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Title: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: columbusdude82 on April 11, 2008, 12:43:09 AM
I know he's young, but come on...

(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2008/fibo_2008/tag_1/P4106581.JPG)

(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2008/fibo_2008/tag_1/P4106576.JPG)

(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2008/fibo_2008/tag_1/P4106548.JPG)

(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2008/fibo_2008/tag_1/P4106549.JPG)

(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2008/fibo_2008/tag_1/P4106550.JPG)

(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2008/fibo_2008/tag_1/P4106573.JPG)

(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2008/fibo_2008/tag_1/P4106561.JPG)

(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2008/fibo_2008/tag_1/P4106563.JPG)
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: nycbull on April 11, 2008, 12:44:56 AM
very bendy
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Post by: genrommel74 on April 11, 2008, 12:47:39 AM
he's not really a pro is he?
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: marcus on April 11, 2008, 12:48:19 AM
Derek Anthony will be posing with him at the next JimmyZ event.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: columbusdude82 on April 11, 2008, 12:49:52 AM
he's not really a pro is he?

That's what they said on here... youngest IFBB pro or something like that..
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: GoneAway on April 11, 2008, 12:54:21 AM
(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2008/fibo_2008/tag_1/P4106561.JPG)

oh no he di'int!
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: genrommel74 on April 11, 2008, 12:58:45 AM
if he really is a pro, then there is hope for the rest of us
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Trev on April 11, 2008, 01:22:41 AM
If he can land the right contract and not be so ripped, he looks like the next Mr O to me!  ::)
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: genrommel74 on April 11, 2008, 01:23:40 AM
If he can land the right contract and not be so ripped, he looks like the next Mr O to me!  ::)

LOL
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: UpTheDosage on April 11, 2008, 01:39:57 AM
I'm with ya columbusdude... that guy fuckin sucks. most of the guys that come from other countries that turn pro via non USA's, Nationals or NA's suck ass.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Charlys69 on April 11, 2008, 02:51:32 AM
It´s true that he get a Procard this year for winning the Juniors World-Championships. At the Fibo (act. pics) he is way off from his best condition. I believe that he (Daniel Hill) will not compete as a Pro in the next 2 Years. At the IFBB World-Champ. he weighed about 220 lbs in Top Condition. He is about 6 "0" tall.
Most BB here in Germany think that it was much to early for him to get the Procard, but time will tell "if he can be a good Pro or not..."
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Mars on April 11, 2008, 02:59:32 AM
If he can land the right contract and not be so ripped, he looks like the next Mr O to me!  ::)

haha exactly, that whole show is a farce.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: affeman on April 11, 2008, 03:03:47 AM
There are probably even better naturals out there.... :-\
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Tazziedevil on April 11, 2008, 03:07:58 AM
Shit.... theres hope for me at 35 yrs old then, I looked better than him when I was 25 working on bloody night club doors.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: musclecenter on April 11, 2008, 03:08:24 AM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: webcake on April 11, 2008, 03:09:50 AM
Shit arms on him. Shouldn't be a pro.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: spinnis on April 11, 2008, 03:18:25 AM
http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=27512
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: LatsMcGee on April 11, 2008, 03:24:30 AM
I always feel sorry for the dumbasses who pay to watch these guys guest pose when the show up in that kind of shape.  I had free tickets about 5 years ago for the Mr. Michigan and Kamali showed up looking like that.  It's probably the reason I have no respect for the guy.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Monster81 on April 11, 2008, 03:27:42 AM
if this guy is a pro then i should be pro too  >:(
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on April 11, 2008, 03:30:05 AM
This man is the prototype of everything we've been asking for on this board. He's got classic lines.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Charlys69 on April 11, 2008, 03:46:06 AM
A few shots of him in better Condition....
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: affeman on April 11, 2008, 03:49:35 AM
A few shots of him in better Condition....

Rührend wie du hier für die deutschen Athleten kämpfst.... :)
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on April 11, 2008, 04:31:42 AM
Too Light to fight Too Thin to Win
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: kiwiol on April 11, 2008, 04:42:56 AM
A poor man's Achim Albretch
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Sharma on April 11, 2008, 04:44:29 AM
I cannot see him ever having arms for the pro level
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Meso_z on April 11, 2008, 04:47:55 AM
A few shots of him in better Condition....

who cares, he looks like shit anyway.

