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looks like fun ;D
God Bless all of our men and women over there, and in all foreign, hostile lands.
Mike
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God Bless all of our men and women over there, and in all foreign, hostile lands.
Mike
No need for Blessing, its like a human crushing an ant, start blessing when USA gets in a real war akin to WW1/WW2 where both sides lose near equal amounts.
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No need for Blessing, its like a human crushing an ant, start blessing when USA gets in a real war akin to WW1/WW2 where both sides lose near equal amounts.
Why would you want ANYONE to lose ANYTHING?
Peace to you,
Mike
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No need for Blessing, its like a human crushing an ant, start blessing when USA gets in a real war akin to WW1/WW2 where both sides lose near equal amounts.
This 'ant' has still taken 3,917 American lives in Iraq alone.
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This 'ant' has still taken 3,917 American lives in Iraq alone.
Correct. And remember and honor all of the New Yorkers.
Mike
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Correct. And remember and honor all of the New Yorkers.
Mike
...And the thousands of civilians that have perished due to our foreign policy 8)
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...And the thousands of civilians that have perished due to our foreign policy 8)
Remember...the powers that be will NEVER, EVER let lunch pail joes like you and me know what really goes on over there.
We really can't say how many have perished, for sure, due to our foreign policy.
I respect your opinions, but I am a jingoist, so I can't fairly speak politically of this.
Best regards,
mike
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No need for Blessing, its like a human crushing an ant, start blessing when USA gets in a real war akin to WW1/WW2 where both sides lose near equal amounts.
Wow with just a few days left in the year you might have just won the most ignorant post of the year. Good job moron.
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This 'ant' has still taken 3,917 American lives in Iraq alone.
Thats not bad since most estimates for loss of Iraqi life by US Forces since 2003 is estimated to be around 800,000, so for Every dead American the USA kills 200 Iraqis.
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Wow with just a few days left in the year you might have just won the most ignorant post of the year. Good job moron.
You think for every USA soldier killed that 200 Iraqis are killed that the USA soldiers need blessing?
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Thats not bad since most estimates for loss of Iraqi life by US Forces since 2003 is estimated to be around 800,000, so for Every dead American the USA kills 200 Iraqis.
None of us will EVER know these numbers. Do they matter?
Take care of what we still have and can maintain. And I agree with Only on the previous post.
Mike
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You think for every USA soldier killed that 200 Iraqis are killed that the USA soldiers need blessing?
Everyone needs blessing.
With the absence of some folks, the world is simply no poorer.
Mike
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Thats not bad
Around 4K troops dead not to mention the wounded/mentally gone; to invade a country for no morally justified reason?
Not bad ::)
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Everyone needs blessing.
This isnt a fairytale.
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Around 4K troops dead not to mention the wounded/mentally gone; to invade a country for no morally justified reason?
Not bad ::)
I mean not too bad for a country that MADE THE DECISION TO INVADE, sure had you been invaded I think far more people would be sympathetic.
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Around 4K troops dead not to mention the wounded/mentally gone; to invade a country for no morally justified reason?
Not bad ::)
Their people are better off for our presence. We have done bad. We have done good. I think more good than bad. The net result is good.
"No decision is ever 100% popular"-Arnold S., after winning 1980 Mr. O
Mike
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This isnt a fairytale.
I don't understand.
Mike
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I mean not too bad for a country that MADE THE DECISION TO INVADE, sure had you been invaded I think far more people would be sympathetic.
I am not trying to be funny, but could you please clarify that?
Mike
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He's a norwegian soldier, easy now american patriots.
I can then understand his perspective.
Mike
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Their people are better off for our presence.
Oh really? ;D
Laughing too much to reply seriously.
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Oh really? ;D
Laughing too much to reply seriously.
I don't see why you would think any of this is a laughiung matter.
REMEMBER THIS:
The least trusted profession today in our country (probably the world) is the MEDIA.
You probably know this.
So, anything you get in the form of world information is partially or wholly erroneous.
Like I teach my college students: Learn To Think On Your Own.
Not that you do not, my friend.
Best,
Mike
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I mean not too bad for a country that MADE THE DECISION TO INVADE, sure had you been invaded I think far more people would be sympathetic.
I am not trying to be funny, but could you please clarify that?
Mike
Ok then, 2,740 died in 911 when USA was attacked by mainly Saudi Extremists, 4000 soldiers died in Iraq, one of the events generated 1000 times more sympathy than the other, Ill let you work out the rest.
