True. Especially with the testing concerns

I think Sami has an oustanding physique, but plz recall the impact of the fact that much of the IFBB international amateur division does drug test. Many times, you need to pass comprehensive drug testing to get pro status, and they are even known to do random tests through the year. This is one thing that often can hold back some of the of the best ppl internationally from gaining IFBB pro status....



Manion can give a card to whoever he wants.  Without Lee and Sami, the "PDI" would be even more of a joke than it already is.  May as well hammer the final nail in the coffin.  ;)
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?! OR TROY MOORE
Post by: tfalce on September 20, 2007, 07:51:38 PM
Where r u TROY?
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: ja351 on September 20, 2007, 08:32:50 PM
Well as it stands, posing inyour underwear in an obsolete room for the Internet is not the way to go about getting your career in the right direction.

Do you feel that he needs to add some grapefruit to start heading in the right direction of the IFBB?
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: gordiano on September 20, 2007, 08:36:01 PM
IFBB or PDI?


Hmm.....


Stick with Musclegallery......at least they somewhat compensate you for stripping for gays...
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Captain Slin on September 20, 2007, 08:36:52 PM
IFBB sami. IFBB all the way. compete against real people and get into the side where you can make some actual money.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Hedgehog on September 20, 2007, 08:40:20 PM
True. Especially with the testing concerns

I think Sami has an oustanding physique, but plz recall the impact of the fact that much of the IFBB international amateur division does drug test. Many times, you need to pass comprehensive drug testing to get pro status, and they are even known to do random tests through the year. This is one thing that often can hold back some of the of the best ppl internationally from gaining IFBB pro status....


And they don't drug test the NPC...
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: biceps on September 20, 2007, 08:43:52 PM
Is the PDI even having their shows this year?  Didn't Wayne pretty much say he wasn't doing them, and offered the venues to anyone who wanted to promote the shows?


The PDI is DOA.  Join the IFBB.

Wayne was bed for the IFBB, I was very surprised about Lee competing in the PDI, Wayne FTU up  Lee many time with the pleasing in IFBB shows.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Sami The Black-smith on September 20, 2007, 09:37:15 PM
Well as it stands, posing inyour underwear in an obsolete room for the Internet is not the way to go about getting your career in the right direction.
Man up, make a stand and do what you gotta do.
It's not rocket science that you'll be competing against any door knob that has an entry fee and posing trucks when you hit the PDI Stage. Meaning if you win, who do beat and what does it mean?
Enjoy "thinking" about what to do while others like David Henry reap the benefits of his hard work being compare to the elite and posing on the biggest bodybuilding platform there is.
Sure beats posing alone in a dimmly light room :-\
Hope this helps steer you in the right direction :P

  THANKS S. Ray ;)

Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: dzulboy on September 20, 2007, 09:54:26 PM
And they don't drug test the NPC...

the ifbb internatial  (worlds) is drug tested as far as i know 
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Special Ed on September 20, 2007, 10:41:16 PM
Well as it stands, posing inyour underwear in an obsolete room for the Internet is not the way to go about getting your career in the right direction.
Man up, make a stand and do what you gotta do.
It's not rocket science that you'll be competing against any door knob that has an entry fee and posing trucks when you hit the PDI Stage. Meaning if you win, who do beat and what does it mean?
It means a new Escalade, new 22s, a blackberry and $30,000 in the bank, as opposed to a net loss and a 5-page spread in Muscular Detention Facility. Just ask Chris Cormier.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: rudylrichards on September 20, 2007, 11:07:09 PM
IFBB for sure, you would place quite well and yes win some of the 10K shows.  Could have won the Atlantic City for sure.  People showed up 95%.  The only person that was really dry was Hide, but of course he was overlooked because he's not well known enough.

Sami, we've discussed this before.  Go and get some of that $$$ man.  Plus I think you'll be able to pick up some more sponsorship dollars and get way more exposure.
???.  If sammy did the AC he'd have been btwn 6th and 9th.  No way he'd beat Craig or anyone infront of him.  He'd have a hard time beating Quicy.  From the front, it's close but back and hamstrings are Quincys' strenght and Samis' weakness.  Take a 6'8 guy by himself at a distance, he's gonna look like a giant, put him next to a bunch of NBA centers, he's gonna look short.  All the pics I've seen of Sami are by himself or next to bbers who don't belong on a pro stage.  Put him next to Craig or any of the guys in the top 5, different story. 

Sami, i'm sure you'll read this, I mean no disrespect to you.  I'm sure you believe differently, that's what being a competitor's about.  I hope you get the chance to compete against IFBB guys and prove it one way or the other if thats what you really want. Otherwise, you're like the 2nd string QB, very popular, people talking about how good you are, will be, could be, etc, most of the times it's simply because you're not in the game.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: pushinweight on September 20, 2007, 11:19:21 PM
Well as it stands, posing inyour underwear in an obsolete room for the Internet is not the way to go about getting your career in the right direction.
Man up, make a stand and do what you gotta do.
It's not rocket science that you'll be competing against any door knob that has an entry fee and posing trucks when you hit the PDI Stage. Meaning if you win, who do beat and what does it mean? 
Enjoy "thinking" about what to do while others like David Henry reap the benefits of his hard work being compare to the elite and posing on the biggest bodybuilding platform there is.
Sure beats posing alone in a dimmly light room :-\
Hope this helps steer you in the right direction :P

A couple things; as good as Sami is and he definitely looks better than 90% of the IFBB pros even if he isn't a mass monster, they will never let him win and at the most he might place in the money in a couple shows.  To date Sami in one year with the PDI has made more prize money than 99% of the current IFBB pros have in their career.   He should stick it out and see what happens with the PDI till he decides to quit.  While most IFBB pros have no money and lose money competing it appears Sami has done pretty well with an organization that wasn't supposed to put on any shows.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 20, 2007, 11:37:16 PM
you're like the 2nd string QB, very popular, people talking about how good you are, will be, could be, etc, most of the times it's simply because you're not in the game.


That's a pretty good analogy.  ;D
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 20, 2007, 11:39:01 PM
Sami has done pretty well with an organization that wasn't supposed to put on any shows.


Yeah, but it's questionable whether they will be putting on any more.  :-\
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Rodney St. Cloud on September 21, 2007, 12:24:42 AM
Hey whats up Sami looking good cant wait until we get to norway!!!
Pics look good here are some pics. The quality is not that great because its a still image from a camcorder.
(http://www.rodneystcloud.com/imagespreview/RodneyStCloudFitness_Pic2)
(http://www.rodneystcloud.com/imagespreview/RodneyStCloudFitness_Pic3)
(http://www.rodneystcloud.com/imagespreview/RodneyStCloudFitness_Pic5)
(http://www.rodneystcloud.com/imagespreview/RodneyStCloudFitness_Pic6)

I will get some better pics as we get closer to the show.

Train Hard!!!
Rodney St. Cloud

Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Special Ed on September 21, 2007, 12:39:42 AM
Rodney,

Are you still with the FDNY?
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: timfogarty on September 21, 2007, 12:50:30 AM
the ifbb internatial  (worlds) is drug tested as far as i know 

there are many recent examples of top bodybuilders being given pro cards without having to qualify in IFBB amateur events

Sergei Ogorodnikov (http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Ogorodnikov,+Sergei), Marcos Chacón (http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Chac%F3n,+Marcos), Silvio Samuel Saviour (http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Samuel+Saviour,+Silvio)
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 21, 2007, 02:34:06 AM
True. Especially with the testing concerns

I think Sami has an oustanding physique, but plz recall the impact of the fact that much of the IFBB international amateur division does drug test. Many times, you need to pass comprehensive drug testing to get pro status, and they are even known to do random tests through the year. This is one thing that often can hold back some of the of the best ppl internationally from gaining IFBB pro status....

