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Title: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: dario73 on February 25, 2008, 08:42:58 AM
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Supposedly, it was some rogue volunteer that circulated the photo. Right.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Rimbaud on February 25, 2008, 08:44:50 AM
All drugs.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: The Coach on February 25, 2008, 09:03:15 AM
Well......neither have a platform to run on so they might as well bash each other.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 25, 2008, 09:38:07 AM
What's wrong with this?  I hate how these political fucks use religion as a bases of their campaigns.  I'm not voting for the fucking popeship here.  I want a politician that won't jack my taxes and fuck up this country.  I couldn't give a rat's ass if they were muslim, buddhist or even jewish.  Actually, I take back that last one.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2008, 09:44:37 AM
McCain today in Ohio: US presence in iraq to be ending "soon", and that Iraqi forces will be used to manage the insurgency.

This directly contradicts his statement that we'll be there a hundred years.
He just made the statement, so it's not news yet, no telling if it will be.

but it raises a question...

Is he changing positions on US invovlement in iraq?

If your answer is NO, then explain the differing statements he's made.  Big difference there.  One thing I do like about him is the consistency (except with the tax cuts).  But "soon" was the exact word he used.


PS 240 still predicts an october declaration of "mission accomplished" to make the war a non-issue, or even repub advantage, in the general election.  I've said this for 6 months now and still believe it.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2008, 09:45:35 AM
Well......neither have a platform to run on so they might as well bash each other.

Last month:
McCain said we'd be in Iraq another hundred years.

Today:
McCain said we'll be out of Iraq "soon".

I guess McCain has BOTH platforms, huh Joe?  ;)
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: War-Horse on February 25, 2008, 09:46:04 AM
Well......neither have a platform to run on so they might as well bash each other.


Whata dumb fuck.    The current platform is a fucking disaster that america may never recover from.. ::)
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Top Dog on February 25, 2008, 09:47:57 AM
Well......neither have a platform to run on so they might as well bash each other.
I agree.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Wiggs on February 25, 2008, 09:48:50 AM
What's wrong with this?  I hate how these political fucks use religion as a bases of their campaigns.  I'm not voting for the fucking popeship here.  I want a politician that won't jack my taxes and fuck up this country.  I couldn't give a rat's ass if they were muslim, buddhist or even jewish.  Actually, I take back that last one.

lol @ jewish
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Triple-H_2005 on February 25, 2008, 09:55:43 AM
Last month:
McCain said we'd be in Iraq another hundred years.

Today:
McCain said we'll be out of Iraq "soon".

I guess McCain has BOTH platforms, huh Joe?  ;)

I'm no McCain fan, but this has been explained a hundred times if you (not you personally, just people in general) get your news somewhere other than FOX or the New York Times.  Those biased sources fu*k it up for anyone wanting to get an acfurate view of anything!

He was referring to a "presence", such as our military bases in Okinawa and Germany post-WWII, not a full force occupation for 100 years.

Then again, if people actually researched candidates and compared them against their own beliefs (and didn't make decisions based on a 30-second commercial & what the talking heads told them to do) none of the current candidates would still be in the race.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: tom joad on February 25, 2008, 09:57:15 AM
Well......neither have a platform to run on so they might as well bash each other.

bringing the troops home from Iraq . . . promoting universal health care . . . ending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans . . . etc . . . just because you disagree with these positions, doesn't mean that they don't constitute "a platform".
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 25, 2008, 09:57:47 AM
Ironically, the only thing you're not allowed to be in politics is an Atheist.

The only one I can remember is Jesse "The Body" Ventura, who, after winning, said that organized religion was for weak minded people.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: The Coach on February 25, 2008, 09:59:55 AM
Last month:
McCain said we'd be in Iraq another hundred years.

Today:
McCain said we'll be out of Iraq "soon".

I guess McCain has BOTH platforms, huh Joe?  ;)

Define soon. Hillary and Obama are saying the same thing that the dems won on last year. If either one gets elected you can bet the troops aren't going anywhere. All they do is tell the left voters and supporter what they want to hear........and thats about it!!
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2008, 10:00:06 AM
I'm no McCain fan, but this has been explained a hundred times if you (not you personally, just people in general) get your news somewhere other than FOX or the New York Times.  Those biased sources fu*k it up for anyone wanting to get an acfurate view of anything!

He was referring to a "presence", such as our military bases in Okinawa and Germany post-WWII, not a full force occupation for 100 years.

Then again, if people actually researched candidates and compared them against their own beliefs (and didn't make decisions based on a 30-second commercial & what the talking heads told them to do) none of the current candidates would still be in the race.



They'll all do the same thing - scale back combat troops and keep the bases and pipeline and protective forces there for 100 years, that's not a problem.

McCain was trying to appease a group of college kids today when he said this.  Also he will no longer take questions on the '100 years of war" comment.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Man of Steel on February 25, 2008, 10:00:47 AM
Vote white, Republican male.....done and done.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: The Coach on February 25, 2008, 10:01:22 AM
. ending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans . . .


Where do you people get that bullshit from?
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: The Coach on February 25, 2008, 10:04:07 AM
bringing the troops home from Iraq . . . promoting universal health care . . . ending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans . . . etc . . . just because you disagree with these positions, doesn't mean that they don't constitute "a platform".

NO ONE will be bringing the troops home anytime soon, that would be a mistake and even the libs admitted that. Universal health care is a freaking joke and more people will die or will have to wait to get treatment.........why the hell do you think people from other countries come here for major treatment?
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2008, 10:05:43 AM
Where do you people get that bullshit from?

The dem candidates will end the Bush tax cuts.
McCain will not.

This is the issues that most voters use, not the war or even health care.

If you make over 70k, Obama/Hilary will take 2-6% more of your paycheck.
if you make under 70k, you will not be affected.

If you're rich yet living check to check, a Dem will reduce your standard of living, period.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2008, 10:06:56 AM
NO ONE will be bringing the troops home anytime soon, that would be a mistake and even the libs admitted that. Universal health care is a freaking joke and more people will die or will have to wait to get treatment.........why the hell do you think people from other countries come here for major treatment?

Joe,

McCain said today we'll be turning over the job of combat to the Iraqis, and soon.  We'll have forces there to guard the bases and our pipeline.

Hilary and Obama have the exact same position.  They just promise to remove combat troops faster.

That's it.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: tom joad on February 25, 2008, 10:12:38 AM
Where do you people get that bullshit from?

ummm many of Bush's tax cuts are due to expire.  McCain and the Republicans want to make those tax cuts permanent.  Clinton & Obama would let the Bush tax cuts expire on those making over a certain amount per year.

Do you need this policy difference explained to you by a Canadian?  ???
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: War-Horse on February 25, 2008, 10:13:07 AM
Holy shit, I sense a Joe meltdown coming......DELETE ACOUNT, DELETE ACCOUNT.

Youre no match for 240, dumbass....
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: FrenchFrie on February 25, 2008, 10:14:32 AM
obsama is full of anti american, anti occidental and anti white feelings, that seduce the millions of losers our modern occidental societites product on a daily basis.

The left gained control of the medias, which brainwashed women and youths (those who watch tv the most) for decades, and now these people have no values, dont feel like they re part of anything, and deny their own roots.

They adore the violent behavior of the animalistic blacks, arabs, they prefer to love other cultures than their own.

when i see whites cheering obama i'm just like "wtf ...what went so wrong to have white people cheer a black man to lead the first power in the occidental, white world?".


It's a matter of race first for asians, for ayrabs. They recognize themselves basing everything on the skin color FIRST.

We re the only dumbfucks who don't and cant recognize the skin color as being the first thing that makes what we are.

Russians, europeans, and americans, are fighiting each others since centuries, the whites never made a coalition based on the skin color, problem is, thats what indians asians and blacks did, and thats why they re going to anal rape us.

its always funny to compare the amount of arabs, asian indians and blacks living and breeding in occidental countries (europe, north america) compared  to the insignificant amount of whites living in ...africa, asia, middle east.


The obama phenomenon is a disaster, because it shows how fast the whites worlwide destroyed thesmelves from inside, again who would have thought something like that could happen so quickly.

We re dying, faster than we thought.

you cant do shit when 99% of the young are now leftists sympathizers, dont believe in any values, cant believe in themselves anymore and praise other barbaric and bestial cultures as being better than their own.

Our sons and grandsons will be brainwashed by their friends, the medias, again and again and again and we as true and real conservatives cannot stay behind em and constantly tell em "they lying to you, be smart, be proud ", we lost the war against the other races who are now waiting to outnumber us in our own homelands watching tv and waiting for us to disapear.

They know they won, and they re right.


If only we had made an alliance , if only native europeans, north americans and russian allied together as a WHITE occidental supra nation instead of trying to backstab each other constantly, we would have been able to face the worlwide immivasion coming from the third world.

But now its too late, and this fucking #### being close to lead the USA is the proof our decline is far more advanced than we thought.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: War-Horse on February 25, 2008, 10:20:56 AM
Damn, Frenchfrie.   Youre living on a weird planet.   Some of it is true, but youre wrong on the media left thing.

The people went left because of the fuckups of the bush administration....he even lost alot of his own party......face the truth, bush destroyed america.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Triple-H_2005 on February 25, 2008, 10:25:50 AM
NO ONE will be bringing the troops home anytime soon, that would be a mistake and even the libs admitted that. Universal health care is a freaking joke and more people will die or will have to wait to get treatment.........why the hell do you think people from other countries come here for major treatment?
Agreed x 10
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Man of Steel on February 25, 2008, 10:31:28 AM
Folks just vote white male Republican and get a good nights rest.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2008, 10:32:00 AM
For longterm US interests, Bush did a great thing.

We (US firms in US dollars) manage Iraqi and Afghan (caspian) oil.
The US has set up permanent bases in the region.
The US has ensured the dollar will still remain relevant.

The cost has been 5 trillion dollars, borrowed from China mostly.

