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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: El Diablo Blanco on October 01, 2007, 07:04:05 AM
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In this month's MuscleFag Kamali stated that he wondered how Milos was able to take bodybuilders and help them add 20 pounds of muscle in a year and now knows his secret. So what is this secret?
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10iu exta GH
10iu extra slin
and a bucket of oil
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which bodybuilders has gained 20 pounds of muscle in a year with milos?
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Snake OilTM
'Zactly!
Milos' special aminos will add at least 20 lbs of muscle to any pro bodybuilder's frame in a matter of months! :D
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maybe that last supplement of him make people gain 20 lbs.
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which bodybuilders has gained 20 pounds of muscle in a year with milos?
maybe he was talking about the jap and the nigerian.
the nigerian is to narrow to do any real damage (shows in the front double bi). his structure isnt big enough.
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I N S U L I N ;D
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I N S U L I N ;D
Shawn did you ever use insulin when you competed? You had a pretty rock hard and veiny look which doesn't jive with the insulin-built physiques of today.
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Shawn did you ever use insulin when you competed? You had a pretty rock hard and veiny look which doesn't jive with the insulin-built physiques of today.
dont think he will answer this one !
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Why would I not answer this?
I've Never used it and never had an intrest in it :-\
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thats why the 90's where the best. no slin
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Why would I not answer this?
I've Never used it and never had an intrest in it :-\
what were your typical steroid dosages ?
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Why would I not answer this?
I've Never used it and never had an intrest in it :-\
How much test did you take back in 92?
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'Zactly!
Milos' special aminos will add at least 20 lbs of muscle to any pro bodybuilder's frame in a matter of months! :D
Where can I acquire this miracle substance, it must be rather expensive but I'm looking to get swole
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You guys crack me up
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You guys crack me up
sorry Shawn you haven't answered my question to my satisfaction...
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If Kamali knew the secrets, and how to use them, don't you think he would use them himself in order to get in shape for a contest and have an attempt at winning a pro show? :-\
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Well, next time you see me, come up and ask me :o
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Well, next time you see me, come up and ask me :o
Me lives in Ireland... can you pm me the answer please?
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Let me know when you're in Cali 8)
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Shawn...do you think Slin is making these guys look too watery?
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I think the gurus using the Athletes as Experiements are partially responsible.
The Athletes themselves who dont know what the hell their taking and why are also responsible.
Of course the excessive GH and Insulin dont help the issue either :-\
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Real men don't need insulin >:(
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Shawn....I think most of us just can't figure how the dry, hardness, veiny look of the 90's has almost disappeared.
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Hope this helps: GURU's, GH & INSULIN!
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I think the gurus using the Athletes as Experiements are partially responsible.
The Athletes themselves who dont know what the hell their taking and why are also responsible.
Of course the excessive GH and Insulin dont help the issue either :-\
For once I totally agree with Shawn. WTF ???
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The world is coming to an end :o
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The world is coming to an end :o
;D This doesn't mean we're buddies now. >:(
Oh one more thing. Notice Shawn said "excessive GH". 4 iu's is plenty for anyone.
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;D This doesn't mean we're buddies now. >:(
Oh one more thing. Notice Shawn said "excessive GH". 4 iu's is plenty for anyone.
4IU's per day? (and for how long 7 days? straight for a total of 28) or Mon-Fri type for total of 20IU's a week
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4IU's per day? (and for how long 7 days? straight for a total of 28) or Mon-Fri type for total of 20IU's a week
Mon thru Fri would be fine.
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Mon thru Fri would be fine.
GH don't work on the weekends foo!
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Mon thru Fri would be fine.
cool...
i was told that 2IU's a day (Mon-Fri) for a total of 10 a week
is very conservative.
but now since your saying 4IU's a day (Mon-Fri) is a good ceiling, it really puts things
in perspective.
Thanks
also what's the recommended on-time for that? im guessing as long as any other Cycle? 10-12 weeks?
any more would be detrimental?
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In this month's MuscleFag Kamali stated that he wondered how Milos was able to take bodybuilders and help them add 20 pounds of muscle in a year and now knows his secret. So what is this secret?
20lbs of solid real muscle is physiologically impossible....period!
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cool...
i was told that 2IU's a day (Mon-Fri) for a total of 10 a week
is very conservative.
but now since your saying 4IU's a day (Mon-Fri) is a good ceiling, it really puts things
in perspective.
Thanks
also what's the recommended on-time for that? im guessing as long as any other Cycle? 10-12 weeks?
any more would be detrimental?
If you are young then only do it for a show or whatever your goal is. If you are old go with 1 to 2 iu's for life. :)
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If you are young then only do it for a show or whatever your goal is. If you are old go with 1 to 2 iu's for life. :)
so 1 to 2 IU's s mainly for the "rejuvination" effect that alot of older people use it for?
do you have to be in the 3-4 Range for best results?
i've heard a few things on the topic of GH, just wanted to clarify.
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so 1 to 2 IU's s mainly for the "rejuvination" effect that alot of older people use it for?
do you have to be in the 3-4 Range for best results?
i've heard a few things on the topic of GH, just wanted to clarify.
I think that GH is basically an expensive fat burner anyway. Save your money for other things and yes 1 to 2 ius is rejuv. purposes.
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Real men don't need insulin >:(
just grams of aas.
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You guys crack me up
oh yeah, we all forgot the "born again" christian denounces any form of drug use!!
the holy shawn ray would have never have used any illegal substances..
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maybe that last supplement of him make people gain 20 lbs.
Mars, learn to speak english ya little yellow delivery boy.
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I never said I was "HOLY"
I barely went to church or had a relationship with Jesus Christ while BBing because it was all about me.
I only found Christ when I stopped BBing and studied His written word to see what I was doing and did was wrong and selfish.
That said, I dont condemn anyone for what they believe, do or where they are at with their personal relationship with Christ.
I'm not a Holy Roller, simply a BELIEVER! ;D
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I only found Christ when I stopped BBing and studied His written word
he didn't write it. hope that helps.
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Mars, learn to speak english ya little yellow delivery boy.
was there something, "grundle"?
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And Moses didn't Part the Red Sea but we all know WHO did :-*
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WOW, some honest answers from a pro. Thanks Shawn
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I'm guilty of bringing MRP shakes to church. :-\ Sermons get long and gotta eat. ;D
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And Moses didn't Part the Red Sea but we all know WHO did :-*
Red Sea = Sasha?
;D
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Shawn you know how much I hate you and I think you are a pathetic person but you definitly had one of the greatest physique to ever exist
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Shawn you know how much I hate you and I think you are a pathetic person but you definitly had one of the greatest physique to ever exist
There's a compliment in there somewhere. ;D
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I never said I was "HOLY"
I barely went to church or had a relationship with Jesus Christ while BBing because it was all about me.
I only found Christ when I stopped BBing and studied His written word to see what I was doing and did was wrong and selfish.
That said, I dont condemn anyone for what they believe, do or where they are at with their personal relationship with Christ.
I'm not a Holy Roller, simply a BELIEVER! ;D
why wouldn't you answer about your previous aas usage? it is in the past, before you found Christ, right? Are you not allowed to talk about the life you had before Christ? or are you scared you may implicate yourself in some illegal doings the DEA may be looking for?
ah, whatever, you seem like a huge hypocrit to me anyways, always looking out for yourself, while yammering on about God and loving one another and forgiveness. Speaking of forgiveness, how is your mom?
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If you are young then only do it for a show or whatever your goal is. If you are old go with 1 to 2 iu's for life. :)
That dose is to high...I would say 1/2 I.u per day for life, To feel younger etc..
