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In order for a natural trying to lose as much bf as possible, what is the best routine? Say given 2 months time to follow it. As for a diet....???? "BB type diet", low carb, what? Your opinions
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weights too, muscle burns fat even while at rest.
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i prefer low carb, with low intensity cardio first thing in the morning and after a workout.
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i'm sure our resident nutritional guru candizzle will soon chine in with more of his insightful dietary commentary.
i suggest we defer posting until such time so that we may all bask in his wisdom and knowledge.
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i'm sure our resident nutritional guru candizzle will soon chine in with more of his insightful dietary commentary.
i suggest we defer posting until such time so that we may all bask in his wisdom and knowledge.
Agreed...he'll break it down to the amount of absorbed protein grams..he knows his shit.haha
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Well, I am very far from a nutrition guru or high-class trainer or anything of the like. My best suggestion is weights + cardio + low carb.
::shrugs:::
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Well, I am very far from a nutrition guru or high-class trainer or anything of the like. My best suggestion is weights + cardio + low carb.
::shrugs:::
sounds about right
cardio + fat burner..30 min morning
Weights + 20 min cardio post work out
Controlled calorie..I hate low carb diets
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sounds about right
cardio + fat burner..30 min morning
Weights + 20 min cardio post work out
Controlled calorie..I hate low carb diets
question for you or anyone else. i want to cut out the carbs to a certain extent, but protein food alone does not make me filled and I find myself hungry again not much later. any suggestions?
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In order for a natural trying to lose as much bf as possible, what is the best routine? Say given 2 months time to follow it. As for a diet....???? "BB type diet", low carb, what? Your opinions
Are you getting ready for a show or just want to drop some weight?
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question for you or anyone else. i want to cut out the carbs to a certain extent, but protein food alone does not make me filled and I find myself hungry again not much later. any suggestions?
add some healthy fats, check out the nutrition board.
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cut out the carbs. eat veggies. keep your fats to a minimal...supplement with omega 3's and some cla..eat one or two yolks in the morning. chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli and some more chicken&broccoli.
train with weights...make sure you train every muscle group over the course of the week. cardio twice a day for 45 mins.
eca + green tea + yohimbe 3 times a day..
put spices on every meal. (cayenne, red pepper, chili powder, black pepper, sodium based calorie free hot sauces..)
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cut out the carbs. eat veggies. keep your fats to a minimal...supplement with omega 3's and some cla..eat one or two yolks in the morning. chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli and some more chicken&broccoli.
train with weights...make sure you train every muscle group over the course of the week. cardio twice a day for 45 mins.
eca + green tea + yohimbe 3 times a day..
put spices on every meal. (cayenne, red pepper, chili powder, black pepper, sodium based calorie free hot sauces..)
before you go so extreme, find out what his goals are.
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before you go so extreme, find out what his goals are.
he said it was losing as much fat as possible. ...in my opinion...that is the absolute best way to lose fat. no better way...unless you are going to add in some clen, some t-3, and possibly some test..
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question for you or anyone else. i want to cut out the carbs to a certain extent, but protein food alone does not make me filled and I find myself hungry again not much later. any suggestions?
why cut the carbs..I try to eat a moderate diet. I try to minimize the carbs but I won't go out of my way to eliminate it.
30/30/30 split works for me..I am never going onstage so no need to cut the carbs low
keep the calories somewhat low, mix in cardio and eca with your weight training and you should be ok.
don't over complicate it..hell, tonight I am going to drink baileys and eat a chicken Roti for dinner
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why cut the carbs..I try to eat a moderate diet. I try to minimize the carbs but I won't go out of my way to eliminate it.
30/30/30 split works for me..I am never going onstage so no need to cut the carbs low
keep the calories somewhat low, mix in cardio and eca with your weight training and you should be ok.
don't over complicate it..hell, tonight I am going to drink baileys and eat a chicken Roti for dinner
and get moderate results.
eat an extreme diet...get extreme results.
(note..balance and moderation are two seperate things....every diet needs BALANCE. but you can go extreme and still hold a good balance.
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before you go so extreme, find out what his goals are.
Joe is absolutely correct.
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In order for a natural trying to lose as much bf as possible,
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why cut the carbs..I try to eat a moderate diet. I try to minimize the carbs but I won't go out of my way to eliminate it.
30/30/30 split works for me..I am never going onstage so no need to cut the carbs low
keep the calories somewhat low, mix in cardio and eca with your weight training and you should be ok.
don't over complicate it..hell, tonight I am going to drink baileys and eat a chicken Roti for dinner
Well, I would not say eliminate them completely, but I definitely need to cut back. I was just curious for those meals where I do not include many carbs, how do I fill up to curb the hunger pangs later on?
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cut out the carbs. eat veggies. keep your fats to a minimal...supplement with omega 3's and some cla..eat one or two yolks in the morning. chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli and some more chicken&broccoli.
train with weights...make sure you train every muscle group over the course of the week. cardio twice a day for 45 mins.
eca + green tea + yohimbe 3 times a day..
put spices on every meal. (cayenne, red pepper, chili powder, black pepper, sodium based calorie free hot sauces..)
you're out of your mind no one is going to eat that much damn chicken and broccoli.
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and get moderate results.
eat an extreme diet...get extreme results.
(note..balance and moderation are two seperate things....every diet needs BALANCE. but you can go extreme and still hold a good balance.
show us pictures of what your expert advice has done for your body?
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Cut calories and just continue to lift.. It's not rocket science. ::)
ECA can help also.
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cut out the carbs. eat veggies. keep your fats to a minimal...supplement with omega 3's and some cla..eat one or two yolks in the morning. chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli and some more chicken&broccoli.
train with weights...make sure you train every muscle group over the course of the week. cardio twice a day for 45 mins.
eca + green tea + yohimbe 3 times a day..
put spices on every meal. (cayenne, red pepper, chili powder, black pepper, sodium based calorie free hot sauces..)
This is actually some solid advice. But who could stick to it?
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This is actually some solid advice. But who could stick to it?
a competitive bodybuilders..candidate is a joke
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he did trim down a lot though
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This is actually some solid advice. But who could stick to it?
Sorry, way too much chicken. Why can't he eat fish or ground turkey to lose weight as well? Why only chicken, chicken and more chicken???
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Cut calories and just continue to lift.. It's not rocket science. ::)
ECA can help also.
why cut the carbs..I try to eat a moderate diet. I try to minimize the carbs but I won't go out of my way to eliminate it.
30/30/30 split works for me..I am never going onstage so no need to cut the carbs low
keep the calories somewhat low, mix in cardio and eca with your weight training and you should be ok.
don't over complicate it..hell, tonight I am going to drink baileys and eat a chicken Roti for dinner
Camel..I don't know why people try to over complicate things
eat less, lift weights, mix in cardio
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he did trim down a lot though
Yeah, but do you really want to be miserable eating chicken all day? There has to be a more efficient way.
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Sorry, way too much chicken. Why can't he eat fish or ground turkey to lose weight as well? Why only chicken, chicken and more chicken???
because candidate is a 19y/o skinny fat kid..that doesn't know shit about the human body
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Yeah, but do you really want to be miserable eating chicken all day? There has to be a more efficient way.
yes there is....eat normal but eat less...lift weight, mix in cardio
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because candidate is a 19y/o skinny fat kid..that doesn't know shit about the human body
Alright, that pretty much answers my question :)
to medford: I see no reason why you can't include fish in your diet or ground turkey. I mean, everything in moderation.
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yeah mix it up. isn't salmon very healthy?
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yeah mix it up. isn't salmon very healthy?
I mean do not take my advice as gold, but I am pretty sure a lot of the different types of fish is healthy for you. A lot of protein and not high in carbs. Salmon is healthy for you.
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This is actually some solid advice. But who could stick to it?
exactly and without knowing his level of commitment the person may be better served by only cutting his cals by 500 per day.
