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Title: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Voice of Doom on February 04, 2008, 08:17:23 PM
So in the 8 months since the buyout we now have 3 of the 5 UFC titles firmly in PRIDE fighter hands! 
And the next most exciting fight features 2 more PRIDE fighters Silva VS Henderson.  I suspect the loser to drop weight and take the belt from GSP.

Two more divisions left..... :o



Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: mame09 on February 04, 2008, 09:05:49 PM
just imagine of they were all back on there "supplements"

not one ufc fighter would stand a chance against the weakest pride fighters lol
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: CARTEL on February 04, 2008, 11:06:38 PM
I too am enjoying the reign of the Pride.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Geo on February 04, 2008, 11:31:13 PM
it is breatheing more life into the UFC that's for damned sure......


can't wait for Silva/Jackson III in the cage
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 04:36:06 AM
That's 1 title.

Rampage holds it.

Nog has yet to fight Randy before he can call himself the champ IMO.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Fury on February 05, 2008, 05:40:09 AM
3 belts baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3 of 4 considering PRIDE was missing a class due to lack of obvious talent out there. Those UFC fanboys like Bluto and Mindspin break out in a cold sweat as they watch the cream of the crop in the UFC easily fall victim to Pride fighters.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: MindSpin on February 05, 2008, 07:28:56 AM
First of all, there is no Pride.  The UFC gobbled it up...hope that helps. 

Second, only Rampage, who was a 2nd tier fighter in Pride is currently holding a belt.  The top tier guys in that division, Rua, Silva, Henderson have all be dominated in the UFC. 

Nog is holding a belt only because Randy left it vacant and because they put that red-neck giant in there with him.  Unless he fights Randy, he is not the true champ and he knows it. 

Anderson is not a true Pride fighter.  Of his 24 fights, only 5 were in Pride, of which 2 were losses.  He's had 5 straight wins in the UFC.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 08:56:43 AM
First of all, there is no Pride.  The UFC gobbled it up...hope that helps. 

Second, only Rampage, who was a 2nd tier fighter in Pride is currently holding a belt.  The top tier guys in that division, Rua, Silva, Henderson have all be dominated in the UFC. 

Nog is holding a belt only because Randy left it vacant and because they put that red-neck giant in there with him.  Unless he fights Randy, he is not the true champ and he knows it. 

Anderson is not a true Pride fighter.  Of his 24 fights, only 5 were in Pride, of which 2 were losses.  He's had 5 straight wins in the UFC.

Word.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 05, 2008, 12:35:13 PM
First of all, there is no Pride.  The UFC gobbled it up...hope that helps. 

Second, only Rampage, who was a 2nd tier fighter in Pride is currently holding a belt.  The top tier guys in that division, Rua, Silva, Henderson have all be dominated in the UFC. 

Nog is holding a belt only because Randy left it vacant and because they put that red-neck giant in there with him.  Unless he fights Randy, he is not the true champ and he knows it. 

Anderson is not a true Pride fighter.  Of his 24 fights, only 5 were in Pride, of which 2 were losses.  He's had 5 straight wins in the UFC.

how was henderson and wanderlei dominated? henderson lost to rampage  A PRIDE FIGHTER and rua gassed

nog is a horrible match up for randy, and if you want to say he is not the true champ than josh barnett is the true ufc champ because he never lost the ufc belt, blame juice if you want but do you seriously believe randy is "the natural"?

anderson fought in pride before ufc and didn't do so well, and his 5 straight wins in the ufc proves prides dominance

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Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 12:44:20 PM

how was henderson and wanderlei dominated? henderson lost to rampage  A PRIDE FIGHTER and rua gassed

nog is a horrible match up for randy, and if you want to say he is not the true champ than josh barnett is the true ufc champ because he never lost the ufc belt, blame juice if you want but do you seriously believe randy is "the natural"?

anderson fought in pride before ufc and didn't do so well, and his 5 straight wins in the ufc proves prides dominance

E

why is nog a horrible match up?

so anyone who ever fought anywhere outside the ufc and becomes successful in the ufc, is a [insert name]-fighter? (whether it be pride, rings or whatever) ?

Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Logan32 on February 05, 2008, 12:51:49 PM
Ok guys can we get over this Pride vs. UFC debate. Pride does not exist any longer. Beyond that fact Anderson Silva out of his 24 fights only fought 5 of those fights in Pride. Rampage fought in King of the Cage before he fought in Pride doesn't that make him a KOTC Fighter? Nog started out in World Extreme Fighting before he went to Rings then went to Pride.....  Anyway I guess the point is everyone started out someplace before the place they are in now. I mean arguably the most dominant fighter Pride had was Wandy does that make him a UFC fighter because he fought there before Pride?    
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: MindSpin on February 05, 2008, 01:49:32 PM
Ok guys can we get over this Pride vs. UFC debate. Pride does not exist any longer. Beyond that fact Anderson Silva out of his 24 fights only fought 5 of those fights in Pride. Rampage fought in King of the Cage before he fought in Pride doesn't that make him a KOTC Fighter? Nog started out in World Extreme Fighting before he went to Rings then went to Pride.....  Anyway I guess the point is everyone started out someplace before the place they are in now. I mean arguably the most dominant fighter Pride had was Wandy does that make him a UFC fighter because he fought there before Pride?    

true dat.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 05, 2008, 01:52:22 PM
why is nog a horrible match up?

so anyone who ever fought anywhere outside the ufc and becomes successful in the ufc, is a [insert name]-fighter? (whether it be pride, rings or whatever) ?



randy isn't going to just take him to the mat for ground and pounde like he always does, nog will submit him easily

like i told you before anderson made his name in pride to non tuffers

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Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: cht868 on February 05, 2008, 02:06:33 PM
So in the 8 months since the buyout we now have 3 of the 5 UFC titles firmly in PRIDE fighter hands! 
And the next most exciting fight features 2 more PRIDE fighters Silva VS Henderson.  I suspect the loser to drop weight and take the belt from GSP.

Two more divisions left..... :o





neither one of those guys is dropping down to 170 anytime soon imo
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 02:27:47 PM
randy isn't going to just take him to the mat for ground and pounde like he always does, nog will submit him easily

like i told you before anderson made his name in pride to non tuffers

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Randy got more tools in his toolbox. He finished Gonzaga standing. He dominated Sylvia for all 5 rounds (where as Nog had big problems with Sylvia)

Anderson did NOT make a name for himself in Pride.

You do not make a name of yourself by LOSING fights and fighting cans. Common sense to anyone but you.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: BDsauce on February 05, 2008, 02:53:27 PM
Anderson made a NAME for himself when he beat the "Brazilian Killer" Alex Stiebling (Stiebling had alot of jock riders at the time)..... in PRIDE! Then he beats Carlos Newton....you know former UFC champ????

Anderson then loses to Takese and Pride didnt have any of that and let him go, just like they did with many fighters. He then comes back after some nice wins over Horn/Murray and what does he do???? He loses to another Jap.

Then Pride reject Silva enters the UFC and wins their belt.  ;D
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Fury on February 05, 2008, 02:54:43 PM

how was henderson and wanderlei dominated? henderson lost to rampage  A PRIDE FIGHTER and rua gassed

nog is a horrible match up for randy, and if you want to say he is not the true champ than josh barnett is the true ufc champ because he never lost the ufc belt, blame juice if you want but do you seriously believe randy is "the natural"?

anderson fought in pride before ufc and didn't do so well, and his 5 straight wins in the ufc proves prides dominance

E

You have to forgive Mindspin and Bluto. They just started watching MMA in 2007 and have no concept of what Pride was. They're trying to assert their novice opinions on a topic they know nothing about. A 40 year old Columbian dork suffering a mid-life crisis who snowboards and chokes out his other 40 year old friends at poker is trying to claim that the UFC is better. Ha ha ha.

Pride holds 3 of the 5 UFC belts. OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The fact Rampage, who was a subpar Pride fighter, single handedly dismantled what many considered the greatest MMA fighter produced by the UFC in the last 6 years proves how much better Pride was. Chucky Liddell who?

