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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: EL Mariachi on December 19, 2007, 07:32:46 PM
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I know some dudes have been bigger and all but Arnold just looks cool jacked. Like it's supposed to be a normal thing.
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i know, nasser is also one of them that can pull of the cool jacked look
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i know, nasser is also one of them that can pull of the cool jacked look
I never saw Arnold in bodybuilding clothes 24/7. Fuck nasser you ass greaser
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I never saw Arnold in bodybuilding clothes 24/7. Fuck nasser you ass greaser
thats because The Huge One coudnt fit in the clothes arnie wears.
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thats because The Huge One coudnt fit in the clothes arnie wears.
that half wog is half the man arnold is/was
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Arnold is the greatest no question
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=222037;image)
Why is the top half of Nasser's head tiny compared to the bottom half?
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Great pics of Arnie. And don't bother comparing Arnold and Nasser, both totally different bodybuilders from totally different generations, plus its a bit stupid comparing a 7 time Mr O to a zero time Mr O.
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Great pics of Arnie. And don't bother comparing Arnold and Nasser, both totally different bodybuilders from totally different generations, plus its a bit stupid comparing a 7 time Mr O to a zero time Mr O.
Not to mention that while Arnold was giving a Dutch Oven to a Kennedy, Nasser was probably eating Swanson Hungry Man dinners and a Whitman's Sampler for a post-workout snack.
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WTF is wrong with you pumpkin heads? Nasser does not wear bodybuilding cloathes 24/7 he is a regular guy, and his head is fine, everybody is not shaped the same or else this would be boring world. Get off NASSER, he is just as great as Arnold, Arnold had a saggy chest ne way.
TEAM NASSER
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WTF is wrong with you pumpkin heads? Nasser does not wear bodybuilding cloathes 24/7 he is a regular guy, and his head is fine, everybody is not shaped the same or else this would be boring world. Get off NASSER, he is just as great as Arnold, Arnold had a saggy chest ne way.
TEAM NASSER
Please explain how this is possible??
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Having money does not make you great, NASSER talks the truth and is a wise person. Arnold once slept with many women and cheated on his wife, he is garbage as a person, Nasser as a BBer would destroy him in his prime if they stood side by side.
TEAM NASSER
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Having money does not make you great, NASSER talks the truth and is a wise person. Arnold once slept with many women and cheated on his wife, he is garbage as a person, Nasser as a BBer would destroy him in his prime if they stood side by side.
TEAM NASSER
thankyou so much you just made my day... thats the funniest shit i have ever heard your the most delusional person on getbig :)
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Having money does not make you great, NASSER talks the truth and is a wise person. Arnold once slept with many women and cheated on his wife, he is garbage as a person, Nasser as a BBer would destroy him in his prime if they stood side by side.
TEAM NASSER
Hahaha keep telling yourself that. Most people don't know who Nasser is. Everyone knows who Arnold Schwarzenegger is. Arnold is the leader of the 5th largest economy in the world. Nasser is nothing comapred to Arnold, nothing.
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cool pic
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=222021;image)
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Arnolds greatness will never be duplicated. Truly a completely awesome physique.
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Arnie is a legend in this sport.I would have to agree with that compare Arnie who has won the olympia seven times compare to Nasser who hasent won the Olympia.
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that half wog is half the man arnold is/was
That half what?
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That half what?
Wog. Anyone who is like middle eastern or italian or greek or whatever. Us Aussies use that term a lot.
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Arnold is half the bodybuilder Nasser is! :o
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i286/JamesPhoenix/hugenasser.jpg)
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Arnold is half the bodybuilder Nasser is! :o
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Stick to cutting yourself dickhead.
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Stick to cutting yourself dickhead.
Speaking of cuts...
Check out the cuts on Huge Nasser El Sonbaty :o
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i286/JamesPhoenix/Nassertricepspulldown.jpg)
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Speaking of cuts...
Check out the cuts on Huge Nasser El Sonbaty :o
All i see is a photoshopped pic and loads of oil ::) ::)
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All i see is a photoshopped pic and loads of oil ::) ::)
No oil here webcke_112; Nasser is hard as a rock and looking fierce!
He's certainly not impressed by the likes of you.
No, Huge Nasser El Sonbaty's expression is that of a man clearly displeased by your blatant disrespect.
Repent now.
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i286/JamesPhoenix/aggressivegrowth.jpg)
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too much homoerotic in this thread ::)
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too much homoerotic in this thread ::)
Whats gay about it? Its pics of one of the greatest bodybuilders ever, and some pics of Nasser.
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training his massive shoulders, and on the shores of sydney, australia.
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Whats gay about it? Its pics of one of the greatest bodybuilders ever, and some pics of Nasser.
OK. You'll find your way! :-*
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Arnold is my homeboy. 8)
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Arnold is a god.
He was wise enough to leave boring-ass Austria and conquered the world.
The rest is history.
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Arnold is my homeboy. 8)
hey pollux how are those scans coming along (re: 1970 ifbb mr world coverage)?
sergio is rolling his eyes at u, he thinks u wont do it. prove him wrong will ya. ;)
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Speaking of cuts...
Check out the cuts on Huge Nasser El Sonbaty :o
Which ones - the real ones or the photoshopped ones?
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Arnold is a god.
He was wise enough to leave boring-ass Austria and conquered the world.
The rest is history.
x2. They'll never be another Arnold.
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They'll never be another Arnold Nasser.
Fixed
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No oil here webcke_112; Nasser is hard as a rock and looking fierce!
He's certainly not impressed by the likes of you.
No, Huge Nasser El Sonbaty's expression is that of a man clearly displeased by your blatant disrespect.
Repent now.
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i286/JamesPhoenix/aggressivegrowth.jpg)
The Huge One demonstrates here that he is readdy for the battle along side with King Leonadis, this is sparta.
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hey pollux how are those scans coming along (re: 1970 ifbb mr world coverage)?
sergio is rolling his eyes at u, he thinks u wont do it. prove him wrong will ya. ;)
LOL...I thought you wanted to see the '72 Olympia report? ???
I'd have to look through my issues to see if I have the Mr. World report. My vintage muscle magazine collection mostly consist of only Arnold Schwarzenegger on the cover, so I may or may not have that report.
Anyway, let me know if you wanna see the '72 Olympia report and I'll check to see if I have the Mr. World report. I seem to be in a good mood today. ;D
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There's no way Arnold could complete his gubernatorial duties today weighing over 300 pounds with abs; the way Huge Nasser runs Getbig in dictatorship-type fashion with no perceivable opposition to his ruling.
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must every thread be destroyed by nassar ???
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Report on the '70 IFBB Mr. World from this issue...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0604.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0601.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0602.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0603.jpg)
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This debate is so old. Arnold is Numero Uno. Has been and always will be.
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Arnold is Numero Uno. Has been and always will be.
Amen! ;D
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i know, nasser is also one of them that can pull of the cool jacked look
Arnold pulled off that cool jacked look but he did it in the comforts of a 1st class seat rather than struggling in cattle class like Nasser.
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Arnold pulled off that cool jacked look but he did it in the comforts of a 1st class seat rather than struggling in cattle class like Nasser.
Or on his Gulfsteam jet as Nasser dodges his landlord because he's a little short with the rent.
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Hahaha keep telling yourself that. Most people don't know who Nasser is. Everyone knows who Arnold Schwarzenegger is. Arnold is the leader of the 5th largest economy in the world. Nasser is nothing comapred to Arnold, nothing.
Quick story:
Arnold was on a safari in Africa some years ago with guides and a small entourage.
They heard a rustling from the bush, and out came (after all extpected an exotic animal or the like) a young african boy, wearing an Arnold S. "Terminator", tattered t-shirt.
This, in and of itself, explains the true ubiquity of Arnold S.
Mike
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Sure, if the question is who is more famous, or who has more money, it's Arnold.
But if the question is who had a better physique, it's Nasser. That's about as black and white as answering who has more money between the two.
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Sure, if the question is who is more famous, or who has more money, it's Arnold.
But if the question is who had a better physique, it's Nasser. That's about as black and white as answering who has more money between the two.
who has won more olympias...ARNOLD
who has influenced entire generations to start training...ARNOLD
who has 1 of the biggest bbing contest in the world named after him.....ARNOLD
who has used his bbing carreer as a stepping stone to accomplish bigger and better things....ARNOLD
who has sold his dirty underwear over the internet....NASSER
who complaines that he couldn't win an o title because of politics......NASSER
who tries time and time again to beat his opponents and failed that he had to result in using excess amounts if oil...NASSER
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Sure, if the question is who is more famous, or who has more money, it's Arnold.
But if the question is who had a better physique, it's Nasser. That's about as black and white as answering who has more money between the two.
Look, believe it or not i do actually think Nasser has a great physique, but its impossible to say one had the better physique than the other. When Arnold was competing, the biggest guys were like maybe 240lbs, when Nasser was competing, he and others like Yates and Dillet were amongst the biggest at like what, 280lbs?
Ask anyone and most would rather look like Arnold, but again, they came from two completely different eras in bodybuilding, it is not fair to compare them.
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LOL...I thought you wanted to see the '72 Olympia report? ???
I'd have to look through my issues to see if I have the Mr. World report. My vintage muscle magazine collection mostly consist of only Arnold Schwarzenegger on the cover, so I may or may not have that report.
Anyway, let me know if you wanna see the '72 Olympia report and I'll check to see if I have the Mr. World report. I seem to be in a good mood today. ;D
thanks for those shots. yes, i did want the '72 olympia report. if ur still in a good mood, please post them up. if possible, with the full text along with pics, as i like to 'read the articles' lol.
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that last pic is really cool, massive!!
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thanks for those shots. yes, i did want the '72 olympia report. if ur still in a good mood, please post them up. if possible, with the full text along with pics, as i like to 'read the articles' lol.
Gotcha. This time around, I'll take the pics in such a way that you can read the article. ;)
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Look, believe it or not i do actually think Nasser has a great physique, but its impossible to say one had the better physique than the other. When Arnold was competing, the biggest guys were like maybe 240lbs, when Nasser was competing, he and others like Yates and Dillet were amongst the biggest at like what, 280lbs?
Ask anyone and most would rather look like Arnold, but again, they came from two completely different eras in bodybuilding, it is not fair to compare them.
Exactly my point, Arnold was 240ish and Nasser was 280ish *at a lower height*. Nuff said - Nasser's physique was in a separate league than Arnold's. That said, I do agree that it's unfair to compare physiques of people in different eras since the sport had not advanced as much back then as it has now, however I did not start the whole Nasser vs. Arnold comparisons here, it's the Arnold nuthuggers who did. It's silly to even suggest that Arnold would be able to beat any of the pros today onstage.
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There is no comparison.
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There is no comparison.
Exactly. Trying to compare Arnold's physique to Nasser's is ike trying to compare Larry Scott's physique to Arnold's.
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i dont like arnie
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i dont like arnie
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thanks for those shots. yes, i did want the '72 olympia report. if ur still in a good mood, please post them up. if possible, with the full text along with pics, as i like to 'read the articles' lol.
wow just imagine walking the beach looking like that :o
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nasser is the biggest pile of sh*t that's ever stepped on a stage and i call bullsh*t on his 300lbs with abs claim i've seen his recent pics he has a horrible gut hanging over his belt, that's not abs it's called overuse of GH. Nasser is full of oil and bullsh*t in fact he's so low brow he has to call out milos in an online interview to try to get some old debt back, why doesn't he just man up and go see milos in person? cause he's a pus*y that's why and his debt is probably all bullsh*t just like his physique.
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Nasser is good playing domino'
and looks cool wearing his fanny pack!!!
WOOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHH
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nasser is the biggest pile of sh*t that's ever stepped on a stage and i call bullsh*t on his 300lbs with abs claim i've seen his recent pics he has a horrible gut hanging over his belt, that's not abs it's called overuse of GH. Nasser is full of oil and bullsh*t in fact he's so low brow he has to call out milos in an online interview to try to get some old debt back, why doesn't he just man up and go see milos in person? cause he's a pus*y that's why and his debt is probably all bullsh*t just like his physique.
You're retarded, as this post of mine will prove:
Just because one's organs may be expanded and they are not sucking in their tummy doesn't mean that they don't have abs. In contest condition most pros have a "gut that hangs over" as you described no smaller than Nasser's, yet they still have abs....so obviously your basis of calling BS on the reitred 300 lbs with abs claim "as being due to him having a gut is baseless and irrelevant.
As for synthol, you obviously don't now that disapates within a few months if you don't "refill" on a regular basis such as 2-3 shots a week. Nasser's delts for one had scar tissue in them, and just for argument's sake even if he was using synthol it would have disapted by now. He had extensive surgeries a year ago and has had no desire to compete since then.
And anyone with half a brain would realize that Nasser was not trying to get $2550 back from Milos, otherwise he would have approached him himself and not waited 12 years, instead since $2550 doesnt mean much to Nasser he decided the right thing to do is just expose and humiliate him for being so cheap as to not repay a friend.
And as for your claim that the whole money issue is made up, why did Milos himself not deny it in his official response to Nasser? ::)
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Lets keep this a Arnold pics thread guys, throw some rare arnold pics in the mix.
