by the way, nasser failed the drug test for the 96 olympia.
so, it really doesnt matter how he looked.
Jay challanged it. Not sure what Nasser did.the year jay failed nasser wasnt even there,your thinking of marcus ruhl.
Nasser cheated as still had those flabby fatty ass glutes. LOL.
Every bodybuilder uses them to shed water, moron. Yates just switched piss vials in the bathroom, or blew the judges, or was in Wieder's favor.
I can't believe Yates beat people like Nasser, Ray and Levrone.. What a joke.
Of course you can find guys who beat him here, beat him there but noone could beat him in all poses from all angles. Front double bi levrone has bigger arms, dorian has way bigger lats etc. Dorian had some flaws, but his overall package couldn't be beaten by the competitors at the time.
Quit your bitching you little crybaby.
Half of Nasser's physique was GARBAGE.
Nasser and his tight midsection lol
Dorian getting owned.Dorian drier against a Nasser with synthol lats, arms and calves.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/19%200/10.jpg)
the year jay failed nasser wasnt even there,your thinking of marcus ruhl.I was referring to 1996 when Nasser failed it.
bench
None of his body parts show proof of synthol in 96.His lats have always looked like shit and synthol-filled Calves have always looked funky and biceps got increasingly worse, not to mention his smooth delts with the striated chest. As bas as Wheeler although Flex looked better.
And Nasser's conditioning was on par with Dorian's.
Dorian is clearly being beaten and you idiots can't admit it. It's fact.
The proof is in the fact that Nasser's physique deteriorated at such a rate after 1997 that it could only be due to synthol. It is an insult to your intelligence (or maybe a sign of the lack there of) that he claims he never used synthol. LOL.
His lats have always looked like shit and synthol-filled Calves have always looked funky and biceps got increasingly worse, not to mention his smooth delts with the striated chest. As bas as Wheeler although Flex looked better.
Nasser looks like shit there, narrow as the day is long :-\ :-*
No reply to my pics, which btw are conclusive proof of Dorian not deserving to win.
His delts were hard and his biceps super peaked and defined. Dorian had no biceps. LOLLol. Not from NJ but nice try. ;)
I hear NJ has lots of crack, you must be smokin' some..
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/96%20olympia/16.jpg)
The above shots PROVE that even pre-97-Dorian lost to Nasser in every single mandatory pose except for the rear lat spread and rear double bi's.
Huge Nasser > Dorian
Read double bi is up for debate..
Look at this. Dorian's biceps vanish.. :-X
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/BBingDungeon/mr%20olympia%2096/13.jpg)
That is true actually while Dorian had better back detail in the rear double bi Nasser's delts, biceps and triceps destroyed Dorian's. So overall Nasser's rear double bi was better than Dorian's.
Dorian had a better back , not just back detail ! and Nasser's is holding a ton of water even though he failed the diuretics test , so no overall when all things are considered not just what you think is better Dorian WON period
A bunch of bullshit.
Dorian just had more detail(only from the rear), and that's about it. You can't tell me biceps vanishing is a good thing, along with smaller delts and triceps.
Look at Nasser's tight midsection expand like the Universe , trying his hardest to Flex a back he doesn't have .
HAHAHAH, as though Yates' stomach is any different.
More detail he , he , he , he you forgot better separation and detail oh not to mention he's a fuck of a lot drier too , show me one pic of Nasser's back like this and good luck you'll need it ;)
Nice rear latspread HUGE nasser looks about as wide as a 205 pound Shawn Ray lol
He's hitting the pose differently, and there's also timing. The idiots photographers caught Sean in the climax of his spread, and Nasser in decline. You could also make the arguement that Sean looks wider than Dorian there, which is not reality, but looks so due to photography and the timing that each bodybuilder chooses to hit the pose.
You are being manhandled.
HAHAHAH, as though Yates' stomach is any different.
These excuses make more sense when you keep in mind that ND is basically in love with the keg as well as other "good looking aryan BBs".:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Pasty white brit BB >>>> swarthy Egyptian BB
Stick to the topic troll ;)
hows the ' gorgeous transvestites ' doing pumpster?
Not denying it, ND's or suckymuscle's gimmick.
Way to shift away from the topic at hand. LOL
Let's throw in this to make the point final. ;D
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/19%200/6.jpg)
Sums it nicely the clear cut winner.
Notice the difference in dryness in his arms and delts and the rest of his body. Night and day. Synthol at its finest and this is what happens when you shoot too much synthol and continue to juice past your prime.
Absolutely no arms.. :-\
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/19%200/12.jpg)
That's when he was out of his prime.He still has synthol delts, lats, calves and biceps in those years.
Try 96 and 97 and even 95.
That is true actually while Dorian had better back detail in the rear double bi Nasser's delts, biceps and triceps destroyed Dorian's. So overall Nasser's rear double bi was better than Dorian's.
true
HAHAHAH, as though Yates' stomach is any different.
