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Land of the free ::)
i know these skaters are an annoyance, but no Cop should talk to a child like this...
hahaha just found this:
UPDATE:A 17-year veteran of the Baltimore police
force has been suspended with pay pending an
internal investigation of his actions involving a
14-year-old skateboarder at Baltimore's Inner
Harbor.
The confrontation occurred this past summer and
was captured on a video camera by the young man's
friend.
In the video, Officer Salvatore Rivieri tells the
boy that skateboarding is illegal. The officer
becomes angry when the boy says, "I didn't do
anything wrong, dude."
Officer Rivieri is seen grabbing the skateboard
and pushing the boy to the ground.
"The police commissioner and the mayor and
the top command staff saw the video this morning
and are disappointed. The officer has been
suspended with pay, pending an internal
investigation," Sterling Clifford told
Richard Sher.
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fuckking racists. >:( >:( >:(
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Bodymore, Murderland baby! Cop has a history here.
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Videotaping police brutality should be illegal without the written consent of all parties.
And he wouldve gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those pesky kids.
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with racists, i meant the skater kids btw.
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Old news, next.
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I deal with teens all the time as a high school teacher. Sometimes you feel like doing something like that when some punk is a jackass. The bottom line is that no matter what the kid does, you have to do your absoulte best to maintain control and not lose it.You have to suck it up and be the adult in these cases and act in a calm,firm ,fair manner The cop should have simply stopped the kid and took his skateboard, end of story. I suspect the cop know he blew it on this one.
Howard
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Bodymore, Murderland baby! Cop has a history here.
Hopefully the new mayor Sheila Dickson can find a way to bring the murder count down. Because that idiot O'malley was too busy getting it on with TV reporters to do anything. Did you see that black female reporter O'amalley was "supposedly" tagging on the side, her name was Sade and a African last name. She "mysteriously" had to move to upstate NY and was "mysteriously" hit by a car, when she was "mysteriously" supposed to pregnant with O'malley's kid. And dude is married to a Baltimore County Circuit Court Judge.
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Videotaping police brutality should be illegal without the written consent of all parties.
And he wouldve gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those pesky kids.
Good irony... but too obvious ;)
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WTF, dude! He was way off the deep end.
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Hopefully the new mayor Sheila Dickson can find a way to bring the murder count down. Because that idiot O'malley was too busy getting it on with TV reporters to do anything. Did you see that black female reporter O'amalley was "supposedly" tagging on the side, her name was Sade and a African last name. She "mysteriously" had to move to upstate NY and was "mysteriously" hit by a car, when she was "mysteriously" supposed to pregnant with O'malley's kid. And dude is married to a Baltimore County Circuit Court Judge.
Sade Bederinwa i think was her name. Used to be on WBAL. I always thought that story about her getting hit by a car was suspicious. Never investigated though. But the murder count will never come down because they talk a good game but no one has the resolve to do what it takes to bring it down. Plus, there is so much corruption at the top levels of city government that they are too busy covering each others asses to deal with it.
On another note, I know Katie Curran. Not the smartest person.
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stark you're an idiot he doesn't go nuts on the kid, in fact i'd have no problem with the cops doing that. Kid should have showed some respect and not back talked simple as that.
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WTF, dude! He was way off the deep end.
the way he was talking about "I'm not your dad" he obviously has a son at home that gives no shit about him.
the little car he was driving and the stupid jacket may have played a role in his meltdown as well.
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Land of the free ::)
i know these skaters are an annoyance, but no Cop should talk to a child like this...
hahaha just found this:
UPDATE:A 17-year veteran of the Baltimore police
force has been suspended with pay pending an
internal investigation of his actions involving a
14-year-old skateboarder at Baltimore's Inner
Harbor.
The confrontation occurred this past summer and
was captured on a video camera by the young man's
friend.
In the video, Officer Salvatore Rivieri tells the
boy that skateboarding is illegal. The officer
becomes angry when the boy says, "I didn't do
anything wrong, dude."
Officer Rivieri is seen grabbing the skateboard
and pushing the boy to the ground.
"The police commissioner and the mayor and
the top command staff saw the video this morning
and are disappointed. The officer has been
suspended with pay, pending an internal
investigation," Sterling Clifford told
Richard Sher.
Stark, the Baltimore Inner Harbor cops don't play. And the kids skateboarding, A) shouldn't have been there B) should have shut the f up and answered the questions and left.
I agree he was a little heavy handed, but some kids need that, he said he didn't have a father, that is the way father would disciplined a punkass like him. Better to be disciplined like that when your younger than to end up taken dicks in the ass in Jail.
I have seen worse, and it all had to do with somebody turning there back on a officer when he asked him a question. Failing to obey an officer is the charge.
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I deal with teens all the time as a high school teacher. Sometimes you feel like doing something like that when some punk is a jackass. The bottom line is that no matter what the kid does, you have to do your absoulte best to maintain control and not lose it.You have to suck it up and be the adult in these cases and act in a calm,firm ,fair manner The cop should have simply stopped the kid and took his skateboard, end of story. I suspect the cop know he blew it on this one.
Howard
this guy did not know he blew it because he's done it over and over again. but you are right about how to handle it--calm assertiveness always wins.
