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Title: How will these new pros do?
Post by: Matt C on November 19, 2007, 10:27:00 AM
WelterWeight - Carlo Filippone

LightWeight - Leonardo Ortiz

BantamWeight - David Candy

Pictures courtesy of www.bodybuilding.com (http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-1881271-10409943) (affiliate link embedded  ;D).
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: jaejonna on November 19, 2007, 10:31:57 AM
What happened to Alex A ?
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: Matt C on November 19, 2007, 10:34:15 AM
What happened to Alex A ?

www.musclememory.com is your friend.  ;D

http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?c=Nationals+-+NPC&y=2007
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: wisconsinBB on November 19, 2007, 10:37:07 AM
It all depends whether promoters have under 200lb classes at the major shows, which I doubt will happen.  In a lineup without weight classes, they stand no chance at doing anything at all.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: Matt C on November 19, 2007, 10:43:41 AM
It all depends whether promoters have under 200lb classes at the major shows, which I doubt will happen.  In a lineup without weight classes, they stand no chance at doing anything at all.

That's what I was thinking...

These guys are between 5'2-5'5.  But is it not true that David Henry (despite his claims) is actually only 5'3?  Being top 10 in the world is pretty damn good, especially with what you would think would be a limitation.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: wisconsinBB on November 19, 2007, 10:54:56 AM
That's what I was thinking...

These guys are between 5'2-5'5.  But is it not true that David Henry (despite his claims) is actually only 5'3?  Being top 10 in the world is pretty damn good, especially with what you would think would be a limitation.

David Henry and Lee priest are rare examples of short men doing very well, and henry was a middleweight when he turned pro.  Name one guy who earned his procard in the bantams/lights/welters that has ever accomplished anything as a pro.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: Matt C on November 19, 2007, 10:58:16 AM
David Henry and Lee priest are rare examples of short men doing very well, and henry was a middleweight when he turned pro.  Name one guy who earned his procard in the bantams/lights/welters that has ever accomplished anything as a pro.

After reviewing musclememory's files I would tend to agree.  So is it the end of the road for the bodybuilders listed above?
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: OneMoreRep on November 19, 2007, 10:58:38 AM
Is it just me or does Leonardo look completely naked in this pose?  It almost appears as if he is hiding under that pose...

If you look closely, his face resembles that of a man who might have been caught having an extra-marital affair and who, after being caught by the "other" man, is slowly trying to leave the bedside to jump out the window, while pleading to not get hit..

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=181737.0;attach=213568;image)
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: Matt C on November 19, 2007, 11:03:23 AM
Is it just me or does Leonardo look completely naked in this pose?  It almost appears as if he is hiding under that pose...

If you look closely, his face resembles that of a man who might have been caught having an extra-marital affair and who, after being caught by the "other" man, is slowly trying to leave the bedside to jump out the window, while pleading to not get hit..

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=181737.0;attach=213568;image)

LOL!!  I was thinking the same thing, exact details of that story aside.  ;D
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: Meso_z on November 19, 2007, 12:05:43 PM
Pros in which "speciality"?
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: gordiano on November 19, 2007, 12:34:26 PM
That's what I was thinking...

These guys are between 5'2-5'5.  But is it not true that David Henry (despite his claims) is actually only 5'3?  Being top 10 in the world is pretty damn good, especially with what you would think would be a limitation.

Dave Henry is wayyyyyyyyy taller than your average 7 year old!


Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: Matt C on November 19, 2007, 12:43:08 PM
Pros in which "speciality"?

Having sex with grapefruit.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 19, 2007, 12:55:42 PM
David Henry and Lee priest are rare examples of short men doing very well, and henry was a middleweight when he turned pro.  Name one guy who earned his procard in the bantams/lights/welters that has ever accomplished anything as a pro.
Flavio baccanini competed regularaly in the pros and competed in the Mr O a couple of times I think.  He was tiny, approxiamately 160 pounds, 4 feet 11 inches, and was a crowd favorite most of the time, Flavio is a former Mr. Italy, and finished second in the Master Olympia in 1999.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: Matt C on November 19, 2007, 01:05:26 PM
Flavio baccanini competed regularaly in the pros and competed in the Mr O a couple of times I think.  He was tiny, approxiamately 160 pounds, 4 feet 11 inches, and was a crowd favorite most of the time, Flavio is a former Mr. Italy, and finished second in the Master Olympia in 1999.


Solid lineup in 1999!  It was Sonny Schmidt's last contest at age 46 no less!  He came in at 5'10 and 240 pounds.  More proof that age is just a number (at least with the right supplements).

http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?c=Olympia+-+Masters+-+IFBB&y=1999

I look forward to reviewing both the 1999 Masters and 1994 Ironman when GMV converts them to DVD.  The 1994 IM was Bertil Fox's last contest at age 43.  A lot of those old timers stuck around for quite some time!