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I'm just curious 'Mike' how you've come to that conclusion.
Was it the weekly suicide bombings in vastly populated markets, the rape and murders of Iraqi's by U.S marines or the odd 'precision'( ::)) missile that misses its target.
Or are you just blindly celebrating a fake democracy?
I don't listen/read American media but since its Jew ran, it's reports are tinted with 'kosherness' :D And since Israeli's and Muslims are best friends, I'm not sure how this would effect my current anti-war stance ???
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Ok then, 2,740 died in 911 when USA was attacked by mainly Saudi Extremists, 4000 soldiers died in Iraq, one of events generated 1000 times more sympathy than the other, Ill let you work out the rest.
Obviously American civilian deaths are going to be mourned more than soldiers since the risk of dying goes hand in hand with the army and 'war' zones in general...still not sure what your point was ;D
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Obviously American civilian deaths are going to be mourned more than soldiers since the risk of dying goes hand in hand with the army and 'war' zones in general...still not sure what your point was ;D
I agree but the fact that America chose to go to Iraq under zero threat factors in greatly too.
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No need for Blessing, its like a human crushing an ant, start blessing when USA gets in a real war akin to WW1/WW2 where both sides lose near equal amounts.
Part of the problem is, some people want to compare this war to other conventional war's.........it's not possible, these assholes don't play by any "rules" as in conventional war's, they don't care who they use (women and children) or who they kill (women and children).
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it's not possible, these assholes don't play by any "rules" as in conventional war's,.
Like we keep detainees in guantanamo bay in conditions that break just about every protocol of the geneva conventions? ;D
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Like we keep detainees in guantanamo bay in conditions that break just about every protocol of the geneva conventions? ;D
They are not considered military, they are criminals and we don't need to conform to Geneva.
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They are not considered military, they are criminals and we don't need to conform to Geneva.
Joe,
If we invade Iran, should we be allowed to torture their army members when we capture them?
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Joe,
If we invade Iran, should we be allowed to torture their army members when we capture them?
Define torture.
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Define torture.
LOL!!
Your answer should have been an automatic "HELL NO, We cannot torture them because they're part of a national army".
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Ok then, 2,740 died in 911 when USA was attacked by mainly Saudi Extremists, 4000 soldiers died in Iraq, one of the events generated 1000 times more sympathy than the other, Ill let you work out the rest.
Thanks DB...I am currently too ill to work out the rest, thanks for your response anyhow.
Mike
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They are not considered military, they are criminals and we don't need to conform to Geneva.
Of course they ain't ::)
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Thanks DB...I am currently too ill to work out the rest, thanks for your response anyhow.
Mike
Ask your doctor for other Meds to raise your Tcell count.
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LOL!!
Your answer should have been an automatic "HELL NO, We cannot torture them because they're part of a national army".
Maybe they will be 'considered' as criminals instead ;D
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They are not considered military, they are criminals and we don't need to conform to Geneva.
Should we be allowed to torture criminals (bad guys we pick up off the streets) in every nation in which we are present? Korea? Germany? We have bases all over the world. Can we now torture anyone we pick up off the streets because "They are not considered military"?
Joe, we prosecuted soldiers who torture in WWII. Yes, the japanese had suicide bombers and did all sorts of things that violated geneva - but we - the mighty USA - were alwasy above it. yes, our enemies played dirty and hid amongst citizens and did all the dirty shit we see today. But we were ABOVE IT.
I feel you've let your standards slide. I love my country and want her to be the ROLE MODEL for all that is right in the world. I don't want to play fucking word games, and try to condone torture in as many instances as possible. That's shady at best.
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I agree but the fact that America chose to go to Iraq under zero threat factors in greatly too.
Again, friends.
We "SEE" no threat. We everyday people are not permitted to see what really goes on.
Its my OPINION that we are well protected by our well-meaning government.
Mike
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Part of the problem is, some people want to compare this war to other conventional war's.........it's not possible, these assholes don't play by any "rules" as in conventional war's, they don't care who they use (women and children) or who they kill (women and children).
JoeLocal...you have NEVER been more correct.
Mike
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Should we be allowed to torture criminals (bad guys we pick up off the streets) in every nation in which we are present? Korea? Germany? We have bases all over the world. Can we now torture anyone we pick up off the streets because "They are not considered military"?