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Stark, the Baltimore Inner Harbor cops don't play. And the kids skateboarding, A) shouldn't have been there B) should have shut the f up and answered the questions and left.
I agree he was a little heavy handed, but some kids need that, he said he didn't have a father, that is the way father would disciplined a punkass like him. Better to be disciplined like that when your younger than to end up taken dicks in the ass in Jail.
I have seen worse, and it all had to do with somebody turning there back on a officer when he asked him a question. Failing to obey an officer is the charge.
Look... and I know I start something here that will eventualy get out of hand completly but,
a) he had not right to say to him that he will get killed one day
b) that he will serve time in juvenile if he doesn't shut up
c) The kid was not aggressive or defensive at all
d) The cop had obviously other issues and looked for a way to let of steam.
Police men (and I know this is not possible since we are all humans) should never ever do what he just did, let personal feeling play a roll in his decision and how he handled the situation.
He knows he fucked up at the end when he made them sit down and nearly got nice to them..
He's fucked now...
Good.
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Stark, the Baltimore Inner Harbor cops don't play. And the kids skateboarding, A) shouldn't have been there B) should have shut the f up and answered the questions and left.
I agree he was a little heavy handed, but some kids need that, he said he didn't have a father, that is the way father would disciplined a punkass like him. Better to be disciplined like that when your younger than to end up taken dicks in the ass in Jail.
I have seen worse, and it all had to do with somebody turning there back on a officer when he asked him a question. Failing to obey an officer is the charge.
Parker is right about the attitude of the Inner Harbor cops. They take no shit and keep a tight reign because of the tax dollars that the Harbor brings to the city. If these nitwits were allowed to skateboard all over the place and otherwise engage in disruptive behavior, it would run out money spending tourists
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Parker is right about the attitude of the Inner Harbor cops. They take no shit and keep a tight reign because of the tax dollars that the Harbor brings to the city. If these nitwits were allowed to skateboard all over the place and otherwise engage in disruptive behavior, it would run out money spending tourists
Fuck yeah tell them to get lost, but not like that... it's embarrassing, they are after all only kids.
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Fuck yeah tell them to get lost, but not like that... it's embarrassing, they are after all only kids.
I agree it is embarassing. Hell that's an understatement. But those guys down there do not take shit from anyone. They keep order. This is the same type of policing that got NYC's crime rate down. It all starts with the minor shit.
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I agree it is embarassing. Hell that's an understatement. But those guys down there do not take shit from anyone. They keep order. This is the same type of policing that got NYC's crime rate down. It all starts with the minor shit.
What will break his neck is the fact that he touched the kid.
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What will break his neck is the fact that he touched the kid.
no doubt about that
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The cop should have tased everyone.
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For real, that guy should be fired. He has no business acting that way or putting his hands on that kid just for calling him "dude" which is what the "cop" seems to find so offensive.
Think about this: If this "cop" gets THIS ANGRY and behaves THIS INAPPROPRIATELY over a 12-year old skateboarder calling him "dude", just imagine how off his chain and aggressive he would get over something big. This guy is a TICKING TIME BOMB waiting to EXPLODE and HURT SOMEBODY. Pull his badge now and whatever you do, DON'T GIVE HIM A GUN!
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taz the little bastards
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For real, that guy should be fired. He has no business acting that way or putting his hands on that kid just for calling him "dude" which is what the "cop" seems to find so offensive.
Think about this: If this "cop" gets THIS ANGRY and behaves THIS INAPPROPRIATELY over a 12-year old skateboarder calling him "dude", just imagine how off his chain and aggressive he would get over something big. This guy is a TICKING TIME BOMB waiting to EXPLODE and HURT SOMEBODY. Pull his badge now and whatever you do, DON'T GIVE HIM A GUN!
Excellent point albeit one that will fall on deaf ears. Remember that cops by and large have this macho attitude not unlike this guy. They are supervised by guys who made their mark by having a tough street cred. So the attitude is fostered from above. The ONLY reason that this guy will be fired is that it was caught on tape.
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For real, that guy should be fired. He has no business acting that way or putting his hands on that kid just for calling him "dude" which is what the "cop" seems to find so offensive.
Think about this: If this "cop" gets THIS ANGRY and behaves THIS INAPPROPRIATELY over a 12-year old skateboarder calling him "dude", just imagine how off his chain and aggressive he would get over something big. This guy is a TICKING TIME BOMB waiting to EXPLODE and HURT SOMEBODY. Pull his badge now and whatever you do, DON'T GIVE HIM A GUN!
Exactly!!!
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Fuck those skate rats the cop should have emptied his .45
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For real, that guy should be fired. He has no business acting that way or putting his hands on that kid just for calling him "dude" which is what the "cop" seems to find so offensive.
Think about this: If this "cop" gets THIS ANGRY and behaves THIS INAPPROPRIATELY over a 12-year old skateboarder calling him "dude", just imagine how off his chain and aggressive he would get over something big. This guy is a TICKING TIME BOMB waiting to EXPLODE and HURT SOMEBODY. Pull his badge now and whatever you do, DON'T GIVE HIM A GUN!
Amen to that, brutha!