As far as Flavio was concerned, he was a pretty consistent competitor to place and that is especially impressive for being under 5'0 and 160 pounds.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: The Squadfather on November 19, 2007, 01:11:33 PM
David Henry and Lee priest are rare examples of short men doing very well, and henry was a middleweight when he turned pro.  Name one guy who earned his procard in the bantams/lights/welters that has ever accomplished anything as a pro.
Dexter turned pro as a welterweight as well.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on November 19, 2007, 01:16:48 PM
Dexter turned pro as a welterweight as well.

Dexter turned pro as a light heavyweight homie !  ;D
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: j3di3 on November 19, 2007, 01:29:14 PM
Flavio baccanini competed regularaly in the pros and competed in the Mr O a couple of times I think.  He was tiny, approxiamately 160 pounds, 4 feet 11 inches, and was a crowd favorite most of the time, Flavio is a former Mr. Italy, and finished second in the Master Olympia in 1999.


monster wheels  :o
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: wisconsinBB on November 19, 2007, 02:22:34 PM
Dexter turned pro as a welterweight as well.

Dexter was indeed a light heavy.  I think it was the 98 or 99 north americans.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: njflex on November 19, 2007, 08:11:57 PM
Dexter was indeed a light heavy.  I think it was the 98 or 99 north americans.
yes but worked way up from batam in early nineties,henry is great example of a mid class winner filling out and competing successfully.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: GoneAway on November 19, 2007, 10:41:12 PM
wont make a dent without at least 15p of muscle on each. carlo's left quad looks like shit.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: Matt C on November 20, 2007, 12:17:07 PM
wont make a dent without at least 15p of muscle on each. carlo's left quad looks like shit.

It's nice to have Lee Priest and David Henry around to prove that bodybuilders who are 5'5 and under can still be top 10 or even top six in the world and slay much bigger beasts.  Think about how huge and freaky Toney Freeman is, and Dave still managed to beat him at this year's Olympia, as well as Quincy Taylor.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: aussiepro on November 20, 2007, 04:25:36 PM
i cant believe these guys are now pro's.. you have guys out there that have been working at it for years and years that look 5 times better than these guys... i guarantee we will never hear from any of these guys again
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: Quagmire on November 20, 2007, 04:39:40 PM
A bodybuilder at a buck 45 is pathetic...
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 20, 2007, 04:50:35 PM
A bodybuilder at a buck 45 is pathetic...
Criticism of people of superior development who have acieved what they never could is SAD
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: Quagmire on November 20, 2007, 04:56:53 PM
Criticism of people of superior development who have acieved what they never could is SAD

Whatever, i just don't get what special about a 145lb bodybuilder that isnt even super shredded. I'm not saying weight is all that matters but their conditioning in these pics doesn't look special to me. And i'm not old and bitter.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: jude2 on November 20, 2007, 05:49:26 PM
They won't do shit.  Jose Raymond is the only guy in the lighter classes lately that continued to maked good gains.  He could do well in  a under 200# class.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: GoneAway on November 21, 2007, 12:53:59 AM
It's nice to have Lee Priest and David Henry around to prove that bodybuilders who are 5'5 and under can still be top 10 or even top six in the world and slay much bigger beasts.  Think about how huge and freaky Toney Freeman is, and Dave still managed to beat him at this year's Olympia, as well as Quincy Taylor.

no doubt. but priest and henry look like 'little' beasts, if u get me. theyre not small for their height. these guys here frankly look too small, almost skinny in some areas.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: Special Ed on November 21, 2007, 12:58:53 AM
Not much from the little guys but for the bigger dudes, I think Dixon has the best chance to crack some heads at the Pro level this year, especially in the under 202 class. Evan still needs to fill out his large frame and AD probably needs more size to compete with the big boys as well. But Jose Raymond looked very impressive for his class.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: CF on December 14, 2007, 02:26:49 AM
wont make a dent without at least 15p of muscle on each. carlo's left quad looks like shit.

Wow!  You guys are really a tough crowd.  Funny how you can win a class where thousands upon thousands of competitors throughout the country can't even qualify to compete in and STILL get no credit.  You guys may be right, maybe Dave, Leonardo and myself may never do anything as pros, but guess what, we are in title and accomplishment.  I can assure you all we are very proud of our accomplishments, it's dissappointing that we don't get the same credit as the "bigger" guys.  Yes, our careers may be as some of you say "over", but we all i'm sure acheived a tremendous goal.

Btw, goneaway, sorry you think my left "unflexed" quad looks like shit.  Here's a pic where it is flexed:  Hope you like this one.   ;)I'll trade this pic for a pic of your left quad.

