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Nasser and Ronnie growling at eachother hahaha ;D
classic
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/ZZK31/video/x35w7u_zzk-98-part-1_sport
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When? I missed it.
Why didn't Kevin Levrone win that show?
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Hah, you'd think by the production that you were watching a video from the 70s
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Why didn't Kevin Levrone win that show?
More importantly, why didn't Flex? :(
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Oh no, they've given an old man a mic..
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This is a classic Mr. Olympia. Ronnie was at his all-time best conditioning. Apparently backstage he felt like he was going to die, he was so dehydrated. Only if Flex was 100% would he have prevailed over Coleman this night.
My favorite routines from this Olympia were Coleman and Haider.
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Ronnie is definitely the deserving champ here
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More importantly, why didn't Flex? :(
Perhaps you've not seen when do their back poses :)
Flex was savagely pwned
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When? I missed it.
Why didn't Kevin Levrone win that show?
More importantly, why didn't Flex? :(
ecause Ronnie beat their ass and took their lunch money.
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Nasser and Ronnie growling at eachother hahaha ;D
classic
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/ZZK31/video/x35w7u_zzk-98-part-1_sport
Flex should have won. I first thought that Ronnie was the winner, and I do think this was by far his best Olympia performance, but after seeing the video I think that it's incorrect that Flex's conditioning was off. The more I watch of coleman, the more I'm disappointed. To be honest, I now am starting to think that 2005 might have been his best Olympia: sick size 2000 with the waist and conditioning of 1999 - not as good as 1998, though.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Flex should have won. I first thought that Ronnie was the winner, and I do think this was by far his best Olympia performance, but after seeing the video I think that it's incorrect that Flex's conditioning was off. The more I watch of coleman, the more I'm disappointed. To be honest, i now am starting to thionk that 2005 might have been his best Olympia: sick size 2000 with the waist and conditioning of 1999 - not as good as 1998, though.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Surely you must accept that Ronnie is in better condition and that he was incredibly dominant from the back.
I'm sure you'll be unable to entertain this prospect but ever since that thread started, the more involved members of that truce thread have become very hostile to giving any props to the other guy in question. I see it from ND, Hulkster and you.
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It's almost funny that anyone actually BELIEVES Flex should have won that show :o...
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Surely you must accept that Ronnie is in better condition and that he was incredibly dominant from the back.
There is no question that Ronnie beat Wheeler for muscularity, and that's a very big part of a bodybuilding contest. However, the difference in size was not like 50 lbs or so, and Wheeler's structure with tiny joints and incredibly long muscle bellies is so superior to Ronnie that I just don't know. It could go either way. I'm not upset that Ronnie won, but I wouldn't be upset if wheeler won either.
I'm sure you'll be unable to entertain this prospect but ever since that thread started, the more involved members of that truce thread have become very hostile to giving any props to the other guy in question. I see it from ND, Hulkster and you.
Here's where you have it wrong. I consider Coleman one of the greatest bodybuilders of all times, unlike the guys on the Coleman side, who have called Dorian "overrated", a "construction worker", and posted pictures of barrels with twigs as Dorian. They have even go as far as using racist remarks, calling Dorian a "blocky White guy" and saying that dorian looked "pasty and frail". I dare you to find a single comment from me in that thread where I insulted Ronnie. The most I've said was that Coleman looked pregnant in 2003/4.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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What I want to know is how Ernie Taylor had the confidence to go out on stage with his triceps looking that ridiculous. What he did is akin to going out in public with a huge pimple on your nose :-X
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It's almost funny that anyone actually BELIEVES Flex should have won that show :o...
STFU. What do you know of bodybuilding? Go back to hugging semi-naked guys on the floor for a living... ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Flex should have won. I first thought that Ronnie was the winner, and I do think this was by far his best Olympia performance, but after seeing the video I think that it's incorrect that Flex's conditioning was off. The more I watch of coleman, the more I'm disappointed. To be honest, I now am starting to think that 2005 might have been his best Olympia: sick size 2000 with the waist and conditioning of 1999 - not as good as 1998, though.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
too bad Flex didn't copy his 1993 conditioning where he was 0.0% body fat...it would have been no contest then.
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STFU. What do you know of bodybuilding? Go back to hugging semi-naked guys on the floor for a living... ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Wha....
Okay.
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STFU. What do you know of bodybuilding? Go back to hugging semi-naked guys on the floor for a living... ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Debussey thought TripleH666 sold antibiotics for several years. And now this comes out.
Oh no.
:)
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When? I missed it.
Why didn't Kevin Levrone win that show?
Because Ronnie was better.
WOOSSSHHHHHHHHH
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How the hell did Levrone place 4'rth????
should have been atleast 2'nd..
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/ZZK31/video/x35xag_zzk-98-part-2_sport
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How the hell did Levrone place 4'rth????
should have been atleast 2'nd..
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/ZZK31/video/x35xag_zzk-98-part-2_sport
Legs maybe?
Bald Levrone was freaky, but that was not his best year.
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Legs maybe?
Bald Levrone was freaky, but that was not his best year.
Flex or Nassers legs where not better.
upperbodywise it might have been one of his best years.