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I was hoping for some blood at the end of the vid
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I was hoping for some blood at the end of the vid
are you saying that you wanted to see the cop give the kid a wood shampoo?
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Bullets flying and kids dying :o
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No matter how much of a punk the kid is, you can't say it's okay, EVER.
because the moment you give the cop the power to determine which 'smart mouth' should be shoved down, you have a bigger problem. The cop can now shove down 12, 10, 8, and 6 year olds who talk back. The cop can now shove down 60, 70, 80, and 90 year olds who talk back.
The moment you okay it for one incident (even if the kid is a douchebag) the minute you have a police state where ANYONE can be beaten at ANY TIME for ANYTHING.
This cop should have locked the kid up on whatever law he was breaking - disturbing the peace, etc. Spending a night in juvenile hall getting shoved around might keep the kid from coming back to that park.
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Squadfather! Dont EVER talk to my son that way again! ;D
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No matter how much of a punk the kid is, you can't say it's okay, EVER.
because the moment you give the cop the power to determine which 'smart mouth' should be shoved down, you have a bigger problem. The cop can now shove down 12, 10, 8, and 6 year olds who talk back. The cop can now shove down 60, 70, 80, and 90 year olds who talk back.
The moment you okay it for one incident (even if the kid is a douchebag) the minute you have a police state where ANYONE can be beaten at ANY TIME for ANYTHING.
This cop should have locked the kid up on whatever law he was breaking - disturbing the peace, etc. Spending a night in juvenile hall getting shoved around might keep the kid from coming back to that park.
DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I urgently feel the need to smack the shit out of you... just this once.
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Try bitch ;D don't think you'd be up for the job once we got face to face.
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I urgently feel the need to smack the shit out of you... just this once.
Try bitch ;D don't think you'd be up for the job once we got face to face.
MONSTER KEYBOARD WARRIORS WHO SHADOWBOX BETWEEN SETS
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Funny how you live in another country and report on what goes on in the states.
Have you ever been to Baltimore? Know the kinds of scum that live there?
And btw, one isolated incident of police brutality doesn't make all cops bad. Looks like you cage fighting billionaires get upset when asked to show a license or something.. As if it's a violation of your civil rights.
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lets mess with the kid who is obviously staying out of trouble go mess with the brotha's on the corner selling crack and throw them to the ground tough guy...punk ass cop
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Funny how you live in another country and report on what goes on in the states.
Have you ever been to Baltimore? Know the kinds of scum that live there?
And btw, one isolated incident of police brutality doesn't make all cops bad. Looks like you cage fighting billionaires get upset when asked to show a license or something.. As if it's a violation of your civil rights.
::)
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lets mess with the kid who is obviously staying out of trouble go mess with the brotha's on the corner selling crack and throw them to the ground tough guy...punk ass cop
As long as they don't sell it around the Inner Harbor and the CBD, they don't care what happens. They call the west side of the city the "Wild West" for a reason.
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Videotaping police brutality should be illegal without the written consent of all parties.
And he wouldve gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those pesky kids.
LOL!!! ;D
I like the counter Orwellian revolution that has come with the advent of small and portable cameras. I look at it as a check on the authoritarian power of the state. If everyone is watching everyone, everyone will be cautious before doing the kind of thing shown in the video here.
Although my lawyer has trained me thoroughly on how to deal with bad cops, I would prefer to just avoid them outright! Having been both in the military for years and worked as a bouncer, I see that numerous people who get these types of jobs were either bullies or bullied and as one smart man once said - they use their badge (or uniform/shirt) as both a sword and a shield.
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The Cop should be fired and recive anger mangement as well.
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Fire the cop and give him time for assult... the kid was skateboarding for chissake... not holding an old lady up at gun-point.
They should put the cop in general population and tell everyone he's doing time for roughing up a 14 year old 80 pound kid.
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The cop should have emptied his entire clip in the kids head at point blank range.
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There's only ONE APPROPRIATE PENALTY for that cop and it's called:
5 Minutes in the CAGE with KIMBO SLICE!
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There's only ONE APPROPRIATE PENALTY for that cop and it's called:
5 Minutes in the CAGE with KIMBO SLICE!
3 0 5 Killa
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He struck again! :o
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I dont see any issue what what the cop did. The dumb ass should have shut his mouth and not called the cop dude after he made it clear that he was not going to put up with it. Should have arrested him for resisting arrest and taken him back to his single mother.
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I dont see any issue what what the cop did. The dumb ass should have shut his mouth and not called the cop dude after he made it clear that he was not going to put up with it. Should have arrested him for resisting arrest and taken him back to his single mother.
wow, you sure are tough mister.
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friggin skater fags
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I dont see any issue what what the cop did. The dumb ass should have shut his mouth and not called the cop dude after he made it clear that he was not going to put up with it. Should have arrested him for resisting arrest and taken him back to his single mother.
Correct...obviously a poor upbringing...not one ounce of respect. And no...the cop does NOT have to earn the kid's respect.
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The kid just sat there like the little bitch that he is. Now seriously, kids that age, especially boys, are unbearable little shits. A man should never hit a boy that age, but there was no aggression on the part of the officer, so censoring him was the wrong move. It sends kids the message that they can disrespect not only their parents and teachers but even a freakin' police officer, and he can't even respond to the disrespect.