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Sorry, way too much chicken. Why can't he eat fish or ground turkey to lose weight as well? Why only chicken, chicken and more chicken???
Yes, you can eat other protein options...
Keep it simple people
1.) Weights and Cardio will burn more fat, keep you metabolism elevated longer and as you build muscle, you become much more efficient at utilizing calories.
2.) High Protein, tons of fibrous carbs (don't all have to be broccoli), moderate fats from sources high in EFA's.
3.) Rest and repeat next day! ;)
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yeah mix it up. isn't salmon very healthy?
for breakfast I had the McDonalds 2 sausage McMuffin sandwichs for $3..but I am still under daily caloric limit
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In order for a natural trying to lose as much bf as possible, what is the best routine? Say given 2 months time to follow it. As for a diet....???? "BB type diet", low carb, what? Your opinions
You don't read Muscle & Fitness? :D
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for breakfast I had the McDonalds 2 sausage McMuffin sandwichs for $3..but I am still under daily caloric limit
Try the bacon, egg and cheeseMcGriddle. Its awesome!
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25 mg of brokaid in the morning with a double espresso, 3 aspirin. Keep drinking like diet soda throughout the day and don't go out of your way cutting carbs as though you're some pro trying to shed water. Calories is the most important thing to worry about when shedding weight. Of course eat protein and stuff, but you can also be liberal with your diet.
Notice that a lot of people who don't advocate extremes like candizzle seems to have decent physiques too.. Remember that you're an average joe and will probably never step on stage, or will use extreme amounts of ass.
The only advice I'd recommend taking from candizzle is taking up a cocaine habit. Cocaine supresses hunger, as does ephedrine, so maybe you can add another stimulant component to the ECA stack at the risk of your heart.
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yeah mix it up. isn't salmon very healthy?
I know Candi's diet is extreme with chicken and broccoli all day, but I do know some competitors that eat salmon and broccli SIX TIMES A DAY when they diet for a show. TRUE STORY!
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I know Candi's diet is extreme with chicken and broccoli all day, but I do know some competitors that eat salmon and broccli SIX TIMES A DAY when they diet for a show. TRUE STORY!
I wouldnt doubt some competitors do it, but they are also stepping on stage and have to have that level of commitment. Medford is probably just an ordinary guy who just wants to lose weight. We don't want him to go crazy in the process eating chicken all day ;D
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Yes, you can eat other protein options...
Keep it simple people
1.) Weights and Cardio will burn more fat, keep you metabolism elevated longer and as you build muscle, you become much more efficient at utilizing calories.
2.) High Protein, tons of fibrous carbs (don't all have to be broccoli), moderate fats from sources high in EFA's.
3.) Rest and repeat next day! ;)
exactly, it's not nuclear physics.
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Try the bacon, egg and cheeseMcGriddle. Its awesome!
the new McSkillet burrito
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I wouldnt doubt some competitors do it, but they are also stepping on stage and have to have that level of commitment. Medford is probably just an ordinary guy who just wants to lose weight. We don't want him to go crazy in the process eating chicken all day ;D
Um, Medford is a woman. :-\
I don't expect HER to eat that way, and I would not suggest any bodbuilder to do it either. It's stupid and pointless. I like to mix up my sources of protein, carbs and fats so I do not get too bored during contest prep. Same goes for the average Joe.
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I know Candi's diet is extreme with chicken and broccoli all day, but I do know some competitors that eat salmon and broccli SIX TIMES A DAY when they diet for a show. TRUE STORY!
that is ok for competitors but for an average guy looking to drop some weight for the summer that is not sustainable
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My friend used to eat chicken and rice with vinegar or hot sause getting ready for shows. She said salmon is also healthy.
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Um, Medford is a woman. :-\
I don't expect HER to eat that way, and I would not suggest any bodbuilder to do it either. It's stupid and pointless. I like to mix up my sources of protein, carbs and fats so I do not get too bored during contest prep. Same goes for the average Joe.
Oh crap, well as you see, I am somewhat new to this board so I assumed it was a male. I guess since it was a bodybuilding board, I automatically assumed male. Damn, I am such a sexist pig :(
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25 mg of brokaid in the morning with a double espresso, 3 aspirin. Keep drinking like diet soda throughout the day and don't go out of your way cutting carbs as though you're some pro trying to shed water. Calories is the most important thing to worry about when shedding weight. Of course eat protein and stuff, but you can also be liberal with your diet.
Notice that a lot of people who don't advocate extremes like candizzle seems to have decent physiques too.. Remember that you're an average joe and will probably never step on stage, or will use extreme amounts of ass.
The only advice I'd recommend taking from candizzle is taking up a cocaine habit. Cocaine supresses hunger, as does ephedrine, so maybe you can add another stimulant component to the ECA stack at the risk of your heart.
the aspirin is debatable for the natties doing ECA..and certainly 3 aspirins is too much at one time for anyone.
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that is ok for competitors but for an average guy looking to drop some weight for the summer that is not sustainable
Never said it was, posted it to show how extreme and to what stupid levels people go. My point is there is no need to go that extreme!
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Try the bacon, egg and cheeseMcGriddle. Its awesome!
thanks..I will try it first thing in the morning
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ECA is awesome! I found a site that sells it, while you have to show your driver's id to buy claritan ::)
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Never said it was, posted it to show how extreme and to what stupid levels people go. My point is there is no need to go that extreme!
cool..what is wrong with just eating less, mixing in cardio and lifting weights
hell..I haven't taken any supplements in 3 months..and I don't plan to.
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ECA is awesome! I found a site that sells it, while you have to show your driver's id to buy claritan ::)
what site is that?
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cool..what is wrong with just eating less, mixing in cardio and lifting weights
hell..I haven't taken any supplements in 3 months..and I don't plan to.
Nothing wrong with eating "less" as you need to in order to lose bodyfat. Thing that worries me, is some cut calories way too low, lose all the muscle they worked hard for. I believe in eating in a slight caloric deficit as long as your P, C, F ratios are in check. Then, let cardio do its magic.
As for supps, what about a multi-vitamin when dieting? No way you get enough when you are dieting much less enough from regular diet alone.
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what site is that?
Bronkaid is sold over the counter at CVS or any pharmacy.. Each tablet has 25 mg ephedrine sulfate. By itself its a good upper, but stacking it with caffine gives you a pretty powerful stimulant stack that does work. The aspirin prolongs the effects(from my own experience anyways). Hell, I'd recommend ECA for recreational use.
Bronkaid packet is like $6.99 and comes with 24 tablets. Cheap and effective weight loss that's probably the best.
Medford, instead of buying Newports, spend the seven bucks on some Bronkaid, folgers instant coffee and aspirin. ::)
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Nothing wrong with eating "less" as you need to in order to lose bodyfat. Thing that worries me, is some cut calories way too low, lose all the muscle they worked hard for. I believe in eating in a slight caloric deficit as long as your P, C, F ratios are in check. Then, let cardio do its magic.
As for supps, what about a multi-vitamin when dieting? No way you get enough when you are dieting much less enough from regular diet alone.
alcohol provides my daily vitamin amount
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you guys act like controlling what you eat is a hard thing to do. i ahve done that diet i posted for months on end without a single cheat meal or cheat day...its all a matter of controlling your self. if you have the ability to keep you arm muscles from contracting, to keep them from closin in on a piece of food, to stop you muscles from involuntarily picking up something else and putting it in your mouth...you can stick to any diet.
you guys need to learn about willpower if you couldnt eat chicken and borccoli all day every day. (even though i DID say a few eggs in the morning as well.
you east only broccoli because broccoli does the best things for your body...and you would never eat turkey because its about as estrogenic as soy is, and you wouldnt want salmon when dieting beause its fat content is way to high, and you are saving your daily fat intake for the egg yolks, which will be boosting testosterone+protein synthesis+thyroid function. (cholestrol and iodine and arachidonic acid all are very high in egg yolks)
i know what the fuck im talking about...im the only person here who has dieted like i have. even mike arvilla lost a whole lot less fat that i did...and he was using gear and had a nutritionist and is a personal trainer.
take my advice and see the results.