STFU  with your testing shit. U are an utter and complete moron when it comes to drugs by your own admission. stop talking like u know cause u don't. Even a doorknob such as yourself passed drugtests so stop yapping about that crap. Jesus  ::)
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: davidpaul on September 21, 2007, 02:57:59 AM
Sami looking sick
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Bigger Business on September 21, 2007, 03:03:24 AM
STFU  with your testing shit. U are an utter and complete moron when it comes to drugs by your own admission. stop talking like u know cause u don't. Even a doorknob such as yourself passed drugtests so stop yapping about that crap. Jesus  ::)

solid addition to the thread
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: davidpaul on September 21, 2007, 03:09:10 AM
solid addition to the thread

Ditto
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 21, 2007, 03:26:12 AM
I had to she fucking annoys me. back to the subj.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Sami The Black-smith on September 21, 2007, 03:38:09 AM
Hey whats up Sami looking good cant wait until we get to norway!!!
Pics look good here are some pics. The quality is not that great because its a still image from a camcorder.
I will get some better pics as we get closer to the show.

Train Hard!!!
Rodney St. Cloud

  Hey Rodney.. looking great, better size than last year and already i can see Fibers ;)  it will be cool show and am sure we gonna have fun like last year ;D

  keep up the good work bro and see u in 20days
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: AVBG on September 21, 2007, 06:20:22 AM
Sami could petition Jim Manion for a pro card ala Lee Priest (just before he debut at the Niagra pro all those years ago)..

He (Sami) need not win the World amatuer champs , all he really needs to "qualify" (for want of a better word) is a national title..The rest is up to Manion.  ;)
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: jaejonna on September 21, 2007, 06:26:29 AM
hahah Sami's success is limited to poorly lit rooms hahahah Shawn ow3d him big time with a gh sized dose of re-al-it-tee!!!!
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Petrucci on September 21, 2007, 06:28:36 AM
PDI was a very good idea, and it was a better option for Sami, Lee and other guys...
But for what it seems, the thing is DEAD, completely...Join the IFBB if you want to compete, simply because there is not choice  :-\
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Tre on September 21, 2007, 07:12:02 AM
Ditto

How's the training coming along for your fight girls?

http://www.knockoutsforgirls.org/

Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Tre on September 21, 2007, 07:15:27 AM

The question is whether the PDI can survive without Wayne at the the helm. 

If it can, and if Sami can earn $50,000-60,000/year doing those shows in his spare time, then why not go for it? 

From a competitive standpoint, I'd like to see him on the IFBB stage against the best in the world, but from a cash standpoint, maybe he's better off someplace else. 

But as we sit here today, I'm unsure of the PDI's future as Wayne attends to more pressing concerns and the ship is being driven by someone else.

Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: emn1964 on September 21, 2007, 08:07:32 AM
hahah Sami's success is limited to poorly lit rooms hahahah Shawn ow3d him big time with a gh sized dose of re-al-it-tee!!!!

hahahaha...funny thing is that I just posed in my living room too.  I got four first place votes from the couch, two chairs and coffee table.  The end tables gave me third place votes because they are from Bahrain and there's a consiracy to keep me from placing well.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Shawn Ray on September 21, 2007, 10:43:03 AM
You just made my point  ;D
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: rockyfortune on September 21, 2007, 10:55:53 AM
Well as it stands, posing inyour underwear in an obsolete room for the Internet is not the way to go about getting your career in the right direction.
Man up, make a stand and do what you gotta do.
It's not rocket science that you'll be competing against any door knob that has an entry fee and posing trucks when you hit the PDI Stage. Meaning if you win, who do beat and what does it mean?
Enjoy "thinking" about what to do while others like David Henry reap the benefits of his hard work being compare to the elite and posing on the biggest bodybuilding platform there is.
Sure beats posing alone in a dimmly light room :-\
Hope this helps steer you in the right direction :P


he sure as shit told you...now take the man's advice and dump the pdi...that's like playing in the XFL.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Condor on September 21, 2007, 11:30:03 AM
Depends on what you're in it for.  There's a lot of money to be made in the PDI that cannot be made by non "top-6" guys in the IFBB. 
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: rudylrichards on September 21, 2007, 11:37:04 AM
Rodney looks great. Very Full and thick. He is/was a solid IFBB competitor, was top 10 in every show he did since 04 except the O.   Had he been able to peak in all the shows he'd have been top 5. lets see what happens when him and Sammi stands side by side.   
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: emn1964 on September 21, 2007, 11:40:50 AM
Depends on what you're in it for.  There's a lot of money to be made in the PDI that cannot be made by non "top-6" guys in the IFBB. 

"a lot of money"??????  What the hell are you talking about?  Take the prize money then deduct food expenses to get in contest shape, drugs to get into contest shape, travel expense to and from the show, plus hotel.  It's a money losing venture even for the guys that do it for a hobby much less a job.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Condor on September 21, 2007, 11:44:02 AM
"a lot of money"??????  What the hell are you talking about?  Take the prize money then deduct food expenses to get in contest shape, drugs to get into contest shape, travel expense to and from the show, plus hotel.  It's a money losing venture even for the guys that do it for a hobby much less a job.

I'm talking about the tour of Europe afterwords, the guest posings $, the seminars $$.  Lee Preist said he made quite a bit of money just on a couple shows, much more than he was making in the IFBB.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Captain Slin on September 21, 2007, 11:47:30 AM
there is no money in PDI.

who cares if you win PDI show? you have no credibility. no supplemnt company is going to endorse you because you are PDI champion. maybe some will but not many and not large companies like muscletech or BSN.

great you beat lee pirest and rodney st cloud. real proof that you are great right there. biggest PDI show does not even have the same worth has small IFBB show in Canada.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: emn1964 on September 21, 2007, 11:48:23 AM
I'm talking about the tour of Europe afterwords, the guest posings $, the seminars $$.  Lee Preist said he made quite a bit of money just on a couple shows, much more than he was making in the IFBB.

Lee is much different than the usual cast of characters you see in those shows.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: littleguns on September 21, 2007, 11:56:33 AM
Sami, you could be the next Darrem Charles and be the king of the small shows!!

Let's figure out how to get you into the IFBB..

Shawn/Chic.....what's the next move/show? USA's..Nationals...what exactly?
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 21, 2007, 12:09:26 PM
Well as it stands, posing inyour underwear in an obsolete room for the Internet is not the way to go about getting your career in the right direction.
Man up, make a stand and do what you gotta do.
It's not rocket science that you'll be competing against any door knob that has an entry fee and posing trucks when you hit the PDI Stage. Meaning if you win, who do beat and what does it mean?
Enjoy "thinking" about what to do while others like David Henry reap the benefits of his hard work being compare to the elite and posing on the biggest bodybuilding platform there is.
Sure beats posing alone in a dimmly light room :-\
Hope this helps steer you in the right direction :P

Quoted for truth.

Sami you are putting all that shit in your body to snap pics in a laundry room?

risk-reward needs work
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: rudylrichards on September 21, 2007, 12:10:14 PM

That's a pretty good analogy.  ;D
Thank you sir  ;)
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Condor on September 21, 2007, 12:14:33 PM
Lee is much different than the usual cast of characters you see in those shows.