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Assault laws are to protect people from bullies, not so that every twerp, punk and bitch can say whatever they want to anyone without fear of repercussion.
A kid gets smart with me, he gets slapped around. It's as simple as that.
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Cops... biggest street gang in the country. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Here's a tip- They ain't on your side.
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The kid just sat there like the little bitch that he is. Now seriously, kids that age, especially boys, are unbearable little shits. A man should never hit a boy that age, but there was no aggression on the part of the officer, so censoring him was the wrong move. It sends kids the message that they can disrespect not only their parents and teachers but even a freakin' police officer, and he can't even respond to the disrespect.
Correct.
Again, there is a severe dearth of respect amongst youth today.
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No matter how much of a punk the kid is, you can't say it's okay, EVER.
because the moment you give the cop the power to determine which 'smart mouth' should be shoved down, you have a bigger problem. The cop can now shove down 12, 10, 8, and 6 year olds who talk back. The cop can now shove down 60, 70, 80, and 90 year olds who talk back.
The moment you okay it for one incident (even if the kid is a douchebag) the minute you have a police state where ANYONE can be beaten at ANY TIME for ANYTHING.
This cop should have locked the kid up on whatever law he was breaking - disturbing the peace, etc. Spending a night in juvenile hall getting shoved around might keep the kid from coming back to that park.
I agree with you in principle and I don't think anyone can say the cop didn't cross the line and should not be punished, etc. As a teacher, cop or any other authority figure, you must suck it up and deal with a-holes in a calm, firm manner.
Now , from what I know, the kid dodn't get anything hurt but his pride. Down deep a lot of us quietly cheer this cop for grabbing that disrespectful punk LOL.
The kid realizes that even if has rights a cop (or other adult) can still go postal on him or his friends now .
The cop now knows that he is in big trouble if he acts like a wildman and gtes out of control.
All in all I think they both learned a valuable lesson.
Howard
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cop did nothing wrong
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fuck the police >:(
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fuck the police >:(
Fuck the skaters and fuck the police. Police= glorified ticket writers in my neighborhood.
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fuck the police >:(
How's the polices profiling working out for you?
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fuck the police >:(
No, fuck you and your Colt 45 drinking demographic.
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No, fuck you and your Colt 45 drinking demographic.
Racist.
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Cops are among the biggest law breakers out there. Give a guy a gun and a badge and they think they are god. Fuck them all.
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hahaa cage fighting billionaires think that they're above following simple instructions.
I don't agree with what the cop did, but I do think that if you show a certain amount of cheek to a cop by being rude, then you ought to pay for it.
There are bad cops, but most cops do their job pretty well and keep ordinary citizens safe. Simply having cops around deters crime. If you need proof, then look at how an increased police force cleaned up NYC and made it a much better city. However, no one looks at that positive. They'd rather take up issue over some black dude who was high on PCP and running a muck and getting what was coming to him. ::)
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I hate them both. I hate cheeky, disrespecting little snot noses and I hate fat, donut munching cops who use their power to make themselves feel a little less unimportant than they know they are.
Best result would be the kid beaten and raped and the policeman jailed for it and beaten and raped.
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I hate them both. I hate cheeky, disrespecting little snot noses and I hate fat, donut munching cops who use their power to make themselves feel a little less unimportant than they know they are.
Best result would be the kid beaten and raped and the policeman jailed for it and beaten and raped.
If I am not mistaken, I believe this form of justice went out of fashion with the reign of Pharoh Ramses.
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If I am not mistaken, I believe this form of justice went out of fashion with the reign of Pharoh Ramses.
Hey Howie is the ex wife available for some anal?
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lets mess with the kid who is obviously staying out of trouble go mess with the brotha's on the corner selling crack and throw them to the ground tough guy...punk ass cop
Ha, have you ever heard of the infamous Block? It used to be several blocks long of strip clubs and porno stores. Now it is just one block of it, and there is one of the Police stations right there. Corruption...Nah. ::) But you don't do shit like that at the Inner Harbor, let alone spit. I was surprised of few number of people, if any who have fallen in the Harbor. That is the Crown Jewel of Baltimore and they enforce the law with swift Nazi discipline.
And we don't know if the kid was told before not to skateboard, or if he had a prior chance. We only saw what the kid with the camera taped.
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I dont see any issue what what the cop did. The dumb ass should have shut his mouth and not called the cop dude after he made it clear that he was not going to put up with it. Should have arrested him for resisting arrest and taken him back to his single mother.
Police conduct is a delicate balance of multiple interests, but the resistance to escalating force in a situation such as the one seen in the video simply must be preserved. Police have to escalate force as the situation asks for it - in the situation above it simply did not apply. What could that kid have done to him? Also it is not anyone's obligation to call a cop "Sir". If I were to get pulled over for a reason that I knew was my fault, I would comply and be polite, but ultimately shut my mouth, and not give my up my rights. If I was being bullied or harassed by a police officer, I would escalate the force as per necessary to protect myself if I felt I was in immediate danger. Who wouldn't?
