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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Danimal77 on April 07, 2008, 07:56:06 PM
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Personally, I think he's trying to take back some of this shit he did back then, by denying it. Pure and simple, Arnold got to where he is, BECAUSE he was THAT way back then. I call B.S. What do you guys think?
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I think Arnold is the man. Anyone disagree?
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This is the first time I have heard Arnold talk since 1980. His vocabulary and language is 100% improved over those days and his intelligence shines through. His face looks different to what I remember. He is much more handsome now.
He has always been able to focus and do whatever was needed to succeed. Interesting how he used controversy to get notoriety and exposure. The bottom line is he used his brain to beat Sergio and others and that is documented by Pumping Iron and these interviews.
A pity what he said about testing bodybuilders for drugs is a lie.
Did he go to his father's funeral or not?
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This is the first time I have heard Arnold talk since 1980. His vocabulary and language is 100% improved over those days and his intelligence shines through. His face looks different to what I remember. He is much more handsome now.
He has always been able to focus and do whatever was needed to succeed. Interesting how he used controversy to get notoriety and exposure. The bottom line is he used his brain to beat Sergio and others and that is documented by Pumping Iron and these interviews.
A pity what he said about testing bodybuilders for drugs is a lie.
Did he go to his father's funeral or not?
Sorry Vince, but have you been living under a rock? The guy was a massive movie star, and now governor of California. Do you own a tv?
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Agree Arnold is the king of this sport.
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Arnold is the king
Fixed.
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Hillary, with darker hair dye.
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Arnold Fuks everyone and he does it with a Huge Smile.Dude was always going places.Long Live the King.
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Arnold was in my living room in 1974. Sure I heard him in the movies but he was playing roles. The Youtube clips were the first I have seen where he is relaxed and talking. I smiled because I was impressed with how well he speaks now. This is the guy who had a clue about success.
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Personally, I think he's trying to take back some of this shit he did back then, by denying it. Pure and simple, Arnold got to where he is, BECAUSE he was THAT way back then. I call B.S. What do you guys think?
He constantly revises reality for whatever the day's agenda calls for, that's been the MO from day one. But because success rules in America and most have short attention spans it's easily forgiven and forgotten. ;) Love the way he now positions himself ("we")as part of the production when in fact Butler and Gaines were really the guys driving the thing & convincing him to compete another year. They were most reponsible for the ideas involved with the movie, promotions, financing, etc.
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OK, he is speaking the truth;
1- Arnold's Dad did not die while he was training for the O
2- The Mike Katz missing t shirt was true, he lost it, BUT the Ken Waller "stealing" it scenes were added in AFTER the competition.
Arnold is full of shit-and Pumping Iron's Gains and Butler also are full of shit because they allowed that shit to go into the documentary.
But it is one hell of a show........
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Is Arnold saying that Jimmy Thompson's version is correct? :o
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Arnold said the samething in the dvd when there's a scene in the movie where the director confronts Arnold on his antics. Arnold told him that he's just trying to make the documentary more interesting to the general public. It maybe in the outtakes I think.
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I like Arnold.
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Personally, I think he's trying to take back some of this shit he did back then, by denying it. Pure and simple, Arnold got to where he is, BECAUSE he was THAT way back then. I call B.S. What do you guys think?
Agree
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This is the first time I have heard Arnold talk since 1980.
OK. You've got to be living under a rock to have NEVER heard his voice in 28 years via movies, news, etc. ::)
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OK. You've got to be living under a rock to have NEVER heard his voice in 28 years via movies, news, etc. ::)
"Arnold was in my living room in 1974. Sure I heard him in the movies but he was playing roles. The Youtube clips were the first I have seen where he is relaxed and talking."
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Personally, I think he's trying to take back some of this shit he did back then, by denying it.
I think if there's anything he'd deny doing was smoking that joint! ;D
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Arnold was in my living room in 1974.
Was he also on your toilet?! :o
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OK, he is speaking the truth;
1- Arnold's Dad did not die while he was training for the O
2- The Mike Katz missing t shirt was true, he lost it, BUT the Ken Waller "stealing" it scenes were added in AFTER the competition.
Arnold is full of shit-and Pumping Iron's Gains and Butler also are full of shit because they allowed that shit to go into the documentary.
But it is one hell of a show........