Lee himself has said that if he were off, Sami could have taken him in a few different shows.  The point is, Sami is already making money in the PDI, should he now take a pay cut and jump to the IFBB just for a "shot at the glory?"
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: emn1964 on September 21, 2007, 12:31:57 PM
Lee himself has said that if he were off, Sami could have taken him in a few different shows.  The point is, Sami is already making money in the PDI, should he now take a pay cut and jump to the IFBB just for a "shot at the glory?"

"Sami" first has to earn his way into the ifbb.  We can't assume he will automatically get a pro card.  But none of the PDI shows are guaranteed to happen.  And let's say he does win a few of the PDI Euro shows.  That prize money doesn't cover his expenses.  And he isn't getting the seminar and guest posing gigs that Lee could get because "Sami" isn't Lee.  Who cares what "Sami" has to say.  He doesn't have the reputation and experience of Lee.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Condor on September 21, 2007, 12:36:13 PM
"Sami" first has to earn his way into the ifbb.  We can't assume he will automatically get a pro card.  But none of the PDI shows are guaranteed to happen.  And let's say he does win a few of the PDI Euro shows.  That prize money doesn't cover his expenses.  And he isn't getting the seminar and guest posing gigs that Lee could get because "Sami" isn't Lee.  Who cares what "Sami" has to say.  He doesn't have the reputation and experience of Lee.

I think maybe you should ask sami yourself, I'm quite certain he's been at many guest posings and seminars and been paid for them as well.  It's not as if he's losing money on the deal.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: emn1964 on September 21, 2007, 12:40:40 PM
I think maybe you should ask sami yourself, I'm quite certain he's been at many guest posings and seminars and been paid for them as well.  It's not as if he's losing money on the deal.

How do you know that he's not losing money?
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Canuck on September 21, 2007, 12:41:39 PM
Can Sami even attempt to earn an IFBB pro card?  I am sure in the US he gave up his amateur status by becoming a PDI Professional.  He now has to reapply for amateur status with the NPC to open that feeding system to the IFBB.
Is there an option in Europe that will let him compete for a card?

This is all assuming he is even intrested in obtaining an IFBB card.  Sami has been pretty vocal against the IFBB.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Fatpanda on September 21, 2007, 01:05:11 PM
Hey Bro.. take it easy.. ;D  i meant Average of being NOT THAT big like the rest of the guys in the IFBB...!!  its just the SIZE talk bro... David Henry is one of the best, but i thought the time of LEE LABRADA, SHAWN RAY, RICH GASBARI etc is GONE and the past 10 years most the top bodybuilders are over 240 - 280  there is no more room for 200 -220 even DEXTER started playing the SIZE game which is started to bring him down with mid section



what you need to realise is that the 240-280ish bodybuilders of today look like shit, with their gh guts, layers of water, massive jaws and craniums etc.

the early 90's was perfect. stick with that look. 8)
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Condor on September 21, 2007, 01:07:04 PM
How do you know that he's not losing money?

Or should I say, not losing as much money as he would be competing in the IFBB.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Sami The Black-smith on September 21, 2007, 01:56:53 PM
"a lot of money"??????  What the hell are you talking about?  Take the prize money then deduct food expenses to get in contest shape, drugs to get into contest shape, travel expense to and from the show, plus hotel.  It's a money losing venture even for the guys that do it for a hobby much less a job.

 first of all we r paying for NOTHING..ticket, hotel, meals been paid.. already i got my E.ticket and hotle booking, i sent them the diet plan so they make it ready on my arrival day...
i didnt spend that much on my prep, i guess max is nearly $5k and in return nearly 19k to 24k for shows and 10k for guest posing so u do the math if i am losing cash ;D

Lee himself has said that if he were off, Sami could have taken him in a few different shows.  The point is, Sami is already making money in the PDI, should he now take a pay cut and jump to the IFBB just for a "shot at the glory?"

 i was Aiming for LEE this time but i wasnt lucky to stand next to him at the NOC coz of the cancellation but he was my Training factor and motivation, i am coming 100% to stand next to LEE may be he will come 99% and then his ass is mine ;D

Rodney looks great. Very Full and thick. He is/was a solid IFBB competitor, was top 10 in every show he did since 04 except the O.   Had he been able to peak in all the shows he'd have been top 5. lets see what happens when him and Sammi stands side by side.  

  Rodney is great guy and good friend but he AINT in my way for the show ;) end of the day BEST MAN WIN.. so bring it on :-*
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: rudylrichards on September 21, 2007, 02:11:29 PM

  Rodney is great guy and good friend but he AINT in my way for the show ;) end of the day BEST MAN WIN.. so bring it on :-*
:o :o fighting words. I'm assuming the kiss was meant for  Rodney.  Hopefully he responds and get some kinda rivalry going on between you two.  End of the day that's all you can hope for that the best man wins.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 21, 2007, 02:15:35 PM


 i was Aiming for LEE this time but i wasnt lucky to stand next to him at the NOC coz of the cancellation but he was my Training factor and motivation, i am coming 100% to stand next to LEE may be he will come 99% and then his ass is mine ;D

 
Anyone know the real reason why Lee is not competing in the PDI this year? Falling out with Wayne? What?
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: disco_stu on September 21, 2007, 02:18:47 PM
Nowhere near top 5 olympia. top 6 in $10,000 shows though.

Sami- i personally think that this post is not far wrong.

Yes you look good, and yes you have a classic build and dont show any hints of polumbuism...but you are not Top 5 at the Arnold IMO and definitely not top 5 olympia.

You'd be blessed to be top 10 in the 'O.

This is not to be offensive...but real. If the PDI offers more potential for earnings then stay there.. the IFBB is a tough nut to crack...but maybe you are more likely to get other gigs by being there..i dont know.

Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Sami The Black-smith on September 21, 2007, 02:25:51 PM
:o :o fighting words. I'm assuming the kiss was meant for  Rodney.  Hopefully he responds and get some kinda rivalry going on between you two.  End of the day that's all you can hope for that the best man wins.

 WHAT FIGHT ???....... why u twist it like that?? do u have fun by saying that...???  THATS HOW THE FUN get started in the show.... ;D i dont think ME or RODNEY or ANDREAS FREY going to Norway to have dinner :) we r going for CHALLANGE and each of us wants to proof he is the BEST....thats all Bro
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Monster81 on September 21, 2007, 02:27:22 PM
I belive the only reason why Lee Preist joined the PDI is to challenge The IFBB, Bob, and Shawn, just to prove to the that he can take what ever decision and that the IFBB cant contrill him. but then realised  the PDI aint worth it, my point to Sami is dont expect him to show up in the PDI again .
I also think that Rodney will soon follow Lees decision  
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: rudylrichards on September 21, 2007, 02:57:29 PM
WHAT FIGHT ???....... why u twist it like that?? do u have fun by saying that...???  THATS HOW THE FUN get started in the show.... ;D i dont think ME or RODNEY or ANDREAS FREY going to Norway to have dinner :) we r going for CHALLANGE and each of us wants to proof he is the BEST....thats all Bro
No fight Sammi, not the way you're thinking, we have a language or customs barrier.  By figth, i mean the same thing you mean by FUN or mixing it up onstage.  If Rodney comes on here and mix it up with you or have FUN (fight in a friendly way) that'll generate interest, interest sells tickets.  I thought thats why you said what you said and sent the "kiss" to generate trash talk between you and him.  Hope you undesrtand me better now.   
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Sami The Black-smith on September 21, 2007, 04:03:04 PM
No fight Sammi, not the way you're thinking, we have a language or customs barrier.  By figth, i mean the same thing you mean by FUN or mixing it up onstage.  If Rodney comes on here and mix it up with you or have FUN (fight in a friendly way) that'll generate interest, interest sells tickets.  I thought thats why you said what you said and sent the "kiss" to generate trash talk between you and him.  Hope you undesrtand me better now.   