The gain?  Well, iraq alone has $50 to 75 trill worth of saleable oil.  Caspian oil is 10 at worst and estimated to be more.

The bush admin did a necessary thing.  They said in 2000 they'd do it - they wrote the PNAC document (cheney, Rummy, Jeb, wolfy, bolton and others) detailing plans to control arabian oil and positioning.  Then they did it - exactly as they said they would.

Problem now is that some Americans (rich ones) have been getting fat and living large off the tax cuts for the wealthy, and a dem will bring that back to earth.  
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: War-Horse on February 25, 2008, 10:45:13 AM
What happens if oil stops trading in dollars as its collapsing.   Some countries are starting right now.
Wheres the wealth, then??
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2008, 10:46:10 AM
What happens if oil stops trading in dollars as its collapsing.   Some countries are starting right now.
Wheres the wealth, then??

They won't have a choice.  If you want Iraqi, Caspian, or maybe Iranian oil, you pay dollars.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: KillerMonk on February 25, 2008, 11:00:22 AM
NO ONE will be bringing the troops home anytime soon, that would be a mistake and even the libs admitted that. Universal health care is a freaking joke and more people will die or will have to wait to get treatment.........why the hell do you think people from other countries come here for major treatment?
We have Universal Health care, some people choose to have private health care but it does not discriminate for those who do not.Australia is on the cutting edge of specialised treatment.
And our Taxes are being reduced to an all time low in the next Budget.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: IFBBwannaB on February 25, 2008, 11:03:16 AM
I vote for Hilary VS Ob(s)ama fight to the death , the winner will get a shot to the head.
Win win situation. ;D
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: delta9mda on February 25, 2008, 11:21:37 AM
NO ONE will be bringing the troops home anytime soon, that would be a mistake and even the libs admitted that. Universal health care is a freaking joke and more people will die or will have to wait to get treatment.........why the hell do you think people from other countries come here for major treatment?
and france is to be ending their social med plan. 40% tax is too much (ask the countries that have "free" health care.  ;)
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 25, 2008, 12:26:44 PM
NO ONE will be bringing the troops home anytime soon, that would be a mistake and even the libs admitted that. Universal health care is a freaking joke and more people will die or will have to wait to get treatment.........why the hell do you think people from other countries come here for major treatment?

You really are an conservatie american aren't you? As a citizen in a country with universal healthcare, I can say with confidence that I wouldn't want to move somewhere without it. Yes we have high taxes
but if you just took your eyes off your own greedy wallet and started to look around, you would notice that everybody is not as fortunate as you are. But you problaby have the way of thinking "It's their own fault, everybody must stand on their own". If thats the case then I feel sorry for you and those around you.

Speakin of the healthcare btw, no system is perfect but with universal healthcare the whole point is that NOONE gets left behind. It might take a bit longer to get treatment than a rich american with a private doctor, but still you get healthcare for FREE which I belive ends up saving more lives than taking when comparing to your system. Oh and LOL, isn't there like 50 million americans that doesn't have a health insurance? Sounds like a great result for your (the american) way of dealing with things. But I guess that's ok as long you can afford your own insurance, because thats only thing that matters right?

And NO I'm not a communist btw. I just try to form my opinions with logic and care for my fellow humans. Money isn't everything.

/Anti-american rant OVER
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Bast000 on February 25, 2008, 12:29:03 PM
Folks just vote white male Republican and get a good nights rest.

so you're happy with Bush's performance?
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on February 25, 2008, 12:30:49 PM
Holy shit, I sense a Joe meltdown coming......DELETE ACOUNT, DELETE ACCOUNT.

Youre no match for 240, dumbass....

lol
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: tom joad on February 25, 2008, 12:52:17 PM
Universal health care is a freaking joke

Yup.  Must be.  Otherwise why would the United States be the only wealthy industrialized nation that does not provide universal health care?
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: IFBBwannaB on February 25, 2008, 12:53:39 PM
For longterm US interests, Bush did a great thing.

We (US firms in US dollars) manage Iraqi and Afghan (caspian) oil.
The US has set up permanent bases in the region.
The US has ensured the dollar will still remain relevant.

The cost has been 5 trillion dollars, borrowed from China mostly.

The gain?  Well, iraq alone has $50 to 75 trill worth of saleable oil.  Caspian oil is 10 at worst and estimated to be more.

The bush admin did a necessary thing.  They said in 2000 they'd do it - they wrote the PNAC document (cheney, Rummy, Jeb, wolfy, bolton and others) detailing plans to control arabian oil and positioning.  Then they did it - exactly as they said they would.

Problem now is that some Americans (rich ones) have been getting fat and living large off the tax cuts for the wealthy, and a dem will bring that back to earth.  

Not to mention taking the war to their grounds.
You cant stay in defensive mode,you cant keep track of everything and anyone that gets in the US.
The death toll of 9/11 was almost the same as the entire Iraqi war,by taking the war to them you make your home safer and with the possibility of a dirty bomb exploding in a major city this sort of action is a must.

Bush is a cowboy,he saw the target and went for it and said fuck all you idiots that say no.
There is a reason to why a president have veto power and is almost impossible to be impeached,its in order to give him the freedom and safety to do longterm plans and thats what Bush did.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 25, 2008, 01:02:27 PM
Not to mention taking the war to their grounds.
You cant stay in defensive mode,you cant keep track of everything and anyone that gets in the US.
The death toll of 9/11 was almost the same as the entire Iraqi war,by taking the war to them you make your home safer and with the possibility of a dirty bomb exploding in a major city this sort of action is a must.

Bush is a cowboy,he saw the target and went for it and said fuck all you idiots that say no.
There is a reason to why a president have veto power and is almost impossible to be impeached,its in order to give him the freedom and safety to do longterm plans and thats what Bush did.

I love BUSH as well

Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 25, 2008, 01:02:51 PM
Not to mention taking the war to their grounds.
You cant stay in defensive mode,you cant keep track of everything and anyone that gets in the US.
The death toll of 9/11 was almost the same as the entire Iraqi war,by taking the war to them you make your home safer and with the possibility of a dirty bomb exploding in a major city this sort of action is a must.

Bush is a cowboy,he saw the target and went for it and said fuck all you idiots that say no.
There is a reason to why a president have veto power and is almost impossible to be impeached,its in order to give him the freedom and safety to do longterm plans and thats what Bush did.

lol what war are you really talking about? Have you been FOXinized? I'm pretty sure that if Osama or who the fuck ever wanted to attack the US again, he would be pretty much unstoppable if he/they know what they're doing. Tbh, I think George Bush himself have been a greater threat to america than osama ever was. Osama kills a few thousand americans. Bush kills even more soldiers and civilians by starting a war and at the same time manages to bring down the US economy and welfare.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: tom joad on February 25, 2008, 01:11:29 PM
Bush kills even more soldiers and civilians by starting a war and at the same time manages to bring down the US economy and welfare.

but that's small potatoes compared to getting a hummer in the oval office.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: IFBBwannaB on February 25, 2008, 01:38:46 PM
lol what war are you really talking about? Have you been FOXinized? I'm pretty sure that if Osama or who the fuck ever wanted to attack the US again, he would be pretty much unstoppable if he/they know what they're doing. Tbh, I think George Bush himself have been a greater threat to america than osama ever was. Osama kills a few thousand americans. Bush kills even more soldiers and civilians by starting a war and at the same time manages to bring down the US economy and welfare.

First , your fagish avatar explain why you dont like Bush.

Second , go look at the numbers , ONE bombing that destroyed two towers (not at their full capacity) killed the same number of people that a long war did.

Do you really think its that hard to destroy a building? Poison a city's water pipes ? Bio/Chem/Atom bomb exploding in a crowded city can have a deathtoll in the 100,000's+++....ever thought of that?

What about the Arabs controlling your life with the price of oil? You will be so pissed if you suddenly have NO fuel and NO power at home.

So yes Bush doesnt want fags to marry , get over that , he rocks.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Triple-H_2005 on February 25, 2008, 01:46:19 PM
Oh and LOL, isn't there like 50 million americans that doesn't have a health insurance? Sounds like a great result for your (the american) way of dealing with things. But I guess that's ok as long you can afford your own insurance, because thats only thing that matters right?



Bro, I  didn't go back to college and live on tuna and oatmeal and ramen noodles for 3 years, graduate, get a great job and work my ass off so (select whichever group for which your heart is currently bleeding):

Unwed mothers of bastard childrent that can't keep their legs together
Shiftless layabouts that won't work
Those currently abusing the government entitlement system
Dope-heads
Drunks

can get free healthcare.  If you don't put into the pot, why in the world should you be allowed to live off of the sweat of others?

Exception to the rule:  Children.  They should not be penalized for being brought into the world by someone that cannot support them.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on February 25, 2008, 01:49:57 PM
Bro, I  didn't go back to college and live on tuna and oatmeal and ramen noodles for 3 years, graduate, get a great job and work my ass off so (select whichever group for which your heart is currently bleeding):

Unwed mothers of bastard childrent that can't keep their legs together
Shiftless layabouts that won't work
Those currently abusing the government entitlement system
Dope-heads
Drunks

can get free healthcare.  If you don't put into the pot, why in the world should you be allowed to live off of the sweat of others?

Exception to the rule:  Children.  They should not be penalized for being brought into the world by someone that cannot support them.

Agree
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 25, 2008, 01:50:01 PM
Bro, I  didn't go back to college and live on tuna and oatmeal and ramen noodles for 3 years, graduate, get a great job and work my ass off so (select whichever group for which your heart is currently bleeding):

Unwed mothers of bastard childrent that can't keep their legs together
Shiftless layabouts that won't work
Those currently abusing the government entitlement system
Dope-heads
Drunks

can get free healthcare.  If you don't put into the pot, why in the world should you be allowed to live off of the sweat of others?

Exception to the rule:  Children.  They should not be penalized for being brought into the world by someone that cannot support them.