It's worst
Look at Nasser's tight midsection expand like the Universe , trying his hardest to Flex a back he doesn't have .
Nice rear latspread HUGE nasser looks about as wide as a 205 pound Shawn Ray lol
Ok, I will give you this, Yates' hair cut was off in 96 but he was DRY AS A BONE. His taper here is outstanding and his good arm looks great. The human body only needs 1 kidney to function, Yates only needs 1 bi to win. Fuck off haters >:(
There's actually not much difference in their back width. If you don't believe me, take a ruler. The small difference can be attributed to the fact that Dorian is more center-on with the camera whereas Nasser is further and on a slight angle.
god dorian has been getting owned bad lately, there have been many threads this week about it started by different people, myself included.
its always the same 3 people defending him, while everyone else agrees he is owned.
Are you expecting ND to actually confirm the truth of what you're saying, vs more deflections?
Nasser's back clearly at least as wide, and dominating Yates once again.
ND's excuses will include:
-Lighting
-Angles
-Distance from the camera
its so nice to see that other than the 3 nuthuggers in the truce thread (and I am not including the gimmick account of England 1 by either Pubes or ND, not sure which one) are the ONLY people around who think dorian was not overrated.
everyone else uses their brains and eyes and can see the truth as it is right in front of them:
LOL I love this.
I don't need a gimmick account , nice try though ! I like to use my name when I own you ;)
it may not be your gimmick account, but the fact is that some of the wording in England 1's posts are word for word the same as the other nuthuggers (Pubes), and they are arguments that have never been made anywhere else. No on else could be that dumb.
it wouldn't be difficult to find out which one of the nuthuggers it is, simply by comparing posts from posts made 8 months ago by Pubes.
if they are word for word the same, its pretty naive to think that it is NOT pubes.
Again don't make claims I have a gimmick account
you should be ashamed that the only people dumb enough to side with you have to resort to that sort of thing because they know that without gimmick accounts, you guys have, oh, about 4 people agreeing with you and thats it.
LOL
The mystery of the vanishing biceps.. ;D
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/96%20olympia/52.jpg)
hey maybe he should have taken a page for Nasser's book and just injected the missing biceps ;)
Can't prove whether had oil in his arms in 96. They look fine to me and just about everyone else with common sense.
Dorian is getting owned, just be a man and admit it.
No that was Nasser who got owned ;) and maybe that was set him off on the synthol trend ???
Nasser and doz are close in 96. nas looks better in some areas, same with doz. its just nassers lats and posing (possibly) that let him down.
Nasser also had some funky shit with his hamstrings where one ham always looked more "ripped" the other even in relaxed poses. His forearms weren't that great either.
Nasser was great in his prime but by competing too long he kind of ruined it.
If by owned you mean cheated, then yes.
Flex got away with synthol, along with calf implants and later Ruhl and others. Nasser looked oil free in his prime and was cheated.
Maybe he didn't have any snythol in 96/97 but he also didn't have a back , I hope this helps.
Oh brother.. His lats were as wide as Yates' lats and all he really lacked was some lower back detail.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/BBingDungeon/mr%20olympia%2096/13.jpg)
Nasser didn't even beat Shawn let alone Dorian. Nasser was never really in the running. Half his physique was rubbish.
Nasser didn't even beat Shawn let alone Dorian. Nasser was never really in the running. Half his physique was rubbish.
by the way, nasser failed the drug test for the 96 olympia.
so, it really doesnt matter how he looked.
lol so was dorian's relative to his back.
he was nothing special from the front:
Bullshit. You would be humiliated if you claimed that after attending the 93 or 95 Olympia ;)
perhaps I should rephrase it:
Dorian was nothing special from the front relative to a peak Ronnie Coleman.
there.
The mystery of the vanishing biceps.. ;D
damn dorian has some gunter-like obliques there. i like gunter, but his obliques kill his physique. probably should try to get them surgically trimmed or something.
same contest where is the obliques now?
Why is his left bicep so short? hahaha What a glaring flaw..
because its torn , so his the quad and the tricep and all that and he still managed to beat Huge Nasser lol
Thank you for making my point. He shouldn't have won with a torn bicep, as it's a pretty glaring flaw not only in the shot you posted above, but in his front double biceps shots.
And Nasser should have won with an entire back? poor logic
Yates' advantage from the back is minimal if it existed at all.
First shot Nasser owns Yates-bigger AND more cut (not synthol with those cuts) and very good arms vs. non-existent bis and average tri size on Yates.
Second shot just on lats he's not far off, not as cut but otherwise comparable. Used a little too much oil.
Nass's lower back is in no comparison to Dorians
Yates' advantage from the back is minimal if it existed at all.
First shot Nasser owns Yates-bigger AND more cut (not synthol with those cuts) and very good arms vs. non-existent bis and average tri size on Yates.
Second shot just on lats he's not far off, not as cut but otherwise comparable. Used a little too much oil.
