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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2008, 10:32:00 AM »
For longterm US interests, Bush did a great thing.

We (US firms in US dollars) manage Iraqi and Afghan (caspian) oil.
The US has set up permanent bases in the region.
The US has ensured the dollar will still remain relevant.

The cost has been 5 trillion dollars, borrowed from China mostly.

The gain?  Well, iraq alone has $50 to 75 trill worth of saleable oil.  Caspian oil is 10 at worst and estimated to be more.

The bush admin did a necessary thing.  They said in 2000 they'd do it - they wrote the PNAC document (cheney, Rummy, Jeb, wolfy, bolton and others) detailing plans to control arabian oil and positioning.  Then they did it - exactly as they said they would.

Problem now is that some Americans (rich ones) have been getting fat and living large off the tax cuts for the wealthy, and a dem will bring that back to earth.  

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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2008, 10:45:13 AM »
What happens if oil stops trading in dollars as its collapsing.   Some countries are starting right now.
Wheres the wealth, then??

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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2008, 10:46:10 AM »
What happens if oil stops trading in dollars as its collapsing.   Some countries are starting right now.
Wheres the wealth, then??

They won't have a choice.  If you want Iraqi, Caspian, or maybe Iranian oil, you pay dollars.

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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2008, 11:00:22 AM »
NO ONE will be bringing the troops home anytime soon, that would be a mistake and even the libs admitted that. Universal health care is a freaking joke and more people will die or will have to wait to get treatment.........why the hell do you think people from other countries come here for major treatment?
We have Universal Health care, some people choose to have private health care but it does not discriminate for those who do not.Australia is on the cutting edge of specialised treatment.
And our Taxes are being reduced to an all time low in the next Budget.
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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2008, 11:03:16 AM »
I vote for Hilary VS Ob(s)ama fight to the death , the winner will get a shot to the head.
Win win situation. ;D

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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2008, 11:21:37 AM »
NO ONE will be bringing the troops home anytime soon, that would be a mistake and even the libs admitted that. Universal health care is a freaking joke and more people will die or will have to wait to get treatment.........why the hell do you think people from other countries come here for major treatment?
and france is to be ending their social med plan. 40% tax is too much (ask the countries that have "free" health care.  ;)

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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2008, 12:26:44 PM »
NO ONE will be bringing the troops home anytime soon, that would be a mistake and even the libs admitted that. Universal health care is a freaking joke and more people will die or will have to wait to get treatment.........why the hell do you think people from other countries come here for major treatment?

You really are an conservatie american aren't you? As a citizen in a country with universal healthcare, I can say with confidence that I wouldn't want to move somewhere without it. Yes we have high taxes
but if you just took your eyes off your own greedy wallet and started to look around, you would notice that everybody is not as fortunate as you are. But you problaby have the way of thinking "It's their own fault, everybody must stand on their own". If thats the case then I feel sorry for you and those around you.

Speakin of the healthcare btw, no system is perfect but with universal healthcare the whole point is that NOONE gets left behind. It might take a bit longer to get treatment than a rich american with a private doctor, but still you get healthcare for FREE which I belive ends up saving more lives than taking when comparing to your system. Oh and LOL, isn't there like 50 million americans that doesn't have a health insurance? Sounds like a great result for your (the american) way of dealing with things. But I guess that's ok as long you can afford your own insurance, because thats only thing that matters right?

And NO I'm not a communist btw. I just try to form my opinions with logic and care for my fellow humans. Money isn't everything.

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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2008, 12:29:03 PM »
Folks just vote white male Republican and get a good nights rest.

so you're happy with Bush's performance?

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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2008, 12:30:49 PM »
Holy shit, I sense a Joe meltdown coming......DELETE ACOUNT, DELETE ACCOUNT.

Youre no match for 240, dumbass....

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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2008, 12:52:17 PM »
Universal health care is a freaking joke

Yup.  Must be.  Otherwise why would the United States be the only wealthy industrialized nation that does not provide universal health care?

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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2008, 12:53:39 PM »
For longterm US interests, Bush did a great thing.

We (US firms in US dollars) manage Iraqi and Afghan (caspian) oil.
The US has set up permanent bases in the region.
The US has ensured the dollar will still remain relevant.

The cost has been 5 trillion dollars, borrowed from China mostly.

The gain?  Well, iraq alone has $50 to 75 trill worth of saleable oil.  Caspian oil is 10 at worst and estimated to be more.

The bush admin did a necessary thing.  They said in 2000 they'd do it - they wrote the PNAC document (cheney, Rummy, Jeb, wolfy, bolton and others) detailing plans to control arabian oil and positioning.  Then they did it - exactly as they said they would.