Wasn't he the guy who took advices from Jay? I'm afraid not even Jay can save him.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: WadsWorth on April 11, 2008, 04:58:13 AM
WOW

nice hairy teeth....


WW
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Charlys69 on April 11, 2008, 05:18:23 AM
Rührend wie du hier für die deutschen Athleten kämpfst.... :)

Ich hätte trotzdem gegen die Procard gestimmt (wenn ich eine Stimme gehabt hätte). Denn seit ewiger Zeit war nie die Rede davon das man die Procard über Junioren-Wettkämpfe bekommen kann. Es war immer einhellige Meinung das mit dem "internationalen Finalplatz" eine WH und EM der Männer gemeint war...wobei ich da noch weitergehen würde, und sagen würde nur "WM Top 3" (und das nur wenn sichtbares Potential vorhanden ist).
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 11, 2008, 05:20:31 AM
Derek Anthony will be posing with him at the next JimmyZ event.
haha 
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Meso_z on April 11, 2008, 05:37:07 AM
There are hundends of guys 100000 times better than this pile of shit, who are strugling at the amateur ranks for years! and this guy is a pro?  :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: columbusdude82 on April 11, 2008, 06:53:38 AM
I'm with ya columbusdude... that guy fuckin sucks. most of the guys that come from other countries that turn pro via non USA's, Nationals or NA's suck ass.

Thanks bro, it's always good to have your backing :)

Please understand folks, I'm not hating on the guy, and I certainly don't mean for this thread to turn into bashing, but there are still some things you expect (a lot more size, at least) from a newly minted IFBB pro.

Think of all the brilliant top amateurs in the US who never get their pro card and look so much better than lots of pros who get their pro cards overseas. For one example, look at Greg Atoyan who's been "paying his dues" at NPC contests for as long as I've been paying any attention to bbing...
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: m8 on April 11, 2008, 06:54:20 AM
(http://i13.servimg.com/u/f13/11/58/85/65/920a3310.jpg)
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: flex933 on April 11, 2008, 07:08:59 AM
looks like the next mauro sarni
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: columbusdude82 on April 11, 2008, 07:24:10 AM
looks like the next mauro sarni

Who? ???
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: TrueGrit on April 11, 2008, 07:24:48 AM
(http://i13.servimg.com/u/f13/11/58/85/65/920a3310.jpg)

lol
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: m8 on April 11, 2008, 07:27:10 AM
lol

But at least he's not bald and black.
He looks like Brad Pitt facially.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: musclecenter on April 11, 2008, 07:33:24 AM
As a pro,you must keep in shape all year around to get respect.  This is especially true when one is guest posing.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: columbusdude82 on April 11, 2008, 07:37:29 AM
As a pro,you must keep in shape all year around to get respect.  This is especially true when one is guest posing.

Is that what Confucius said? ::)

BTW the dude looks nothing like brad pitt in the face, and very much like a chipmunk!
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: musclecenter on April 11, 2008, 08:43:57 AM
Is that what Confucius Confusion said? ::)
Some of his words are bullshit  ;D ;D
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: kiwiol on April 11, 2008, 08:48:12 AM
Some of his words are bullshit  ;D ;D

But most of them were very true:

Confucius say:

Man going through airport door sideways is going to Bangkok

Man who drop watch in toilet bound to have a shitty time

Man who goes to sleep with itchy bum wake up with smelly fingers

Man who puts hand in pocket feel cocky all day

Woman who jump on inner-spring this spring come back with offspring next spring


and so on....
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: musclecenter on April 11, 2008, 08:52:42 AM
But most of them were very true:

Confucius say:

Man going through airport door sideways is going to Bangkok

Man who drop watch in toilet bound to have a shitty time

Man who goes to sleep with itchy bum wake up with smelly fingers

Man who puts hand in pocket feel cocky all day

Woman who jump on inner spring this spring come back with offspring next spring


and so on....

your " Confucius " saying make me in confusion  ;D


Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: kiwiol on April 11, 2008, 08:54:46 AM
your " Confucius " saying make me in confusion  ;D

Confucius say, "Man who goes to sleep dreaming of women wake up with solution in hand"
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: musclecenter on April 11, 2008, 08:56:08 AM
Confucius kiwiol say, "Man who goes to sleep dreaming of women wake up with solution in hand" ;D
fix
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: m8 on April 11, 2008, 09:17:44 AM
Is that what Confucius said? ::)

BTW the dude looks nothing like brad pitt in the face, and very much like a chipmunk!