 Ops.. forgive my ARABIC language bro ;D yeah you right 100% and thats what i am trying to do, mian thing is every thing should be done in a friendly way ;) even winning the show in a friendly way :o  it CAN be?!
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Luv2Hurt on September 21, 2007, 04:10:40 PM
hahahaha...funny thing is that I just posed in my living room too.  I got four first place votes from the couch, two chairs and coffee table.  The end tables gave me third place votes because they are from Bahrain and there's a consiracy to keep me from placing well.

 LMAO  ;D
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: jaejonna on September 21, 2007, 04:12:38 PM
In all seriousness, why cant ANY bodybuilder do ANY show regardless of what federation its in ?
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Tre on September 21, 2007, 05:34:34 PM
In all seriousness, why cant ANY bodybuilder do ANY show regardless of what federation its in ?

Precisely.

The PGA Tour wouldn't think of penalizing a pro who decided to play a non-PGA event. 

Why?

Because every appearance outside the PGA is another marketing opportunity for their product. 



Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: timfogarty on September 21, 2007, 07:00:18 PM
Can Sami even attempt to earn an IFBB pro card?  I am sure in the US he gave up his amateur status by becoming a PDI Professional. 

There is no such thing as amateur status in the NPC.   Stan McQuay and many others have competed as pros in Musclemania and the WNBF at the same time as competing in the NPC.

Also a court settlement in the early 1980s prevents the NPC from discriminating against anyone for competing in contests of other organizations.

However, unless Sami becomes a permanent resident of the US, it's unlikely that he could compete at the national level in the NPC.

But again, the IFBB can and has given pro card to who ever they want.  Nothing requires an athlete to first compete at the amateur level in the IFBB to become a pro.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: gordiano on September 21, 2007, 07:04:14 PM


However, unless Sami becomes a permanent resident of the US, it's unlikely that he could compete at the national level in the NPC.



Maybe Sami can pull a "Servio" and find someone to marry for a greencard?
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Condor on September 21, 2007, 07:44:10 PM
first of all we r paying for NOTHING..ticket, hotel, meals been paid.. already i got my E.ticket and hotle booking, i sent them the diet plan so they make it ready on my arrival day...
i didnt spend that much on my prep, i guess max is nearly $5k and in return nearly 19k to 24k for shows and 10k for guest posing so u do the math if i am losing cash ;D

 i was Aiming for LEE this time but i wasnt lucky to stand next to him at the NOC coz of the cancellation but he was my Training factor and motivation, i am coming 100% to stand next to LEE may be he will come 99% and then his ass is mine ;D

  Rodney is great guy and good friend but he AINT in my way for the show ;) end of the day BEST MAN WIN.. so bring it on :-*

I knew I was right on this, thanks sami for pointing out the facts!

You want my opinion, stay where you are if the money is there, you're certainly not going to come out any better in the IFBB financially speaking.  And goin toe-to-toe with Lee Priest is certainly something to brag about. You may be looking at MAYBE just maybe a few top 6 placings in some IFBB shows, making nowhere near as much money.  I would wait until you conquer Lee and/or the whole PDI and then make your move.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: titusisback on September 21, 2007, 10:39:52 PM
i didnt spend that much on my prep, i guess max is nearly $5k and in return nearly 19k to 24k for shows and 10k for guest posing so u do the math if i am losing cash ;D

Ok, free hotel and airplane ticket is chicken shit. You get $14-19k profit / show? How many shows? Two or three? Or zero? I'd also like to know who's paying $10k for guest posing please. Let's assume you earn $60k for fucking up your body; is it worth it? Get to IFBB and figure out a way to make $200-300k / year minimum because pro bodybuilder's career is short.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: onlyme on September 22, 2007, 01:45:14 AM
Ok, free hotel and airplane ticket is chicken shit. You get $14-19k profit / show? How many shows? Two or three? Or zero? I'd also like to know who's paying $10k for guest posing please. Let's assume you earn $60k for fucking up your body; is it worth it? Get to IFBB and figure out a way to make $200-300k / year minimum because pro bodybuilder's career is short.

There is 2 maybe 3 people in the IFBB that make over $100,000 competing
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Sami The Black-smith on September 22, 2007, 02:01:25 AM
Ok, free hotel and airplane ticket is chicken shit. You get $14-19k profit / show? How many shows? Two or three? Or zero? I'd also like to know who's paying $10k for guest posing please. Let's assume you earn $60k for fucking up your body; is it worth it? Get to IFBB and figure out a way to make $200-300k / year minimum because pro bodybuilder's career is short.

 WHEN u talk like a GENTELMAN then i will answer your questions ;)
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: emn1964 on September 22, 2007, 06:38:08 AM
first of all we r paying for NOTHING..ticket, hotel, meals been paid.. already i got my E.ticket and hotle booking, i sent them the diet plan so they make it ready on my arrival day...
i didnt spend that much on my prep, i guess max is nearly $5k and in return nearly 19k to 24k for shows and 10k for guest posing so u do the math if i am losing cash ;D

Ok "Sami", here's a business lesson on how to come up with your net profit.  You have to calculate your TOTAL costs for the show to determine your profit.  So, even though your hotel, flight and meals AT THE SHOW are paid, you have to consider the costs to prepare for the show.  That means the costs of your day to day FOOD in excess of what a person ordinarily eats for sustinence in prep for the show, PLUS the costs of your DRUGS, plus the opportunity costs of having to live a lifestyle that does not allow you to work a regular job.

So, "Sami"  reply with your FOOD costs and your DRUG costs and we will go from there.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: rudylrichards on September 22, 2007, 08:21:51 AM
Ops.. forgive my ARABIC language bro ;D yeah you right 100% and thats what i am trying to do, mian thing is every thing should be done in a friendly way ;) even winning the show in a friendly way :o  it CAN be?!
No problem :). We have some similar friends/associates, including Rodney, who speak very highly of you, best wishes with all.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Sami The Black-smith on September 22, 2007, 08:34:12 AM
Ok "Sami", here's a business lesson on how to come up with your net profit.  You have to calculate your TOTAL costs for the show to determine your profit.  So, even though your hotel, flight and meals AT THE SHOW are paid, you have to consider the costs to prepare for the show.  That means the costs of your day to day FOOD in excess of what a person ordinarily eats for sustinence in prep for the show, PLUS the costs of your DRUGS, plus the opportunity costs of having to live a lifestyle that does not allow you to work a regular job.

So, "Sami"  reply with your FOOD costs and your DRUG costs and we will go from there.