Joe, we prosecuted soldiers who torture in WWII. Yes, the japanese had suicide bombers and did all sorts of things that violated geneva - but we - the mighty USA - were alwasy above it. yes, our enemies played dirty and hid amongst citizens and did all the dirty shit we see today. But we were ABOVE IT.
I feel you've let your standards slide. I love my country and want her to be the ROLE MODEL for all that is right in the world. I don't want to play fucking word games, and try to condone torture in as many instances as possible. That's shady at best.
Again....define "torture".
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Mike are you going to reply to my post on the bottom of the first page? ;)
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They are not considered military, they are criminals and we don't need to conform to Geneva.
Correct.
Mike
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I understand that we need to do things to keep bases in touchy areas to keep our enemies honest (and we built em!). and I understand that we need to control that oil flow (which we now do) and keep it in dollars (which we have done!)
So I understand for the longterm strength of the USA, we need to war every now and then if we want to remain #1. It's how the world works, like it or not.
I just don't like dishonesty. I don't like people playing word games, insulting my intelligence, etc. When you hear folks say "it's about helping them, not oil" or "we're doing it to help them"... it's fucking ignorance.
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Ask your doctor for other Meds to raise your Tcell count.
Believe me, bro, I am on everything. They are too kind .
Mike
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Again....define "torture".
torture by geneva definition. you have wiki. look it up. we're not going to play word games about "well... I'm not suuuuuuuure waterboarding is actually torture".
Cause that's ignorant. Take 5 min of it and tell the class if it's torture. Of course it is.
I'm all for killing every enemy SOB and doing it fast. But Joe, you're a christian man. Would you really sit and waterboard a 70-pound woman for 45 minutes if Jesus Christ was sitting in the room with you?
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Should we be allowed to torture criminals (bad guys we pick up off the streets) in every nation in which we are present? Korea? Germany? We have bases all over the world. Can we now torture anyone we pick up off the streets because "They are not considered military"?
Joe, we prosecuted soldiers who torture in WWII. Yes, the japanese had suicide bombers and did all sorts of things that violated geneva - but we - the mighty USA - were alwasy above it. yes, our enemies played dirty and hid amongst citizens and did all the dirty shit we see today. But we were ABOVE IT.
I feel you've let your standards slide. I love my country and want her to be the ROLE MODEL for all that is right in the world. I don't want to play fucking word games, and try to condone torture in as many instances as possible. That's shady at best.
I am with you 240.
We are still the hallmark for all other nations.
BNut it is a far different world. The circumstances are much more monolithic.
Mike
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Maybe 'he' will claim they died for your sins 8)
Jesus had a great time being staked to a cross, he was a criminal though :(
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Mike are you going to reply to my post on the bottom of the first page? ;)
Guess not ;D
the truth will set you free 8)
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I am with you 240.
We are still the hallmark for all other nations.
BNut it is a far different world. The circumstances are much more monolithic.
Mike
If that is the case, okay. But I dont' see the difference between a japanese kid willing to pack his nose with TNT and fly his plane into a nurses' station in 1941, with a guy who will wear a bomb into a checkpoint today.
They're both insane assholes who should be eliminated. Fo sho.
But why was it (agreed by all) a crime in 1941 to torture them, and A-OK in 2007?
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Mike are you going to reply to my post on the bottom of the first page? ;)
Just did NOC
Mike
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Guess not ;D
the truth will set you free 8)
Don't be so impetuous, NOC. I am slow these days and ONLY have time left for truth.
Mike
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But Joe, you're a christian man. Would you really sit and waterboard a 70-pound woman for 45 minutes if Jesus Christ was sitting in the room with you?
C'mon Rob, gimme a freaking break!!
All this talk in the liberal media about water boarding is a complete crock of SHIT and I hope you know it. No one has died or even came close from waterboarding......but they have from having their heads cut off!!
For Gods sake, our local law enforcement right here in the good ol' US of A is doing things a hell of alot worse than "waterboarding"......like tasing the f*** out someone with 50,000 volts, I'd bet money that hurts worse than waterbording, all waterboarding is, is physcological, nothing more.
Personally, if it saves thousands of our troops and people in our country....I have no problem with it.
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C'mon Rob, gimme a freaking break!!
All this talk in the liberal media about water boarding is a complete crock of SHIT and I hope you know it. No one has died or even came close from waterboarding......but they have from having their heads cut off!!
For Gods sake, our local law enforcement right here in the good ol' US of A is doing things a hell of alot worse than "waterboarding"......like tasing the f*** out someone with 50,000 volts, I'd bet money that hurts worse than waterbording, all waterboarding is, is physcological, nothing more.