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why wouldn't you answer about your previous aas usage? it is in the past, before you found Christ, right? Are you not allowed to talk about the life you had before Christ? or are you scared you may implicate yourself in some illegal doings the DEA may be looking for?
ah, whatever, you seem like a huge hypocrit to me anyways, always looking out for yourself, while yammering on about God and loving one another and forgiveness. Speaking of forgiveness, how is your mom?
there is a problem, chaos?
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there is a problem, chaos?
I don't really like hypocrits.
Is that OK with you Al-Jazeera?
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Hope this helps: GURU's, GH & INSULIN!
Translation. . . no hard work, no diet compliance and lots of drugs. .vs. hard training, good diet and minimal drugs in the 70-mid 90's
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nice one. . . :)
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I love how ordinary muscleheads are happy about sharing their AAS dosages, but the guys that everyone KNOW uses AAS are anally secretive about their doses. ::)
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That dose is to high...I would say 1/2 I.u per day for life, To feel younger etc..
Wrong. A good friend of mine is on this dose and has been for three years. Blood tests have been excellent.
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I don't really like hypocrits.
Is that OK with you Al-Jazeera?
maybe shawn don't like to tell the truth and suffer.
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maybe shawn don't like to tell the truth and suffer.
the truth will set him free, ask jeebus and his swallowers
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Wrong. A good friend of mine is on this dose and has been for three years. Blood tests have been excellent.
A freind of mine is doing pretty well @ 1/2 I.U per day...However, After all these busts the shit is going up in price big time...So we will have to scale back our usage..Big Pharma is kicking our asses..I would use 2 i.U. however, it's two expensiveto do so...I saying 1/2 I.U from an economic perspective..
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A freind of mine is doing pretty well @ 1/2 I.U per day...However, After all these busts the shit is going up in price big time...So we will have to scale back our usage..Big Pharma is kicking our asses..I would use 2 i.U. however, it's two expensiveto do so...I saying 1/2 I.U from an economic perspective..
I see. Since I have no experience with that low of a dose I can't comment, although if your friend feels he is getting results from it then that is all that matters.
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Disgusted (feels weird calling you that ;) ) Do you think it is possible for a top IFBB bb to walk away from the sport with absolutely no medical issues or regimes that he must follow to enjoy quality of life?
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Disgusted (feels weird calling you that ;) ) Do you think it is possible for a top IFBB bb to walk away from the sport with absolutely no medical issues or regimes that he must follow to enjoy quality of life?
Yes.
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Well...
1- Kamali and I talked and there is realistic possibility that Disgusted (Magnum) and myself together will try to bring the best out of King.
As always - I love challenges and I like when people say - so and so is finished or something (whatever that might be) is impossible...
King did find out few things about my programs but as always by the time someone else "translates" what I said - it could be "lost in translation"...
He did few things right but also few things wrong for Montreal and final result was not as he expected...
Next time around - hopefully he would do it 100% and do it the right way - for the love of the sport as he doesn't have anything to prove to nobody else - but himself...and when he focuses on GOOD rather than BAD - good thing will come his way...
Barabara is just days away from giving a birth to their first child and I wish him all the happiness in the world - as only newborn can bring that...
2- All the talk about INSULIN is getting kind of old...as 'experts" fail to realize that IF used properly INSULIN could indeed be not just "not dangerous" but also healthy to any bodybuilder - competitor!
Used wisely INSULIN (strongest anabolic hormone) indeed is your best friend if you know how to manipulate it and not your worst enemy - as ignorant people think...
But, I would be first to tell everyone - don't touch it IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT...as it could and will kill you...
3- And as far as our "born again" - I will say that I doubt that he ever used INSULIN in his career - and at one point (2003) I did talk to him that IF he made a comeback maybe he would want to know how to use it...and at that time I was ready to share the info with him...However, he decided NOT to compete so that never happened...(not that we made a plan or anything...but knowing that he looked so spectacular WITHOUT IT I told him to imagine what he would look like if he packs few more pounds only in specific areas of his body where maybe extra size is needed).
Regardless of NOT respecting him as a person - for obvious reasons (not needed to be told again...) I always respected his physique.
However, I thought that from 1987 when he turned pro he didn't improve as much as he could...and IF HE DID - possibly he would have won few Mr. Olympia titles.
In 15 years he stayed pretty much the same...and considering that he did everything else BUT INSULIN - I believe that he could be way better than he was...
4- I want to congratulate all of my guys for great showing...Dennis shocked the world and IF there was the justice he could have won the whole show...
Johnnie was little bit overlooked, little bit less aggressive as I wanted him to be...and actually HAD TOO MUCH GLYCOGEN stored in the muscle which made him appear less sharper as AC...
With each and every comparison he was getting better and better and IF he had just couple of more - he would have also given Jay, Victor and Dennis run for their money...
Hidetada Yamagishi was absolutely spectacular and IMO best conditioned guy on that stage...
With all improvements he made over the year - he was at his all time best and certainly I saw him deserving of comparisons with Melvin, David, Silvio, Ronnie...
Why he wasn't compared - puzzles me almost as much as WHY were the judges ONLY people in the whole building NOT wanting to see Dennis next to Jay and Victor, Johnnie next to Melvin and Ronnie, Hide next to Silvio and David...me next to Shawn and Bob...
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Milos.....
do you really blame Jay?
Hell...I don't. It was probably the smartest thing he did all weekend.
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Milos.....
do you really blame Jay?
Hell...I don't. It was probably the smartest thing he did all weekend.
"Runaway Jay"
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Well...
1- Kamali and I talked and there is realistic possibility that Disgusted (Magnum) and myself together will try to bring the best out of King.
As always - I love challenges and I like when people say - so and so is finished or something (whatever that might be) is impossible...
King did find out few things about my programs but as always by the time someone else "translates" what I said - it could be "lost in translation"...
He did few things right but also few things wrong for Montreal and final result was not as he expected...
Next time around - hopefully he would do it 100% and do it the right way - for the love of the sport as he doesn't have anything to prove to nobody else - but himself...and when he focuses on GOOD rather than BAD - good thing will come his way...
Barabara is just days away from giving a birth to their first child and I wish him all the happiness in the world - as only newborn can bring that...
2- All the talk about INSULIN is getting kind of old...as 'experts" fail to realize that IF used properly INSULIN could indeed be not just "not dangerous" but also healthy to any bodybuilder - competitor!
Used wisely INSULIN (strongest anabolic hormone) indeed is your best friend if you know how to manipulate it and not your worst enemy - as ignorant people think...
But, I would be first to tell everyone - don't touch it IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT...as it could and will kill you...
3- And as far as our "born again" - I will say that I doubt that he ever used INSULIN in his career - and at one point (2003) I did talk to him that IF he made a comeback maybe he would want to know how to use it...and at that time I was ready to share the info with him...However, he decided NOT to compete so that never happened...(not that we made a plan or anything...but knowing that he looked so spectacular WITHOUT IT I told him to imagine what he would look like if he packs few more pounds only in specific areas of his body where maybe extra size is needed).
Regardless of NOT respecting him as a person - for obvious reasons (not needed to be told again...) I always respected his physique.
However, I thought that from 1987 when he turned pro he didn't improve as much as he could...and IF HE DID - possibly he would have won few Mr. Olympia titles.
In 15 years he stayed pretty much the same...and considering that he did everything else BUT INSULIN - I believe that he could be way better than he was...
4- I want to congratulate all of my guys for great showing...Dennis shocked the world and IF there was the justice he could have won the whole show...
Johnnie was little bit overlooked, little bit less aggressive as I wanted him to be...and actually HAD TOO MUCH GLYCOGEN stored in the muscle which made him appear less sharper as AC...
With each and every comparison he was getting better and better and IF he had just couple of more - he would have also given Jay, Victor and Dennis run for their money...
Hidetada Yamagishi was absolutely spectacular and IMO best conditioned guy on that stage...