  DIDNT i tell u i dont want to see u in my threads and i will ignor ur posts??!!  feel  a shame OLD MAN.. you are NOT well comed at all coz ur brain is Fu---- ;D

  PLZ wear ur 1970 Optical Glasses and look at my post that u QUOTED ;) i said 5k that means $5000 = 1,889.75 Bahraini Dinars so this amount covers my (FOOD, SUPPLEMENTS,MASSAGE TREATMENTS etc.)  for about 3 months....then i do have a normal lifestyle which allow me to have Govorment job plus i do part time job as personal training SO OLD MAN if u didnt get hope u got it now and GET LOST FROM MY THREAD if u have little shame :-\   



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Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 22, 2007, 08:41:40 AM
  DIDNT i tell u i dont want to see u in my threads and i will ignor ur posts??!!  feel  a shame OLD MAN.. you are NOT well comed at all coz ur brain is Fu---- ;D

  PLZ wear ur 1970 Optical Glasses and look at my post that u QUOTED ;) i said 5k that means $5000 = 1,889.75 Bahraini Dinars so this amount covers my (FOOD, SUPPLEMENTS,MASSAGE TREATMENTS etc.)  for about 3 months....then i do have a normal lifestyle which allow me to have Govorment job plus i do part time job as personal training SO OLD MAN if u didnt get hope u got it now and GET LOST FROM MY THREAD if u have little shame :-\   

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Sammy, I like you.  You're a good bodybuilder but you'll never know that your great unless you stand against the top elite bodybuilders in the world and it isn't in the PDI.  You can say what you want about David Henry but the fact is that being onstage is much different then posing in your underwear with socks on for Getbig.


In other words, no-one gives a shit about a backseat bodybuilder.


If you're that good, then stop making excuses and compete in the IFBB.  Otherwise you'll never know how good you are
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Sami The Black-smith on September 22, 2007, 08:53:09 AM

Sammy, I like you.  You're a good bodybuilder but you'll never know that your great unless you stand against the top elite bodybuilders in the world and it isn't in the PDI.  You can say what you want about David Henry but the fact is that being onstage is much different then posing in your underwear with socks on for Getbig.
In other words, no-one gives a shit about a backseat bodybuilder.
If you're that good, then stop making excuses and compete in the IFBB.  Otherwise you'll never know how good you are

   WHY you are that MAD ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D by the way i didnt say any thing BAD about David Henry IF u think so.. coz i gave him the credit.

   so plz now try to Chill and not to be hater coz it wont make things better :-*
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: gymguy on September 22, 2007, 08:59:17 AM
Hey Sami,
Don't bother defending yourself to every criticism on this board.  Trust me, there are a lot of loosers on this board who only put other people down.  I'd ignore them and keep doing what you are doing in the gym.  You look amazing!!!
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Armageddon on September 22, 2007, 09:19:37 AM
And vince G FLR MCT GHR XYZ is a looser so don’t pay any attention to him,, I still cant figure how the hell he can post here after his embracing crazy mofo look on stage,, you can describe this man with one word SHIT
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Monster81 on September 22, 2007, 10:45:20 AM
i think these daily posting pics r going fashion more that just posing ;D
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 22, 2007, 10:53:09 AM
   WHY you are that MAD ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D by the way i didnt say any thing BAD about David Henry IF u think so.. coz i gave him the credit.

   so plz now try to Chill and not to be hater coz it wont make things better :-*



Sami, there's no hate and I'm not mad.  I said you were a good bodybuilder.  But this is what you said:

 looking at the latest shows of the IFBB and i asked my self IS IT TOUGH to be with these guys   
to be honest, is it ME becoming that GOOD, or is it some top PROs started to fade and look not that good any more ( i guess Both)
  after D. Henry placing at the last show i knew IFBB started to take the right way on the average guys like me and judging fairly......so in a moment it came to my mind and thoughts PDI or IFBB....?!  i wish some guys not to take it wrong and think that i am aiming for IFBB   i am committed to PDI the whole 2007 and i am going no where





You are basically bragging that you are better than the some of the Top Pro's.  All I'm saying is to prove it by competing in the IFBB against these TOP IFBB Pro.  Also reading back, Shawn Ray pretty much said the same thing I'm saying.

You can fool yourself or disagree, but regardless, you'll never be able to prove yourself as a top bodybuilder unless you're competing against the best.  The IFBB is where they compete and that's where you have to go.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Monster81 on September 22, 2007, 10:58:25 AM


Sami, there's no hate and I'm not mad.  I said you were a good bodybuilder.  But this is what you said:

 looking at the latest shows of the IFBB and i asked my self IS IT TOUGH to be with these guys   
to be honest, is it ME becoming that GOOD, or is it some top PROs started to fade and look not that good any more ( i guess Both)
  after D. Henry placing at the last show i knew IFBB started to take the right way on the average guys like me and judging fairly......so in a moment it came to my mind and thoughts PDI or IFBB....?!  i wish some guys not to take it wrong and think that i am aiming for IFBB   i am committed to PDI the whole 2007 and i am going no where





You are basically bragging that you are better than the some of the Top Pro's.  All I'm saying is to prove it by competing in the IFBB against these TOP IFBB Pro.  Also reading back, Shawn Ray pretty much said the same thing I'm saying.

You can fool yourself or disagree, but regardless, you'll never be able to prove yourself as a top bodybuilder unless you're competing against the best.  The IFBB is where they compete and that's where you have to go.
Sami s on extreme low carb diet, he taking all posts as hate posts ;D
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: aliamini on September 22, 2007, 11:01:12 AM


Sami, there's no hate and I'm not mad.  I said you were a good bodybuilder.  But this is what you said:

 looking at the latest shows of the IFBB and i asked my self IS IT TOUGH to be with these guys   
to be honest, is it ME becoming that GOOD, or is it some top PROs started to fade and look not that good any more ( i guess Both)
  after D. Henry placing at the last show i knew IFBB started to take the right way on the average guys like me and judging fairly......so in a moment it came to my mind and thoughts PDI or IFBB....?!  i wish some guys not to take it wrong and think that i am aiming for IFBB   i am committed to PDI the whole 2007 and i am going no where





You are basically bragging that you are better than the some of the Top Pro's.  All I'm saying is to prove it by competing in the IFBB against these TOP IFBB Pro.  Also reading back, Shawn Ray pretty much said the same thing I'm saying.

You can fool yourself or disagree, but regardless, you'll never be able to prove yourself as a top bodybuilder unless you're competing against the best.  The IFBB is where they compete and that's where you have to go.

We know that and we are working on it … so stop bringing up this subject in every Sami post … as for the atlatic city he could have easily paced in the top 3 if he participated … don’t judge by the pix posted … cause if he was going to do the show it would have been a whole different ball game …
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 22, 2007, 11:09:24 AM
We know that and we are working on it … so stop bringing up this subject in every Sami post … as for the atlatic city he could have easily paced in the top 3 if he participated … don’t judge by the pix posted … cause if he was going to do the show it would have been a whole different ball game …





You just made my point about being a bragging backseat bodybuilder, Deputy Dipshit........ ::) 
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: aliamini on September 22, 2007, 11:35:32 AM
I shouldn’t brag about what I am doing … u should brag of what u r doing and how u look like … keep up the good work …

Sami … where did u get those pants from???

Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Monster81 on September 22, 2007, 11:41:21 AM
10% off @ samifashon.com ;D
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: rudylrichards on September 22, 2007, 11:53:30 AM
We know that and we are working on it … so stop bringing up this subject in every Sami post … as for the atlatic city he could have easily paced in the top 3 if he participated … don’t judge by the pix posted … cause if he was going to do the show it would have been a whole different ball game …
Aliamini, Vince just owned the crap outta you, lol.  I brought his point up also.  Sami has a very good physique, no denying that.  The problem with saying "...he could have easily placed in the top 3 if he participated..." is very disrespectful to the other pros. You're saying he'd beat melvin, who granted wasn't at his best but is one of the top 5 guys in the sport (at least last yr). If Sami can be him easily, he'd be top 5 in the O easily.  In that case and with his marketability, he'd make alot more than $60,000 a yr (might be wrong but I think that's what he said he made). 
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: BEAST 8692 on September 22, 2007, 12:06:11 PM
looking at the latest shows of the IFBB and i asked my self IS IT TOUGH to be with these guys :-\ 
to be honest, is it ME becoming that GOOD, or is it some top PROs started to fade and look not that good any more ( i guess Both) ;D

 after D. Henry placing at the last show i knew IFBB started to take the right way on the average guys like me and judging fairly......so in a moment it came to my mind and thoughts PDI or IFBB....?!  i wish some guys not to take it wrong and think that i am aiming for IFBB ;D  i am committed to PDI the whole 2007 and i am going no where ;)

 Pics been taken 3days ago:

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/musclemania2005/M2.jpg)

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/musclemania2005/M3.jpg)

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/musclemania2005/M1.jpg)

don't know if this has been mentioned (can't be fuked looking through this thread) but you might aswell get your ass back to the ifbb because pdi is going nowhere fast.

you might choose to stay with pdi 2007 as if someone gives a fuk, but you're in for a dissapointing year if that's the case and all you're doing is stalling any possible career you might have and alienating yourself from the people that will make or break it.

btw, sami, all due respect, you're not fooling anyone. you chose pdi because you knew you couldn't cut it with the ifbb. scared move imo and somewhat delusional in the fact that, if you can't cut it with the ifbb then you aint gunna cut it period. ;)



the pdi is going to fold
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: emn1964 on September 22, 2007, 01:45:09 PM
  DIDNT i tell u i dont want to see u in my threads and i will ignor ur posts??!!  feel  a shame OLD MAN.. you are NOT well comed at all coz ur brain is Fu---- ;D

  PLZ wear ur 1970 Optical Glasses and look at my post that u QUOTED ;) i said 5k that means $5000 = 1,889.75 Bahraini Dinars so this amount covers my (FOOD, SUPPLEMENTS,MASSAGE TREATMENTS etc.)  for about 3 months....then i do have a normal lifestyle which allow me to have Govorment job plus i do part time job as personal training SO OLD MAN if u didnt get hope u got it now and GET LOST FROM MY THREAD if u have little shame :-\ 


So, does that 5,000 also cover your drugs?  Or does a "sponsor" pay for them too?  Just curious.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 22, 2007, 01:50:48 PM
Aliamini, Vince just owned the crap outta you, lol.  I brought his point up also.  Sami has a very good physique, no denying that.  The problem with saying "...he could have easily placed in the top 3 if he participated..." is very disrespectful to the other pros. You're saying he'd beat melvin, who granted wasn't at his best but is one of the top 5 guys in the sport (at least last yr). If Sami can be him easily, he'd be top 5 in the O easily.  In that case and with his marketability, he'd make alot more than $60,000 a yr (might be wrong but I think that's what he said he made). 
u know ...u talk so much    shit to one of the best contest prep guys/nutritionists   around..I'll  take it u can post a few pics of yourself or athletes u trained        to shut me up.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: rudylrichards on September 22, 2007, 02:43:20 PM
u know ...u talk so much    shit to one of the best contest prep guys/nutritionists   around..I'll  take it u can post a few pics of yourself or athletes u trained        to shut me up.
u Know ...u make no sense   Who am I talking shit to ??? ???. Post a few pics of myself or athletes I train to shut you up  ???  who are you and why should i care about shutting you up?? No, I don't fel like posting any pics to shut you up but if you post pics of you or guys you train I'll gladly do the same.  And you won't have to shut afterwards, this is an opinion forum genious  ;) .. I'm merely pointing out to Aliamini, regardless of who he is, that it's disrespectful to say he'd easily place 3rd in a show like AC, beating guys like Melvin and the others behind him if he wanted to. 

Or

Are you pissed because i said he got owned.  Vince made a point, he tried to counter Vinces point, in doing so, he made Vinces argument even stronger.  haven't been around GB that much but enought to know that in GB terms that's called owned  and that's what i pointed out:-*. 
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 22, 2007, 02:54:29 PM
u Know ...u make no sense   Who am I talking shit to ??? ???. Post a few pics of myself or athletes I train to shut you up  ???  who are you and why should i care about shutting you up?? No, I don't fel like posting any pics to shut you up but if you post pics of you or guys you train I'll gladly do the same.  And you won't have to shut afterwards, this is an opinion forum genious  ;) .. I'm merely pointing out to Aliamini, regardless of who he is, that it's disrespectful to say he'd easily place 3rd in a show like AC, beating guys like Melvin and the others behind him if he wanted to. 

Or

Are you pissed because i said he got owned.  Vince made a point, he tried to counter Vinces point, in doing so, he made Vinces argument even stronger.  haven't been around GB that much but enought to know that in GB terms that's called owned  and that's what i pointed out:-*. 
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: SteelePegasus on September 22, 2007, 03:18:21 PM
Sevastase you are a piece of euro fag dog shit..and those are your good points
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Monster81 on September 22, 2007, 03:32:49 PM
savastase is natural
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: rudylrichards on September 22, 2007, 03:38:23 PM
Ok, I respect that, I give credit.  In the 1st pic you have a very good physique, lots of potential.  In the 2nd pic, lets just say you should keep those private sessions private  ;D (just a joke).

Be carefull what you ask for right, by that, I mean, i said if you post pics I'd post pics and you did.  However, I'm not gonna post  pics, sorry.  I think it's very rude for me to do that on Sami's thread.  Lets give him the respect and keep the thread about him and his decision as opposed to you and I posting pics trying to out to each other.  Besides i' embarrass you if I did  ;D(having some FUN like sami said earlier - just so there's no language barrier, that was a joke, don't take this too serious)

I know you'll probably think I'm bs, and you have a right to because I challenged you (after u challenged me) you stepped up and I backed down.

Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Monster81 on September 22, 2007, 04:01:27 PM
Ok, I respect that, I give credit.  In the 1st pic you have a very good physique, lots of potential.  In the 2nd pic, lets just say you should keep those private sessions private  ;D (just a joke).

Be carefull what you ask for right, by that, I mean, i said if you post pics I'd post pics and you did.  However, I'm not gonna post  pics, sorry.  I think it's very rude for me to do that on Sami's thread.  Lets give him the respect and keep the thread about him and his decision as opposed to you and I posting pics trying to out to each other.  Besides i' embarrass you if I did  ;D(having some FUN like sami said earlier - just so there's no language barrier, that was a joke, don't take this too serious)

I know you'll probably think I'm bs, and you have a right to because I challenged you (after u challenged me) you stepped up and I backed down.


now quit bein a cowered and post some comparison pics
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: rudylrichards on September 22, 2007, 04:42:43 PM
now quit bein a cowered and post some comparison pics
This is becoming quite funny, are you serious?? I was asked to post a pic to shut savatese up.. I don't care about shutting him up. I didn't think he would post pics like most ppl and thought his argument as to why I should post pics was really weak. I  post on this topic because I thoguht it was disrespectful to the ifbb pros.  I never get the point of telling someone to post their pics in order to state their opinion.  Whether i'm 1/2 his size or 2x his size, what the point ???   