Personally, if it saves thousands of our troops and people in our country....I have no problem with it.
lol... it's a tough question... i'm hoping you'll answer it.
We shouldn't do, or condone, any action that we wouldn't want the good Lord to see, as he is omnipresent and sees all. If you do condone waterboarding, then it can be done on anyone, for any amount of time, as you well know.
So if you're sitting there, with Jesus Christ himself in the room, would you seriously waterboard a 70-pound woman for 45 minutes straight? Could you do it? Or is this one of those cases where you couldn't personally do it, but you condone it?
ANY action you support - you should be able to do it yourself, as you are carrying that moral baggage too.
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I'm just curious 'Mike' how you've come to that conclusion.
I have to answer this a second time...first did not go through.
Was it the weekly suicide bombings in vastly populated markets, the rape and murders of Iraqi's by U.S marines
How many times did this happenby our guys...several?
Compare this to the murdering of Iraqui ladies who show too much leg...
or the odd 'precision'( ::)) missile that misses its target.
Meaning...we are doing this on purpose? Generals are generals just for those reasons...they decide what is best in war...not lunchpail joes like you and me...you and I will NEVER, EVER know what really goes on in war or behind the closed doors...so how could we ever hope to converse eloquently on these topics...we cannot...
Or are you just blindly celebrating a fake democracy?
Don't know what they have over there,...probably not democ...they will be fighting and killing each other over the Gaza strip for the rest of eternity...you and I know that
I don't listen/read American media but since its Jew ran, it's reports are tinted with 'kosherness' :D And since Israeli's and Muslims are best friends, I'm not sure how this would effect my current anti-war stance ???
Don't like the Jew statement...that';s your right...I have written in National media...google me...I have had forums in USA Today...and its hard to be heard...the media is a dirty, powerful, corrupt machine.
mike
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lol... it's a tough question... i'm hoping you'll answer it.
We shouldn't do, or condone, any action that we wouldn't want the good Lord to see, as he is omnipresent and sees all. If you do condone waterboarding, then it can be done on anyone, for any amount of time, as you well know.
So if you're sitting there, with Jesus Christ himself in the room, would you seriously waterboard a 70-pound woman for 45 minutes straight? Could you do it? Or is this one of those cases where you couldn't personally do it, but you condone it?
ANY action you support - you should be able to do it yourself, as you are carrying that moral baggage too.
Simple answer........if Jesus was sitting next to me in the room, I'd quickly let him handle it. Just like I do in life, when something gets difficult, I give ALL to Him.
BUT, I seriously don't think He would have a problem if it meant saving the lives of innocent people......it's the whole Good Vs. Evil thing Rob.
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God Bless all of our men and women over there, and in all foreign, hostile lands.
Mike
They got no business being there, you come to occupy a foreign country, pe prepared to die bitch.
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Simple answer........if Jesus was sitting next to me in the room, I'd quickly let him handle it. Just like I do in life, when something gets difficult, I give ALL to Him.
Then you should abstain from sitting on forums talking about the NEED to waterboard.
If you wouldn't do it yourself... well...
That's just my take. I wouldn't want to stand at the pearly gates and mumble some excuse about "Technically, waterboarding isn't torture because...."
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epic quoting skills Mike ;D
You didn't really answer why Iraqi's are better off...which was what I asked, unless its some where in that junk of text.
Replying to 'Compare this to the murdering of Iraqui ladies who show too much leg...' - Are you trying to justify or compare rape and murder by marines to the way of life in some parts of the middle east? They live in the stone ages and have a extreme way of going about things.
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http://nothingtoxic.com/media/1130133600/Marines_Blowing__Up_Snipers
640 grains of diplomacy ;D
fuck afghanistan
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They got no business being there, you come to occupy a foreign country, pe prepared to die bitch.
::)....please!
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Simple answer........if Jesus was sitting next to me in the room, I'd quickly let him handle it. Just like I do in life, when something gets difficult, I give ALL to Him.
hahahahhahhaha
'What would Jesus do?' (WWJD) He'd dunk that bitches head under the water until she started talking, ya 'feel me? ::)
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reason for war = ALL OIL
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::)....please!
Cut the propaganda bullshit, some of us have braincells
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Then you should abstain from sitting on forums talking about the NEED to waterboard.
If you wouldn't do it yourself... well...