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Big Bobs is the new Hulkster. How much does Nasser pay your to spend your life preaching his gospel? I have nothing against Nasser. I have everything against a man who dreams of being someone else. Be yourself Bob and stop confusing reality and fantasy.
Arnold is the KING of the hill. He is legendary. Nasser was impressive for 3 years, but is no legend in comparison to Arnold. How dare you compare the two.
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Big Bobs is the new Hulkster. How much does Nasser pay your to spend your life preaching his gospel? I have nothing against Nasser. I have everything against a man who dreams of being someone else. Be yourself Bob and stop confusing reality and fantasy.
Arnold is the KING of the hill. He is legendary. Nasser was impressive for 3 years, but is no legend in comparison to Arnold. How dare you compare the two.
Looking up to someone does not mean you try to be him. I am very much myself, thank you.
Arnold was a legend in his time. Bodybuilding as a sport was not as developed at that time and hence it was less competitive. Would Arnold have looked better if he was born later and took up bodybuilding in the 90's--of course. However, comparing his physique from the 70's to Nasser's in the late 90's is simply ludicrous because Nasser destroys him. Arnold was taller yet lighter--obviously much smaller, and had no legs and calves compared to Nasser.
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who has won more olympias...ARNOLD
who has influenced entire generations to start training...ARNOLD
who has 1 of the biggest bbing contest in the world named after him.....ARNOLD
who has used his bbing carreer as a stepping stone to accomplish bigger and better things....ARNOLD
who has sold his dirty underwear over the internet....NASSER
who complaines that he couldn't win an o title because of politics......NASSER
who tries time and time again to beat his opponents and failed that he had to result in using excess amounts if oil...NASSER
very well said 8) 8) 8)
NASSER = OWNED
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Lets keep this a Arnold pics thread guys, throw some rare arnold pics in the mix.
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Now this is one I haven't seen. Thanks, GoneAway.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=222892;image)
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Franco looks to have some 14" guns there. :-[
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Its funny how people talk all this stuff about these bodybuilders who they think is better than Arnold. Arnold is the best in bodybuilding... no one could do the same as him. Became a successful bodybuilder.. went into movies and politics. Arnold had a good build and was cool about it.. always had positive thinking and had fun in the movies. I would rather look like Arnold then 280lbs of gut and deformed body. Its ashame what bodybuilders look like today.. dont even look real.. all gut and deformed body. How can you walk around looking like your pregnant with a huge gut and call yourself a bodybuilder? I will always be a fan of Arnold.
(http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/03/14/06_arnold_60973.jpg)
(http://www.girondatalks.com/portals/86/arnold-schwarzenegger-vince-gironda.jpg)
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Arnold is impossible for me not to like...I admire his drive and focus.
He did have some droopy assed pecs though!
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TRUE...................If you want to have a ripped 45'' waist and sythanol loaded arms and look like a toad then Nasser is the shit.
Take Arnold at his prime, now Nasser was about that size (waist and shoulders) when he was 25. Hope this helps.
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Arnold is impossible for me not to like...I admire his drive and focus.
He did have some droopy assed pecs though!
And yet somehow he pulled it off pretty well. I guess it gave him character.
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I appreciate it's meant as a joke but this Nasser shit is getting fucking boring. Every single thread and there is some mention of this guy...his only contribution to bodybuilding is to complain about who ripped off who over roids and GH...and to also have made me laugh a lot when he claimed his weird delts and upper arms were all scar tissue.
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first two are around 1969, and a special shot with his idol.
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who has won more olympias...ARNOLD
who has influenced entire generations to start training...ARNOLD
who has 1 of the biggest bbing contest in the world named after him.....ARNOLD
who has used his bbing carreer as a stepping stone to accomplish bigger and better things....ARNOLD
who has sold his dirty underwear over the internet....NASSER
who complaines that he couldn't win an o title because of politics......NASSER
who tries time and time again to beat his opponents and failed that he had to result in using excess amounts if oil...NASSER
who makes up stuff on the internet...AUSSIEPRO
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who makes up stuff on the internet...AUSSIEPRO
yeah good work there is no denying that i'm right, you just keep idolising a washed up oil bag for the achievements he could never achieve,
And by the way i didn't make anything up everything i wrote was true
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yeah good work there is no denying that i'm right, you just keep idolising a washed up oil bag for the achievements he could never achieve,
And by the way i didn't make anything up everything i wrote was true
Ok, show me where I can buy Nasser's dirty underwear.
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This is an interesting thread.
I cannot belieeeeeeeve that so many grown men can be so girlishly devoted to a fuckin' bodybuilder they never met (be it Battyboy or Arnold Chickenburger) and who surely would not give a fuck for them if they ever did meet.
It's like listening to schoolgirls comparing Justin Timberlake to David Cassidy.
For the sake of objective argument though, Arnold had a far prettier physique that Nasser, but then Arnold had a better shape than most people. His muscles just seemed to flow together well, a good all-round package, as distinct from a physique that looks like a collection of separate parts.
Nasser's sheer bulk is striking in an animal way, but his huge joints make him look like a wall, a Marvel-Comics freakshow.
Now... Someone said that Arnold had a physique and was cool with it. Not always.
In his Munich days, perhaps after a beer or ten, he would tear off his shirt in a restaurant, flex his muscles. In London and elsewhere in England, during the year between the '66 and '67 NABBA Amateur Unis, he used to flex his arms and declare them the largest arms in the world (predating use of the same phrase by Hulk Hogan LOL!) They may well have been, until Lou Ferrigno came of age and crashed the size party. But it's a tad-bit puerile to go around boasting about it, don'tcha think?
Does the above sound like being 'cool with it'? I think not.
That was of course his youth. He went through a relatively cool phase in the mid-to-late Seventies, the floppy collar-length hair, the tight shirts, jeans and cowboy boots. And the first half of the Eighties, with his spiked hair and tongue-in-cheek muscle movies. Also significant was his maintaining about 210lbs hard-ish, so that he looked relatively normal in clothes, getting regular movie roles as opposed to always being a BBer.
(Briefly returning to Nasser, that's the difference between a modern-day monster BBer and say a retired Arnold or Dave Draper. If you're 6' plus and weigh 200-240, you can get away with wearing suits. If you're a Nasser, a Markus Ruhl or a Ron Coleman, sub-6' and weighing over 300, wearing a suit makes you look like a clown, no matter how well tailored that suit may be)
Back to Arnold, and for the past twenty years or so, he's been anything but cool. Tinting his hair for a start. Men tinting out grey is a big pet puke-out of mine, and the older a man gets, the more pathetic it looks. I think there's something far more dignified and distinguished about a natural, steely-grey look. It matches the ageing skin of the face.
Then there's the vanity surgery. You can have too much of a good thing. That first facelift is a greasy pole. Like Mariusz Pudzianowski... LOL!
And lastly, Arnold's mincing his words over his past steroid use. Some of the horseshit he expects the world to swallow. Like the heart-valve thing was due to a 'congenital defect'. Yeah right, and I'm Miss Piggy.
Best of all was his statement that he'd used steroids only to maintain muscle while cutting for a contest. The implication being that he built his 235lbs on chicken alone.
Wouldn't it be more dignified to remind the press and the world that his gear use is none of their business?
Unbelieveable. Definitely not cool.
TNBT
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Can any pro today pull off the pose at 00:31 without looking like a complete jackass?
I don't think so
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lets get back to the topic, shall we?
(interesting article about arnold and franco in 1972 - http://www.kinky-kellie.com/arnoldkellieaffair.html)
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This is an interesting thread.
I cannot belieeeeeeeve that so many grown men can be so girlishly devoted to a fuckin' bodybuilder they never met (be it Battyboy or Arnold Chickenburger) and who surely would not give a fuck for them if they ever did meet.
It's like listening to schoolgirls comparing Justin Timberlake to David Cassidy.
For the sake of objective argument though, Arnold had a far prettier physique that Nasser, but then Arnold had a better shape than most people. His muscles just seemed to flow together well, a good all-round package, as distinct from a physique that looks like a collection of separate parts.
Nasser's sheer bulk is striking in an animal way, but his huge joints make him look like a wall, a Marvel-Comics freakshow.
Now... Someone said that Arnold had a physique and was cool with it. Not always.
In his Munich days, perhaps after a beer or ten, he would tear off his shirt in a restaurant, flex his muscles. In London and elsewhere in England, during the year between the '66 and '67 NABBA Amateur Unis, he used to flex his arms and declare them the largest arms in the world (predating use of the same phrase by Hulk Hogan LOL!) They may well have been, until Lou Ferrigno came of age and crashed the size party. But it's a tad-bit puerile to go around boasting about it, don'tcha think?
Does the above sound like being 'cool with it'? I think not.
That was of course his youth. He went through a relatively cool phase in the mid-to-late Seventies, the floppy collar-length hair, the tight shirts, jeans and cowboy boots. And the first half of the Eighties, with his spiked hair and tongue-in-cheek muscle movies. Also significant was his maintaining about 210lbs hard-ish, so that he looked relatively normal in clothes, getting regular movie roles as opposed to always being a BBer.
(Briefly returning to Nasser, that's the difference between a modern-day monster BBer and say a retired Arnold or Dave Draper. If you're 6' plus and weigh 200-240, you can get away with wearing suits. If you're a Nasser, a Markus Ruhl or a Ron Coleman, sub-6' and weighing over 300, wearing a suit makes you look like a clown, no matter how well tailored that suit may be)
Back to Arnold, and for the past twenty years or so, he's been anything but cool. Tinting his hair for a start. Men tinting out grey is a big pet puke-out of mine, and the older a man gets, the more pathetic it looks. I think there's something far more dignified and distinguished about a natural, steely-grey look. It matches the ageing skin of the face.
Then there's the vanity surgery. You can have too much of a good thing. That first facelift is a greasy pole. Like Mariusz Pudzianowski... LOL!
And lastly, Arnold's mincing his words over his past steroid use. Some of the horseshit he expects the world to swallow. Like the heart-valve thing was due to a 'congenital defect'. Yeah right, and I'm Miss Piggy.
Best of all was his statement that he'd used steroids only to maintain muscle while cutting for a contest. The implication being that he built his 235lbs on chicken alone.
Wouldn't it be more dignified to remind the press and the world that his gear use is none of their business?
Unbelieveable. Definitely not cool.
TNBT
Back on to the thread, Arnold kills nasser
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Back on to the thread, Arnold kills nasser
Where can I buy Nasser's dirty underwear?
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my faves
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Everyone who says Arnold's physique is better than Nasser's has still not addressed my earlier claim that Nasser had Arnold's proportions when he was only 25 and working out seroiusly for about 5 years. Further, Nasser grew and improved much since then, eventually putting him in a different league than Arnold.
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Where can I buy Nasser's dirty underwear?
what the hell is wrong with you?
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A physique fads, as evident by Nasser late in his career having to use synthol in one of his former strongest bodyparts. Arnolds Legacy will be around for a long time.
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A physique fads, as evident by Nasser late in his career having to use synthol in one of his former strongest bodyparts. Arnolds Legacy will be around for a long time.
Physique fades huh? ::)
Retired Nasser at 300+ lbs with abs
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191759.0;attach=222639;image)
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Physique fades huh? ::)
Retired Nasser at 300+ lbs with abs
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191759.0;attach=222639;image)
Yeh but look at his lack of hair ;D
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AussiePro, you are a nuthuggin' guy and three-quarters. What do you mean back to the thread? Was I not discussing Arnie in a thread named Arnie Pics? Did I not continue the Arnold v Nasser theme?
I thought it was comprehensive and fair. Clearly pointing up Arnold's personality flaws sticks in your craw, you being the dirtbox-licking, fawning, obsequious, calflike shitbag you so clearly are.
That pic of Schwarzenegger at Sydney. Was that from his trip to the '80 Olympia, wherein Arnold made such a blatantly poor showing yet 'won' anyway, that the Aussie crowd showed their appreciation by jeering, chanting Bull-shit! Bull-shit!, and lobbing chairs at the stage in disgust? LOL! Good old Australians, eh? If such a farce had taken place in Los Angeles, no doubt the crowd would have cheered Arnold! Arnold! like obedient little droids.
The fact that none of the fun 'n' games found its way onto the video or later DVD of the show, is a testament to the fact that you, AussiePro(stitute) are not the only wanker to jam his head up Arnold's hallowed asspipe.
You poor deluded prick. Shoot yourself.
LOLOL!
TNBT
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Everyone who says Arnold's physique is better than Nasser's has still not addressed my earlier claim that Nasser had Arnold's proportions when he was only 25 and working out seroiusly for about 5 years. Further, Nasser grew and improved much since then, eventually putting him in a different league than Arnold.
ill address it.If Arnold kept competing into his mid 30s without that 5 year break he would have won alot more than he did, Nasser went way into his 30s and won nothing , id say Arnold was in a much higher league ;D
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BigBobs, where, pray tell, in that Nasser golf shot are his abs in evidence?
