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Hello Kitty AR-15 - evil black rifle meets cute and cuddly
So called "Assault Weapons Bans" such as the now expired 1994 Clinton ban and the one still in place in states such as California seek to ban rifles that our misguided legislators feel have no purpose in civilian hands. They identify "evil features" they can use to generically classify these "military style" weapons in sweeping terms. Of course these features, such as plastic pistol grips, barrel shrouds, and bayonet lugs have absolutely nothing to do with the firearms potential lethality in the real world and are merely cosmetic features. After all, it really doesn't matter what color the firearm is if it fires the same ammunition right? Well, in the "spirit" of the California Assault Weapon Ban I decided to do my best to alleviate the fears of my fellow citizens and gun-banning legislators when I put together a new AR-15 for my wife. Below is the result of my painstaking work to transform an Evil Black Rifle (EBR) into a Cute Pink RIfle (CPR). Introducing the Hello Kitty AR-15!
(http://www.riflegear.com/blogimages/KittyRifle.jpg)
This rifle is 100% legal in California because it is based on an "off-list" lower receiver made by Stag Arms and has no evil features at all, instead featuring a fixed stock instead of the evil collapsible stock, a muzzle brake in place of the vile flash-hider, and a MonsterMan Grip instead of the heinous and malicious plastic pistol grip. The C Products magazine looks like a 30 round magazine body but is permanently modified to only allow 10 rounds.
I have to give props to my friend Drew at Armory Airbrush who painted the parts for me and did a great job on the graphics. Check him out at http://www.armoryairbrush.com/
It has come to my attention that a lot of people think this rifle is merely a photoshop job. To convince the doubters here is a picture of the painted parts prior to assembly.
(http://www.riflegear.com/blogimages/HelloKittyParts.jpg)
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Do they have hellokitty m11911s?
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I wouldn't like to carry a pink glock. But I'd be open to other colors.
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I wouldn't like to carry a pink glock. But I'd be open to other colors.
My cousin is in the NYPD and he told me about olive and nickled colored glocks.. Says he saw one in olive and I guess that meant green?
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My cousin is in the NYPD and he told me about olive and nickled colored glocks.. Says he saw one in olive and I guess that meant green?
yeah, my brother had a glock 21 that had an aerotek finish - like a silver. not chrome, but this grayed silver. Looked cool as hell.
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yeah, my brother had a glock 21 that had an aerotek finish - like a silver. not chrome, but this grayed silver. Looked cool as hell.
Tis impossible to get a carrying permit here in this shitty state. >:(
Still have a folding knife though. ;D
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How much can you buy one of those for?
AR15 will run you 800 to 1200, depending on specs.
most glocks are 500 to 600.
Customizing it like that often costs more than the gun itself.
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Tis impossible to get a carrying permit here in this shitty state. >:(
Still have a folding knife though. ;D
Florida's permits work in 18 other states now, I think. Georgia, Ohio, and others. It's cool when states recognize each other's like that.
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Florida's permits work in 18 other states now, I think. Georgia, Ohio, and others. It's cool when states recognize each other's like that.
You are hardly in danger in Florida. ::)
Totally different in NYC though.. I mean I'm always carrying my blade and it's helped me out in some situations where it could have gotten ugly. Like these two black kids pissed me off in the subway and I told them to fuck off, and then they started coming towards me(pretty big fellas), they were close and then I drew the knife still folded they kinda knew and backed off.. Another time I pulled it out directly at a crazy druken bum.. Gang of highschool kids asked me to buy them drink in Hollis.. Naturally, I said no and told them to fuck off. They tried to circle me and I drew and charged at one black and they all fucking scattered.
Weapons cannot be disgarded even for a second.
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You are hardly in danger in Florida. ::)
Totally different in NYC though.. I mean I'm always carrying my blade and it's helped me out in some situations where it could have gotten ugly. Like these two black kids pissed me off in the subway and I told them to fuck off, and then they started coming towards me(pretty big fellas), they were close and then I drew the knife still folded they kinda knew and backed off.. Another time I pulled it out directly at a crazy druken bum.. Gang of highschool kids asked me to buy them drink in Hollis.. Naturally, I said no and told them to fuck off. They tried to circle me and I drew and charged at one black and they all fucking scattered.
Weapons cannot be disgarded even for a second.
Knives can be effective weapons, assuming the other guy doesn't have a gun, and that you're young and in shape.
I wonder how the state of NY expects the elderly to protect themselves?
Thank god I live in a sane part of the world where I can legally own and carry a firearm.
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You are hardly in danger in Florida. ::)
The 4 kids that killed NFL star Sean Taylor hailed from my hometown of Ft Myers.
Rent is down bigtime, and scumbags are moving in as a result. Home invasions, random shootings, and other crimes are happening a lot lately.
Florida isn't the ghetto, but it isn't all that safe either.
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Knives can be effective weapons, assuming the other guy doesn't have a gun, and that you're young and in shape.
I wonder how the state of NY expects the elderly to protect themselves?
Thank god I live in a sane part of the world where I can legally own and carry a firearm.
They fucking don't and the animals get away with it. Police are 30 minutes late and if you do act in self defense you'll be the bad guy. I recall the situation with the kids asking me to buy them liquor getting almost out of hand because it looked as though they really were going to attack me, but it didn't happen thanks to a folding knife that's almost become a part of my right arm.
I know several store clerks around my area that have been robbed, and sometimes even assulted for no apparent reason. Leave it to the NYPD they say.. But had these people acted with some kind of weapon then they might've not been violated.
Many times it's just how you act.. Some bum came inside a pizza shop and the counter guy told her to leave.. She started swinging her arms drunkenly and started threatening everyone until I told her to fuck off with the n word. She went crazy and then I cooly just grabbed her shirt collar and shook her several times and told her to get the fuck out or I'd shank her to death. She left. ;D
240, NY has many micro situations with a lot of trouble. Hell, ask KH. Florida's incidents are mainly isolated. Huge difference.
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Love the sticker on the buttstock.... ;D
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Leave it to the NYPD they say..