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he said it was losing as much fat as possible. ...in my opinion...that is the absolute best way to lose fat. no better way...unless you are going to add in some clen, some t-3, and possibly some test..
No it's not, he'll rebound. "clen, t3, and test?" sounds like the guy just wants to drop fat not get ready for a show and have a heart attack.
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you guys act like controlling what you eat is a hard thing to do. i ahve done that diet i posted for months on end without a single cheat meal or cheat day...its all a matter of controlling your self. if you have the ability to keep you arm muscles from contracting, to keep them from closin in on a piece of food, to stop you muscles from involuntarily picking up something else and putting it in your mouth...you can stick to any diet.
You are talking about self control? You used to be an obese coke addict.
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alcohol provides my daily vitamin amount
That a boy! ;)
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cut out the carbs. eat veggies. keep your fats to a minimal...supplement with omega 3's and some cla..eat one or two yolks in the morning. chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli and some more chicken&broccoli.
train with weights...make sure you train every muscle group over the course of the week. cardio twice a day for 45 mins.
eca + green tea + yohimbe 3 times a day..
put spices on every meal. (cayenne, red pepper, chili powder, black pepper, sodium based calorie free hot sauces..)
point is, when someone really wants (needs) to lose fat as quickly as possible, this is the best way to do it.....
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point is, when someone really wants (needs) to lose fat as quickly as possible, this is the best way to do it.....
He can't eat that way forever.....he comes off, he rebounds......simple as that!
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You are talking about self control? You used to be an obese coke addict.
Yeah, why couldn't he control himself by not snorting coke?
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i know what the fuck im talking about...im the only person here who has dieted like i have. even mike arvilla lost a whole lot less fat that i did...and he was using gear and had a nutritionist and is a personal trainer.
take my advice and see the results.
You did lose a lot of weight - good job.
But to be fair, Arvilla is older and his metabolism is slower.
Furthermore, gear is anabolic, not catabolic. You gain more weight with gear under identical conditions, not lose more weight
Did you stay off the rec drugs while during your weight loss or was this a contributing factor?
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He can't eat that way forever.....he comes off, he rebounds......simple as that!
If the poster is genetically prone to fatness, only a strict diet will maintain him in a better shape, if he doesnt use any drugs , all he can do is a diet = control his nutrition but i guess people like you who are used to inject shit since decades dont even know what it means anymore.
i assume you re a longtime gear user, so why talk about losing weight with people who can only do it the natural way?
it makes no sense at all.
guy asked how to lose fat, he gave him a way to achieve his goal by folowing a strict and easy diet (and anyone with some brains understood he would have to do it for months )and never mentioned it had to be followed til his dying day, even if everyone know its how it works.
For a natural, staying in shape takes a lot of discipline and drive, its an everyday job, especially if your genetics are shit ; so the diet candizizle proposed is the realistic way to go.
The basics to lose weight and keep fatness low are; chicken /turkey and vegetables , water and physical activity, yes thats how it works in the "natural" world.
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If the poster is genetically prone to fatness, only a strict diet will maintain him in a better shape, if he doesnt use any drugs , all he can do is a diet = control his nutrition but i guess people like you who are used to inject shit since decades dont even know what it means anymore.
i assume you re a longtime gear user, so why talk about losing weight with people who can only do it the natural way?
it makes no sense at all.
guy asked how to lose fat, he gave him a way to achieve his goal by folowing a strict and easy diet (and anyone with some brains understood he would have to do it for months )and never mentioned it had to be followed til his dying day, even if everyone know its how it works.
For a natural, staying in shape takes a lot of discipline and drive, its an everyday job, especially if your genetics are shit ; so the diet candizizle proposed is the realistic way to go.
The basics to lose weight and keep fatness low are; chicken /turkey and vegetables , water and physical activity, yes thats how it works in the "natural" world.
have you seen pictures of candidate? for all of his extreme dieting he is still skinny fat ::)
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Keeping things simple and simply cutting calories is far easier than maintaining a chicken and veggies diet.. ::) Try candidate's shit and you're bound to get fucking sick of it and give up, or just eat a lot of cheat meals. Simply cutting calories and eating a balanced diet is easier to maintain and much more likely to yield better results for the average gym rat wanting to lose some weight.
And make sure you visit CVS and pick up some Bronkaid and Folgers instant coffee. 8)
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you guys act like controlling what you eat is a hard thing to do. i ahve done that diet i posted for months on end without a single cheat meal or cheat day...its all a matter of controlling your self. if you have the ability to keep you arm muscles from contracting, to keep them from closin in on a piece of food, to stop you muscles from involuntarily picking up something else and putting it in your mouth...you can stick to any diet.
you guys need to learn about willpower if you couldnt eat chicken and borccoli all day every day. (even though i DID say a few eggs in the morning as well.
you east only broccoli because broccoli does the best things for your body...and you would never eat turkey because its about as estrogenic as soy is, and you wouldnt want salmon when dieting beause its fat content is way to high, and you are saving your daily fat intake for the egg yolks, which will be boosting testosterone+protein synthesis+thyroid function. (cholestrol and iodine and arachidonic acid all are very high in egg yolks)
i know what the fuck im talking about...im the only person here who has dieted like i have. even mike arvilla lost a whole lot less fat that i did...and he was using gear and had a nutritionist and is a personal trainer.
take my advice and see the results.
I`ve dieted stricter than you many times......try tuna and water to get ripped.
You can eat salmon,turkey,and even ground turkey to get leaner without any problems whatsoever.
Broccoli can be replaced with any fibrous green vegetable.
Cycling carbs is a really good option also.
A calorie deficit while meeting protein requirements and cycling carbs with a high water intake woirks best for me,and will work for anyone as long as they stick to it.
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i assume you re a longtime gear user, so why talk about losing weight with people who can only do it the natural way?
it makes no sense at all.
The basics to lose weight and keep fatness low are; chicken /turkey and vegetables , water and physical activity, yes thats how it works in the "natural" world.
1. Because I do it for a living, have been for more than 20 years and I don't need to use gear, thermos, t3 or clen to have them achieve a long term healthy goal
2. I do agree with you those are the "basics", but there are a million more combinations one can use to drop weight, and of course, phyisical activity is important.
This is just one of many of my clients who have succeded using my methods.........
http://joelocalpt.com/success.htm
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I`ve dieted stricter than you many times......try tuna and water to get ripped.
You can eat salmon,turkey,and even ground turkey to get leaner without any problems whatsoever.
Broccoli can be replaced with any fibrous green vegetable.
Cycling carbs is a really good option also.
A calorie deficit while meeting protein requirements and cycling carbs with a high water intake woirks best for me,and will work for anyone as long as they stick to it.
Tim, you wrote a great artical on carb cycling......I think you should post it.
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Canned Jizz Load actually believes he has a Phd in Nutrional Science, just ask him.
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Thanks Joe......here it is:
Carb's... And Carb Cycling For Fat Loss
by Tim Wescott
When dieting for a bodybuilding contest, I use an arsenal of weapons to lose unsightly excess body fat. One of the dietary procedures I institute, is to cycle my carbs. Carbohydrates are used as energy by the body, they fuel our workouts, as well as providing ample fuel to be used throughout the course of the day. Ingesting carbs also replenishes our glucose and glycogen stores to prevent fatigue. Carb cycling allows you to still eat carbs from clean sources, without adding body fat, and cycling enables you to better utilize fat for burning as fuel, as opposed to burning carbs and muscle tissue for fuel.
Are Carbs The Evil Enemy ??
Carbs are not the evil villian the media makes them out to be. Improper carb timing can however, cause these carbs to be stored as fat. Carbs are not essential to the body, but they make dieting, and eating in general, a lot easier and more pleasurable... as long as the carbs are from the proper sources. Carbs get a bad rap in the news lately, due to people jumping on the proverbial bandwagon to make a buck off the latest trend in dieting.... low carbs! There are tons of low carb foods hitting the grocery stores daily, everything from bread, to potato chips, can now be found with a low carb label.