With all improvements he made over the year - he was at his all time best and certainly I saw him deserving of comparisons with Melvin, David, Silvio, Ronnie...
Why he wasn't compared - puzzles me almost as much as WHY were the judges ONLY people in the whole building NOT wanting to see Dennis next to Jay and Victor, Johnnie next to Melvin and Ronnie, Hide next to Silvio and David...me next to Shawn and Bob...
Your assessment of JJ with too much glycogen stored sums up my insulin argurment perfectly, IMO, fine offseason, but one miscalculation and you immediatly spill. With insulin comes carbs with carbs comes glycogen..too much and you spill. Too difficult to peak or get really really shredded, Hide was an exeption......and speaking of Hide, you guaranteed 20lbs of muscle and he supposedly came in at 175.....was he 155 before :-\??
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Your assessment of JJ with too much glycogen stored sums up my insulin argurment perfectly, IMO, fine offseason, but one miscalculation and you immediatly spill. With insulin comes carbs with carbs comes glycogen..too much and you spill. Too difficult to peak or get really really shredded, Hide was an exeption......and speaking of Hide, you guaranteed 20lbs of muscle and he supposedly came in at 175.....was he 155 before :-\??
175? How is that even possible?
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175? How is that even possible?
typo, Coach is trying to make teh funny ::)
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Well....I know quite a few of the weights & even ages were off on the telecast.
Maybe Milos can clear up what his actual weight was
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175? How is that even possible?
I have no idea unless 3'8.....but he got fucked royal.
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typo, Coach is trying to make teh funny ::)
No...he was seriously listed at 175, I couldn't believe it myself, I personally had him in the top 10 with Henry.
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No...he was seriously listed at 175, I couldn't believe it myself, I personally had him in the top 10 with Henry.
I know but you posted this
and speaking of Hide, you guaranteed 20lbs of muscle and he supposedly came in at 175.....was he 155 before :-\??
and it sounds sarcastic/ attempting to be humorous, "was he 155 before", you and I both know he weighs more than that
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and it sounds sarcastic/ attempting to be humorous, "was he 155 before", you and I both know he weighs more than that
Oh, that ;D
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Oh, that ;D
"Oh, that" :P
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Your assessment of JJ with too much glycogen stored sums up my insulin argurment perfectly, IMO, fine offseason, but one miscalculation and you immediatly spill. With insulin comes carbs with carbs comes glycogen..too much and you spill. Too difficult to peak or get really really shredded, Hide was an exeption......and speaking of Hide, you guaranteed 20lbs of muscle and he supposedly came in at 175.....was he 155 before :-\??
Too much glycogen and you spill?
Where will you find glycogen INSIDE or OUTSIDE of cells?
I didn't mean AT ALL that JOJ spilled over...as he would be first one to tell you - he was dry and happy with his condition...
But, being that for the first time ever - we were going ALL OUT and storing as much glycogen as we could (being that at Olympia you have to have something extra special in order to make your mark) - and Johnnie just have SOOOOO MUCH MUSCLE...by the time we realized how full he was - he was ready to explode...
Some people are better off being somewhat "flat" as they would appear sharper...while others are exactly the opposite.
In his last comparison JOJ was close to being exactly the way I would have want him to be...and another 2 or 3 comparisons would have made him 1998 version of Ronnie (as similar happened to Ronnie in 1998 Mr. Olympia - who appeared softer in the beginning of the show - thus he wasn't even called out with the top six...but after few comparisons he started to get tighter and tighter and by the end he was absolutely superb - winning the show as complete underdog with absolutely spectacular condition...)
In Montreal JOJ was little under-carbed and thus didn't really seem as muscular is he really is...In AC we did present bigger package and many people realized how dangerous JOJ could be...so normally for the O we were going "all out"...I will post some photos later to show what I mean by dry but overloaded with glycogen...
As far as danger of using carbs to get super-shredded - as I said on the radio - easiest thing in the world is to bring competitor on the stage DRY...but being dry is not ONLY requirement.
Deplete into the show - and you will be dry...very, very easily...
Just about everyone does it still at the world championships and other amateur shows world wide..
But, when you try to get the best condition on the stage with:
1- most muscles earned and hardly any lost in process of dieting
2- super low body fat
3- as much intracellular water
4-least amount of extracellular water
5- As much GLYCOGEN (as NOW I am even more convinced - is NOT necessarily the truth - as some look better semi-loaded with glycogen..)...etc...etc - things get little bit more complicated.
Anyway...as far as Hide - he was at his all time best - no question...and mentioning some ridiculous weight of 175 lbs - shows how much you pay attention to everything...
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Too much glycogen and you spill?
Where will you find glycogen INSIDE or OUTSIDE of cells?
I didn't mean AT ALL that JOJ spilled over...as he would be first one to tell you - he was dry and happy with his condition...
But, being that for the first time ever - we were going ALL OUT and storing as much glycogen as we could (being that at Olympia you have to have something extra special in order to make your mark) - and Johnnie just have SOOOOO MUCH MUSCLE...by the time we realized how full he was - he was ready to explode...
Some people are better off being somewhat "flat" as they would appear sharper...while others are exactly the opposite.
In his last comparison JOJ was close to being exactly the way I would have want him to be...and another 2 or 3 comparisons would have made him 1998 version of Ronnie (as similar happened to Ronnie in 1998 Mr. Olympia - who appeared softer in the beginning of the show - thus he wasn't even called out with the top six...but after few comparisons he started to get tighter and tighter and by the end he was absolutely superb - winning the show as complete underdog with absolutely spectacular condition...)
In Montreal JOJ was little under-carbed and thus didn't really seem as muscular is he really is...In AC we did present bigger package and many people realized how dangerous JOJ could be...so normally for the O we were going "all out"...I will post some photos later to show what I mean by dry but overloaded with glycogen...
As far as danger of using carbs to get super-shredded - as I said on the radio - easiest thing in the world is to bring competitor on the stage DRY...but being dry is not ONLY requirement.
Deplete into the show - and you will be dry...very, very easily...
Just about everyone does it still at the world championships and other amateur shows world wide..
But, when you try to get the best condition on the stage with:
1- most muscles earned and hardly any lost in process of dieting
2- super low body fat
3- as much intracellular water
4-least amount of extracellular water
5- As much GLYCOGEN (as NOW I am even more convinced - is NOT necessarily the truth - as some look better semi-loaded with glycogen..)...etc...etc - things get little bit more complicated.
Anyway...as far as Hide - he was at his all time best - no question...and mentioning some ridiculous weight of 175 lbs - shows how much you pay attention to everything...
Milos..the Olympia broadcast listed Hide at 175....what did he actually weigh?
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Yaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnn nnn. ::)
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Holy crap.....my brain is going to explode... :-[
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Yaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. ::)
do yourself a fat gagger, you'll stay up, just like the old days :)
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Yaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. ::)
Brilliant post of even more brilliant mind...
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Brilliant post of even more brilliant mind...
Hes jealous, cuz you have a successful gym. And hes just eaking out a living, with his contest thingy in denver.... :D
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Very Successful GYM ::)
Congrats ;D
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Very Successful GYM ::)
Congrats ;D
have you been by to see how crowded it is lately? :o
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Very Successful GYM ::)
Congrats ;D
jealous as the day is long
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Very Successful GYM ::)
Congrats ;D
I think ill order some stuff from palumbo and use kolosium's address to recieve. Has that been done before. ;D
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shawn likes the h8erade . . .
