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Title: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: shiftedShapes on November 13, 2007, 10:57:35 AM
Hey guys I've noticed that now that I have more responsibility at work (office job no manual labor involved) It's a lot harder to stick to a low calorie diet.  I used to be able to go all day without eating but now that I have to focus that just doesn't work.  Have you guys had similar experiences?
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: Camel Jockey on November 13, 2007, 11:02:49 AM
Of course.. Actually, I think it's kinda easier when you're kept busy, because you don't take in as much cals and are more active.. Of course this is my experience..
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: McFarland on November 13, 2007, 11:04:15 AM
How many calories do you eat a day? 
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: Monster_Everything on November 13, 2007, 11:05:28 AM
You just have to wake up early to prepare food and/or spend money at lunchtime on good food. I think its easy to keep on a good diet during work hours, but i know everyones office is a lil diffrent
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: shiftedShapes on November 13, 2007, 11:07:31 AM
How many calories do you eat a day? 

this is a good question.  I'm not really sure.  I think I shoot for about 1800 but often probably end up closer to 2500, and sometimes up to 3000.  I don't really count, and a lot of the foods I eat don't have caloire counts.  Like I have strawberry shortcake cheesecake most days for lunch (it has no calorie count on it).  
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: McFarland on November 13, 2007, 11:09:58 AM
this is a good question.  I'm not really sure.  I think I shoot for about 1800 but often probably end up closer to 2500, and sometimes up to 3000.  I don't really count, and a lot of the foods I eat don't have caloire counts.  Like I have strawberry shortcake cheesecake most days for lunch (it has no calorie count on it).  

Do you lift weights? 
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: CT_Muscle on November 13, 2007, 11:10:33 AM
this is a good question.  I'm not really sure.  I think I shoot for about 1800 but often probably end up closer to 2500, and sometimes up to 3000.  I don't really count, and a lot of the foods I eat don't have caloire counts.  Like I have strawberry shortcake cheesecake most days for lunch (it has no calorie count on it).  

HAHAHAHA I like to eat calzones everyday with pizza but I don't
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: McFarland on November 13, 2007, 11:18:09 AM
Do you lift weights? 

You don't even do that anymore, do you? 
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: shiftedShapes on November 13, 2007, 11:19:49 AM
Do you lift weights? 

I still use weights for some deadlifting type movements that I do, but most of training is in the form of bodyweight exercises.  For most exercises I do a lot of sets of singles or doubles.  
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: shiftedShapes on November 13, 2007, 11:24:57 AM
HAHAHAHA I like to eat calzones everyday with pizza but I don't

I like Zeppolis with my pizza.

Yesterday my food intake was as follows:

-about 200 cals of high fiber cereal for breakfast
-devils food cheesecake (this was really dense, felt like 1000 cals) for lunch
-3 slices of prosciutto and onion pizza (but it was fancy restaurant pizza so they weren't that big) and a little bit of rigatoni with Bolognese sauce.

on the training side I did a lot of different bodyweight movements like ab wheel rollouts, some training for freestanding hand stand push-ups, some leg raises, and more miscellaneous crap that you guys would surely label as GHEY.
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: Stu on November 13, 2007, 11:28:25 AM
I like Zeppolis with my pizza.

Yesterday my food intake was as follows:

-about 200 cals of high fiber cereal for breakfast
-devils food cheesecake (this was really dense, felt like 1000 cals) for lunch
-3 slices of prosciutto and onion pizza (but it was fancy restaurant pizza so they weren't that big) and a little bit of rigatoni with Bolognese sauce.

on the training side I did a lot of different bodyweight movements like ab wheel rollouts, some training for freestanding hand stand push-ups, some leg raises, and more miscellaneous crap that you guys would surely label as GHEY.

two questions gay boy, 1: what sort of shape are you in? 2: where can i find out more about that kind of training?(im serious)
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: McFarland on November 13, 2007, 11:28:46 AM
I like Zeppolis with my pizza.

Yesterday my food intake was as follows:

-about 200 cals of high fiber cereal for breakfast
-devils food cheesecake (this was really dense, felt like 1000 cals) for lunch
-3 slices of prosciutto and onion pizza (but it was fancy restaurant pizza so they weren't that big) and a little bit of rigatoni with Bolognese sauce.

on the training side I did a lot of different bodyweight movements like ab wheel rollouts, some training for freestanding hand stand push-ups, some leg raises, and more miscellaneous crap that you guys would surely label as GHEY.