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Physique fades huh? Roll Eyes
Retired Nasser at 300+ lbs with abs
You really love that guy don't u bro? :D :D :D
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AussiePro, I've remembered who it is you remind me of... You know that silly young booby who used to follow the teenage Arnold around back in Austria? The one who Wendy Leigh referred to as Mr R?
The one who spent a couple of weeks eating nutshells and salt on Arnold's advice, wound up breaking out in spots, maybe in a hospital, if you believe the fables.
Is he your grandfather, mate?
TNBT
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AussiePro, I've remembered who it is you remind me of... You know that silly young booby who used to follow the teenage Arnold around back in Austria? The one who Wendy Leigh referred to as Mr R?
The one who spent a couple of weeks eating nutshells and salt on Arnold's advice, wound up breaking out in spots, maybe in a hospital, if you believe the fables.
Is he your grandfather, mate?
TNBT
And i'll tell you who you remind me of, your the guy who comes to the gym who gets all dressed up as if you were going out to a club, sets everything up on a bench press and loads 100 pounds and cranking out quarter reps yelling at the top of your lungs. Then waiting 10 minutes between sets and watching all the bigger people in the gym and saying shit like there all drugs or there nothing compared to me (meanwhile you only weigh 60kgs = 130 pounds).
then going home and measuring your massive 13 inch arms and crying to your mum that they haven't grown in years, so then you procede to get on the internet and try to bash people who actually go to the gym and have something positive to say about the world.....
Oh and i know what your gonna say next...MELTDOWN, hahah you loser
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This is an interesting thread.
I cannot belieeeeeeeve that so many grown men can be so girlishly devoted to a fuckin' bodybuilder they never met (be it Battyboy or Arnold Chickenburger) and who surely would not give a fuck for them if they ever did meet.
It's like listening to schoolgirls comparing Justin Timberlake to David Cassidy.
For the sake of objective argument though, Arnold had a far prettier physique that Nasser, but then Arnold had a better shape than most people. His muscles just seemed to flow together well, a good all-round package, as distinct from a physique that looks like a collection of separate parts.
Nasser's sheer bulk is striking in an animal way, but his huge joints make him look like a wall, a Marvel-Comics freakshow.
Now... Someone said that Arnold had a physique and was cool with it. Not always.
In his Munich days, perhaps after a beer or ten, he would tear off his shirt in a restaurant, flex his muscles. In London and elsewhere in England, during the year between the '66 and '67 NABBA Amateur Unis, he used to flex his arms and declare them the largest arms in the world (predating use of the same phrase by Hulk Hogan LOL!) They may well have been, until Lou Ferrigno came of age and crashed the size party. But it's a tad-bit puerile to go around boasting about it, don'tcha think?
Does the above sound like being 'cool with it'? I think not.
That was of course his youth. He went through a relatively cool phase in the mid-to-late Seventies, the floppy collar-length hair, the tight shirts, jeans and cowboy boots. And the first half of the Eighties, with his spiked hair and tongue-in-cheek muscle movies. Also significant was his maintaining about 210lbs hard-ish, so that he looked relatively normal in clothes, getting regular movie roles as opposed to always being a BBer.
(Briefly returning to Nasser, that's the difference between a modern-day monster BBer and say a retired Arnold or Dave Draper. If you're 6' plus and weigh 200-240, you can get away with wearing suits. If you're a Nasser, a Markus Ruhl or a Ron Coleman, sub-6' and weighing over 300, wearing a suit makes you look like a clown, no matter how well tailored that suit may be)
Back to Arnold, and for the past twenty years or so, he's been anything but cool. Tinting his hair for a start. Men tinting out grey is a big pet puke-out of mine, and the older a man gets, the more pathetic it looks. I think there's something far more dignified and distinguished about a natural, steely-grey look. It matches the ageing skin of the face.
Then there's the vanity surgery. You can have too much of a good thing. That first facelift is a greasy pole. Like Mariusz Pudzianowski... LOL!
And lastly, Arnold's mincing his words over his past steroid use. Some of the horseshit he expects the world to swallow. Like the heart-valve thing was due to a 'congenital defect'. Yeah right, and I'm Miss Piggy.
Best of all was his statement that he'd used steroids only to maintain muscle while cutting for a contest. The implication being that he built his 235lbs on chicken alone.
Wouldn't it be more dignified to remind the press and the world that his gear use is none of their business?
Unbelieveable. Definitely not cool.
TNBT
Superb post.
Miken
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oak.
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ill address it.If Arnold kept competing into his mid 30s without that 5 year break he would have won alot more than he did, Nasser went way into his 30s and won nothing , id say Arnold was in a much higher league ;D
You didnt address shit, sorry, lol. The reason Arnold won more shows than Nasser is because the competition was much less fierce in Arnold's time - has nothing to do with his physique being better. Using that logic one can say "Frank Zane and Larry Scott had better physiques than Victor Martinez, Flex Wheeler, Kevin Levrone, etc." becauset hey won Mr. Olympia titles.
I did acknowledge earlier that it's not really fair to compare physiques of pro bodybuilders from today to past generations, but am doing so since nuthuggers are still claiming that Arnold's physique in the 70's looked better than Nasser's in the 90's.
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BigBobs, where, pray tell, in that Nasser golf shot are his abs in evidence?
TNBT
You can tell he's very lean from his forearms, calves, and lower quads that are exposed. Leaner than one has to be at that size to have visible abs.
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Very lean my ass. He wasn't very lean at his last contest.
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God damn it Teamsters! Stop making this a arnold vs The Huge One thread! aussiepro you too! are you stupid, why compare the 2. Its different era.
The Huge One comes close to Arnold, The Huge One is one of the best bodybuilders grace the stage, but Arnold is bodybuilding.
Its not a shame to come second to arnold, arnold is big in all the things he did. All the way big dude.
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this thread is dedicated to arnold pics, as it should be. let's keep it that way. any other topics can be directed to other areas of the board.
1980 arnold. possibly his last bbing photoshoot.
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man, Arnold had it all. It simply cannot get better than that for the realistic person not willing to do the drug cocktails of today's pros.
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more of the Austrian Oak around the time of the 1980 Mr Olympia
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God damn it Teamsters! Stop making this a arnold vs The Huge One thread! aussiepro you too! are you stupid, why compare the 2. Its different era.
The Huge One comes close to Arnold, The Huge One is one of the best bodybuilders grace the stage, but Arnold is bodybuilding.
Its not a shame to come second to arnold, arnold is big in all the things he did. All the way big dude.
ok ill stop turning it into arnold VS nasser,
just enjoy the photos
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Thank you, Miken. Nice to be appreciated.
Those 1980 pics taken outdoors, he looks better in those than he did onstage! Must be something going on there. Anyone know if the pics were taken before/after the show, or both? Could it be that Arnold's timing was off!? :o
Oh, and if you believe his I-trained-eight-weeks-for-the-show hogshit, then you're a couple of amps short of a cycle LOL!
However long he trained intensively for the 1980, can't help but think he must've gone back to his 1960s Austrian training credo - disregard legs.
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i assume they were either 7 days before/after the olympia. it's not that unbelievable that he trained for 8 weeks specifically for the olympia, since he was in good shape already for conan the barbian.
a few pics of the Oak, circa '68?
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exelent thread of some rare pictures of Arnold !
finaly somebody not repost 10000 times the same pictures from year to year, but share relativly unseen pictures of Arnold.
GONEAWAY,POST IT MORE PLEASE !!!
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exelent thread of some rare pictures of Arnold !
finaly somebody not repost 10000 times the same pictures from year to year, but share relativly unseen pictures of Arnold.
GONEAWAY,POST IT MORE PLEASE !!!
+1 very interesting!!
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1980 arnold. possibly his last bbing photoshoot.
Indeed it is. Courtesy of George Butler and Albert Busek.
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I'll post some rare never-before-seen Arnold pics from the 1980 Mr. Olympia. This will be rare to most since I will be scanning the pics from Albert Busek's Sport Revue -- a German publication. Stay tuned...
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Alright, bitches! Enjoy... :)
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And i'll tell you who you remind me of, your the guy who comes to the gym who gets all dressed up as if you were going out to a club, sets everything up on a bench press and loads 100 pounds and cranking out quarter reps yelling at the top of your lungs. Then waiting 10 minutes between sets and watching all the bigger people in the gym and saying shit like there all drugs or there nothing compared to me (meanwhile you only weigh 60kgs = 130 pounds).
then going home and measuring your massive 13 inch arms and crying to your mum that they haven't grown in years, so then you procede to get on the internet and try to bash people who actually go to the gym and have something positive to say about the world.....
Oh and i know what your gonna say next...MELTDOWN, hahah you loser
LOL! Did I strike a nerve then, Oz? I have positive things to say about the world, now and then. You, on the other hand, are nauseatingly devoted to one man. You have Arnold on a pedestal higher than Muscle Rock.
Did you know that Arnold used to have Franco on a pedestal? But he still only came up to his chin!
For the record, my guns measure 13-and-a-half inches, and I load 105lbs on the bar for bench press.
Why would anyone dress for a club to go to the gym? You didn't think that through, did you?
Oh, and 60kg is 132lbs, if you're gonna be pedantic, be accurate too.
Watching the bigger people in the gym? Why would I care about size? Surely BB is just as much about proportions if not more so.
For example, what use is a 20" arm if you have elbows like someone's knees? Not all that impressive, is it? It's all relative, as they say.
Hope this helps, Dude.
Seriously though, are you really a pro? I'd sooner talk than bitch. Take the above in jest, kay?
TNBT
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Damn! I don't get love for posting the Arnie pics from my magazine colllection?! :(
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I never saw Arnold in bodybuilding clothes 24/7. Fuck nasser you ass greaser
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
A rare article about Arnold's "knee incident"...
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foking great pics guys!
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I see no pics of Arnie Palmer ???
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Damn! I don't get love for posting the Arnie pics from my magazine colllection?! :(
yes you do! very cool pics :-*
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yes, thanks once again pollux. apparently arnold refused to complete 2 of the 8 mandatories, and this was apparently the reason why the ABC sports coverage decided not to broadcast the event (even though they had --i assume-- been filming it all right up to the end of the show.) they claimed that he shouldn't have won in a true sporting ethical code, whereby one must stick to the rules of the sport. but i'm not even 100% sure if it says that one must complete all 8 mandatories, so maybe someone can shed some more light on this topic.
this picture, by Frank Hollfelder, is apparently taken from a Tomorrow's Man magazine in the early 1960's.
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
A rare article about Arnold's "knee incident"...
Funny how that pic to the right is the best triceps shot of Arnold ever.
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yes you do! very cool pics :-*
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yes, thanks once again pollux. apparently arnold refused to complete 2 of the 8 mandatories, and this was apparently the reason why the ABC sports coverage decided not to broadcast the event (even though they had --i assume-- been filming it all right up to the end of the show.) they claimed that he shouldn't have won in a true sporting ethical code, whereby one must stick to the rules of the sport. but i'm not even 100% sure if it says that one must complete all 8 mandatories, so maybe someone can shed some more light on this topic.
this picture, by Frank Hollfelder, is apparently taken from a Tomorrow's Man magazine in the early 1960's.
Really? I've never heard that before. Would you happen to know what the two poses he refused to do were? ???
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this picture, by Frank Hollfelder, is apparently taken from a Tomorrow's Man magazine in the early 1960's.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=223654;image)
These Frank Hollfelder photos appeared in Youth in Art...
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pollux, thanks for the pics! the side-tri shot on the bottom left of the bottom picture is from the photoshoot that i posted above.
as for question regarding the 80 olympia, this is what Gene Mozee, at bbing.com forums, had to say:
Speaking of judging, Wayne Demilia told me that the reason that ABC Television cancelled broadcasting the Mr. Olympia was due to the judges' overlooking Arnold's failure to perform two compulsory poses at the 1980 Olympia in Australia. When the decision came down that Arnold had won the contest, ABC officials asked how can a man win when he fails to do all of the required poses when requested by the judges? ABC said this was unacceptable as a legitimate athletic run event and they were cancelling all future broadcasts. If this is true,The Terminator helped terminate TV coverage of the Olympia on Wide World of Sports.
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pollux, thanks for the pics! the side-tri shot on the bottom left of the bottom picture is from the photoshoot that i posted above.
as for question regarding the 80 olympia, this is what Gene Mozee, at bbing.com forums, had to say:
Thanks, GoneAway, for posting what Gene said.
And yes, that photo is from the same photoshoot. In fact, the others are by Frank as well.
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Funny how that pic to the right is the best triceps shot of Arnold ever.
There is a better one in Bob Kennedy's "Superstars of BB" book (think that's the name...
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Pollux:
Great Pics!
Mike
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I, too, had heard he refused to do some of themandatories...anyone know which?
Mike
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Pollux:
Great Pics!
Mike
Thanks, brutha! 8)
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Arnold was mainly critisized for his lack of leg development.
Legs were not as important back then as they are now.
He broke a leg at some point which I'm sure set him back somewhat.
I've got a few pics where his legs look in proportion and pretty big.
I think with his drive he would have been able with to develop his legs
to todays standards but probably at the expense of a wider/thicker waist.
The legs in the first pic look especially thick.