If me posting pics was relevant to the topic or if this was his thread I would.  Rodney post his pic's and that was cool, they're promoting the same thing and competing against each other. I'm not competing against savatese.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on September 22, 2007, 04:47:58 PM
PDI+IFBB=olive oil
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: dr.chimps on September 22, 2007, 05:19:10 PM
Sevastase you are a piece of euro fag dog shit..and those are your good points
LOL. Not the words I would have used, but the sentiments are the same.  :D

/you are such a douche bag
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: titusisback on September 22, 2007, 06:05:15 PM
WHEN u talk like a GENTELMAN then i will answer your questions ;)

What was wrong with the way I asked you the question? The fact that you feel defensive is of course because you don't WANT to answer the question. Truth hurts, doesn't it?
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on September 22, 2007, 06:52:30 PM
I shouldn’t brag about what I am doing … u should brag of what u r doing and how u look like … keep up the good work …

Sami … where did u get those pants from???



i think sami has a time machine back to the early 90s.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: theworm on September 22, 2007, 07:04:00 PM
I have him in 6th if he did the Atlantic City Pro.  No way would he have beaten Cormier.


At the O?  no way top ten!


Listen to Shawn, he is very smart (when it comes to BB).
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Tre on September 22, 2007, 09:34:38 PM
Also reading back, Shawn Ray pretty much said the same thing I'm saying.

Plus, back when you were in Jr ROTC, you had the same flattop haircut as Shawn was sporting at that time.  ::)
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Rodney St. Cloud on September 23, 2007, 12:39:59 AM
 whats up everybody I just back from a stripping gig at a club. Yo the place was fucking packed to the gills with biotches. I decided to check out the forum and just saw all the fussing going on. I just thought let me and some fuel to the fire. By the way here are a few pics exactly 3weeks out from the Norwegian show.
[imghttp://www.rodneystcloud.com/imagespreview/3weeksout2]http://[/img]
(http://www.rodneystcloud.com/imagespreview/3weeksout3)
(http://www.rodneystcloud.com/imagespreview/3weeksout6)
(http://www.rodneystcloud.com/imagespreview/3weeksout7)
(http://www.rodneystcloud.com/imagespreview/3weeksout8)

 Whats up Sami cant wait until 3weeks its going to be a real battle of champions I promise you!!!

Something to think about.
     now that Wayne Demilias P.D.I. is officially over in th U.S.A.. I was wondering if the athletes that promised Wayne that they would compete in the P.D.I., but did not because the I.F.B.B. offered them small contracts, guest posing, Pro cards, etc. I was wondering if they are saying Ha Ha I am glad that I did not go over, Or are they feeling a bit nervous because if the I.F.B.B. gave them these wonderful things,  small contracts, guest posing, a promised Pro cards, etc, to keep the athletes from going over to the P.D.I.. Now that the P.D.I. is over with whats to stop the I.F.B.B. from pulling out of those deals, or promises. what is the athletes going to do, Now where are they going to go?

Rodney St. Cloud   
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Monster81 on September 23, 2007, 12:42:53 AM
we hav the same punch bag the the gym
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Atlantic on September 23, 2007, 12:59:25 AM
Aliamini, Vince just owned the crap outta you, lol.  I brought his point up also.  Sami has a very good physique, no denying that.  The problem with saying "...he could have easily placed in the top 3 if he participated..." is very disrespectful to the other pros. You're saying he'd beat melvin, who granted wasn't at his best but is one of the top 5 guys in the sport (at least last yr). If Sami can be him easily, he'd be top 5 in the O easily.  In that case and with his marketability, he'd make alot more than $60,000 a yr (might be wrong but I think that's what he said he made). 

To me sami looks better that JOJ and Darrem Charles,, Jonnie is to thick even thicker than his frame that’s why he shows a bit blocky and unnecessarily wide

As for darrem he lacks quad size and his physique is very small and still needs more size; condition wise he is good but so is sami.

Melvin Anthony, he said bodybuilding is pose to pose so

f/double bi  Melvin
f/lat spread  Melvin
side chest  Sami
r/double bi  tie (Melvin has a better back but Sami rules in the condition and has better hams and calves)
r/lat spread  tie (same as above)
ab & thigh  Sami all the way
MM  Sami

So I guess ya sami could have beaten Melvin if you judge it the way Melvin judges the show.  No disrespect

QT &CC weren’t even close to a hard condition just cause they are elite bodybuilders doesn’t mean they are unbeatable, they didn’t come in showing the ultimate best so no they couldn’t have beaten sami.


I don’t think it was hard for sami to place top 3.  maybe top 6 cause he is not famous and judges don’t know him; but to be fare and judge the show like it should have been judges he could easily made top 3 and Melvin should have been in the top 3 as well.

My 2c
 

Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: emn1964 on September 23, 2007, 07:03:36 AM
To me sami looks better that JOJ and Darrem Charles,, Jonnie is to thick even thicker than his frame that’s why he shows a bit blocky and unnecessarily wide

As for darrem he lacks quad size and his physique is very small and still needs more size; condition wise he is good but so is sami.

Melvin Anthony, he said bodybuilding is pose to pose so

f/double bi  Melvin
f/lat spread  Melvin
side chest  Sami
r/double bi  tie (Melvin has a better back but Sami rules in the condition and has better hams and calves)
r/lat spread  tie (same as above)
ab & thigh  Sami all the way
MM  Sami

So I guess ya sami could have beaten Melvin if you judge it the way Melvin judges the show.  No disrespect

QT &CC weren’t even close to a hard condition just cause they are elite bodybuilders doesn’t mean they are unbeatable, they didn’t come in showing the ultimate best so no they couldn’t have beaten sami.


I don’t think it was hard for sami to place top 3.  maybe top 6 cause he is not famous and judges don’t know him; but to be fare and judge the show like it should have been judges he could easily made top 3 and Melvin should have been in the top 3 as well.

My 2c

It's nearly impossible to say that Sami or JOJ is better than one or the other when THEY ARE NOT ON STAGE TOGETHER.  That's where competitors are judged.  Not in pictures.  I've been to shows and then seen pics later and the pics sometimes don't look like they did live in person.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: BEAST 8692 on September 23, 2007, 07:24:54 AM
It's nearly impossible to say that Sami or JOJ is better than one or the other when THEY ARE NOT ON STAGE TOGETHER.  That's where competitors are judged.  Not in pictures.  I've been to shows and then seen pics later and the pics sometimes don't look like they did live in person.

spot on.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Armageddon on September 23, 2007, 07:48:15 AM
It's nearly impossible to say that Sami or JOJ is better than one or the other when THEY ARE NOT ON STAGE TOGETHER.  That's where competitors are judged.  Not in pictures.  I've been to shows and then seen pics later and the pics sometimes don't look like they did live in person.

Same goes for sami’s pix

I think he will be much more defined and shredded in real.  I never like photos

But comparing JOJ and sami; pic to pic I have to with atlantic

Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: rudylrichards on September 23, 2007, 09:26:55 AM
It's nearly impossible to say that Sami or JOJ is better than one or the other when THEY ARE NOT ON STAGE TOGETHER.  That's where competitors are judged.  Not in pictures.  I've been to shows and then seen pics later and the pics sometimes don't look like they did live in person.
You are 100% correct, but try explaining that to someone who's never been to a show
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: SteelePegasus on September 23, 2007, 09:30:05 AM
I don't see rodney as being competition for Sammi, he is a distant second IMO

Rondey, how much do you make in tips on a good night? also how you strip in the offseason carrying 30lbs of water and fat?
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: rudylrichards on September 23, 2007, 09:43:08 AM
[imghttp://www.rodneystcloud.com/imagespreview/3weeksout2]http://[/img]
(http://www.rodneystcloud.com/imagespreview/3weeksout3)
(http://www.rodneystcloud.com/imagespreview/3weeksout6)
(http://www.rodneystcloud.com/imagespreview/3weeksout7)
(http://www.rodneystcloud.com/imagespreview/3weeksout8)

 
Rodney looks thick and full as hell there.  The comparison should be between him vs Sami.   What if Rodney beats Sami ???
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Rodney St. Cloud on September 23, 2007, 11:57:12 AM
I don't see Rodney as being competition for Sammi, he is a distant second IMO

Rodney, how much do you make in tips on a good night? also how you strip in the offseason carrying 30lbs of water and fat?