That's just my take. I wouldn't want to stand at the pearly gates and mumble some excuse about "Technically, waterboarding isn't torture because...."
Example; If someone kidnapped my son and I knew someone who knew about it and wouldn't tell me, I'd be doing a hell of alot more than making them THINK they were drowning. Do you follow?
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hahaha funny thread, I knew I'd find 240 running around in here and "joelocal" too......you guys are funny. ;D
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hahahahhahhaha
'What would Jesus do?' (WWJD) He'd dunk that bitches head under the water until she started talking, ya 'feel me? ::)
I agree with this actually.
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so waht is the difference then?
why was it a crime and morally wrong in 1941, but a-okay in 2007?
anyone?
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Cut the propaganda bullshit, some of us have braincells
No, propaganda is when the lib media makes you think waterboarding is torture compared to decapitation, then blame the US for the terrorist problem.
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Its funny how one soul like 240 or bust can be smarter then 1000 bunch of people's intelect combined. just funny.
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so waht is the difference then?
why was it a crime and morally wrong in 1941, but a-okay in 2007?
anyone?
So it's morally wrong to fight for your freedom? Because thats whats threatend......Rob, you don't feel your freedom is being threatened?
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No, propaganda is when the lib media makes you think waterboarding is torture compared to decapitation, then blame the US for the terrorist problem.
Is every Iraqi who tries to defend his country from foreign invaders, a terrorist?
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So it's morally wrong to fight for your freedom? Because thats whats threatend......Rob, you don't feel your freedom is being threatened?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Thats enough for me. hahahahahahaha
'Joe' was one of those guys hiding in his home made bomb shelter when the lies of weapons were spewed. 'He' ran drills with his family as he also believed the other lie about Iraq being able to launch within twenty minutes and used a stop watch every time!
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Is every Iraqi who tries to defend his country from foreign invaders, a terrorist?
What are you talking about? What part of this war are you not following?
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So it's morally wrong to fight for your freedom? Because thats whats threatend......Rob, you don't feel your freedom is being threatened?
yes,but only by american politicians ;)
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What are you talking about? What part of this war are you not following?
I'm asking you a question. You going to answer it or ask me to 'define terrorist' hahahahah
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Its funny how one soul like 240 or bust can be smarter then 1000 bunch of people's intelect combined. just funny.
I happen to agree with 240 mostly and I felt this way back when 240 was spewing about conspiracies. ;)
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Thats enough for me. hahahahahahaha
'Joe' was one of those guys hiding in his home made bomb shelter when the lies of weapons were spewed. 'He' ran drills with his family as he also believed the other lie about Iraq being able to launch within twenty minutes and used a stop watch every time!
Ok then smartass, answer my question.
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I'm asking you a question. You going to answer it or ask me to 'define terrorist' hahahahah
anyone in my crosshairs.
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Its funny how one soul like 240 or bust can be smarter then 1000 bunch of people's intelect combined. just funny.
What are you talking about, Iraqi's are threatening our freedoms!
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anyone in my crosshairs.
bench
I'm glad I'm in CA ;D
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So it's morally wrong to fight for your freedom? Because thats whats threatend......Rob, you don't feel your freedom is being threatened?
Yes. And as I've said before, I would happily execute 20 terrorists, eat a ham sandwich, then finish off 20 more before most of the folks here would mumble thru asking permission to slap one of them.
I'm all for freedom and I do support the war in iraq - because I want a strong USA with bases and oil control.
Here's the thing tho Joe - our own troops have said - and the vast majority of them have said it - that they are AGAINST torture, because it highly raises their OWN chances of being tortured in response if ever caught. Remember the 2 guys who were gutted and had very horrible torture in response to abu ghirab? Shit man, no soldier wants that.
Most soldiers don't want us to torture and they don't want us to waterboard.
I respect their wishes. Do you?
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anyone in my crosshairs.
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Are you the next trench coat wearing mall/school shooting muthafucka? ;)
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Yes. And as I've said before, I would happily execute 20 terrorists, eat a ham sandwich, then finish off 20 more before most of the folks here would mumble thru asking permission to slap one of them.
I'm all for freedom and I do support the war in iraq - because I want a strong USA with bases and oil control.
Here's the thing tho Joe - our own troops have said - and the vast majority of them have said it - that they are AGAINST torture, because it highly raises their OWN chances of being tortured in response if ever caught. Remember the 2 guys who were gutted and had very horrible torture in response to abu ghirab? Shit man, no soldier wants that.