Now why would we think that?   ::)

Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: McFarland on November 13, 2007, 11:32:21 AM
My point is that there must be quite a few forums on the internet covering a variety of interests...maybe a pop-locking or life extension forum might be better suited for you.  I don't think there's one single behavior you exhibit anymore that's anywhere near in line with what a bodybuilder does, yet here you sit on Getbig with a higher post count than me.  Consequently, you look nothing like a bodybuilder, either.  Does the physique you aspire to now look anything like any bodybuilders that you've seen, either natural or drugged?  I mean come on, let's re-evaluate things for a moment here.   Daddywaddy's nearing the same place you are right now.  Adonis fell into it as well.  Instead of sitting here telling us everything that we do is wrong or bad for us, go over to another forum and talk positively about shit.     
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: shiftedShapes on November 13, 2007, 11:38:51 AM
two questions gay boy, 1: what sort of shape are you in? 2: where can i find out more about that kind of training?(im serious)

This site is great:

http://beastskills.com/tutorials.htm

I think I'm in great shape.  I'm not nearly as ripped as I was this summer, but still very lean with good proportions.  I posted pics about a year ago (maybe more?)  I think I've probably added about 2-3lbs of muscle since then and probably a little bit leaner.
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: shiftedShapes on November 13, 2007, 11:47:53 AM
My point is that there must be quite a few forums on the internet covering a variety of interests...maybe a pop-locking or life extension forum might be better suited for you.  I don't think there's one single behavior you exhibit anymore that's anywhere near in line with what a bodybuilder does, yet here you sit on Getbig with a higher post count than me.  Consequently, you look nothing like a bodybuilder, either.  Does the physique you aspire to now look anything like any bodybuilders that you've seen, either natural or drugged?  I mean come on, let's re-evaluate things for a moment here.   Daddywaddy's nearing the same place you are right now.  Adonis fell into it as well.  Instead of sitting here telling us everything that we do is wrong or bad for us, go over to another forum and talk positively about shit.     

I've been on this site for a while.  I stay out of habit and because I like people's attitudes and sense of humor here.  If there were a site that was as busy for people doing bw training and low calorie diets, I would be all over it, but sadly there isn't and I lack the time to make one myself.

well I think I look like a natural BBer.  I would love to look like Serge Nubret or those great pictures that somebody posted of Thierry Pastel.  I think that will have to wait until Acceleron drops though (google it).

Maybe sometime if I get in condition I really am proud of I'll post more pics.  I really don't mind if you guys doubt me.  SF started a thread about me today, that was critical of my past condition I guess.  I liked the attention and the criticism didn't bother me that much becuase I like all of you guys. 
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: Stu on November 13, 2007, 11:55:41 AM
thanks bro, how many chins can you do?
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: shiftedShapes on November 13, 2007, 12:06:46 PM
thanks bro, how many chins can you do?

I can do two I have a double chin.


no seriously I'm not really sure, I don't really do any of my movements for high reps.  I mostly do singles or doubles trying to maximize their difficulty by not using momentum and using the hardest possible range of motion.

Like consider the difference in difficulty between a normal pull-up and the Close to Impossible (pictured below)

(http://beastskills.com/jasperbenincasaCTI.jpg)

I can't do that but when I do pull-ups I'm trying to push away from the bar as much as I am pull up to it (or go in front of it to hit the rear delts more).
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: Go 4 It on November 13, 2007, 12:08:18 PM
Why would you eat cheesecake everyday?? When you start a thread named "hard to diet when working hard"...
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: McFarland on November 13, 2007, 12:13:04 PM
I've been on this site for a while.  I stay out of habit and because I like people's attitudes and sense of humor here.  If there were a site that was as busy for people doing bw training and low calorie diets, I would be all over it, but sadly there isn't and I lack the time to make one myself.

well I think I look like a natural BBer.  I would love to look like Serge Nubret or those great pictures that somebody posted of Thierry Pastel.  I think that will have to wait until Acceleron drops though (google it).

Maybe sometime if I get in condition I really am proud of I'll post more pics.  I really don't mind if you guys doubt me.  SF started a thread about me today, that was critical of my past condition I guess.  I liked the attention and the criticism didn't bother me that much becuase I like all of you guys. 