 The most I ever mage in tips was $500. I was stripping for female strippers. I guess they are trained to tip because thats is how they make there money.
 Most male dancers don't rely on tips to make there money. If a club, or a someone wants to book me for a Bridal, birthday, divorce party, I get one set price on top of my tips, and travel expenses if the show is ou of town. That one price is for 45min total in and out. So we make our money doing more than one party.
 
  I really dont get fat or hold water when I am OFF!!!-season.

 FYI in the near future I will be throwing my own male revue shows in NYC, and will be looking for talent to entertain the hungry ladies. So I will keep everyone posted. This is a great route to make some legal money off your hard earned bodies. You can use this money to invest into your bodybuilding budget, food, gym fees, and of course supplements!!! ;) ;) ;). 
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on September 23, 2007, 12:02:40 PM
The most I ever mage in tips was $500. I was stripping for female strippers. I guess they are trained to tip because thats is how they make there money.
 Most male dancers don't rely on tips to make there money. If a club, or a someone wants to book me for a Bridal, birthday, divorce party, I get one set price on top of my tips, and travel expenses if the show is ou of town. That one price is for 45min total in and out. So we make our money doing more than one party.
 
  I really dont get fat or hold water when I am OFF!!!-season.

 FYI in the near future I will be throwing my own male revue shows in NYC, and will be looking for talent to entertain the hungry ladies. So I will keep everyone posted. This is a great route to make some legal money off your hard earned bodies. You can use this money to invest into your bodybuilding budget, food, gym fees, and of course supplements!!! ;) ;) ;). 

rodney, i know some rich women in NY..maybe i can help you get a few sugar mommies there? :D

i had a great time fucking some (well 2..not at same time tho lol)) rich horny as hell female lawyers last time i was in NY.  ;D
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 23, 2007, 12:05:28 PM
Wayne Demilias P.D.I. is officially over in th U.S.A..

Rodney St. Cloud   


It's official.  ;D



(I wonder what Rhino is going to do now?)
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: cgcgraded on September 23, 2007, 12:12:16 PM
Well as it stands, posing inyour underwear in an obsolete room for the Internet is not the way to go about getting your career in the right direction.
Man up, make a stand and do what you gotta do.
It's not rocket science that you'll be competing against any door knob that has an entry fee and posing trucks when you hit the PDI Stage. Meaning if you win, who do beat and what does it mean?
Enjoy "thinking" about what to do while others like David Henry reap the benefits of his hard work being compare to the elite and posing on the biggest bodybuilding platform there is.
Sure beats posing alone in a dimmly light room :-\
Hope this helps steer you in the right direction :P

seems like some attention whoring to get people to say how great he looks
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 23, 2007, 12:37:15 PM
seems like some attention whoring to get people to say how great he looks


He's far less of an attention-whore than Arvilla.   ;D
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on September 23, 2007, 12:48:31 PM
seems like some attention whoring to get people to say how great he looks

just like you  ;D

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=166593.msg2348275#msg2348275
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Sami The Black-smith on September 23, 2007, 01:39:01 PM
I shouldn’t brag about what I am doing … u should brag of what u r doing and how u look like … keep up the good work …

Sami … where did u get those pants from???


  ALI i guess u r getting OLD and u dont remember that u r the one who got me the pants from Germany when u went there for the FIBO to take some shoots whith the GIRLS there :-*

 WHEN u come back to town u better see my CHARGER how it look like now after the changes!!  see u soon
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 23, 2007, 01:42:18 PM
nice!!!!!!!!!! I like the logo :"BLACKSMITH"
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: cgcgraded on September 23, 2007, 01:52:56 PM
just like you  ;D

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=166593.msg2348275#msg2348275

yea man i really whored it up, but im not starting threads with "3 week out pics" every few days....is it just me or has this guy been "3 weeks out" for a few months?
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Sami The Black-smith on September 23, 2007, 01:58:42 PM

 Thanks SEVASTASE... here is some more... i never thought my thread will go that BIG so i thought of moving it from bodybuilding to CAR show ;D

Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 23, 2007, 02:04:12 PM
Some of the mods are nice, but overall it's too over-the-top for my tastes.
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: bigdumbbell on September 23, 2007, 02:09:57 PM
that's too gangsta for my neighborhood
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Sami The Black-smith on September 24, 2007, 02:44:38 AM
Some of the mods are nice, but overall it's too over-the-top for my tastes.

 i respect ur Taste, and i beleive every one has his own taste and this is my taste ;D check out the new look of my NINJA ZX-10r......... i just fixed the side PIG MIRROR...

Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: emn1964 on September 24, 2007, 06:48:03 AM
"Sami"--aren't you afraid of losing your government job and all your cheap toys if they find out you use steroids and gh??
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: sgt. d on September 24, 2007, 07:10:17 AM
"Sami"--aren't you afraid of losing your government job and all your cheap toys if they find out you use steroids and gh??

Enough already
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: RagingBull on September 24, 2007, 07:37:16 AM
whats up everybody I just back from a stripping gig at a club. Yo the place was fucking packed to the gills with biotches.Rodney St. Cloud   

A disgrace to professional bodybuilding! 

Actually, allow me to fix my own post:

A disgrace to PDI bodybuilding! 
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Sami The Black-smith on September 24, 2007, 08:05:06 AM
The most I ever mage in tips was $500. I was stripping for female strippers. I guess they are trained to tip because thats is how they make there money.
 Most male dancers don't rely on tips to make there money. If a club, or a someone wants to book me for a Bridal, birthday, divorce party, I get one set price on top of my tips, and travel expenses if the show is ou of town. That one price is for 45min total in and out. So we make our money doing more than one party.
 
  I really dont get fat or hold water when I am OFF!!!-season.

 FYI in the near future I will be throwing my own male revue shows in NYC, and will be looking for talent to entertain the hungry ladies. So I will keep everyone posted. This is a great route to make some legal money off your hard earned bodies. You can use this money to invest into your bodybuilding budget, food, gym fees, and of course supplements!!! ;) ;) ;). 

 Hey Big ROD.... dont bother ur self with haters bro.... just ignor them if they started acting stupid ;D
so finally we gonna meet up again bro...to me it was a dream sitting next to u on the stage and having lettil chat while LEE PRIEST and WAYNE having thier LONG speech ;)

Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: emn1964 on September 24, 2007, 11:35:28 AM
Enough already

LMAO--I'll tell YOU when it's been enough...
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: knny187 on September 24, 2007, 02:01:14 PM
i respect ur Taste, and i beleive every one has his own taste and this is my taste ;D check out the new look of my NINJA ZX-10r......... i just fixed the side PIG MIRROR...



Damn...can you see anything in those?

The stock ones are hard enough
Title: Re: PDI or IFBB...............?!
Post by: Sami The Black-smith on September 24, 2007, 03:29:13 PM
Damn...can you see anything in those?

The stock ones are hard enough

 yeap... the good thing in it is the Mirrors are angled, it can show the 2nd line and even some of the 3rd line!! but of course they look small.. but most the time i do turn my face jus to make sure ;)