You are all a bunch of degenerates.  Do you understand what it is like to live in a society?  If you want to make money and keep it all to yourself then feel free but move off of the grid.
When you're part of a society you must contribute to be part of it.  No free rides.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on February 25, 2008, 01:51:02 PM
I think George Bush himself have been a greater threat to america than osama ever was.

Yep

Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Camel Jockey on February 25, 2008, 01:51:36 PM
The alternative to McCain has the worst fucking policies ever.

Obama wants to spend away and turn the US into Europe..
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: whateva on February 25, 2008, 01:57:44 PM
Universal health care is a freaking joke and more people will die or will have to wait to get treatment.........why the hell do you think people from other countries come here for major treatment?
::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
How do you explain this genius?
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http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?t=0&v=30&l=en
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Triple-H_2005 on February 25, 2008, 02:00:19 PM
You are all a bunch of degenerates.  Do you understand what it is like to live in a society?  If you want to make money and keep it all to yourself then feel free but move off of the grid.
When you're part of a society you must contribute to be part of it.  No free rides.
EXACTLY!

NO
FREE
RIDES!

Especially not on my back.

You want healthcare?  Either get an education and get a job that provides a program OR make some personal sacrifices.  Turn off the cable, internet (society thrived before it was invented), cell phone (you can live without that, too), quit buying brand names and drive a cheaper car and BUY YOUR OWN INSURANCE.

The government isn't your mom.

Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 25, 2008, 02:01:29 PM
Bro, I  didn't go back to college and live on tuna and oatmeal and ramen noodles for 3 years, graduate, get a great job and work my ass off so (select whichever group for which your heart is currently bleeding):

Unwed mothers of bastard childrent that can't keep their legs together
Shiftless layabouts that won't work
Those currently abusing the government entitlement system
Dope-heads
Drunks

can get free healthcare.  If you don't put into the pot, why in the world should you be allowed to live off of the sweat of others?

Exception to the rule:  Children.  They should not be penalized for being brought into the world by someone that cannot support them.

Amazing, you just demonstrated my whole point. You only care about the money in your pocket. But the thing is, HIGH TAXES DO NOT KILL YOUR PERSONAL ECONOMY once the nation has adjusted to it. The country I live has one of the worlds highest taxes and it WORKS. People still get money for working and although with tragic exceptions, everyone has money to feed themselves and live in a clean and safe enviroment. We also have a huge immigration "problem" with people coming here and living off our welfare system. But you know what? I can still with my below average job pay for rent, food, hobbies and travels (with a very good marginal) and at the same time pay for taxes that makes sure that every citizen can be kept off hunger and poverty even though they are part of any those groups you just mentioned. Oh and if you were wondering, rich people are still rich in this country.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: whateva on February 25, 2008, 02:02:56 PM
Amazing, you just demonstrated my whole point. You only care about the money in your pocket. But the thing is, HIGH TAXES DO NOT KILL YOUR PERSONAL ECONOMY once the nation has adjusted to it. The country I live has one of the worlds highest taxes and it WORKS. People still get money for working and although with tragic exceptions, everyone has money to feed themselves and live in a clean and safe enviroment. We also have a huge immigration "problem" with people coming here and living off our welfare system. But you know what? I can still with my below average job pay for rent, food, hobbies and travels (with a very good marginal) and at the same time pay for taxes that makes sure that every citizen can be kept off hunger and poverty even though they are part of any those groups you just mentioned. Oh and if you were wondering, rich people are still rich in this country.
Exactly
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2008, 02:07:07 PM
Exception to the rule:  Children.  They should not be penalized for being brought into the world by someone that cannot support them.


Remember a few months back when bush vetoed the S-CHIP bill which would have given healthcare to every child in America?
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 25, 2008, 02:07:32 PM
First , your fagish avatar explain why you dont like Bush.

Second , go look at the numbers , ONE bombing that destroyed two towers (not at their full capacity) killed the same number of people that a long war did.

Do you really think its that hard to destroy a building? Poison a city's water pipes ? Bio/Chem/Atom bomb exploding in a crowded city can have a deathtoll in the 100,000's+++....ever thought of that?

What about the Arabs controlling your life with the price of oil? You will be so pissed if you suddenly have NO fuel and NO power at home.

So yes Bush doesnt want fags to marry , get over that , he rocks.

Lol you are contradicting yourself. You say it's way too easy for some terrorist to attack america and yes thats true. Then why bother spending billions of tax dollars on national security chasing some ghost that will not show itself until it has already attacked? Then it also makes even less sense to stir up even more shit internationally by attacking another country by false reasons.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: FrenchFrie on February 25, 2008, 02:14:40 PM
You are all a bunch of degenerates.  Do you understand what it is like to live in a society?  If you want to make money and keep it all to yourself then feel free but move off of the grid.
When you're part of a society you must contribute to be part of it.  No free rides.
lol...everyone contributes to everyone's medicocrity and sadness in france and europe, thats socialism for you; everyone HAS to be equal in mediocrity and low productivity than the others, and everyone is FORCED to do as less as possible.
Why? because at some point doing more than you have to do wont get you anything much but more TAXES, this way everyone want to stop being productive and pro active, and nobody want to create or take risks/responsabilities.

It's precisely because you work hard that you can enjoy buying cool stuff the others cant and have a better and easier life than them.

If anyone can have the same things  while doing nothing, that's socialism and that's what destroyed europe from inside.you have no clue about what you re talking about, and i think you re a lazy mofo who just wants to wank all day long but still benefit from the same things people who work hard can afford.


the only thing this kind of mentality brings is mediocrity for everyone , and nobody finds hapiness in medicority, and you cannot force those who want to give the best of themselves to do so, even if you, cannot do the same.

It's funny how lazy losers and immigrants who just want to benefit from the welfare state  share the same goals; suck as much as they can from those who work their asses off.


Another thing; a long time ago we could say "most immigrants come to work". Nowadays, most imigrants come essentially to benefit from european or american welfare advantages, and only a very small portion, a minority of em come to really work integrate and build a better life .
nowadays any moron from any third world country can settle naywhere in europe, and soon in north america with his whole familly because we allow him to do so in order not to hurt his "feelings".

Nowadays any wanker has protectors who explain why he has the right do jerk off all day long and not work , and try to explain this with phylosophical  bullshits to hide the fact he s just that, a fucking loser, and a wanker.


Go fuck yourself you all bastards, even if you succeed into destroying your own culture and those who made it shine, once it will be finished , arabs asians and blacks will fuck you in the ass and finish the job of erasing the white civilisation.


Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: tom joad on February 25, 2008, 02:15:57 PM
The government isn't your mom.

Yes.  Why do my tax dollars have to go towards the local fire department?  My house has never been on fire, so why the hell have I been paying to put out the infernos of some morons?   
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: MB on February 25, 2008, 02:22:20 PM
Not only do we not need universal health care, we should be working to eliminate health insurance as well.  Why have a middle man between you and your doctor with their hand in the pot?  Make medical care a competitive business, just like any other business.  This would greatly reduce health care costs and improve wages as well.  Your employer usually pays a huge amount of your health insurance premium.  
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on February 25, 2008, 02:22:52 PM
Lol you are contradicting yourself. You say it's way too easy for some terrorist to attack america and yes thats true. Then why bother spending billions of tax dollars on national security chasing some ghost that will not show itself until it has already attacked? Then it also makes even less sense to stir up even more shit internationally by attacking another country by false reasons.

Exactly, the war on Terror is just a good way to keep the American People in check.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: whateva on February 25, 2008, 02:23:12 PM
lol...everyone contributes to everyone's medicocrity and sadness in france and europe, thats socialism for you; everyone HAS to be equal in mediocrity and low productivity than the others, and everyone is FORCED to do as less as possible.

It's precisely because you work hard that you can enjoy buying cool stuff the others cant and have a better and easier life than them.

If anyone can have the same thing while doing nothing, that's socialism and that's what destroyed europe from inside.you have no clue about what you re talking about, and i think you re a lazy mofo who just wants to wank all day long but still benefit from the same things people who work hard can afford.


the only thing this kind of mentality brings is mediocrity for everyone , and nobody finds hapiness in medicority, and you cannot force those who want to give the best of themselves to do so, even if you, cannot do the same.


Are you saying ,there are not rich people in Europe, that can buy (cool stuff  ::)) ,and have easier life than everybody else
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 25, 2008, 02:27:53 PM
lol...everyone contributes to everyone's medicocrity and sadness in france and europe, thats socialism for you; everyone HAS to be equal in mediocrity and low productivity than the others, and everyone is FORCED to do as less as possible.

It's precisely because you work hard that you can enjoy buying cool stuff the others cant and have a better and easier life than them.

If anyone can have the same thing while doing nothing, that's socialism and that's what destroyed europe from inside.you have no clue about what you re talking about, and i think you re a lazy mofo who just wants to wank all day long but still benefit from the same things people who work hard can afford.


the only thing this kind of mentality brings is mediocrity for everyone , and nobody finds hapiness in medicority, and you cannot force those who want to give the best of themselves to do so, even if you, cannot do the same.



Typical american mindset. Damn douchebag. Your saying europe is dying from within because of socialism. At least I'm under the impression that europe is problaby THE most stable and safe place in the western world, were people are actually taking care of and having the right to speak and influence politics. Sure europe has issues as nothing is perfect.

You americans often mention that you can not succed or prosper in a socialized nation, that you must be truly "free" for your hardwork to be paid off. Well your "freedom" is an illusion. The american people is from what I can tell subjected to more propaganda and suppresion than the europeans are. And also what you don't mention is those 96% of the american people that in fact lives mediocre lives or worse. Those who truly succeded in america are an minority and do not represent the truth of the nation.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: FrenchFrie on February 25, 2008, 02:36:18 PM
Are you saying ,there are not rich people in Europe, that can buy (cool stuff  ::)) ,and have easier life than everybody else
most of em inherit it from their parents who are into politics or into business, but its hard from a self made man to create any entrepenreurship project especially in france nowadays.