His jaw is very Brad Pittish.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: candidizzle on April 11, 2008, 09:26:13 AM
there is hope! ;D
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: nder98 on April 11, 2008, 10:52:01 AM
A few shots of him in better Condition....

He still shouldnt be a pro.....
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: timfogarty on April 11, 2008, 10:56:26 AM
He looks like Brad Pitt facially.

maybe if Brad Pitt was suffering from acromegaly
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: TrueGrit on April 11, 2008, 11:00:22 AM
I thought it was Brad Pitt..that's why I lolled. I wondered why someone was posting his pic in this off topic thread. So it isn't Brad?
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on April 11, 2008, 11:02:20 AM
(http://i13.servimg.com/u/f13/11/58/85/65/920a3310.jpg)

(http://www.peteducation.com/images/articles/10130rabbit_teeth.jpg)

(http://www.astronomy-images.com/day-images/California/Marin-Sonoma/rabbit-3D.KI8Q4605.jpg)
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: columbusdude82 on April 11, 2008, 11:10:35 AM
maybe if Brad Pitt was suffering from acromegaly

Damn, you're harsh bro!
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: TrueGrit on April 11, 2008, 11:16:24 AM
The goatee doesn't help

Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: affeman on April 11, 2008, 11:41:34 AM
(http://www.bigdanhill.com/content/images/essen.JPG)
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on April 11, 2008, 11:43:29 AM
The goatee doesn't help



I'm guessing a missing chromosome explains why he looks like that ???
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: m8 on April 11, 2008, 11:49:35 AM
The goatee doesn't help



Brad Pitt.
(http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/D20061107/9_211982369_brad_pitt_angelina_jolie_768923_H111525_L.jpg)
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: affeman on April 11, 2008, 11:52:42 AM
Brad Pitt.
(http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/D20061107/9_211982369_brad_pitt_angelina_jolie_768923_H111525_L.jpg)

That's not Brad Pitt.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: TrueGrit on April 11, 2008, 12:15:47 PM
I'm guessing a missing chromosome explains why he looks like that ???

Just the one?  ;D

Brad Pitt.


Behave!  8)
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Stavios on April 11, 2008, 12:19:18 PM
great physique for only 22 years old
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: rk272727 on April 11, 2008, 12:35:56 PM
Derek Anthony will be posing with him at the next JimmyZ event.
  YOU ALWAYS THINK ABOUT DEREK  DAM WHAT AA FAG YOU ARE
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Meso_z on April 11, 2008, 01:03:16 PM
(http://www.bigdanhill.com/content/images/essen.JPG)

Go on, eat them, you look like shit anyway.  :D
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: GetItOnNY on April 11, 2008, 01:39:19 PM
This guy isnt into candy, he is more of a tree, hugger, I mean chewer.
This guy, can really do a number on trees, and can build one hell of a dam to
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: GetItOnNY on April 11, 2008, 01:42:39 PM
Smile and say Cheese, I mean wood, lmao
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: musclecenter on April 11, 2008, 08:05:54 PM
 :)
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: gordiano on April 11, 2008, 09:21:31 PM
There are hundends of guys 100000 times better than this pile of shit, who are strugling at the amateur ranks for years! and this guy is a pro?  :P :P :P :P

It's obvious you hate bodybuilding......
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: marcus on April 11, 2008, 09:35:37 PM
A few shots of him in better Condition....

Didn't realize that was him. If he can bring up his upper body slowly without getting a gut he'd have a great physique even if it's not enough to do damage as a pro.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Meso_z on April 11, 2008, 11:52:51 PM
It's obvious you hate bodybuilding......