M-1's already better anyway.

Anderson made a NAME for himself when he beat the "Brazilian Killer" Alex Stiebling (Stiebling had alot of jock riders at the time)..... in PRIDE! Then he beats Carlos Newton....you know former UFC champ????

Anderson then loses to Takese and Pride didnt have any of that and let him go, just like they did with many fighters. He then comes back after some nice wins over Horn/Murray and what does he do???? He loses to another Jap.

Then Pride reject Silva enters the UFC and wins their belt.  ;D

You forgot "entered the UFC and destroyed one of the faces of the organization who was widely hyped up as being pretty much unbeatable."






The Mindspin and Bluto meltdowns are comedic gold. I love TUF fanboys, no matter how much you slap them around, they keep coming back.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 03:14:18 PM
Anderson made a NAME for himself when he beat the "Brazilian Killer" Alex Stiebling (Stiebling had alot of jock riders at the time)..... in PRIDE! Then he beats Carlos Newton....you know former UFC champ????

Anderson then loses to Takese and Pride didnt have any of that and let him go, just like they did with many fighters. He then comes back after some nice wins over Horn/Murray and what does he do???? He loses to another Jap.

Then Pride reject Silva enters the UFC and wins their belt.  ;D

Stiebling went on to lose 4 fights in a row, including getting KO'ed by Marvin Eastman  ::)
Carlos Newton was UFC leftovers at that time.

Yeah he got submitted. And when they give him another chance - he get submitted again. Is that how you build a career? Getting your ass kicked?
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: MB_722 on February 05, 2008, 03:30:14 PM
pride was awesome.

all of it was sooo much better than ufc is.  ;D

some of you will never understand.

Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: MindSpin on February 05, 2008, 03:30:53 PM
You have to forgive Mindspin and Bluto. They just started watching MMA in 2007 and have no concept of what Pride was. They're trying to assert their novice opinions on a topic they know nothing about. A 40 year old Columbian dork suffering a mid-life crisis who snowboards and chokes out his other 40 year old friends at poker is trying to claim that the UFC is better. Ha ha ha.

Pride holds 3 of the 5 UFC belts. OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The fact Rampage, who was a subpar Pride fighter, single handedly dismantled what many considered the greatest MMA fighter produced by the UFC in the last 6 years proves how much better Pride was. Chucky Liddell who?

M-1's already better anyway.

You forgot "entered the UFC and destroyed one of the faces of the organization who was widely hyped up as being pretty much unbeatable."






The Mindspin and Bluto meltdowns are comedic gold. I love TUF fanboys, no matter how much you slap them around, they keep coming back.

A few facts:
*35 not 40
*Colombian not Columbian
*Been snowboarding/surfing since I was 12
*Been watching UFC since mid 90's.
*Been Studying martial arts on/off since I was 5; been focusing on Krav Maga for the last 3 yrs.
*In terms of "owning", the UFC literally OWNS Pride.

Hope that helps.

What have you done with your life besides spending it on a message forum ???
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 03:31:11 PM
pride was awesome.

all of it was sooo much better than ufc is.  ;D

some of you will never understand.



Sometime it was, sometimes it wasn't.

Just like UFC.

Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: cht868 on February 05, 2008, 04:00:07 PM
pride rules in an octagon is what the fans want
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 04:29:25 PM
Pride fighters in general has done absolutely TERRIBLE since they came to the UFC. This is a fact, so much that people been busy for months discussing WHY that is rather than IF that is.

Even fighters coming outta Pride fighting in the US and winning get criticized - and rightfully so.

NOG didn't impress against Sylvia.

Dan Henderson calls out Paulo Filho saying: "I don't think he has been very impressive in his last two performances since coming to the US but I think that's what not being able to use Steroids will do to you."

So one hand we have the naturals fighting in the UFC - and on the other hand we have the juiced to the grills fighters in Japan. Obviously comparing the two is completely unfair.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Fury on February 05, 2008, 04:43:30 PM
If Pride fighters haven't been impressive, why do they hold 3 of the 5 belts? What's that say about the level of ability of the UFC fighters? Not much unfortunately. When 2 mid-tier Pride fighters come over and annihilate the best in their division within their first 3 fights, then you know an organization is inferior.