OK well I have no problem with you here, I mean I like you, we've exchanged PM's and whatnot...but if you're gonna come along after everything I post and be like, "Yeah but you won't live to be 110 doing that stuff," well, that's just a pain in my ass.  And consider that if you're gonna look more like what you're indicating that you do, that you might have to bite the bullet and actually lift some traditional weights and add a little protein to your diet.  The diet you posted is a housewife Nutrisystem crash diet, seriously.  Wake up and see where you're at with all this.  Oh and one-legged doorjam squats won't do a damn thing for you that equates with real-world progress.  Yeah, they're probably hard.  I'll give you that.  But wtf are you doing them for?  
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: Rearden Metal on November 13, 2007, 12:36:08 PM
The funny thing is, I'd get fat on his "diet".

Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: shiftedShapes on November 13, 2007, 01:22:09 PM
The funny thing is, I'd get fat on his "diet".



yeah yesterday was not a banner day for me
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: Stu on November 13, 2007, 01:22:35 PM
I can do two I have a double chin.


no seriously I'm not really sure, I don't really do any of my movements for high reps.  I mostly do singles or doubles trying to maximize their difficulty by not using momentum and using the hardest possible range of motion.

Like consider the difference in difficulty between a normal pull-up and the Close to Impossible (pictured below)

(http://beastskills.com/jasperbenincasaCTI.jpg)

I can't do that but when I do pull-ups I'm trying to push away from the bar as much as I am pull up to it (or go in front of it to hit the rear delts more).

hahaha, shit ive been trying some of the stuff on that site and basically falling flat on my face, takes a lot of practice i guess
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: The Squadfather on November 13, 2007, 01:23:02 PM
The funny thing is, I'd get fat on his "diet".


he ain't exactly ripped to shreds either.
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: Andre Nickatina on November 13, 2007, 01:27:24 PM
Eating cheesecake everyday for lunch  ???
okay... good idea. Not.
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: Stu on November 13, 2007, 01:28:37 PM
Eating cheesecake everyday for lunch  ???
okay... good idea. Not.

it depends, if you eat for taste and dont care what you look like then id say its a great idea
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: Andre Nickatina on November 13, 2007, 01:32:25 PM
it depends, if you eat for taste and dont care what you look like then id say its a great idea
He talks about being on a 'diet'.
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: Man of Steel on November 13, 2007, 01:32:49 PM
Hey guys I've noticed that now that I have more responsibility at work (office job no manual labor involved) It's a lot harder to stick to a low calorie diet.  I used to be able to go all day without eating but now that I have to focus that just doesn't work.  Have you guys had similar experiences?

I think most posters on this site are either college kids that don't work, go to class and train.   Those that work may not have intensive jobs or much responsibility.  For those of us that do work, have career responsibility, are married, have children, mortgage payments and all of life's responsibilities won't be able to maintain that diehard gym lifestyle as it's a very self-centered existence.

I think a lot of the posters on here are college kids that think, "how hard can it be to work 9-5, eat 6 times a day and then train after work?"   From that limited perspective it isn't difficult, it's when you add reality and the rest of life that it becomes hard and you have to work that much harder just so you can work hard at the gym each week.

Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: candidizzle on November 13, 2007, 01:34:40 PM
I think most posters on this site are either college kids that don't work, go to class and train. 


well i tutor 4 days a week for a total of about 10 or so hours..  :D
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: shiftedShapes on November 13, 2007, 01:35:38 PM
OK well I have no problem with you here, I mean I like you, we've exchanged PM's and whatnot...but if you're gonna come along after everything I post and be like, "Yeah but you won't live to be 110 doing that stuff," well, that's just a pain in my ass.  And consider that if you're gonna look more like what you're indicating that you do, that you might have to bite the bullet and actually lift some traditional weights and add a little protein to your diet.  The diet you posted is a housewife Nutrisystem crash diet, seriously.  Wake up and see where you're at with all this.  Oh and one-legged doorjam squats won't do a damn thing for you that equates with real-world progress.  Yeah, they're probably hard.  I'll give you that.  But wtf are you doing them for?  

what's a doorjam squat?

I don't think I need to lift weights.  I worked up to some pretty heavy lifts and I can tell you that the BW work I do now puts way more tension on my muscles.  I also always try to get the USDA recommended amount of protein (yesterday I fell a little short but the day before I definitely had a little bit more, so on avg. I'm probably ok).