This stuff was addressed years ago, in the 25th Anniversary edition of Pumping Iron DVD, in the “Special Features” portion, “Iron Insights”. The things you mentioned were added to jazz up the film, because, the investors felt that just the training and competition footage was boring, as most non-bodybuilders do. As the Oak put it, ”That’s why we didn’t call it a documentary; we always call it a ‘docu-drama’, because certain things were added to the film, in order to make it more interesting.”
1 - Arnold said that he got that story from a bodybuilder in France, who claimed that he didn’t attend his father’s funeral as it interfered with his contest preparation. But, there’s a reason why he used that story. According to the Oak, it was part of the transition to make him the “heel” of the movie, as that role was originally to go to Lou Ferrigno. However, as the production continued, the directors felt that Ferrigno couldn’t pull it off, due to his hearing problem and the overbearing role his father played in the film. Big Lou simply didn’t have the presence to be the villain of the movie. Therefore, when Arnold assumed the role, the funeral thing was used to sell how cold and heartless he could be.
2 – Indeed, “T-shirt”-Gate was a spur-of-the-moment thing for Waller, as he was just goofing around. But, the goal was to make each contest appear to be a two-man race (Waller and Katz for the Universe; Schwarzenegger and Ferrigno for the Olympia). The football scene, filmed after the Universe, was his way of dismissing Katz but leaving nothing to chance. Waller claimed that, for several years after Pumping Iron was released, he got booed at contests because of that whole scenario. To this day, he hasn’t been able to distance himself from that scene.
This is the first time I have heard Arnold talk since 1980. His vocabulary and language is 100% improved over those days and his intelligence shines through. His face looks different to what I remember. He is much more handsome now.
He has always been able to focus and do whatever was needed to succeed. Interesting how he used controversy to get notoriety and exposure. The bottom line is he used his brain to beat Sergio and others and that is documented by Pumping Iron and these interviews.
A pity what he said about testing bodybuilders for drugs is a lie.
Did he go to his father's funeral or not?
3 – It’s safe to say that Arnold exaggerated the issue of drug-testing in the IFBB. Yes, he did talk openly about his past steroid use, as he always does (after all, steroids weren’t illegal when he was competing). The IFBB does have testing. But, from what I’ve seen, it happens primarily among the amateurs; and most of that is internationally (i.e. outside the USA). But, Arnold used the term, "continuously" to describe the testing protocols. I think "sparingly" would be a better term.
Another thing he mentioned that you didn’t list was his comment about getting a pump. Contrary to what certain supplement companies (i.e. VPX) advertise, Arnold DOES NOT believe that a pump is as gratifying as (or more gratifying than) an orgasm. The Oak says he made that up, as something outrageous to garner more attention to himself and the film. To him, the feelings are mutually exclusive.
Also, there was no need for Schwarzenegger to “pscyh out” Ferrigno. The Oak felt that his larger opponent wasn’t ready to compete as his level. But, for the sake of the movie’s storyline, he had to act as if Big Louie was a legitimate threat (hence, the downplaying of the fact that Arnold had beaten Lou the previous year). Therefore, simply having a better physique wasn’t enough. Schwarzenegger had to convince Ferrigno that the future Incredible Hulk didn’t have what it took to beat him, that he would be “ready to lose” when the Olympia took place.
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I think if there's anything he'd deny doing was smoking that joint! ;D
Nope. Schwarzenegger said that he did indeed smoke the joint, during the post-Olympia/Lou Ferrigno-birthday party. It was weed, indeed; and HE DID INHALE!!!!
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Nope. Schwarzenegger said that he did indeed smoke the joint, during the post-Olympia/Lou Ferrigno-birthday party. It was weed, indeed; and HE DID INHALE!!!!
I know you moron. ::)
I said if there WAS anything he was to deny, it would be smokin' that joint.
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I know you moron. ::)
I said if there WAS anything he was to deny, it would be smokin' that joint.
What for? He didn't deny his steroid use. Why would he deny his weed-smoking, especially if such isn't an offense in South Africa, genius?
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This is the first time I have heard Arnold talk since 1980. His vocabulary and language is 100% improved over those days and his intelligence shines through. His face looks different to what I remember. He is much more handsome now.
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the first time since 1980 ???
also how can a man look better at 60 than he did in his late 20's?
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What for? He didn't deny his steroid use. Why would he deny his weed-smoking, especially if such isn't an offense in South Africa, genius?