Problem now is that some Americans (rich ones) have been getting fat and living large off the tax cuts for the wealthy, and a dem will bring that back to earth.  

Not to mention taking the war to their grounds.
You cant stay in defensive mode,you cant keep track of everything and anyone that gets in the US.
The death toll of 9/11 was almost the same as the entire Iraqi war,by taking the war to them you make your home safer and with the possibility of a dirty bomb exploding in a major city this sort of action is a must.

Bush is a cowboy,he saw the target and went for it and said fuck all you idiots that say no.
There is a reason to why a president have veto power and is almost impossible to be impeached,its in order to give him the freedom and safety to do longterm plans and thats what Bush did.

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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2008, 01:02:27 PM »
Not to mention taking the war to their grounds.
You cant stay in defensive mode,you cant keep track of everything and anyone that gets in the US.
The death toll of 9/11 was almost the same as the entire Iraqi war,by taking the war to them you make your home safer and with the possibility of a dirty bomb exploding in a major city this sort of action is a must.

Bush is a cowboy,he saw the target and went for it and said fuck all you idiots that say no.
There is a reason to why a president have veto power and is almost impossible to be impeached,its in order to give him the freedom and safety to do longterm plans and thats what Bush did.

I love BUSH as well


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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2008, 01:02:51 PM »
Not to mention taking the war to their grounds.
You cant stay in defensive mode,you cant keep track of everything and anyone that gets in the US.
The death toll of 9/11 was almost the same as the entire Iraqi war,by taking the war to them you make your home safer and with the possibility of a dirty bomb exploding in a major city this sort of action is a must.

Bush is a cowboy,he saw the target and went for it and said fuck all you idiots that say no.
There is a reason to why a president have veto power and is almost impossible to be impeached,its in order to give him the freedom and safety to do longterm plans and thats what Bush did.

lol what war are you really talking about? Have you been FOXinized? I'm pretty sure that if Osama or who the fuck ever wanted to attack the US again, he would be pretty much unstoppable if he/they know what they're doing. Tbh, I think George Bush himself have been a greater threat to america than osama ever was. Osama kills a few thousand americans. Bush kills even more soldiers and civilians by starting a war and at the same time manages to bring down the US economy and welfare.
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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2008, 01:11:29 PM »
Bush kills even more soldiers and civilians by starting a war and at the same time manages to bring down the US economy and welfare.

but that's small potatoes compared to getting a hummer in the oval office.

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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2008, 01:38:46 PM »
lol what war are you really talking about? Have you been FOXinized? I'm pretty sure that if Osama or who the fuck ever wanted to attack the US again, he would be pretty much unstoppable if he/they know what they're doing. Tbh, I think George Bush himself have been a greater threat to america than osama ever was. Osama kills a few thousand americans. Bush kills even more soldiers and civilians by starting a war and at the same time manages to bring down the US economy and welfare.

First , your fagish avatar explain why you dont like Bush.

Second , go look at the numbers , ONE bombing that destroyed two towers (not at their full capacity) killed the same number of people that a long war did.

Do you really think its that hard to destroy a building? Poison a city's water pipes ? Bio/Chem/Atom bomb exploding in a crowded city can have a deathtoll in the 100,000's+++....ever thought of that?

What about the Arabs controlling your life with the price of oil? You will be so pissed if you suddenly have NO fuel and NO power at home.

So yes Bush doesnt want fags to marry , get over that , he rocks.

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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2008, 01:46:19 PM »
Oh and LOL, isn't there like 50 million americans that doesn't have a health insurance? Sounds like a great result for your (the american) way of dealing with things. But I guess that's ok as long you can afford your own insurance, because thats only thing that matters right?



Bro, I  didn't go back to college and live on tuna and oatmeal and ramen noodles for 3 years, graduate, get a great job and work my ass off so (select whichever group for which your heart is currently bleeding):

Unwed mothers of bastard childrent that can't keep their legs together
Shiftless layabouts that won't work
Those currently abusing the government entitlement system
Dope-heads
Drunks

can get free healthcare.  If you don't put into the pot, why in the world should you be allowed to live off of the sweat of others?

Exception to the rule:  Children.  They should not be penalized for being brought into the world by someone that cannot support them.

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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2008, 01:49:57 PM »
Bro, I  didn't go back to college and live on tuna and oatmeal and ramen noodles for 3 years, graduate, get a great job and work my ass off so (select whichever group for which your heart is currently bleeding):

Unwed mothers of bastard childrent that can't keep their legs together
Shiftless layabouts that won't work
Those currently abusing the government entitlement system
Dope-heads
Drunks

can get free healthcare.  If you don't put into the pot, why in the world should you be allowed to live off of the sweat of others?

