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Title: gyno problem
Post by: albertabeef on January 06, 2008, 12:13:11 AM
I finished my last cycle about 3 months ago. But now, all of a sudden, my gyno is getting worse. what is the best way to reduce this? Is novadex the way to go?
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: trab on January 06, 2008, 07:07:43 AM
Nolva NOW! Your low test level now makes you more prone to it.
BLock it now, get to the Dr if need be.
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: dr_para24 on January 06, 2008, 08:17:44 AM
I think you better look for anastrozole incase Nova cannot work.
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: jtsunami on January 06, 2008, 08:58:44 AM
http://www.cosmetic-md.com/gynecomastia/gynecomastia_male_breast_reduction.asp
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: Mega Man on March 26, 2008, 01:41:01 AM
How much does Gyno Surgery Cost from him?
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: Fulgorre on March 26, 2008, 12:15:26 PM
I experienced my 1st round with gyno about 3 weeks ago.  Test prop 100mg EOD and tren 75mg EOD.  So I was injecting everyday.  Now, I decided to stop cutting and start bulking so I took some slow acting test e and deca.  In the overlapping peroid is when my left nipples swelled and hurt.  I knew what it was so I took 40mg Nolvadex for 3 days and then kept taking for another 5-6 days.  It subsided and now...about 3 weeks later perfectly normal.  Btw, I'm not prone to gyno or I think I might have been screwed.
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: candidizzle on March 26, 2008, 12:23:16 PM
i think mid summer im going to run a cutting cycle.. just like 8 weeks long...i want to run a strong anti-aromatose like letro for the fat los effects, as well as getting rid of some gyno i developed.... do you think 8 weeks of letro would be enough to get rid of ggyno?
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: Mega Man on March 26, 2008, 03:59:05 PM
i think mid summer im going to run a cutting cycle.. just like 8 weeks long...i want to run a strong anti-aromatose like letro for the fat los effects, as well as getting rid of some gyno i developed.... do you think 8 weeks of letro would be enough to get rid of ggyno?

What kind of Fat loss effects does letro have?
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: busyB on March 26, 2008, 05:09:14 PM
What kind of Fat loss effects does letro have?

Water loss, not fat loss.  ;)

Only will help lose that "bloat" associated with some gear.

Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: Beener on March 26, 2008, 06:16:36 PM
i think mid summer im going to run a cutting cycle.. just like 8 weeks long...i want to run a strong anti-aromatose like letro for the fat los effects, as well as getting rid of some gyno i developed.... do you think 8 weeks of letro would be enough to get rid of ggyno?

I wouldn't bet on letro getting rid of your gyno dude. Fat loss helps make it look much smaller. But gettin rid of it, even letro cant do that.
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: busyB on March 26, 2008, 06:37:10 PM
I wouldn't bet on letro getting rid of your gyno dude. Fat loss helps make it look much smaller. But gettin rid of it, even letro cant do that.

Not completely but will shrink it down to where it is not noticable at all. Knocked mine down nicely....

Only way to get rid of it permantly is to cut out the gland iteself.  :'(
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: candidizzle on March 26, 2008, 07:52:32 PM
Water loss, not fat loss.  ;)
Only will help lose that "bloat" associated with some gear.


thats not true, busyb!  elminating estrogen has very strong hormonal fat burning effects. estrogen is "fattening" to a degree, while testosterone is "fat burning" to a degree.   
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: busyB on March 26, 2008, 07:54:06 PM
thats not true, busyb!  elminating estrogen has very strong hormonal fat burning effects. estrogen is "fattening" to a degree, while testosterone is "fat burning" to a degree.   

LOL!! HAAA HAAA right.... you are over thinking again  :-\
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: Emmortal on March 26, 2008, 08:00:53 PM
My balls receded reading this thread.
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: candidizzle on March 26, 2008, 08:13:56 PM
LOL!! HAAA HAAA right.... you are over thinking again  :-\
nope. why dont you do som research bro?  you will find this out.  its very basic shit...even i know about the fattening effects of estrogen...   you SHOULD know it too
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: busyB on March 27, 2008, 11:56:57 AM
nope. why dont you do som research bro?  you will find this out.  its very basic shit...even i know about the fattening effects of estrogen...   you SHOULD know it too

Not your bro, thanks for the education once again  :-\

That has nothing to do with what he asked. Letro will not help burn bodyfat, will help drop some water. His question had nothing to do with the "Fattening Effects of Estrogen" ....sounds like the title to your new book, no?
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: candidizzle on March 27, 2008, 12:36:20 PM
Letro will not help burn bodyfat,

while i dont have any experience with letrozol personally, all studies and and articles on the effects of eliminating, or reducing, estrogen show that it helps to burn fat.
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: Arnold jr on March 27, 2008, 01:10:21 PM
*Letro will not burn fat...it has nothing to do with burning fat.