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Police conduct is a delicate balance of multiple interests, but the resistance to escalating force in a situation such as the one seen in the video simply must be preserved. Police have to escalate force as the situation asks for it - in the situation above it simply did not apply. What could that kid have done to him? Also it is not anyone's obligation to call a cop "Sir". If I were to get pulled over for a reason that I knew was my fault, I would comply and be polite, but ultimately shut my mouth, and not give my up my rights. If I was being bullied or harassed by a police officer, I would escalate the force as per necessary to protect myself if I felt I was in immediate danger. Who wouldn't?
There was no escalating force. All he did was raise his voice at the boy, something that was completely appropriate given the circumstances. Escalating froce would be for him to first slap the kid in the face to make him shut up, then beat him with the police stick, then shoot him in the leg and finally killing him. A police officer raising his voice to a boy who's disrespecting him is the best way to make the kid respect the authority of someone who represents the law without harming the child. Would you continue to tell him to stop skating in a polite, soft voice even after he told you repeatedly to fuck off? Obviously hitting the child is out of the question, so yelling at him and telling him to shut up is the only way to make him respect the authority of the law without harming him.
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There was no escalating force. All he did was raise his voice at the boy, something that was completely appropriate given the circumstances. Escalating froce would be for him to first slap the kid in the face to make him shut up, then beat him with the police stick, then shoot him in the leg and finally killing him. A police officer raising his voice to a boy who's disrespecting him is the best way to make the kid respect the authority of someone who represents the law without harming the child. Would you continue to tell him to stop skating in a polite, soft voice even after he told you repeatedly to fuck off? Obviously hitting the child is out of the question, so yelling at him and telling him to shut up is the only way to make him respect the authority of the law without harming him.
First of all my ignorant friend there are many escalations of force and the first step in the force triangle is verbal judo aka verbal manipulation and as mattc very nicely pointed out the kid needed to just shut up and comply. Number two the kid never told the cop to fuck off he just kept disrespecting the cop by saying dude and I honestly bet that the kid was already so nervous that the dude thing was just an accident. Honestly what the cop did and how he reacted was inappropriate but to look at it from the cops point of view he didnt know if the kid had a weapon (not to include his skateboard)or not and he was outnumbered so in that manner his best bet is to come in stern and hard with verbal manipulation but after that there was obviously no apparent threat from any of the kids he shouldve known to de-escalate the situation just as fast as he escalated it. But as a society we have to entrust cops to make this judgement call, and knowone is perfect so there will always be cops getting in trouble for stuff like this where they just exhibited poor judgement.
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There was no escalating force. All he did was raise his voice at the boy, something that was completely appropriate given the circumstances. Escalating froce would be for him to first slap the kid in the face to make him shut up, then beat him with the police stick, then shoot him in the leg and finally killing him. A police officer raising his voice to a boy who's disrespecting him is the best way to make the kid respect the authority of someone who represents the law without harming the child. Would you continue to tell him to stop skating in a polite, soft voice even after he told you repeatedly to fuck off? Obviously hitting the child is out of the question, so yelling at him and telling him to shut up is the only way to make him respect the authority of the law without harming him.
The kid never told him to fuck off, and i agree with that the whole referring him to as "dude" and "man" was a nervous reaction. Thats what kids their age say all the time, he was nervous and he probably didn't even realise that someone would take that as disrespect. He was 12 years old and skateboarding, the cop is obviously an insecure prick and wanted to feel like a big man about himself. Think about all the shit that happens in the world, you think its ok for a cop to wrestle a 12 year old to the ground and yell in his face for skateboarding and the kid not realising he was disrespecting him by calling him dude? ??? ::)
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I think some people are commenting without watching the entire video. The cop can yell and have a meltdown over an innocuous "dude" comment all he wants, but the moment he puts his hands on the kid (without any provocation or need for "self-defense"), he has STEPPED OVER THE LINE. If that kid is not under arrest, the cop has no more right to tackle him than he does to tackle any of us because he doesn't like the way we look, talk, or dress.
Like many cops, that FATASS is nothing more than a BULLY WITH A BADGE. After he gets fired, hopefully the next time he mouths off to some skateboarders, he'll catch a skateboard to the teeth, a la the movie 'KIDS'.
RIP HAROLD
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I deal with teens all the time as a high school teacher. Sometimes you feel like doing something like that when some punk is a jackass. The bottom line is that no matter what the kid does, you have to do your absoulte best to maintain control and not lose it.You have to suck it up and be the adult in these cases and act in a calm,firm ,fair manner The cop should have simply stopped the kid and took his skateboard, end of story. I suspect the cop know he blew it on this one.
Howard
So if you are a high school teacher who is teaching your class while you are on here all day?
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First of all my ignorant friend there are many escalations of force and the first step in the force triangle is verbal judo aka verbal manipulation and as mattc very nicely pointed out the kid needed to just shut up and comply. Number two the kid never told the cop to fuck off he just kept disrespecting the cop by saying dude and I honestly bet that the kid was already so nervous that the dude thing was just an accident. Honestly what the cop did and how he reacted was inappropriate but to look at it from the cops point of view he didnt know if the kid had a weapon (not to include his skateboard)or not and he was outnumbered so in that manner his best bet is to come in stern and hard with verbal manipulation but after that there was obviously no apparent threat from any of the kids he shouldve known to de-escalate the situation just as fast as he escalated it. But as a society we have to entrust cops to make this judgement call, and knowone is perfect so there will always be cops getting in trouble for stuff like this where they just exhibited poor judgement.