A few years back it was all about bashing fats....remember??
What will it be next year....protein? We'll just have to wait and see I guess, but they'll think of something.
Junk Carbs !!
Carbohydrates eaten in excess, or eaten at the wrong times, can help to add adipose tissue to the body, but they are not a bad thing if incorporated into a diet properly. Eat the majority of your carbs early in the day and at the post-workout meal, tapering off on them as the day goes on. Never eat carbs late at night, opt for protein instead. Sugar laden junk foods are always bad, and they are comprised mostly of carbs, and fat. In turn, they should have no place in a serious bodybuilders diet. If people eliminated, or cut down on junk food alone, they would lose a lot of weight, and look and feel much better for it. Quitting junk food however, is usually too much to ask for most people. Most junk food is simply calorie dense garbage, totally devoid of any nutrients.
When I devise a diet for a trainee ,the first step I implement is to have them cut back on junk gradually, until it is totally eliminated from the diet, except for the rare occasional treat. Once it's gone from the diet, it's usually not thought about again, except for the occasional craving. Eating junk food is a conditioned thing that can, and should be eliminated. In this article I will outline a plan that still allows you to eat healthy amounts of good carbs, and still lose fat in the process.
As I mentioned earlier, it's not carbs that are the villain, but rather the type of carbs eaten, and the specific times that they are ingested. If you are indulging in junk food on a daily basis, then you will most likely get fatter. Another problem is eating carbs too close to bedtime, when your activity and expenditure of energy is lessened. This is not a mystery, and all that's needed by the person looking to lose body fat is a lifestyle change !! Cut down on eating the crap, and you'll be well on your way to better health, increased energy, and a leaner body.
The Proper Attitude !!
When talking to bodybuilder's and other's, that want to lose fat, or increase muscular definition for competition purposes, I often find a trend in their thinking that they can still eat things in moderate portions that are usually considered taboo, while on most diets. Terms like "re-feed","cheat meal,"and "cheat day," almost always come up. These ideas can be used to your advantage, but in my opinion, you should wait until you are pretty close to achieving your desired body fat % goals before even thinking about them at all. Yes folks, I'm an "old school" type of guy who will tell you right off the bat, that you MUST make some sacrifices, and give up all negative eating habits to achieve these goals if you want to succeed in losing fat or winning a contest!!
I typically diet down for bodybuilding contests achieving approximately 3 - 5% body fat. Did I accomplish this while cheating and eating the occasional junk treat? My answer is a resounding NO. I suffered a bit here and there, but once I flip the switch in my mind to eat "clean" I do just that. There can be no half measures. You must get into the proper mindset and stay completely focused on achieving your goals, if you screw around and cheat once, you will repeat this cheating again and again. I know this from early attempts at getting cut-up, and from experiences learned from training my clients. Remain steadfast on your mission to getting lean, and you most definitely will.
Cycling Carbs !!
What we do when we cycle carbs in the manner that I advise, is to have three low carb days, followed by two higher carb days, to aid in recovery, and to replenish glycogen. This gives us just the right amount of carbs to be used as fuel without becoming an excessive amount. Always use carbs from clean foods not junk foods of course. The most important thing about carb cycling, in my opinion, is too never go too high throughout the diet, except for the latter stages, and only if necessary. We'll discuss this aspect of the diet later in this article!
What I recommend as a starting point, to determine just how many carbs you should eat on your highest day, is to eat 1 to 1.5 grams of carbs per pound of bodyweight. Start out using the latter number and adjust according to your results. I might add that it is vital to keep a nutrition journal when cycling carbs to be able to chart progress and make adjustments during the diet. This takes the guesswork out of dieting, and can also be looked back upon in the future to see how the body responded to certain tactics, and is an invaluable tool.
NOTE: Do not count fibrous vegetables into your total carb count for the day. They are low in calories and carbs and are a good source of fiber and do not count in the scheme of things while carb cycling. Only count starchy complex carbs.
Some tweaking will of course be necessary for most, as some of us are a bit more "carb sensitive" than others. Activity level, training intensity level, age, as well as sex, will determine how much you will need to adjust things, but as a rule I have found that 200 grams of carbs as your highest amount, is a good place to start. After a time you can decide whether you want to raise them a bit, or lower them, based on your results, and your body's feedback. It is a good practice to try this technique well in advance of your contest to sort of "learn" your body, and how it responds to this procedure.
Below is an example of my 5 day carb cycling method using 200 grams of carbs as the highest amount on a high day.
Day-1)150 grams
Day-2)100 grams
Day-3) 50 grams
Day-4)125 grams
Day-5)200 grams
Repeat cycle as written, throughout the course of the diet.
Essentially what I do is drop 50 grams of carbs over the course of the first 3 days, then increase by 75 grams, for the next two days. Some people prefer to raise fat intake on the lower carb days, or to increase fats on their off training days, to make up for the lost calories on the lower carb days. You can do this if you choose to, but I find it interferes with the fat burning process as fat is a calorie dense macronutrient that is needed by the body, but builds no muscle.
I also believe that without the fat increase you will burn more fat as fuel on the low carb days, especially when training hard, dieting and doing cardiovascular workouts. Besides as far as calories go, protein and carbs are not calorie dense and you must be in a calorie deficit to lose body fat for a lengthy period of time such as a 16 week contest prep diet or just a fat loss diet for the fitness enthusiast, no matter if he or she competes or not.
Reaching A Plateau !!
Eventually, you will more than likely reach a fat burning plateau, and this is the time where we can implement a "tweak" in the cycle plan. The body is resistant to change and it will eventually adapt to any stressors put upon it so after a time you may stop burning fat as fuel.
This is a good time to suddenly eat 3-4 good high carb days in a row ,or to simply eat a "cheat" meal or have a "cheat" day, just to trip up the metabolism, and get it jumpstarted so to speak, thus enabling the fat burning process to resume.
Another way you can also accomplish this is to go to zero carbs for 3 days and 3 days only. This will accomplish the same thing as the 3-4 high carb days or the "cheats". This is the only time to take fibrous vegetables into consideration, as no carbs whatsoever should be ingested during the 3 zero carb days. Do not stay at zero carbs for any longer than 3 days, and never go below 50 carbs as your lowest amount, throughout the entire length of the diet other than the occasional zero carb 3 day period. Any lower, and the brain suffers, and thinking becomes cloudy, as the brain needs a certain amount of carbs to function optimally.
Complex Carbs!!
These are the best sources of clean carbs to use when dieting in general, and when cycling carbs:
Baked Potatoes
Yams
Sweet Potatoes
Brown Rice
Oatmeal
Cream Of Wheat
Grits
I do not eat bread of any kind, or dairy products when dieting, and I recommend that you don't either, to help optimize fat burning. The only time to eat simple carbs other than vegetables is at the post-workout meal when you should take in 50 grams of dextrose with a whey protein shake immediately after training. You do add these carbs from dextrose into your daily total, because even though they are utilized efficiently by the body at the post-workout feeding, they are still carbs, and should count towards your total for the day.Don`t worry about the glycemic index of the foods ,but instead be more concerned with total carbs ingested for the day. It should never be too high!!
I also recommend HIIT cardio while dieting, and a high protein intake throughout the diet, as this will help to ensure that you retain the hard earned muscle that you've garnered from your training.
I hope this article helps you out in your quest for a better physique, and better health, via a lean muscular body.
GOOD LUCK AND TRAIN HARD!
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have you seen pictures of candidate? for all of his extreme dieting he is still skinny fat ::)
post a side chest shot, you fucking hating ass bitch.
i swear to god your the only guy that gets me fired up on this site...i really would fight you if you said anyof this shit in real life...
(yeah i know...MELTDOWN...i dont give a fuck..ill meltdown al over this fucking girl. hes a complete douchebag.)