With the money we have i and my gf, we could buy a one room appartment, spending all our money in it.

In canada, or in the usa, we could buy a 2/3 rooms appartment for us and another appartment to rent.
its just an example. (we have 100 000 euros so do the maths if you want to).

Another thing is its deeply embeded in people's mind that success is something that has to be destroyed at all cost, and it looks like this tendency is starting to grow in north america too, its funny to realize this phenomenon has the same roots either in europe or now in the usa; medias and globalization of telecomunications who are by far controlled by leftists brainwash people trhough the TV and destroy , distort their lifes and their perception of reality, and what really matters .

Yes, the more an occidental country gets controlled by leftists, in politics and in medias, the more it opens its borders, the more it legalizes tons of weird behaviors and the more basically  everything degenerates quickly.

It's like if we re in the 70's again, the main problem is that nowadays their are millions of foreigners, even if they have a visa or green card, INSIDE our territories.

to sum it all,in current occidental societies, no one want responsabilites anymore, everyone want to be a "a star" and be seen on "tv", everyone just want to sit behind a screen and eat all day long.

Compare this to the extreme will of the foreigners to "avenge" their ancestors, compare this to their will to submit the whites who are degenerating and more and more in love with the "foreign" cultures, who dont want to have kids anymore,  and you ve got the roots of one of the most incredibly slow and silent genocide that ever happened in the history of mankind.There s a global population's replacement taking place in occidental countries, and it goes hand in hand with the rising of the leftist medias and politics.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: FrenchFrie on February 25, 2008, 02:37:30 PM
Typical american mindset. Damn douchebag. Your saying europe is dying from within because of socialism. At least I'm under the impression that europe is problaby THE most stable and safe place in the western world, were people are actually taking care of and having the right to speak and influence politics. Sure europe has issues as nothing is perfect.

You americans often mention that you can not succed or prosper in a socialized nation, that you must be truly "free" for your hardwork to be paid off. Well your "freedom" is an illusion. The american people is from what I can tell subjected to more propaganda and suppresion than the europeans are. And also what you don't mention is those 96% of the american people that in fact lives mediocre lives or worse. Those who truly succeded in america are an minority and do not represent the truth of the nation.
rofl what a fucking #### you are. Dude, i'm french.


Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 25, 2008, 02:48:26 PM
rofl what a fucking #### you are. Dude, i'm french.

Now go choke on you boyfriend's cock you filthy scum.


Even though your french, you speak both like an american and a nazi. Fuck your racial beliefs, they do not nothing but cause trouble. Tell me more about your apartment situation.. are you sure there aren't anywhere else you could find a apartment cheaper? 100000 euro is a lot of damn money. My guess is that you are looking for either a apartment near some big fancy city (paris etc) or some expensive suburb.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: whateva on February 25, 2008, 02:56:41 PM
most of em inherit it from their parents who are into politics or into business, but its hard from a self made man to create any entrepenreurship project especially in france nowadays.

With the money we have i and my gf, we could buy a one room appartment, spending all our money in it.

In canada, or in the usa, we could buy a 2/3 rooms appartment for us and another appartment to rent.
its just an example. (we have 100 000 euros so do the maths if you want to).

Another thing is its deeply embeded in people's mind that success is something that has to be destroyed at all cost, and it looks like this tendency is starting to grow in north america too, its funny to realize this phenomenon has the same roots either in europe or now in the usa; medias and globalization of telecomunications who are by far controlled by leftists brainwash people trhough the TV and destroy , distort their lifes and their perception of reality, and what really matters .

Yes, the more an occidental country gets controlled by leftists, in politics and in medias, the more it opens its borders, the more it legalizes tons of weird behaviors and the more basically  everything degenerates quickly.

It's like if we re in the 70's again, the main problem is that nowadays their are millions of foreigners, even if they have a visa or green card, INSIDE our territories.

to sum it all,in current occidental societies, no one want responsabilites anymore, everyone want to be a "a star" and be seen on "tv", everyone just want to sit behind a screen and eat all day long.

Compare this to the extreme will of the foreigners to "avenge" their ancestors, compare this to their will to submit the whites who are degenerating and more and more in love with the "foreign" cultures, who dont want to have kids anymore,  and you ve got the roots of one of the most incredibly slow and silent genocide that ever happened in the history of mankind.There s a global population's replacement taking place in occidental countries, and it goes hand in hand with the rising of the leftist medias and politics.

Dude ,if you have $148.000 dollars cash ,to buy a house ,I say you are doing better than 90% of the American people ,Do you know what is happening right now W/the America"s housing crisis
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: IFBBwannaB on February 25, 2008, 03:00:26 PM
Lol you are contradicting yourself. You say it's way too easy for some terrorist to attack america and yes thats true. Then why bother spending billions of tax dollars on national security chasing some ghost that will not show itself until it has already attacked? Then it also makes even less sense to stir up even more shit internationally by attacking another country by false reasons.

Since those terrorists are from those countries,funded by them and get their most dangerous weapons from those countries than YES its smart to attack them.
If Osama and others like him are busy evading air raids they cant effectively plan and perform a major terror attack.

Ever heard of "The best defense is an offense" ? By your logic the US should just sit and wait for the next attack  ::)
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: FrenchFrie on February 25, 2008, 03:07:22 PM
Even though your french, you speak both like an american and a nazi. Fuck your racial beliefs, they do not nothing but cause trouble. Tell me more about your apartment situation.. are you sure there aren't anywhere else you could find a apartment cheaper? 100000 euro is a lot of damn money. My guess is that you are looking for either a apartment near some big fancy city (paris etc) or some expensive suburb.

idiot, i speak like a white man who belong to the white civilisation, like any black would speak about his "brothers", like any asian would speak about his community, like any arab would speak about his "umma"...

so dont waste your energy trying to label me as a nazi ...i'm just a white guy who dont think asian arabs or blacks are "better", "smarter", "wiser" than us and that we MUST give em everything we built because for some reasons we should be ashamed of what we are and what we did.

We punked these people asses in the past, thats why they openly hate us and are rejoicing to see us take the peaceful way, cause once we ll get outnumberer and owned from the inside, then they will be able to have their revenge against the "white man" .
Maybe not all of em see things that way, but the problem is THE VAST MAJORITY of em (and especially in foreign countries) see it like this.
Who cares if one immigrant out of 10 come here with a positive mind, if 9 come to spit on us, either in europe or north america.

You will see , how these "peaceful" and "wise" arab, indian asian and black immigrants will react toward the whiteys when we will become a minority in our own homelands, and its only a matter of decades.

I pity the fools who think we will all live together in peace... just fucking look at what is happening in europe, asia, russia... and especially in kosovo... everywhere the minorities coming from the third world, most of em driven by islam, slowly outnumber the natives, once they numerous enough , they start showing off their ressentment and start threatening the natives... the leftists medias protect em, and so on, and in the end its civil war.



the funny thing is, these people always tell what they want to do.  The funny is most ennemies of occident in the world pray for a win of obsama. It says a lot.

We, as whites, have been in advance on any other civilisation until now. We slapped the asian, who decided to stay in their corner and wait for us to fall. We ve become so powerful, that we are now scared by our own power over the world, our own influence on the other civilisations.
Most of em reject our influence, while at the same taking the best of it (science, health, capitalism, leisures etc).

IN the end, we re allowing em to massively settle in our lands, and we re diluting ourselves while asking em to accelerate this very same process of dilution of what we are.

But, we re the only ones on earth, to do this mistake. Asians for example are just taking the best of what we created, and add it to their own strenghts (values, seniority/oldness, wisdom and phylosophical superiority).
They know the whites are slowly destroying themselves, and that we wont win the war against islam, nor will we able to manage what a massive immivasion from the third world will do to our homelands.

The fucking chinese are just waiting for their finest hour.

I doubt they will have as much scruples (qualms) as us to deal with the muslims  once we will have disapeared form the earth 's surface.

they will fucking genocide everything that is not yellow on this planet.

Like in the planet of the apes, i give it 1 or two centuries for north america and europe to be inhabited by muslims black or arabs and mexicans.

Then the asians (chinese) will have an open field to rule the world.

It's not like i think its sad,  i mean, its just the way it is, they re winning, we re losing, and people who can envision what i see cant do shit either;  its the law of nature and only the strongest survive.
We ve reached the extreme limits of what we as whites can achieve, and now we disapreaing slowly and destroying ourselves. Nothing makes sense at all anymore.

But it still makes sense for the muslims to have their revenge against us, and it still makes sense for the asians to dominate the world in the end.

We already a thing of the past, and most of us don't even know about it.



We re just giving away everything we have done, we re just denying and rejecting our own past, and its happening in north america with a slight decay compared to what is hapening in europe, but the same thing is happening, it's really an impressive phenomenon.
We re watching ourselves die on tv, and we just care about more coca cola, more pop corn, more porn.

Truth is, looking at what the vast majority of whites have become, we deserve our fate, there's no doubt about it.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 25, 2008, 03:08:17 PM
Since those terrorists are from those countries,funded by them and get their most dangerous weapons from those countries than YES its smart to attack them.
If Osama and others like him are busy evading air raids they cant effectively plan and perform a major terror attack.

Ever heard of "The best defense is an offense" ? By your logic the US should just sit and wait for the next attack  ::)

LMAO 9/11 was carried out by mixing a couple of muslim extremists and a few carpet knives. That's high budget and hypermodern-do-not-disturb-while-we-prepare type of attack for ya.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 25, 2008, 03:14:10 PM
idiot, i speak like a white man who belong to the white civilisation, like any black would speak about his "brothers", like any asian would speak about his community, like any arab would speak about his "umma"...

so dont waste your energy trying to label me as a nazi ...i'm just a white guy who dont think asian arabs or blacks are "better", "smarter", "wiser" than us and that we MUST give em everything we built because for some reasons we should be ashamed of what we are and what we did.