You are an idiot. I said that the kid told him to fuck off metaphorically. The cop told him to shut up and sit down, and he kept talking and standing up. That is metaphorically telling the cop to fuck off, my friend with poor interpretation skills of the English language.
Secondly, there was no escalation of force except that he first asked politely for the kid to stop skating and then he yelled at him to shut up and sit down. That's not escalating force by any means. If it were a man and not a boy ignoring the cop like that, you can bet your ass he would have beat the guy with the stick, put him in hand-cuffs and taken him to jail. You try ignoring the orders of a cop like that and you'll see what "escalating force" really means. He only spared him because he was a boy and not a man.
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Cops like this idiot are the reason things like this happen :'(
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"Oh, don't call me dude"
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With key recruitments like that, the crime rate of Baltimore is bound to drop dramatically.
I can totally see this man head... amazing crime investigations in the future.
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Don't they have ANYTHING better to do, seriously?
I guess they just don't.
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"I have no dad" no shit ::)
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In my past I've worked with 7th - 12th grade kids and there
is a certain way to enforce discipline that works.
I think what this cop did was more criminal than the kids riding
their skateboards. The cop just seemed like some bully picking
on a 14 year old kid. I wonder how tough this guy would be against
your normal 6 foot tall man. I think the cop was way out of line and abusing his power.
I think the kid was kinda in shock because he knew that what was happening
wasn't right. I hope the cop gets what he deserves.
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In my past I've worked with 7th - 12th grade kids and there
is a certain way to enforce discipline that works.
I think what this cop did was more criminal than the kids riding
their skateboards.
You don't call a cop "dude" and continue to skateboard in a public area where skateboarding is forbidden after the cop tells you to quit. That is called breaking the law and having contempt for a police officer. Those are two fellonies the kid committed right there. What the cop did was not excessive by any means. If it were a man skateboarding and the guy continued after the cop told him to quit, the cop would forcefully restrain the guy and take him arrested. The cop went easy on the boy exactly because he's a boy and not a grown man
The cop just seemed like some bully picking
on a 14 year old kid.
No, he was a police officer enforcing the law. Everyone has to obey the law, including kids. What was he supposed to do, dude? Continue to tell the kid to stop skateboarding after the kid demeaned him by ignoring him? I don't know if you are aware of this, but the cop in that situation had the authority to forcefully restrain him and take him arrested. But instead, he only yelled at the boy and told him to sit down. When you are breaking the law, like that kid was, a police officer has authority to forcefully restrain and arrest you, and yet he didn't do that to the boy.
I wonder how tough this guy would be against
your normal 6 foot tall man.
First of all, the average height for males is 5'10. 6' is the height for males in countries like Sweden and Holland. Secondly, I would say that he would be pretty tough against any 6' guys, considering that he's carrying a gun, has the authority to use it, and can call reinforcements if needed.
I think the cop was way out of line and abusing his power.
I think the kid was kinda in shock because he knew that what was happening
wasn't right. I hope the cop gets what he deserves.
Trust me buddy: if that 14 year old were 24, the cop would have beat the shit out of the guy after he ignored his order, and the cop would be in his right because the guy showed contempt for a police officer.
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You don't call a cop "dude" and continue to skateboard in a public area where skateboarding is forbidden after the cop tells you to quit. That is called breaking the law and having contempt for a police officer. Those are two fellonies the kid committed right there. What the cop did was not excessive by any means. If it were a man skateboarding and the guy continued after the cop told him to quit, the cop would forcefully restrain the guy and take him arrested. The cop went easy on the boy exactly because he's a boy and not a grown man
No, he was a police officer enforcing the law. Everyone has to obey the law, including kids. What was he supposed to do, dude? Continue to tell the kid to stop skateboarding after the kid demeaned him by ignoring him? I don't know if you are aware of this, but the cop in that situation had the authority to forcefully restrain him and take him arrested. But instead, he only yelled at the boy and told him to sit down. When you are breaking the law, like that kid was, a police officer has authority to forcefully restrain and arrest you, and yet he didn't do that to the boy.
First of all, the average height for males is 5'10. 6' is the height for males in countries like Sweden and Holland. Secondly, I would say that he would be pretty tough against any 6' guys, considering that he's carrying a gun, has the authority to use it, and can call reinforcements if needed.
Trust me buddy: if that 14 year old were 24, the cop would have beat the shit out of the guy after he ignored his order, and the cop would be in his right because the guy showed contempt for a police officer.
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If this freak saw some kids having a snow ball fight hed probably empty his clip into a crowd and call for swat team backup. ;D
What do you think this guys blood pressure is ? Hes like a fatter angrier Barney Fife
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Respect goes to the cop!!!
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Trust me buddy: if that 14 year old were 24, the cop would have beat the shit out of the guy after he ignored his order, and the cop would be in his right because the guy showed contempt for a police officer.
Did you get bullied as a kid?
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Did you get bullied as a kid?
What makes you think that?