Too bad, so sad Mindspin and Bluto.



I forgot that these two are renaissance men, they've done all and seen all, all while logging hour after hour bragging about it on a forum. Oh brother!!!! Love the meltdowns from you two. It's too easy!
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 04:52:32 PM
You're saying you're impressed with the performances of Shogun, Wanderlei, Soku, Werdum, Crocop, Herring? You can't possibly be. And there's a half dozen more Pride fighters that been slaughtered to add to that list.
Yet you had the highest respect of most of these fighters before they got their ass kicked in the UFC. So if the UFC is so weak, how come they beat nearly every Pride fighter that's been signed?

BTW these are the same people that knocked the shit outta your favorite fighter of all time Arona! (knocked out by Shogun, lost to Wand, knocked out by Soku!) so it's hard to take anything you say seriously.

And Nog, even though he won, you can't have been impressed with his performance either - he got his ass kicked for 3 rounds by Tim Sylvia (!)

Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: MindSpin on February 05, 2008, 04:53:10 PM
If Pride fighters haven't been impressive, why do they hold 3 of the 5 belts? What's that say about the level of ability of the UFC fighters? Not much unfortunately. When 2 mid-tier Pride fighters come over and annihilate the best in their division within their first 3 fights, then you know an organization is inferior.


Too bad, so sad Mindspin and Bluto.



I forgot that these two are renaissance men, they've done all and seen all, all while logging hour after hour bragging about it on a forum. Oh brother!!!! Love the meltdowns from you two. It's too easy!

Are you still going on about this ::)  It's just the internet man...calm down.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 04:55:02 PM
Are you still going on about this ::)  It's just the internet man...calm down.

I didn't think it was any room left in his head since I've been filling it up for the last 2 years... but apparantely he managed to squeeze you in!  :D
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Eric15210 on February 05, 2008, 04:55:22 PM
Pride is dead
all UFC fighters now  ;D
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 04:57:40 PM
Pride is dead
all UFC fighters now  ;D

Some people can't let go... they miss the juiced up Pride fighters that without the Juice can't do shit... and they've seemed to have forgot all the terrible matchups over the years and the japanese retarded fascination for Giants... good thing UFC didn't sign THOSE fighters  ;D

For years we heard that Pride was in a different league compared to the UFC... turned out they wasn't and the Pride fans had been wrong all along.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Fury on February 05, 2008, 05:02:09 PM
Some people can't let go... they miss the juiced up Pride fighters that without the Juice can't do shit... and they've seemed to have forgot all the terrible matchups over the years and the japanese retarded fascination for Giants... good thing UFC didn't sign THOSE fighters  ;D

For years we heard that Pride was in a different league compared to the UFC... turned out they wasn't and the Pride fans had been wrong all along.

You can keep crying but in the end, Pride has 3 of the 5 UFC belts!!!!!!!

You can't refute it kid. Remember that as you smash your pillow and curse God for making you 5'4 110 pounds with gout before you cry yourself to sleep tonight.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: MB_722 on February 05, 2008, 05:03:32 PM
for the [pride] fighters that have lost. seriously it isn't the end. Some have faired well some haven't one or two fights don't make a career.

Why should anyone let go of how great pride was? I'm glad I can't forget how great it was makes me cringe when I see what ufc is doing now. obviously i have to live with the ufc now.

UFC isn't perfect there is alot of room for improvement.



Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 05:04:07 PM
You can keep crying but in the end, Pride has 3 of the 5 UFC belts!!!!!!!

You can't refute it kid. Remember that as you smash your pillow and curse God for making you 5'4 110 pounds with gout before you cry yourself to sleep tonight.

And there we saw him being UNABLE to reply to my post.

OWNED.

Game, Set and Match.

His only chance to TRY winning this is by going back, re-reading my post and give a proper reply. If he can't - the ownage stands.