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I think ill order some stuff from palumbo and use kolosium's address to recieve. Has that been done before. ;D
are you trying to tell us that Shawn bought steroids in the past and have them delivered at a gym ? ;D
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are you trying to tell us that Shawn bought steroids in the past and have them delivered at a gym ? ;D
not just A gym, the K
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are you trying to tell us that Shawn bought steroids in the past and have them delivered at a gym ? ;D
Kinda, maybe, not sure, coulda, woulda shoulda.... :D
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Yaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. ::)
haha, Shawn owns Milos' mind yet again.
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not just A gym, the K
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o
What a little fucker ;D
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Very Successful GYM ::)
Congrats ;D
Known WORLDWIDE...official FLEX magazine gym for more than 5 years...new mecca of bodybuilding where few 2007 IFBB pro champions trained for their titles...in business for decades (my gym since 1999)...one you tried to get several times with your less than "born again" tactics...and...should I say more?
Oh yeah...one where you were punched in the middle of your workout for being rude to someone who didn't really care for your language and attitude...and same gym you are kicked out from - not once but twice...CONRATS for your MC job (next time maybe you should do your homework and learn that for example Dennis Wolf indeed already entered Mr. Olympia once - last year...so you don't have to embarrass yourself by stating "his first Olympia" in front of many fans who know better...)
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I heard the Bathrooms are really "CLEAN" there and the cost for an Ice Cube is $1.00 ???
Sounds like business is booming, I'll be right down :-*
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see ya tomorrow, Sean :-*
2:45 good for you? oh, wait, you couldn't get through the front door, hahahahaahhahahahahaha
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Milos aren't you worried that you could receive Shawn's steroids at your gym ?
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Next year Milos for MC.......NOT!
Hope the suspension (Not to be confused with what you took this morning) is coming along well.
I'll be certain to apologize to Dennis when I see him as he didn't leave much of an impression last year seeing how he was out of the top 15 :-\
Looks like we'll be hearing and seeing alot more from this guy, provided Milos doesn't screw that up for him with the I to G and the H :-*
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Next year Milos for MC.......NOT!
Hope the suspension (Not to be confused with what you took this morning) is coming along well.
I'll be certain to apologize to Dennis when I see him as he didn't leave much of an impression last year seeing how he was out of the top 15 :-\
Looks like we'll be hearing and seeing alot more from this guy, provided Milos doesn't screw that up for him with the I to G and the H :-*
would that be your I to G and the H that you ordered from Polumbbo?
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Hope the suspension (Not to be confused with what you took this morning) is coming along well.
Why would Milos give two shits about a "suspension"? He doesn't compete anymore. ::)
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would that be your I to G and the H that you ordered from Polumbbo?
is that what he had delivered to the Koloseum gym because he is too much of a pussy to receive it at his house ?
was that the "package" ?
steroids and gh ?
or coke ? oups I think that one had something to do with the trunk of a car and his mom :-\
my bad :D
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Next year Milos for MC.......NOT!
Hope the suspension (Not to be confused with what you took this morning) is coming along well.
I'll be certain to apologize to Dennis when I see him as he didn't leave much of an impression last year seeing how he was out of the top 15 :-\
Looks like we'll be hearing and seeing alot more from this guy, provided Milos doesn't screw that up for him with the I to G and the H :-*
Hahahaha, Look what we started. ;D
Any way, Shawn, its been stated you never tried insulin or gh and were a standard gear guy. Is that right???
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is that what he had delivered to the Koloseum gym because he is too much of a pussy to receive it at his house ?
was that the "package" ?
steroids and gh ?
or coke ? oups I think that one had something to do with the trunk of a car and his mom :-\
my bad :D
hhaha I wonder what he had to do to get back on moms good side?
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hhaha I wonder what he had to do to get back on moms good side?
christians forgive each other like the lord Jesus Christ wants them to do
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christians forgive each other like the lord Jesus Christ wants them to do
I don't know, I've known some very religious people that whipped the shit out of their kids when they got out of line........ :-\
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I don't know, I've known some very religious people that whipped the shit out of their kids when they got out of line........ :-\
Can you please change youre avatar? :'( I must be near my period.
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I don't know, I've known some very religious people that whipped the shit out of their kids when they got out of line........ :-\
I've heard that some guys at the church molested childrens
but that's just a rumor, christians would never do that
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I've heard that some guys at the church molested childrens
but that's just a rumor, christians would never do that
Catholic's arent christian, you silly kid.
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Can you please change youre avatar? :'( I must be near my period.
hahahahahahaaaaaaa
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I heard the Bathrooms are really "CLEAN" there and the cost for an Ice Cube is $1.00 ???
Sounds like business is booming, I'll be right down :-*
I hate to dissapoint you but (as your memory failed you again ::) - Kristy's concerned that you are getting too old too quickly is for real) you can't train there...you are "suspended" for life from THE Koloseum...
And YES...we charge for Ice Cubes for people that bring their own protein powder...etc but want to use our blander, ice and cups..
Business have never been better... ;)
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Next year Milos for MC.......NOT!
Hope the suspension (Not to be confused with what you took this morning) is coming along well.
I'll be certain to apologize to Dennis when I see him as he didn't leave much of an impression last year seeing how he was out of the top 15 :-\
Looks like we'll be hearing and seeing alot more from this guy, provided Milos doesn't screw that up for him with the I to G and the H :-*
DAMN ! :o
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I hate to dissapoint you but (as your memory failed you again ::) - Kristy's concerned that you are getting too old too quickly is for real) you can't train there...you are "suspended" for life from THE Koloseum...
And YES...we charge for Ice Cubes for people that bring their own protein powder...etc but want to use our blander, ice and cups..
Business have never been better... ;)
Anyone who takes the time to use ice cubes in a protien drink is a pussy. Just pour in some gasoline and get to the gym. >:(
And dont even get me started on yuppie blender people >:( >:( >:(
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Catholic's arent christian, you silly kid.
I'm not a Catholic (was).....but sorry, Catholics ARE Christians!
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Again Milos, if you say we were not paying attention, then what did Hide weigh if the Olympia listing was wrong?
BTW, I might be down at your gym to train this weekend............don't worry, I'll pay the $15.00 :-\
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Again Milos, if you say we were not paying attention, then what did Hide weigh if the Olympia listing was wrong?
BTW, I might be down at your gym to train this weekend............don't worry, I'll pay the $15.00 :-\
just ask for a week pass ::)
or just sign up and train there a couple times a month, it would be cheaper.
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just ask for a week pass ::)
or just sign up and train there a couple times a month, it would be cheaper.
Hahahahaha....i've pissed Milos off, he ain't giving me nothing for free...LOL!!
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THANK GOD THERE IS MILOS SARCEV TO CLEAR UP THIS INSULIN MYTH BULLSHIT AND TO PUT THAT DUMB BITCH SHAWN RAY IN HIS PLACE.
Milos if youre gym wasnt so far away I would be a sales rep for FREE so you can open up two Koloseums making it two places that bald short fat ass is banned from.
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This is a great thread :D
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im curious what hide weighed as well, he couldnt have been too much over 200lbs.
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The Coach, I'm surprised you thought Hide looked great. If anyone had the 'insulin look' it was him. Unlike JJ his skin wasn't taut on his body. He was ripped but did not have the saran wrap skin. Especially in the back shots the skin looked watery, same with abs (look at the skin folds in transition etc).
JJ looked great, skin was taut, he was full and hard.
Surprised that Kamali and Disgusted consider working with Milos. Hasn't Kamali talked a lot of shit about Milos in the past, especially about the insulin use? I understand it though, personally I think Kamali needs lots of size to hide the relatively poor muscle bellies and structure. Especiallly now with some of the tears (biceps) going down in weight isn't going to help him. Like with Ronnie, going back down doesn't seem to work.
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As far as gurus being to blame for the athletes looking bad, it's not a recent phenomenon. Anyone remember Duchaine?