 ???
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: phyxsius on April 11, 2008, 11:57:35 PM
Another Chris Cook symptom.. He should return the money back
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: aliamini on April 12, 2008, 12:19:22 AM
that's y it's always good to do a light cycle before a guestposing
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: columbusdude82 on April 12, 2008, 03:24:15 AM
(http://www.posedown.de/specials/2008/2008-04_fibo-2008/pics-1-donnerstag/pic_0274.jpg)
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: GetItOnNY on April 12, 2008, 04:52:05 PM
Look at the size of those teeth, holy shit, he must have to you a toilet brush and a garden house to brush them.To floss he uses, rope. I bet he started working out to make his body more proportioned to his teeth.Ben White said he started working out because his grandmother told him he had a big head, and did want his head to look so big on his body.
Well this guy neeeds to be alteast 350lbs to make his body proporion ed to those big ass chompers.
God help the a person if he ever decided to bite some body.One chomp and bye bye arm limb, or arm
I bet he opens Avocados, and eats the seed like a gum ball, and throw away the Avocado.
I bet he has to uses a car buffer to polish and buff those big friggin teeth.Poor bastard
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: columbusdude82 on April 12, 2008, 05:49:57 PM
Look at the size of those teeth, holy shit, he must have to you a toilet brush and a garden house to brush them.To floss he uses, rope. I bet he started working out to make his body more proportioned to his teeth.Ben White said he started working out because his grandmother told him he had a big head, and did want his head to look so big on his body.
Well this guy neeeds to be alteast 350lbs to make his body proporion ed to those big ass chompers.
God help the a person if he ever decided to bite some body.One chomp and bye bye arm limb, or arm
I bet he opens Avocados, and eats the seed like a gum ball, and throw away the Avocado.
I bet he has to uses a car buffer to polish and buff those big friggin teeth.Poor bastard

We can't all be as handsome and distinguished as you ::)
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: GoneAway on April 12, 2008, 09:17:39 PM
ive noticed alot of bbers or big guys who are on steroids seem to have exaggerated jaw and chin lines. has this 'side effect' been proven? what particular drug is it a result of?
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: timfogarty on April 12, 2008, 10:29:19 PM
ive noticed alot of bbers or big guys who are on steroids seem to have exaggerated jaw and chin lines. has this 'side effect' been proven? what particular drug is it a result of?

in addition to muscle, growth hormone can cause cartilage to grow.  this includes the cartilage in the jaw, nose, ears and brow.  some people seem to be more susceptible to it than others.   some people get the protruding stomach, others their face becomes more Neanderthal like.

when the body creates too much growth hormone naturally, such as with certain genetic conditions, it is called acromegaly.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 12, 2008, 10:45:49 PM
in addition to muscle, growth hormone can cause cartilage to grow.  this includes the cartilage in the jaw, nose, ears and brow.  some people seem to be more susceptible to it than others.   some people get the protruding stomach, others their face becomes more Neanderthal like.

when the body creates too much growth hormone naturally, such as with certain genetic conditions, it is called acromegaly.
I don't think this guy has used enough growth to cause acromegaly (yet). He has the Tom Platz cheeks that some get from steroids.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: GoneAway on April 12, 2008, 10:46:31 PM
in addition to muscle, growth hormone can cause cartilage to grow.  this includes the cartilage in the jaw, nose, ears and brow.  some people seem to be more susceptible to it than others.   some people get the protruding stomach, others their face becomes more Neanderthal like.

when the body creates too much growth hormone naturally, such as with certain genetic conditions, it is called acromegaly.

thanks, Tim. it seems that Arnold may have had a less severe case of Acromegaly, as he has growth in the jaw, chin, and forhead, aswell as a large gap between his top two front teeth.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 12, 2008, 10:49:06 PM
thanks, Tim. it seems that Arnold may have had a less severe case of Acromegaly, as he has growth in the jaw, chin, and forhead, aswell as a large gap between his top two front teeth.
Are you talking about Arnold in the 70s or later? Consider when GH came on the market.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: GoneAway on April 12, 2008, 11:03:35 PM
Are you talking about Arnold in the 70s or later? Consider when GH came on the market.

he had all of those facial features since the late 60's, so it's possible he was using gh from cadavars
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 12, 2008, 11:34:23 PM
he had all of those facial features since the late 60's, so it's possible he was using gh from cadavars
I don't know, perhaps, but I kind of doubt it. I think the first commercial cadaver growth came in the late 70s and prior to that it must have been very hard to get.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: TechnoViking on April 12, 2008, 11:49:26 PM
And yet he looks 8 times better then Rhino...
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: timfogarty on April 13, 2008, 12:05:23 AM
he had all of those facial features since the late 60's, so it's possible he was using gh from cadavars

GH from cadavers wasn't availalbe in the 60s.   and in the 70s it was quite expensive.  to use enough to cause acromegaly would have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.    The neanderthal look in bodybuilders didn't show up until the introduction of cheap rHGH in the late 80s and early 90s.