OK. Let me see if I can break this down for your peanut brain...It was suggested to Arnold that for the re-releasing of Pumping Iron, he omit the weed scene, but he chose otherwise for the purity of the film and did not want to deny that he did in fact inhale, blah blah blah...
IF, now this is a big IF, are you understand this? IF Arnold was to deny any portion of the film, it would've been the weed scene simply because no other scene stood out as controversial as that one.
Get it? Got it? Goooooood...
Not too bright in putting two and two together, are ya?
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the first time since 1980 ???
also how can a man look better at 60 than he did in his late 20's?
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Vince only gets an hour of internet use a day in the dementia ward.
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I remember reading a book on arnold when i was younger, where he stated that he used to go camping with a fellow bodybuilder cant recall his name, but they would bring a barbell, 4 - 45's plates and 2 or 3 girls and do squats, drink, toke, and fuck, all day and night for the whole weekend.
When i read that as a kid, i got PUMPED i wanted to go camping when i grew up. ;D
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OK. Let me see if I can break this down for your peanut brain...It was suggested to Arnold that for the re-releasing of Pumping Iron, he omit the weed scene, but he chose otherwise for the purity of the film and did not want to deny that he did in fact inhale, blah blah blah...
IF, now this is a big IF, are you understand this? IF Arnold was to deny any portion of the film, it would've been the weed scene simply because no other scene stood out as controversial as that one.
Get it? Got it? Goooooood...
Not too bright in putting two and two together, are ya?
How the hell is that scene controversial?
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How the hell is that scene controversial?
Of course not in 1977. But prior to its re-release in 2002, Arnold was advised that scene should be omitted fearing it may cause some controversy possibly hindering his run for governor.
I'm not saying it's controversial, but others felt it was.
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This stuff was addressed years ago, in the 25th Anniversary edition of Pumping Iron DVD, in the “Special Features” portion, “Iron Insights”.
3 – It's safe to say that Arnold exaggerated the issue of drug-testing in the IFBB. Yes, he did talk openly about his past steroid use, as he always does (after all, steroids weren't illegal when he was competing). The IFBB does have testing. But, from what I've seen, it happens primarily among the amateurs; and most of that is internationally (i.e. outside the USA). But, Arnold used the term, "continuously" to describe the testing protocols. I think "sparingly" would be a better term.
Another thing he mentioned that you didn't list was his comment about getting a pump. Contrary to what certain supplement companies (i.e. VPX) advertise, Arnold DOES NOT believe that a pump is as gratifying as (or more gratifying than) an orgasm. The Oak says he made that up, as something outrageous to garner more attention to himself and the film. To him, the feelings are mutually exclusive.
#1- Arnold did not revel the bullshit about his Dad not really dying while he trained for the Olympia-he was OUTED by Wendy Leigh in her unauthorized biography of him. So the notion that he came out with it on his own is bullshit.
#2- Steroids were illegal in the 60's, they always have been, UNLESS you had it prescribed by a doctor. Arnold, nor any other BBers of that time, had their steroids prescribed by doctors. So they were illegal for him to use.
#3- The IFBB is a professional BBing organization, they have nothing to do with amateur competitions.
#4-Arnold was LYING when he said a pump was like an orgasm. I am shocked. SHOCKED I TELL YOU!
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OK. Let me see if I can break this down for your peanut brain...It was suggested to Arnold that for the re-releasing of Pumping Iron, he omit the weed scene, but he chose otherwise for the purity of the film and did not want to deny that he did in fact inhale, blah blah blah...
IF, now this is a big IF, are you understand this? IF Arnold was to deny any portion of the film, it would've been the weed scene simply because no other scene stood out as controversial as that one.
Get it? Got it? Goooooood...
Not too bright in putting two and two together, are ya?
"Are you understand this?"
What were you staing about not being to bright, again?
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#1- Arnold did not revel the bullshit about his Dad not really dying while he trained for the Olympia-he was OUTED by Wendy Leigh in her unauthorized biography of him. So the notion that he came out with it on his own is bullshit.
#2- Steroids were illegal in the 60's, they always have been, UNLESS you had it prescribed by a doctor. Arnold, nor any other BBers of that time, had their steroids prescribed by doctors. So they were illegal for him to use.
#3- The IFBB is a professional BBing organization, they have nothing to do with amateur competitions.
The IFBB has amateur organizations, among them are the IFBB North American and, of course the World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships (aka the Mr. Universe).