We punked these people asses in the past, thats why they openly hate us and are rejoicing to see us take the peaceful way, cause once we ll get outnumberer and owned from the inside, then they will be able to have their revenge against the "white man" .
Maybe not all of em see things that way, but the problem is THE VAST MAJORITY of em (and especially in foreign countries) see it like this.
Who cares if one immigrant out of 10 come here with a positive mind, if 9 come to spit on us, either in europe or north america.

You will see , how these "peaceful" and "wise" arab, indian asian and black immigrants will react toward the whiteys when we will become a minority in our own homelands, and its only a matter of decades.

I pity the fools who think we will all live together in peace... just fucking look at what is happening in europe, asia, russia... and especially in kosovo... everywhere the minorities coming from the third world, most of em driven by islam, slowly outnumber the natives, once they numerous enough , they start showing off their ressentment and start threatening the natives... the leftists medias protect em, and so on, and in the end its civil war.





lol white people didn't pwn anyone, EUROPEANS  did. Note EUROPEANS. The fact that EUROPEANS happened to evolve more quickly and gain more had absolutely nothing to do with skin color. It was becuase of enviromental factors and lucky moments in history. So when a black or muslim is european, he is EUROPEAN. Nothing more, nothing less. You think purely as in "us" and "them". It's very narrowminded and you're problaby not to selfconfident and a loving person anyway. I know your type belive me.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: IFBBwannaB on February 25, 2008, 03:33:23 PM
LMAO 9/11 was carried out by mixing a couple of muslim extremists and a few carpet knives. That's high budget and hypermodern-do-not-disturb-while-we-prepare type of attack for ya.

1.Planning and excuting that requires more than you might think.

2.You actualy contribute to my point,see how easy it is to kill 3K people in one day.Think what will happen if they will have more time to think through their next attack insted of ducking from the next air raid.

3.One dirty bomb in a crowded city = more dead people than all the US wars in history combined.

So what are you,by what Im seeing from your post you are a black,gay musilm dude or what? Your opinion is a big suprise.... ::)
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 25, 2008, 03:36:44 PM
idiot, i speak like a white man who belong to the white civilisation, like any black would speak about his "brothers", like any asian would speak about his community, like any arab would speak about his "umma"...

so dont waste your energy trying to label me as a nazi ...i'm just a white guy who dont think asian arabs or blacks are "better", "smarter", "wiser" than us and that we MUST give em everything we built because for some reasons we should be ashamed of what we are and what we did.

We punked these people asses in the past, thats why they openly hate us and are rejoicing to see us take the peaceful way, cause once we ll get outnumberer and owned from the inside, then they will be able to have their revenge against the "white man" .
Maybe not all of em see things that way, but the problem is THE VAST MAJORITY of em (and especially in foreign countries) see it like this.
Who cares if one immigrant out of 10 come here with a positive mind, if 9 come to spit on us, either in europe or north america.

You will see , how these "peaceful" and "wise" arab, indian asian and black immigrants will react toward the whiteys when we will become a minority in our own homelands, and its only a matter of decades.

I pity the fools who think we will all live together in peace... just fucking look at what is happening in europe, asia, russia... and especially in kosovo... everywhere the minorities coming from the third world, most of em driven by islam, slowly outnumber the natives, once they numerous enough , they start showing off their ressentment and start threatening the natives... the leftists medias protect em, and so on, and in the end its civil war.



the funny thing is, these people always tell what they want to do.  The funny is most ennemies of occident in the world pray for a win of obsama. It says a lot.

We, as whites, have been in advance on any other civilisation until now. We slapped the asian, who decided to stay in their corner and wait for us to fall. We ve become so powerful, that we are now scared by our own power over the world, our own influence on the other civilisations.
Most of em reject our influence, while at the same taking the best of it (science, health, capitalism, leisures etc).

IN the end, we re allowing em to massively settle in our lands, and we re diluting ourselves while asking em to accelerate this very same process of dilution of what we are.

But, we re the only ones on earth, to do this mistake. Asians for example are just taking the best of what we created, and add it to their own strenghts (values, seniority/oldness, wisdom and phylosophical superiority).
They know the whites are slowly destroying themselves, and that we wont win the war against islam, nor will we able to manage what a massive immivasion from the third world will do to our homelands.

The fucking chinese are just waiting for their finest hour.

I doubt they will have as much scruples (qualms) as us to deal with the muslims  once we will have disapeared form the earth 's surface.

they will fucking genocide everything that is not yellow on this planet.

Like in the planet of the apes, i give it 1 or two centuries for north america and europe to be inhabited by muslims black or arabs and mexicans.

Then the asians (chinese) will have an open field to rule the world.

It's not like i think its sad,  i mean, its just the way it is, they re winning, we re losing, and people who can envision what i see cant do shit either;  its the law of nature and only the strongest survive.
We ve reached the extreme limits of what we as whites can achieve, and now we disapreaing slowly and destroying ourselves. Nothing makes sense at all anymore.

But it still makes sense for the muslims to have their revenge against us, and it still makes sense for the asians to dominate the world in the end.

We already a thing of the past, and most of us don't even know about it.



We re just giving away everything we have done, we re just denying and rejecting our own past, and its happening in north america with a slight decay compared to what is hapening in europe, but the same thing is happening, it's really an impressive phenomenon.
We re watching ourselves die on tv, and we just care about more coca cola, more pop corn, more porn.

Truth is, looking at what the vast majority of whites have become, we deserve our fate, there's no doubt about it.

And oh btw, how do you explain Hitler? He most certainly didn't come from some muslim "shithole" or some chinese opium den. Still he and his "white" companions stirred up more shit than you could imagine. We as "white" people are not as united you might think. He and you have the same basic thought although Hitler was albeit a bit more specified and extreme. Hitler wanted the "whites"/"aryans" to unite and become the dominating world power. So I guess my point is that diffirences in culture or political beliefs splits people 1000x more than skin color do. Usa and the Soviet Union both were "white nations" and still they almost nuked the entire world with their dispute.

Judge people for who they truly are, not by their pigments in their skin. Even though you might not like some people, still try to be friendly and do something about the situation rather than just whine, asshat.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: FrenchFrie on February 25, 2008, 03:38:23 PM

So what are you,by what Im seeing from your post you are a black,gay musilm dude or what? Your opinion is a big suprise.... ::)

like we care what he is...

dont give him that impression or he ll feel the need to keep on telling us how a world where everyone fucks each other while smoking crack , in his opinion, is the point of life.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 25, 2008, 03:48:33 PM
1.Planning and excuting that requires more than you might think.

2.You actualy contribute to my point,see how easy it is to kill 3K people in one day.Think what will happen if they will have more time to think through their next attack insted of ducking from the next air raid.

3.One dirty bomb in a crowded city = more dead people than all the US wars in history combined.

So what are you,by what Im seeing from your post you are a black,gay musilm dude or what? Your opinion is a big suprise.... ::)

1. Yes I do realize the amount of work and money that was invested on to that attack.

2. I'm 110% sure that whatever terrorists that are planning a attack on america are still free to do so despite the massive effort to bring them down. They are NOT stupid although their beliefs might be a bit on the moronic side. Do not underestimate them. How can you be so sure that they can't plan a attack when USA's bombing them? Vietcong still managed to survive despite the most massive bombing campaign in the history of ever. More bombs were dropped on them than there was dropped under the entire WW2. It also wouldn't surprise me one bit if a bunch of Al Qaidas already have infested your precious country. USA's foregin policys breeds enemies and they will find out a way to hurt you, it's just a matter of time.

3. That argument is irrelevant, DUCY?
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: FrenchFrie on February 25, 2008, 03:49:11 PM
And oh btw, how do you explain Hitler? He most certainly didn't come from some muslim "shithole" or some chinese opium den. Still he and his "white" companions stirred up more shit than you could imagine. We as "white" people are not as united you might think. He and you have the same basic thought although Hitler was albeit a bit more specified and extreme. Hitler wanted the "whites"/"aryans" to unite and become the dominating world power. So I guess my point is that diffirences in culture or political beliefs splits people 1000x more than skin color do. Usa and the Soviet Union both were "white nations" and still they almost nuked the entire world with their dispute.

Judge people for who they truly are, not by their pigments in their skin. Even though you might not like some people, still try to be friendly and do something about the situation rather than just whine, asshat.

oh damn...how old are you seriously....

listen u bitch just fucking go in africa or in middle east and tell people you like to take it in the can if you re unhappy with your own people in occident...

you have nothing to complain about, thats why you have to pretend to be gay to get some attention cause you cant do anything else like being smart, interesting or usefull to your owns.

most of us true conservative just want a big fucking wall all around our homelands and enjoy our prosperity, and that the blacks asian and arabs who live in our lands just stfu and comply with our rules...

I mean we just have to fucking act like the asian and arabs act; lmao is there any fucking WHITE politic in any arab or asian country? No , they re all asian , or fucking arabs, they wont even allow a white man to have any weight or anything to say about how they rule their societies.

We re the only ones who have yellow, brown, black , red politics in our occidental societies.

And its like its "normal", but how brainwashed and stupid white people can be to not being able to even see this simple fact?

We just want to live in peace with OUR OWNS, and our main concern is that FOREIGNERS with a DIFFERENT SKIN COLOR want to change OUR COUNTRIES LAWS and rules AFTER WE ALLOWED em to settle here in the first place.

The more we give em, the more they ask, and the more it is obvious that their only goal is finally to replace us and get everything we produced. They want to live in the white world...but without the whiteys.

What kind of stupid comparison are you trying to make between my point of view, bush 's point of view and HITLER point of view????

we re in a far different world than it was when hitler ruled germany, blacks were considered as animals, arabs as camel fuckers .
in only less than a century we allowed them to have the same status as us, and we recognized them this right.

What did we get in retrun? They want to change our societies and want to LEAD and RULE our societies.