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He can't eat that way forever.....he comes off, he rebounds......simple as that!
yes he CAN eat that way forever. thats a stupid thing to say... and he will NOT rebound, as long as he tapers back into a so-called "normal" diet. the body will adapt to it. anybody will gain fat with a huge and abrubt increase in daily calorie intake...no matter what their previous calorie intake was at.
be smart, stupid!
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I`ve dieted stricter than you many times......try tuna and water to get ripped.
ooooooh your fucking big and bad now!! hahaha. bro..i didntsay that was "the strictest" ive ever dieted. i said that that was what i thought was the best way to diet. tuna+water is NOT the best way to diet. and WHAT your eating is not the indicator of "strictness", its how consistant with what your eating that indicates strictness.
You can eat salmon,turkey,and even ground turkey to get leaner without any problems whatsoever.
salmon= too high calorie/fat content. turkey=estrogenic.
Broccoli can be replaced with any fibrous green vegetable.
yes, it can. but broccoli will yield the best result out of all of them. there is both real world experience, and science based logic behind that fact.
Cycling carbs is a really good option also.
true.. but for THE FASTEST weight loss possible..its not the BEST option. a carb cycling plan would be best for when he is tapering back into a higher carb diet. although i think he should taper back into a higher fat, moderate carb diet..but whatever..a caloric surplus is a caloric surplus.
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Keeping things simple and simply cutting calories is far easier than maintaining a chicken and veggies diet.. ::) Try candidate's shit and you're bound to get fucking sick of it and give up,
the fact that the person has absolutely no will power is beyond my control.
the fact is...my advice was perfect for the question asked.
the guy didnt ask for a "moderate diet that will yeild results but yet is still easy to sat on and allows for the occasional tasty food.". the guy said "fastest fat loss possible". AND I QUOTE.
stupid fucking BITCH!
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As for supps, what about a multi-vitamin when dieting? No way you get enough when you are dieting much less enough from regular diet alone.
I DIDNT MENTION A MULTI VITAMIN BECAUSE I FIGURED ANYONE IN THE SLIGHTEST SERIOUS ABOUT FITNESS OR NUTRITION WOULD ALREADY HAVE A SOLID MULTI-VITAMIN IN THEIR LIFE...REGARDLESS OF BULKING/CUTTING/MAINTAINING ECT
...fucking caps lock..
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i like this thread
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No it's not, he'll rebound. "clen, t3, and test?" sounds like the guy just wants to drop fat not get ready for a show and have a heart attack.
first of all. i didnt say it was necessary. i gave them as available options. which they are. and secondly... they will not give him a heart attack. dont say some ignorant shit like that...its dumb-ass comments like that that cause these products to be outlawed. they are perfectly safed when used responsibly and as prescribed.
ANY medication can be deadly when abused. too much WATER will kill you. ....come on man; your talking like a fucking douchebag= trying to contradict everything i say just for the sake of contradicting me.
if you wish to keep on getting owned..then please proceed. other wise, shut your fucking mouth; you over-the-hill southern california yuppy piece of shit.
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In order for a natural trying to lose as much bf as possible, what is the best routine? Say given 2 months time to follow it. As for a diet....???? "BB type diet", low carb, what? Your opinions
For the millionth time, you WILL NOT GET LEAN if you do not do cardio. Period. Not unless you have genetics that are ridiculous and are on a ton of stuff for metabolism. It will not happen. Keep training just as intensely with weights (even moreso if possible) and do at least 45 minutes of cardio 5 days per week (minimum) either first thing in the morning or several hours after you've had some carbs. If you are weight training, do all your weight training first then hit all cardio afterwards.
Anyone who tells you that you can be "ripped" without doing cardio is:
1. Delusional
2. Has never been ripped
3. Is all drugs
4. Believes the garbage they read in magazines
You have to work...hard. Period. There is no easy way out when it comes to getting lean.
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For the millionth time, you WILL NOT GET LEAN if you do not do cardio. Period.
thats definitely not true. eat to a caloric defecit, train hard, and focus on proteins; getting in just enough healty fat and fiberous carbs...you dont need cardio. where do you think the remainder of the daily caloric needs will come from? with proper protein intake, and with the essential fats in the diet...the caloric remainder will be suctioned from bodyfat stores.
now..thats being said, anyone at all serious about getting in-shap quickly would definitely be advised to do cardio.
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thats definitely not true. eat to a caloric defecit, train hard, and focus on proteins; getting in just enough healty fat and fiberous carbs...you dont need cardio. where do you think the remainder of the daily caloric needs will come from? with proper protein intake, and with the essential fats in the diet...the caloric remainder will be suctioned from bodyfat stores.
now..thats being said, anyone at all serious about getting in-shap quickly would definitely be advised to do cardio.
So you advice starvation to the point where one would enter a catabolic state/muscle wasting state rather than keeping calories high enough to maintain muscle mass while still steadily losing bodyfat?
Nice advice.... ::)
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yes he CAN eat that way forever. thats a stupid thing to say... and he will NOT rebound, as long as he tapers back into a so-called "normal" diet. the body will adapt to it. anybody will gain fat with a huge and abrubt increase in daily calorie intake...no matter what their previous calorie intake was at.
be smart, stupid!
Dude, you have so to learn it isn't even funny. Do you think that general (not bodybuilding) weight loss is all about just chicken and brocolli? It's a hell of a lot more than just macro control and FYI, it doesn't even have to be about macro control.
But who am I to talk......you're a whole 19 years old and you know everything ::)
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Dude, you have so to learn it isn't even funny. Do you think that general (not bodybuilding) weight loss is all about just chicken and brocolli? It's a hell of a lot more than just macro control and FYI, it doesn't even have to be about macro control.
But who am I to talk......you're a whole 19 years old and you know everything ::)
no no no...youve got it all wrong..im 18years old and i know everything.
if im so wrong..lets hear WHY i am so wrong...not just soem blanket generalization about me not knowing anything; yet not backing up that assertion with anything.
for SUSTAINABLE, FAST, FAT loss..my advice was the best way to go.
eat shit, guy.
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first of all. i didnt say it was necessary. i gave them as available options. which they are. and secondly... they will not give him a heart attack. dont say some ignorant shit like that...its dumb-ass comments like that that cause these products to be outlawed. they are perfectly safed when used responsibly and as prescribed.
if you wish to keep on getting owned..then please proceed. other wise, shut your fucking mouth; you over-the-hill southern california yuppy piece of shit.
1. How do you what will or could happen? Do you know his health history or his family history? Does cardiac disease run in his family? Is his cholesterol high? Does he or anyone in his family have high blood pressure or on meds for high blood pressure?
Did you know Clen in illegal?
See junour, before I start giving anyone advice (my clients) I make sure I have my ass covered. I get a 4 page health history and personal profile before I even touch them or give them any advise and if necessary, I make damn sure I get a Doctors release if needed. I carry $5mil in liability insurance "just in case".
I've said this before, I've been doing this shit even before your daddy was even a thought in HIS daddy's pants and that makes you still an underdeveloped sperm.
Anyone can lose weight, like Camel Jockey said "it isn't rocket science" burn more than you take in, but if you want to do it right, you need to have not only the right combination of macros, but micros as well. The diet you suggested to this guy would eventually take it's toll on him with the lack of nutrients necessary to sustain for a long period of time, stick with diet and he's in for some long term problems.
2. Your mom's calling, she's been asking you too rotate the tires on the house for a while now....she's pissed, now hop to it son!!
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HAHAHA...AND HE STILL DOESNT PROVIDE ANY ACTUALY REASONING BEHIND HIS DISSENT TO MY ADVICE!!
way to make yourself look like a schmoe, ...not that melting down and leaving getbig forever three times then coming back with a new screen name each time doesnt make you look schmoe enough already.