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That video is how bodybuilding shows should be presented today. Get rid of all the nonsense, cut points for dry humping and other embarrassing acts, no costumes, etc. There is no originality today. Wolfe is about the only thing bodybuilding has going for it today. Cut off points for guts and bloat, etc...
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That video is how bodybuilding shows should be presented today. Get rid of all the nonsense, cut points for dry humping and other embarrassing acts, no costumes, etc. There is no originality today. Wolfe is about the only thing bodybuilding has going for it today. Cut off points for guts and bloat, etc...
Makes sense, I was at the Arnold and some of the "routines" where down right embarrassing. People where going crazy when the guy who won the best posing routine was gyrating all over the place. That kind of stuff might work for their other career in gay for pay or as male dancers but its disgusting on a bodybuilding stage.( it could be indicative of the worst elements of bodybuilding becoming mainstream) It would be alright if it was present only occasionally but its at every bodybuilder. The black bodybuilders dance around to bad r&b and the white bodybuilders either play heavy metal or classical. Its all the same. But then again, what else can you do that this point.
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anyone else notice how sh*t nasser looks compared to flex, levrone and coleman? esp when they do the back double bi he gets smashed so bad by flex and coleman it's like dude why are you even here?? hahaha
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Makes sense, I was at the Arnold and some of the "routines" where down right embarrassing. People where going crazy when the guy who won the best posing routine was gyrating all over the place. That kind of stuff might work for their other career in gay for pay or as male dancers but its disgusting on a bodybuilding stage.( it could be indicative of the worst elements of bodybuilding becoming mainstream) It would be alright if it was present only occasionally but its at every bodybuilder. The black bodybuilders dance around to bad r&b and the white bodybuilders either play heavy metal or classical. Its all the same. But then again, what else can you do that this point.
I don't know about you but i thought Wheeler was getting a little too close for Ronnies comfort in some of those poses.
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Debussey thought TripleH666 sold antibiotics for several years. And now this comes out.
Oh no.
:)
Man. I walk away from the boards for 3 hours and my shitory has been re-written! ;D
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(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/6441-5/1998-mr-olympia-232.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=8464731cfc1d662f8e4cba43173e3a33)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/6433-5/1998-mr-olympia-230.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=8464731cfc1d662f8e4cba43173e3a33)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/6429-5/1998-mr-olympia-229.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=8464731cfc1d662f8e4cba43173e3a33)
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Flex's arms looking clownish :-\
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/6210-4/1998-mr-olympia-242.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=8464731cfc1d662f8e4cba43173e3a33)
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oh shit Ronnie got seriously owned in those poses.
im sure Ronnie ownes Levrone from the back but wow :o
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Flex's FDB was masterful though. Coleman in a distant third in this shot.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/6187-4/1998-mr-olympia-236.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=8464731cfc1d662f8e4cba43173e3a33)
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Flex's FDB was masterful though. Coleman in a distant third in this shot.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/6187-4/1998-mr-olympia-236.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=8464731cfc1d662f8e4cba43173e3a33)
Seeing these photos I can not understand why Ronnie won. Kevin and even Nassar look more symmetrical. Ronnie is the most overrated bodybuilder of all time.
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Wheeler looked great, in fact he was the 2nd best BB of the last few decades there, better than Yates, Haney, etc.
Problem is when you look at the direct comparisons Coleman and Wheeler look very similar except for a few areas where Coleman blows him away-back width, shoulder width, quad size for example. Coleman also had noticably more biceps detail AND didn't have the synthol issue.
Close, since Wheeler's the 2nd best BB of the last few decades, but Coleman beat him decisively in several areas.
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Seeing these photos I can not understand why Ronnie won. Kevin and even Nassar look more symmetrical. Ronnie is the most overrated bodybuilder of all time.
From the front, Ronnie was 2nd-4th. But his back was so dominant and his condition was so superior that he could not be denied.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/4790-5/1998-mr-olympia-163.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=8464731cfc1d662f8e4cba43173e3a33)
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Wheeler looked great, in fact he was the 2nd best BB of the last few decades there, better than Yates, Haney, etc.
Clearly delusional since Yates defeated him easily every time. Yates' psychological influence on Wheeler caused the infamous ninja "attack" ::)
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(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/4779-5/1998-mr-olympia-160.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=8464731cfc1d662f8e4cba43173e3a33)
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From the front, Ronnie was 2nd-4th. But his back was so dominant and his condition was so superior that he could not be denied.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/4790-5/1998-mr-olympia-163.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=8464731cfc1d662f8e4cba43173e3a33)
I see what your saying about his back, it was always one if not the most impressive of his body parts. God, from the front he looks awful. His gut looks like a foot ball, distended and sticking out on the sides.
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From the front, Ronnie was 2nd-4th. But his back was so dominant and his condition was so superior that he could not be denied.
Absolute crap.
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I see what your saying about his back, it was always one if not the most impressive of his body parts. God, from the front he looks awful. His gut looks like a foot ball, distended and sticking out on the sides.