Liberals and other stupid people often make this mistake. The problem is these people clearly misunderstand the purpose and capabilities of a police force. The job of the police is to investigate crime and arrest the offenders, not to prevent crime on an individual basis. They are not a private security company or a protection detail. Ask any cop and he will readily agree with this. Yet I can't understand how this fundamental misunderstanding came to exist in the heads of at least half of the american public?
To those that would tell me to leave my personal protection and the protection of my family to the police, I would say fine, I'd be happy to just as soon as the "police" are willing and able to provide me with a 24-hour armed officer tasked exclusively to my personal protection. Until they can do that, don't even think of asking me to give up my gun, 'cause it ain't gonna happen. >:(
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Liberals and other stupid people often make this mistake. The problem is these people clearly misunderstand the purpose and capabilities of a police force. The job of the police is to investigate crime and arrest the offenders, not to prevent crime on an individual basis. They are not a private security company or a protection detail. Ask any cop and he will readily agree with this. Yet I can't understand how this fundamental misunderstanding came to exist in the heads of at least half of the american public?
To those that would tell me to leave my personal protection and the protection of my family to the police, I would say fine, I'd be happy to just as soon as the "police" are willing and able to provide me with a 24-hour armed officer tasked exclusively to my personal protection. Until they can do that, don't even think of asking me to give up my gun, 'cause it ain't gonna happen. >:(
RIght on man! Its the American fantasy... A safe world.
You know how many them poor fucks called 911 on the cell in the Hi-Jacked death Planes? Plenty Im sure,,,, A Fuckin laptop computer to the head of the 'Jackers
wuz waht should of been done... Stay calm and wait for the police dont apply most of the time.
A nation of victims has been bred.
Warm up HelloKitty there till the paint peels........ ;D
Love it when a gas tube melts..... 8)
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To those that would tell me to leave my personal protection and the protection of my family to the police, I would say fine, I'd be happy to just as soon as the "police" are willing and able to provide me with a 24-hour armed officer tasked exclusively to my personal protection. Until they can do that, don't even think of asking me to give up my gun, 'cause it ain't gonna happen. >:(
You got that right.
National police response time is 11 minutes.
I used to be anti-gun until I was 20. My brother showed me enough instances of "My gun saved the day" from gun magazines to convert me. I used to say "guns are for pussies".
Ten years later, my brother shot an armed robber, part of two who planned to rob his pharmacy and kill him and the other guy working. Without carry permits, my brother would be dead. ALl those years of him showing me those stories of an armed citizen preventing a crime and sure enough, it happened to him.
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CJ, I agree NY has it way worse than here.
I can't believe so many NYers are anti-gun. Living in shit like that, the rednecks down here would vote the liberals out and get some good ol' boys in office.
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CJ, I agree NY has it way worse than here.
I can't believe so many NYers are anti-gun. Living in shit like that, the rednecks down here would vote the liberals out and get some good ol' boys in office.
They (dumb-ass liberals) see all the gun violence, and think "guns=bad... let's make them illegal". What they don't understand is that by doing so they're making the situation worse, not better. What they seem to miss is that those committing the gun violence are criminals. Gun laws don't effect them, because they don't care about laws to begin with. All gun laws do is take guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens... the criminals get to keep theirs. ::)
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CJ, I agree NY has it way worse than here.
I can't believe so many NYers are anti-gun. Living in shit like that, the rednecks down here would vote the liberals out and get some good ol' boys in office.
Well, it's to do with people Al Sharpton and his lapdogs Hillary and Chuck Kikemer.
Police force good enough, although they have hardly any authority on matters and are more concerned with ticket quotas.
Couple months ago some dominican store owner with like several kids was shot to death, and he did have a .38 on him; just couldn't draw quick enough to defend himself.. I read an article where they must've pointed out the unregistered .38 like atleast 10 times. I mean it was all caught on tape and and .38 had nothing to do with it.. And they whine about that.. A store owner who merely sought to keep his hard earned money from being jacked and was murdered with kids left behind, and all the yuppies and black appologists can do is talk about his unregistered .38.
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glad I live in Texas
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LOL@ Camel Jockey, brutal tough guy stories. ;D
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LOL@ Camel Jockey, brutal tough guy stories. ;D
Real stories that aren't anything to laugh at.
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/mtg1337/IMG_1000.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/mtg1337/IMG_1014.jpg)
I am as fond of it as perhaps anything. It has saved my life, and though it cannot equal the power of a firearm, it has prevented a lot of violence coming my way.
Call it fables, tough guy stories, but that doesn't change what this piece has done for me. It is an extention of my right arm.
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I love that gun, do they have an It's Happy Bunny one?
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Who has the classic 240 Glock picture?
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Weapon are essential.
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/mtg1337/IMG_1015.jpg)
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Real stories that aren't anything to laugh at.
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/mtg1337/IMG_1000.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/mtg1337/IMG_1014.jpg)
I am as fond of it as perhaps anything. It has saved my life, and though it cannot equal the power of a firearm, it has prevented a lot of violence coming my way.
Call it fables, tough guy stories, but that doesn't change what this piece has done for me. It is an extention of my right arm.
hahahaha Oh shit, maybe that's "hard" where you're from, but uh, no.
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hahahaha Oh shit, maybe that's "hard" where you're from, but uh, no.
Hard? I'm a felon for that shit.
But I need it to deter attacks and defuse situations, then hell yeah I'm gonna carry.
You kinda missed the whole point. ;D
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Hard? I'm a felon for that shit.
But I need it to deter attacks and defuse situations, then hell yeah I'm gonna carry.
You kinda missed the whole point. ;D
What do you mean , "I'm a felon for that shit"?
Does that mean carrying that toothpicker is a felony where you are from?
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We need JAMIEX4200 back
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What do you mean , "I'm a felon for that shit"?
Does that mean carrying that toothpicker is a felony where you are from?
Folding knives are illegal in NYS. I'm a criminal(if caught) for carrying a little utility knife.
But all shit aside, it has gotten me out of a lot of trouble.
