PDI or IFBB...............?!

[aliamini]

Sami, there's no hate and I'm not mad.  I said you were a good bodybuilder.  But this is what you said:

 looking at the latest shows of the IFBB and i asked my self IS IT TOUGH to be with these guys   
to be honest, is it ME becoming that GOOD, or is it some top PROs started to fade and look not that good any more ( i guess Both)   after D. Henry placing at the last show i knew IFBB started to take the right way on the average guys like me and judging fairly......so in a moment it came to my mind and thoughts PDI or IFBB....?!  i wish some guys not to take it wrong and think that i am aiming for IFBB   i am committed to PDI the whole 2007 and i am going no where




You are basically bragging that you are better than the some of the Top Pro's.  All I'm saying is to prove it by competing in the IFBB against these TOP IFBB Pro.  Also reading back, Shawn Ray pretty much said the same thing I'm saying.

You can fool yourself or disagree, but regardless, you'll never be able to prove yourself as a top bodybuilder unless you're competing against the best.  The IFBB is where they compete and that's where you have to go.

We know that and we are working on it … so stop bringing up this subject in every Sami post … as for the atlatic city he could have easily paced in the top 3 if he participated … don’t judge by the pix posted … cause if he was going to do the show it would have been a whole different ball game …

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

We know that and we are working on it … so stop bringing up this subject in every Sami post … as for the atlatic city he could have easily paced in the top 3 if he participated … don’t judge by the pix posted … cause if he was going to do the show it would have been a whole different ball game …

You just made my point about being a bragging backseat bodybuilder, Deputy Dipshit........  

[aliamini]

I shouldn’t brag about what I am doing … u should brag of what u r doing and how u look like … keep up the good work …

Sami … where did u get those pants from???

[Monster81]

10% off @ samifashon.com

[rudylrichards]

We know that and we are working on it … so stop bringing up this subject in every Sami post … as for the atlatic city he could have easily paced in the top 3 if he participated … don’t judge by the pix posted … cause if he was going to do the show it would have been a whole different ball game …

Aliamini, Vince just owned the crap outta you, lol.  I brought his point up also.  Sami has a very good physique, no denying that.  The problem with saying "...he could have easily placed in the top 3 if he participated..." is very disrespectful to the other pros. You're saying he'd beat melvin, who granted wasn't at his best but is one of the top 5 guys in the sport (at least last yr). If Sami can be him easily, he'd be top 5 in the O easily.  In that case and with his marketability, he'd make alot more than $60,000 a yr (might be wrong but I think that's what he said he made). 

[BEAST 8692]

looking at the latest shows of the IFBB and i asked my self IS IT TOUGH to be with these guys  
to be honest, is it ME becoming that GOOD, or is it some top PROs started to fade and look not that good any more ( i guess Both)

 after D. Henry placing at the last show i knew IFBB started to take the right way on the average guys like me and judging fairly......so in a moment it came to my mind and thoughts PDI or IFBB....?!  i wish some guys not to take it wrong and think that i am aiming for IFBB   i am committed to PDI the whole 2007 and i am going no where

 Pics been taken 3days ago:

don't know if this has been mentioned (can't be fuked looking through this thread) but you might aswell get your ass back to the ifbb because pdi is going nowhere fast.

you might choose to stay with pdi 2007 as if someone gives a fuk, but you're in for a dissapointing year if that's the case and all you're doing is stalling any possible career you might have and alienating yourself from the people that will make or break it.

btw, sami, all due respect, you're not fooling anyone. you chose pdi because you knew you couldn't cut it with the ifbb. scared move imo and somewhat delusional in the fact that, if you can't cut it with the ifbb then you aint gunna cut it period.



the pdi is going to fold

[emn1964]

  DIDNT i tell u i dont want to see u in my threads and i will ignor ur posts??!!  feel  a shame OLD MAN.. you are NOT well comed at all coz ur brain is Fu----

  PLZ wear ur 1970 Optical Glasses and look at my post that u QUOTED i said 5k that means $5000 = 1,889.75 Bahraini Dinars so this amount covers my (FOOD, SUPPLEMENTS,MASSAGE TREATMENTS etc.)  for about 3 months....then i do have a normal lifestyle which allow me to have Govorment job plus i do part time job as personal training SO OLD MAN if u didnt get hope u got it now and GET LOST FROM MY THREAD if u have little shame  

So, does that 5,000 also cover your drugs?  Or does a "sponsor" pay for them too?  Just curious.