You act as though he had no back, but he did, perhaps not as good as Dorian's. But there's more to back poses then just the back alone. Arms and delts both matter, and Nasser smoked Dorian on those. On claves, they were equals. From the front, it wasn't even funny, as Nasser won by leaps and bounds.
Nasser would beat Dorian in most of the mandatory poses. He was the clear winner.
Late to the party but my thoughts:
It's very, very close but, for me, Dorian wins because of a better back and better conditioning. You have to bring something a little bit extra to beat the O. Very close though and from some shots Nasser has it and from others, Dorian does.
because its torn , so his the quad and the tricep and all that and he still managed to beat Huge Nasser lol
And yet the judges gave him the win? How can a man with three, THREE!!! torn muscle groups be the best built man on the planet. Did he win the symmetry round that year?
You act as though he had no back, but he did, perhaps not as good as Dorian's. But there's more to back poses then just the back alone. Arms and delts both matter, and Nasser smoked Dorian on those. On claves, they were equals. From the front, it wasn't even funny, as Nasser won by leaps and bounds.The best back has always won the O. Haney had shit arms and he beat guys with better limbs. Nasser is full of oil in some places,which make him water logged and then dry as hell in others. The synthol use in his lats and delts is very evident by his later contest condition and surgeries. If synthol filled large arms are the standard then Haney should have 0 Olympias with his toothpicks and Wheeler should have a few.
Nasser would beat Dorian in most of the mandatory poses. He was the clear winner.
Nope. Ronnie was nothing special with his ugly, horrible abs, gyno'd chest, small forearms, and short torso. To have a great upper body you have to be great in ALL poses showing the upper body. Coleman's upper body is nothing special in the ab/thigh, side triceps, and front double biceps. Dorian was better than Ronnie in more poses. Ronnie was best in the MM and that's about it. Sorry :-*
Thank you , someone who gets it !
I agree in 1997 he shouldn't have won and yes he won the symmetry round.
yates still went on to win after his injuries.
the point is that once ronnie's arms and back went, he lost.
whereas yates also showed up in shape despite his injuries, where ronnie only got by on his back for every year past 99.
Another clown who is basically implying that the IFBB's outcomes are completely unbiased, with Yates "soldiering on" where Coleman couldn't bwhahahaahahaha talk about delusional.
This is the same clown who goes on and on about the importance of "judging criteria" as if that matters when there are clear travesties like 97 LOL talking out of both sides of his ass again.
pumpster, keep hating the white man - see how far its gotten you.
this is when you look around that dump of a place you live in the ghetto (with your home gym, hahaha) and realize how pathetic your life is.
full of failures.
at least, you should be able to afford some type of transportation to the gym instead of having to work out on of phone books.
If that's the main difference you're reinforcing my point. Yates also arguably had better ass cheeks. :-\
What does have to do with the topic at hand?
He made very clear points that you couldn't counter, so you attack him about his supposed place, just as ND resorted to personal attacks about a page back. Argue about the discussion at hand or wave the white flag.
Someone who gets it LOL he's basically saying that it was a tossup, Yates winning because he was the current champion you idiot LOL
ND,
can you please post the pics of the bowflex/home gym/living space that pumpster himself posted.
(where he challegened everyone to a bowflex bench press)
LMFAO the 400poundpower-rod bench press challenge
This is the same clown who goes on and on about the importance of "judging criteria" as if that matters when there are clear travesties like 97 LOL talking out of both sides of his ass again.
Wow, aren't you a class act?
I could post pictures of Dorian with a black eye, but I know that doesn't concern the topic at hand.
can you guess which one is Dorian? ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=183814.0;attach=216665;image)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/TwigsOnBarrel.jpg)
LMFAO the 400poundpower-rod bench press challenge
yeah the one that kicked Ronnie & Nassers ass every time they met ;)
Epic deflection & stalking LOL
No moron he's stating the obvious Yates better back and better conditioning , something you can't seem to grasp.
Someone got their ass kicked alright...
Hey jackass since you insist on making it personal, i'd rather that it were you under the ground instead of your sister.
Weren't you just the guy bitching about sticking to the topic? and how what topic was it? Oh thats right Nasser getting his ass handed to him in 1996
Hey jackass since you insist on making it personal, i'd rather that it were you under the ground instead of your sister.
Thanks for proving my point, moron.
That was callous, perverse and unbecoming. I have no further comments.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Did you really expect anything more from him?
I did expect him to draw the line somewhere. I though that even someone as mentally unstable and with such a mean personality wouldn't stoop so low, but I guess I was wrong.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Someone got their ass kicked alright...
You make a great point !Agreed with team dorian on this one, pumpster is a peice of shit "person".
Nasser's best sponsor.
Seriously though, he lacked all over condition and clearly inflated his muscles with oil which caused his body to go to shit later. It wasn't like his body suddenly stopped responding to gear but was taken over by oil.
u have got to be the biggest loser on getbig, u troll all over it trying to find a thread about nasser to defend him..
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