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Folding knives are illegal in NYS.
You're joking right? :-\
F'ing sad.
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You're joking right? :-\
F'ing sad.
I'm not and it is sad.
A carrying permit is a pain in the balls.
A regular permit is like $250 and background check. You have to carry seperate and unloaded.. :-\
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I'm not and it is sad.
A carrying permit is a pain in the balls.
A regular permit is like $250 and background check. You have to carry seperate and unloaded.. :-\
I live in Massachusetts and its next to impossible to get your LTC , when I renewed mine they now give you a pin number which you must enter when buying any ammo or new firearms as well as your thumb print they like to keep tabs on you lol
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My cousin is in the NYPD and he told me about olive and nickled colored glocks.. Says he saw one in olive and I guess that meant green?
the actual color is o.d. green i have a couple of two toned glocks(21,23).
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Florida's permits work in 18 other states now, I think. Georgia, Ohio, and others. It's cool when states recognize each other's like that.
i carry a gun all the time with no permit,i am straight outlaw bitch ;D
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i carry a gun all the time with no permit,i am straight outlaw bitch ;D
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My niece's boyfriend did to and he got pulled over for a traffic violation and had to serve 18 months mandatory lol
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i carry a gun all the time with no permit,i am straight outlaw bitch ;D
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What a rebel, you must live on the edge with butterflies in your stomach at all times.
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My niece's boyfriend did to and he got pulled over for a traffic violation and had to serve 18 months mandatory lol
i am kinda diffrent since i have a badge to go with it ;)
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i carry a gun all the time with no permit,i am straight outlaw bitch ;D
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lol... in FLa you can have it in your glovebox or otherwise securely encased in your vehicle. You can carry openly at your job if you own the business. You can do a lot of common sense things that other states don't let you.
I could never move to a place where you cannot carry. I've carried for 11 years now. It's part of my daily dress. It's a tool like your car keys or cell phone. It's automatic. Nobody ever sees it, as that would be a felony for brandishing. It's a common sense tool for a very unpredictable world.
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i am kinda diffrent since i have a badge to go with it ;)
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Cheater. >:(
I had a badge too, until some "real" cop took it. ::)
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i carry a gun all the time with no permit,i am straight outlaw bitch ;D
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yeah but you're a cop!! cops don't arrest other cops. Too bad I'm a felon cause I would join the police force just so I could tase people.
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Cheater. >:(
I had a badge too, until some "real" cop took it. ::)
give me your address,i will send it back to you ;D
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yeah but you're a cop!! cops don't arrest other cops. Too bad I'm a felon cause I would join the police force just so I could tase people.
i have arrested other officers before.
and i dont carry a taser.
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Cheater. >:(
I had a badge too, until some "real" cop took it. ::)
I'd like an M11911 .45 ACP nickled plated custom with a rosewood handle..
I mean even my uncles spoke highly of the colt 45. It is the benchmark AROUND THE FUCKING WORLD and fuck plastic shit like glocks. Althought the 21 .45 is mighty nice.
I'm thinking I should stfu from now on.
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give me your address,
Ummmm, I know you would only need to get within a coulpe of miles, so no. ;)
i will send it back to you ;D
Go ahead and keep it, I have one that says "FBI" now. ;D
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;D
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http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2007/01/ces_2007_the_al.html
Tasers come in pink now too...
WHat next Pink S&W .44 ?
THey need some sales bad.
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http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2007/01/ces_2007_the_al.html
Tasers come in pink now too...
WHat next Pink S&W .44 ?
THey need some sales bad.
Female defense is a huge market, what is wrong with that?
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Female defense is a huge market, what is wrong with that?
Nuthin' a 4" pink .357 Get Big commemorative model should be made.
Squadfatter would like one... ;D
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Female defense is a huge market, what is wrong with that?
your not lying,i pulled a little old lady over the other day for speeding and she handed me her concealed handgun license(law in texas),i asked her what she carried and she proceeded to show me the first and only H&K USP 45 socom(same gun i carry)but with pearl colored slip on grips and her name laser engraved on the side with letters that took up the whole slide in pink.i just laughed and let her go,didnt even check her drivers license.
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240,
WOuld it ever be possible to obtain one of these legally?
(http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/images/loaded-desert-eagle-web.jpg)
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http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/small_arms/galil/Galil.html
How about sum Pink Galils?
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your not lying,i pulled a little old lady over the other day for speeding and she handed me her concealed handgun license(law in texas),i asked her what she carried and she proceeded to show me the first and only H&K USP 45 socom(same gun i carry)but with pearl colored slip on grips and her name laser engraved on the side with letters that took up the whole slide in pink.i just laughed and let her go,didnt even check her drivers license.
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Sweet, did you get her #? ;D
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240,
WOuld it ever be possible to obtain one of these legally?
(http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/images/loaded-desert-eagle-web.jpg)
i have a desert eagle just like that,but without the flashlight or hollowsight.
as long as you have no felonys,you are 21 or older.you should be good.
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Sweet, did you get her #? ;D
she was around 80 years old..................... yes ;D
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i have a desert eagle just like that,but without the flashlight or hollowsight.
as long as you have no felonys,you are 21 or older.you should be good.
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Can you find one at a gun show?
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she was around 80 years old..................... yes ;D
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haha ;D
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Can you find one at a gun show?
sure,but be prepared to spend $1200-$3500 and get it in 44 magnum dont get it in 50cal.you will have a hard time finding bullets for the50cal.
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sure,but be prepared to spend $1200-$3500 and get it in 44 magnum dont get it in 50cal.you will have a hard time finding bullets for the50cal.
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I take it your not concerned w/ the average private citizen owning guns..?
We hear a lot of the BS about cops against guns... Maybe in NYC... I live in the corn field...
Everyone here by me owns guns... I cant recall a real gun crime ever making the news in my small town.
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We hear a lot of the BS about cops against guns... Maybe in NYC...
The only reason NYC cops are opposed to private citizens having guns is because it doesn't apply to them. If they were required to leave their own guns at the police station before they punched out and went home they'd change their tune real quick. It's hypocrisy at its finest!