Carlo Filippone
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: omgsoswole on December 14, 2007, 02:41:20 AM
Wow!  You guys are really a tough crowd.  Funny how you can win a class where thousands upon thousands of competitors throughout the country can't even qualify to compete in and STILL get no credit.  You guys may be right, maybe Dave, Leonardo and myself may never do anything as pros, but guess what, we are in title and accomplishment.  I can assure you all we are very proud of our accomplishments, it's dissappointing that we don't get the same credit as the "bigger" guys.  Yes, our careers may be as some of you say "over", but we all i'm sure acheived a tremendous goal.

Btw, goneaway, sorry you think my left "unflexed" quad looks like shit.  Here's a pic where it is flexed:  Hope you like this one.   ;)I'll trade this pic for a pic of your left quad.

Carlo Filippone

MELTDOWN!

Epic searching through Getbig archives for posts with your name in it alert.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: kiwiol on December 14, 2007, 02:45:54 AM
A bodybuilder at a buck 45 is pathetic...

Its not pathetic, it's a contradiction in terms ;D
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: CF on December 14, 2007, 03:04:17 AM
Wow!  You guys are really a tough crowd.  Funny how you can win a class where thousands upon thousands of competitors throughout the country can't even qualify to compete in and STILL get no credit.  You guys may be right, maybe Dave, Leonardo and myself may never do anything as pros, but guess what, we are in title and accomplishment.  I can assure you all we are very proud of our accomplishments, it's dissappointing that we don't get the same credit as the "bigger" guys.  Yes, our careers may be as some of you say "over", but we all i'm sure acheived a tremendous goal.

Btw, goneaway, sorry you think my left "unflexed" quad looks like shit.  Here's a pic where it is flexed:  Hope you like this one.   ;)I'll trade this pic for a pic of your left quad.

Carlo Filippone

Sorry, here's the pic.

Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: KeepItReal on December 14, 2007, 03:14:04 AM
Sorry, here's the pic.



GREAT pic, Carlo.  And a well deserved win to a man who well represents the bodybuilding community both on- and off-stage!!  Truly a professional in all senses of the word - a successful businessman AND IFBB PRO!!  A man who won his class and who has a lot of class!!  I'm sure he already has a full plate planned for 2008!!  Good Luck.  ^5
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: GoneAway on December 14, 2007, 03:31:23 AM
Sorry, here's the pic.



that is from the same show? wow. how about posting the mandatories, if u have them. id love to eat my words
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: CF on December 14, 2007, 07:48:33 PM
GREAT pic, Carlo.  And a well deserved win to a man who well represents the bodybuilding community both on- and off-stage!!  Truly a professional in all senses of the word - a successful businessman AND IFBB PRO!!  A man who won his class and who has a lot of class!!  I'm sure he already has a full plate planned for 2008!!  Good Luck.  ^5

Thank you!  Sure do!  You all will here about it soon.  Thank you for the kind words.

Carlo
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: CF on December 14, 2007, 07:52:18 PM
that is from the same show? wow. how about posting the mandatories, if u have them. id love to eat my words

Here's the link.  I'm always open to constructive criticism.  I do need about 20 lbs or so to fill out, which I hope to gain over the next 2 years or so.  Could be fun now that there are no more weight class restrictions to adhere to.

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=browse&id=3100&eventcode=1213

Carlo Filippone
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: GoneAway on December 15, 2007, 01:47:36 AM
thanks for the link. u looked really good (better than i thought), but just too small to compete with the big boys. thats all i meant in my first comment, as ur only as good as ur competition, and the ifbb pros are very good.

ifbb is all about back, and ur lats are weak, so work them. thats my main critisism/advice from looking at ur pics.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: CF on December 15, 2007, 06:46:18 AM
thanks for the link. u looked really good (better than i thought), but just too small to compete with the big boys. thats all i meant in my first comment, as ur only as good as ur competition, and the ifbb pros are very good.

ifbb is all about back, and ur lats are weak, so work them. thats my main critisism/advice from looking at ur pics.

Thanks. Will do..  look for those improvements.... Next year.

Carlo
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: The Squadfather on December 15, 2007, 09:26:51 AM
Carlo has tiny lanky looking arms and legs, way too skinny.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: CF on December 15, 2007, 02:49:19 PM
Carlo has tiny lanky looking arms and legs, way too skinny.

Thanks!! ;) I'm glad I got your attention. ;D
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: The Squadfather on December 15, 2007, 02:51:25 PM
Thanks!! ;) I'm glad I got your attention. ;D
no offense dude but you're arms and legs are small for a bodybuilder, your condition is pretty damn good though.
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: Bast000 on December 15, 2007, 03:03:22 PM
(http://www.repetrope.com/assets/content/Media02/galleries/14107/fullsize/14107-PVW-candy-d-03.jpg)

guy looks sick but he's 5' 2"
Title: Re: How will these new pros do?
Post by: dov on December 15, 2007, 05:10:03 PM
calves on this Fillipone look suspect...did'nt think he looked best in his class anyway..shldrs also ??????????????wtf