As far as longevity goes, I have never criticized guys on gear for their choices, they want to sacrifice some longevity for being big now, that's fine by me.  It's not that important for me to be huge now so I won't sacrifice health for it, I'll wait for Myostatin inhibition or better yet Acceleron
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: Man of Steel on November 13, 2007, 01:36:19 PM
well i tutor 4 days a week for a total of about 10 or so hours..  :D

I suspect you're doing waaaay more than most.
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: shiftedShapes on November 13, 2007, 01:36:53 PM
he ain't exactly ripped to shreds either.

yeah you're right, you don't expect me to maintain contest condition year round do you?  
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: shiftedShapes on November 13, 2007, 01:37:58 PM
Why would you eat cheesecake everyday?? When you start a thread named "hard to diet when working hard"...

my diet strategy is to reduce calories.  The Cheesecake is very satisfying, but more importantly it tastes awesome
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: shiftedShapes on November 13, 2007, 01:40:07 PM
I think most posters on this site are either college kids that don't work, go to class and train.   Those that work may not have intensive jobs or much responsibility.  For those of us that do work, have career responsibility, are married, have children, mortgage payments and all of life's responsibilities won't be able to maintain that diehard gym lifestyle as it's a very self-centered existence.

I think a lot of the posters on here are college kids that think, "how hard can it be to work 9-5, eat 6 times a day and then train after work?"   From that limited perspective it isn't difficult, it's when you add reality and the rest of life that it becomes hard and you have to work that much harder just so you can work hard at the gym each week.



Yeah this is exactly what I'm talking about.

If you're just killing 8 hours at work surfing the net, it's easy to keep a diet.  That was the main way I lost so much weight, just zone out at work all day and go hungry.  It's a lot harder to do that though now that I have to be focused all day.  I can't get shit done when I'm starving.
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: Man of Steel on November 13, 2007, 01:44:10 PM
Yeah this is exactly what I'm talking about.

If you're just killing 8 hours at work surfing the net, it's easy to keep a diet.  That was the main way I lost so much weight, just zone out at work all day and go hungry.  It's a lot harder to do that though now that I have to be focused all day.  I can't get shit done when I'm starving.

That and when your responsibilities increase at work you'll be forced to find quick ways to eat and that ain't often clean bb food sources....that's fvckin Wendys.   Sure I'll go somewhere like Wendy's and get a few double hamburgers plain and dry, scrap a bun or two, clean off as much meat fat as I can and get in my protein, but that's not gonna be an option all the time.  Yeah, when work slows I can pack my lunch every morning for the day, but when projects and deadlines increase, your energy levels diminish and it's truly difficult to keep that up like you'd like to be able to.
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: Stu on November 13, 2007, 01:45:27 PM
Yeah this is exactly what I'm talking about.

If you're just killing 8 hours at work surfing the net, it's easy to keep a diet.  That was the main way I lost so much weight, just zone out at work all day and go hungry.  It's a lot harder to do that though now that I have to be focused all day.  I can't get shit done when I'm starving.

thats funny, im the complete opposite. if i sit around with nothing to do i tend to think about food and eating more, if im busy i dont give it a thought and as such eat less that way
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: The Squadfather on November 13, 2007, 01:47:02 PM
yeah you're right, you don't expect me to maintain contest condition year round do you?  
hahaha, i just find it hilarious that for a guy who brags on his condition and over the top training methods you look average.
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: candidizzle on November 13, 2007, 01:48:16 PM
when i have nothing to do all i can thnk about is food. sometimes ill just walk around my kitchen for like 20 minutes looking at everything i have and reading all the labels and re-organizing shit.. hahaha...   i have definitely got a problem!
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: shiftedShapes on November 13, 2007, 01:49:25 PM
Why would you eat cheesecake everyday?? When you start a thread named "hard to diet when working hard"...

There is a good cheesecake place downstairs from my office Junior's (if any of you have ever seen Making the band, this is the place that P. Diddy has the kids run to get him strawberry cheesecake) and I tend to get into a habit of eating the same thing everyday for lunch.

most days my other two meals are pretty healthy.

for breakfast I have: Vanilla Puffed Wheat™ - POINTS® value: 1
 
Simple, delicious and sugar free, Vanilla Puffed Wheat is sure to satisfy with its natural vanilla almond, and mixed berry flavor, combined with a crunch that will keep you coming back for more.  

(http://www.goodchoicecereal.com/images/products/ww_puffed_wheat_nutrition.gif)

(http://www.goodchoicecereal.com/images/products/ww_puffed_wheat.jpg)

This stuff is very tasty and healthy.

and for dinner a lot of the time I will have some chinese chicken breast dish or some kind of fish dish.  