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sure,but be prepared to spend $1200-$3500 and get it in 44 magnum dont get it in 50cal.you will have a hard time finding bullets for the50cal.
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Seriously, why does anyone think they need a .44 or .50? A 10mm or .40 S&W is the most you'll ever need unless you're planning on hunting elephants or something. ::)
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Seriously, why does anyone think they need a .44 or .50? A 10mm or .40 S&W is the most you'll ever need unless you're planning on hunting elephants or something. ::)
My S&W .357 throws a 3 foot flame.......it's awesome.
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Seriously, why does anyone think they need a .44 or .50? A 10mm or .40 S&W is the most you'll ever need unless you're planning on hunting elephants or something. ::)
While on the topic lol
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Seriously, why does anyone think they need a .44 or .50? A 10mm or .40 S&W is the most you'll ever need unless you're planning on hunting elephants or something. ::)
They are simply fun to shoot! ;)
And I wouldn't even consider it adequate for Brown or Griz bear, much less Elephant.
Its a good deer handgun (.44) Actually, its about the legal minimum (Handguns) in my state for deer hunting.
You dont shoot long guns?
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.45 acp is best..
My brother had an HK one and it was teh awesome.
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Seriously, why does anyone think they need a .44 or .50? A 10mm or .40 S&W is the most you'll ever need unless you're planning on hunting elephants or something. ::)
because the desert eagle comes in three calibers 357,44,50ea.if you get the 44 or the 50,all you have to do is swap out the barrel even the mags are interchangeable.
and you don't buy a desert eagle for practicality,you buy it because it looks cool as shit ;)
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.45 acp is best..
My brother had an HK one and it was teh awesome.
my same opinion.
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.45 acp is best..
My brother had an HK one and it was teh awesome.
The Rolls Royce of M1911s
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A better pic
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I can't carry a gun or knife legally in my country, but i'm interested in them - not in a disturbing kind of way but because they are a vector of power and force, my dad used to carry a Glock 17 and let me tell u that was a big fucking pistol, probably not really the type for self defense or concealment for that single reason but it was cool nonetheless - and im sure you've all seen the durability tests of those guns.. nothing like em.
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I'm pissed that CA has the assault rifle ban. I had a sweet deal lined up for an M4 and that got screwed. Shit. If I am at home and want to draw down on an asshole and put a few .223 rounds in him, why not? What's the difference between that and a .45 round from a Glock?
Edged weapons training is very useful. Right on with the knives guys. Remember the hypothetical best places to stab. ;D
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o thats the cutest thing ever.... it matches my slippers!
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Edged weapons training is very useful. Right on with the knives guys. Remember the hypothetical best places to stab. ;D
when we were trained in knife fighting, they told us straight off:
"if you get into a knife fight, accept the fact that you'll probably get cut. do that and you'll be good to go"
seemed fair
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Living in fear of your neighbors is no way to go through life. I am not anti gun but I cannot see going through life carring a gun 'just in case'. And I think hunters are cowardly and delusional.
If some of you live in bad area, there are many other things you can do to improve it than to carry a gun. Carrying a gun seems like a last resort to me.
BTW, New York City has been Republican now for that last 15 years, it is not a 'liberal' city. We are just educated.
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Living in fear of your neighbors is no way to go through life. I am not anti gun but I cannot see going through life carring a gun 'just in case'. And I think hunters are cowardly and delusional.
If some of you live in bad area, there are many other things you can do to improve it than to carry a gun. Carrying a gun seems like a last resort to me.
BTW, New York City has been Republican now for that last 15 years, it is not a 'liberal' city. We are just educated.
If you are "educated" why do you stick your weiner in other mens asses knowing the diseases you can catch?
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If you are "educated" why do you stick your weiner in other mens asses knowing the diseases you can catch?
you can't get AIDS twice, chaos
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when we were trained in knife fighting, they told us straight off:
"if you get into a knife fight, accept the fact that you'll probably get cut. do that and you'll be good to go"
seemed fair
As long as you don't get stabbed in four places you are pretty likely to live so nothing to worry about.
NYC, that's just life. It's not so much neighbors as elsewhere, at least with a pistol. With my M4, I just want to shoot better with it. NYC, LA, and other major cities need this law so if someone attacks you, you can shoot them in center mass and walk away while they are driven away.
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you can't get AIDS twice, chaos
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LOL ;D
I guess I learned something new today. ;D
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Living in fear of your neighbors is no way to go through life. I am not anti gun but I cannot see going through life carring a gun 'just in case'. And I think hunters are cowardly and delusional.
If some of you live in bad area, there are many other things you can do to improve it than to carry a gun. Carrying a gun seems like a last resort to me.
BTW, New York City has been Republican now for that last 15 years, it is not a 'liberal' city. We are just educated.
Buy a gun and shut up, or move to where you can... If I kill the food I eat thats cowardly?
Cowardly is buying it wrapped up in plastic and Styrofoam and having someone else get bloody processing it.
You have no clue to where & how your food gets to your undeserving yap.
I enjoy shooting, I live in about as low a crime area as you could hope to find - AND EVERYONE HERE OWNS GUNS! ;D
Have a nice day, BTW you live in a inner city? I'm sorry for you.....
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BTW, New York City has been Republican now for that last 15 years, it is not a 'liberal' city. We are just educated.
So you equate gun control with "education"? I really despise stereotypes like those.
I have an MBA from an Ivy League school, and I'm about as anti-gun control as you can get.
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He won't recover. :)
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Buy a gun and shut up, or move to where you can... If I kill the food I eat thats cowardly?
Cowardly is buying it wrapped up in plastic and Styrofoam and having someone else get bloody processing it.
You have no clue to where & how your food gets to your undeserving yap.
I enjoy shooting, I live in about as low a crime area as you could hope to find - AND EVERYONE HERE OWNS GUNS! ;D
Have a nice day, BTW you live in a inner city? I'm sorry for you.....