He's pushed into a corner  ;D
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Eric15210 on February 05, 2008, 05:06:17 PM
Nog did not beat the real UFC champ  ;)
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 05:08:15 PM
Nog did not beat the real UFC champ  ;)


True, and until he does he's not the champ IMO.

Surely the Pride fans must demand more from Nog (by many considered the 2nd best heavyweight in the world after fedor) than barely winning against Sylvia!

Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: MB_722 on February 05, 2008, 05:08:27 PM
Nog did not beat the real UFC champ  ;)


he has the belt, thats all that matters.

didnt lennox receive a vacant title? or was that rahman?
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 05, 2008, 05:17:47 PM
Randy got more tools in his toolbox. He finished Gonzaga standing. He dominated Sylvia for all 5 rounds (where as Nog had big problems with Sylvia)

Anderson did NOT make a name for himself in Pride.

You do not make a name of yourself by LOSING fights and fighting cans. Common sense to anyone but you.

wrong again blutOWNED randy has zero knockout wins he finished gonzaga with ground and pound

nog finished sylvia, randy couldn't finish sylvia even though he knocked him senseless in the first 8 seconds :)

yes anderson make a name for himself by losing in pride, ever hear of the Brooklyn Brawler? :D

E
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Fury on February 05, 2008, 05:23:00 PM
wrong again blutOWNED randy has zero knockout wins he finished gonzaga with ground and pound

nog finished sylvia, randy couldn't finish sylvia even though he knocked him senseless in the first 8 seconds :)

yes anderson make a name for himself by losing in pride, ever hear of the Brooklyn Brawler? :D

E

Hahahaha, jesus this is just getting embarrassing for Bluto. Trying to morph his arguments to his own perception, making up statistics and getting subsequently called out on them. Doesn't get any worse from the forum's biggest TUF fanboy!
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 05, 2008, 05:26:41 PM


And Nog, even though he won, you can't have been impressed with his performance either - he got his ass kicked for 3 rounds by Tim Sylvia (!)



if you ever saw a nog fight OUTSIDE OF THE UFC you would know that he always takes beatings but always has his hand raised in the end

the sylvia fight looked like a typical nog fight, he's a legend and the UFC HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP OF THE WORLD 8)

say what you want about cro cop, shogun etc

the fact is the greatest most exciting fighting organization ever has produced 3 current ufc champs 8) 8)

E
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 05:29:04 PM
wrong again blutOWNED randy has zero knockout wins he finished gonzaga with ground and pound

nog finished sylvia, randy couldn't finish sylvia even though he knocked him senseless in the first 8 seconds :)

yes anderson make a name for himself by losing in pride, ever hear of the Brooklyn Brawler? :D

E

What did you expect? For Randy to submit Sylvia? He only has four losses. Three of them by submission. Sylvia was closer to knock out Nog than he was to knock out Randy. Randy gave him a bigger beating than Nog ever did.

Gonzaga is no slouch on the ground, he's a BJJ black belt with tons of experience and won titles. Didn't stop Randy from taking him to the ground several times.

Last time Randy lost to submission was 7 years ago.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Fury on February 05, 2008, 05:31:51 PM
Hahahaha, now Bluto is making excuses to save his ass. Look kid, you got owned by Earl. Don't deny it, don't try to turn it around, you made a claim, it got completely refuted and destroyed. Live with it. I'm embarrassed for how badly you've been getting owned on here lately. Every day it's someone new ripping you apart, and you don't do anything to stop it. Have you no shame?
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 05:35:21 PM
if you ever saw a nog fight OUTSIDE OF THE UFC you would know that he always takes beatings but always has his hand raised in the end

the sylvia fight looked like a typical nog fight, he's a legend and the UFC HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP OF THE WORLD 8)

say what you want about cro cop, shogun etc

the fact is the greatest most exciting fighting organization ever has produced 3 current ufc champs 8) 8)

E

1. I know Nog can take a beating. I've seen plenty of his fights. That doesn't change the fact that he looked terrible. It sure as hell wasn't his intention to eat Sylvias fist for three rounds. And it surely wasn't his gameplan to time and time again going for the takedown and failing. It sure as hell wasn't his intention to get as close to be knocked out, that maybe he ever has been.