As a fourth meal I will sometimes have an ice cream sundae with low fat ice cream low fat cupcakes and cocoa pebbles.
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: candidizzle on November 13, 2007, 01:50:54 PM
That and when your responsibilities increase at work you'll be forced to find quick ways to eat and that ain't often clean bb food sources....that's fvckin Wendys.   Sure I'll go somewhere like Wendy's and get a few double hamburgers plain and dry, scrap a bun or two, clean off as much meat fat as I can and get in my protein, but that's not gonna be an option all the time.  Yeah, when work slows I can pack my lunch every morning for the day, but when projects and deadlines increase, your energy levels diminish and it's truly difficult to keep that up like you'd like to be able to.
you should try buying the big crates of a couple dozen eggs andhardboiling a bunch of them. just put them back in an egg carton and put them in the fridge at work....

back when i had a "real job" this is what i did, i also kept a few cans of tuna in the cubbord in the breakrrom.

Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: shiftedShapes on November 13, 2007, 01:51:54 PM
thats funny, im the complete opposite. if i sit around with nothing to do i tend to think about food and eating more, if im busy i dont give it a thought and as such eat less that way

well I don't keep any food in my office so with out any demands placed on me I just zone out in front of the computer and ignore the hunger.  Once you learn to ignore it it will go away after a while.
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: shiftedShapes on November 13, 2007, 01:54:33 PM
hahaha, i just find it hilarious that for a guy who brags on his condition and over the top training methods you look average.

either this is hyperbole or you have body dismorphia issues (or both).  There is no where in the world where the average man is as fit as me.
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: Man of Steel on November 13, 2007, 01:55:22 PM
you should try buying the big crates of a couple dozen eggs andhardboiling a bunch of them. just put them back in an egg carton and put them in the fridge at work....

back when i had a "real job" this is what i did, i also kept a few cans of tuna in the cubbord in the breakrrom.



Thank you, but been there and done that.   I was told at my last job to leave the eggs at home cause people were complaining about the smell each day.....that and they make me fart.   The tuna I still keep with me most of the time at work.
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: candidizzle on November 13, 2007, 01:56:23 PM
There is a good cheesecake place downstairs from my office Junior's (if any of you have ever seen Making the band, this is the place that P. Diddy has the kids run to get him strawberry cheesecake) and I tend to get into a habit of eating the same thing everyday for lunch.

most days my other two meals are pretty healthy.

for breakfast I have: Vanilla Puffed Wheat™ - POINTS® value: 1
 
Simple, delicious and sugar free, Vanilla Puffed Wheat is sure to satisfy with its natural vanilla almond, and mixed berry flavor, combined with a crunch that will keep you coming back for more.  

(http://www.goodchoicecereal.com/images/products/ww_puffed_wheat_nutrition.gif)

(http://www.goodchoicecereal.com/images/products/ww_puffed_wheat.jpg)

This stuff is very tasty and healthy.

and for dinner a lot of the time I will have some chinese chicken breast dish or some kind of fish dish.  

As a fourth meal I will sometimes have an ice cream sundae with low fat ice cream low fat cupcakes and cocoa pebbles.
wow that is actually a pretty awesome nutritional profile for a whole cup of cereal. the cereal i use to carb up with is 52 % fiber, and its still 25 grams of carbs(well, including the fiber) for a half cup...but its just plain old bran flavor. i am going to try this cereal on this weekends carb-up...thnaks, shifted
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: shiftedShapes on November 13, 2007, 02:00:50 PM
it tastes great too
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: Stu on November 13, 2007, 02:08:02 PM
wow that is actually a pretty awesome nutritional profile for a whole cup of cereal. the cereal i use to carb up with is 52 % fiber, and its still 25 grams of carbs(well, including the fiber) for a half cup...but its just plain old bran flavor. i am going to try this cereal on this weekends carb-up...thnaks, shifted

Fiber One pwns that
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c20RA.html (http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c20RA.html)

Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: shiftedShapes on November 13, 2007, 02:11:33 PM
Fiber One pwns that
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c20RA.html (http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c20RA.html)



well it tastes like crap and it is less filling per calorie
Title: Re: HARD TO DIET WHEN WORKING HARD
Post by: Stu on November 13, 2007, 03:09:43 PM
well it tastes like crap and it is less filling per calorie

i could live on that, honestly...that and only that, i have had it for so long ive become immune to its blandness