When I set up claymores outside my door at night, then you can worry but a Glock or M4 is hardly anything to cry to the ACLU and Democrats over. I bet many people wish they had a gun when they were attacked. Imagine if every woman pulled one on a rapist and blew his cock off. ;)
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The only reason NYC cops are opposed to private citizens having guns is because it doesn't apply to them. If they were required to leave their own guns at the police station before they punched out and went home they'd change their tune real quick. It's hypocrisy at its finest!
Damn skippy. Let them walk home amongst the skells unarmed and see how fast permits become a good idea. Hypocrital punks.
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Living in fear of your neighbors is no way to go through life. I am not anti gun but I cannot see going through life carring a gun 'just in case'. And I think hunters are cowardly and delusional.
If some of you live in bad area, there are many other things you can do to improve it than to carry a gun. Carrying a gun seems like a last resort to me.
I could list about a thousand scenarios in which your daily life could suddenly become totally fucked by some random asshole at the end of his rope and willing to do desperate shit.
As could you.
Random violence happens everyday in America. If you are willing to "play the odds" that it'll never happen to you, okay. If you're willing to "play the odds" that you can fistfight any threat to you and your family that some random asshole might present, okay.
I'm not.
If someone tries to harm my family, I'm going to do everything in my power to stop it, like any man will. I will do it armed, which makes me the target and not them. I might get killed, but chances are I was a dead man anyway in that case. I might pull the weapon and the bad guys reconsider, deciding to choose an unarmed target. I might get them first. I might make enough noise with the gun to alert police, neighbors, witnesses, heroes, someone to call 911, whatever.
Life is all about odds. We all crap out everntually anyway lol... but every day you roll the dice that you won't be the victim of a violent crime. If you ever are, a gun is just a way to help the odds more your way as well.
And i"m not uneducated - MBA plus undergrad degrees in teaching and CS. It's all about statistics. Anything I can reasonably do to make my odds of making it thru every day alive, I'm taking.
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your not lying,i pulled a little old lady over the other day for speeding and she handed me her concealed handgun license(law in texas),i asked her what she carried and she proceeded to show me the first and only H&K USP 45 socom(same gun i carry)but with pearl colored slip on grips and her name laser engraved on the side with letters that took up the whole slide in pink.i just laughed and let her go,didnt even check her drivers license.
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now that's a police officer.
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This is what I love in your U.S.A, you can buy guns from a regular logistic store, it's so awesome. Only thing you need to have is... clean backround, HAHA!!!
And even then you can just say; "Yeah but I found jesus last week so I'm ok now" and you american's like believer's so the sale's man would proly give him some napalm for free :D
Damn I so need a gun, so many people diserve to be shot.. *sigh*, OH dreams.
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I'm pissed that CA has the assault rifle ban. I had a sweet deal lined up for an M4 and that got screwed. Shit. If I am at home and want to draw down on an asshole and put a few .223 rounds in him, why not? What's the difference between that and a .45 round from a Glock?
Edged weapons training is very useful. Right on with the knives guys. Remember the hypothetical best places to stab. ;D
its time for you to move to texas buddy ;)
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Can someone post that pic of 240 with the hand gun?
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It's not that bad in the us. In my country you can get a few years and a huge fine for assaulting a burglar. And you are always a suspect when assaulting a burglar in your own home (you will be thrown into jail in every situation) Doesn't matter whether he is strapped or not. It happened lots of times here.
Gotta love leftist judges and prosecutors.
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It's not that bad in the us. In my country you can get a few years and a huge fine for assaulting a burglar. And you are always a suspect when assaulting a burglar in your own home (you will be thrown into jail in every situation) Doesn't matter whether he is strapped or not. It happened lots of times here.
Gotta love leftist judges and prosecutors.
UK? Ive heard thats the style there..... No way Id live there.
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UK? Ive heard thats the style there..... No way Id live there.
Netherlands. That's even worse than the uk! You can get away with about anything, except speeding and tax fraude. Those 2 will give make you very pour. The average murderer receives 6 years. Burglary keeps you in a police cell for about 2 hours.
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Netherlands. That's even worse than the uk! You can get away with about anything, except speeding and tax fraude. Those 2 will give make you very pour. The average murderer receives 6 years. Burglary keeps you in a police cell for about 2 hours.
Is there a lot of crime in Holland? Ive been there a couple times and like it.
Amsterdam can be a problem of course, still a lot of fun there.
The countryside sure seems peacefull.... I aint been back since about the mid 1980's though..
Kind of a cool country I thought.
No way I could live in the UK, Germany, or France... Nice places to visit.
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Is there a lot of crime in Holland? Ive been there a couple times and like it.
Amsterdam can be a problem of course, still a lot of fun there.
The countryside sure seems peacefull.... I aint been back since about the mid 1980's though..
Kind of a cool country I thought.
No way I could live in the UK, Germany, or France... Nice places to visit.
Yes there is. Most crime can be found in the big cities and the western part of the country. Southern and north-east region is very peacefull in general.
I never had a problem with crime personally, but i do know a lot of other individuals who experienced some nasty shit. North-African immigrants are the main problem.
I keep a .22 in my house in case the shit gets really out of hand.
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Can someone post that pic of 240 with the hand gun?
Exactly !
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They fucking don't and the animals get away with it. Police are 30 minutes late and if you do act in self defense you'll be the bad guy. I recall the situation with the kids asking me to buy them liquor getting almost out of hand because it looked as though they really were going to attack me, but it didn't happen thanks to a folding knife that's almost become a part of my right arm.
I know several store clerks around my area that have been robbed, and sometimes even assulted for no apparent reason. Leave it to the NYPD they say.. But had these people acted with some kind of weapon then they might've not been violated.
Many times it's just how you act.. Some bum came inside a pizza shop and the counter guy told her to leave.. She started swinging her arms drunkenly and started threatening everyone until I told her to fuck off with the n word. She went crazy and then I cooly just grabbed her shirt collar and shook her several times and told her to get the fuck out or I'd shank her to death. She left. ;D
240, NY has many micro situations with a lot of trouble. Hell, ask KH. Florida's incidents are mainly isolated. Huge difference.