Let me tell you one thing little moron, the next hitler will be black or mexican or muslim, and will lead a WHITE country, and will proceed to the imprisonment and destruction of the remaining whites/catholics who founded the land he has been able to lead.

Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 25, 2008, 03:54:45 PM
like we care what he is...

dont give him that impression or he ll feel the need to keep on telling us how a world where everyone fucks each other while smoking crack , in his opinion, is the point of life.

Well, I'm about as white and straight you could possibly be.. and atheist.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: The Coach on February 25, 2008, 03:59:44 PM
Well, I'm about as white and straight you could possibly be.. and atheist.

Your avatar is quite disturbing :-X
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Camel Jockey on February 25, 2008, 04:00:07 PM
Amazing, you just demonstrated my whole point. You only care about the money in your pocket. But the thing is, HIGH TAXES DO NOT KILL YOUR PERSONAL ECONOMY once the nation has adjusted to it. The country I live has one of the worlds highest taxes and it WORKS. People still get money for working and although with tragic exceptions, everyone has money to feed themselves and live in a clean and safe enviroment. We also have a huge immigration "problem" with people coming here and living off our welfare system. But you know what? I can still with my below average job pay for rent, food, hobbies and travels (with a very good marginal) and at the same time pay for taxes that makes sure that every citizen can be kept off hunger and poverty even though they are part of any those groups you just mentioned. Oh and if you were wondering, rich people are still rich in this country.

We have a certain demographic lined up for that in the US.  ::)

Americans don't want the US turned into Europe. Your mentality isn't the same as our's.

We already have a huge hispanic population coming and the last thing we need is to give them an incentive to come here for welfare. Atleast now they're providing cheap labor for businesses, but with huge free government handouts and free healthcare, they wont be coming here to work.

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I mean we just have to fucking act like the asian and arabs act; lmao is there any fucking WHITE politic in any arab or asian country? No , they re all asian , or fucking arabs, they wont even allow a white man to have any weight or anything to say about how they rule their societies.

lmao, another disgruntled redneck. Atleast learn to spell and then maybe an asian or indian wont take your job.  ;D

My point is that the United States is one of the last truely merit based countries in the world despite what people may say or think. You get what you put into life in the US. Maybe blacks and hispanics get a little more due to preferential treatment, but everyone who's sucessful or earns a living has earned it. It isn't the same in Europe where you can suck off tax payer money without doing an honest day's work. It isn't like some african or mideastern shithole where your daddy's name means all. I'd like to keep the US the way it is, and that means not molding into the model of any country in the European Union.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 25, 2008, 04:00:46 PM
oh damn...how old are you seriously....

listen u bitch just fucking go in africa or in middle east and tell people you like to take it in the can if you re unhappy with your own people in occident...

you have nothing to complain about, thats why you have to pretend to be gay to get some attention cause you cant do anything else like being smart, interesting or usefull to your owns.

most of us true conservative just want a big fucking wall all around our homelands and enjoy our prosperity, and that the blacks asian and arabs who live in our lands just stfu and comply with our rules...

I mean we just have to fucking act like the asian and arabs act; lmao is there any fucking WHITE politic in any arab or asian country? No , they re all asian , or fucking arabs, they wont even allow a white man to have any weight or anything to say about how they rule their societies.

We re the only ones who have yellow, brown, black , red politics in our occidental societies.

And its like its "normal", but how brainwashed and stupid white people can be to not being able to even see this simple fact?

We just want to live in peace with OUR OWNS, and our main concern is that FOREIGNERS with a DIFFERENT SKIN COLOR want to change OUR COUNTRIES LAWS and rules AFTER WE ALLOWED em to settle here in the first place.

The more we give em, the more they ask, and the more it is obvious that their only goal is finally to replace us and get everything we produced. They want to live in the white world...but without the whiteys.

What kind of stupid comparison are you trying to make between my point of view, bush 's point of view and HITLER point of view????

we re in a far different world than it was when hitler ruled germany, blacks were considered as animals, arabs as camel fuckers .
in only less than a century we allowed them to have the same status as us, and we recognized them this right.

What did we get in retrun? They want to change our societies and want to LEAD and RULE our societies.

Let me tell you one thing little moron, the next hitler will be black or mexican or muslim, and will lead a WHITE country, and will proceed to the imprisonment and destruction of the remaining whites/catholics who founded the land he has been able to lead.



I understand your reasoning but you still posess one MAJOR flaw: You judge and define people by their looks and appearence, not by their own personal beliefs. Do you seriously think that france was founded entirely on a group of people that haven't been influenced by other types of people and cultures?
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 25, 2008, 04:04:14 PM
Your avatar is quite disturbing :-X

Well, I got that avatar from the beginning as a joke to do exactly just that, disturb you people.

But now when more and more people complain about it I choose to keep it to sorta make a statement. Gay people exist and they do make out and fuck eachother just as much straight people do. Accept it.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Camel Jockey on February 25, 2008, 04:07:06 PM
First , your fagish avatar explain why you dont like Bush.

Second , go look at the numbers , ONE bombing that destroyed two towers (not at their full capacity) killed the same number of people that a long war did.

Do you really think its that hard to destroy a building? Poison a city's water pipes ? Bio/Chem/Atom bomb exploding in a crowded city can have a deathtoll in the 100,000's+++....ever thought of that?

What about the Arabs controlling your life with the price of oil? You will be so pissed if you suddenly have NO fuel and NO power at home.

So yes Bush doesnt want fags to marry , get over that , he rocks.


You're one dumb son of a bitch. First of all, the price of oil is determined not by Arab producers, but by US, Chinese and Indian cosumers. If you don't want the price of oil to be very high, then why not start an anti-SUV campaign? And next time you decide to speak on an economic issue, please, do everyone else a favor and read about supply and demand. And last time I checked, the US is the world's 3rd largest producer of oil, just behind Russia.

And Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Pretty much 19 of the hijackers were all Saudi or Egyptian. The major terrorists organizations and their members wanting to inflict damage on the US aren't of Iraqi origin, but from Egypt and the Arabian peninsula. But explaining this is pointless because you're a dumbfuck. Go stick a 'THESE COLORS DON'T RUN' sticker in your pickup and shut the fuck up about issues you'll never understand.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: FrenchFrie on February 25, 2008, 04:19:37 PM
I understand your reasoning but you still posess one MAJOR flaw: You judge and define people by their looks and appearence, not by their own personal beliefs. Do you seriously think that france was founded entirely on a group of people that haven't been influenced by other types of people and cultures?

ok listen to this genius, when there are more arabs, for example, than whites in a french suburb, even if there's a moderate and hard working arab who wants to integrate among them, all the others hateful force the whites to move away . They hunt em down, threaten em with racist insults, until all the whites have gone.Once its done, once they rule the area and that police and firemen dont even dare to come fearing to be beaten to death, more arabs inhabit the empty appartments.

The hard working and "willing to integrate" good arab didnt say shit in the whole process, he followed his fellows, because they all belong to the same COMMUNITY first of all defined by their skin color.

But its something you didnt experience, and you cannot understand.

And you know what its called? It's called REALITY.
And everywhere this scheme takes place, everything always end the same way.


The problem with people like you, is precisely that they think they re too smart to simply see things like they are.
The problem wit people like you is that you think that you only say "wise" and "cool" sounding things to survive, and that you dont believe that at some point in life, you also have to fight with your fists and defend your ideas .The problem with people like you is that they dont understand the world, they dont see it with their own eyes, they just swallow what tv tells em on a daily basis.
I mean, i just have to go in the street and i'm sure any moron i would engage in conversation with, would say EXACTLY the very same clichés you say. You are empty.  you try to sound cool but...EVERYONE think like you, what kind of risk are you taking sharing your "deep" and "wise" politcally correct bullshits seriously?

and i dont even insist on the fact that you obviously have no idea what im talking about cause you never experienced it.

I'm just saying that from where i am, it is obvious that north america is taking the exact same way europe did.And the result will be the same.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 25, 2008, 04:33:26 PM
ok listen to this genius, when there are more arabs, for example, than whites in a french suburb, even if there's a moderate and hard working arab who wants to integrate among them, all the others hateful force the whites to move away . They hunt em down, threaten em with racist insults, until all the whites have gone.Once its done, once they rule the area and that police and firemen dont even dare to come fearing to be beaten to death, more arabs inhabit the empty appartments.

The hard working and "willing to integrate" good arab didnt say shit in the whole process, he followed his fellows, because they all belong to the same COMMUNITY first of all defined by their skin color.

But its something you didnt experience, and you cannot understand.

And you know what its called? It's called REALITY.
And everywhere this scheme takes place, everything always end the same way.


The problem with people like you, is precisely that they think they re too smart to simply see things like they are.
The problem wit people like you is that you think that you only say "wise" and "cool" sounding things to survive, and that you dont believe that at some point in life, you also have to fight with your fists and defend your ideas .The problem with people like you is that they dont understand the world, they dont see it with their own eyes, they just swallow what tv tells em on a daily basis.
I mean, i just have to go in the street and i'm sure any moron i would engage in conversation with, would say EXACTLY the very same clichés you say. You are empty.  you try to sound cool but...EVERYONE think like you, what kind of risk are you taking sharing your "deep" and "wise" politcally correct bullshits seriously?






Lol you have to be a gimmick.

On a sidenote, yes I'm very aware that I'm using alot of cliches and cool stuff to say. But I'm atleast trying to back it up with sound reasoning. Your are not backing up your claims at all.

You see a potential "threat" that you personally don't like. You start to mumble away on some doomsday theory even though this is all in your imagination. Yes people are immigrating into europe and they have been for centuries. Your making it sound like the immigrants (which now also are french/european and not to be considered immigrants anymore after a generation or two) will produce the quadruple amount of babys than the native (lol) people and start to outnumbering them. I'm you sure you'll see that the mixture of people will in the end be balanced and as long democracy remains, there is still hope. These types of changes are gonna be slow and there will be doubters like you. But you have to understand that influence of other cultures has been going since the beginning of mankind. Accept it and embrace it. Trying to drastically change it or stop it with drastic measures is a great precursor to war (see Hitler and WW2).
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Camel Jockey on February 25, 2008, 04:50:25 PM
You sound fairly educated.