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1st pic: I don't know if this pic for biceps peak will ever be equaled.
It's so peaked it looks like it hurts.
2nd pic: I remember seeing this pic the first time in the mid 80's on
my local gym's wall. They had just gotten it. My workout partner
commented that it looked like he had elephantitis of the muscles..
Which is a good thing!
3rd Pic: Very impressive even by todays standards.
4th pic: 1974 Olympia - Most consider 73 or 74 Olympias as his best.
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From what I remember, it was CBS that was filming the 1980 Olympia, not ABC. I doubt that they would refuse to broadcast the contest because Arnold didn't do all the mandatory poses. The only pose he did not do was the side triceps pose. He would do a side bicep pose instead. I think the reason CBS did not broadcast the contest was because there were a lot of people in the audience booing when Arnold won and it was very controversial that he won. I also remember reading that 60 Minutes was going to do an expose on the contest and it's controversy but that never came about. Also, this was not the last Mr. Olympia that was broadcast on TV. The 1982, 1983 and 1984 Mr. Olympia's were all broadcast on national television.
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Was he reported to have omitted a couple of poses, or flat out refused to do them?
Ya think he would be arrogant enough to be like Hey, I'm Arnold, if I don't want to do something, you can't make me, and I'll still win! You wear the IFBB blazers, but I'm in charge. ???
There are those who believe that the '80 Olympia essentially became a protracted publicity trailer for Arnold's burgeoning movie career. I wouldn't be surprised at all. Most of us will never know for sure.
Now... Those very early Arnold pics down there. Those are the kind of pics that remind the rest of us that the great Arnold is human, and that he once looked rather unremarkable. Having said that, it was obvious from very early on that his arms were a bit special.
Between Europe and the States, it's clear that someone took him aside and showed him how to pose, eh?
Those pics, I suspect that they are from 1964, which would make him 16 or perhaps 17. By 1965's contest season, at 18 years of age, he was way better than that, thicker. Have a look at the Mr Europe Junior pics in his autobio.
By the way, note that he's referred to in the copy as a 'model' LOL! And that chair shot reeks of faggotry!
The age discrepancy can be easily explained, I think. Maybe the photographer/mag editor required models to be 18 or older, keep shit above board. We all know Arnold's never been above bending the truth!
Maybe he lied about his name too. Whoever did the write-up thought his name was Arnold Schwanenecker LOL! (Is that German for 'swan-neck'?)
Then in another shot, his name is Schwarzenger!
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Between Europe and the States, it's clear that someone took him aside and showed him how to pose, eh?
Yeah...Wag Bennett. The same man who made Exodus Arnold's primary posing music.
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Have a look at the Mr Europe Junior pics in his autobio.
Actually, the photos you're referring to in his autobiography are often mislabeled as said contest when in fact they are NOT!
Those photos are from the '66 Best Built Athlete of Europe contest organized by Peter Gottlob and Kraft Sport Revue magazine which can be found in the Nr. 28-30 issues. ;)
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Oh yeah, the Bennetts. Dianne also showed Arnold a thing or two, eh? LOL!
You a bit of an Arnold afficionado then, Pollux?
I used to love the guy too, but the Wendy Leigh book kinda showed him up for who he is.
I think she gave him a fair shake though. She detailed his good deeds too.
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Mislabelled? How the hell could Arnold have overlooked that, assuming that he paid attention to the content of the book, which he most certainly would've.
Looking at those pics, the only guy who looked close to his bulk/quality was (I think) Franz Dischinger, a guy he used to train with. The others just looked shit.
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Oh yeah, the Bennetts. Dianne also showed Arnold a thing or two, eh? LOL!
You a bit of an Arnold afficionado then, Pollux?
I used to love the guy too, but the Wendy Leigh book kinda showed him up for who he is.
I think she gave him a fair shake though. She detailed his good deeds too.
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I think it was Arnold who showed Dianne! LOL
As for being an 'Arnold aficionado'? Yeah, you can say that. ;D
And the Wendy Leigh book was GREAT! 8)
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Mislabelled? How the hell could Arnold have overlooked that, assuming that he paid attention to the content of the book, which he most certainly would've.
Keep in mind though that Arnold's autobiography book was not solely done alone. Enter Douglas Kent Hall. In the E! True Hollywood Story, Douglas had been on camera as saying that Arnold missed his father's funeral because he was training for a contest -- WRONG!
Arnold himself said that wasn't the reason per Pumping Iron DVD.
So I can see why you would think 'How can Arnold himself be wrong about those photos?' I'm sure it was Douglas who was wrong.
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Looking at those pics, the only guy who looked close to his bulk/quality was (I think) Franz Dischinger, a guy he used to train with.
Yes, Franz was Germany's 'It' man, till Arnold came along. ;D
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HAH! Arnold can't touch this shit!
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HAH! Arnold can't touch this shit!
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He did...AND beat it. ;D
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He did...AND beat it. ;D
pfffftttttt,
just like jay cutler wone the olympia this year... with those fact's taken in aspect, sure, "arnie beat him"
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Christ, Nubret's trunk-furniture is obscene in that beach shot LOL!
I think Nubret is an example of a great set of parts. He didn't have the separated-but-together look that Arnold did.
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Christ, Nubret's trunk-furniture is obscene in that beach shot LOL!
I think Nubret is an example of a great set of parts. He didn't have the separated-but-together look that Arnold did.
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Arnold had probably a little boy penis just like we all do, you gotta admire the beastness of nubret. He would not only get quality white daughter's, but please them as well.
Unlike Arnold who had to lick her for hour's and use finger's and dildo's and, and even then she asked arnold; "So are you in me yet"
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My cock's a big fat fuck! :) He got bullied at cock-school... :(
Pollux, so what d'ya think of Pumping Iron then? Is it just me or does everyone in that movie come off like a clown?
Louie Ferrigno and his dad Quincy. Matty gave up his cop job to train Louis! He clearly knew nothing about bodybuilding, and Lou was too dumb to see that.
Had to laugh in the gym in NY, preparing for defeat in Pretoria... I need ten pounds... I gadda do mooah! Then his voice leaped up a coupla octaves... I wanna BEAT um!
LOL at his half-rep military press!
Also, did you notice in the pose-off that Lou had neglected to shave his underarms?
Ah fuck it, it's only the most prestigious BB show of the year. It's not like there were cameras or anything...
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Pollux, so what d'ya think of Pumping Iron then? Is it just me or does everyone in that movie come off like a clown?
I wouldn't say 'clowns' per se. Just not very charismatic.
I LOVE Pumping Iron, it's great! It would be the shit if they release an exclusive DVD box set containing yet MORE outtakes!
The Comeback can join the bandwagon and have its own DVD release. Say, a 27th anniversary special edition. ;D
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I will say Lou "The Incredible Jerk" Ferrigno definitely kept the humor in Pumping Iron. Now he, you can say, was a clown! :D
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Was tehere a side triceps mandatary pose back in the 70/80ies, never did i see arnold pull it.
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Was tehere a side triceps mandatary pose back in the 70/80ies, never did i see arnold pull it.
Yes. He did that pose at the '66 NABBA Universe...
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The only person that had a chance of beating Arnold
back then was Sergio and it amazes me that he didn't have
the desire or discipline to diet his arse off to defeat Arnold.
He possibly should have won in 1972 but I'm still not impressed
by the definition he displayed. Arnold looked much better in 1973-74
because he knew Sergio may have come back. At one point in my
naive youth I dieted down on 500-750 calories a day for a freakin
state fair contest and probably reached 5% body fat. Here is a guy
going for the greatest bodybuilding title in the world, with probably the greatest
genetics and he shows up 80% of the time semi-smooth.
Arnold was the best of his time because he did what it took to win.
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This is by far THE BEST Arnold picture I have ever seen -- flawless!
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From what I remember, it was CBS that was filming the 1980 Olympia, not ABC. I doubt that they would refuse to broadcast the contest because Arnold didn't do all the mandatory poses. The only pose he did not do was the side triceps pose. He would do a side bicep pose instead. I think the reason CBS did not broadcast the contest was because there were a lot of people in the audience booing when Arnold won and it was very controversial that he won. I also remember reading that 60 Minutes was going to do an expose on the contest and it's controversy but that never came about. Also, this was not the last Mr. Olympia that was broadcast on TV. The 1982, 1983 and 1984 Mr. Olympia's were all broadcast on national television.
My apologies if i was wrong. was just going by tidbits from various websites.
apparently, the 1980 olympia is available on video. Here is a quote from Chuck Lambert:
the 1980 Mr. Olympia is available on video, apperently the Australian News recorded the entire contest. I purchased it recently...
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/archive/index.php?t-651081.html
if anyone is able to obtain this, or already has it, please let me know via PM, as i would be interested in purchasing it.
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Pollux(et al)...
Go to Dave Draper's site (great site, as you probably know)...HE has a shot of him, Arnold and Reg Park (at the 1970 Universe) where they are ALL doing back lat spreads...and Draper smokes Arnold.
That's another pose hard to find of Arnold, but it's there.
As I mentioned in another post, there is a left-sided tricep shot, full paged photo in Bob Kennedy's "Superstars of BB" book...unsure if that's the exact name...I'd have to dig it up.
But it's in there.
Mike
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The only person that had a chance of beating Arnold
back then was Sergio and it amazes me that he didn't have
the desire or discipline to diet his arse off to defeat Arnold.
He possibly should have won in 1972 but I'm still not impressed
by the definition he displayed. Arnold looked much better in 1973-74
because he knew Sergio may have come back. At one point in my
naive youth I dieted down on 500-750 calories a day for a freakin
state fair contest and probably reached 5% body fat. Here is a guy
going for the greatest bodybuilding title in the world, with probably the greatest
genetics and he shows up 80% of the time semi-smooth.
Arnold was the best of his time because he did what it took to win.
Arnolds chest and back look freaking rediculous in those shots!!
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=223829;image)
Incredible physique.
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if anyone is able to obtain this, or already has it, please let me know via PM, as i would be interested in purchasing it.
Why don't you just purchase it off a website? I have it and it's worth the price...provided you're an 'Arnold guy' like myself. ;D
You should REALLY pick up Arnold: The Early Years if you don't already have it.
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As I mentioned in another post, there is a left-sided tricep shot, full paged photo in Bob Kennedy's "Superstars of BB" book...unsure if that's the exact name...I'd have to dig it up.
But it's in there.
Mike
Is this the picture you keep referring to? If so, it's in Robert Kennedy's Muscle Quest: Training Secrets of the Superstars...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0668.jpg)
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Why don't you just purchase it off a website? I have it and it's worth the price...provided you're an 'Arnold guy' like myself. ;D
You should REALLY pick up Arnold: The Early Years if you don't already have it.
i have heard that the 1980 olympia on gmv.com.au isn't the full contest, so that's why i was curious to see if anyone did have it in its entirety. i will be purchasing his early years dvd soon, as i have wanted that for a long time now. btw, that side-triceps shot really is amazing.
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i have heard that the 1980 olympia on gmv.com.au isn't the full contest, so that's why i was curious to see if anyone did have it in its entirety.
As far as I know, the GMV 2 disk version is the '80 Olympia in its entirety. Any other footage that exist has never been released.
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Is this the picture you keep referring to? If so, it's in Robert Kennedy's Muscle Quest: Training Secrets of the Superstars...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0668.jpg)
Yup...that's it, Pollux. You da man!
Mike
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Yup...that's it, Pollux. You da man!
Mike
Yes I am. ;D
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I probably could have searched for a better
comparison pic but as soon as I saw the Arnold
tricep shot I thought it's shape was similar to Yates.
Although Arnold's arms are longer the shape of the triceps
muscle itself is similar to Dorian's.
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Cool and interesting comparison shot Bizzy and that was FAR from Arnold's peak, whereby it WAS Dorians, which says A LOT for how advanced Arnold really was.
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lol TBNT i think you need to stop analysing this situation so much..
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I probably could have searched for a better
comparison pic but as soon as I saw the Arnold
tricep shot I thought it's shape was similar to Yates.
Although Arnold's arms are longer the shape of the triceps
muscle itself is similar to Dorian's.
Arnold owns Dorian in that shot..
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Arnold owns Dorian in that shot..
yes he looks so much more graceful
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He does...
His upper body is still one of the best.
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Cool and interesting comparison shot Bizzy and that was FAR from Arnold's peak, whereby it WAS Dorians, which says A LOT for how advanced Arnold really was.
Exactly!
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Arnold owns Dorian in that shot..
And everyone else. ;)
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Bizzy, good work on the comparison shot! 8)
Definitely would take Arnold's physique over that grotesque figure they call Dorian...or anyone else for that matter.
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lol TBNT i think you need to stop analysing this situation so much..
I dunno what I'm supposed to make of that lame little soundbite, Tomblow. Could it be you ain't real comfy with anyone who can string a couple of sentences together?
Answer the jury, Cockboy!
TNBT
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from kraftsport revue, nr. 43. thanks to the original scanner :)
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Never seen those before :)
Those pics illustrate just how a bit of bodyfat can screw up proportion and make a guy appear smaller.