2. As far as I know nobody ever said that there's not fighters in Pride that can take belts in the UFC, so what's the point in stating the obvious? Like you've been right all along, but the problem is you can't find anyone that's been wrong or that disagrees with you on that. So basically you're patting yourselves on the back for having the same opinion shared by everyone.  ::)
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 05:38:14 PM
Hahahaha, now Bluto is making excuses to save his ass. Look kid, you got owned by Earl. Don't deny it, don't try to turn it around, you made a claim, it got completely refuted and destroyed. Live with it. I'm embarrassed for how badly you've been getting owned on here lately. Every day it's someone new ripping you apart, and you don't do anything to stop it. Have you no shame?

What are you talking about?
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 05, 2008, 05:39:49 PM
What did you expect? For Randy to submit Sylvia? He only has four losses. Three of them by submission. Sylvia was closer to knock out Nog than he was to knock out Randy. Randy gave him a bigger beating than Nog ever did.

Gonzaga is no slouch on the ground, he's a BJJ black belt with tons of experience and won titles. Didn't stop Randy from taking him to the ground several times.

Last time Randy lost to submission was 7 years ago.


my point is nog finished sylvia, randy couldn't do it even though tim didn't know what round it was ::)

and stop using the sherdog fighter finder for your "facts" :P

E
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on February 05, 2008, 05:43:21 PM
What are you talking about?

Bluto getting ripped apart as usual, and the only thing he can reach for to bail him out is fight finder, and he can't even use that right.  Damn it's getting sad already.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 05:43:44 PM

my point is nog finished sylvia, randy couldn't do it even though tim didn't know what round it was ::)

and stop using the sherdog fighter finder for your "facts" :P

E

But thats' a bullshit point because you're trying to say that nog is superior because he was able to finish him, but the fact is nog isnt the only one who submitted tim (if he was then there would be some merit to your point) and submissions is his achilles heel as he never been knocked out.

So you have no point.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 05, 2008, 05:51:57 PM
But thats' a bullshit point because you're trying to say that nog is superior because he was able to finish him, but the fact is nog isnt the only one who submitted tim (if he was then there would be some merit to your point) and submissions is his achilles heal as he never been knocked out.

So you have no point.

yes a submission in the 3rd round is more impressive than a 5 round lay and pray decision

what makes you think randy is superior? his 16 - 8 record haha ;D

E
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on February 05, 2008, 05:52:59 PM
Never been ripped apart on here. Not once.

I know you have though, more than anyone  ;D

NOBODY has been as brutally owned as you have, as we both know!

Who is this we, I unlike you have a pretty good grip on reality, and it's obvious you don't, I always knew you were a delusional sociopath, but your condition seems be getting so bad that you actually think you are always right and that you have never lost an argument when just about everyone on this board sees you as a moronic joke who couldn't argue his way out of a wet paper bag. 
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 05:59:23 PM
yes a submission in the 3rd round is more impressive than a 5 round lay and pray decision

what makes you think randy is superior? his 16 - 8 record haha ;D

E

Is it really? Especially considering how bad Nog performed up to that point? If Sylvia only lost twice, in 25 fights and both times by submission (meaning up to that time that's been his only weakness and only way to win against him) dominating him by something totally different (that never has been done before) for 5 rounds and winning by decision is quite impressive. Randy moving up to HW to take the fight was pretty neat too.

I think Randy has a good chance at beating Nog.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on February 05, 2008, 06:01:57 PM
Is it really? Especially considering how bad Nog performed up to that point? If Sylvia only lost twice, in 25 fights and both times by submission (meaning up to that time that's been his only weakness and only way to win against him) dominating him by something totally different (that never has been done before) for 5 rounds and winning by decision is quite impressive. Randy moving up to HW to take the fight was pretty neat too.