There were docs/gurus in Europe working with athletes also in the 90s. A friend of mine consulted with a European doc in the mid 90s, someone who supposedly worked with a few famous pros. I remember looking at his notes from his talk with him.
The drug advisers have been around for a loooong time.
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Another thing, I suspect the conditioning has suffered since the athletes nowadays don't push the diuretics as hard as they did in the mid 90s. Back then it was almost common for an athlete to spend the week in a hospital after a show. Lots of close calls and a few deaths.
In 2001 Jay had, according to the drug test, FIVE different diuretics in his system! Yes, his conditioning was great.
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MILOS: 1
SHAWN RAY: 0
So wait, Shawn Ray was punched during his workout? HAHAHAH I've got to hear this story....
Did he:
A) Run like a little girl
B) Threaten a lawsuit
C) Both A and B
D) Piss his pants
E) All of the above
?
Gosh I've never been good at multiple choice!
FOR REAL
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Disgusted (feels weird calling you that ;) ) Do you think it is possible for a top IFBB bb to walk away from the sport with absolutely no medical issues or regimes that he must follow to enjoy quality of life?
Dude, you geared this question wrong because there'll always be one or two who can take the drugs and walk away relatively unscathed......what you should have asked is ---> "are the combination of extreme drugs + excessive doses contributing to the serious medical problems of former pros".....
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Hope the suspension (Not to be confused with what you took this morning) is coming along well.
LMAO!! ;D
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Milos now that the olympia is over maybe you have some time to take on another client, where can I contact you please?
thanks
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MILOS: 1
SHAWN RAY: 0
So wait, Shawn Ray was punched during his workout? HAHAHAH I've got to hear this story....
Did he:
A) Run like a little girl
B) Threaten a lawsuit
C) Both A and B
D) Piss his pants
E) All of the above
?
Gosh I've never been good at multiple choice!
FOR REAL
story goes if i remeber correctly... some big powerlifter guy was using the bench and shawn said "hey i need to use this bench so hurry up im getting ready for the olympia" . the guy said something to shawn and knocked him out.
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story goes if i remeber correctly... some big powerlifter guy was using the bench and shawn said "hey i need to use this bench so hurry up im getting ready for the olympia" . the guy said something to shawn and knocked him out.
Shawn...care to comment???
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MILOS: 1
SHAWN RAY: 0
So wait, Shawn Ray was punched during his workout? HAHAHAH I've got to hear this story....
Did he:
A) Run like a little girl
B) Threaten a lawsuit
C) Both A and B
D) Piss his pants
E) All of the above
?
Gosh I've never been good at multiple choice!
FOR REAL
I want to hear that too.
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Next year Milos for MC.......NOT!
Hope the suspension (Not to be confused with what you took this morning) is coming along well.
I'll be certain to apologize to Dennis when I see him as he didn't leave much of an impression last year seeing how he was out of the top 15 :-\
Looks like we'll be hearing and seeing alot more from this guy, provided Milos doesn't screw that up for him with the I to G and the H :-*
;D
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Next year Milos for MC.......NOT!
Hope the suspension (Not to be confused with what you took this morning) is coming along well.
I'll be certain to apologize to Dennis when I see him as he didn't leave much of an impression last year seeing how he was out of the top 15 :-\
Looks like we'll be hearing and seeing alot more from this guy, provided Milos doesn't screw that up for him with the I to G and the H :-*
Oh no...I am not after your MC job...There is not much you can do in this life - so I really don't need to take one job you are able to do...(poor job - but you are doing something nevertheless...better than nothing. I have just few too many things on my plate...).
Now, my (IFBB) suspension is almost over...and your (test) suspension that is your favorite choice of supplement is certainly something I don't like - if you remember me telling you that (as I was telling you too ease up on that stuff as soon enough Kristy will have few too many complaints...Don't you wish you listened ::)?)
Make sure you apologize to Dennis as it is kind of embarrassing when someone like you doesn't know the fact that Dennis indeed competed last year as well...
As he didn't leave impression for the judges (I wonder why?) I decided to make him look certain way that he could NOT be denied...
He was so much bigger and fuller that he made Ronnie look small :o next to him...so judges actually realized he is standing on that stage (contrary to last year)...
Also don't worry about me screwing up guys...so far I screw so many they are winning titles and shocking the world of bodybuilding with improvements hardly seen on IFBB stage...
Your boy Silvio benefited for few months...I got him new balance and new fullness and size - that he is obviously loosing again...
Differential between his upper and lower body is becoming again MORE APPARENT and by this time next year he'll be hopefully back on the program that got him his best showings this year (Ironman and San Francisco)...
As far as Wolf...Big Bad Wolf...you know how the story goes...you little "red riding hood"... ;D
Be afraid...be very afraid...
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The Coach, I'm surprised you thought Hide looked great. If anyone had the 'insulin look' it was him. Unlike JJ his skin wasn't taut on his body. He was ripped but did not have the saran wrap skin. Especially in the back shots the skin looked watery, same with abs (look at the skin folds in transition etc).
JJ looked great, skin was taut, he was full and hard.
Surprised that Kamali and Disgusted consider working with Milos. Hasn't Kamali talked a lot of shit about Milos in the past, especially about the insulin use? I understand it though, personally I think Kamali needs lots of size to hide the relatively poor muscle bellies and structure. Especiallly now with some of the tears (biceps) going down in weight isn't going to help him. Like with Ronnie, going back down doesn't seem to work.
Hide had some of the best conditioning (compared to most in the show) in the show, great routein great presentation and although the slin got him hard and somewhat vascular, he lacked crisp hardness and striations of pre-insulin days, like all insulin users, he lacked detail and separation in the delt/arm tie ins, legs were huge, but again, lacked detail compared to pre-insulin days. Was he close to being right on for this show...hell yes, the only one who blew him away on conditioning and was truly ripped was David Henry. Hide stands next to Henry and it's lights out in the conditioning department.
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Hide had some of the best conditioning (compared to most in the show) in the show, great routein great presentation and although the slin got him hard and somewhat vascular, he lacked crisp hardness and striations of pre-insulin days, like all insulin users, he lacked detail and separation in the delt/arm tie ins, legs were huge, but again, lacked detail compared to pre-insulin days. Was he close to being right on for this show...hell yes, the only one who blew him away on conditioning and was truly ripped was David Henry. Hide stands next to Henry and it's lights out in the conditioning department.
you are not very bright coach. what is your WAR against insulin about? you obivously havent studied it very closely are you just trying to sound like an expert or something? is that it? you need to stop this cause people who really know what is going on arent buying it and you leading alot of people in the wrong way.
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Again Milos, if you say we were not paying attention, then what did Hide weigh if the Olympia listing was wrong?
BTW, I might be down at your gym to train this weekend............don't worry, I'll pay the $15.00 :-\
Between 215 and 222lbs...
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you are not very bright coach. what is your WAR against insulin about? you obivously havent studied it very closely are you just trying to sound like an expert or something? is that it? you need to stop this cause people who really know what is going on arent buying it and you leading alot of people in the wrong way.
So you think the guys today are more ripped than before slin? Yes, I made my case about the "slin" and can put up hundreds before and after pics to back it up........try and pry your lips from Milos' ass for a second and wake the fuck up.....even when Milos was competing with "slin" he wasn't shredded....damn near perfect symmetry, but not close to being "shredded".
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CAPTAIN SLIN:
Mind explaining why you sent this meltdown PM to me?
HEY YOU STUPIID FUCK YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH ME???? SO WHAT IF IM DIABETIC YOU JISM SUCKER, I STILL OWN YOUR ASS BECAUSE I HAVE A WORLD CLASS BODY ADN HAVE MY PICS IN A RESPECTABLE BODYBUILDING MAGAZINE. SO FUCK YOU >:(
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Between 215 and 222lbs...
That makes more sense.