any changes in his facial features in the 90s certainly could have been from GH.  but the pics of him as a teen...that's just his genetics
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: GoneAway on April 13, 2008, 12:15:06 AM
GH from cadavers wasn't availalbe in the 60s.   and in the 70s it was quite expensive.  to use enough to cause acromegaly would have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.    The neanderthal look in bodybuilders didn't show up until the introduction of cheap rHGH in the late 80s and early 90s.

any changes in his facial features in the 90s certainly could have been from GH.  but the pics of him as a teen...that's just his genetics

ok, i got that from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone_treatment:

"Cadaver growth hormone is the term for GH extracted from human pituitary glands between 1960 and 1985 for therapy of deficient children. In the U.S., cadaver GH, also referred to as NPA growth hormone, was provided by the (National Pituitary Agency), and by other national programs and commercial firms as well. In 1985 it was associated with the development of Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, and was withdrawn from use."
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: kiwiol on April 13, 2008, 12:20:17 AM
And yet he looks 8 times better then Rhino...

That's like saying someone is smarter than Candidizzle or Johnny Falcon - not much to go by :-\
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: m8 on April 13, 2008, 12:48:55 AM
gh from cadavars

HAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: timfogarty on April 13, 2008, 12:55:29 AM
ok, i got that from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone_treatment:

ok.  gh wasn't available to bodybuilders in the 1960s.   they might have been producing enough for a few dozen children.   and a therapeutic dose for a child is a small small fraction of what today's bodybuilder would use.

bodybuilders did not start using GH in amounts that cause significant muscle growth or that can cause acromegaly until the late 1980s. 
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: TechnoViking on April 13, 2008, 12:59:33 AM
GH from cadavers wasn't availalbe in the 60s.   and in the 70s it was quite expensive.  to use enough to cause acromegaly would have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.    The neanderthal look in bodybuilders didn't show up until the introduction of cheap rHGH in the late 80s and early 90s.

any changes in his facial features in the 90s certainly could have been from GH.  but the pics of him as a teen...that's just his genetics

except for the fact that the rhgh was being made in a lab many years before and took many years to get FDA acceptaince.....And Joe Weider sent some of his very own lab rats to be G/pigs...i've heard rumors of thousands of people being tested on...Or course many many midgets but a few bodybuilders also...
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: The.Giant on April 13, 2008, 01:01:18 AM
(http://www.bigdanhill.com/content/images/essen.JPG)
Go on, eat them, you look like shit anyway.  :D

Hhahahaha, funniest comment I've read in a while.

What the fuck is up with that guys face, he looks like a coked out squirrel.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: kiwiol on April 13, 2008, 01:02:59 AM
ok.  gh wasn't available to bodybuilders in the 1960s.   they might have been producing enough for a few dozen children.   and a therapeutic dose for a child is a small small fraction of what today's bodybuilder would use.

bodybuilders did not start using GH in amounts that cause significant muscle growth or that can cause acromegaly until the late 1980s. 

I don't think GH was produced commercially until early to mid 80s. No way was it being used by bodybuilders in the 60s or even 70s. That was a time when you didn't even need to be that massive anyway - most of the guys who were around 5'8" competed around 215 - 230.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: timfogarty on April 13, 2008, 01:26:15 AM
except for the fact that the rhgh was being made in a lab many years before and took many years to get FDA acceptaince.....And Joe Weider sent some of his very own lab rats to be G/pigs...

even if true, they would have been given what today would be considered trivial doses. 
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: GoneAway on April 13, 2008, 01:31:56 AM
ok.  gh wasn't available to bodybuilders in the 1960s.   they might have been producing enough for a few dozen children.   and a therapeutic dose for a child is a small small fraction of what today's bodybuilder would use.

bodybuilders did not start using GH in amounts that cause significant muscle growth or that can cause acromegaly until the late 1980s. 

alright, thanks for clearing that up. you're likely right, that it was natural for Arnold to have a large forehead, jawline, chin and large gap between his teeth (common signs of acromegaly), but is it possible that another drug caused it, like maybe test?

it's just odd that maybe as much as 40-50% of big guys on steroids have this facial look, and surely not all of them are on gh.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: TechnoViking on April 13, 2008, 02:09:45 AM
even if true, they would have been given what today would be considered trivial doses. 

yes agreed...But i have heard stories of doses going up to 12ius a day back then...Who knows what is B.S. these days...I also knew guys who took 500mgs of syntex anadrol back in the 80's and said that it wasn't that much...For they went by went the insert said was the max...
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: timfogarty on April 13, 2008, 02:10:03 AM
but is it possible that another drug caused it, like maybe test?

there is no scientific evidence for this.   AS does not cause cartilage to grow.  GH does.