TNBT
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GoneAway, you have this issue? ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=224967;image)
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GoneAway, you have this issue? ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=224967;image)
unfortunately not. the majority of these great arnie pics are from this thread at iron age forums: http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=16169.0. u might have to be logged in to view some of the pics.
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unfortunately not. the majority of these great arnie pics are from this thread at iron age forums: http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=16169.0. u might have to be logged in to view some of the pics.
Gotcha. Thanks for sharing though. :)
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This picture appears on the cover of Sciences Culturistes -- a French bodybuilding publication. If I get around to it, maybe I'll post pics from it...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=224968;image)
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that would be great, pollux!
also, it's from the same photoshoot as the one in Arnie's Encyclopedia For The Modern Day Bodybuilder, where he is standing knee deep in a river and flexing with arms outstretched.
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that would be great, pollux!
also, it's from the same photoshoot as the one in Arnie's Encyclopedia For The Modern Day Bodybuilder, where he is standing knee deep in a river and flexing with arms outstretched.
Yeah, I remember that. Those are the only two photos I have seen from that particular photoshoot.
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>:(
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Sergio looming on the back round
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Everyone waits for the King
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;)
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Sergio looming on the back round
I don't think it's Sergio, but OK.
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I don't think it's Sergio, but OK.
It is.
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Here ya go...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0747.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0748.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0749.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0750.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0752.jpg)
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Jsut some odd ones
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It is.
Thanks, but I'll stand my ground.
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I don't think it's Sergio, but OK.
No it is.
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No it is.
As I've said, I'll stand my ground. If it is (which I doubt) I'll stand corrected.
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As I've said, I'll stand my ground. If it is (which I doubt) I'll stand corrected.
It is , from the same photo shoot it may be after the 66 Olympia his first win I believe
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It is , from the same photo shoot it may be after the 66 Olympia his first win I believe
Oliva's first O win was '67. First two Mr O's went to Larry Scott.
TNBT :)
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Oliva's first O win was '67. First two Mr O's went to Larry Scott.
TNBT :)
right my typo 67/68/69 !
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Don't type so fast, next time you'll get a ticket!
TNBT ;)
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I had to look hard at the pic of Sergio too, but then I figured how many black BBs looked like that 40 years ago? Maynard? Phillip?
Nah! Had t'be Oliva.
A
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I have this issue. The back cover has Arnold doing a three-quarter back pose. And the inside has him doing a side-chest pose. It doesn't state his age, but he's gotta be 19.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=225376;image)
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pollux, i think that IMG_0749 from Sciences Culturises is part of that photoshoot we were discussing. it almost certainly appears to be taken on the same day.
here's one of the best shots of arnold that i've ever seen.
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pollux, i think that IMG_0749 from Sciences Culturises is part of that photoshoot we were discussing. it almost certainly appears to be taken on the same day.
Yes. In fact, it is.
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I noticed Arnold's John Hancock on the pamphlet, or whatever it is. He looks superb there! And the arms -- flawless!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=225426;image)
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Here's Arnold imitating Sergio's "Victory-Pose"...
(http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16169.0;id=28235;image)
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Arnold posing along pool side shortly after the '68 IFBB Universe...
(http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16169.0;id=28238;image)
(http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16169.0;id=28239;image)
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Posing with Franz Dishinger, I believe...
(http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16169.0;id=28326;image)
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Lil' Arnie...
(http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16169.0;id=29231;image)
(http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16169.0;id=29232;image)
(http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16169.0;id=29278;image)
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Arnold and Karl Kainrath to his left...
(http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16169.0;id=27519;image)
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Now this is a rare pic of Arnold , salt & pepper lol
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Now this is a rare pic of Arnold , salt & pepper lol
NarcissisticDeity, cool shit... most likely circa 1988....
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:o
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I'm a pretty big Arnold fan.
I thought I've seen every Arnold pic, but this thread really delivers with the rarities.
Good stuff.
Arnold is almost as good as Nasser and that's saying a lot.
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:-X
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i seriously doubt that's arnold
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i seriously doubt that's arnold
Why? he is Austrian his father was a Nazi
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i seriously doubt that's arnold
Its Arnolds dad aka Gustav Schwarzenegger aka member of the Nazi party
lol..check out the nazi stach
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/GustavSchwarzenegger.gif)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_Schwarzenegger
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Its Arnolds dad aka Gustav Schwarzenegger aka member of the Nazi party
lol..check out the nazi stach
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/GustavSchwarzenegger.gif)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_Schwarzenegger
ok gotcha
i thought i saw some resemblance but i knew that wasn't arnie
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ok gotcha
i thought i saw some resemblance but i knew that wasn't arnie
It is Arnold
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I'm a pretty big Arnold fan.
I thought I've seen every Arnold pic, but this thread really delivers with the rarities.
Good stuff.
Arnold is almost as good as Nasser and that's saying a lot.
Arnold is almost as good as nasser... you've gotta be smoking some good shit dude... Nasser is nothing compared to Arnold.. Arnold is bbing nasser is oil
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Very cool! Never seen this pic before. Taken at the post '66 NABBA Universe dance...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=225535;image)
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Arnold is almost as good as nasser... you've gotta be smoking some good shit dude... Nasser is nothing compared to Arnold.. Arnold is bbing nasser is oil
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i286/JamesPhoenix/aggressivegrowth.jpg)
Yeah, sure, 300 pounds with abs, but he's "oil." Do you think before you type? ::)
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Arnold is almost as good as nasser... you've gotta be smoking some good shit dude... Nasser is nothing compared to Arnold.. Arnold is bbing nasser is oil
Amen >:(
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More of the lil' acorn... ;)
(http://www.mahag.com/harry/Images/sport/arni.jpg)
(http://www.mahag.com/harry/Images/sport/arnuich.jpg)
(http://www.mahag.com/harry/Images/sport/gruppe2.jpg)
(http://www.mahag.com/harry/Images/sport/gruppe3.jpg)
(http://www.mahag.com/harry/Images/sport/bildbr.jpg)
In this last one, you can see Arnold just a bit regulated to the back...
(http://www.mahag.com/harry/Images/sport/gruppe.jpg)
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NarcissisticDeity, cool shit... most likely circa 1988....
I think that picture is actually earlier than that, around '81 or '82.
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fantastic shots, pollux! thanks :)
keep the lil' acorn pics coming if u have more of them.
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I think that picture is actually earlier than that, around '81 or '82.
Yea you're right... post Conan but pre Terminator... Arnold's Hawaiian shirt phase.
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Arnold was grey in the late '70's.
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It is Arnold
really? it doesn't really look like him. of course i could be wrong
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A very rare pic of Arnold's "illegitimate son"
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_small15.jpg)
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A very rare pic of Arnold's "illegitimate son"
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_small15.jpg)
Hey bastard, weird things going on in your triceps contour!!!
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keep the lil' acorn pics coming if u have more of them.
For sure. If I find any more I'll definitely post 'em.
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Amazing how Arnie's hair got thicker over time.
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Amazing how Arnie's hair got thicker over time.
Probably the haircut.
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:)
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awesome pic ND!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=225538;image)
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Arnold's chest and arms never cease to amaze me!
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Arnold's chest and arms never cease to amaze me!
yes! even todays guys can't measure up to his arms...only ronnie has had arms that rivals arnolds bicep peaks
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A very rare pic of Arnold's "illegitimate son"
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_small15.jpg)
Big ass forearms, what technique's do you use? reverse grip curling? Just make sure your gripp is strong you may use it against terrorists.
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Big ass forearms, what technique's do you use? reverse grip curling? Just make sure your gripp is strong you may use it against terrorists.
I do nothing direct; used to train them but the soreness started interfering with my jack off schedule.
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A very rare pic of Arnold's fat "illegitimate son" juiced to the gills and still small
Fixed
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Fixed
We're still waiting on your pics. Is there something you're afraid to show us?
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/2008-1-4_pocketPC068.jpg)
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not at all fatman ;D
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not at all fatman ;D
Would you like to post a compare shot?
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no, im not in the habit of posing with my car, posing with my house, wearing lipstick and rouge...then posting them on the internet. hahaha ;D
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yes! even todays guys can't measure up to his arms...only ronnie has had arms that rivals arnolds bicep peaks
True. But still not as pleasing as Arnold's.
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circa 1967
right click - save as and open on your desktop to get a better view of these
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circa 1967
awesome arnie pics guys, keep them coming.
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circa 1967
right click - save as and open on your desktop to get a better view of these
Ahhhhh...yes. Those pics can be found in this issue... ;)
(http://vintagemusclemags.com/magCovers/mb/mb6905.jpg)
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freaky2 is a picture where arnold's legs seem balanced to his torso...good shot
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This is great stuff :)
Those very early pics of Arnold at a municipal contest, is that the one held in some local (Graz?) hotel wherein he placed second aged 16?
His legs were terrible in those days. Not just ordinary, they look BAD!
Check out the guy in the cool-as-fuck shades 8) He and another guy look like they were spray-tanned wearing hangman hoods LOL!
I think maybe the shades were for his own protection when he looked at his oil-job!
These are more pics that give ya hope, like when you see mid-teens stills of Markus Ruhl in Made in Germany.
Unfortunately, such before-and-after examples fuel the fire of the that's-all-steroids crowd who know shit about shit ::)
NB: The most impressed I've ever been by Arnold, was Pumping Iron, when he pumps up and does a mirror-check, wearing a yellow Gold's vest. Awesome. Then a few moments after when he's pushing against dipping bars, getting some blood in the arms for concentration curls. He's overdubbed talking about the pump/orgasm comparison. He's eye-popping in those scenes.
TNBT
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This is great stuff :)
Those very early pics of Arnold at a municipal contest, is that the one held in some local (Graz?) hotel wherein he placed second aged 16?
His legs were terrible in those days. Not just ordinary, they look BAD!
Check out the guy in the cool-as-fuck shades 8) He and another guy look like they were spray-tanned wearing hangman hoods LOL!
I think maybe the shades were for his own protection when he looked at his oil-job!
These are more pics that give ya hope, like when you see mid-teens stills of Markus Ruhl in Made in Germany.
Unfortunately, such before-and-after examples fuel the fire of the that's-all-steroids crowd who know shit about shit ::)
NB: The most impressed I've ever been by Arnold, was Pumping Iron, when he pumps up and does a mirror-check, wearing a yellow Gold's vest. Awesome. Then a few moments after when he's pushing against dipping bars, getting some blood in the arms for concentration curls. He's overdubbed talking about the pump/orgasm comparison. He's eye-popping in those scenes.
TNBT
That would be Kurt Marnul. To this day, he STILL wears shades! 8)
(http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2578638.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6CE59FD1F74BE52FD9930FDCFC4C15FBB)
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arnie just looks like he was made to look like that, it is unbeleivable.
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Yeah, there's something about Arnold's shape, more than his size, that just looks spot-on. I still think he would've benefited greatly from an inch or two on his calves, but ya can't point to an ugly-shaped muscle, or say his ... muscle doesn't look right alogside his ... muscles.
Most BBers have something you can single out as not-great. Frank Zane's scrawny calves, Dickerson's tiny arms, Platz's ordinary upper body (relative to legs), Katz's fantastic chest on an otherwise unspectacular (although huge) upper body, Ferrigno's relatively poor calves, Mentzer's forearms somewhat diminishing his upper arms.
Jumping ahead to contemporary BBers, Ron had high calves, Ruhl's triceps look a little flat in comparison to his biceps peaks, Badel is too blocky, and Cutler IYAM is just an amorphous mess.
Like I said before, it's difficult to see a flaw in the top-form Schwarzenegger.
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Pollux, I saw that guy before, but I didn't realise he was Marnul. I first heard of Marnul in Arnold: The Education... then a little more from Wendy Leigh. Spinning around Graz in yellow denims (or was it white?) and driving a little sports car.
He sounds like a guy who saw the importance of fun! What is he now, mid-Seventies or so?
Knowing that he was Mr Austria with his ordinary genetics, is an index of how much European BB has changed.
TNBT
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Pollux, I saw that guy before, but I didn't realise he was Marnul. I first heard of Marnul in Arnold: The Education... then a little more from Wendy Leigh. Spinning around Graz in yellow denims (or was it white?) and driving a little sports car.
He sounds like a guy who saw the importance of fun! What is he now, mid-Seventies or so?
Knowing that he was Mr Austria with his ordinary genetics, is an index of how much European BB has changed.
TNBT
And the funny thing is is that at that particular time, Arnold thought Kurt was sensational in his built! Nothing great -- look at more pics of Kurt in his prime -- but enough to capture the attention of a 15 year old Arnold.
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ND, if that old uniform pic is of Arnold, then I'm Lou Ferrigno's mom.
Someone found an ancient pic of someone in a Nazi get-up, who bore a passing (at best) resemblance to a young Arnold, relying upon the Gustav-was-a-Nazi stuff to convince dipshits that Arnold too was a goosestepper.
In adolescent pics, Arnold characteristically wore his hair in a nerdy side-parting. He didn't start sweeping it back until middle-age, by which time he was of course universally famous.
Look hard at that old pic, at the shape of the nose, the forehead, the jaw, and most of all the slope of the shoulders. Stupid comparison.