I think Randy has a good chance at beating Nog.

randy has been knocked out and submitted

i think it's pretty neat how nog has never been knocked out or submitted 8)

E
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on February 05, 2008, 06:09:17 PM
Is it really? Especially considering how bad Nog performed up to that point? If Sylvia only lost twice, in 25 fights and both times by submission (meaning up to that time that's been his only weakness and only way to win against him) dominating him by something totally different (that never has been done before) for 5 rounds and winning by decision is quite impressive. Randy moving up to HW to take the fight was pretty neat too.

I think Randy has a good chance at beating Nog.

So then Fedor beating up Semmy Schilt for three rounds was impressive because everyone else at that point had just been taking him down and subbing him right?  I'm just curious because you said the exact opposite a few days ago hippocrite.  
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 06:11:01 PM
randy has been knocked out and submitted

i think it's pretty neat how nog has never been knocked out or submitted 8)

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I'm not comparing the two. All I'm saying is that I haven't been very impressed by Nog's performance in the Octagon and I believe Randy has a shot.

I hope that fight will happen.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 06:13:58 PM
So then Fedor beating up Semmy Schilt for three rounds was impressive because everyone else at that point had just been taking him down and subbing him right?  I'm just curious because you said the exact opposite a few days ago hippocrite. 

Hippocrite?

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Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: MB_722 on February 05, 2008, 06:20:24 PM
I'm not comparing the two. All I'm saying is that I haven't been very impressed by Nog's performance in the Octagon and I believe Randy has a shot.

I hope that fight will happen.

randy would lose.

how many nog fights have you seen?

I don't think nog did bad at all. I miss old pride battles.

Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 05, 2008, 06:29:50 PM
randy would lose.

how many nog fights have you seen?

I don't think nog did bad at all. I miss old pride battles.



I've seen most of his fights in Pride, haven't seen his fights from Rings.

I think Nog was in trouble. Losing 2 rounds coming into the third. My bet before the fight was Nog winning though.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on February 05, 2008, 07:33:45 PM
Hippocrite?

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Caught once again putting your foot in your mouth and that's all you have to say, atta way to tuck tail like always.  If I had a nickle for every time you used a word in the wrong context or misspelled one I would be  one rich Mofo.  Like I said, everytime you touch your chubby fingers to a keyboard you contradict yourself (put your foot in your mouth). 
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 06, 2008, 07:02:32 AM
Caught once again putting your foot in your mouth and that's all you have to say, atta way to tuck tail like always.  If I had a nickle for every time you used a word in the wrong context or misspelled one I would be  one rich Mofo.  Like I said, everytime you touch your chubby fingers to a keyboard you contradict yourself (put your foot in your mouth). 

Everytime you call me fat and chubby it makes me laugh - I don't know which is worse, that you have to resort to name calling or that I tricked you into believing that the picture of that power lifter was a picture of me  ;D

Punk'd!
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on February 06, 2008, 10:26:46 AM
Everytime you call me fat and chubby it makes me laugh - I don't know which is worse, that you have to resort to name calling or that I tricked you into believing that the picture of that power lifter was a picture of me  ;D

Punk'd!


How elso could someones body look when they spend 20 hours a day on the computer and have never set foot in a gym of anykind, do the math fats.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 06, 2008, 11:16:51 AM
How elso could someones body look when they spend 20 hours a day on the computer and have never set foot in a gym of anykind, do the math fats.

Keep telling yourself that kid.

I'm off to the gym for my second workout of the day - pullups, dumbbell rows, deads and shrugs awaits!  8)
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on February 06, 2008, 04:04:00 PM
Keep telling yourself that kid.

I'm off to the gym for my second workout of the day - pullups, dumbbell rows, deads and shrugs awaits!  8)


Sure, just like you have trained with the best, met Randy Couture, Mike "the girl' Bisping, attended UFC 75, traveled the world, fought in 14 Muay Thai matches, fought in the cage for 20 years and haven't the slightest shred of knowledge or photographic evidence to back any of those lies up except a tiny piece of a corner of what is claimed to be a UFC ticket, Yeah we believe you.   If by that you mean another keyboard marathon then, yes I believe you. 
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Fury on February 06, 2008, 04:10:03 PM
Sure, just like you have trained with the best, met Randy Couture, Mike "the ####' Bisping, attended UFC 75, traveled the world, fought in 14 Muay Thai matches, fought in the cage for 20 years and haven't the slightest shred of knowledge or photographic evidence to back any of those lies up except a tiny piece of a corner of what is claimed to be a UFC ticket, Yeah we believe you.   If by that you mean another keyboard marathon then, yes I believe you. 

