My point is that there must be quite a few forums on the internet covering a variety of interests...maybe a pop-locking or life extension forum might be better suited for you. I don't think there's one single behavior you exhibit anymore that's anywhere near in line with what a bodybuilder does, yet here you sit on Getbig with a higher post count than me. Consequently, you look nothing like a bodybuilder, either. Does the physique you aspire to now look anything like any bodybuilders that you've seen, either natural or drugged? I mean come on, let's re-evaluate things for a moment here. Daddywaddy's nearing the same place you are right now. Adonis fell into it as well. Instead of sitting here telling us everything that we do is wrong or bad for us, go over to another forum and talk positively about shit.