[Cleanest Natural]

Aliamini, Vince just owned the crap outta you, lol.  I brought his point up also.  Sami has a very good physique, no denying that.  The problem with saying "...he could have easily placed in the top 3 if he participated..." is very disrespectful to the other pros. You're saying he'd beat melvin, who granted wasn't at his best but is one of the top 5 guys in the sport (at least last yr). If Sami can be him easily, he'd be top 5 in the O easily.  In that case and with his marketability, he'd make alot more than $60,000 a yr (might be wrong but I think that's what he said he made). 

u know ...u talk so much    shit to one of the best contest prep guys/nutritionists   around..I'll  take it u can post a few pics of yourself or athletes u trained        to shut me up.

[rudylrichards]

u know ...u talk so much    shit to one of the best contest prep guys/nutritionists   around..I'll  take it u can post a few pics of yourself or athletes u trained        to shut me up.

u Know ...u make no sense   Who am I talking shit to . Post a few pics of myself or athletes I train to shut you up    who are you and why should i care about shutting you up?? No, I don't fel like posting any pics to shut you up but if you post pics of you or guys you train I'll gladly do the same.  And you won't have to shut afterwards, this is an opinion forum genious  .. I'm merely pointing out to Aliamini, regardless of who he is, that it's disrespectful to say he'd easily place 3rd in a show like AC, beating guys like Melvin and the others behind him if he wanted to. 

Or

Are you pissed because i said he got owned.  Vince made a point, he tried to counter Vinces point, in doing so, he made Vinces argument even stronger.  haven't been around GB that much but enought to know that in GB terms that's called owned  and that's what i pointed out:-*. 

[Cleanest Natural]

u Know ...u make no sense   Who am I talking shit to . Post a few pics of myself or athletes I train to shut you up    who are you and why should i care about shutting you up?? No, I don't fel like posting any pics to shut you up but if you post pics of you or guys you train I'll gladly do the same.  And you won't have to shut afterwards, this is an opinion forum genious  .. I'm merely pointing out to Aliamini, regardless of who he is, that it's disrespectful to say he'd easily place 3rd in a show like AC, beating guys like Melvin and the others behind him if he wanted to. 

Or

Are you pissed because i said he got owned.  Vince made a point, he tried to counter Vinces point, in doing so, he made Vinces argument even stronger.  haven't been around GB that much but enought to know that in GB terms that's called owned  and that's what i pointed out:-*. 

[SteelePegasus]

Sevastase you are a piece of euro fag dog shit..and those are your good points

[Monster81]

savastase is natural

[rudylrichards]

Ok, I respect that, I give credit.  In the 1st pic you have a very good physique, lots of potential.  In the 2nd pic, lets just say you should keep those private sessions private  (just a joke).

Be carefull what you ask for right, by that, I mean, i said if you post pics I'd post pics and you did.  However, I'm not gonna post  pics, sorry.  I think it's very rude for me to do that on Sami's thread.  Lets give him the respect and keep the thread about him and his decision as opposed to you and I posting pics trying to out to each other.  Besides i' embarrass you if I did  (having some FUN like sami said earlier - just so there's no language barrier, that was a joke, don't take this too serious)

I know you'll probably think I'm bs, and you have a right to because I challenged you (after u challenged me) you stepped up and I backed down.

[Monster81]

Ok, I respect that, I give credit.  In the 1st pic you have a very good physique, lots of potential.  In the 2nd pic, lets just say you should keep those private sessions private  (just a joke).

Be carefull what you ask for right, by that, I mean, i said if you post pics I'd post pics and you did.  However, I'm not gonna post  pics, sorry.  I think it's very rude for me to do that on Sami's thread.  Lets give him the respect and keep the thread about him and his decision as opposed to you and I posting pics trying to out to each other.  Besides i' embarrass you if I did  (having some FUN like sami said earlier - just so there's no language barrier, that was a joke, don't take this too serious)

I know you'll probably think I'm bs, and you have a right to because I challenged you (after u challenged me) you stepped up and I backed down.

now quit bein a cowered and post some comparison pics

[rudylrichards]

now quit bein a cowered and post some comparison pics

This is becoming quite funny, are you serious?? I was asked to post a pic to shut savatese up.. I don't care about shutting him up. I didn't think he would post pics like most ppl and thought his argument as to why I should post pics was really weak. I  post on this topic because I thoguht it was disrespectful to the ifbb pros.  I never get the point of telling someone to post their pics in order to state their opinion.  Whether i'm 1/2 his size or 2x his size, what the point    

If me posting pics was relevant to the topic or if this was his thread I would.  Rodney post his pic's and that was cool, they're promoting the same thing and competing against each other. I'm not competing against savatese.

[slaveboy1980]

PDI+IFBB=olive oil

[dr.chimps]

Sevastase you are a piece of euro fag dog shit..and those are your good points

LOL. Not the words I would have used, but the sentiments are the same. 

/you are such a douche bag

[titusisback]

WHEN u talk like a GENTELMAN then i will answer your questions

What was wrong with the way I asked you the question? The fact that you feel defensive is of course because you don't WANT to answer the question. Truth hurts, doesn't it?