You forgot that in between all of this, he finds time to lift twice a day and club it up six days a week.

How much dick you figure he sucked to get his moderator position back?
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 06, 2008, 04:17:52 PM
Sure, just like you have trained with the best, met Randy Couture, Mike "the ####' Bisping, attended UFC 75, traveled the world, fought in 14 Muay Thai matches, fought in the cage for 20 years and haven't the slightest shred of knowledge or photographic evidence to back any of those lies up except a tiny piece of a corner of what is claimed to be a UFC ticket, Yeah we believe you.   If by that you mean another keyboard marathon then, yes I believe you. 

I bet you have a little logbook where you store everything I post.

Talk about being obsessed with me. You're a mess!  ;D
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 06, 2008, 04:23:20 PM
You forgot that in between all of this, he finds time to lift twice a day and club it up six days a week.

How much dick you figure he sucked to get his moderator position back?

What took you so long? A whole 6 minutes after CB's post before you appeared to support him  >:(

And where's the third guy?  ???
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on February 06, 2008, 04:35:25 PM
I bet you have a little logbook where you store everything I post.

Talk about being obsessed with me. You're a mess!  ;D

I do, It's called my mind, and only a fool would forget the outrageous lies you tell.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 06, 2008, 04:39:52 PM
I do, It's called my mind, and only a fool would forget the outrageous lies you tell.

It's called your mind. And I'm in it. Not a day goes by in your life without you thinking of me and posting about me.

A fact that can be confirmed by anyone at anytime going through your post history.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on February 06, 2008, 05:53:36 PM
It's called your mind. And I'm in it. Not a day goes by in your life without you thinking of me and posting about me.

A fact that can be confirmed by anyone at anytime going through your post history.

Just as anyone could confirm by your post history how uneducated you are on combative sports in general.  You make it point to pollute this board with midless dribble and I make it a point to shut your shit down (if somebody else hasn't beat me to it, it seems like it's become all the rage as of late).
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Voice of Doom on February 06, 2008, 06:22:23 PM
3/5 belts...less than a year...What if Gomi comes over...what if Fedor comes over...what if Barnett comes over...3/5 belts...less than a year...less than a year






...less than a year.  Imagine if Shogun, Wandy and Crocop had fought like they used to...UFC would have to change its name...to something like..............I don't know.........PRIDE!!!


Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: MB_722 on February 07, 2008, 10:43:50 AM
What took you so long? A whole 6 minutes after CB's post before you appeared to support him  >:(

And where's the third guy?  ???

LOL your name is bluto and you're calling me a stooge. come on now!

Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: Bluto on February 07, 2008, 10:50:56 AM
LOL your name is bluto and you're calling me a stooge. come on now!



I'm not calling you a stooge, I was refering to Sincitysmallguy.  ;)
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: MB_722 on February 07, 2008, 11:00:30 AM
I'm not calling you a stooge, I was refering to Sincitysmallguy.  ;)


ok then my bad  :)
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: mame09 on February 07, 2008, 06:27:38 PM
if you watched the fight between nogs and tim  you could clearly see nogs was not in fighting shape

and that he did not want to be there. if nog didnt even try hard and he won the title just imagine if he tried

to win what would of happened.
Title: Re: PRIDE FIGHTERS RULE THE UFC!!!
Post by: cht868 on February 09, 2008, 07:50:45 AM
if you watched the fight between nogs and tim  you could clearly see nogs was not in fighting shape

and that he did not want to be there. if nog didnt even try hard and he won the title just imagine if he tried

to win what would of happened.

i wouldn't say he wasn't trying hard, not in shape, probably