In fact, until a few years ago, the winner of the Universe qualified for the Olympia. During the years, where there was no overall winner, all the weight-class winners qualified for the next year's Olympia (i.e. Ronnie Coleman, who won the heavweight class in 1991, earning him a slot in the 1992 Olympia).
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The IFBB has amateur orgianizations, among them are the IFBB North American and, of course the World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships (aka the Mr. Universe).
In fact, until a few years ago, the winner of the Universe qualified for the Olympia. During the years, where there was no overall winner, all the weight-class winners qualified for the next year's Olympia (i.e. Ronnie Coleman, who won the heavweight class in 1991, earning him a slot in the 1992 Olympia).
The IFBB does not do amateur competitions. In the USA it is the NPC.
The World Championships/Universe is a competition that is ONLY OPEN to qualified competitors who are trying to turn pro.
The winner of the World Championships/Universe has not been an automatic qualifier for the O for years.
And for the record ALL Universe winners, in every class were eleigible to compete in the O when they allowed that-it was not limited to an overall winner.
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The IFBB does not do amateur competitions. In the USA it is the NPC.
The NPC is the official amateur feeder for the IFBB. And, the IFBB has its own show, the IFBB North American.
The World Championships/Universe is a competition that is ONLY OPEN to qualified competitors who are trying to turn pro.
Those competitors would be amateurs. And, the IFBB runs the Universe.
The winner of the World Championships/Universe has not been an automatic qualifier for the O for years.
And for the record ALL Universe winners, in every class were eleigible to compete in the O when they allowed that-it was not limited to an overall winner.
I beg to differ. Back when the Olympia was the only pro show, the Mr. Universe winners qualified for the Olympia. The weight class winners did all qualify, especially after 1991, when they stopped crowning an overall winner. However, when they reinstated the overall title (I believe that was 1994 or 1995), only that winner from the Universe got a spot at the Olympia.
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What were you staing about not being to bright, again?
You tell me! :D
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#4-Arnold was LYING when he said a pump was like an orgasm. I am shocked. SHOCKED I TELL YOU!
No...he was telling the truth. If you are getting pumped up in the gym and not feeling like you are coming all day, then you are doing it wrong. ;D
Arnold was and is a showman. He knew that a quote like that would draw people to bodybuilding like flies to sh*t. If we could only get Coleman or Cutler to make these type of memorable quotes, you could possibly get people interested in professional bodybuilding again. Of course, Coleman and Cutler don't have Arnold's charisma, so doubt that they could pull it off.
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No...he was telling the truth. If you are getting pumped up in the gym and not feeling like you are coming all day, then you are doing it wrong. ;D
Arnold was and is a showman. He knew that a quote like that would draw people to bodybuilding like flies to sh*t. If we could only get Coleman or Cutler to make these type of memorable quotes, you could possibly get people interested in professional bodybuilding again. Of course, Coleman and Cutler don't have Arnold's charisma, so doubt that they could pull it off.
Jay not only has the body of a Fridge, he also has the personality to match.
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Earl, you have no idea about what Arnold used to look like. His face has changed. He was hardly what I would call handsome in the old days. He had a permanent make over for his movie and political careers.
Arnold liked to own people. He was one of the first bodybuilders to do that. That is what he is doing to Lou Ferrigno in the movie. He is also a first rate shit stirrer but most who are not the targer will laugh. Like the audience did when he said Lou was probably outside selling his photos at Arnold's show this year.
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Earl, you have no idea about what Arnold used to look like. His face has changed. He was hardly what I would call handsome in the old days. He had a permanent make over for his movie and political careers.
Of course not, im sure this ugly man got NO pussy what so ever, especially in a time when being a bodybuilder was considered abnormal and a circus freak ::) Im sure you gave arni your hand-me-down twat in your days ::)
(http://www.girondatalks.com/portals/86/arnold-schwarzenegger-vince-gironda.jpg)
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Earl, you have no idea about what Arnold used to look like. His face has changed. He was hardly what I would call handsome in the old days. He had a permanent make over for his movie and political careers.
Arnold liked to own people. He was one of the first bodybuilders to do that. That is what he is doing to Lou Ferrigno in the movie. He is also a first rate shit stirrer but most who are not the targer will laugh. Like the audience did when he said Lou was probably outside selling his photos at Arnold's show this year.
I do know what he looked like and yes his face has changed
he now looks old and wrinkled, back then he was handsome ;D
yes arnold liked to own people, reminds me of myself 8)
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