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it's just odd that maybe as much as 40-50% of big guys on steroids have this facial look, and surely not all of them are on gh.

you'd have to compare pics of them in their teens with what they look like now.   you're noticing this in 'big guys', perhaps they're big because they have naturally higher than average levels of GH.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: GoneAway on April 13, 2008, 02:43:53 AM
there is no scientific evidence for this.   AS does not cause cartilage to grow.  GH does.

you'd have to compare pics of them in their teens with what they look like now.   you're noticing this in 'big guys', perhaps they're big because they have naturally higher than average levels of GH.

yes, that's what crossed my mind. could be why Arnold's features are so pronounced.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: columbusdude82 on April 13, 2008, 04:53:56 AM
Tim, I don't think "too much GH" really is this guy's problem...
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: TrueGrit on March 13, 2011, 04:53:17 PM
still getting slated
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: GroinkTropin on March 13, 2011, 09:18:42 PM
(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2008/fibo_2008/tag_1/P4106561.JPG)

oh no he di'int!

LLOOOOOOLLL NO FUCKING WAY

NEW AVATAR FOUND

GRACIAS
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: GroinkTropin on March 13, 2011, 09:23:57 PM
would someone blow this up for me? maybe do something funny with it too. just too much.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Master Blaster on March 13, 2011, 09:34:00 PM
would someone blow this up for me? maybe do something funny with it too. just too much.

I think you're pretty funny already...
  PS hows your little goal going?  :)
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: dyslexic on March 13, 2011, 10:03:56 PM
He sure is getting alot of attention. It's almost af is his parents are celebrities and he got a "break" that nobody else would have..
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: GroinkTropin on March 13, 2011, 11:05:13 PM
I think you're pretty funny already...
  PS hows your little goal going?  :)

I did cardio with a really cute girl a few times. To be honest, I haven't trained the last 2 weeks or so. Lots of things going on, when I get into the swing of things, it will be great, but right now school girl are pretty much consuming all my damn time. And not having a car is killing me, i lose 3 hours a day on a shitty overcrowded train. Would love to buy a streetbike or small car. I have some money now, I might buy something, if I see a good deal..

But thanks for asking. I haven't forgotten about my getbig peoples, trust me when I am back training and have legit progress to report back, I will not forget about my thread and all of that. I think at this point I need solid transportation, I just can not make it work losing 3 hours a day, and being stressed etc. It's fcking tough, and I have tangible things I can gain in school, which makes it important, working out will provide me with nothing. So, it becomes less important...Fuck.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Firemuscle on March 13, 2011, 11:31:17 PM
 I swear. If I shaved my body hair and got a good pump going and posed in a thong I WOULD LOOK JUST AS GOOD AS THIS GUY. And I just eat shit food all day, train when I feel like it.
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: Meso_z on March 13, 2011, 11:37:50 PM
(http://www.bigdanhill.com/content/images/essen.JPG)

Go on, eat them, you look like shit anyway.  :D
;D ;D
Title: Re: This guy is an IFBB pro????
Post by: gh15 on March 14, 2011, 01:20:37 AM
testosterona
trenbolona
equipona
masterona
gh
insulin


with out it you WILL NOT get preofeisonal card,, EVER! everyoe can get profesional card if do 2 things,,

1. get lean enough and down to 6% by abuse of trenbolona,,and decent levels of testosterona,,equipona,,masterona,,gh

2. blow up in secodn phase with the use of and abuse of trenbolona,, testosterona ,,equipona,,masterona,,gh and insulina in the higher levels as in no more your 5 iu but jump to 15....at the least good dose of 8 iu EVERY DAY on regular basis,,no that not mean 6.5 iu  it mean 8-10 iu MINIMUM

thats how you do it,,every one can ,,not every one wil be sucesful professional ,,look at putnam he will never place well in big show,,no back,,look in canadian frank macgrat will never do nothing in bodybuild in upper competition no torse... etc etc but everyone can be profesional if lucky and have time and have LEGIT PRODUCT aka you can not take off times,,you push it all the time months over months no stop to the max until you are top profesional and from then it is a lot to do with luck and the genetic shape and respond to the legit hormones you took


gh15 approved

that is it that is how you do it friends,,