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HAHAHA...AND HE STILL DOESNT PROVIDE ANY ACTUALY REASONING BEHIND HIS DISSENT TO MY ADVICE!!
way to make yourself look like a schmoe, ...not that melting down and leaving getbig forever three times then coming back with a new screen name each time doesnt make you look schmoe enough already.
This didn't tell you anything? If not you're more naive' than EVERYONE already thought;
"but if you want to do it right, you need to have not only the right combination of macros, but micros as well. The diet you suggested to this guy would eventually take it's toll on him with the lack of nutrients necessary to sustain for a long period of time, stick with diet and he's in for some long term problems."
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whats cla? ??? :-[
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whats cla? ??? :-[
Huh? Where did you see that?
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lack of nutrients? borccoli+chicken+healthy fats...lack of nutrients?
youve got to be fucking kidding me. thats about as HEAlTHY as it gets, douchebag.
...everybody thinks just because our society is made up of a bunch of carb addicted panty waists that need to eat rice and bread to feel content; that carbs are part of a healthy diet....let me tell you something...there is no such ting as an ESSENTIAL carbohydrate. all you need is the vitamins/minerlas/fibers that veggies provide you with..other than that, the less carbs the better. where are you going to find a bowl of oatmeal in the wild? you wont. so dont eat it. broocoli, chicken, eggs, nuts..yeah, theyr all in the wild. eat them.
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whats cla? ??? :-[
conjugated liniolic acid..
its a healthy trans fat that when combined with a caloriec deficit is thought to actually kill fat cells...meaning that you wont simply re-gain all that weight youve lost(since weight loss without destruction of fat cells left behind is only weight loss...not an actual change in body chemistry. those extra fat cells will try as hard as they can to be filled back up)
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lack of nutrients? borccoli+chicken+healthy fats...lack of nutrients?
youve got to be fucking kidding me. thats about as HEAlTHY as it gets, douchebag.
...everybody thinks just because our society is made up of a bunch of carb addicted panty waists that need to eat rice and bread to feel content; that carbs are part of a healthy diet....let me tell you something...there is no such ting as an ESSENTIAL carbohydrate. all you need is the vitamins/minerlas/fibers that veggies provide you with..other than that, the less carbs the better. where are you going to find a bowl of oatmeal in the wild? you wont. so dont eat it. broocoli, chicken, eggs, nuts..yeah, theyr all in the wild. eat them.
You still don't get it?
Did I read that right.....In the freaking wild?
Dude, it's probably 3 hours difference between me and you, so I'm thinking it's 2am where you are at.....posting on GetBig.........more than likely doing another line or a hit of crack!
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conjugated liniolic acid..
its a healthy trans fat that when combined with a caloriec deficit is thought to actually kill fat cells...meaning that you wont simply re-gain all that weight youve lost(since weight loss without destruction of fat cells left behind is only weight loss...not an actual change in body chemistry. those extra fat cells will try as hard as they can to be filled back up)
It's "Linoleic" at least get that right ::)
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conjugated liniolic acid..
its a healthy trans fat that when combined with a caloriec deficit is thought to actually kill fat cells...meaning that you wont simply re-gain all that weight youve lost(since weight loss without destruction of fat cells left behind is only weight loss...not an actual change in body chemistry. those extra fat cells will try as hard as they can to be filled back up)
cool thanks
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Candidouchebag is so clueless lol.
Everyone, diet like Candildo, and you will also look like a 16 year old high school wrestler! HOORAY!
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I`m done !! ::)
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cut out the carbs. eat veggies. keep your fats to a minimal...supplement with omega 3's and some cla..eat one or two yolks in the morning. chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli chicken&broccoli and some more chicken&broccoli.
train with weights...make sure you train every muscle group over the course of the week. cardio twice a day for 45 mins.
eca + green tea + yohimbe 3 times a day..
put spices on every meal. (cayenne, red pepper, chili powder, black pepper, sodium based calorie free hot sauces..)
Typical cookie cutter approach that would lead to a VERY fast plateau and burnout.
I particularly love the NO carb approach from the get go ::)
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I don't like Brocolli. Does this mean im doomed for a life of poor health?
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I know Candi's diet is extreme with chicken and broccoli all day, but I do know some competitors that eat salmon and broccli SIX TIMES A DAY when they diet for a show. TRUE STORY!
And your point is???
HUGE DIFFERENCE B/T salmon and chicken
Wild Salmon is very calorie dense with Omega-3 fatty acids, loaded with healthy fats as well as rich in protein.
Chicken is high in protein and high in ... well protein.
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Lose weight over a longer period of time without cardio and a proper eating plan.Low calorie defecit.
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the fact that the person has absolutely no will power is beyond my control.
If you have such a great amount of will power, how did you get so fat in the first place? ::)
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For the millionth time, you WILL NOT GET LEAN if you do not do cardio. Period. Not unless you have genetics that are ridiculous and are on a ton of stuff for metabolism. It will not happen. Keep training just as intensely with weights (even moreso if possible) and do at least 45 minutes of cardio 5 days per week (minimum) either first thing in the morning or several hours after you've had some carbs. If you are weight training, do all your weight training first then hit all cardio afterwards.
Anyone who tells you that you can be "ripped" without doing cardio is:
1. Delusional
2. Has never been ripped
3. Is all drugs
4. Believes the garbage they read in magazines
You have to work...hard. Period. There is no easy way out when it comes to getting lean.
BULLSHIT
I havent done cardio in 6 months and was 5.5% BF during the summer and am 6.5%BF now.
Diet and weight training is most important. Someone can DEFINATELY get LEAN without aerobic training.
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BULLSHIT
I havent done cardio in 6 months and was 5.5% BF during the summer and am 6.5%BF now.
Diet and weight training is most important. Someone can DEFINATELY get LEAN without aerobic training.
Thats pretty low bf. What kind of lifestyle do you lead? Desk job? Construction? etc.
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BULLSHIT
I havent done cardio in 6 months and was 5.5% BF during the summer and am 6.5%BF now.
Diet and weight training is most important. Someone can DEFINATELY get LEAN without aerobic training.
Agree 100% Cardio is a tool not a neccessity
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Lose weight over a longer period of time without cardio and a proper eating plan.Low calorie defecit.
your advice is too complicated, lack drugs and the eating of non seasoned foods
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your advice is too complicated, lack drugs and the eating of non seasoned foods
Plenty of reefer and a calorie defecit diet over say 6 months will lose me 55 pounds while holding onto my muscle without cardio.
You guessed it i,m FAT 27%bf, my new years resolution.
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If the poster is genetically prone to fatness, only a strict diet will maintain him in a better shape, if he doesnt use any drugs , all he can do is a diet = control his nutrition but i guess people like you who are used to inject shit since decades dont even know what it means anymore.
i assume you re a longtime gear user, so why talk about losing weight with people who can only do it the natural way?
it makes no sense at all.
guy asked how to lose fat, he gave him a way to achieve his goal by folowing a strict and easy diet (and anyone with some brains understood he would have to do it for months )and never mentioned it had to be followed til his dying day, even if everyone know its how it works.
For a natural, staying in shape takes a lot of discipline and drive, its an everyday job, especially if your genetics are shit ; so the diet candizizle proposed is the realistic way to go.
The basics to lose weight and keep fatness low are; chicken /turkey and vegetables , water and physical activity, yes thats how it works in the "natural" world.
I will give you the benifit of the doubt seeing that you are new. Candi's advice is not sound, unrealistic and does not work in the real world. The diet he proposed will fail in 9/10 people.
As for decades of injecting shit, takes more than drugs to succeed in losing bodyfat. Natural or not, we all have to do the same things to lose bodyfat and is an everyday job for either..
1.) Reasonable, realistic Diet
2.) Cardio, Weights
3.) Rest, Repeat.
K.I.S.S- Keep it simple STUPID!
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Plenty of reefer and a calorie defecit diet over say 6 months will lose me 55 pounds while holding onto my muscle without cardio.
You guessed it i,m FAT 27%bf, my new years resolution.