Exception to the rule:  Children.  They should not be penalized for being brought into the world by someone that cannot support them.

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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2008, 01:50:01 PM »
Bro, I  didn't go back to college and live on tuna and oatmeal and ramen noodles for 3 years, graduate, get a great job and work my ass off so (select whichever group for which your heart is currently bleeding):

Unwed mothers of bastard childrent that can't keep their legs together
Shiftless layabouts that won't work
Those currently abusing the government entitlement system
Dope-heads
Drunks

can get free healthcare.  If you don't put into the pot, why in the world should you be allowed to live off of the sweat of others?

Exception to the rule:  Children.  They should not be penalized for being brought into the world by someone that cannot support them.

You are all a bunch of degenerates.  Do you understand what it is like to live in a society?  If you want to make money and keep it all to yourself then feel free but move off of the grid.
When you're part of a society you must contribute to be part of it.  No free rides.

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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2008, 01:51:02 PM »
I think George Bush himself have been a greater threat to america than osama ever was.

Yep

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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2008, 01:51:36 PM »
The alternative to McCain has the worst fucking policies ever.

Obama wants to spend away and turn the US into Europe..

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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #45 on: February 25, 2008, 01:57:44 PM »
Universal health care is a freaking joke and more people will die or will have to wait to get treatment.........why the hell do you think people from other countries come here for major treatment?
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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #46 on: February 25, 2008, 02:00:19 PM »
You are all a bunch of degenerates.  Do you understand what it is like to live in a society?  If you want to make money and keep it all to yourself then feel free but move off of the grid.
When you're part of a society you must contribute to be part of it.  No free rides.
EXACTLY!

NO
FREE
RIDES!

Especially not on my back.

You want healthcare?  Either get an education and get a job that provides a program OR make some personal sacrifices.  Turn off the cable, internet (society thrived before it was invented), cell phone (you can live without that, too), quit buying brand names and drive a cheaper car and BUY YOUR OWN INSURANCE.

The government isn't your mom.


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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #47 on: February 25, 2008, 02:01:29 PM »
Bro, I  didn't go back to college and live on tuna and oatmeal and ramen noodles for 3 years, graduate, get a great job and work my ass off so (select whichever group for which your heart is currently bleeding):

Unwed mothers of bastard childrent that can't keep their legs together
Shiftless layabouts that won't work
Those currently abusing the government entitlement system
Dope-heads
Drunks

can get free healthcare.  If you don't put into the pot, why in the world should you be allowed to live off of the sweat of others?

Exception to the rule:  Children.  They should not be penalized for being brought into the world by someone that cannot support them.

Amazing, you just demonstrated my whole point. You only care about the money in your pocket. But the thing is, HIGH TAXES DO NOT KILL YOUR PERSONAL ECONOMY once the nation has adjusted to it. The country I live has one of the worlds highest taxes and it WORKS. People still get money for working and although with tragic exceptions, everyone has money to feed themselves and live in a clean and safe enviroment. We also have a huge immigration "problem" with people coming here and living off our welfare system. But you know what? I can still with my below average job pay for rent, food, hobbies and travels (with a very good marginal) and at the same time pay for taxes that makes sure that every citizen can be kept off hunger and poverty even though they are part of any those groups you just mentioned. Oh and if you were wondering, rich people are still rich in this country.
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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #48 on: February 25, 2008, 02:02:56 PM »
Amazing, you just demonstrated my whole point. You only care about the money in your pocket. But the thing is, HIGH TAXES DO NOT KILL YOUR PERSONAL ECONOMY once the nation has adjusted to it. The country I live has one of the worlds highest taxes and it WORKS. People still get money for working and although with tragic exceptions, everyone has money to feed themselves and live in a clean and safe enviroment. We also have a huge immigration "problem" with people coming here and living off our welfare system. But you know what? I can still with my below average job pay for rent, food, hobbies and travels (with a very good marginal) and at the same time pay for taxes that makes sure that every citizen can be kept off hunger and poverty even though they are part of any those groups you just mentioned. Oh and if you were wondering, rich people are still rich in this country.
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Re: Hillary getting desperate
« Reply #49 on: February 25, 2008, 02:07:07 PM »
Exception to the rule:  Children.  They should not be penalized for being brought into the world by someone that cannot support them.


Remember a few months back when bush vetoed the S-CHIP bill which would have given healthcare to every child in America?