Then explain to me how america (usa) came to be? Did all the americans just suddenly pop up out of nowhere and become true natives? Or could it possibly be that USA is one big immigrant-infested place to begin with?

You choose universal healthcare because you care about people's wellbeing, not your big fat unbalanced wallet. No matter how you're doing now you might find yourself or someone very dear to you end up in the american health insurance swamp that cares more about hosing money rather than treating people. Just think about that situation, don't deny it would suck if you if for some reason couldn't pay for your insurance (or if you get screwed by your insurance company) and find yourself helpless because of the mentality that people shouldn't help eachother.

My family works pretty hard and gets by. We're not wealthy, but we're not poor either and live in comfort due to the work we put in.

But it's difficult for me to see why someone who can milk a system that gives for free should be allowed to do so. Not everyone that'll benefit from the Universal healthcare plan will be some poor, blue collar working individual in need of help. A lot of them will be crazed druggies who'll end up needing healthcare because they smoke too much crack, or because they drink malt liquior like tap water.

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the "groups i'm accusing" live in the same neighborhood than mine, thanks to the "social mixity" programm instaured by our politics.  For the majority of em, they dont work, harrass wite people in gangs and waith their welfare check while watching tv on their flat screens, play playstation all day long and wake up in the afternoon. Then they proceed to smoke some weed and/or sell some.

Since when do Arabs, Indians and Asians sit around? Most of them in US work a lot of hours and have their own types of businesses. Maybe you live in Europe?

The people you are describing sound like black people to me. Like the other day I went to the DMV and the black lady serving me was talking on the cellphone, lacked formal manners, was rude, and had difficulty accepting a single change of adress form for my driver's license. No doubt this lady was a product of affirmative action. If America becomes like Europe, we'll be giving others the incentive to do as that black lady did. And mark my words, with an emerging global economy, we really can't afford to be turning into some inefficient socialist state.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 25, 2008, 04:55:08 PM
the "groups i'm accusing" live in the same neighborhood than mine, thanks to the "social mixity" programm instaured by our politics.  For the majority of em, they dont work, harrass wite people in gangs and waith their welfare check while watching tv on their flat screens, play playstation all day long and wake up in the afternoon. Then they proceed to smoke some weed and/or sell some.
Sometime they are forced to have a part time job for just one month, in order to receive welfare checks for an aditional 3 years long period.
They burn WHITE people cars sometimes. In muslim blackor asian cars, they have stuff that signals they belong to the black asian or arab community, this way they dont burn their fellows cars, but only the whiteys cars.
Police have orders, coming from the politic; dont do shit. Let the whites flee, its none of our business.

Considering they dont work, they just spend money on clothes tv and cars, that the government forces private and public firms to recruit them for the very few who accept to live and work with "white subhuman scum" , it is known for a fact here that most of em have more money on their bank account that the 9 to 5 white worker, who doenst benefit from any help check from the government.

Hope this helps.

Where I'm living, this exact thing is also happening. Oh the terror, oh the crimes, oh the filthy little immigrants are wrecking our country. Poor us natives.

I'm not saying that immigration is painless and can be done without a few sweats and tears. You just have to make sure you have the right mentality about it. No matter what you say, those immigrants will not disappear from your neighborhood so it's no use to whine. The only real solution is trying to integrate them. It is the only longterm way of solving these problems but you don't think further than your own nose.

I'm not claiming to have the solution to all these problems that I agree with you, do exist.

WARNING: CLICHÉ!!!!

If your not a part of the solution, then you're the fucking problem itself.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2008, 05:04:58 PM
The important thing to remember- and this gets lost in the world of namecalling "libs and neocons" -

is that we're all on the SAME SIDE - the USA.

We all want what is best for our country.  we just have different viewpoints as to how to reach it!
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 25, 2008, 05:09:43 PM

But it's difficult for me to see why someone who can milk a system that gives for free should be allowed to do so. Not everyone that'll benefit from the Universal healthcare plan will be some poor, blue collar working individual in need of help. A lot of them will be crazed druggies who'll end up needing healthcare because they smoke too much crack, or because they drink malt liquior like tap water.


Well this is something that america problaby will struggle with for a veeeeery long time. I think most of that "trash" you're speaking of is a direct byproduct of the american society and it's problaby the society itself that prevents it from changing, not the intiative if you understand what I mean.

In my country we also have that type of trash but not nearly the amounts of % you do. Problaby because we have beem socialized for so long now that the whole system has been rebuilt from the ground up and these type of people is getting more rare. America has very much of the whole spectrum of people. Extremely poor, poor, low-class, middle-class, higher-class and those who are stinkin rich. You basically have a very uneven distrubited wealth while in my country our spectrum begins at low/mid-class and ends with high-class with a very (!) few exceptions. So universal healthcare is much easier to execute here than in america I suppose.

There just seems to be something very fundemental about the US that has problaby damaged the nation for good. Can't really point my finger at what it is.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: FrenchFrie on February 25, 2008, 05:11:57 PM
My family works pretty hard and gets by. We're not wealthy, but we're not poor either and live in comfort due to the work we put in.

But it's difficult for me to see why someone who can milk a system that gives for free should be allowed to do so. Not everyone that'll benefit from the Universal healthcare plan will be some poor, blue collar working individual in need of help. A lot of them will be crazed druggies who'll end up needing healthcare because they smoke too much crack, or because they drink malt liquior like tap water.

Since when do Arabs, Indians and Asians sit around? Most of them in US work a lot of hours and have their own types of businesses. Maybe you live in Europe?

The people you are describing sound like black people to me. Like the other day I went to the DMV and the black lady serving me was talking on the cellphone, lacked formal manners, was rude, and had difficulty accepting a single change of adress form for my driver's license. No doubt this lady was a product of affirmative action. If America becomes like Europe, we'll be giving others the incentive to do as that black lady did. And mark my words, with an emerging global economy, we really can't afford to be turning into some inefficient socialist state.

what will you do if one day you and your owns are more numerous than whites in north america ?(yes as i said it I currently fucking live in FRANCe hence my name)
If your dumber "brothers" start rampagning on the whites, will you follow, stay away, or...?

we all know that you will either take part or stay away and watch. Thats absolutely normal, and i have no problem with this.   The only thing that matters to me is what a communtiy do to another community when they outnumber em.

only the whites had the stupid illusion that we could live along with other skin colored communities in our homelands. 
Even if you're smart, worth a discussion, at some point in the history of mankind, we will have to take side, thats the world we live in, thats the world we re going to live in.

As i said it , here in europe arabs and blacks are outnumbering us and gaining more and more ground politically. Here in europe we dont know what to do with this growing number of people who hate us, and instead of integrate obviously want everything we have and have a hard time standing our presence anymore, now they gained so much attention and rights.


i'm not trying to have any judgment on what is going on worlwide,yeah its sad, my race is disapearing, but, im just analysing it and saying it like it is.  After all we cant do much about it.
Im just stating the fact that wathever we do or say, there are people who dont "really" like us nor want to share their lives with us because they consider themsleves belonging to "something else" than occidental societies, and that the problem is these people LIVE IN OUR territories and that in the end, they simply take over us without any remorse and with a huge feelign of satisfaction and revenge.

You may be as smart as i am, but again you re not from my civilisation, and the day you ll be part of the majority, you ll have absolutely no second thought killing my owns or myself.

Thats all i'm trying to say. We belong to specific communities and the whites are the only ones who deny this obvious fact.Thats precisely why they allowed all of this to happen, when THERE S NO OTHER RACE THAT DO THE SAME ON EARTH.

Asians , arabs, blacks, dont mix with whites. Only the whites decided that they HAD to mix with arabs, blacks, indians etc.

One day, there will be more latinoamerican/mexicans than whites in north america.  The presidents of the united states, of canada, will be muslims, or blacks.  Catholicism wont exist anymore . Maybe islam will gain ground.
Whites will become small comunities.
It will happen in europe first.

In middle east/arab countries, they ll still be ALL ARAB/muslim.

In asia, they ll still be all ASIANS.

In africa, they still be all BLACK.



Should i care what you think ? no, the only thing i care about is that i do not want to see my owns disapear, i do not want to disapear .

I know im talking about very extreme mental images here, but these things are going to happen quicker than all of you think.

Muslims think about this EVERYSINGLE DAY.  Asians too.

They re planning all of this, they know it will happen. It is HAPPENING in europe at the moment.

we are not meant to live together as "brothers". there's a reason we have a different views of the world, different main religions, if we have a different skin color, thats because we are, different.
I thin there only one human race, but that it is divided in to several humans species, and that these species will fight until the smartest/most powerful one will rule. In this fight against the other human species, the whites, my side, are obviously losing. But i sometime happen to think that once the whites will be erased, asians will simply hunt down the streets of the world cities everythign that is not yellow skinned. It means that even if muslims, latino americans and blacks will take over the whites (with the help of the whites themselves), asians wont do the same mistake and will take care of your asses.