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CAPTAIN SLIN:
Mind explaining why you sent this meltdown PM to me?
Owned!
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MILOS: 1
SHAWN RAY: 0
So wait, Shawn Ray was punched during his workout? HAHAHAH I've got to hear this story....
Did he:
A) Run like a little girl
B) Threaten a lawsuit
C) Both A and B
D) Piss his pants
E) All of the above
?
Gosh I've never been good at multiple choice!
FOR REAL
C
Ask Greg Reed if D and E also apply...I am not sure...but knowing "the little red riding hood" - I would not be too surprised...
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CAPTAIN SLIN:
Mind explaining why you sent this meltdown PM to me?
dont make stuff up. you keep accusing of me of being a diabetic ??? on every post i make and now youre making up fake personal messages? ask Ron.. I didnt send that
and I thik I can there is seperation in my arms in this picture isnt there coach? I think im holding some water and maybe some fat too but I see seperation and i used insulin for many years.
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CAPTAIN SLIN:
Mind explaining why you sent this meltdown PM to me?
hahahaha. i knew it, self induced diabetic.
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CAPTAIN SLIN:
Mind explaining why you sent this meltdown PM to me?
LOL. This guy must be the same as "Slintown". He was easiar to melt than a chocolate bar on a summers day..... ;D
He would PM me too, saying "please lay off....Im a diabetic.....boo hooo ;D
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u guys are mental lol :o
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dont make stuff up. you keep accusing of me of being a diabetic ??? on every post i make and now youre making up fake personal messages? ask Ron.. I didnt send that
and I thik I can there is seperation in my arms in this picture isnt there coach? I think im holding some water and maybe some fat too but I see seperation and i used insulin for many years.
Why are you backing away from the statement you made in your PM to me? You evidently have PMed War Horse saying much the same thing, yet you deny everything. Seems to me you have bigger problems than diabetes... :-\
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dont make stuff up. you keep accusing of me of being a diabetic ??? on every post i make and now youre making up fake personal messages? ask Ron.. I didnt send that
and I thik I can there is seperation in my arms in this picture isnt there coach? I think im holding some water and maybe some fat too but I see seperation and i used insulin for many years.
By the way, I too could pull random contest pics off the internet and try to pass them off as me. But I have too much integrity to do that.
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THANK GOD THERE IS MILOS SARCEV TO CLEAR UP THIS INSULIN MYTH BULLSHIT AND TO PUT THAT DUMB BITCH SHAWN RAY IN HIS PLACE.
Milos if youre gym wasnt so far away I would be a sales rep for FREE so you can open up two Koloseums making it two places that bald short fat ass is banned from.
I don't think a diabetic would be a good rep for anyone's gym. :-X
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By the way, I too could pull random contest pics off the internet and try to pass them off as me. But I have too much integrity to do that.
Thats right. Even us getbiggers have standards. ;D
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I don't think a diabetic would be a good rep for anyone's gym. :-X
What's so pathetic is that this "guy" has admitted to knowing about insulin because "he" is a diabetic. "He" is probably some wheel-chair bound skinny teenager with acne who creates this "Captain Slin" persona on the internet to feel like "he" is a somebody. ::)
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Between 215 and 222lbs...
that makes more sense
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And Moses didn't Part the Red Sea but we all know WHO did :-*
no we don't know, but common sense should tell you that's a fictional story.
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oh brother the 5 stooges are on my jock again. :-\
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oh brother the 5 stooges are on my jock again. :-\
We are just trying to stop you from killing yourself. Taking 100 iu's of slin a day is very dangerous. :(
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We are just trying to stop you from killing yourself. Taking 100 iu's of slin a day is very dangerous. :(
more like you guys love to make up stories and lies. when the hell did i ever take 100iu of insulin anyway? do tell.
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more like you guys love to make up stories and lies. when the hell did i ever take 100iu of insulin anyway? do tell.
PANDAEMONIUM showed me a pm you sent him laying out your daily slin regime. Dude, you gotta slow down. :'(
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magnum, in your opinion is it possible to make it to the pro level w/o the use of insulin these days?
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PANDAEMONIUM showed me a pm you sent him laying out your daily slin regime. Dude, you gotta slow down. :'(
thats it. any pms you think are from me are NOT from me. I have never pmed anyone on this entire message board. Ask Ron or a mod or whoever can check.
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magnum, in your opinion is it possible to make it to the pro level w/o the use of insulin these days?
Depending on your geneitcs. I can name one. Eric Fankhouser.
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We are just trying to stop you from killing yourself. Taking 100 iu's of slin a day is very dangerous. :(
Especially for somebody who claims to be diabetic. :-\
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thats it. any pms you think are from me are NOT from me. I have never pmed anyone on this entire message board. Ask Ron or a mod or whoever can check.
Then I suppose somebody must have hacked into your account and sent them? ::) Your continual denial of the truth is really a symptom of a much deeper problem than insulin addiction.
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Then I suppose somebody must have hacked into your account and sent them? ::) Your continual denial of the truth is really a symptom of a much deeper problem than insulin addiction.
Aw shucks, Pandy, this little "man" has created this elaborate fantasy world that he can live out on the internet. Who are we to destroy his whole reason for existance? BTW, one of the mods on Mayhem e-mailed me his picture, I think it was posted by one of the orderlies at his treatemnt center after he was caught abusing his internet privliges (kiddie porn).
(http://www.bryangardner.com/blog/2006/Apr06/ParaplegicMatrix.jpg)
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Aw shucks, Pandy, this little "man" has created this elaborate fantasy world that he can live out on the internet. Who are we to destroy his whole reason for existance? BTW, one of the mods on Mayhem e-mailed me his picture, I think it was posted by one of the orderlies at his treatemnt center after he was caught abusing his internet privliges (kiddie porn).
(http://www.bryangardner.com/blog/2006/Apr06/ParaplegicMatrix.jpg)
hahaha, another brutal ownage of this clown "Captain Slin" hahahah ;D
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yeah real ownage.
let me clarify something.
a REAL ownage, is something true about someone. Like derek anthony for example.
you crackpots are just making shit up.
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yeah real ownage.
let me clarify something.
a REAL ownage, is something true about someone. Like derek anthony for example.
you crackpots are just making shit up.
Bro, this is what can happen to you from abusing insulin. Sorry for the shock value, but I think you need to see it!
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yeah real ownage.
let me clarify something.
a REAL ownage, is something true about someone. Like derek anthony for example.
you crackpots are just making shit up.
You mean like those pictures with all the red squares you keep posting? ???
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yeah real ownage.
let me clarify something.
a REAL ownage, is something true about someone. Like derek anthony for example.
you crackpots are just making shit up.
This coming from a skinny diabetic who is so desperate to impress people on the internet that "he" passes off random pics of bodybuilders off as "him"self ::)
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funny how it is so unbelievable to you guys that those pictures are me. maybe because i look better?
you want to come find out if those pics are me or not? give me ur phone# ill give you a call and you can write down the directions to my gym if this is something that is so important to all of you and something that you are so sure about. dont worry, im not going to be suprised if every single one of you pussy out.
disgusted that person was probably a diabetic, and im well versed in what can happen to diabetics ::)
btw, did you learn what glycogensis is yet?as someone who preps a professional bodybuilder that has struggled for many years, you may want to give him the courtesy of actually knowing what the hell you are talking about before you take his money? im very embarrassed FOR you. :-[ :-X
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funny how it is so unbelievable to you guys that those pictures are me. maybe because i look better?
you want to come find out if those pics are me or not? give me ur phone# ill give you a call and you can write down the directions to my gym if this is something that is so important to all of you and something that you are so sure about. dont worry, im not going to be suprised if every single one of you pussy out.
disgusted that person was probably a diabetic, and im well versed in what can happen to diabetics ::)
btw, did you learn what glycogensis is yet?as someone who preps a professional bodybuilder that has struggled for many years, you may want to give him the courtesy of actually knowing what the hell you are talking about before you take his money? im very embarrassed FOR you. :-[ :-X
Another internet warrior wants to "hook up" at the gym, LOL!