Dude that aint gonna happen you know Mary, she always give you the munchiees :)
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Dude that aint gonna happen you know Mary, she always give you the munchiees :)
I,ll eat Rice Cakes ;D
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I will give you the benifit of the doubt seeing that you are new. Candi's advice is not sound, unrealistic and does not work in the real world. The diet he proposed will fail in 9/10 people.
As for decades of injecting shit, takes more than drugs to succeed in losing bodyfat. Natural or not, we all have to do the same things to lose bodyfat and is an everyday job for either..
1.) Reasonable, realistic Diet
2.) Cardio, Weights
3.) Rest, Repeat.
K.I.S.S- Keep it simple STUPID!
AGAIN.... the fact that most peopl have absolutely no self control and are complete wastes of a human being that canot control themselves and eat healthy DOES NOT negate the fact that my advice was the best for the question asked.
if you want to lose fat, you have to sacrifice...either you can sacrifice everyting and go at it 100% and lose the fat in (gg) amount of time..or you can sacrifice only a little bit and go at it with 50 %, and lose the fat in (gg)X2 amount of time.
its going to be the same amount of sacrifice whther you go full out or half-assed..because the half assed dieter will be dieting for twice as long. and also..a "moderate" diet is much "harder" to stay on than a completely strict diet...because psycholoically the "moderate" dieter gets daily reminders of what a "normal" diet tastes like...("what they are missing"), while the strict dieter has no reminder of what "normal" food tastes like...and will soon forget and be totally focused on succeeding, with no thought of failure in mind.
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AGAIN.... the fact that most peopl have absolutely no self control and are complete wastes of a human being that canot control themselves and eat healthy DOES NOT negate the fact that my advice was the best for the question asked.
if you want to lose fat, you have to sacrifice...either you can sacrifice everyting and go at it 100% and lose the fat in (gg) amount of time..or you can sacrifice only a little bit and go at it with 50 %, and lose the fat in (gg)X2 amount of time.
its going to be the same amount of sacrifice whther you go full out or half-assed..because the half assed dieter will be dieting for twice as long. and also..a "moderate" diet is much "harder" to stay on than a completely strict diet...because psycholoically the "moderate" dieter gets daily reminders of what a "normal" diet tastes like...("what they are missing"), while the strict dieter has no reminder of what "normal" food tastes like...and will soon forget and be totally focused on succeeding, with no thought of failure in mind.
didn't you confess to being so addicted to coke that you stole money from your mom and cashed company checks not belonging to you
and that doing coke first thing in the morning was your only reason for waking up..all of this while being 75lbs over weight..
::) ::) ::) "self control and dedication"
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didn't you confess to being so addicted to coke that you stole money from your mom and cashed company checks not belonging to you
and that doing coke first thing in the morning was your only reason for waking up..all of this while being 75lbs over weight..
::) ::) ::) "self control and dedication"
how does my past drug addiction at all relate to the discussion at hand? it does not. ...unless, of course, you are implying that all the fat people need is to go to "food rehab", and then they would be able to quit cold turkey and never look at junk fod again...then i would say; maybe, you have got something there.
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AGAIN.... the fact that most peopl have absolutely no self control and are complete wastes of a human being that canot control themselves and eat healthy DOES NOT negate the fact that my advice was the best for the question asked.
if you want to lose fat, you have to sacrifice...either you can sacrifice everyting and go at it 100% and lose the fat in (gg) amount of time..or you can sacrifice only a little bit and go at it with 50 %, and lose the fat in (gg)X2 amount of time.
its going to be the same amount of sacrifice whther you go full out or half-assed..because the half assed dieter will be dieting for twice as long. and also..a "moderate" diet is much "harder" to stay on than a completely strict diet...because psycholoically the "moderate" dieter gets daily reminders of what a "normal" diet tastes like...("what they are missing"), while the strict dieter has no reminder of what "normal" food tastes like...and will soon forget and be totally focused on succeeding, with no thought of failure in mind.
You are 18 yrs. old with no real world experience. Please stop making yourself look stupid, no one here believes one word you say because most of us have been doing this for a long time.
Go to school, get your degree and then post on proper dieting. Then, train for 18 years and come talk to me? Got it?? You have no grasp on organic chemistry and how the body really works.
People have plenty of self control, you are unrealistic. Try doing some nutrition consulting and see how long someone stays on your diet. Eating chicken and broccoli six times a day is STUPID and unnecessary.
PS- learn to use Spell Check please
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You are 18 yrs. old with no real world experience. Please stop making yourself look stupid, no one here believes one word you say because most of us have been doing this for a long time.
Go to school, get your degree and then post on proper dieting. Then, train for 18 years and come talk to me? Got it?? You have no grasp on organic chemistry and how the body really works.
People have plenty of self control, you are unrealistic. Try doing some nutrition consulting and see how long someone stays on your diet. Eating chicken and broccoli six times a day is STUPID and unnecessary.
PS- learn to use Spell Check please
I have asked him many time to post pics of the body that following his own advice has given him...he hasn't and won't
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You are 18 yrs. old with no real world experience. Please stop making yourself look stupid, no one here believes one word you say because most of us have been doing this for a long time.
Go to school, get your degree and then post on proper dieting. Then, train for 18 years and come talk to me? Got it?? You have no grasp on organic chemistry and how the body really works.
People have plenty of self control, you are unrealistic. Try doing some nutrition consulting and see how long someone stays on your diet. Eating chicken and broccoli six times a day is STUPID and unnecessary.
PS- learn to use Spell Check please
blah blah blah...you know what i hear ?
"i am old! no one that is not old canot know something that someone who is old knows! i fear youth, i fear change, i fear knowledge that contradicts what i have always thought!! i am old! you are young!!"
^^^^thats what i hear.
somebody needs to check the date on your label...cuz i think you just EXPIRED!!! ahahaha ;D
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blah blah blah...you know what i hear ?
"i am old! no one that is not old canot know something that someone who is old knows! i fear youth, i fear change, i fear knowledge that contradicts what i have always thought!! i am old! you are young!!"
^^^^thats what i hear.
somebody needs to check the date on your label...cuz i think you just EXPIRED!!! ahahaha ;D
You know what you little fuck, you are a true spoiled brat.
You know what I hear, you do not know what the fuck you are talking about and are tying to fit in so badly that you are making yourself look like an idiot. I have been nicely trying to make you understand, but there is no use, you are a tool!!
Age has nothing to do with knowledge. I would give you props if you deserved it but you are confused and need guidance. I know lots of young people and do not fear anyone. I actually have two employees that are 19 and know WAYYYY more than you do at this point about nutrition and training. Come out here and I will give you a lesson as well.
I hope you parents got you for Christmas a gift certificate to a shrink you whack job.
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If you eat six meals of chicken, this is what happens to you! You turn into one :)
(http://students.stritch.edu/cl2patterson/chicken.jpg)
In all seriousness, if someone owned a personal training business and told their clients to eat 6 meals of chicken a day, most of the people would either: A) fail at the diet or B) quit and go to another personal training business.
As stated before, I am not a nutritional guru, but I am sure you can lose weight just as fast eating a variety of foods and not just chicken!
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I have asked him many time to post pics of the body that following his own advice has given him...he hasn't and won't
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Thats pretty low bf. What kind of lifestyle do you lead? Desk job? Construction? etc.
PM me bro
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I know that he doesn't look like that now, but you wouldn't think that someone that eats chicken breast and brocolli 6 times per day that he would be shredded and be able to post a pic show a practical application of his "theories"
yet, he can't
I am 35, balding, eats McDonalds as often as I can..stop taking all supplements 3 months, drink a bottle of baileys irish creme every couple of days and still don't look as fat as he does.
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I know that he doesn't look like that now, but you wouldn't think that someone that eats chicken breast and brocolli 6 times per day that he would be shredded and be able to post a pic show a practical application of his "theories"
yet, he can't
I am 35, balding, eats McDonalds as often as I can..stop taking all supplements 3 months, drink a bottle of baileys irish creme every couple of days and still don't look as fat as he does.