TNBT
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*BUMP* ;D
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Yeah, there's something about Arnold's shape, more than his size, that just looks spot-on. I still think he would've benefited greatly from an inch or two on his calves, but ya can't point to an ugly-shaped muscle, or say his ... muscle doesn't look right alogside his ... muscles.
Most BBers have something you can single out as not-great. Frank Zane's scrawny calves, Dickerson's tiny arms, Platz's ordinary upper body (relative to legs), Katz's fantastic chest on an otherwise unspectacular (although huge) upper body, Ferrigno's relatively poor calves, Mentzer's forearms somewhat diminishing his upper arms.
Jumping ahead to contemporary BBers, Ron had high calves, Ruhl's triceps look a little flat in comparison to his biceps peaks, Badel is too blocky, and Cutler IYAM is just an amorphous mess.
Like I said before, it's difficult to see a flaw in the top-form Schwarzenegger.
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Pollux, I saw that guy before, but I didn't realise he was Marnul. I first heard of Marnul in Arnold: The Education... then a little more from Wendy Leigh. Spinning around Graz in yellow denims (or was it white?) and driving a little sports car.
He sounds like a guy who saw the importance of fun! What is he now, mid-Seventies or so?
Knowing that he was Mr Austria with his ordinary genetics, is an index of how much European BB has changed.
TNBT
Zane did not have "scrawny" calves. His calves and thighs ( particularly his thighs) were considered best ever in his time...just check him in the famous 'vacuum pose' of his...you will see what I mean.
Mike
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ND, if that old uniform pic is of Arnold, then I'm Lou Ferrigno's mom.
Someone found an ancient pic of someone in a Nazi get-up, who bore a passing (at best) resemblance to a young Arnold, relying upon the Gustav-was-a-Nazi stuff to convince dipshits that Arnold too was a goosestepper.
In adolescent pics, Arnold characteristically wore his hair in a nerdy side-parting. He didn't start sweeping it back until middle-age, by which time he was of course universally famous.
Look hard at that old pic, at the shape of the nose, the forehead, the jaw, and most of all the slope of the shoulders. Stupid comparison.
TNBT
TNBT...
There are very gullible people on this board who will buy almost into anything. But we 'hardcore' Arnie fans know better. ;)
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Moose, I have to stand by what I said about Zane's calves. In some stills they look like they hold their own, but in live-action posing, they are shown up as poor.
Frank Zane was touted as the new standard in condition, going for the ultra-cut skinless look. However, I think maybe in achieving that, he overdieted a little, and his calf-size suffered for it.
I dunno how Zane's calves could've been considered the best of his time (if you mean his winning streak) when there were Platz and Dickerson in the frame.
I have a feeling that Frank Zane's domination was somewhat engineered, maybe to make the judging community look a little more discerning. Maybe laymen were convinced that judges did little more than award the Sandow to the biggest, so Frank was used to refute that belief.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to knock Zane. He was always in great shape, his posing was as good as anyone's we've seen yet, and he made the vacuum shot his own.
I have a somatotype similar to his, I'm 5'8" and an ecto-meso. I reckon Frank Zane would've looked better if he'd packed many more pounds onto his small bones.
TNBT
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arnie and zane, 1970 nabba mr universe
frank won the amateur mr u and arnold won the pro mr u
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Moose, I have to stand by what I said about Zane's calves. In some stills they look like they hold their own, but in live-action posing, they are shown up as poor.
Frank Zane was touted as the new standard in condition, going for the ultra-cut skinless look. However, I think maybe in achieving that, he overdieted a little, and his calf-size suffered for it.
I dunno how Zane's calves could've been considered the best of his time (if you mean his winning streak) when there were Platz and Dickerson in the frame.
I have a feeling that Frank Zane's domination was somewhat engineered, maybe to make the judging community look a little more discerning. Maybe laymen were convinced that judges did little more than award the Sandow to the biggest, so Frank was used to refute that belief.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to knock Zane. He was always in great shape, his posing was as good as anyone's we've seen yet, and he made the vacuum shot his own.
I have a somatotype similar to his, I'm 5'8" and an ecto-meso. I reckon Frank Zane would've looked better if he'd packed many more pounds onto his small bones.
TNBT
There are some old articles of Zane training calves in Muscle Builder/ Power (about 1977) (this was when the pages were yellow!), and they looked great. They were comparable to Waller's (who, along with Mentzer a few years later, was considered to holder of the best calves around. Not bigger than them two guys, but complete in development.
Also, to clear one thing up for many on this board (not necessarily you TNBT)...symmetry and proportion are two different things.
Symmetry=if you were to cut the humkan body in half, from head to toe, making the cut down through the nose, mouth, front chest, groin, etc, you'd expect SYMMETRY to be involved if BOTH HALVES MATCHED IN THEIR SAMENESS 100%
That is symmetry.
Zane HIMSELF admits he did not have great symmetry. His left and right sides did not match well.
But he hid these discrepancies very well.
Arnold and everyone else, too.
Proportion ios the thing most of you guys THINK you are referring to...such as does the size of biceps overcome that of calves...is thorax too much for legs, etc.
I am close to Zane in proportions too, Knew I'd never be big.
Check my photos under moosejay on members photo board...you will see what I mean.
Best,
Mike
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A very rare pic of Arnold's "illegitimate son"
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_small15.jpg)
Fuck, The Beef never knew fat and bald were in Arnold's genes.
The Beef
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arnie and zane, 1970 nabba mr universe
frank won the amateur mr u and arnold won the pro mr u
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=226925;image)
This pic is on a cover of a Health and Strength I have, only Frank Zane is also holding his wife, Christine.
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I know what you mean about symmetry Moose, and I don't think anyone, bodybuilder or otherwise, is truly symmetrical. Ever tried looking at half of a face photograph reflected in a mirror? Looks odd.
Proportion is something I don't think you can do a whole lot about, at least you cannot change it dramatically. I believe that the body is predisposed to hold the same proportions, one muscle will grow or shrink in proportion to others. You can tweak here and there, but that's about it.
Like when did you ever see a guy with enormous arms on a skinny body, due wholly to training?
I disagree about knowing you'll never be big. If you used enough gear and put in the work, you could cheat your frame.
TNBT
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I know what you mean about symmetry Moose, and I don't think anyone, bodybuilder or otherwise, is truly symmetrical. Ever tried looking at half of a face photograph reflected in a mirror? Looks odd.
Proportion is something I don't think you can do a whole lot about, at least you cannot change it dramatically. I believe that the body is predisposed to hold the same proportions, one muscle will grow or shrink in proportion to others. You can tweak here and there, but that's about it.
Like when did you ever see a guy with enormous arms on a skinny body, due wholly to training?
I disagree about knowing you'll never be big. If you used enough gear and put in the work, you could cheat your frame.
TNBT
Agreed with most.
But about me never being gigantic...I really tried, but had to go the way of zane...I comepted at 205 once, was not cut.
Did my best at 186 (5'11" height).
But yes, maybe with the stuff guys today, agreed.
You can see some of my comp photos on the member's photo section.
Mike
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Moose, I have to stand by what I said about Zane's calves. In some stills they look like they hold their own, but in live-action posing, they are shown up as poor.
Frank Zane was touted as the new standard in condition, going for the ultra-cut skinless look. However, I think maybe in achieving that, he overdieted a little, and his calf-size suffered for it.
I dunno how Zane's calves could've been considered the best of his time (if you mean his winning streak) when there were Platz and Dickerson in the frame.
I have a feeling that Frank Zane's domination was somewhat engineered, maybe to make the judging community look a little more discerning. Maybe laymen were convinced that judges did little more than award the Sandow to the biggest, so Frank was used to refute that belief.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to knock Zane. He was always in great shape, his posing was as good as anyone's we've seen yet, and he made the vacuum shot his own.
I have a somatotype similar to his, I'm 5'8" and an ecto-meso. I reckon Frank Zane would've looked better if he'd packed many more pounds onto his small bones.
TNBT
I agree with most here...Zane went to 205 for his final Olympia...wanted to be bigger...his cuts suffered for it. He also said he tried early in his Career to train heavy such as with Arnold et al, and he was killing his joints.
Mike
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I didn't know that Zane eventually competed at 205, I thought that was his off-season weight, his contest weight being around 185. Maybe if he'd been a bigger user he'd be dead by now, so maybe he's smart.
Learn somethin' new every day!
Where can I find the members' photos? I looked, didn't find it. What's it called?
TNBT
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I didn't know that Zane eventually competed at 205, I thought that was his off-season weight, his contest weight being around 185. Maybe if he'd been a bigger user he'd be dead by now, so maybe he's smart.
Learn somethin' new every day!
Where can I find the members' photos? I looked, didn't find it. What's it called?
TNBT
He only competed at that weight in his final Olympia...and , afterwards, he knew it was a mistake. I am pretty sure his last was the 83 Olympia, won by Samir Bannout.
Go to "General Topics", and scroll down to "Pictures Of members & More", for photos.
Mike
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Moose, I was gonna get back to ya re your pics yesterday, but my 'puter slowed down on me big-time, I got pissed off and switched it off.
Anyway... First of all, when I scrolled down to that pic of you at about 24 y/o, I thought at first glance it was an old Bannout shot!
You definitely got a whole lot thicker in the years between that pic and the ones at 36/39.
Calves looked helluva lot better, so I guess you put a lot of work into them.
Why Moose by the way, I take it you're Canadian?
I saw you get stuck in that icy lake on the news the other day...
TNBT ;)
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Here's Arnold imitating Sergio's "Victory-Pose"...
(http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16169.0;id=28235;image)
Wrong That pic was taken in the late 60's...Sergio became know for that pose in Germany few years later (1972)
So No imitating when Arnold was doing that pose years before.
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Wrong That pic was taken in the late 60's...Sergio became know for that pose in Germany few years later (1972)
So No imitating when Arnold was doing that pose years before.
*ahem*
That pose is associated with Sergio, thank you very much! ;D
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arnold backstage at a contest that wag bennett put on, hence the 'w' for wag.
there's wag on our left in the bottom pic.
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Moose, I was gonna get back to ya re your pics yesterday, but my 'puter slowed down on me big-time, I got pissed off and switched it off.
Anyway... First of all, when I scrolled down to that pic of you at about 24 y/o, I thought at first glance it was an old Bannout shot!
You definitely got a whole lot thicker in the years between that pic and the ones at 36/39.
Calves looked helluva lot better, so I guess you put a lot of work into them.
Why Moose by the way, I take it you're Canadian?
I saw you get stuck in that icy lake on the news the other day...
TNBT ;)
Haha...thanks for your kind compliments, TNBT!
Yes, in my younger years, it was said that I resembled Bannout...facially, that is!
Funny...the old shots=gear....new shots...no gear!
Yeah...worked legs harder as got older...still never did match upper body...did what God allowed me, I guess!
Serious about the ice?
Please explain...not Canadian, but don't live far from Canada.
Mike
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yeah good work there is no denying that i'm right, you just keep idolising a washed up oil bag for the achievements he could never achieve,
And by the way i didn't make anything up everything i wrote was true
Oh sure, you're completely objective if you don't say so yourself. :P
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arnold backstage at a contest that wag bennett put on, hence the 'w' for wag.
there's wag on our left in the bottom pic.
GoneAway, not sure if you know this or not, but on Arnold: The Early Years DVD there's footage of him doing a curling exhibition wearing that same outfit. Good stuff!
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First of all Moose, all I meant was that there was a syndicated news story from Canada on TV here (Dundee, Scotland) the other day, a light-relief sidebar about a moose crossing some frozen lake and the inevitable happening.
They got him out before he froze or drowned :)
Also meant to say, re your fizz-eek; you are indeed Zane-like, only I believe your arms are a little shorter than his from shoulder to elbow, making your flexed arm look thicker. It's a matter of opinion whether shorter arms are a plus or a drawback.
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The latest Arnie pics are kewl, he looked like such a baby with his chubby face in '66/'67!
I've seen a sample of that The Early Years vid, and Arnold's barbell curls ain't exactly strict LOL!
When I first saw the words 'curling exhibition' I thought it meant the kinda curling he used to do (with considerable success) with his father, before he got hooked on bodybuilding.
That sport sucks ass in my opinion, but it's popular in this country. In fact, I think Scotland's curlers did purdy well at the last Winter Olympics.
To me, it probably was invented when an ice rink janitor found a way to con retards into sweeping the ice for him LOL!
Keep up the good work, Korky! This time next year you'll be world champ!
Also, I have to wonder at the fact that Arnold had been training for 4 years or so, before someone (Bennett) pointed out that he needed to nail his calves.
TNBT
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Who's the short guy in the outdoors pic with Arnold?
TNBT
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looks like arnold is imitating sergio, as oliva used to often wear those hats
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=227355;image)
GoneAway, not sure if you know this or not, but on Arnold: The Early Years DVD there's footage of him doing a curling exhibition wearing that same outfit. Good stuff!
think i saw that on youtube a long time ago. cool that theres footage of the event.
Who's the short guy in the outdoors pic with Arnold?