Most soldiers don't want us to torture and they don't want us to waterboard.
I respect their wishes. Do you?
My opinion is it's a catch22, you want the info they have, they don't want to give it to you......how do you get it? Torture? Bribery? Pretty please?
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Ok then smartass, answer my question.
Which one? The one about your freedoms being threatened by the middle east? I'm still laughing about that, good stuff ;D
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I'm glad I'm in CA ;D
you scared? ;D
just bullshitting,actually suppose to go next week to take the fourth and final class for my sniper school.
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Is every Iraqi who tries to defend his country from foreign invaders, a terrorist?
No, of course not.
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If you want to waterboard, okay.
You make it legal.
You tell geneva to fuck off.
You don't do it, tape it, hide it, admit it, deny it, etc etc.
You man the fuck up, make it legal, and you tell the world to kiss your ass.
All this side talk about 'define torture, see, that's not really torture'....
that's bitch talk.
you man up and legalize it all. Cut their balls off ad put it on youtube.
But for god's sake, be honest about it.
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Which one? The one about your freedoms being threatened by the middle east? I'm still laughing about that, good stuff ;D
I'm not even going to entertain that with an answer it was son rediculous.
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Yes. And as I've said before, I would happily execute 20 terrorists, eat a ham sandwich, then finish off 20 more before most of the folks here would mumble thru asking permission to slap one of them.
Someone please PLEASE post the picture of him bearing them two firearms and clips.
That would make a beautiful caption for that photo.
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Are you the next trench coat wearing mall/school shooting muthafucka? ;)
no,i am the the guy they bring in to take care of the trench coat wearing mall/school shooting muthafucka you speak of ;)
bench
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you scared? ;D
just bullshitting,actually suppose to go next week to take the fourth and final class for my sniper school.
bench
Awesome, you at the top of the class?
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You don't do it, tape it, hide it, admit it, deny it, etc etc.
You mean...CIA destroyed interrogation tapes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7132000.stm
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I'm not even going to entertain that with an answer it was son rediculous.
What was ridiculous 'rediculous'? What was your question?
You do like to talk in riddles; don't you?
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pic,1:Iraqi Christians light prayer candles after Christmas mass in Baghdad, Iraq, Tuesday, Dec. 25, 2007.
(AP Photo/ Khalid Mohammed)
pic,2:Iraqi Christians attend Christmas mass in the Dora neighborhood in Baghdad, Iraq on Tuesday, Dec. 25, 2007. The church was badly damaged by a car bomb two years ago, but worshippers continue to attend mass in what remains of the building.
(AP Photo/Loay Hameed)
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no,i am the the guy they bring in to take care of the trench coat wearing mall/school shooting muthafucka you speak of ;)
bench
Thank you, sir. 8)
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If you want to waterboard, okay.
You make it legal.
You tell geneva to fuck off.
You don't do it, tape it, hide it, admit it, deny it, etc etc.
You man the fuck up, make it legal, and you tell the world to kiss your ass.
All this side talk about 'define torture, see, that's not really torture'....
that's bitch talk.
you man up and legalize it all. Cut their balls off ad put it on youtube.
But for god's sake, be honest about it.
Sorry Rob, if it makes you feel better to legalize then fine, but if we're in their country, we can play by they're rules....which are no rules. They cut of our heads and video tape it and AlJezzera (CNN) propagandizes it, then the liberals raise a bitch about waterboarding??
To me (and this should be commonsense) is the most assnine argument I've ever heard.
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Awesome, you at the top of the class?
me and 2 other guys are tied for first right now,there is actually some pretty good talent in this class.
bench
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Sorry Rob, if it makes you feel better to legalize then fine, but if we're in their country, we can play by they're rules....which are no rules. They cut of our heads and video tape it and AlJezzera (CNN) propagandizes it, then the liberals raise a bitch about waterboarding??
To me (and this should be commonsense) is the most assnine argument I've ever heard.
Yes - if we are going to do it, let's legalize it.
That's all I am saying.
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Thank you, sir. 8)
no need to thank me,i get paid for it ;D
bench
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Did you piss your pants joelocal?
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me and 2 other guys are tied for first right now,there is actually some pretty good talent in this class.
bench
Do you have to retake this class every couple of years or is it a one time deal?
I am in favor of obtaining information by any means necessary, they have shown that they will not spare any means with our soldiers, why should we extend this courtesy to them?
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Did you piss your pants joelocal?