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This just in... pigs suck.
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What makes you think that?
That you considers a police officer to be in his right "getting back" at skateboarding kids calling him "dude".
Dunno, just get that feeling.
Am I right?
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You don't call a cop "dude" and continue to skateboard in a public area where skateboarding is forbidden after the cop tells you to quit. That is called breaking the law and having contempt for a police officer. Those are two fellonies the kid committed right there. What the cop did was not excessive by any means. If it were a man skateboarding and the guy continued after the cop told him to quit, the cop would forcefully restrain the guy and take him arrested. The cop went easy on the boy exactly because he's a boy and not a grown man
No, he was a police officer enforcing the law. Everyone has to obey the law, including kids. What was he supposed to do, dude? Continue to tell the kid to stop skateboarding after the kid demeaned him by ignoring him? I don't know if you are aware of this, but the cop in that situation had the authority to forcefully restrain him and take him arrested. But instead, he only yelled at the boy and told him to sit down. When you are breaking the law, like that kid was, a police officer has authority to forcefully restrain and arrest you, and yet he didn't do that to the boy.
First of all, the average height for males is 5'10. 6' is the height for males in countries like Sweden and Holland. Secondly, I would say that he would be pretty tough against any 6' guys, considering that he's carrying a gun, has the authority to use it, and can call reinforcements if needed.
Trust me buddy: if that 14 year old were 24, the cop would have beat the shit out of the guy after he ignored his order, and the cop would be in his right because the guy showed contempt for a police officer.
What constitutes "Beating the shit out of the guy"?
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That you considers a police officer to be in his right "getting back" at skateboarding kids calling him "dude".
Dunno, just get that feeling.
Am I right?
He was not only getting back at the kid for calling him dude, which is disrespectful language towards a police officer and a fellony in itself(contempt for a law enforcement agent), but also for disrespecting the order the officer gave him to stop skating in a public place. Disobeying an order from a cop is contempt, and he can arrest the guy who disobeyed it. In fact, the cop could have arrested him without even warning him to stop, since he was breaking the law. Why can't you people understand that the officer went easy on the kid? Again, he could have arrested the kid for skating there, and he could have arrested and beated the kid after he gave him the order to stop skating and he continued. You may not like this, and I'm not giving you my opinion, but what is stated in law.
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He was not only getting back at the kid for calling him dude, which is disrespectful language towards a police officer and a fellony in itself(contempt for a law enforcement agent), but also for disrespecting the order the officer gave him to stop skating in a public place. Disobeying an order from a cop is contempt, and he can arrest the guy who disobeyed it. In fact, the cop could have arrested him without even warning him to stop, since he was breaking the law. Why can't you people understand that the officer went easy on the kid? Again, he could have arrested the kid for skating there, and he could have arrested and beated the kid after he gave him the order to stop skating and he continued. You may not like this, and I'm not giving you my opinion, but what is stated in law.
You sir, are a MORON.
I've underlined the INACCURATE portions of your post. Otherwise, excellent work. The DA's office needs more people like you!
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I would have taken my glock outta my holster and shown that little hippy who's boss. ::) ;D
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calling a cop dude...that is NOT ILLEGAL...and it sure as hell does NOT give them a right to physically abuse you. That is BS. That is a FELONY, and the Cop should be FIRED, and then put into PRISON.
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You are an idiot. I said that the kid told him to fuck off metaphorically. The cop told him to shut up and sit down, and he kept talking and standing up. That is metaphorically telling the cop to fuck off, my friend with poor interpretation skills of the English language.
Secondly, there was no escalation of force except that he first asked politely for the kid to stop skating and then he yelled at him to shut up and sit down. That's not escalating force by any means. If it were a man and not a boy ignoring the cop like that, you can bet your ass he would have beat the guy with the stick, put him in hand-cuffs and taken him to jail. You try ignoring the orders of a cop like that and you'll see what "escalating force" really means. He only spared him because he was a boy and not a man.
hey man first off you are wrong know matter what for one thing you cant tell an officer of the law to fuckoff metaphorically speaking or not and second off is contempt towards a police officer as well as skating where he wasnt supposed to be both of which the cop could have arrested and brought in for...and i have a question for you oh so self proacclaimed wise one who knows about escalation of force what is the three things of the Use of Force Model is well I will tell you they are
1. Subject Action Categories
2. Risk Perception Categories
3. Officer Response Categories
I know this because i am a cop (in the military MP) who deals with the huge burden of having every decision i make inspected to the fullest degree every day to ensure i havent abused my authority so when you can talk of a point of experience then i will further my arguement with you until then you really are just talking out of your ass
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hey man first off you are wrong know matter what for one thing you cant tell an officer of the law to fuckoff metaphorically speaking or not and second off is contempt towards a police officer as well as skating where he wasnt supposed to be both of which the cop could have arrested and brought in for...and i have a question for you oh so self proacclaimed wise one who knows about escalation of force what is the three things of the Use of Force Model is well I will tell you they are
1. Subject Action Categories
2. Risk Perception Categories
3. Officer Response Categories
I know this because i am a cop (in the military MP) who deals with the huge burden of having every decision i make inspected to the fullest degree every day to ensure i havent abused my authority so when you can talk of a point of experience then i will further my arguement with you until then you really are just talking out of your ass
ngm laying down a massive pwnage.