The whites are denying they are different from the others human species. they dont even consider themselves as a unique and specific human specie that has to survive against other human species. Thats no "wisdom" to me, that's stupidity,and  the proof of the extinction of our instinct of survival.
That's what will cause their own doom.
We as whites tried to be an example for all mankind, for all the human species on earth, but we ultimately failed because in the process of sharing and giving everything we have, we forgot who we are and that we were and still are something really unique, that no other specie can replace. We wanted a world where anyone can, wathever his skin color, could be represented equally to the others. But it will never happen, because asians and arabs dont want to disapear in this global , uniform melting pot.  And they simply let us do our thing, they know is wrong, and then will take over what remains of our folly.
In some way, most white people nowadays think they re not worth anything, and that they dont contribute to anything positive to mankind anymore. Most white people are ashamed of their own existance and want to be pardonned by the other human species (black, arabs, etc) . That s where we reached. From the greek philosophes to now, we wanted a perfect world , where everyone is happy and friendly whatever the differences, to finally find out that it's an illusion, we re all different from each others, and only the strongest , smartest, will survive.
We dont consider strenght or inteligence as being valuable, as being respectable. White youths have no models, idols, heroes anymore. Our youths dont have the RIGHT to admire anyone of their own skin color, without being immediately labeled as nazis worshiping a new "hitler".
thats why they try to find models to follow in the OTHER , DIFFERENT cultures, and thats why most young whites want to be rappers, nba stars, or islamist jihadists (cool "bad ass" ninja oufits and RPG , you can shoot shose silly white guys who are in the bad WHITE and OCCIDENTAL NAZI ARMY OF THE USA) instead of being researchers, teachers etc.
We got our own identity completely erased.


Everyday a white man goes into a street, he sees more and more arabs, blacks, indians, asians. He sees less and less white people. He sees less and less people of his own "community".
Politics and medias brainwashed him to the point he doesnt even consider himself belonging to a community, so he has a very strange feeling, he knows soemthing is going terribly wrong, but he cant figure what it is, because he cannot even realize he belong to something that is disapearing. Foreigners, politics, and medias, denied him the right to feel that he belongs to a community, the white, occidental community.

Everyday you , smart camel jockey, you see more and more arabs in your neighborhood, or blacks, or mexicans, or whatever, and less and less whiteys.
And you dont care.

Because we as whites arent part of what is important to you.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 25, 2008, 05:15:48 PM
The important thing to remember- and this gets lost in the world of namecalling "libs and neocons" -

is that we're all on the SAME SIDE - the USA.

We all want what is best for our country.  we just have different viewpoints as to how to reach it!

Well, true to some extent. At some point when you choose your viewpoint you have to prioritate: 1.Do I care for the wellbeing of all fellow citizens no matter their diffirences?

2. Each and everyone to their own and hope for the best?

Which basically boils down to the whole left vs right thingy lol

I think some people might care more about themselves than USA in fact, using america as an instrument to acheive their success.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on February 25, 2008, 05:16:14 PM
i cant fuckin stand this hag, shes by far themost phoney candidate out there. now that shes down shes pulling all kinds of shameless dirty stuff.
they all agreed on the rules prior to the start of contests. but now she wants her 'win' in michigan and florida to count for her  ::) even though obama wasnt even on the ballot  ::)
fucking smug crusty hag
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: FrenchFrie on February 25, 2008, 06:07:11 PM


The people you are describing sound like black people to me. Like the other day I went to the DMV and the black lady serving me was talking on the cellphone, lacked formal manners, was rude, and had difficulty accepting a single change of adress form for my driver's license. No doubt this lady was a product of affirmative action. If America becomes like Europe, we'll be giving others the incentive to do as that black lady did. And mark my words, with an emerging global economy, we really can't afford to be turning into some inefficient socialist state.

too bad it will happen nonetheless, and you know why? because there are more stupid people in our modern occidental societies than smart ones. you cannot produce a majority of inteligent people with leftist controlled TV, medias, ads, sports and politics. These people are leading themselves into oblivion, and you and i cannot do shit against it. They want obsama as a president.

look at them cheering  him.  They want it so bad, this perfect world where black whites arabs walk hand in hand with  each other in a friendly manner on a daily basis...poor retards have not even the slightest clue of what will happen to them.

It's a new phenomenon to have white people worship colored people,thats because it's NEW that we wont be able to prevent it from hapening.

In our modern world of global and immediate telecommunication, people want "changes", want to be "amazed", want to be "cool" and "fashion", and forgot some very important things that are:

-values
-ethic
-instinct of survival
-belonging to a community


With the help of victimized muslims  and blacks, victimized latino american, medias (TV essentially) and politics succesfully
destroyed these fundamental principles of the white civilisation in most white's people minds.

I doubt it was conscious of em to do that, i just think that after lying to so many people, they ended by lying to themselves and forgot who they are and what was the point of belonging to occident.
Problem is, they have the control of people's minds.

Fools are leading fools.

Asians are no fools.

And muslims want everyone that is not muslim to die.

Not hard to understand how we reached that current situation worldwide.


Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: calmus on February 25, 2008, 06:19:48 PM
too bad it will happen nonetheless, and you know why? because there are more stupid people in our modern occidental societies than smart ones. you cannot produce a majority of inteligent people with leftist controlled TV, medias, ads, sports and politics. These people are leading themselves into oblivion, and you and i cannot do shit against it. They want obsama as a president.

look at them cheering  him.  They want it so bad, this perfect world where black whites arabs walk hand in hand with  each other in a friendly manner on a daily basis...poor retards have not even the slightest clue of what will happen to them.

It's a new phenomenon to have white people worship colored people,thats because it's NEW that we wont be able to prevent it from hapening.

In our modern world of global and immediate telecommunication, people want "changes", want to be "amazed", want to be "cool" and "fashion", and forgot some very important things that are:

-values
-ethic
-instinct of survival
-belonging to a community


With the help of victimized muslims  and blacks, victimized latino american, medias (TV essentially) and politics succesfully
destroyed these fundamental principles of the white civilisation in most white's people minds.

I doubt it was conscious of em to do that, i just think that after lying to so many people, they ended by lying to themselves and forgot who they are and what was the point of belonging to occident.
Problem is, they have the control of people's minds.

Fools are leading fools.

Asians are no fools.

And muslims want everyone that is not muslim to die.

Not hard to understand how we reached that current situation worldwide.




All right, you can STFU now, you retarded frog.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Triple-H_2005 on February 25, 2008, 07:24:13 PM
Exception to the rule:  Children.  They should not be penalized for being brought into the world by someone that cannot support them.


Remember a few months back when bush vetoed the S-CHIP bill which would have given healthcare to every child in America?
Talk about the pork.  What ELSE was in the bill?  That's the problem with Congress.  No bill has just one thing.  There's always a load of pork.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: IFBBwannaB on February 26, 2008, 02:58:09 AM
1. Yes I do realize the amount of work and money that was invested on to that attack.

2. I'm 110% sure that whatever terrorists that are planning a attack on america are still free to do so despite the massive effort to bring them down. They are NOT stupid although their beliefs might be a bit on the moronic side. Do not underestimate them. How can you be so sure that they can't plan a attack when USA's bombing them? Vietcong still managed to survive despite the most massive bombing campaign in the history of ever. More bombs were dropped on them than there was dropped under the entire WW2. It also wouldn't surprise me one bit if a bunch of Al Qaidas already have infested your precious country. USA's foregin policys breeds enemies and they will find out a way to hurt you, it's just a matter of time.

3. That argument is irrelevant, DUCY?

In case you missed it Afg and Iraq are being dealt by more than just air raids, if it was only air raids there would be no casualties.Its the ground forces that take casualties , and they are the ones that make the terror cells to fear and interrupt them from forming attacks.
You seem to be more passive about keeping the US safe than when you take it up the butt.

About the dirty bomb its 100% relevent since those bombs need to be delivered to the terror groups from someone...hmmm let say...chem/bio stuff from uncle Saddam and Abomb from cousin Iran....those aren't your regular explosives bombs that its extremely hard to control.
Kill the source and you killed the problem , do you prefer seeing a US version of Hiroshima?
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: BayGBM on February 26, 2008, 08:08:00 AM
SNL on Hillary.  ;D


Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: lovemonkey on February 26, 2008, 09:41:54 AM
In case you missed it Afg and Iraq are being dealt by more than just air raids, if it was only air raids there would be no casualties.Its the ground forces that take casualties , and they are the ones that make the terror cells to fear and interrupt them from forming attacks.
You seem to be more passive about keeping the US safe than when you take it up the butt.

About the dirty bomb its 100% relevent since those bombs need to be delivered to the terror groups from someone...hmmm let say...chem/bio stuff from uncle Saddam and Abomb from cousin Iran....those aren't your regular explosives bombs that its extremely hard to control.
Kill the source and you killed the problem , do you prefer seeing a US version of Hiroshima?

The reason I pushed the airstrike argument was simply because you did.

And please, you truly have been foxinized. Saddam had NOTHING to do with the terror attacks on america, the only people that still belives that are the ones that have fallen victim to the american right wing/Bush propaganda.

You bashin gays just proves my point about you.
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: IFBBwannaB on February 26, 2008, 09:35:10 PM
The reason I pushed the airstrike argument was simply because you did.

And please, you truly have been foxinized. Saddam had NOTHING to do with the terror attacks on america, the only people that still belives that are the ones that have fallen victim to the american right wing/Bush propaganda.

You bashin gays just proves my point about you.


I have never seen FOX news in my life,so stop tring to show your great wisdom.

The airstrike was just an example to one of the things they do at the war,the fact that you choose to target that shows how narrow is your view.

If you think Saddam had nothing to do with world terror groups you're a fool.

MY gay bashing is my choice,so you want to marry your bodyfriend and I cant say what I think about it? Who is really against free speach than?
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: War-Horse on February 27, 2008, 09:45:14 AM

I have never seen FOX news in my life,so stop tring to show your great wisdom.

The airstrike was just an example to one of the things they do at the war,the fact that you choose to target that shows how narrow is your view.

If you think Saddam had nothing to do with world terror groups you're a fool.

MY gay bashing is my choice,so you want to marry your bodyfriend and I cant say what I think about it? Who is really against free speach than?



You have proved yourself to be a true idiot in this thread.  Limbaugh and Hannity would be proud.   

 I guess we should be honored to have 1 of their 6 listeners in the whole world to be on our board.... ::)
Title: Re: Hillary getting desperate
Post by: Cap on February 27, 2008, 09:51:01 AM
Frenchfrie, Catholicism will not disappear if Latinos become the majority, it will increase.  90+ % of Mexicans and others are Catholic, good try though.