TNBT
pretty sure it's a young ed corney.
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Who's the short guy in the outdoors pic with Arnold?
TNBT
If you mean this one, it's Ed Corney.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=227353;image)
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pretty sure it's a young ed corney.
It is. One is used to seeing him with a mustache.
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Some pictures of the Oak!!!!
Remember that in the fourth picture he was 20-years old, just look at the mass!
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Some more pictures from the legend!!!
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Did you saw that last picture before?? I didn`t, some more!!
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I will ALWAYS and FOREVER worship Arnold! 8)
If I get around to it, I'll post some more Arnold pics from my Vault of Arnie Mags! ;D
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Viking, when did Arnold bust his leg as a youngster? I didn't know about that.
Oh, and something else you guys can help me with.
Near the beginning of the Pumping Iron film, who is the little guy with the NY accent, who yells Jesus Christ! and leaps into Arnold's arms?
TNBT
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The little guy in Pumping-Iron is named Eddie Giuliani!!
Schwarzenegger broke his leg in 1971 or 1972. While guestposing the stage gave in under his weight.
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The little guy in Pumping-Iron is named Eddie Giuliani!!
Schwarzenegger broke his leg in 1971 or 1972. While guestposing the stage gave in under his weight.
it was after the 1972 olympia, while he was guestposing in south africa. apparently the stage collapsed, but the speculation is that it was a coverup for a calf implant operation.
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Wouldn't be surprised about the calf-op shit. Helluva dramatic way to cover it up, though! Couldn't he have just claimed to be in a car wreck? It's well documented that Schwarzenegger was always a reckless driver, especially in his younger days.
If indeed he had a calf op, that musta been an almost unheard-of procedure in those days. I guess it still is rare among the general population.
And, again assuming it's true, who was the perceived new threat that prompted it? Couldn't have been Ferrigno, his calves were shite too, at least until he had an op of his own.
Come to think of it, did anyone have great calves back then?
TNBT
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Wouldn't be surprised about the calf-op shit. Helluva dramatic way to cover it up, though! Couldn't he have just claimed to be in a car wreck? It's well documented that Schwarzenegger was always a reckless driver, especially in his younger days.
If indeed he had a calf op, that musta been an almost unheard-of procedure in those days. I guess it still is rare among the general population.
And, again assuming it's true, who was the perceived new threat that prompted it? Couldn't have been Ferrigno, his calves were shite too, at least until he had an op of his own.
Come to think of it, did anyone have great calves back then?
TNBT
i think there was still threat that sergio might come back, better than ever, given how incredibly close it was in 72. bigger calves would just help his case that much more. ur right though, it's an incredibly tough operation to get right, and i cant seem to see any scars on his legs that would seem to say that he did have one. add to that, arnold was on par with almost anyone in the world as far as calves at that point, but the fact that he may have still been worried that they were too small may have made him go under the knife. it's also funny how his calves stayed the same from 74 to 1980, even though he was about 15-20lbs smaller in 1980. it's all speculation, which i think doesnt have a whole lot of merit, but you just never know.
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i think there was still threat that sergio might come back, better than ever, given how incredibly close it was in 72.
Hence Arnold's conditioning in '73 and '74! :o
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The little guy in Pumping-Iron is named Eddie Giuliani!!
I met him at the World Gym in Marina del Rey before it was converted to Planet Fitness. ::)
Anyway, Eddie was a helluva nice guy! Down-to-earth...
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Speaking of calves in general, they're one of the most common don't-haves among amateur BBers, be they competitive or not.
I see guys all the time who seem to regard calf-raises as a 'finishing-off exercise' i.e. just a token set or two at the end of a workout, citing that they're a small muscle. Not really, guys!
A great many guys don't give a whole lot of time to deltoids either, especially lateral/rear.
Back for a few people is out of sight and therefore out of mind.
As a matter of fact, there are still lots and lots of 'BBers' who think a workout starts with bench press and ends with barbell curls.
TNBT
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Schwarzenegger broke his leg in 1971 or 1972. While guestposing the stage gave in under his weight.
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0515-2.jpg)
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Must've been a shit stage! LOL! Hundred-year-old boards!
I wonder how long you gotta wait after a calf op before you can train properly.
Interesting that his entire leg was bandaged following the op.
TNBT
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Did you see those pictures from 1977, I didn`t!!!
Arnold, the party animal!!
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This girl looks like she REALLY wants to take "The Man" to the bedroom! :D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=227940;image)
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I saw that somewhere before, and the message was hey look, this guy pulling a woman's skirt up, he's unsuitable for high office...
Y'know what? I don't trust a guy who hasn't pulled up a girl's skirt at a party. Gotta be some kinda uptight prick.
TNBT
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LOL! Check out the virgin dressed in lilac.
There's a woman who really needs a tongue-ing!
TNBT
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I wonder where Arnold got jeans to fit him in those days.
'70s fashion dictated that you weren't allowed to have an ass LOL!
TNBT
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great pics! heres a couple from the nabba mr universe, 1967, which arnold won overall.
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First of all Moose, all I meant was that there was a syndicated news story from Canada on TV here (Dundee, Scotland) the other day, a light-relief sidebar about a moose crossing some frozen lake and the inevitable happening.
They got him out before he froze or drowned :)
Also meant to say, re your fizz-eek; you are indeed Zane-like, only I believe your arms are a little shorter than his from shoulder to elbow, making your flexed arm look thicker. It's a matter of opinion whether shorter arms are a plus or a drawback.
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The latest Arnie pics are kewl, he looked like such a baby with his chubby face in '66/'67!
I've seen a sample of that The Early Years vid, and Arnold's barbell curls ain't exactly strict LOL!
When I first saw the words 'curling exhibition' I thought it meant the kinda curling he used to do (with considerable success) with his father, before he got hooked on bodybuilding.
That sport sucks ass in my opinion, but it's popular in this country. In fact, I think Scotland's curlers did purdy well at the last Winter Olympics.
To me, it probably was invented when an ice rink janitor found a way to con retards into sweeping the ice for him LOL!
Keep up the good work, Korky! This time next year you'll be world champ!
Also, I have to wonder at the fact that Arnold had been training for 4 years or so, before someone (Bennett) pointed out that he needed to nail his calves.
TNBT
Thanks, Mike
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Arnold's very first article in a Weider publication taken from Muscle Builder/Power...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0606.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0607.jpg)
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Arnold's very first article in a Weider publication taken from Muscle Builder/Power...
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I have this issue, ND. And believe it or not, there are NO articles or even pictures of Arnold inside. He's just simply on the cover...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0608.jpg)
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I have this issue, ND. And believe it or not, there are NO articles or even pictures of Arnold inside. He's just simply on the cover...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0608.jpg)
I have it too , thats where the pic came from . odd they would do that.
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I have it too , thats where the pic came from . odd they would do that.
Guess they wanted to tease us as to what was to come!
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Damn! I gotta keep this thread alive!
Arnold at 19 posing in the Bavarian Alps...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0870.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0872.jpg)
Arnold pumping and posing backstage at the '68 IFBB Mr. Universe in Miami...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0880.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0885.jpg)
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Ah c'mon Pollux, you gotta reduce the show-through in those scans ::)
LOL! I'm just jealous 'cos when it comes to rare Arnold shit, I got nuthin'!
Those pics in the mountains, I guess they're from the same shoot as the semi-relaxed pic in his auto-bio, said to be one week before placing second in the '66 Uni.
I'll bet you have that in your vault too, don'tcha?
And the Miami contest, Frank Zane beat him in that one, didn't he? That was probably the point at which Arnold realised he'd better learn a little about precontest diets.
Especially after Vince Gironda being so nice about his condition LOL!
TNBT
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Ah c'mon Pollux, you gotta reduce the show-through in those scans ::)
LOL! I'm just jealous 'cos when it comes to rare Arnold shit, I got nuthin'!
Those pics in the mountains, I guess they're from the same shoot as the semi-relaxed pic in his auto-bio, said to be one week before placing second in the '66 Uni.
I'll bet you have that in your vault too, don'tcha?
And the Miami contest, Frank Zane beat him in that one, didn't he? That was probably the point at which Arnold realised he'd better learn a little about precontest diets.
Especially after Vince Gironda being so nice about his condition LOL!
TNBT
LOL...I'm know, I know. I notice they show through. Some of the pictures I have in a scrap book, and can't help it. :(
As for the "mountain pics"...yes, it's from the same photo shoot as the one in Arnold's book, but I HIGHLY doubt it's him 1 week out from the '66 NABBA Universe. Here's why...I have an MD issue that covers the '66 NABBA Universe and Arnold doesn't look as built as those mountain pics.
Page 148 of the Nov. 2004 issue of Ironman shows a picture of Arnold from those mountain pics and states he is 19 and 5 weeks out from the '67 NABBA Universe - wrong! The Universe was held on Sept. 24th. Arnold's birthday is July 30th. Either he wasn't 19 and just turned 20 or they got the weeks wrong!
And yes, Frank Zane did beat Arnold at the '68 IFBB Universe in Miami. If I have time, I'll post a rare pic of Arnold looking quite disappointed at his second place in that show.
My "Arnie Vault" does come in handy! ;D
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That's a great look. Healthy and almost Reevesesque
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0872.jpg)
Wow, I'd stop right there, maintain, and just work calves.
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Arnold placing second place at the '68 IFBB Universe in Miami. Can you see the disappointed look on his face?
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0887.jpg)
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stay hungry... or thirsty. you decide. :)
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I think he had one of the best chests, ever.
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This is the cover of a Health and Strength I have...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=228634;image)
But do you know what magazine this article is from? ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=228633;image)
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Stay Hungry is a bollocks movie, but Arnold looks terrific in it. Especially in the scene where he's pumping up with dumb-bells before going onstage, and Jeff Bridges is trying to get his attention.
Will ya put the god-damn dumb-bells down!? ;D
Then he launches into his stay-hungry monologue.
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I like that shot of Arnold's second place in '68. LOL! He looks like he lost a hundred bucks then found a dime!
TNBT
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The shot of Schwarzenegger/Park in the mag article looks a little too homoerotic for my liking! ;D
TNBT
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I like that shot of Arnold's second place in '68. LOL! He looks like he lost a hundred bucks then found a dime!
A lil' bit of a close-up...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0886.jpg)
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tnbt, arnie and park are likely pumping up before a photoshoot. bodybuilders sometimes use eachother in pulling/pushing movements, instead of weights. looks like they might be working reg's calves, but it's hard to tell.
pollux, the article is from this magazine.
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I figured they must be doing something like that, maybe Arnold was helping stretch Reg's back or whatever.
Frank Zane is a cruel man. Somewhere an imitation tigress is mourning her cub LOL!
TNBT
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tnbt, arnie and park are likely pumping up before a photoshoot. bodybuilders sometimes use eachother in pulling/pushing movements, instead of weights. looks like they might be working reg's calves, but it's hard to tell.
pollux, the article is from this magazine.
Thanks, GoneAway! :)
I take it you have the issue?
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Arnold and his late brother.
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1. Is there anyone in todays bodybuilding that has this
good of a front double bi pose?
2. Looking wide at the 72 Olympia.
3. Turned his once mediocre calves into cows.
4. 30+ years and who looks better.
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Thanks, GoneAway! :)
I take it you have the issue?
i'm not really a collector, perse. the only musclemags i have are more recent issues, but i enjoy surfing the web and collecting bits and pieces of arnold as i go along. here's another article on Arnold that you may not be aware of until now - from the August '69 issue of Mr. America. (first pic)
bizzy, here's another shot from that incredible photoshoot - from a slightly different angle. (second pic)
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Some more from my Arnie Vault... ;)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0891.jpg)
Arnold backstage with Joe Weider at the '68 IFBB Universe...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0895.jpg)
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How's this for a side-chest... :o
Arnold posing at the Thalersee Lake
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0888.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0889.jpg)
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Flawless! Need I say more? ;D
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0899.jpg)
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Arnold and Sergio pumping up before battling it out at the '72 IFBB Olympia...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_0906.jpg)
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thank you for exelent unseen pictures with good resolution !
keep posting it, bro !!!
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thank you for exelent unseen pictures with good resolution !
keep posting it, bro !!!
No problem. ;)
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thank you for exelent unseen pictures with good resolution !
keep posting it, bro !!!
Yeah, we say Grace at my house too LOL! ;)
Pollux, that pool shot has been saved to My Pics. Dunno about flawless, though. Those black trunks kinda diminish his package.
TNBT
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Pollux! A while ago I started a thread asking if anyone had the old pic of Mike Katz with a Coca-Cola can balanced on his chest. No-one did, or at least, no-one who was willing to share LOL!
I just figured that you, Pollux, with your hard-on for collecting pics and old mags, might have it.
Okay, sorry for the hijack everyone. I'll er, I'll get my jacket... (footsteps...) :-[
TNBT
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Pollux! A while ago I started a thread asking if anyone had the old pic of Mike Katz with a Coca-Cola can balanced on his chest. No-one did, or at least, no-one who was willing to share LOL!
I just figured that you, Pollux, with your hard-on for collecting pics and old mags, might have it.