See that's your problem, you trying play hard, and don't know how to diffuse the situation.
Telling her to fuck off with the N word only escalated the situation...especially when your only one with a weapon. And the person was bum . It seems like you like to use that word alot, and if you use on the wrong one, the knife might not do you any good, like some Kimbo looking muthafucker that you just pissed off. I know you live in NYC, but if dudes ask you but them liquor, say no, or I'm under 21 ( if you're young looking) or whatever and "keep it moving", no need for some "extra shit", cause "extra shit" will get you shit. When you throw in extra shit when there is no need to, it means you take it personally and you are trying to be hard, and when you take shit personally it becomes a weakness, which people will try and exploit. As far as the hoods, they can smell who to mess with, like predators, yeah they step back, but the smell is on you. At one time I had to learn the hard way, and once I learned, I had no more problems. Now, I don't get any problems, and I work in a jail in Wash, DC metro area.
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Yes there is. Most crime can be found in the big cities and the western part of the country. Southern and north-east region is very peacefull in general.
I never had a problem with crime personally, but i do know a lot of other individuals who experienced some nasty shit. North-African immigrants are the main problem.
I keep a .22 in my house in case the shit gets really out of hand.
Yeah, Amsterdam had its share of those trash immigrants back when I was there. I can imagine its only worse.
The whole western world need to wake up and learn that our tollerance does not work w/ these animals.
If we want to devolve to their level all we need do is recognise their barbaric practices as equal to ours.
(Or ignore them in their neighborhoods and let them breed their way to a majority)
Its out of control everywhere. PPL need to learn the truth about their various cultural practices, beliefs, and "Laws".
Holland actually is one of the favorite places Ive been. Athens, Spain, Portugal,Scandanavia also.
The Damn US$ is worth crap now,,,, You should visit the USA if you ever plant to while the Euro/ (Guilder still too?)
is strong. But I dont suspect the dollar to go skyrocketing in value anytime soon.....
You prolly have a few years of very strong Euro:US$ to go.
The USA is SO large is the problem for travlers coming here.
Your country has some advantages that the USA will never have...
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. North-African immigrants are the main problem.
a friend from Belgium said the Morrocans were always starting shit in his country
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a friend from Belgium said the Morrocans were always starting shit in his country
My sis was in Paris for New Years and she said, that they were gangs of N. Africans rooming near the Eiffel Tower. Said they were skinny punks, that were trying to fight a rival gang.
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Yeah, Amsterdam had its share of those trash immigrants back when I was there. I can imagine its only worse.
yeah we also have our ghetto's
Holland actually is one of the favorite places Ive been. Athens, Spain, Portugal,Scandanavia also.
The Damn US$ is worth crap now,,,, You should visit the USA if you ever plant to while the Euro/ (Guilder still too?)
is strong. But I dont suspect the dollar to go skyrocketing in value anytime soon.....
You prolly have a few years of very strong Euro:US$ to go.
The USA is SO large is the problem for travlers coming here.
Your country has some advantages that the USA will never have...
Both countries have their advantages. The best thing i like about the usa if the fact that americans are able to show some patriotism. If you try to wear a dutch flag here, you will be seen as a racist neo-nazi.
Immigrants have a very big influence on the policy's here. You can't say anything bad about them or you will be labeled as a racist. Most of them don't give a shit about the law or common (unwritten) rules. And i hate the fact that they can get away with anything.
The best thing in holland is the weak policy against roids. UG's labs don't have to fear the government :)
a friend from Belgium said the Morrocans were always starting shit in his country
Same here. However most turkish people here for example only work their ass off and don't do anything bad. Same goes for the asians. They adept to our laws and culture and respect them. Some cultures are simply too dominant.
Two biggest problems are morrocans and people from the dutch antilles/suriname.
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This is what I love in your U.S.A, you can buy guns from a regular logistic store, it's so awesome. Only thing you need to have is... clean backround, HAHA!!!
And even then you can just say; "Yeah but I found jesus last week so I'm ok now" and you american's like believer's so the sale's man would proly give him some napalm for free :D
Damn I so need a gun, so many people diserve to be shot.. *sigh*, OH dreams.
It doesn't work that way, moron. If you buy a gun and then use it to shoot people, you go to jail. Yes, Americans are allowed to have guns (if they are not criminals, and no, there's no "religious" exemption ::)), but they can only use them for self-defense. Europeans think we're stupid or something because we allow law-abiding people to defend themselves. In my opinion, the Europeans are the stupid ones because they require their citizens to be victims if they are unlucky enough to be randomly targeted by predators.
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In my opinion, the Europeans are the stupid ones because they require their citizens to be victims if they are unlucky enough to be randomly targeted by predators.
I challenge our anti-gun Euro friends here to tell us what YOU would do if randomly targeted by a predator.
If 3 men with clubs decided to beat the shit out of you, or perhaps pull your lady into their van for an evening of surprise sex...
What the hell would you do?
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It doesn't work that way, moron. If you buy a gun and then use it to shoot people, you go to jail. Yes, Americans are allowed to have guns (if they are not criminals, and no, there's no "religious" exemption ::)), but they can only use them for self-defense. Europeans think we're stupid or something because we allow law-abiding people to defend themselves. In my opinion, the Europeans are the stupid ones because they require their citizens to be victims if they are unlucky enough to be randomly targeted by predators.
Exactly. I live in a pretty safe place in The Netherlands, but if I go out to certain places I carry a knife, just in case. Better would be a gun, but that's forbidden here. In case of an attack I'll be better of in jail then in a hospital, fighting for my life. That's how it is.
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I challenge our anti-gun Euro friends here to tell us what YOU would do if randomly targeted by a predator.
If 3 men with clubs decided to beat the shit out of you, or perhaps pull your lady into their van for an evening of surprise sex...
What the hell would you do?
I feel you. A lot of my fellow europeans are very ignorant towards the us. They think it's the wild west but they don't know shit. They only say what they see in the media.