*The more estrogen you have floating around, the higher probability you have that your body will store fat...more estrogen can often equal more bodyfat. More bodyfat also leads to producing more estrogen...it's a two edged sword.

*If you take letro, you do reduce the amount of estrogen floating around in your body, but you do not begin burning more fat because of the letro. Granted, you will have less estrogen in your body, so it will be easier to burn fat, but the burning of the fat has nothing to do with the letro itself.

*Letro will not remove/get rid of bad gyno...it can shrink it though.

*If no gyno exist and a very small amount starts to show up, letro will shrink it to the point of non existence...however, it did not get rid of it completely, it's still there, you just can't see it.

*Once you have gyno, you have gyno, the only thing to eliminate it completely is to have the glands removed...which I would like/plan on having done sometime in the future because I'm tired of worrying/dealing with it.


Hope this helps
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: candidizzle on March 27, 2008, 01:12:21 PM


*If you take letro, you do reduce the amount of estrogen floating around in your body, but you do not begin burning more fat because of the letro. Granted, you will have less estrogen in your body, so it will be easier to burn fat, but the burning of the fat has nothing to do with the letro itself.
   this is my point exactly.
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: candidizzle on March 27, 2008, 01:14:00 PM
premise 1= letro causes a reduction in estrogen

premise 2= a reduction in estrogen causes and easier burning of fat.


conclusion= letro causes an easier burning of fat.


basic logic...
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: OTHstrong on March 27, 2008, 06:51:23 PM
Someone asked what Gyno surgery cost, 5000 dollers, its cosmetic so no help from health coverage and the first thing they will tell you is that there is a chance of it coming back.

hope this helps
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: Mega Man on March 27, 2008, 09:56:24 PM
Someone asked what Gyno surgery cost, 5000 dollers, its cosmetic so no help from health coverage and the first thing they will tell you is that there is a chance of it coming back.

hope this helps

I was the one that asked....Man That is a steep price....I bet they can charge such a high price cause a man with better tities than a pornstar would sell his soul to get it removed ;D
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: Big_Tymer on March 27, 2008, 10:07:20 PM
didnt someone on here get their gyno surgery covered by their insurrance by getting the doctor to say it was being removed for 'abnormal growth' and not cosmetic reasons?  something like that
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: abc123 on March 28, 2008, 03:47:54 AM
Yes, my insurance paid for it.  I just said that I had had it since my teens, but for some reason it was all of a sudden getting worse and I was worried about it.  I asked the doctor to submit the insurance claim explaining that they were concerned about the growth and that they sent it away for testing. 

Also, I did not mention gear.  The doctor joked around with me that smoking weed sometimes causes gyno.  I don't think he had a clue what was really going on.  I am pretty lean at this point and it is not obvious that I "supplement" my workouts.

Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: Kegdrainer on April 02, 2008, 08:13:34 PM
If you tell your doctor it has always been there and it's starting to get painful then your insurance will probably cover it.  Especially if you lie and mention something like there is a history of cancer in your family or make up an uncle who had male breast cancer or some shit like that.  If your surgeon wants to make a quick $5000 he will find a way to make your insurance pay for it.

Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: OTHstrong on April 02, 2008, 08:25:53 PM
If you tell your doctor it has always been there and it's starting to get painful then your insurance will probably cover it.  Especially if you lie and mention something like there is a history of cancer in your family or make up an uncle who had male breast cancer or some shit like that.  If your surgeon wants to make a quick $5000 he will find a way to make your insurance pay for it.


To even talk to any surgeon that does this treatment cost 100 dollars, You get this done at the same place that Women get breast implants and most places are booked several months in advance; your acting like they are desperate for bussiness. I don' t doubt that there is way for insurance to cover, but very unlikely and if your lucky chances are you are goiing to a surgeon that hasn't had much experiance in the field in comparison to a successful plastic surgeon clinic.

Oh and another thing if you even look like half a bodybuilder you aint getting any cherity.
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: benz on April 02, 2008, 08:35:31 PM
The thread started is MIA.
I bet he's breast feeding kids now hahaha
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: rccs on April 03, 2008, 09:18:30 AM
Nolva can not only block estrogen receptors, as it can also help to recover natural test levels after a cycle. Can letro have the same effect, block estrogen and promote natural test levels? What is, normally, the intake of letro per day?
Title: Re: gyno problem
Post by: Mega Man on April 03, 2008, 10:19:07 PM
Nolva can not only block estrogen receptors, as it can also help to recover natural test levels after a cycle. Can letro have the same effect, block estrogen and promote natural test levels? What is, normally, the intake of letro per day?

Letro can also help with the recovery of natural test levels.......but it is so powerfull at lowering estrogen that it throws the whole hormonal system out of wack....which is the exact opposite of what PCT is for. So nobody would ever use Letro over Nolvadex for PCT.