He has lost the weight and there are some shots of him doing a "sunken" side chest.
I give him props for losing the bodyfat, but not for the advice that he is giving.
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He has lost the weight and there are some shots of him doing a "sunken" side chest.
I give him props for losing the bodyfat, but not for the advice that he is giving.
here is the little shit stain!!!
his current pics look like crap..
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And the famous sunken side chest!
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He has lost the weight and there are some shots of him doing a "sunken" side chest.
I give him props for losing the bodyfat, but not for the advice that he is giving.
Don't get me wrong, i give him props too for the weight loss, but then again i don't have lots of respect towards him after the attitude his having here. I mean, his yelling "i can't understand people who don't have any will power", when if somebody, HE (as the picture shows) should know what it's like ::)
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For the millionth time, you WILL NOT GET LEAN if you do not do cardio. Period. Not unless you have genetics that are ridiculous and are on a ton of stuff for metabolism. It will not happen. Keep training just as intensely with weights (even moreso if possible) and do at least 45 minutes of cardio 5 days per week (minimum) either first thing in the morning or several hours after you've had some carbs. If you are weight training, do all your weight training first then hit all cardio afterwards.
Anyone who tells you that you can be "ripped" without doing cardio is:
1. Delusional
2. Has never been ripped
3. Is all drugs
4. Believes the garbage they read in magazines
You have to work...hard. Period. There is no easy way out when it comes to getting lean.
That's bullshit, cardio is basically just a tool to increase deficit. And little is gained by doing cardio in a fasted state.
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i know what the fuck im talking about...im the only person here who has dieted like i have.
lol.
yup, there are no competitive bodybuilders on this site, just sknny/ fat kids like yourself who think they know everything, when the reality of it is they know nothing.
here's a question since you know so much, candizzle-
why do you still look like a bag of shit?
keep doing what you are doing, and sharing with everyone your expert advise.
we all need a good laugh once in a while.
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BULLSHIT
I havent done cardio in 6 months and was 5.5% BF during the summer and am 6.5%BF now.
Diet and weight training is most important. Someone can DEFINATELY get LEAN without aerobic training.
I will bet you $1,000 right now that you can not take a picture of yourself today with your bodyfat at 6.5%, measursed using water displacement. I am one of VERY few posters on this board that STAYS under 8% all year. The ONLY way you are at 6.5% never doing cardio is is you weigh about 140-155 pounds. Of course, you and I both know you aren't that lean (very few on here talk the talk and walk the walk).
Don't call "bullshit" on someone who truely lives the lifestyle 24/7/365. If you haven't done cardio in 6 months you: 1. Don't care about your overall health, 2. Aren't at 6.5% bodyfat, not if you have ANY appreciable muscle mass. Of course, you may take a ton of gear for metabolism or are just a string bean, but either way, you aren't that lean at over 200 pounds and under 6 feet tall with no cardio. Very few people stay that way all the time, especially someone not dedicated enough to do cardio year round.
More or less, in a round about way, you aren't me.
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here is the little shit stain!!!
his current pics look like crap..
that was over a year ago..
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That's bullshit, cardio is basically just a tool to increase deficit. And little is gained by doing cardio in a fasted state.
i disagree. in my opinion doing low intensity cardio first thing upon waking up in a fasted state will cause you to directly burn fat stores inside your body, as opposed to doing cardio after a meal full of carbs, in which case you will burn the carbs you just ate instead of body fat stores.
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post a side chest shot, you fucking hating ass bitch.
i swear to god your the only guy that gets me fired up on this site...i really would fight you if you said anyof this shit in real life...
(yeah i know...MELTDOWN...i dont give a fuck..ill meltdown al over this fucking ####. hes a complete douchebag.)
u look very very good...keep going
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I will bet you $1,000 right now that you can not take a picture of yourself today with your bodyfat at 6.5%, measursed using water displacement. I am one of VERY few posters on this board that STAYS under 8% all year. The ONLY way you are at 6.5% never doing cardio is is you weigh about 140-155 pounds. Of course, you and I both know you aren't that lean (very few on here talk the talk and walk the walk).
Don't call "bullshit" on someone who truely lives the lifestyle 24/7/365. If you haven't done cardio in 6 months you: 1. Don't care about your overall health, 2. Aren't at 6.5% bodyfat, not if you have ANY appreciable muscle mass. Of course, you may take a ton of gear for metabolism or are just a string bean, but either way, you aren't that lean at over 200 pounds and under 6 feet tall with no cardio. Very few people stay that way all the time, especially someone not dedicated enough to do cardio year round.
More or less, in a round about way, you aren't me.
Hi Adoins :D
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Hi Adoins :D
LMAO!
I sure as heck ain't Adonis, and I sure as hell pegged to to a HILT in my post.
Does the truth hurt that badly?
I LIVE the LIFESTYLE, 24/7/365. People like you talking about bodyfat levels of 6.5% "off season" are so full of shit it's oozing out of their ears.
You could make it a WEEK in my shoes, Devon. If you had to eat what I do, train like I do and make a living at the same time..you'd be toast in under a week.
You should respect those who you envy, Devon.
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LMAO!
I sure as heck ain't Adonis, and I sure as hell pegged to to a HILT in my post.
Does the truth hurt that badly?
I LIVE the LIFESTYLE, 24/7/365. People like you talking about bodyfat levels of 6.5% "off season" are so full of shit it's oozing out of their ears.
You could make it a WEEK in my shoes, Devon. If you had to eat what I do, train like I do and make a living at the same time..you'd be toast in under a week.
You should respect those who you envy, Devon.
Well I do use 9pt caliper test not water displacement. I was 5.5% all summer and tested last month and am 6.5% and I have gained about 4 lbs.
I eat VERY clean and alot of clean food. My grocery bill is over $650 per month. Been drug free for 4 years. I spend over $200 month on supps. ( fish oil- Nordic brand, Multi species protein powder, Whey, Glut-peptides, ground flax seeds, ZMA)
And honestly I am predisposed to being lean.
If you have any more questions specifically on how I stay so lean then PM me as I walk the walk my friend.
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u look very very good...keep going
thanks sevastase...your a cool cat; no matter what everybody else on this site says. i am pretty sure they are just jealous at the confidence of your self-assured european type of attitude.
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thanks sevastase...your a cool cat; no matter what everybody else on this site says. i am pretty sure they are just jealous at the confidence of your self-assured european type of attitude.
yep, that must be it...we are all jealous of him ::)
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thanks sevastase...your a cool cat; no matter what everybody else on this site says. i am pretty sure they are just jealous at the confidence of your self-assured european type of attitude.
Hey, I'm not knocking the way you look, you obviously came a long way losing all that weight and overcoming a cocaine addiction is a great accomplishment at your age (unless thats what you used to lose the weight :-X). All I'm saying is you don't know WTF you're talking about!!
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Hey, I'm not knocking the way you look, you obviously came a long way losing all that weight and overcoming a cocaine addiction is a great accomplishment at your age (unless thats what you used to lose the weight :-X). All I'm saying is you don't know WTF you're talking about!!
all im saying is that i DO know what im talking about...and that my advice was SOLID. i never claimd that my advice was 'easy to follow" or "a moderate, mainstream acceptable diet"...i only offered that it was the best and quickest way to fat loss while keeping muscle. which it is. i could give a fuck less whether or not the guy has the will power to stay on it...i have no future vested in his success.
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all im saying is that i DO know what im talking about...and that my advice was SOLID. i never claimd that my advice was 'easy to follow" or "a moderate, mainstream acceptable diet"...i only offered that it was the best and quickest way to fat loss while keeping muscle. which it is. i could give a fuck less whether or not the guy has the will power to stay on it...i have no future vested in his success.
have you /do you have the will power to apply your own "theories"?
why not show us the results..I am sure that you have practically applied your ideas haven't you?