Everyone should have the right to defend themselves/family.
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I challenge our anti-gun Euro friends here to tell us what YOU would do if randomly targeted by a predator.
If 3 men with clubs decided to beat the shit out of you, or perhaps pull your lady into their van for an evening of surprise sex...
What the hell would you do?
Exactly. In this case I wish I would be able to shoot them down, preferably dead or badly wounded. Otherwise I would be in trouble against 3 men.
BTW I'm from The Netherlands, Europe.
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And ofcourse, guns don't kill people.
People would be hitting eachother with wooden sticks if guns and knives would be banned completely.
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And ofcourse, guns don't kill people.
People would be hitting eachother with wooden sticks if guns and knives would be banned completely.
Yes - but - guns are the great equalizer. If 5 men with sticks attack me, I might be Bruce Lee with that fvcking stick, but I'm probably going to end up in the hospital or dead. You can only engage one man at a time.
A gun allows you to instantly deter them on a much bigger basis. Seeing the gun stops most crimes. And in the other cases, it's pretty likely that bad guys #2,3,4,5 will reconsider their plan to take your wallet when they see bad guy #1 get his brains blown out. Something about seeing your life flah before your eyes ends criminal loyalty pretty quickly.
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Yes - but - guns are the great equalizer. If 5 men with sticks attack me, I might be Bruce Lee with that fvcking stick, but I'm probably going to end up in the hospital or dead. You can only engage one man at a time.
A gun allows you to instantly deter them on a much bigger basis. Seeing the gun stops most crimes. And in the other cases, it's pretty likely that bad guys #2,3,4,5 will reconsider their plan to take your wallet when they see bad guy #1 get his brains blown out. Something about seeing your life flah before your eyes ends criminal loyalty pretty quickly.
Bruce Lee engaged more than one man at a time, so does Jackie Chan.
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Bruce Lee engaged more than one man at a time, so does Jackie Chan.
they take turns attacking you in karate movies, at most coming 2 at a time. The others wave their numchucks (sp?) and wait their turn. If you've ever seen someone jumped in real life, it's pretty much one dude getting trucked by 4 guys, pinned to the ground, then hit and kicked a bunch of times.
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they take turns attacking you in karate movies, at most coming 2 at a time. The others wave their numchucks (sp?) and wait their turn. If you've ever seen someone jumped in real life, it's pretty much one dude getting trucked by 4 guys, pinned to the ground, then hit and kicked a bunch of times.
Oh jeebus, Robert, it was a joke, are you that far gone?
BTW, I am in favor of all law abiding citizens being allowed to carry concealed.
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sorry, i was watching the bucs lose and didn't register the sarcasm to it, my mistake!
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sorry, i was watching the bucs lose and didn't register the sarcasm to it, my mistake!
HAHAA if they had guns,they could have won!! ;D
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HAHAA if they had guns,they could have won!! ;D
Remember that football runback on 'Last Boy Scout"?
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they take turns attacking you in karate movies, at most coming 2 at a time. The others wave their numchucks (sp?) and wait their turn. If you've ever seen someone jumped in real life, it's pretty much one dude getting trucked by 4 guys, pinned to the ground, then hit and kicked a bunch of times.
Yeah, pretty sad that pussies can't fight one on one. If you get into a fight, the only times your friend(s) should jump in is if you look like you might get killed. If you get knocked out, suck it up and chalk it up to experience.
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Living in fear of your neighbors is no way to go through life. I am not anti gun but I cannot see going through life carring a gun 'just in case'. And I think hunters are cowardly and delusional.
If some of you live in bad area, there are many other things you can do to improve it than to carry a gun. Carrying a gun seems like a last resort to me.
BTW, New York City has been Republican now for that last 15 years, it is not a 'liberal' city. We are just educated.
I'm not going to be victimized by some tough guy homo wanting newports and a fucking light. I live in an okay neighborhood but I have to crisscross between slums.. I mean once you cross one avenue you're in the ghetto, while the other side is jews, indians, greeks and others.
I've never attacked anyone. But I wouldn't mind slashing open someone's throat if they tried to harm me or my family.
And besides, don't you live upstate? ::) Who are you to comment on the safety issue of others? And dare you even suggest that our need to carry is due to our lack of education?
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See that's your problem, you trying play hard, and don't know how to diffuse the situation.
Telling her to fuck off with the N word only escalated the situation...especially when your only one with a weapon. And the person was bum . It seems like you like to use that word alot, and if you use on the wrong one, the knife might not do you any good, like some Kimbo looking muthafucker that you just pissed off. I know you live in NYC, but if dudes ask you but them liquor, say no, or I'm under 21 ( if you're young looking) or whatever and "keep it moving", no need for some "extra shit", cause "extra shit" will get you shit. When you throw in extra shit when there is no need to, it means you take it personally and you are trying to be hard, and when you take shit personally it becomes a weakness, which people will try and exploit. As far as the hoods, they can smell who to mess with, like predators, yeah they step back, but the smell is on you. At one time I had to learn the hard way, and once I learned, I had no more problems. Now, I don't get any problems, and I work in a jail in Wash, DC metro area.
I lost my head with the bum.
But those kids man, they really pushed me. Acted as though I owed them something. They went out of their way to provoke me and wanted me to back down, but I didn't and the folding knife glinting in the street lamps really showed them.
I am actually a pretty reserved individual. I'm not proud of using racial slurs, but my anger just took over and I couldn't control myself. Sometimes when you're pushed bad things can happen. I've never really hurt anyone, and I have the ability to diffuse situations and play it cool, but only to a point. I'm not going to be anyone's victim.
I have many black and hispanic friends btw. It's just that you know, there's like a divide, just as there's a divide between of people of my demographic. Terrorists, fanatics, inept cabbies, but also good people like me who just want the American dream. I'm sure you understand? I mean I've used more racial slurs irl against my own people than black people. ;D Not proud of it, but that's what I've done.
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I've never attacked anyone. But I wouldn't mind slashing open someone's throat if they tried to harm me or my family.