ROTFLMAO........hahahaha hahahahaha, that was great!
I haven't Jeff Dunham with Peanut in a long time, but that was freaking halarious ;D
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remember guys...
as torture is, there is no oversight.
make it legal, and you have standards and policy in place to ensure its done correctly.
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Do you have to retake this class every couple of years or is it a one time deal?
I am in favor of obtaining information by any means necessary, they have shown that they will not spare any means with our soldiers, why should we extend this courtesy to them?
i have to have 40 hours of sniper specific training every year and obtain a score of 290 out of 300 to keep the certification.
bench
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Did you piss your pants joelocal?
Dude, you have to check out the views of that......over 20mil. That made my night ;D
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remember guys...
as torture is, there is no oversight.
make it legal, and you have standards and policy in place to ensure its done correctly.
None of this matters.
Post up the picture of you brandishing the firearms, please ;D
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None of this matters.
Post up the picture of you brandishing the firearms, please ;D
lol
i dont have it on this pc, but i'm sure 20 people here do have it :)
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i have to have 40 hours of sniper specific training every year and obtain a score of 290 out of 300 to keep the certification.
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Every year!! So you train sniper specific quite often I assume, like maybe with a neighbors pig or something?
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hahahhahaha holy crap never saw this
:D WALTER is a funny dude!
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Every year!! So you train sniper specific quite often I assume, like maybe with a neighbors pig or something?
i live on a lot of empty land and on the days i work i shoot 5 precision round at unknown ranges.
on day that i don't work i shoot as many rounds as it takes from 50-1200 yards or until feel like i accomplished something.
and yes i kill a fuckton of hogs,i generally give them to my friends and neighbors,because i don't like to clean the filthy bastards ;D
bench
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hahahhahaha holy crap never saw this
:D WALTER is a funny dude!
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I've been going through all of them since you posted the first one....LOL!!
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hahahhahaha holy crap never saw this
:D WALTER is a funny dude!
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"Sweet Daddy D"....
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lol this 240 guy is quite the comedian
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Simple answer........if Jesus was sitting next to me in the room, I'd quickly let him handle it. Just like I do in life, when something gets difficult, I give ALL to Him.
BUT, I seriously don't think He would have a problem if it meant saving the lives of innocent people......it's the whole Good Vs. Evil thing Rob.
This is a truly scary post
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my friend was there last Christmas, they give him 2 beers.
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Everyone always freaks out over "torture" but thses insurgants are not UNIFORMED combatants. Contrary to popular belief US has treated POW's pretty well when the POW's are in UNIFORM. Look through history and if you are not in uniform and your captured you get treated as a spy and usually excecuted ( this goes for all militaries). I love it, how so many people hate the military just because they hate Bush. People always forget what happens to US servicemen when they are captured.
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They got no business being there, you come to occupy a foreign country, pe prepared to die bitch.
Then DON'T come around, as you always do, asking the US for "Millions Of Dollars in Aid" which invariably goes into your totalatarian leader's pocket while your people starve.
Civilized my ass.
Bitch.
Mike
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epic quoting skills Mike ;D
You didn't really answer why Iraqi's are better off...which was what I asked, unless its some where in that junk of text.
Replying to 'Compare this to the murdering of Iraqui ladies who show too much leg...' - Are you trying to justify or compare rape and murder by marines to the way of life in some parts of the middle east? They live in the stone ages and have a extreme way of going about things.
#1: I am not good at "Epic Quoting" or use of the computer. Sorry, friend. I tgrust if I can get my point across to you, then it should not matter. If it DOES matter, then I surmise you are trying to otherwise diffuse a weak argument with something you surmise to be more substantive.
I am saying that the media overblows monumentally the few times our guys take illegal liberties over there. They should be punished, and will be.
They also get tired of playing bny your blessed "rules" that the enemy laughs heartily at and disobeys regularly.
You go over there and trying fighting under those circumstances.
I compare that to the fact that women have NO RIGHTS there...and are killed for being seen in cars by themselves, dressing inappropriately, etc.
So, yes, in my very humble opinion, they are better off with us there.
NONE OF US ARE OVER THERE FIGHTING. Thus, I listen to the opinions of the guys and ladies there. Not YOU AND ME.
Just one tax-payers opinion.
Mike
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Example; If someone kidnapped my son and I knew someone who knew about it and wouldn't tell me, I'd be doing a hell of alot more than making them THINK they were drowning. Do you follow?