Agreed. From the front Ronnie was not very impressive compared to his 98 peers. Coleman lacked the size at this point in his career to overcome his structural and aesthetic flaws compared to his peers. The massive gyno also was very distracting.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/6187-4/1998-mr-olympia-236.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=8464731cfc1d662f8e4cba43173e3a33)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/4938-4/1998-mr-olympia-141.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=8464731cfc1d662f8e4cba43173e3a33)
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After seing the video, Ronnie wasn't the "hands-down" winner.
Very close between him, flex, nasser and levrone.
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I was never a huge Nassar fan but seeing him next to ronnie, he is just as big with better shape. Anybody have a back comparison between the two.
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awesome vid thanks for posting
the music gives it an epic feel
arguably the best bodybuilding show ever
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awesome vid thanks for posting
the music gives it an epic feel
arguably the best bodybuilding show ever
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I'd have to say either 98 or 93 was the greatest Olympia ever. The quality of the competitors in these fields were outstanding!
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(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/6191-5/1998-mr-olympia-237.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=93f77530cc076954f776ecc9485182d7)
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(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/6191-5/1998-mr-olympia-237.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=93f77530cc076954f776ecc9485182d7)
Like England 1 said, he has them beat from the back. Pretty impressive.
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After seing the video, Ronnie wasn't the "hands-down" winner.
Very close between him, flex, nasser and levrone.
bullshit he owned them all from the back. nasser has no back, hams, or arms. levrone had no legs. flex is filled with oil.
Hope this helps
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oh shit Ronnie got seriously owned in those poses.
im sure Ronnie ownes Levrone from the back but wow :o
Kevin was taller than Ronnie in those pictures. Kevin was notorious for standing closer to the cameras than his competition.
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Wheeler looked great, in fact he was the 2nd best BB of the last few decades there, better than Yates, Haney, etc.
Yeah. That's why he has so many Olympia wins and...wait...what?
Flex NEVER won an Olympia? What's that you say? Never even showed up to the O in his best shape?
Oh.
;)
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Levrone-closest to Ronnie, even in back and didn't have to shoot gallons of oil like Nasser and Wheeler. Thick all over and should have Mr. O titles from Doz and Ronnie era. 2002 was his greatest screwing against a shit Ronnie. He may have lacked back detail but early on he had width and thickness to always be a contender
Flex-full of oil, wasn't ripped after 93 (something Yates pointed out), trained like a pussy and never beat Dorian or Yates from the front or back.
Nasser-shit back full of oil, biceps courtesy of Exxon. Disparity in oily BPs and regular ones is clear and back went downhill in 98
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I'd have to say either 98 or 93 was the greatest Olympia ever. The quality of the competitors in these fields were outstanding!
Pobrecito, 1995 was a better Olympia than 1993. It had Dorian and Kevin at their career bests, Nasser at 275 lbs and guys like Ray were still competing.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Nasser and Ronnie growling at eachother hahaha ;D
classic
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/ZZK31/video/x35w7u_zzk-98-part-1_sport
Man Ronnie was super sharp at that contest
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After seing the video, Ronnie wasn't the "hands-down" winner.
Very close between him, flex, nasser and levrone.
He never was the hands down winner at this contest he was extremly lucky to win , lucky Flex was off and lucky the judged didn't go with Flex just based on name alone , this is still one of the closest Mr Olympia on record separated by just 3 points .
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Anyone who says someone OTHER than Ronnie should've won the 98 O, HASN'T seen the video! ::)
Why don't you guys post some of the evening pics???
Ronnie was the hardest guy onstage at the pre judging, but he was flat...and still out massed everyone!!! Hell, he made Nasser look small!!!
But when the evening show came, he had filled out, and it was as different as night as day! :o
Nobody had ever seen anything like that, that size and shape with INSANE conditioning...
His ONLY flaw that night was his gyno, other than that, that night, Ronnie redefined bodybuilding ;)
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Anyone who says someone OTHER than Ronnie should've won the 98 O, HASN'T seen the video! ::)
Why don't you guys post some of the evening pics???
Ronnie was the hardest guy onstage at the pre judging, but he was flat...and still out massed everyone!!! Hell, he made Nasser look small!!!
But when the evening show came, he had filled out, and it was as different as night as day! :o
Nobody had ever seen anything like that, that size and shape with INSANE conditioning...
His ONLY flaw that night was his gyno, other than that, that night, Ronnie redefined bodybuilding ;)
I read a report recently of the contest that said the same thing.
It basically said that Ronnie got better and better as the contest
went along. I need to save these reviews when I find them.
Anyway, Here are some quotes from that contest...
The audience genuinely freaked however, when it was Ronnie Coleman's turn to take the stage. He had the biggest back in the show, even bigger than Sonbaty. He was totally ripped and symmetrical, striated and simply beautiful to look at.
Lori Victoria Braun
His senses were reeling, battling to come to terms with the scene unfolding around him. He stood next to precontest favorite Flex Wheeler at the top of the ramp erected at The Theater at New York's Madison Square Gardens, gazing out over the seething maelstrom of a sellout crowd of 5,600. They were in an uproar as a chant of "RON-NIE! RON-NIE!" filled the auditorium, as it had throughout the day.
Peter McGough