Good.
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ND, is that Springfield armory? ;D
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I challenge our anti-gun Euro friends here to tell us what YOU would do if randomly targeted by a predator.
If 3 men with clubs decided to beat the shit out of you, or perhaps pull your lady into their van for an evening of surprise sex...
What the hell would you do?
Well, that is a bit of a challenge, because we must travel all the way to the USA to really find that out, because shit like that doesn't happen here ;D
Last time when I was under attack, I was in Bosnia and they were using tanks and shit like that, so that doesn't count, but when I walk in my home town, nobody wants to fight with me...not even if I want to fight...what a drag...But anyway, face the facts: There is no place in this globe which could compete with your country in that sport of killing innocent bystanders, and such place never will be. You guys are masters of the universe when it comes to killing each other, but you shouldn't be so proud about it. It just proves how ignorant and stupid you guys really are.
Think about this: In your country every one of these complete morons who ever has been writing in this forum, could have a gun. Think about it? You are a perfect example with your little Clock. No brainer with a gun, scared and waiting an attack. Still, you live in an apartment with chart board walls, behind a door which opens inside, so even a child could kick it in. What I mean is that modern guns and cartridges pack so much power, that it is quite easy kill you by shooting trough the wall, and if somebody want to visit in your house, your door doesn't stop him. When I was in USA to pick up my new tools few month back, I did check that out...
We were visiting in couple of your fine long range shooting facilities and spend two weeks testing our new rifles, doing some prairie dog hunting etc. and shooting targets up to 2,5 kilometers. .408 seem to be quite efficient caliber, and it fly so fast that you never hear it coming ;D
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But anyway, face the facts: There is no place in this globe which could compete with your country in that sport of killing innocent bystanders, and such place never will be. You guys are masters of the universe when it comes to killing each other,
We are ??? So all the innocent killed in the middle east by suicide bombers aren't innocent after all? That's great news, next time the media is blasting the war and the killing of innocent by standers, I'll remember your post and I'll feel relieved. ::)
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Bottom line is that responsible people should be able to attain firearms for hobby and defense if they've proven themselves to be responsible.
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Wow,,,to think a Pink Hello Kitty AR would stir up SO much trouble....
Many of You Euro guys have a very distorted perception of the USA from the TV.
Its a very large country w/ a lot of rural land that is undeveloped.
Ive got cyotes, fox, Racoons (Damn PC spell-check wont allow C O O N ;D) Deer Turkey ...
Saw 2 wolf about 2 years back... DNR though it be cute to "reintroduce" them ::)) Farmers feel differently.
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Well, that is a bit of a challenge, because we must travel all the way to the USA to really find that out, because shit like that doesn't happen here ;D
Maybe it happens less, but it still happens. It happens everywhere in the world. Bad people are everywhere. If you like your chances, super.
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ND, is that Springfield armory? ;D
No thats better its a Kimber !
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No thats better its a Kimber !
i got rid of my kimber because it wouldnt eject my reloads >:(
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bench, my bro had a .45 USP.. sadly my mother threw it away when he left..
I remember crying like a little wuss when my brother took me to a range in Columbus, Ohio.. I even got to fire his SLR, and a remington .308 rifle(7.62 x 51) sniper rifle.. I cried like a baby as I was like only 12 at the time.. and he laughed. I think I even fired his SKS.
My brother knew a Tamil Tiger(Sri Lankan resistance group member) that had a stash of weapons in Ohio. Dude had an mp5 fully autto, an m4 and 3 ar-15s.. He he a sig sour, taurous .9mm, hk, glock and some many other firearms.. Crazy dude. A guru to my brother and many gun crazy white boys too.
Sadly my brother sold all his shit and abandoned the hobby all together and I was left with silly knowledge of firearms though I have none in my posession. Pathetic, huh?
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i got rid of my kimber because it wouldnt eject my reloads >:(
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I have that problem with cheap loads in my Sig .40.... :-\
Not getting rid of it though. :)
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I want to move out this shitty state within a few years..
Soon carrying a fucking toothpick will be illegal. ::)
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Wow,,,to think a Pink Hello Kitty AR would stir up SO much trouble....
Many of You Euro guys have a very distorted perception of the USA from the TV.
Its a very large country w/ a lot of rural land that is undeveloped.
Ive got cyotes, fox, Racoons (Damn PC spell-check wont allow C O O N ;D) Deer Turkey ...
Saw 2 wolf about 2 years back... DNR though it be cute to "reintroduce" them ::)) Farmers feel differently.
Maybe farmers should breed faster moving cattle, ones with more fast-twitch fibers ;D. Ain't the wolves fault domestic cattle are slow moving lunch boxes on legs. Problem is Wolves nor any other creature knows boundaries that should not cross...
Ahh, the outdoors.
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Yes - but - guns are the great equalizer. If 5 men with sticks attack me, I might be Bruce Lee with that fvcking stick, but I'm probably going to end up in the hospital or dead. You can only engage one man at a time.
A gun allows you to instantly deter them on a much bigger basis. Seeing the gun stops most crimes. And in the other cases, it's pretty likely that bad guys #2,3,4,5 will reconsider their plan to take your wallet when they see bad guy #1 get his brains blown out. Something about seeing your life flah before your eyes ends criminal loyalty pretty quickly.
What would you do in this situation?
http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/37634/bbdb6a10/gekke_nederlandse_man_steekt_vrouw_in_rotterdam.html
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The people in the movie refuse to help all the way because they will be arrested too if they beat up the attacker.
The attacker received 1 year. Gotta love leftist judges.
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AR15 will run you 800 to 1200, depending on specs.
most glocks are 500 to 600.
Customizing it like that often costs more than the gun itself.
Or forget the plastic guns, and get a real custom like this custom built titanium framed Caspian commander 1911 I had built:
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b374/willbrink/TiCommander1.jpg)
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Florida's permits work in 18 other states now, I think. Georgia, Ohio, and others. It's cool when states recognize each other's like that.
I have FL, Utah, NV, NH, MA, and ME.