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You sir, are a MORON.
You are confusing me for someone who ares about your opinion. Hope this helps.
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ngm laying down a massive pwnage.
Oooooooooooooooooh....I'm so pwn4d. I guess a guy in the military police qualifies as a jurist, huh?
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Oooooooooooooooooh....I'm so pwn4d. I guess a guy in the military police qualifies as a jurist, huh?
One day he may be on your jury......."Lungcancerman"
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One day he may be on your jury......."Lungcancerman"
Ha ha ha ha ha...I said "jurist". As in "scholar in jurisprudence". The fact that he's a cop is irrelevant, since cops don't make the law and know little of it. An advocate, judge or jurist can appeal to his authority to win an argument on such matters, but not a police officer.
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Ha ha ha ha ha...I said "jurist". As in "scholar in jurisprudence". The fact that he's a cop is irrelevant, since cops don't make the law and know little of it. An advocate, judge or jurist can appeal to his authority to win an argument on such matters, but not a police officer.
How do cops know little of the law? How do they enforce the laws they know little of? Why wouldn't they know more of the law? What is your profession to know more than the cops about the law? Are you a lawmaker? Or another internet jeenius?
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I know it is "not right" to wish death on a piece of shit like that but I do :)
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Nothing worse than a short fat east-coast guido cop. NOTHING!
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haha, That cop seems really satisfied in life...haha
Complete Misery ;D
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What will break his neck is the fact that he touched the kid.
yep. I normally speak out about a COP being out of line...but not this time. Other than grabbing the kid to take his skateboard I don't see where he did anything wrong. I am not saying I think he was wrong for grabbing him, I am saying that will be what gets him in trouble. I hate kids that age by the way.
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yep. I normally speak out about a COP being out of line...but not this time. Other than grabbing the kid to take his skateboard I don't see where he did anything wrong. I am not saying I think he was wrong for grabbing him, I am saying that will be what gets him in trouble. I hate kids that age by the way.
It's not about the kids, it's about the fact this particular cop has a serious anger management problem, and a lot of us don't want a guy like that running around in public with a badge and a gun.
Here's another incident involving your hero:
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yep. I normally speak out about a COP being out of line...but not this time. Other than grabbing the kid to take his skateboard I don't see where he did anything wrong. I am not saying I think he was wrong for grabbing him, I am saying that will be what gets him in trouble. I hate kids that age by the way.
If that guy was a civilian doing that on the street he'd be taken into custody for public nuisance, assault and threatening behaviour.
He'd be nailed on a number of things.
In the second video he quite clearly damages property, he also once again, goes insanely mad and definitely needs to be put in jail for public nuisance and threatening behaviour to cool down.
If I were either of those two people in those videos I would sue to make sure that money changes hands, if only to make sure that this shithead loses his job so the blame can be very easily dispatched.
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How do cops know little of the law? How do they enforce the laws they know little of? Why wouldn't they know more of the law? What is your profession to know more than the cops about the law? Are you a lawmaker? Or another internet jeenius?
If cops knew so much about the law, then they would be allowed to dispense justice, now wouldn't they? The fact that they don't is exactly the reason why we have judges to interpret the law and dispense justice. And police officers only know when a fellony is being committed. They don't know the penalties, the legal procedures involved in judging and condemning the felon, what elements can mitigate or aggravate a felon's penalty, ad infinitum. You talk about cops as if they were Constitutional scholars, when in reality most only have a high school diploma. ;)
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I could see myself busting some skulls if I was a cop.
Everybody has a fucking dumb ass excuse to break the law. That would get old to me.
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If cops knew so much about the law, then they would be allowed to dispense justice, now wouldn't they? The fact that they don't is exactly the reason why we have judges to interpret the law and dispense justice. And police officers only know when a fellony is being committed. They don't know the penalties, the legal procedures involved in judging and condemning the felon, what elements can mitigate or aggravate a felon's penalty, ad infinitum. You talk about cops as if they were Constitutional scholars, when in reality most only have a high school diploma. ;)
And you talk as if you have experience in any of things your talking about when reality is the only thing you MIGHT have experience in is seving some god damn jury duty or some shit and maybe your read some fucking hardy boys and fucking think you have a better understanding of the law then i do? get real and to claim that we don't know the penalties for the felonies that we as part of our job are supposd ot know is ridiculous becuase that again is where the police officeres discretion comes in because if we didnt know anything as you say then a cop would be arresting every single little punk that skateboards and talks back but being that we do have discretion and being that we are able to determine whats worth it and whats not just like in the end of the video the cop was like yea call your mom and ill explain to her what happen....now im not completing condoning this cop's actions but i dont think he should be fried for them either...
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It's not about the kids, it's about the fact this particular cop has a serious anger management problem, and a lot of us don't want a guy like that running around in public with a badge and a gun.
Here's another incident involving your hero:
nobody said he was my hero. He acted like an asshole,ALMOST ALL COPS DO THAT, but aside from wrestling the kid around and taking his board he didn't do anything wrong. I don't want a guy like that running around either..I simply commented on his actions in that video.