Maybe THAT these guys will finally understand, Joe.
Mike
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so waht is the difference then?
why was it a crime and morally wrong in 1941, but a-okay in 2007?
anyone?
Because times have changed, 240. You are a smart guy and you know this.
Mike
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No, propaganda is when the lib media makes you think waterboarding is torture compared to decapitation, then blame the US for the terrorist problem.
The liberal media is one of our bigger problems today.
Mike
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Is every Iraqi who tries to defend his country from foreign invaders, a terrorist?
I can assure you they will not do a good job against Iran.
Mike
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Thats enough for me. hahahahahahaha
'Joe' was one of those guys hiding in his home made bomb shelter when the lies of weapons were spewed. 'He' ran drills with his family as he also believed the other lie about Iraq being able to launch within twenty minutes and used a stop watch every time!
Bush Lied...wahwahwah...There is NO PROOF THERE ARE NOT WMD'S there.
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Yes. And as I've said before, I would happily execute 20 terrorists, eat a ham sandwich, then finish off 20 more before most of the folks here would mumble thru asking permission to slap one of them.
I'm all for freedom and I do support the war in iraq - because I want a strong USA with bases and oil control.
AGREE
Here's the thing tho Joe - our own troops have said - and the vast majority of them have said it - that they are AGAINST torture, because it highly raises their OWN chances of being tortured in response if ever caught. Remember the 2 guys who were gutted and had very horrible torture in response to abu ghirab? Shit man, no soldier wants that.
Most soldiers don't want us to torture and they don't want us to waterboard.
I respect their wishes. Do you?
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Which one? The one about your freedoms being threatened by the middle east? I'm still laughing about that, good stuff ;D
You are not very cosmopolitan.
Mike
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You mean...CIA destroyed interrogation tapes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7132000.stm
Good...if the fucking media knew what the CIA was up to, they'd send a video to Usama himself.
Mike
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Do you have to retake this class every couple of years or is it a one time deal?
I am in favor of obtaining information by any means necessary, they have shown that they will not spare any means with our soldiers, why should we extend this courtesy to them?
agreed...they are animals
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Everyone always freaks out over "torture" but thses insurgants are not UNIFORMED combatants. Contrary to popular belief US has treated POW's pretty well when the POW's are in UNIFORM. Look through history and if you are not in uniform and your captured you get treated as a spy and usually excecuted ( this goes for all militaries). I love it, how so many people hate the military just because they hate Bush. People always forget what happens to US servicemen when they are captured.
Here is the true hilarity to this post.
Anyone who blames Bush for ANYTHING should really take a good look at their own lives.
ONE MAN (bush) really has NOTHING to do with you as an individual.
He does not awaken and say, "I am really going to fuck with John Doe today".
Blaming a politician is an easy way to provide a scapegoat for one's own, failed life(in many cases).
Govern YOURSELF.
Clean up your own house.
And you will love living in a country (US) you seem to hate.
Mike
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Because times have changed, 240. You are a smart guy and you know this.
Mike
How? No one can define this. THIS is why it should be made legal so there is a structure and there are rules and policy. Letting our guys torture as they please, when they please, isn't consistent and will not yield consistent results.
If we have to do it, then 1) explain how they're different from the japanese, and 2) smile at the world and give them the finger and say we're going to do it. stop being bitches and hiding and semi-admitting it.
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How? No one can define this. THIS is why it should be made legal so there is a structure and there are rules and policy. Letting our guys torture as they please, when they please, isn't consistent and will not yield consistent results.
If we have to do it, then 1) explain how they're different from the japanese, and 2) smile at the world and give them the finger and say we're going to do it. stop being bitches and hiding and semi-admitting it.
Agreed.
We should legalize it.
Mike
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British soldiers eat Christmas lunch in Lashkar Gah, Helmand Province, Afghanistan December 25, 2007. REUTERS/Captain Andrea Magowan/Crown Copyright/MOD 2007 (AFGHANISTAN).
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I hope the Soldiers put a hundred rounds to that sick fuck 40 year old man who married that 11 year old girl in a previous thread.
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I hope the Soldiers put a hundred rounds to that sick fuck 40 year old man who married that 11 year old girl in a previous thread.
whoa...KM...what was THAT about???
Mike
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whoa...KM...what was THAT about???
Mike
Ron removed the thread of a 40 year old guy with his 11 year old wife(Photo)It turned into a Muslim bashing thread so it should have been removed
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Nice thread...
Merry Xmas