[slaveboy1980]

I shouldn’t brag about what I am doing … u should brag of what u r doing and how u look like … keep up the good work …

Sami … where did u get those pants from???

i think sami has a time machine back to the early 90s.

[theworm]

I have him in 6th if he did the Atlantic City Pro.  No way would he have beaten Cormier.


At the O?  no way top ten!


Listen to Shawn, he is very smart (when it comes to BB).

[Tre]

Also reading back, Shawn Ray pretty much said the same thing I'm saying.

Plus, back when you were in Jr ROTC, you had the same flattop haircut as Shawn was sporting at that time. 

[Rodney St. Cloud]

 whats up everybody I just back from a stripping gig at a club. Yo the place was fucking packed to the gills with biotches. I decided to check out the forum and just saw all the fussing going on. I just thought let me and some fuel to the fire. By the way here are a few pics exactly 3weeks out from the Norwegian show.
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 Whats up Sami cant wait until 3weeks its going to be a real battle of champions I promise you!!!

Something to think about.
     now that Wayne Demilias P.D.I. is officially over in th U.S.A.. I was wondering if the athletes that promised Wayne that they would compete in the P.D.I., but did not because the I.F.B.B. offered them small contracts, guest posing, Pro cards, etc. I was wondering if they are saying Ha Ha I am glad that I did not go over, Or are they feeling a bit nervous because if the I.F.B.B. gave them these wonderful things,  small contracts, guest posing, a promised Pro cards, etc, to keep the athletes from going over to the P.D.I.. Now that the P.D.I. is over with whats to stop the I.F.B.B. from pulling out of those deals, or promises. what is the athletes going to do, Now where are they going to go?

Rodney St. Cloud   

[Monster81]

we hav the same punch bag the the gym

[Atlantic]

Aliamini, Vince just owned the crap outta you, lol.  I brought his point up also.  Sami has a very good physique, no denying that.  The problem with saying "...he could have easily placed in the top 3 if he participated..." is very disrespectful to the other pros. You're saying he'd beat melvin, who granted wasn't at his best but is one of the top 5 guys in the sport (at least last yr). If Sami can be him easily, he'd be top 5 in the O easily.  In that case and with his marketability, he'd make alot more than $60,000 a yr (might be wrong but I think that's what he said he made). 

To me sami looks better that JOJ and Darrem Charles,, Jonnie is to thick even thicker than his frame that’s why he shows a bit blocky and unnecessarily wide

As for darrem he lacks quad size and his physique is very small and still needs more size; condition wise he is good but so is sami.

Melvin Anthony, he said bodybuilding is pose to pose so

f/double bi  Melvin
f/lat spread  Melvin
side chest  Sami
r/double bi  tie (Melvin has a better back but Sami rules in the condition and has better hams and calves)
r/lat spread  tie (same as above)
ab & thigh  Sami all the way
MM  Sami

So I guess ya sami could have beaten Melvin if you judge it the way Melvin judges the show.  No disrespect

QT &CC weren’t even close to a hard condition just cause they are elite bodybuilders doesn’t mean they are unbeatable, they didn’t come in showing the ultimate best so no they couldn’t have beaten sami.


I don’t think it was hard for sami to place top 3.  maybe top 6 cause he is not famous and judges don’t know him; but to be fare and judge the show like it should have been judges he could easily made top 3 and Melvin should have been in the top 3 as well.

My 2c
 

[emn1964]

To me sami looks better that JOJ and Darrem Charles,, Jonnie is to thick even thicker than his frame that’s why he shows a bit blocky and unnecessarily wide

As for darrem he lacks quad size and his physique is very small and still needs more size; condition wise he is good but so is sami.

Melvin Anthony, he said bodybuilding is pose to pose so

f/double bi  Melvin
f/lat spread  Melvin
side chest  Sami
r/double bi  tie (Melvin has a better back but Sami rules in the condition and has better hams and calves)
r/lat spread  tie (same as above)
ab & thigh  Sami all the way
MM  Sami

So I guess ya sami could have beaten Melvin if you judge it the way Melvin judges the show.  No disrespect

QT &CC weren’t even close to a hard condition just cause they are elite bodybuilders doesn’t mean they are unbeatable, they didn’t come in showing the ultimate best so no they couldn’t have beaten sami.


I don’t think it was hard for sami to place top 3.  maybe top 6 cause he is not famous and judges don’t know him; but to be fare and judge the show like it should have been judges he could easily made top 3 and Melvin should have been in the top 3 as well.

My 2c

It's nearly impossible to say that Sami or JOJ is better than one or the other when THEY ARE NOT ON STAGE TOGETHER.  That's where competitors are judged.  Not in pictures.  I've been to shows and then seen pics later and the pics sometimes don't look like they did live in person.