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Bro, this is what can happen to you from abusing insulin. Sorry for the shock value, but I think you need to see it!
Damn son! Diabetic foot infection. My eggs just got harder to eat...
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Milos, did you sell a lot of snake oil at the expo?...i wanted to come by for my 10 percent discount, but I didnt have enough strength to walk all the way around onlyme to get to your booth. Does the discount still stand on line?
also, I didnt see too many bag in hand schmoes toting your products, I saw a lot of fat guys with cell tech freebies and t-shirts. You have to be more generous with your feebies.
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Hide had some of the best conditioning (compared to most in the show) in the show, great routein great presentation and although the slin got him hard and somewhat vascular, he lacked crisp hardness and striations of pre-insulin days, like all insulin users, he lacked detail and separation in the delt/arm tie ins, legs were huge, but again, lacked detail compared to pre-insulin days. Was he close to being right on for this show...hell yes, the only one who blew him away on conditioning and was truly ripped was David Henry. Hide stands next to Henry and it's lights out in the conditioning department.
Look at the back here. A very thick skinned look. Watery.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_M2X0269.jpg)
Henry was more conditioned like you say
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_M2X0043_WMSQXWTNDE.jpg)
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I N S U L I N ;D
STRAY PUSSY
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Bro, this is what can happen to you from abusing insulin. Sorry for the shock value, but I think you need to see it!
That's a diabetic foot !! No proof using insulin results in type 1 diabetes.
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Bro, this is what can happen to you from abusing insulin. Sorry for the shock value, but I think you need to see it!
dude, what the fuck is that !
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:D
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/captainslin.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0130.jpg)
I'm 8 1/2 weeks out here.....imagine the day of the show!!
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very good for an old man Joe ! ;D
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holy rage is the most ancient condiment.
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That's a diabetic foot !! No proof using insulin results in type 1 diabetes.
Very good. Give this kid more reason to keep taking 100 iu's daily. >:(
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A little different position........
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0136-1.jpg)
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you look good but i am clearly whooping your ass in development back there. ad juding by ur limbs u are no taller than 5ft 6.. i am 6ft. ;)
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you look good but i am clearly whooping your ass in development back there. ad juding by ur limbs u are no taller than 5ft 6.. i am 6ft. ;)
Dude, you're not even close, I'm 208 there and yes, I am exactly 5'6 and like I said, I'm still 8 1/2 weeks out, I was 205 today and by Sat I'll be at 203, then load on Sun. Plus I'm probably 15 or more years older than you!
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r u crazy or something? u have thick traps buti have much better overall development.
and one more just for u :-*
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Well...
1- Kamali and I talked and there is realistic possibility that Disgusted (Magnum) and myself together will try to bring the best out of King.
As always - I love challenges and I like when people say - so and so is finished or something (whatever that might be) is impossible...
King did find out few things about my programs but as always by the time someone else "translates" what I said - it could be "lost in translation"...
He did few things right but also few things wrong for Montreal and final result was not as he expected...
Next time around - hopefully he would do it 100% and do it the right way - for the love of the sport as he doesn't have anything to prove to nobody else - but himself...and when he focuses on GOOD rather than BAD - good thing will come his way...
Barabara is just days away from giving a birth to their first child and I wish him all the happiness in the world - as only newborn can bring that...
2- All the talk about INSULIN is getting kind of old...as 'experts" fail to realize that IF used properly INSULIN could indeed be not just "not dangerous" but also healthy to any bodybuilder - competitor!
Used wisely INSULIN (strongest anabolic hormone) indeed is your best friend if you know how to manipulate it and not your worst enemy - as ignorant people think...
But, I would be first to tell everyone - don't touch it IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT...as it could and will kill you...
3- And as far as our "born again" - I will say that I doubt that he ever used INSULIN in his career - and at one point (2003) I did talk to him that IF he made a comeback maybe he would want to know how to use it...and at that time I was ready to share the info with him...However, he decided NOT to compete so that never happened...(not that we made a plan or anything...but knowing that he looked so spectacular WITHOUT IT I told him to imagine what he would look like if he packs few more pounds only in specific areas of his body where maybe extra size is needed).
Regardless of NOT respecting him as a person - for obvious reasons (not needed to be told again...) I always respected his physique.
However, I thought that from 1987 when he turned pro he didn't improve as much as he could...and IF HE DID - possibly he would have won few Mr. Olympia titles.
In 15 years he stayed pretty much the same...and considering that he did everything else BUT INSULIN - I believe that he could be way better than he was...
4- I want to congratulate all of my guys for great showing...Dennis shocked the world and IF there was the justice he could have won the whole show...
Johnnie was little bit overlooked, little bit less aggressive as I wanted him to be...and actually HAD TOO MUCH GLYCOGEN stored in the muscle which made him appear less sharper as AC...
With each and every comparison he was getting better and better and IF he had just couple of more - he would have also given Jay, Victor and Dennis run for their money...
Hidetada Yamagishi was absolutely spectacular and IMO best conditioned guy on that stage...
With all improvements he made over the year - he was at his all time best and certainly I saw him deserving of comparisons with Melvin, David, Silvio, Ronnie...
Why he wasn't compared - puzzles me almost as much as WHY were the judges ONLY people in the whole building NOT wanting to see Dennis next to Jay and Victor, Johnnie next to Melvin and Ronnie, Hide next to Silvio and David...me next to Shawn and Bob...
Milos, If insulin is released in ammount only neccesary to balance blood sugar and everything that is not stored in the muscle is stored as fat, what is the purpose of taking exogeneous insulin? I am confused.
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Dude, you're not even close, I'm 208 there and yes, I am exactly 5'6 and like I said, I'm still 8 1/2 weeks out, I was 205 today and by Sat I'll be at 203, then load on Sun. Plus I'm probably 15 or more years older than you!
if ur 8 1/2 weeks out no way are you going to be even near 200lbs my friend. 180 maximum im betting. in these pics i am somewhere between 230-240lbs.
Also....im watery here. but you can clearly see the striations in my TRICEPS. Not very common for people with supposed thick skin from all the "insulin" according to you right?
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if ur 8 1/2 weeks out no way are you going to be even near 200lbs my friend. 180 maximum im betting. in these pics i am somewhere between 230-240lbs.
Also....im watery here. but you can clearly see the striations in my TRICEPS. Not very common for people with supposed thick skin from all the "insulin" according to you right?
nice gyno, drug addict
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if ur 8 1/2 weeks out no way are you going to be even near 200lbs my friend. 180 maximum im betting. in these pics i am somewhere between 230-240lbs.
I'd dry up and blow away at 180.
You've just been owned........
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/joe21.jpg)
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I'd dry up and blow away at 180.
You've just been owned........
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/joe21.jpg)
owned my ass hole lol you wouldnt even be seen on stage standing next to me i outweigh you by 60lbs.
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owned my ass hole lol you wouldnt even be seen on stage standing next to me i outweigh you by 60lbs.
Hahahaha Joe owns you bigtime. I would not classify your conditioning as anything special. Your bodfat levels put you at 3 weeks out and you used too much diuretics.
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nice gyno, drug addict
what the fuck...i see zero gyno there
dude looks amazing..whats with the hating?
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owned my ass hole lol you wouldnt even be seen on stage standing next to me i outweigh you by 60lbs.
If your in Cali, you've got 8 1/2 week to show up and prove yourself....what do ya say?? I'm not just doing masters, I'm doing open as well!!