Okay, sorry for the hijack everyone. I'll er, I'll get my jacket... (footsteps...) :-[
TNBT
Actually, I don't. My vintage mags and pics mostly consist of Arnold.
Sorry! :-\
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Yeah, we say Grace at my house too LOL! ;)
Pollux, that pool shot has been saved to My Pics. Dunno about flawless, though. Those black trunks kinda diminish his package.
TNBT
And here I thought by posting the pic one would be appealed by his overall physique, and not the diminishing of his *ahem* "package"! LOL
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Holy shit - I want a body like the old-schoolers!
Great pics 8)
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Does anybody know how many of these issues are still around?
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Does anybody know how many of these issues are still around?
Which issues are you referring to?
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arnold schwarzenegger
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Pollux,
Do you know how many issues of the July 1968 Muscle Builder/Power may have been printed back in the day? I just purchased a copy. It wasn't an easy item to find. How many of these issues do you think are still around that are in decent shape?
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Pollux,
Do you know how many issues of the July 1968 Muscle Builder/Power may have been printed back in the day? I just purchased a copy. It wasn't an easy item to find. How many of these issues do you think are still around that are in decent shape?
Hmmmm...for that particular, it's hard to say how many there were on the newsstand, or any other Muscle/Builder Power magazine. My guess is not many. But how much is "not many" - 5 issues on a newsstand, 10 issues? Who knows...
As for my opinion as to how many of the July '68 issue are still around in decent shape, well, probably more than we think! Everyone knows that this is Arnold's very first cover and a very sought after issue so those that are in good shape are more likely than not being kept by the owner.
I too have the July '68 issue that is in mint condition! I hit the jackpot at a garage sale when I obtained a lot of very rare vintage Arnold magazines.
I congratulate you on owning the July '68 issue. You now own the issue everyone wants! 8)
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Arnold at 16
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Was he "on" at that point?
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Was he "on" at that point?
Yes, he was. He was "on" almost immediately after meeting Kurt Marnul.
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Yes, he was. He was "on" almost immediately after meeting Kurt Marnul.
Who is Kurt Marnul?
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Who is Kurt Marnul?
He was Arnold's very first trainer at the Graz Athletic Union when he was a teenager, and the man responsible for introducing Arnold to steroids. Here's what he looks like today...
(http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2578638.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6CE59FD1F74BE52FD9930FDCFC4C15FBB)
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Wicked pics! I hope to see more high quality never before seen comparisons from the 1972 MR. Olympia. ;)
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I think it was a wise decision of Arnold's always to wear high-waisted trunks when competing.
The apparent shortening of the body makes for the illusion of longer legs, a chunkier torso, and perfect upper/lower body balance.
The chunky-torso illusion is similar to the slouched-football-socks look, which some guys use to give the impression of fuller calves.
I'm one of them LOL! My calves are good, but the socks make them sooperdooper!
TNBT ;D
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Wicked pics! I hope to see more high quality never before seen comparisons from the 1972 MR. Olympia. ;)
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More
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All of those are great ND! Hope to see even more pics!
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All of those are great ND! Hope to see even more pics!
I like the bottom pic of Sergio
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I love how Sergio gets the last pose in as everyone walks offstage. :D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=229477;image)
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Wicked pics! I hope to see more high quality never before seen comparisons from the 1972 MR. Olympia. ;)
http://www.builtreport.com/1972olympia.html
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the austrian oak
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=228669;image)
Arnold brutally owns Jay and whoever tried this pose
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I had some pics from the web showing Arnold in offseason...looking about in his twenties and clearly off the gear.Looked good but more like a decathlete than bb. Would suggest that he is the sort of hyper-responder that Levrone clearly is. They were erased when my pc was being overhauled by "expert" here in Dublin.Does anyone have these or similar?
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I like the bottom pic of Sergio
You like Sergio's bottom?
TNBT ;)
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Ryan, sorry I don't have those pics, but I know just what ya mean.
There are a couple of pics I've seen wherein Arnold looks athletic but not really a bodybuilder. I think they're both beach shots. In one, he's stretching an archery bow (maybe Frank Zane got him into that) and in the other he's bumping hips with a woman in a bikini.
I mean the woman wears a bikini, not Arnold LOL!
I'll have a look for these pics, post them, and you can tell me if that's the look you meant.
TNBT
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the God of bodybuilding
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training back in munich, germany, circa 66-67
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LOL @ the oops-no-collars military press!
Here's one of those pics I mentioned the other day, of a somewhat shrunken Arnold:
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i275/AndyPix/ArnoldwithBow.jpg)
And again looking more swimwear-catalogue than Muscle-Beach.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i275/AndyPix/ArnoldChaiseLonges.jpg)
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im pretty sure that most of pictures from seventies with shrunken Arnold are from his noncompeting period (76-79) .
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im pretty sure that most of pictures from seventies with shrunken Arnold are from his noncompeting period (76-79) .
Ya think!? ::)
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Pollux, how naive are you?
Both those pics are from two days before major contests. You never heard of screw-in muscles?
TNBT ::)
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Shrunken Arnold: the third is from the seventies.
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Some more of a shrunken Arnold: in the third picture he looks 190 pounds at the most, and remember it is a picture from the seventies!!
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The first picture was from Feb, 1976 when Arnold, Frank Zane and Ed Corney posed at the Whitney Museum of Art in New York City to promote "Pumping Iron". That's Candice Bergen in the picture with him.
The second photo was taken also in 1976 when Arnold was guest posing, one year after his retirement.
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And probably also in Quebec to make sure the judges favoured his stunted puppy Franco LOL!
TNBT
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who has won more olympias...ARNOLD
who has influenced entire generations to start training...ARNOLD
who has 1 of the biggest bbing contest in the world named after him.....ARNOLD
who has used his bbing carreer as a stepping stone to accomplish bigger and better things....ARNOLD
who has sold his dirty underwear over the internet....NASSER
who complaines that he couldn't win an o title because of politics......NASSER
who tries time and time again to beat his opponents and failed that he had to result in using excess amounts if oil...NASSER
LOL
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check out the size of arnold and lou's legs in the pic with joe weider! crazy size...
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check out the size of arnold and lou's legs in the pic with joe weider! crazy size...
Yes, in terms of leg size, Lou OWNS Arnold. OMG! I thought I'd NEVER say anything like that. :-X
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Yes, in terms of leg size, Lou OWNS Arnold. OMG! I thought I'd NEVER say anything like that. :-X
i wouldnt say so. not in that pic, anyway. it's about 50/50.
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i wouldnt say so. not in that pic, anyway. it's about 50/50.
Stop kidding yourself.
Its nothing of the sort.
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Arnold is Numero Uno till the "end of days" 8)
Thx for the pics - I'm inspired.
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Stop kidding yourself.
Its nothing of the sort.
please explain how lou's legs own arnold in that pic
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please explain how lou's legs own arnold in that pic
Actually, GoneAway, Lou does OWN Arnold in the legs, but ONLY in the size of the legs. C'mon now...you don't see that? ???
I'm not saying Lou's legs are better, just bigger.
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Yes...A's legs were great, but rather slender, especially when you'd see him in slacks.
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Actually, GoneAway, Lou does OWN Arnold in the legs, but ONLY in the size of the legs. C'mon now...you don't see that? ???
I'm not saying Lou's legs are better, just bigger.
nope, i really dont see it.
lou is standing with his legs further apart than arnold's, which shows off more hamstring deveopment, making lou's left leg appear bigger than arnold's right. it's not a good comparison.
as shown on the leg's which are facing towards the camera, their quads are almost identical in overall size. lou's 'teardrop' is thicker than arnie's, but arnie's vastus lateralis is thicker than lou's. if u really want to see, go in mspaint and draw a line, then compare that line to the width of both their quads which face the camera.
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Arnold is half the bodybuilder Nasser is! :o
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i286/JamesPhoenix/hugenasser.jpg)
Nasser couldn't shine Arnies shoes on his worst day :P
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Sure, if the question is who is more famous, or who has more money, it's Arnold.
But if the question is who had a better physique, it's Nasser. That's about as black and white as answering who has more money between the two.
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Just saw them on wpse.com, didn`t see them before:
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Some more:
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Let's see...this picture of Arnold kissing the girl is where he won the '69 IFBB Universe, but lost the IFBB Olympia that same night. Footage can be seen on GMV's Mentzer & Friends V-147.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=242429;image)
And this one is where Arnold is posing with another fellow bodybuilder whose name I can't remember off the top of my head. Anyway, I believe it's from the '66 NABBA Universe judging by Arnold's "79" competitor number.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=242436;image)
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Arnold and Jamie Lee Curtis playing Ken and Barbie at Halloween
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one you won't see anywhere but here
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Only...I have seen that before, through one of your other threads, I believe. Did you snap that?
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Training biceps with the Austrian Oak, circa 1972-3... 8)
Pics (likely) taken from Muscle Builder 10/73, Flex 6/89, and/or Muscle Mag International 10/92.
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ohh arnold in munich -around years 1967
more photos from his competite austria and germany ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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ohh arnold in munich -around years 1967
more photos from his competite austria and germany ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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yes in koln ;)
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yes in koln ;)
Here's another one from the same show, with his good friend and former training partner, Franz Dischinger.
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Training biceps with the Austrian Oak, circa 1975... 8)
Actually circa 1972.
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Actually circa 1972.
Appreciate your input, hipolito. 8)
Fixed the title to be more accurate.
More Arnold goodness... it's GOOD to be KING ;)
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Here's another one from the same show, with his good friend and former training partner, Franz Dischinger.
where is Franz today?
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How many bodybuilders today have this kind of striated bicep and pectoral separation?
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where is Franz today?
that might be a question for the great Pollux.
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that might be a question for the great Pollux.
My vast knowledge and collection surrounds around Arnold. I don't know too much about the other people in his life.
As far as I know, Franz went into the army. I don't know what happened to him after that. Sorry, guys. :-\
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Here`s a couple of pics for you.Look at the refelction in the mirror of Arnies back.
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WTF is wrong with you pumpkin heads? Nasser does not wear bodybuilding cloathes 24/7 he is a regular guy, and his head is fine, everybody is not shaped the same or else this would be boring world. Get off NASSER, he is just as great as Arnold, Arnold had a saggy chest ne way.
TEAM NASSER
HAHAHAHAHa
Lets see------
Nasser= washed up clown who had his shoulders and arms drained of escilene (a synthol like substance which swells the muscle, giving an illusion of larger muscles=cheater) which ended his BBing career. Desperate has-been who sells used clothing on the internet to anonymous men who lust after him. Revels in the glory of having 4 fanatical homosexuals praise his name everyday on Getbig :-\
Arnold=most influential figure in BBing ever. One of the greatest, if the greatest action star in hollywood. Governor of California. The greatest physique to ever walk on a stage.
well I guess Jutsanmi is right, its easy to see how equally great Nasser is to Arnold ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
oh and Arnold still has the best chest in the history of BBing---hands down.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=222020;image)
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Yeah... Arnold has an OK body... I guess... ;)
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Dorain who??
Ronnie who??
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Dorain who??
Ronnie who??
I wonder if he works out... 8)
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cant believe i posted this already 2 years ago
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Amazing pics!!
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King of Kings
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That's a great pic illustrating how much more of a mesomorph Arnold was compared to Zane. Zane looks leaner and more defined but he clearly has a smaller frame and his muscles are by any means not as full and round as Arnold's. Just goes to show bodybuilding is all genetics since everyone takes the same drugs anyway.
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Exactly my point, Arnold was 240ish and Nasser was 280ish *at a lower height*. Nuff said - Nasser's physique was in a separate league than Arnold's. That said, I do agree that it's unfair to compare physiques of people in different eras since the sport had not advanced as much back then as it has now, however I did not start the whole Nasser vs. Arnold comparisons here, it's the Arnold nuthuggers who did. It's silly to even suggest that Arnold would be able to beat any of the pros today onstage.
Pot meet Kettle.
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here you go shockwave
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oak.
this is a great pic, i started using a wide grip like this on incline's and the weight took off!!
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i know, nasser is also one of them that can pull of the cool jacked look
you're wrong..
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HAHAHAHAHa
Lets see------
Nasser= washed up clown who had his shoulders and arms drained of escilene (a synthol like substance which swells the muscle, giving an illusion of larger muscles=cheater) which ended his BBing career. Desperate has-been who sells used clothing on the internet to anonymous men who lust after him. Revels in the glory of having 4 fanatical homosexuals praise his name everyday on Getbig :-\
Arnold=most influential figure in BBing ever. One of the greatest, if the greatest action star in hollywood. Governor of California. The greatest physique to ever walk on a stage.
well I guess Jutsanmi is right, its easy to see how equally great Nasser is to Arnold ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
oh and Arnold still has the best chest in the history of BBing---hands down.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=191399.0;attach=222020;image)
Fix: Greatest body in the history of man!! No one, but no one in the history of body building has done more for themselves with just the look of his physique. He made billions off his body and he basically conquered the world with it. If he was born in America he would even be President. That's how great his body is and no one can ever hope to match it.
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here you go shockwave
fuckin win man, motivation. Thanks a bunch. :)
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