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:D
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0130.jpg)
I'm 8 1/2 weeks out here.....imagine the day of the show!!
8 1/2 weeks?
Good for you Joe.
Can't tell how the wheels are doing....but just with this shot....I would not put you in the same class of some other 'so called' competitors on this board.
good job
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Joe is quite the sexy beast
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8 1/2 weeks?
Good for you Joe.
Can't tell how the wheels are doing....but just with this shot....I would not put you in the same class of some other 'so called' competitors on this board.
good job
LOL...does that mean I'm better or worse?
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LOL...does that mean I'm better or worse?
Better. I won't name names.....but you're putting yourself back together...faster...& better than people I see on here struggling for years.
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Better. I won't name names.....but you're putting yourself back together...faster...& better than people I see on here struggling for years.
Joe already had a lot of muscle, he only had to shred away the fat
awesome physique
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what the fuck...i see zero gyno there
dude looks amazing..whats with the hating?
reply #180 bottom pic, nice puffy nipples, not hating just saying?
Why the sudden defense, is he your.......ahem....... :-\
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8 1/2 weeks?
Good for you Joe.
Can't tell how the wheels are doing....but just with this shot....I would not put you in the same class of some other 'so called' competitors on this board.
good job
Wheels are fine, but I'm training with a torn meniscus and a grade 1-2 sprain in my ACL, I don't THINK it sould be a problem.....just nagging the shit out of me!
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Have you put your routine up?
I'm curious to see how you're training.
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Coach Joe is right on course....thick litlle mudda.... :o
As for "slintown" or "crappyslin" or "superthin" , comparing a contest pic with onstage lighting, tan and such is not generic kitchen lighting pics.
Coach owns you.
But at least your used to being owned. :-\
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hi war-horse :D
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Joe is actually making progress pretty quick for an "older" fella. ;D A lotta thickness that I didn't realize was there once the fat came off.
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disgusted, you and kamali going to be training at the Koloseum? or are you and Milos still working on the details?
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Joe is actually making progress pretty quick for an "older" fella. ;D A lotta thickness that I didn't realize was there once the fat came off.
will he be competing in the masters over 60 ?
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Hahahaha Joe owns you bigtime. I would not classify your conditioning as anything special. Your bodfat levels put you at 3 weeks out and you used too much diuretics.
One of the best prep guys around just owned your diabetic ass, "Captain Slin".
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will he be competing in the masters over 60 ?
yes
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hi war-horse :D
Hello, my brother. 8) CHANGE YOUR GODDAMN AVATAR!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Makes my teeth hurt.... :'(
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Hello, my brother. 8) CHANGE YOUR GODDAMN AVATAR!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Makes my teeth hurt.... :'(
what's wrong with his avatar ?
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what's wrong with his avatar ?
Its filled with violence. Warhorse shall find this man in boots and "Curb" him with a cement truck.
Ignore my posts, Im near my period.... :-[
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Hello, my brother. 8) CHANGE YOUR GODDAMN AVATAR!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Makes my teeth hurt.... :'(
Its filled with violence. Warhorse shall find this man in boots and "Curb" him with a cement truck.
Ignore my posts, Im near my period.... :-[
hahahahhha
War-Horsette ;D
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Milos people like you ruined bodybuilding, it should have never became a science project !
why didnt you just go to medical school and become a doctor?
Your wife has to be some kind of idiot herself to be assosiated with someone like you!
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Milos people like you ruined bodybuilding, it should have never became a science project !
why didnt you just go to medical school and become a doctor?
Your wife has to be some kind of idiot herself to be assosiated with someone like you!
zzzzZZZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZzzzzz ::)
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hahahahhha
War-Horsette ;D
That doesnt have a warrior tone to it. :'(
;D ;D
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That doesnt have a warrior tone to it. :'(
;D ;D
have you bent 63 barbells in a fit of menstrual rage?
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have you bent 63 barbells in a fit of menstrual rage?
I think 3 of em were. :D
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I think 3 of em were. :D
did you do it naturally or were you all hopped up on Midol? ;D
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did you do it naturally or were you all hopped up on Midol? ;D
Did the guy in youre avatar, survive your curbing him?? :'(
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Did the guy in youre avatar, survive your curbing him?? :'(
I love that scene in AH-X ;D
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looks like a regular stomping to me. for a good curbing, see the last season of the sopranos. tony does it right.
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Did the guy in youre avatar, survive your curbing him?? :'(
hahahaha..........uh.........let's just say he dispensed PEZ after that.. ;D
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captain slin seemed to disappear.....what happened?
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Hey E-Kul, mind explaining why you just sent this weird PM to me? You sound deranged and a little gay. Please stop sending this shit to me from now on.
I made you my bitch tonight. How does it feel pole smoker? Come to daddy and scream my name....you can't handle what I got in my pants fucker...
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captain slin seemed to disappear.....what happened?
about fuckin time . . . although this e-kul ass-bandit's trying to fill his shoes.
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Hey E-Kul, mind explaining why you just sent this weird PM to me? You sound deranged and a little gay. Please stop sending this shit to me from now on.
hahahaha people send you the weirdest PM's ;D
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about fuckin time . . . although this e-kul ass-bandit's trying to fill his shoes.
These noobs are all the same. They never learn their place on Getbig. :-\ It's fun having E-kul to slap around.
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looks like a regular stomping to me. for a good curbing, see the last season of the sopranos. tony does it right.
never mind. i looked at it again. good form.
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hahahaha people send you the weirdest PM's ;D
I don't know why these schmoes feel the need to spam my inbox with their stalkerish PMs. It kind of freaks me out TBH.
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never mind. i looked at it again. good form.
definately, good elbows back extention and full extention of the leg also, I give it an 8.
Sopranos was better because you got to see teh teeth fly ;D
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definately, good elbows back extention and full extention of the leg also, I give it an 8.
Sopranos was better because you got to see teh teeth fly ;D
Hilarious... ;D
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if you're going to do something, you might as well do it right.
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if you're going to do something, you might as well do it right.
That's what I tell E-Kul's "wife" when she sucks but doesn't swallow.
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That's what I tell E-Kul's "wife" when she sucks but doesn't swallow.
she's not used to it, since she's married to a ball-less lee priest stalker
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she's not used to it, since she's married to a ball-less lee priest stalker
hahaha but don't forget "he" is wayyyyyy too "kul" for the rest of us ::)
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That's what I tell E-Kul's "wife" when she sucks but doesn't swallow.
I find i have to slap her on the back of the head. That usually does the trick. ;)
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I find i have to slap her on the back of the head. That usually does the trick. ;)
hahaha the grgrgagackcough*hack*gugullllllllmmmm sound that follows is hilarious isn't it?
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I find i have to slap her on the back of the head. That usually does the trick. ;)
Funny thing is, last time I dropped a load down her throat she was screaming, "Make me pregnant baby!!!" What a cum chow hound that bitch is.
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Curious: is this COACH guy in fact Joe McNeil, of Dexter Jackson's, Flex Wheeler's and lately Kamali's (pre-Magnum) trainer fame?? I see you guys calling him JOE, and I know that he does prep for competitors.
Just curious, here. Thanks!
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Curious: is this COACH guy in fact Joe McNeil, of Dexter Jackson's, Flex Wheeler's and lately Kamali's (pre-Magnum) trainer fame?? I see you guys calling him JOE, and I know that he does prep for competitors.
Just curious, here. Thanks!
no
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yes
Yes? Over 60 :'(?
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Yes? Over 60 :'(?
Dumb question, dumb answer. ;D
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coach is looking thick as a guy and well developed. good shit. he deserves his propers.
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Yes? Over 60 :'(?
don't worry Joe, you are not "that" old ;D
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Looking good Joe.......show `em how it`s done bud!!